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Dragon Ball Super 49

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Cont: >>143326587

Why'd they fuck up Goku's SSJ2 hair in this episode but clearly get it right in the preview for the next one?
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>SS2
You mean yellower hair?
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SHIGGYDIGGYDOO
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>>143338384

There are clear differences.
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Future Trunks sees Mai in sexy vision
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why is everyone so fucking SHINY
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>>143338607
pedo Tranks? but it's a normal reaction since recently he saw er dead.
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>>143338628
because they're fucking retarded and make areas unnecessarily "brighter"
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>>143338829
Much better.
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>>143338328
Use the catalog retard >>143336178
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The philippines are at it again?
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When will best girl return?
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>>143338812
She's older than him
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>>I know, she said she was forty
>>143339333
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Kinda mad how they're not mentioning that Future trunks isn't actually from the future, but from an alternate timeline, which is also the future.
They should really call him Alt-F4 trunks, with Alternate referring to a different timeline, F referring to future, and 4 referring to how many different time lines there are now mentioned, God dammit trunks.
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>>143338328
Because Toei is fucking incompetent.
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>>143338955
>look mom I posted it again!
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goku no piccolo
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>>143340590
He was always from an alt future. If he was from The future, he would have gotten everything back to "normal" back to The future style. With his father alive and goku still around.
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>trunks didn't even let boo wake up
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OK

SOMEBODY IN FRIEZA ARMY WISHED FOR GOKU TO BE ALIVE AGAIN AND TO BE BAD

BAD TO THE BONE DEHDEHDEH DEH DEH REH
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>>143340877
Kill yourself, newfag.
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>>143341194
smart guy, because he didn't stand a chance against buu
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>>143341275
no you
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>>143339210
we'll need to rely on monaka once again, it seems
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>>143341194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY
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>>143341275
die /v/ faggot
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>>143341616
no u
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Vegeta is always second best
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>God form actually returns in the manga
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>30 posts in
>no radditz fags yet
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>>143338328
because he didn't go ssj2
he just raised his powerlevel to trunks while being in ssj1
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>>143338328
Because who gives a fuck
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>>143342469
he did nothing wrong
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>>143342439
What the fuck? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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>>143342795
yes it does. He wants Hit to improve his skills and get too strong to be defeated, just like he did for every villain after freeza
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>>143339333
>She's older than him
By two or three years top. Seeing her as a child along with kid Trunks isn't that surprising. He looked like that because his own Mai just died.
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>>143343005
no she's 7 years older or something because she's around 40 and he's around 33
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>>143343207
>she's around 40 and he's around 33
Bullshit. They never said F.Mai's biological age (or F.Trunks, for that matter).

>no she's 7 years older
I don't think so. Two or Three years top.
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>>143343207
>>143343407
Wait, forget all that. You're not talking about her biological age, right? That's why you said she's 40. I should have known you're one of those retards making a big deal out of Mai's original age. Get over it already.
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>>143338812
but she is older than future trunks
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>>143342795
both the manga and the anime are inconsistent as fuck so yes like the old times
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>>143343503
>>143343407
she's as old as goku or maybe even older and goku is an old grandpa
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>>143343629
Get over it.
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>>143342742

honestly, how can you be so pathetic and talk about a character that lasted for 5 episodes 20 years ago?
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>>143343005
>only by two or three
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>>143343629
>goku is an old grandpa
Goku is in his early 40's tops.
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>>143343963
He is a grandpa though. explain that

checkmate
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>>143344014
He's a young grandpa then.
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>>143345594
Fuck off, retard.
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>>143343963
ages in dragonball are fucked up anyway.

Bulma - 46
Chi-Chi - 43
Future Bulma - 63
Future Trunks - 31
Gohan - 22
Goku - 43
Goten - 13
Krillin - 43
Piccolo - 26
Tien Shinhan - 47
Trunks - 14
Vegeta - 48
Yamcha - 47

and none of them look their age.
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>>143342795
Base > SS1 > SS2 > SS3 > Saiyan Beyond God > SBG+SS1 > SBG+SS2 >SBG+SS3 > SSG > SSB
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>>143345794
I don't think you know the proper usage of < and >
turn all you > into < and you're right
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>>143345855
I know, I just think this way looks more aesthetically pleasing.
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>>143345794
What the fuck is Saiyan Beyond God?
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>>143345766
Saiyans age really slowly.
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>>143345984
beyond king kai
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>>143346093
So Saiyan Saga?
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>>143342439
This basically confirms that SSG < SSB
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>>143342795
>>143343576
>>143345984
So many idiots
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>>143346089
yeah, I know that but does krillin look like 43 or tien and yamcha close to 50?
I know that bulma looks young, just like her mother and the combination of her genes and saiyan genes make trunks look so young. but that doesn't explain the other humans
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>>143346271
I blame the lack of detail.
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>>143346243
Wow...so this is the power....of retardation....woah....
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kuro goku will go ssj next episode
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Goku no piccolo
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this episode was QUALITY as fuck especially trunks, are there any screenshots?
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>>143343963
Goku, while nearing 40 years' old, is barely 30 because you need to subtract about 8 years between his 2 deaths.

