Schwarzesmarken / Total Eclipse / Muv Luv

>>143575897
What was OPs pic?

>>143575897
>File deleted

What's happening?

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>>143576157
Somebody chose the wrong file.

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>>143575897
>file deleted
Top kek.

>file deleted

Well, that happened.

Damn kikes

Oy vey, it's anodah BETA!

Does this confirm Koukhi just makes VNs to make shekels.

>>143576500
If you had gotten more repeating digits, it might have.

>>143576282
What happened to Israel anyways in Muv Luv?

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>>143577591

They're coordinating with the Arabs which is strange but possible considering Egypt is the key factor for operating in Egyptian territory (Suez/Sinai) and they recognized each other before 1980 iirc.

Also Lise is the best and cutest imouto and I want to make her happy and teach her how to love herself again.

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>>143577703

>>143577591
They got outjewed by the BETA.

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>>143577591
Got chomped, holding the Suez Line along with the remnant Arab bloc, but they're not part of it. Read somewhere that they operate out of Crete or Cyprus or something.

Also, yes the Lavi TSF did happen. And yes, they went full Jew and the J-10 TSF bears an extreme resemblance to the Lavi. Still though, much nicer in that part of the world overall than our world. Guess the BETA threat helps with that.

>>143578700
>plamo never

shit thread.
lol

>>143578762
Mig-25 you mean? That was a TSF, yes. Art's around there somewhere.

>>143578802
How nice of you to get it out of the way early.

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What is this dog's breed?

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>>143579260

Pomeranian, obviously.

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>>143579260
Something small, for sure.

>>143579840
I want Lise to do this to me.

>>143579977
What are you, 150cm tall?

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>>143579840
>>143579977

I want Lise to do this to me.

>>143580083
I can kneel for her.

Impregnating Farka and not taking the responsibility!

>>143580319
How mean!

>>143580135
I bet she wanted Theo to do this to her.

>>143580490

To be fair, he did, he just did it for the wrong reasons.

>>143580598
At least he left her with a happy memory a day before she died.

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>>143580135
Bless you wandering skeletheo

>>143580319
wew lad

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I Just picked these up for $20.

feelin' a little Wolfish.

>>143580135

Bless you wandering Skeletheo

>>143581059

We're sure this is Farka, right? With all the confusion between Werewolves caused by the anime, is anyone sure?

>>143582069
All Werewolves are Farkas now. Until the real Farka gets shown.

>>143582069
I think her name got shown recently, it's not Farka. We still don't know who the actual Farka is.

>>143582415
It's Farka until proven otherwise.

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unrtTjTujgM

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Posting best girls!

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>>143584086
Posting

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>>143584086
For old times sake.

>>143584119
He said girls, not boys.

Irisdina deserves a good punch to the face

>>143582531
Fair enough.

One of the polls said Farka too, so it's not like she doesn't exist.

Irisdina deserves a good kiss to the cheek

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So considering Gretel is responsible for two of three of Theo's bad ends in the VN, for sake of berevity, assume she shot and killed Theo.

When Lise comes to wreck their shit later, what nightmarish horrors would she inflict on Gretel? Would she go for an incredibly painful, quick death? Or would she opt for an extremely slow one?

>>143585779
One of the doodles of the livestream foreshadowed that

>>143585779
>When Lise comes to wreck their shit later, what nightmarish horrors would she inflict on Gretel?

Into the funhouse she goes. There are some who are into their girls looking like boys.

>>143585577
Why?

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Would she bust Martin out of prison only to rape and kill him in front of her, making her watch every second of it?

Or would she first slowly strip the flesh from her bones, making sure to peel away right where the nerve connections are strongest?

>>143585941
Oh? I didn't see the whole stream. Anyone got a picture of the doodles?

>>143586264
>Would she bust Martin out of prison only to rape and kill him in front of her, making her watch every second of it?
>Or would she first slowly strip the flesh from her bones, making sure to peel away right where the nerve connections are strongest?
Who? Lise? Barely anybody knows Martin is even alive.

>Everytime you start up SM, you get to hear Claudia lose her sanity, watch everyone die, pray for God to save them, and be baited with incoming TSFs only for it to be the 666th who ignore them, have her scream at them for leaving them to die, and then finally accepting her fate with a chomp, and then what few words she can muster after

It hurts.

;_;

If you consider how many curses and dying wishes the crew racked up from the grunts in the course of their squadron history, maybe it's no surprise how tragic SM is.

>>143586264
Don't cut yourself with that edge

Basically the image was Lise stabbing Gretel in the back and throwing her from a high place or something

>>143586261
>protestant
>blonde
>constant smug "I'm so much better than you" facial expression

>>143586602
>KuK detected

Go stuff a white sausage up the you know where.

Nomenklatura whores are disgusting.