Vegeta was already a teenager when Planet Vegeta was destroyed, Vegeta must've been at least 20 years older than Goku
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>>143347022
I think this one had potential
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>>143347058
Yeah I think Future Trunks is about as old (or slightly younger) as Goku in Super
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>>143347264
>mom is making me eat phallic pink things in front of dad
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I've been ignoring super
Is the anime a straight adaptation of the manga?
Who is subbing the anime?
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>>143342439
But isn't Base Goku basically SSJGod ?
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>>143341194
Saved him a lot of trouble
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>>143347478

No the anime and manga are pretty different. Goku didn't use Super Saiyan God in the anime. He went straight SSB, etc.
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>>143342439
He actually didn't do the Kaioken-blue thin, and Hit didn't have his dumb constant power-up where he could stop time for a full sec
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>>143345766
That's nothing, Bulma's parents are like, in their 70s by Z.
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>>143347478
The manga is an adaptation of the anime.
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>>143341194
>literally how it would have ended in the regular timeline if Vegeta didn't fuck shit up
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>>143347714
>>143347808
I'm surprised, I'll watch the anime then
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>>143341194
At least Goku stated that Trunks went SSJ2, so it makes sense that he could beat Dabura. At first I was kind of confused about how he could've beaten him.
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>>143347808
No it's not. Both anime and manga are adaptations of Toriyama"s script.
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>>143347803
Truly made for grade schoolers
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I just realized a really dumb, cliche as fuck potential reason for Black Goku.

He's only wearing one earring, what if there are like 'Opposite Portaro' earrings that instead of combining two people, it splits one person into good and evil.

Even Goku has SOME evil within him, and it being twisted into some nigga that goes around destroying evil races like the Saiyans and claiming it's Justice is literally what an evil side of Goku would be.
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>>143347495
No, he absorbed the God Ki but that doesn't mean his base form uses it all. It was basically he absorbed 6 months of Wis training for his base form, and can use the actual SSG form when he needs too while Veg can't.
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>>143338328
You guys, have you noticed the symbol in Goku Black's ring? It's the Time Breaker's Insignia!
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I unironically liked Toyotarou's artstyle. Looks pretty mediocre, but it's light, neat and really refreshing

>>143348112
Most probably that this "black goku" is doing the universe a greater good, since Trunks have been jumping through time and shit and the nigger only wanted to restore the balance of his timeline

Screencap this shit
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>>143346216
Namek Saga.
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>>143348416
>pretty mediocre
No it's doesn't dumbass
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>>143343869
This Mai is actually the same one from the future, but she is from the future after being revived, memory wiped and sent back in time to when Goku was a kid.
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>>143348590
Toyotarou plz
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>>143348397
...SON OF A BITCH, IT IS.
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>>143338328

There are shots in the episode where Goku doesn't have a mouth and you complain about hairy details?
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>>143338607
That ass is phat
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>>143348685
GOD DAMN IT ALL

THIS IS ALL THE WORK OF DEMON PRINCESS DEVIANTART FANGIRL!
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Are these two the most comfy characters in shonen history?
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>>143348721
I'd say, in her case, plump.
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>>143342535
>lightning all around him
>B-BUH HE DIDN'T GO SSJ2 GUIES RELY!
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>Future trunks just murdered Dabura and Babidi without dealing with their buu shit
Sasuga.
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>>143348780

YES
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>>143348783
I want Beerus to babysit the kids.
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>>143348833
It's Vegeta's fault, as always
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>>143348602
THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>143348833
That arc should've ended like that. Vegeta was a mistake after all, smhfam.
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>>143348780
>>143348883
I didnt play Xenoverse. Is this bitch the first girl since 18 (Vados isn't technically a villain) that isn't shit?

Also how strong is Demigra?
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Pixiv Mai tag? I want to see if there are any loli porn of her yet.
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>>143348810

All SSJ summon lightning.
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>>143348602
>>143349005
Sure, but why have Pilaf and Shu with her?
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>>143349038

Towa is the best girl desu famalam.
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>>143347478
just read manga
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>>143349079
Why not?
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>>143349052
All of this shots except the SSj3 one is non-canon garbage.

Still no footage of SSj with lightning
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>Kaio-Shin Sama explains time and time again that using the Dragon Balls should be prohibited because it disrupts the balance of time and space.
>Jaco explains that manipulating time is a crime, so does Whis.
>Whis once again explains that time manipulation is a crime and why.
>Bumla dosent fucking care.
>Goku Black is Goku, Goku was supposed to die, be reincarnated, and become a agent of justice.
>He isnt doing anything evil, he is just acting similar to how Beerus does.
>His job is to destroy anything that has been corrupted time wise.
>The green one is the one who appointed him because Bulma threw the whole fucking universe into chaos.

Goku Black is also a god, if you need proof, look how skinny he is, it is Goku but younger, reincarnated as a god.
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>>143349038
Towa is literally a deviantart fangirl. She makes a demon cell husbando that can go Demon Super Saiyan, is Dabura's sister and therefore a demon princess, kidnaps Bardock and makes him her personal attack dog, combines Cell and Lavos, and dresses like a slut, and somehow gets a "darkness" form that is even MORE revealing. >>143348883

Demigra is God tier, but much weaker than Beerus and terrified of Whis.
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>>143349129
Why Pilaf and not Raditz? Both have the same voice actor, so... He should've joined the trio in the kid stage.Little Big Bro moments with Kakarot.
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>>143349038
>built up his powerlevel for millions of years.
>Beaten by a Create your own character Mary Sue .
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>>143349294
>Demigra is God tier, but much weaker than Beerus and terrified of Whis.

Dropped

Shit arc
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>>143349378
Demigra was a shit addition, anyways. Didn't had any place to exist before and after Xenoverse 1.
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>>143349378
Beerus actually DID want to kill him, because Demigra tried to mind control him. It doesn't work because Beerus is a God, but such a thing, in his own worlds, is "blasphemy."

Trunks pleads with Beerus to let them handle it so the fight doesn't end up destroying all of time.

Beerus then beats the everloving shit out of Trunks and YOUR ORIGINAL CHARACTER to make sure you're up to the task.
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>>143349613
own words
jesus how long have i been awake
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>Future Trunks brutally murders Babidi and Dabura without ever letting Buu out of his prison

Is Trunks like the only non-retarded Saiyan with the strength to protect his planet? Because I'm pretty sure there were 10+ Saiyans on Earth when the present timeline Buu blew up the entire planet. Yet Future Trunk's planet was never blown up.
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>trunks actually got shit done in his time
alright, which episode does the current arc start at? I'm finally watching this
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>>143349613
>because Demigra tried to mind control him. It doesn't work because Beerus is a God
>Demigra
>mind control him

Oh no its him ,please fucking no
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>>143349733
47
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>>143349754
Nigga BLACK HAS THE SAME EARRING AS DEMIGRA.

It's even the same fucking color.

There's never been doubt.
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>>143349671
>Yet Future Trunk's planet was never blown up.

Whats there to blow up anymore :^)
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>>143348381
Then how is vegeta going SSB all the damn time?
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>>143349671
Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Goten.

That's 5 saiyans.

Trunks and Goten were two young too really do anything til they learned fusion, and even then, fusion made them cocky so they fucked it up.

Gohan got rekt buy Buu because of Vegeta being a prick.

Goku didn't want to fight Vegeta because that helped wake Buu up, but Vegeta was being a prick.

In short, Vegeta fucked everything up.

Goku and Gohan would have dealt with it like F.Trunks did probably, except maybe Goku needing to fight Dabura.
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>>143349877
>>143349912
>BLACK HAS THE SAME EARRING AS DEMIGRA.
>he actually does

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
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>>143349851
thank you
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>>143338328
Again Trunksfags, kind of stupid.

>Is Trunks like the only non-retarded Saiyan with the strength to protect his planet?
Well judging by the current state of it and I would say no.

>FSN
Shit taste too
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>>143348112
>Even Goku has SOME evil within him
You what mate?
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>People crying about Demigra potentially being in Super and being canon

But then that means the Supreme Loli of Time could be in too.
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>>143349877
>>143349912
>>143350079
What about the faggot kaio with the white hair?
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I haven't followed the story since dbgt, is there a quick summary/tldr to the story so far?
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>>143350108
Who do you think he BLACKED first?
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>>143350072
>>143348912
Yamcha is that you?
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I know they're skirting around the inevitable SSB Vegito fusion by revealing shit like Beerus+Whis and Arale+Towa, but dammit I'm ready.
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>>143350191
Everyone that was supposed to be killed by the androids
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>>143350084
Meant to reply to >>143349671
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>>143347420
Legendary SS Broly is probably stronger than Whis and Beerus.

I mean, think about it. Broly destroyed not only numerous planets and stars, but an entire galaxy, and they never went to say shit to him about it.
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>>143349982
"God Ki" is basically powering up but keeping your Ki inside rather than letting it spill out.

Vegeta trained to do that. Goku pretty much took a shortcut since Beerus said that Goku's body somehow remembers how to tap into the god ki after going SSG

So basically SSG is the power you get from 5 other saiyans pouring their power into you, which possibly means that SSG is just the power of 6 saiyans in one.

SSB is something you can obtain through training, and is possibly weaker than SSG but still stronger than the other SSJ stages, and since it can be tapped into on your own, is more convenient than needing a ritual.

Goku being able to go SSG in the manga just seems strange, but maybe they're explain how later.
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>>143350276
How is future trunks older then now trunks? Aren't they born around roughly the same time?
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this entire episode was great

i wondered for so many years if the buu saga also happened in trunks's timeline and now i finally got the answer i wanted

also it looks like everything is going according to my headcanon and it looks like future trunks will be the new member of team beerus for the next multiverse tournament maybe he could even reach SSJB

>>143350186
the summary is

GT is not canon , go watch the movies first and then pick up the super during the champa tournament
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>>143341194
>Buu is still lying dormant in his timeline

It will be cool if Black or someone wakes Buu up, and we get to see another battle. Especially if he can absorb one of the SSJGods, or Beerus.
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>>143350276
Well no dur,
A. Broly doesn't exist in canon
B. Beerus and Whis weren't made yet
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>>143350276
If Goku can beat Broly, if Goku, Gohan, and Goten can beat Broly, then he's no match for Whis and Beerus.
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>no SSJ3 Trunks
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The shit about Buu didn't make any sense.

Trunks is like 5 years old when Babadi and Dabura come to earth. It would have been under android control at that time, and Dabura could have easily defeated the Androids with his hands tied behind his back.
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>>143350276
broly is weak as fuck and he is also non canon shit
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>>143350406
>literally still no SSJ3 vegeta

I mean, what the fuck.
He skips straight from 2 to 4 in GT, and skips from 2 to God in Super. Someone really doesn't want him SSJ3 for some reason.
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>>143350414
Earth was a fuckin wasteland nigga, there weren't any people to fuel the resurrection.
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>>143338504
Well played!
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>>143350108
>loli of time has your heart and dick all to her
>then onee-san of time design shows up

My head canon is that she can change her form at will, so that way I don't have the dilemma of having to choose!
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>>143350414
It's dimensional punching, we don't have to explain it
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>>143350332
...because he's from THE FUCKING FUTURE
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>>143345766
Gohan is married with a kid before 22.