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>>143586602
She's just a misguided person.

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

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>>143586753
I want to non-lethally stab her teenage self so she could bleed and cry in pain then spend time in infirmary.

Axmann did nothing wrong.

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>>143584200
Hey now, Annette can be very cute!

You're probably the kind of jerk who says Chobit isn't a girl either. ;_;

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Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart

>>143587103
I want to throw this cat some food.

>>143587149
wow there. you may be suffering from a severe case of shit taste. you better go see a doctor.

>>143587149
I want to beat her, Irisdina and Beatrix.
Then have the smelliest, ugliest, unhealthiest hobos rape them.

>>143587219
it's autism at this point, lad

>>143587103
'tis just banter lad. I've got no problem with any SM girl, except maybe Suzy.

Which Werewolf would you marry and heal?

>>143575897
Fuck off, you worthless generalspamming trash. SM was six months ago, time to move on with your pathetic lives.
>>>/m/
>>>/jp/
>>>/vg/
>>>/out/
>>>/anywherebuthere/

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>>143587338
The most broken one with no one to fall on.

>>143580135
>brown nipples
I knew Theo wasn't White in my heart all along.

>>143587219
Axman pls go
>>143587370
thanks doc

>>143587370
thanks doc

>you will never hang out with Jurgen or Walther

How would Lise react if she woke up one morning and forgot where she put her ribbons?

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>>143588348
She'd find out if you hid them, and then forcibly suck you dry until you told her where.

Katia is for

Muv Luv with idols singing in the background when?

>>143590486
2Macross4me

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>>143590420
Slavic enrichment.

>>143590550
That's the point. Communicate with the Baters by using songs. The G Elements are just like Fold Crystals anyway.

>>143590420
bullying

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I want to cum inside Irisdina's ass.

>>143591267
Everyone already did.
>daughters of whores not even once

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>dat ribbon tho

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>>143591718
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>143580135
Episode?

>>143591800
She's a terrible person who should be eaten alive by baters. That's the only thing she deserves.

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>>143591921
Just one fact, anon. You can do it.

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>>143587338
This one of course, though they could all use a good round of healing.

>>143585581
Odds are we'll finally get an officially certified farka in the second VN.

>>143584029
Ich /mfs/ hier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UsSsxL83A

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>>143592543

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>>143592491
What a cutie.

>>143591921
Gotta have to try harder than that.

>>143592543
>>143592640

Mayor Tom sounds better
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0J-Ce7cOE

>>143593973
What an ugly hooker.

>>143593973
What a cute looker.

I'll bet she can wrap around you tighter than a chinese fingertrap.

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>tfw no Yugoslavia Front VN

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>>143593973
Happy end when

>>143595127
Haven't you heard that Schwarzesmarken is a tragedy?

>>143595127
Black marks - Schwarzesmarken. People who can't be saved.

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>>143594628
>you will never chill in your underground mountain base after a long day of roasting baters

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I want to princess-carry Vivi to the soft bed and cuddle with her

>>143586479
Goodgrief.

>>143586479
Pics or it didn't happen.

>>143596530
YATTA!

>>143596530
Why wasn't she protected?

>>143597820
Because Katia forgot the basics of CQC

>>143597929
how can she hope to save Germany if she can't save even 1 one person?

>>143586479
>Basically the image was Lise stabbing Gretel in the back and throwing her from a high place or something

Seriously?

>>143597929
Who needs that when you got a sniper rifle from a hundred feet away.

I want to find some examples of Inghild writing, imitate her handwriting, write a fake "if you read this, I am dead" letter saying that Anette is a good friend and present it to Anette to make her feel slightly better.
Or accidentally drive her further into depression and to suicide.

>>143598347
That's like 33m. That's hardly a good range for a rifle.

>>143598347
She can't shoot straight either.

>>143598617
That's roughly the distance you're fighting The Boss in MGS3 if you wanna stamina kill her.

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>>143598217
She probably would man. Followed by a quick stop by Stasi HQ for a massacre and a suicide.

>>143598627
Can Katia even do anything combat-wise other than being useless?

>>143598817
>Lise going Columbine on Axmann and his men
I like the idea.

>>143598817
Is she wearing a tanktop here?

>>143598832
Hold a AK47 with her eyes closed and hope it doesn't kill someone she knows.
True story

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>>143598906

>>143598933
Mein gott. Now we just need Beato in one and my life is set.

How long are you anime only watchers going to jerk off to SM?

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I want to bully Lise by tickling her knee

Would you rape Suzy?

>>143599241
How long are you going to metapost until you discuss what you want to?

>>143599066
https://u.pomf.is/ifruvp.mp4
She wears it to bed apparently. Beatrix probably does the same, it'll be nice if she gets some more screen time in the next VN.