Welp.
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>>143349912
Yeah. Black could have destroyed the planet but choose to just take a year and hunt down both humans and that one saiyan.
Guess he enjoyed his task
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>>143350414
babidi only appeared because trunks became stronger

before that there wasn't enough energy to revive buu
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>>143349671
>Is Trunks like the only non-retarded Saiyan with the strength to protect his planet?
>Literally comes from a future (twice) where everyone is dead because he couldn't save his planet (twice)
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>>143350414
Everybody's dead, Dave. Who the fuck would they have gotten the energy from to revive Buu?
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>>143350517
>Japan chose a loli over big sister

go fucking figure
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Idiot he's from an alternate time link not the future future. A timeline that coincides with the original timeline.
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So now that Demigra is going to be in the show, is Toryiama could add our Donut Steele's as well?

Ghost Nappa, Degeta, and Taino better damn well make appearances in the Demigra arc.
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>>143345794
I've seen nothing of Super and I am so incredibly lost on what the fucking shit you just said.
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>>143347264
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>>143350694
>is Toryiama could add our Donut Steele's as well?

No, this arc is going to lead into showing how Trunks joined the time patrol. OC Donut Steel comes later.
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>>143350332
why is it so hard for anons to understand timelines

i'll explain it in the most simple way

trunks's time machine is actually a timeline machine

he doesn't go to the past, he creates a timeline that is around the time he wants to be
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>>143345794
You forgot one
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>>143350738
M-moar.
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>>143350652
It's a million times better
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Is SSJ2 Future Trunks really that powerful? I mean he did well against SSJ2 Goku during their sparring session while SSJ3 Gotenks lost to Base Copy Vegeta.
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>>143348810
Lightening just comes when they aren't keeping their ki in check. All forms do it.
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Didn't watch. Can somebody quickly tell me how Goku turned black? Let me guess: mind control?
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>>143350594
Because he wasn't strong enough not because he was dumb like vegeta
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>>143350870
>I mean he did well against SSJ2 Goku during their sparring session

Huh? Goku took a few steps backward while blocking everything just to size him up. Then he finished him off in two hits.
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>>143350870
you know goku is a good guy


he was probably using 1% of his power basically he just wanted to show trunks how cool ssj3 looks
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>>143350716
Only things that have happened in Super are Goku became a god while fighting Beerus, and then later realized how to combine god form with SSJ power, so it becomes stronger. So his current strongest form is Super Saiyan Blue.

However he still cannot beat Beerus, but Beerus is just another member of the cast at this point. Beerus and Whis are on record the strongest people in the universe. They come over for dinner and parties on occasion.

In order to keep making strong people, since they have directly stated that Beerus and Whis are the strongest in the universe, Dragonball started going into other universes recently. There was a tournament between universe 6 and universe 7. Universe 7 is where our heroes reside. Goku is outclassed lately by a lot of things, but he's having more fun than ever because of it. He's surrounded by countless strong people he can have fun fighting. He's made plenty of new rivals.

There are eight universes in all I think, but originally there were 18. King of all cosmos blew up most of them when he was having a bad day at one point.
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>>143350900
Turles survived the Tree of Might explosion and fled the galaxy. He went all over many other planets planting trees and eating their fruits, and now he is back for revenge.
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>>143350900

Black's identity will be revealed in Episode 54.
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>>143350463
Those transformations aren't linear, you stupid shit.
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>>143350969
Stop spoon feeding faggots
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>time travelling is a serious crime
>Beerus almost destroys the planet because of it
>None of the Kais including King Kai think to mention this ever
>Demigra goes around fucking up with time and Beerus is only slightly annoyed with them and expects Trunks to fight them instead
>Goku Black is fucking up time also, and Beerus probably won't even bother to fight him

I hate Super. All of it. There is not a damn redeeming quality.
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>>143338607
>mai gets wishedback to an adult
>future trunks cucks his younger slef
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>>143348397
What exactly does this mean? I haven't played xenoverse.
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>>143351059
As much as some wish for now XENOVERSE IS NOT FUCKING CANON
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>>143350969
Incoming sappy backstory? That's modern shounen. I wish for Black blowing up things because he's an asshole. That sound like Dragon Ball. What about like Broly? He got a sappy backstory but he was definitely an asshole.
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>>143350840
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>>143350284
Oh shit, is this the continuation of that Vegeta-is-the-main-character doujin?
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>>143351059
Jesus you're retarded
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>>143351059
meh it's not a very big crime because it is not the time trivel that beerus thinks it is


it's just timeline traveling. not really a big problem
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>>143350999
I know, I'm just complaining that in 2 post-Z separate series, he got skipped over for SSJ3.
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>>143350304
blue is stronger than Red. This was deliberately shown in the new chapter
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OKAY

SO despite Trunks becoming strong enough to shit on Dabura who was around the same level as Cell, this confirms he is still Buu saga tier in levels of strength.

Back then Gotenks and Gohan would have ruined him, as would most likely SS2 Goku and SS2 Vegeta.

So how will he be at all relevant battle wise now where the absolute minimum power level required to do anything is greater than SS3 (Angry Vegeta vs Beerus level)

I'm glad they explained that shit and Trunks didn't become a bitch, but when we're at the stage where Vegeta in base is stronger than SS3 Gotenks, SS2 ain't fucking shit now.
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>>143350738
>>143350840
>>143351145

Fuck off
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>>143350414
Androids were fuckton stronk but didn't have ki.
Only when they died and the population went up again (baby boom maybe) Babidi could wake up fatty
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>>143350951
King of All Cosmos seems like an alright guy though

He appoints the various Kais, gods of destruction, and other shit that rules over each universe.
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>>143351124
A lot of Xenoverse overlaps with Online, and Online is Toryiama canon
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>>143339251
female majin are the best.
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>>143351239
He'll be the perfect jobber for the next tourney. Hopefully Piccolo and Gohan can take a break from jobbing.
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Who is the best DB character and why is it Natz?
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Also appoints guards to watch over each god of destruction to make sure they're doing their job.