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>>143599241
I've been jerking off to SM since 2013.

>>143599566
>10 minutes
Thanks for the fap material, kamerad.

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>>143587338
>>143592491
>>143592887

Well... I mean...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit?usp=drive_web

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>>143599291
http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/wac/index.htm?process=2&escurl=../character04_esc.html

Bully softly.

>>143599609
Hows that tulpa coming along

>>143599940
I'm the 2ch ML archaeologist, not the tulpamancer.

>>143600021
Damn, I miss him.

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>>143599935

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Who's going to win?

>>143600198
Marimo or Mitsuki

>>143600198
Marimo or German Akane.

>>143600198
mitsuki anett and marimo will get art.

>>143599935
why I am torturing myself by reading through this

>>143600987
I assume you have nothing else to do.

How do you make Anette feel happy?

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>>143601065
Let love bloom.

Damn the VN ost is amazing.

>>143601704
Anime uses the same ost right?

>>143602087
Anime OST is aids

http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=arYp3at5WZo&video_start=0&audio=ETfiUYij5UE&audio_start=20

>>143602087

Iirc uses part of the vn ost but not nearly all of it.

>>143602087
From the first VN I'm playing now I feel like a lot of those weren't in the anime.

At least I don't remember this one from the anime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrLnvgUh5DM&list=PL0lYvBiGqoHZwWfVX17XhHIdoFOqRlPA_&index=8

>>143602159
You should have put biggie at 28 seconds, he talks about shooting dread in the head just as Jurgen execution comes on.

>>143602087
The anime really overuses some tracks like "BETA" while neglecting many other tracks.

Also, the anime stasi theme sounds kind of dumb.

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How disappointment will you be when it turns out Lise rote in VN will be another rebel route?

>>143602272
I can remember that being used at least twice. When they nearly got bombarded during Neptune and when Walther and Sylwia ambushed Beatrix. I think the soundtracks released so far have only two songs which weren't in the anime at all. First track in vol 3 and sixth track in vol 4.

>>143602881
A little if just for the lack of entertainment value a full on Stasi route could bring.

>>143602881
Beatrix route or I riot

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>>143604379
>In other news, a lone man of around 5 foot 8 in height and 130 pounds in weight was seen throwing his own feces at pedestrians, screaming "werewolves route when? fucking cookies".

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>>143604513

Thank you, wandering Skelletheo

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>>143604513
Fucking kek

>>143604596

>Skelletheo
>misspelling the magic sentence

Thank you wandering Skeletheo

>>143597988
That's a good question.

She doesn't.

Then again, save doesn't necessarily mean live. ML is probably the greatest fictional reminder that the two concepts are related, but not the same.

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>>143598580
You're a pretty good, if odd friend.

>>143598906
Yes. Everyone wears their tanktops or shirts to bed. The nighttime clothing picture was a lie.

>>143600198
Marimo and Anette probably. Though Lilia might make a strong showing.

>>143602558
It's funny, not even once did they use the Griefer track longer than the first part of the melody, when it actually gets really good. In the VN, it really helps reinforce the opening segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qqpHcbEGFY

>>143602881
Well, not so disappointed, so long as we get a sekrit Beato route. If not, then yeah I mad.

>>143604513
Good man, Skeletheo.

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>>143601065
Introduce her to her opposite number.

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>>143602881
>>143604379
>>143604513
How would /a/ react if they leaked some CGs of Beatrix motorboating Theo or cuddling with him? Would it be more of a shitshow then confirmation of a BiS or SM:Extra VN?

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>>143606803
>more of a shitshow
Oh yeah. But personally I'd be more excited for that SM:Extra VN.

I require more Stasimouto.

>>143599935
>You close your eyes for a minute, and visualize Justin Trudeau. Unlike him, however, you're actually fairly intelligent.
Savage

>>143607517
If you don't fight the BETA, you win.

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>>143607600
>tfw canuck and have 0 cares about all of 4chan bashing my leader

As it was once said, "a nation can survive any amount of fools leading it, even the ambitious. It won't survive treason from within."

I'm confident will be back up after a few years of downtime.

>>143607600
That's unironically true though. You get to be Jody while everyone else is fighting.

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>>143607716
Canada is the eternal dagger poised at the heart of the last hope of the world, of the free people.

Not even sure annexation can save it at this point.

>>143608059
>Canada is the eternal dagger poised at the heart of the last hope of the world, of the free people.
What do you mean?

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>>143608122
Basically, in all the ML works, traditional Canadian anti-Americanism is more prolific than ever, and considering how strong and no-apologies ML America is, Canada spends most of it's time plotting how to "defend" against America than actually fighting Baters. They literally try their best to get an EU deployment on their soil to desperately not fall into the American orbit.

And then there's the whole clusterfuck in TDA.

>>143608676
Oh, I thought you were referring to RL Canada.

In Mubrub canucks defense, the west got turned into salt and the east got fucked by PLQ

>>143608718
I think he also means RL Canada too.

BUILD ANOTHER WALL

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>>143609158
Please don't meme on me.

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These shadows, I wonder who stalks our Lt in the shadows?

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Yui's a stone cold bitch. That or I'm guessing the word she used is cognate with bastard. I thought hafu was derived from English "half" though?

Who the fuck is Marco?

He better stay away from my waifu he knows what's good for him.

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>>143610309
The beloved of our poor big booby saint.

;_;

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Okay, frankly, I'm with Yuuya on this one. No wonder he wants to punch her lights out. She's crossed a fucking line.

>>143610420
>talking about dead moms like that
Low fucking blow.

>>143610214
I'll make her hot by impregnating her

>>143610356
Why is Pham blushing though?

>>143610827
HAHA, joke's on her though!

For reference, she's calling Yuuya the shame of the Japanese people. But yeah, she's basically calling Mira the equivalent of a coal burner.

>>143610063
The bridge bunnies.

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>>143611039
She's not blushing. She makes that grimace when she's angry, sad, or about to cry.

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Hmmm, apparently Stella already knew Yuuya was an elite at Area 51 no less, she dropped some troof bombs when Tarisa was questioning about his lack of skills in the Fubuki.

kek, when she heard he was an elite, she tried to say being an elite in America is like being the king of the mountain among housecats. Basically, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

Where does she know all this stuff from?

>>143612040
I guess whoever her source is forgot to mention he was an elite in anti-TSF combat.

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Yuuya really, really hates his father.

He still thinks about mom a lot.

;_;

>>143612147
In the second sentence, I think she is referring to Tarisa. Yeah, Tarisa's underestimates him. It's Stella who's got faith in him.

Well, then again, she seems more wary of him based on what we've seen. Maybe this is why, probably a lot of Yuuya's data is classified.

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>>143606803
It would be fantastic. Finally my collection of PUNISHED THEO getting comforted would be complete. Especially if Beatrix had a truly loving and caring expression on her face.

I would be very, very happy.

>>143602558
The music direction in the anime is so bad. They have so many songs from the VN, but only use a fraction of them.

Where's Lise or Pham's themes? As much focus as Katia gets, you'd think you'd hear her theme.

Then again, that could be because the anime focuses more on action, drama, and Katia and less on downtime (they cut out the Berlin trip)!

>>143610309
You can rest easy. He's dead too.

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Settling down with Irisdina!

>>143613970
its just a matter of time before she cucks you.

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>>143614266
Why are you so obsessed with cuckoldry? It's a bit unhealthy, dude.

>>143614388
Scans where?

>>143614388
i'm just looking out for you since she is a massive slut. like mother like daughter.

>>143614585
So then Jurgen is a drunk in an insane asylum? Your logic doesn't add up, and seems to be taking cherrypicked parts of the story to shitpost on /a/ with.

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>>143614585
Only you think that. Irisdina is pure and would make a lovely and loyal wife.

So I just learned from Hiroki's twitter why he hasn't been updating BiS. His wife gave birth a while ago, so between being a new father and the VN, he's had to drop BiS temporarily.

>>143614666
He would become one if Beatrix would cuck him. But she didn't so he didn't become like his father.
Iris on the other hand spent a lot of time with her mother learning the arts of how to cuck someone.

>>143614827
>Iris on the other hand spent a lot of time with her mother learning the arts of how to cuck someone.
Like I said, cherrypicked parts. You're talking about a daughter trying to reconnect with her estranged mother as years of training to inflict harm upon others. And then you conclude your false premise with more cuckoldry.

Your obsession with cuckolds is really unhealthy. You do realize that there is nothing to suggest that Irisdina would betray someone in a relationship? She hasn't been in one so to say she inevitably will circles back to cherrypicking parts of the story.

>He would become one if Beatrix would cuck him
No, he really wouldn't. I don't know if you've cared to notice but Jurgen is a pretty smart, charismatic guy who knows how to socialize without resorting to weak inductive reasoning.

>>143615067
i guess you never truly loved someone. you underestimate how a betrayal from a loved one can break someone.

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>>143614827
Would Beatrix cuck Jurgen?

>>143615351
>i guess you never truly loved someone. you underestimate how a betrayal from a loved one can break someone.
I really like how you ignored everything about my post and instead focused on the last two sentences with something you can't prove.

You're the one who claimed that the children are the same as the parents, so even without Beatrix "cucking" him, he's supposed to be a drunk living in an institution.