Though he doesn't seem to care too much.
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>>143351239
>So how will he be at all relevant battle

he is going to be trained just like goku and vegeta and he is going to reach ssj blue for the next multiverse tournament
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>>143351327
>jobbing.
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>>143351239
>So how will he be at all relevant battle wise now where the absolute minimum power level required to do anything is greater than SS3 (Angry Vegeta vs Beerus level)


They can give him a Super Saiyan God form in literally 2 seconds.
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>>143351328
What fusion is that supposed to be? Raditz and Nappa?

>inb4 Ditz Natz
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I wish Toei was replicating Toyotaro
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>>143345766
>42
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>>143351083
Dragon Ball Online's story was designed and written by AT. Towa and Mira were the main antagonists of that entire game. The Time Breakers were their own group of demons and other allies whose goal was to collect different warriors from different timelines to recruit them and put them to work in order to unseal the Demon Realm.

Demigra, however, is some OC guy the game devs thought up for Xenoverse 1, which is apparently the prequel in the sense that it happens before the villainous duo forms the Time Breakers. XV2 is about how to deal with Mira and Towa, who survived the attack at the end of the last game. All in all, we will see a lot of things like this from now on.
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>>143350754
That doesn't make any sense. Time Patrol Trunks looks WAY younger then Super Trunks.
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>>143351239
I think SSJ2 is the limit of power for a saiyan without a ritual. The SSJ3 was only achieved by Goku (MC) and Gotenks (fusion character) and it drained too much energy.
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>>143351337

Niggerstream at its finest
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>>143350782
He explains that in Z. Some anons are fucking retarded. All the time lines exist in the same universe yet are different instances of each other. The time capsule jumps time lines and doesn't move back and forth through one linear time line like people think. It's a pretty cool idea for time travel and eliminates plots holes that could be created.

My only problem with Black possibly being Goku is that died in Future Trunks' timeline. I doubt he was brought back with the Dragonballs, because if someone could find them and bring everyone back to life, why didn't Trunks and his Mom consider using them to bring back everyone killed by the androids?
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>>143350463
It's a nice powerup, but it's not sustainable because of whatever bullshit reasons they thought of. Something like it leaks a lot of ki or staying the form uses a ton of stamina
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>>143351428
>Whis and Vados are the only ones who aren't afraid of Zen'O
Are they really that important?
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>>143350582
Yeah, but he's not supposed to be 22, honestly.
No way you can have a few years old kid, a wife and a well paid job as an academic as 22.
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>trunks is so smart killing babadi and dabura before they revive buu

While yes, Vegeta is dead in his time to not fuck things up, remember that Trunks is the only remaining person alive with any sort of power. They had to collect a ton of energy to re-awaken Buu, their only target being Trunks. As long as he was able to overpower Dabura (which he did) it was a cakewalk from the beginning. I don't think they would have succeeded even if they did kill Trunks.
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>>143351683
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>>143351337
Why didn't he talk like a such a boss in the anime?
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>>143351666
They're personal guards sent by Zen-o to keep Beerus and Champa on the right path.They might be his children, who knows.

That one girl in Xenoverse might have been one of the Whis/Vados race from what I recall. From the way she looked at least, I didn't play the game so much.
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SSJ2FAG here! Where my bros at?
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>>143351716
Kek
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>>143351744
If Zen-o is god, Whis's race are basically angels
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>>143351239

>implying they'll make him relevant battle-wise

He'll be there just to sit back, explain things, and comment on the fights. Don't kid yourself expecting more.
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>>143351500
>replicating Toyotaro
In what way?
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>>143350951
SSB isn't his strongest form. SSB plus Kaioken x10 is his max power. In that fight he says he was saving it for if he fought Beerus and even Beerus was shocked that he had that much more power.
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I don't understand why the Buu saga happened at a different time in Trunks's timeline compared to the main one.

In the main timeline Buu saga happens when Trunks is 8 years old, yet for some reason happens when Trunks is in his 20's in the future timeline.

The Buu saga should have already happened when future Gohan and the androids where still around.
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>>143351877
But SSB Kaioken isn't canon.
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>>143345794
What the fuck. There are like 5 extra forms here.

SSGB > SSG > SS3 > SS2 > SS > Base.
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>>143342439
Jesus christ was that fight so much better in the manga
>hit didn't have time stop he actually jumped forward in time, which explains how goku's strategy could even fucking work
>goku would have actually won the fight easily
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>>143351884
>Babadi: Oh shit, these androids are going around killing everything. I don't want to be killed, so I'll come back later.
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>>143351884
Babidi needed Ki users, they were all dead
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>>143351906
The anime is canonier than the manga for Super.
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>>143351602
Natural dead can't be back with the DB.
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>>143351906
Are you saying the anime isn't canon and the Manga is?
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>>143351950
>>hit didn't have time stop he actually jumped forward in time, which explains how goku's strategy could even fucking work

That's not what happened, they directly said he was stopping time in the manga. If you think it wasn't represented correctly you can complain about that, but that doesn't mean you're interpretation overrides canon.