Have you ever loved someone? It seems like you did and she probably turned into a coalburner and now you're taking it out on a fictional character who isn't in the same position as her parents, nor will she ever due to her beliefs.

tl;dr, it's literally impossible for Beatrix to "cuck" Jurgen. Your hypothetical is loaded and judging from your new line of discourse you haven't read the material or spoilers beyond "lol cuckoldry".

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>>143615600
>it's literally impossible for Beatrix to "cuck" Jurgen.

Oh? Let's put that theory to the test.

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>>143615790
>he went for one line and ignored everything else again
Wew. So you really are just here to post your inane drivel, huh? Not sure what I was expecting from a dumb cuckposter.

Have fun wallowing in your own shit or whatever it is you do before your tendies dinner and bedtime.

>>143615920
I'd a different guy, and that was more of a joke.

>>143615600
>You're the one who claimed that the children are the same as the parents, so even without Beatrix "cucking" him, he's supposed to be a drunk living in an institution.

No. Beatrix didn't cuck him so he didn't have the same traumatic experience as his father. So he wouldn't become an alcoholic because he wasn't cucked. But IF he was cucked be would probably turn out as his father.

>It seems like you did and she probably turned into a coalburner

there are no niggers where i live so that's impossible

>it's literally impossible for Beatrix to "cuck" Jurgen.

i never said beatrix would cuck jurgen i just said IF she cucked Jürgen

>>143615790
that is not me

>>143616073
>No. Beatrix didn't cuck him so he didn't have the same traumatic experience as his father.
That's a fair point, however you must also reciprocate that argument for the other child. Irisdina has never been in a marriage before and only just started to talk to her mother after her brother went balls deep into Beatrix before shit hit the fan. Then she becomes a Christian, SM ensues, you hopefully know the rest.
>i never said beatrix would cuck jurgen i just said IF she cucked Jürgen
It's still a loaded if. To be honest, it's almost not even worth thinking about because it's so incredibly unlikely to happen it just becomes fanfiction to bother envisioning.

>>143616330
>Irisdina has never been in a marriage before

>>143613970
she would be if you settled down with her.
which would lead to her being dissatisfied wife just like her mother. And then she would cuck you.

>>143616330
>To be honest, it's almost not even worth thinking about because it's so incredibly unlikely to happen it just becomes fanfiction to bother envisioning.

Why are you so certain that this is an impossibility?

>>143616607
because one of aspects of Beatrix is loyalty which is the opposite of irisdina and her mother.

>>143616606
Wew lad, it's just delusions of grandeur. Hardly admissible as evidence for your cuckoldry obsession.

>>143616607
I'm only certain because there's absolutely nothing to suggest Beatrix would sleep around with other men.

I mean, she doesn't move on years after he's killed and fosters hatred and grudges to those involved with barely any time or mementos to grieve with. That should really tell you all you need to know.

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>>143616647

>>143616738
Animeonlies literally need not apply to any discussion about characters in these threads.

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>>143616738
just kill yourself.
>>143616766
this

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>>143607126

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>>143616606
>which would lead to her being dissatisfied wife just like her mother. And then she would cuck you.
if you ignored everything about her character in the ln and vn maybe

>>143616943
she looks pretty dissatisfied in your pic.

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>>143617022
because theo was being a little shit

>>143617094
which would lead to her cucking him if they ever married.

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>>143617141
that guy is right, you are obsessed with cuckolds

do you even understand how interactions between a angsty teenager and his CO with the only relationship to speak of being theo hating her for being stasi would play out?

>>143617234
She looks ready to do some cucking in that picture.

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>>143617369
She looks ready to do some cucking in this picture.

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>>143617369
>>143617437
dumb cuckposters

>cuckposting
Kill yourselves.

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>>143617437
after she finished cucking someone.

>>143617546
>non-canon porn game
>"""""""""""cucking""""""""""""
Can you go back to whatever containment board your crawled out of? I wish we were bombed with 350 posts of Frodo's or TSF's over this shit.

>>143617546
>>143617489
Cumming inside Iris!

这黑标TV虽然蠢但起码不像te那样崩出翔了。动画真的把这个作品搞砸了，很多细节性的东西根本没有交代。

>>143617737

是

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Speaking generally, evidence suggests that information Iris voluntarily divulged to Axmann lead directly to Jürgen's execution. This is why Beatrix hates Iris so much.

So between that and being raised by Mercedes, I wouldn't exactly trust Iris with anything I couldn't afford to lose.

>>143614806
Wait, Hiroki is married and just dropped a kid?

Well, believable I guess. Do I dare ask if Koukhi is married?

>>143618886
It wouldn't have happened if Jurgen spent more time with her.

>>143619211
its easy to blame others.

>>143619251
The blame is on Beatrix for attempting to steal Jurgen away from her. Ironically, Iris would do the same thing to Lise ten years later.

>>143615546
Literally impossible. Her sole reason for living is Jurgen.