Also he didn't win easily, even when he went all out he couldn't seal a victory at all, and admitted that Hit was still holding back. He said they could have a true fight later on, where Hit can use his assassin techniques.
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>>143351870
Art direction of characters and setting.
Toyotaro stays true to Toriyama's style and looks authentic whereas the anime looks cheap in in-between frames. (It's better now)
The Kemetic (Ancient Egyptian) setting was also more esoteric and amusing than the food stands of the nameless planet of the u6 arc
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>>143351968
No it isn't. The manga is closer to Toriyama's vision for the series, ergo, it is canon.
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>>143351977
...wut? Even if that was the excuse, how do you explain them not trying to bring back any of the people killed by the Androids?
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>>143352038
He said the art looked better, not that it was more canon.
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>>143352016
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>>143339333
she's older than his fucking mother
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>>143348416
>Mediocre
Just because he doesn't draw simple line work and then add 50 filters per page doesn't make it mediocre.
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>>143351884
Babidi waited until there were enough people again to power up Boo.
The survivors must have fucked like rabbits
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>>143351968
It was advertised as such until the intervieew revealed that Tori actually reviews each chapter.
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>>143351568
How much energy does Super Saiyan God or Saiyan God drain in comparison to Super Saiyan 3?

I always figured Super Saiyan at this point is the base state, with Super Saiyan 2 adding fuel to the fire but you'll run out of fuel eventually. The consumption of Super Saiyan 3 is inconsistent to say the least.

Gotenks stayed at Super Saiyan 3 from the moment he powered up in and out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Goku in the manga stayed at Super Saiyan 3 during the whole Kid Buu fight.
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>>143352090
He doesn't have to say it was more "more canon" for it to be more canon. The fact the manga stays closer to Toriyama's ideas and that Toriyama often gives a lot of input on the manga is what makes it canon.
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>>143351081
fund it
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>>143352064
Well, Kamisama was ded and Bulma didn't know where is new Namek
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>>143352181

Goku says something about SSB being a lot calmer and easier to control or something than regular SS because of the God Ki, to explain why he could use Kaioken while always explaining why he's never done it before.
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>>143351337
>>143351387
>>143351428
>King of All Cosmos is a little kid easily entertained by Tournament fights
>Instantly likes Goku's carefree attitude
>Wants more cool fights in a bigger tournament
He's the DBS target audience. They are the ones who decide if the series lives or dies. And they are the ones who are keeping the series afloat.
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>>143352244
Ah. Makes sense.
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>>143352226
I want to see loli Mai x Future Trunks cycling Kid Trunks
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>>143349877
Universe 6 kaios wear green potaras. Demigra wont be part of the canon, sorry.
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>>143348112
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>>143352326
Black is from universe 6?
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>>143352311
As expected from the master Toriyama
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>>143352311
Meanwhile, Omni-king is allowing DBM to exist. I ain't even mad.
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>>143352383
No, the colors of the rings are nothing but clues at the moment
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any more fusions?
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>>143338607
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>>143352376
I liked the budokai game where devilman uses this attack to kill frieza and king cold and saves the world.
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>>143352181
Gotenks could only stay SSJ3 for five minutes after it activated, then it canceled their fusion. And Goku lost SSJ3 halfway through Kid Buu because of the energy strain on his body. That's when regular Buu came in and tanked him until they could Spirit Bomb.
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>>143352311
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>>143352465

The greatest love story ever told.
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>>143350517
Like a time-power version of Shinobu.
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is Black Goku future Goten?
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>>143352685
Goten isn't born in that timeline
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>>143351716

I don't get it.
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>>143352685
Fuck off
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>>143352685
stop with this shit right now
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Do you think mirai-Trunks have the Z-sword and would release a different Ro-Kaio-Shin later?
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>>143350782
Eeeeh, you need to explain how he always goes to the same past then.
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Is the manga canon?
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>>143352489
Gotenks powered up to Super Saiyan 3 to escape the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Then he fought Super Buu for several episodes, that's the longest 5 minutes I've ever heard of.

And the reason Goku lost to Kid Buu wasn't because of Super Saiyan 3, he fucked around to make sure Vegeta had his chance to fight too. The used of the dragon balls was to give Goku his stamina back.

https://youtu.be/hcT-Ned6N1g?t=2492

"You're at Super Saiyan 3, that's more than enough to destroy him"

"Maybe I could have when I was fresh, but I let the fight drag on so you could have a chance"
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>>143352788
>that's the longest 5 minutes I've ever heard of.
do you watched DBZ Frieza/Goku fight?
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>>143352788
>that's the longest 5 minutes I've ever heard of.
This is fucking Dragonball. How many episodes did it take for Namek to explode again?
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>>143352788
And there's another time Goku said he could have killed Buu. When he showed off Super Saiyan 3 for the kids, they asked him why he didn't just kill Buu with that power. Goku's reply was he wanted the boys (Gotens and Trunks) to have a shot at Majin Buu themselves, since you know, he was returning to the dead. It wasn't until the very end of the Buu Saga that Goku was actually revived.

So yeah, there were 2 opportunities Goku could have ended the entire Buu saga as Super Saiyan 3 and he chose not to.
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>>143352685

Yes. Goten was adopted by the Time Kais and raised as one of them. He hunts down time travel violators and destroys unlawfully created timelines.
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>>143352788

>that's the longest 5 minutes I've ever heard of.

I can't believe someone who watches Dragonball Fucking Z of all people cannot understand the length of 5 minutes.
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>>143352788
>Goku lost to Kid Buu wasn't because of Super Saiyan 3
It is, he would have lost anyway SS3 has bad ki drain.
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>>143352857
>>143352876
>>143352893
>animefags
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>>143352879
Don't forget Vegito could have kileld Super Buu with no effort at all.
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>>143352956
>use anime to gauge the amount of time a character was SSJ3
>point out that the anime was retarded when it came to time scales
>get called an animefag
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>>143353003

Don't forget Vegito could have killed Beerus with no effort at all.
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>>143352685
Yes, Chi Chi drove him insane.
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>>143351387
He's such a fucking bro.
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After the Androids killed off everyone in Future Trunks time, Chi Chi was alone and gave birth to Goten. Chi Chi was then murdered by 17 & 18 which left little baby Goten all alone.

Goten was then taken in by an evil person and taken away to live with them on a far away planet where he was trained and gained "Demon Kai". Goten's abductor did not know his name, and only knowing the name of his father, Goten was named "Goku" by his new adoptive parents.

Goten grew up with a completely different upbringing, giving him a personality different to normal Goten.

Then for reasons yet unknown, Goten returned to Earth.
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>>143353034
Yeah I'm not >>143352788
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>>143353056
Says in one of the BD segments for the movie, and in the anime that he realizes that even fusion wouldn't be enough for Beerus, at all.

SSG is far stronger than fusion.
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>>143353056
>tfw no SSB-kaioh-ken-Vegito
Why?
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>>143353056
Movie says he couldn't. Super says he couldn't.
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>>143353076
Chi Chi is like that soccer mom from DBZ in a Nutshell part 2.
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black is goku
he even knows instant transmission
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>>143352465

I must admit, that looked kinda creepy.
isn't FTrunks in his 30's now?
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Is the Beerus arc the only truly original arc?

Every other arc in super is an himage/rehash of an earlier DB arc.

Same goes for most of the enemies: two Frieza recolors, Cell lookalike, Buu/Baby rehash, Turles rehash
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>>143353296
No for all we know he did the pose to sense out Ki. It was never directly confirmed he was going to Instant Transmission
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>>143353315
Bait? Retarded? Or both?
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>>143351337
>>143351387
>the way the Omni-King talks
lel
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>>143353200

I don't buy it, man. Of course they say it wouldn't be enough, there wouldn't be a SSG or a fucking movie at all if they just fused and won.

I know there's no point in arguing with the creator etc etc stupid le headcanon maymays, but them handwaving Vegito to me is like Superman being on another planet or some shit while the earth is being invaded, a convenient plot device so a story can happen.
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Will Future Trunks get PTSD if Krillin introduces 18?
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>>143350951
So we're shortening Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan to Blue? Works for me.

Wait didn't Beerus get his power level stated at some point? Wouldn't SSB+Kaioken send him beyond or are we back to shit not mattering as long as Goku just keeps getting stronger?
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>>143353377
he tried to look for trunks
also he knows a dark version of the kamehameha and introduced himself as goku
its future goku turned evil
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There DBGT evil was said into balls of dragon because too many wishes. Therefore, evil dragon brought into reality. Same for now Goku in Super. Black comes out of too much Goku for the reason.
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>>143353454
See
>>143353145
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>>143353413
Shut the fuck up already.
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>>143349177
Maybe he is not reincarnated but has fusionned with a god (if his earring is the potara one )
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>>143353491
w-wot?

Never knew retardese was an actual language.
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>>143353491
Nice English, mate.
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>>143353518
no fuck off gotenfag
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>>143353491
you put your comment in google translator didn't you?
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>>143353425
If you want to make sense of Dragon Ball, you need to do 2 things: 1. Forget numerical values of power levels completely. They've never been a proper indicated of strength. 2. don't think of forms as multipliers but as buffs. Even when it is explicitly stated to multiple power, it doesn't work in practical terms.
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>>143352465
Did PIlaf and gang steal his sword?
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>>143353491
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Will he be the strongest character we'll ever see in DB? I doubt it. First I thought that King Yama would be the ultimate. Then I was convinced that nothing would be greater than the daikaioh when he was first introduced. Then there was the Kaioshin.

So is the omni king the true ultimate or will there be yet another king of omni kings? What do you think?
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>>143353413
SSG >> Vegito

Exponentially stronger than anything before that point

Power of six saiyans and a miracle > Power of two saiyans.
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>>>143333333
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>>143353644
Who cares he looks like a gay little faggot to me????
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>>143353309
>isn't FTrunks in his 30's now?
I think he is

>>143353624
>Did PIlaf and gang steal his sword?
No. He still has it
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>>143353644
Look at the way he's designed lad, of course he's the ultimate stronk.
However he "doesn't fight" so he'll probably have some fighting counterpart at some point.

>>143353687
Sh-Shut up you idiot!
He might see you typing that and blow this universe up!
Is that what you want!?
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>>143345984
>>143350716
The events of Battle of Gods causes Goku to absorb the god power into his body, powering up his base form and all his other forms. He can't use the Beyond God versions of those forms anymore, so the point is moot.
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>>143353644
Just wait till Tori-bot shows up
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>>143353421
No considering he even warned 18 to run away from Cell and was present when she got her bomb removed
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>>143353775
>Sh-Shut up you idiot!
He might see you typing that and blow this universe up!
Is that what you want!?
Hello I am that guys room mate he just blinked out of existence please call the fire department
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>>143353421
Future Trunks left knowing what happened to 18 at the end of the Cell Saga. He was also left knowing that Goku wanted to stay dead during that time. I mean, in both cases, it was when the Z-Warriors were reviving everyone who was killed by Cell, Future Trunks included.
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>>143353644
Toribot
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>>143353775
>Look at the way he's designed lad, of course he's the ultimate stronk.