>>143617022
As the person who took that, she's mad/sad because Theo didn't protect what needed protecting. That's more of a pained expression, you can see how her eyes are watering and it's like she wants to cry.

It ess a quick thing, since she regained her composure. But it shows nonetheless.

>>143619349
you are again blaming others. as i said the easiest thing to do is to blame others for your own missteps.

>>143619211
>>143619349

I have pretty lax standards of behavior but betraying family members is a little bit beyond the pale.

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Making Irisdina a mother.

>>143620603
What the hell is wrong with her anatomy?

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>>143607517

I'm happy you read that far, by the way.

>>143622003

"Commander, I swear I'm straight!"
"That's just a phase you're going through."

>>143622089
Beatrix giving the predatory rape face would have really made so much more sense in that picture.

>>143622015
That condom has a hole in it.

Alright, let's settle this:

Lise vs Katia
Pham vs Inghilde
Annete vs Kirke
Gretel vs Suzy
Beatrix vs Iris

Theo vs Jurgen

>>143622418
Lise
Pham
Kirke
Gretel
Beatrix

Jürgen

>>143622418
First on everything except Jurg.

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>>143622418
Lise
Inghilde
Kirke
Gretel
Beatrix
Jurgen

>>143622611
That's the first image where Katia has been kind of sexy.

Too bad she's still outshined by every other female there

>>143622285

I didn't notice that, but it's fitting.

>>143622418

L
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I feel like all the hate Suzy gets is ridiculous. She was living in a shithole oppressed by some of the most horrible people imaginable. Of course she's not going to have a good opinion of the powers that be. She did what was necessary. Even then though, I felt like she still showed remorse for her actions, especially in Katia's speech, showing that she isn't anywhere near as heartless as some people make her out to be.

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>>143622285

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>>143623287
>anime white-washing the "good guys" yet again
>accurate characterization

>>143623441
Don't play dumb. Its right there.

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Holy shit, is Heim as spineless in the LN as he is in the anime?

>>143623795
He must be. He became PM Heim and its probably his fault that everything went to shit afterwards. And it makes sense too. A 15 year old and a spineless tool don't make for a good government, no matter what their intentions, do they?

>>143623795
It seems from the prequel that he mostly rode on Alfred's coattails. He probably escaped the purges because he was a coward/wasn't deemed a threat.

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>>143622089
>>143622235
But the whole point is that Iris is really not that different from Beatrix. Which is pretty much true.

>>143622418
>Pham vs Inghild

No!

NO!!

I WILL NEVER!

Please ;_;

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>>143623934
Inghilde says do it you pussy

>>143623934
Choices aren't meant to be easy. You'll probably have to decide who lives and who dies in Martyrs, and I guarantee that if Pham survives, it'll come at the cost of someone else.

How many hits to the face would it take to make Whoreisdina even slightly attractive?

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>>143624213
I'd hit her in the face with my lips!

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>>143624099
Pham was always ready to die in the name of love and the happier day.

For her, I must too.

I will live as my dearest lived, as she lives.

For love.

I want to cum on Gretel's glasses while she sleeps

>>143624256
Why is she angry?

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>>143624316
PMS

Why are blondes such disgusting abominations?

>>143624525
Why do you have such shit taste?

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>>143624525

>>143624571
Stare at him Lise. Stare till he's sorry.

Gretel is for very violent sex after which she'd end up crying and full of bruises

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>>143624571
>best looking girl in the VN: Beatrix
>best looking girl in the anime: Lise

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>>143624767
That's bestiality, m∞.

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>>143624783
I can agree with that.

>>143624783
And both got their characterizations butchered.

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>>143624783
Anime Beatrix isn't very consistent. Some shots aren't flattering and make her look like a frog, while others make her look like sex incarnate. It probably comes down to how difficult she is to animate.

Anime Lise is consistently hot though and is the only character who looks sexier then her VN counterpart.

I want to put the bookmark in the book Gretel reads between wrong pages just to piss her off.

Would you team-up with Jurgen to softly bully teen Iris and Beato?

>>143623795

The only person with an ounce of courage in the Heim family is his wife's daughter

>>143625090
Sure, why not. If it manages to deepen their friendship to the point that they can't hate each other later, then it is in the interest of mankind to bully those qts.

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>>143625090
Softly bullying Irisdina until she gives into you would be great.

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>>143624854
You know the more I think about it, the more I realize the anime totally screwed up on Lise's character and storyline. Actually they screwed up a lot of characters in the anime because they cut out so much "fat" that they actually cut out a lot of the meat of the story and as such characterizations were changed, like everything about Beatrix or how Katia ended up being a lot more naive in the anime since unlike the light novels she just told Theo her backstory first chance she got. some changes were alright, like Gretel not being a racist jerkwas an improvement imo. Theo came off as nicer even from the outset, granted in the LN he calmed the fuck down after a while but he only had a few really jerkass moments in the anime.

But back to Lise, ok so they cut out a lot of her storyline and interactions with the cast. In the LN it wasn't subtle that she was a spy but in the anime she practically had a neon sign hanging around her neck shouting SPY! as a result she came off as a generic yandere and never really interacted with anyone else unless it was plot important (making it more obvious that she was a spy). Also unlike the LN, she was shown to clearly enjoy torturing the cast when they were detained. Also when they revealed her backstory in ep 9, thinking back on it and rewatching it, it didn't seem like she was forced into being a part of the Stasi, hell she didn't even mention her gang rape. actually it seemed like she tossed herself at Axeman in order to get Theo off the hook, and did everything else because why not. This drastically changes her character as it removes any semblance of sympathy she had in the LN. At first, I didn't understand all the hate she had from the Crunchyroll crowd, but thinking back on it I totally get it now. From the perspective of someone who had only seen the anime she had no redeeming qualities. I looked at her through the perspective of what I knew of her from the LN so I overlooked a lot of her actions in the anime.

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>>143625367
Also they made Theo look like a moron in ep6 and ep7, in the LN and VN they made it pretty clear that Theo was in love with Lise at the start of the story, and thinking that she was dead was one of the reasons why he was so salty, but i digress. In the anime they seemed to either intentionally or more likely omitted this because of time reasons. So when Theo bangs Lise in the anime it comes off as incredibly self centered and kinda dickish really. He clearly didnt have romantic feelings for her at that point so banging her to "control her" seems messed up and frankly out of character for him at that point. Also if he really was going to tell Iris that he loved her at the end of ep7 after getting in a relationship with Lise just makes him look like an idiot and an asshole, especially with the knowledge that whether Lise was a spy or not she clearly knew something was up between Iris, Theo and Katia and scorning Lise to hell and back by banging her and the very next day telling Iris that he loved her couldn't have possibly gone well, as Lise easily even as a non spy in a fit of Jealousy told the Stasi everything she knew.

So i guess in conclusion the anime done derped. It messed up the characters so much that they only were shallow imitations of their LN selves. Big problem was shoving 7 LNs into 12 episodes, seriously that was a dumb move, they should have done 12 episodes going up to the ending of the first VN and done a second season following the second VN. The anime wasn't terrible but it could have been much much better; however I will say it was a lot better than the Total Eclipse anime, but then again that could be my disdain for Total Eclipse in general (I hate that side story so much I personally don't consider it canon.)

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I want to treat Lise like a dog. And by that I mean I would headpat her, feed her and let her sleep in my bed.

Is it okay to bully Inghild?

>>143625367
>>143625393
Your grammar is terrible and you sound like an imbecile.

>>143625584

Never.

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>>143625439
>and let her sleep in my bed
I hope getting sleep wasn't actually part of your plan, because I doubt it will be any part of her's.

>>143625367
>>143625393
I thought anime Lise was fun and still don't think she deserved the amount of hate she got at the time because I can see what they were going for with her character, but they simply dropped the ball. Its best to do as the japs and chinamen do and remember; anime is anime and original is original.

>>143625439
>that Theo ball.

>>143626571

I never noticed that before

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>>143625439
Maybe you'd like a cat instead though? Or maybe a bunny to cuddle with in bed instead?

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>>143627602

I don't do bestiality.

>>143627602
Why not all? Nights can get pretty cold, extra-warming could be nice.

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Behold! The glorious face of a tsundere who realizes she messed up and her entire plan backfired!

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How is Brexit and the eventual other exits and collapse of the EU going to effect the Muv Luv verse? Granted, it is a completely separate reality, and the EU in the ML verse is more a military/political union, but still.

>>143629335
Is this translated?

>>143629335
The UK are tge dominant power of the EU so they should have no reason to leave it. Futhermore they need they're ex-continental fellow Europeans in order to defend their tiny island.

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I want to bully this thing

>>143630284

Bully it with your phallus and make it raise your child alone while you raise a real phambly with Pham. Deny any connection to her child and fake the blood tests so she can't even get child support.

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Well?

Is she right?

>>143630284
Can she even handle being pregnant?

>>143630833
>fucking the dog
I'm not G.G. Allin

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>>143629567
Where were you when all the Anti-American banter in Rain Dancers was posted a month or so back?

>>143629335
Unless continental Europe has been retaken, even if only partially by blowing out the Lyon Hive, there wouldn't be any Brexit, because Britain would be top dog and not Germany.

Smelly dumb moderate rebel scum

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>>143631150

thanks to Katia there is no hope of DE ever having the economic or political clout to dominate the EU, or even have any particular influence, really. DE would be the Greece of the EU in ML world.

>GEIF MONEY PLOX
>NO I CAN'T PAY YOU BACK
>GEIF MONIES PLOX
>LOL I REPORT U

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>>143631150
>Monica shitting on Americans

Sometimes, I don't even know why America bothers helping.

>>143619106
>Do I dare ask if Kouki is married?

He's still a bachelor, probably. Not that it would matter much in his case cause he must have been into threesomes if ML and TE were semi-autobiographically inspired.

Not like that last part could really be the case because those are only rumours created by fans. I have no idea what he really does to satisfy himself and I don't think the fanbase will ever know either.

Telling rape jokes to Lise and Sylwia!

>>143631582
So who's the older woman with him in LA, who's normally on the streams too?

Actually, who is the other young girl in the streams?

Why are teen Iris' braids so pullable?

>>143622015
To be honest I regret it. But then again I always regret reading fanfiction.

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>>143631456

given that Gretel has override capability on 1980's era TSFs it seems silly to me that any TSFs after 1985 could even think of rebelling without the Pentagon shutting them down and euthanizing the pilot.
I mean like, America remotely shut off all the color copiers in Iraq in 1990. You would think they'd use that capability on TSFs.

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>>143632580
Most TSFs are domestically manufactured in ML, or at most sent knock down kits from America. They wouldn't take TSFs that can be digitally hijacked that easy.

The only remote slaving that can be done is still locally, as TE showed, and that was only the UN base's security (i.e. the access code and correct node). They had to destroy or hijack the actual Test Flight TSFs, because they were inaccessible. Even in the 80s, tampering with those systems was relatively easy, as one of Werewolf's many tasks is to hunt defecting TSFs, (hence their better anti-human capability), indicating it happens relatively often.

Remote slaving is probably still not all that developed even by 2000s in ML, for one considering how the commies abused it, two, how easily the RLF abused it, and three, the issue that slaving involves not just merely receiving a signal, but also having the proper sending equipment and signals.

As for euthanizing, it wasn't just that. Technically, Gretel could kill any of the 666th, as they had poisons on standby to send into the bloodstream too.

You're overestimating the capability of remote access.

>>143633160

I am, probably, but between the xerox attacks in Iraq and the Snowden leaks in pretty confident the United States would sneak remote kill devices into any technology they exported. In fact, as an American I'd be disappointed if that wasn't the case. Three years later, it turns out Merkel is absolutely not to be trusted.

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>>143633552
There are limits. And in any really sensitive equipment like that, of course they strip the components down to the core to check for things like that. So the chances of sneaking a takeover device into a multimillion dollar piece of military hardware like that and having it stay hidden for years, that is highly improbable. They can't just be stuffed anywhere either on the plane/tank/etc, but in very precise locations on the electronics, which would easily be found.

And again, it's not so easy to get into things like computers to military systems in the first place. Even if a system is somehow compromised and trying to broadcast to it's new controller, the firewalls and beachheads that said systems are behind are not controlled from the same location.

A good example of the only way to really tamper with those systems is the Iranian nuclear program virus attacks. Yeah they caused and still extreme havoc in the computing systems and Siemens controllers of the program, but the way it got into the system in the first place was that someone from the outside had to bring it in. They couldn't hijack the controllers remotely. The people who market the highest grade secure components in the world don't have access to their own systems, they make them that secure. It's actually a selling point.

And then, as icing on the cake, even if it was possible, shutting down a nation's air force would overnight destroy all of America's military exports, since absolutely no one would trust them again. Trust is an important part of business.

National Guard TSFs when?

>>143633552
>in pretty confident the United States would sneak remote kill devices into any technology they exported.
Not sure if this is an equal situation, but they didn't for the Stingers they gave the mujahadeen, but then again the batteries for those would ensue they would only last for 1 conflict anyway.

>>143634267
Correct, the batteries weren't even fully powered/new ones anyways, and then on top, the CIA at least did a pretty good job of getting any back, either by buyback, bribery, or good ol killing and swiping.

The Muja weren't even given all that many anyways. Of more impactful use were things like Claymores and mines that we sent (which hilariously, one of SOFmag's war correspondents showed them how to use properly, since they were bungling them before).

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I found out what happens to Katia in the future!

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And apparently Axmann's second found a new sugar daddy

>>143613970
I thought she was depicted as an office cake?

Why so domestic suddenly?

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>>143575897
I want to protect that smile!

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>>143635240
Because she's with the man she loves.

Being an ice queen can only take you so far.

>>143635599
i don't think Iris loves Theo.

>>143635667
We'll never know.

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>>143635667
>he hasn't been watching the VN dumps and LN translations

New, you are sort of onto something. Does she love Theo AS Theo? Well, that's harder to say.

But not so much harder.