Because he looks non-threatening? There are a lot of those people in DB. Picture related was said to be the master of all masters. As a kid, I thought he was the ultimate.
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>>143353644
>symbol for heaven on chest
>arrow pointing to crotch

Bitches love riding the Omni-Pony.
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I thought that it worked like this

>Goku becomes Super Saiyan God
>God form is absorbed into his body, losing the form but gaining the power permanently in base form
>Goku turns Super Saiyan in his new "base god" default form which makes SSJ have blue hair
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>>143353425
>Wait didn't Beerus get his power level stated at some point? Wouldn't SSB+Kaioken send him beyond or are we back to shit not mattering as long as Goku just keeps getting stronger?

Toriyama said he doesn't plan for Goku to surpass Beerus any time soon. No power levels aren't linear, they're exponential, so however this makes sense it makes sense I guess.

Beerus is just stronger for now, that's the only thing to understand.
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>>143353921
>implying he's not just hiding his powerlevel
I bet he taught Beerus how to fight lad.
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Since Z-Fighters minus Vegeta keep their bodies in the afterlife, what do you guys think they're doing? Discussing? Watching Earth?
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>>143353425
>>So we're shortening Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan to Blue? Works for me.

Whis gave it a canon name after Goku and Vegeta were retarded.
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>>143353980
Beerus pissed his pants when he saw SSB+Kaioh-ken
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>>143353491
Oh hey, are you that SEAfag that pops up to troll iM@S threads on /vg/?
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>>143352376
Still think the reason goku got the heart virus was devilman power getting stronger and fucking up gokus heart.
There's no way someone who always makes light of their adversaries to not be evil at least a bit.
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>>143353964
That doesn't explain why he can go SSJ1 and SSJ2 after having God Ki.
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>>143354045
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>>143353750
if he is 20 years older than lil trunks then he is.
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>>143354047
He didn't expect Goku to be catching up to him this quickly
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>>143353964
That was what people assumed, it's actually that he absorbed God essence but that didn't consume the form.
Perhaps training with Whis is what actually let him go Red again but there clearly is a difference between Red and the base absorbed forms
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>>143354106
>H-HE'S FAST
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>>143353145
Chi Chi wasn't preggo by the time Goku died.
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>>143348884
God I love Beerus, he has to be my favorite of the new characters.
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>>143354093
Who says he can't? He just ain't.
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>>143354146

But still no match for THE FASTEST IN THE UNIVERSE!
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>>143354175
Him and Whis are my favourite peanut gallery. I love that they just kinda stand around and commentate on the stupid shit that happens to Goku and friends
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>>143354148
Chi-chi just raped Goku on his deadbed because she wanted another kid.
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>>143354148
Yes she was.
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>>143353938

And this guy has the symbol for "greatest" on his crotch. The snake way was probably built in his honor.
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>>143354238
There is literally no evidence that that is true
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>Goku doesn't go Super Sayian God Blue Kaio Ken x20 in the manga

I'm really disappointed
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>>143354238
No Goten was conceived right before the Cell Games, after Goku was warned of his disease.
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>>143353900
/thread
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>>143354266
>grand kai
>canon
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>>143338607
Is Mai like 50 in the future version?
Why did she look young? She would have already been through menopause
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>>143354301
I liked it but it didn't make sense mathematically and created plot inconsistencies regarding stamina
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>>143350090
He can no longer use it remember?
Not after he tried to use bulma sex appeal to persuade the old kaio.
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What does this mean?
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>>143354326
Funny thing about Grand Kai is that he was designed by Toriyama himself and even managed to make a brief cameo in Dragon Ball Kai.
He is the most canon non canon a character can get
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>>143354338
Seems like the youth wish might've happened before the Androids. During the 2 year time skip. Thus, they were turned into babies.
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>>143354288
Goten fucking up Future Trunks is pretty big evidence.
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>>143354413
>he was designed by Toriyama himself
Yeah because he's literally Roshi
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>>143351666
IMO they are not natural creatures and do not care if God of Everything decides to undo the existance.
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>>143354409
>down then swirl
Straight into the shitter, like DBS
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>>143354219
This.
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>>143354408
He uses it with Uub in the rerelease chapters no?
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Does Bra wear bra ?
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>>143354338
Pretty sure the Pilaf gang got turned into children off-screen somewhere before the Raditz-saga or during the 3 years of training just after the Trunks-saga.
So her age in the future saga does make sense.
Maybe.
Probably not.
Fuck it, it's animu I don't gotta explain shit.

>>143354409
Pretty sure it's just Whis' signature m8.
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>>143352774
This makes no sense
He should be able to lift it, or at the least blast it away
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>>143338328
DBZ toonami cut epis: Free the future
http://movpod.in/x2rj89m1yuiv
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>>143354522
The Metalman could be pushing down as well as weighing that much senpai.
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>>143354452
That's why he's so lovable
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DBS is fucking so much things up.

Inconsistent as fuck
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>>143354602
Just read the manga instead if you're serious about consistency
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>>143352774
>>143354522
He's trying to lift someone stronger than Majin Buu whose fat ass weighs a gorillion tons. It's the robot's natural weight plus his strength.
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>>143352766
he because he locked the machine to that timeline so it doesn't create more
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>>143354569
>how does physics work 101
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>>143354602
>expecting consistency in Dragonball

This isn't new anon. Nobody watches/reads this series for consistency. It's just dumb fun, people who expect too much of it are bound to be disappointed.
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>>143354510
>Mary Sue vs. OW THE EDGE
I'm still mad they made something WORSE than Golden Frieza.

I hope they both lose.
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>>143354718
It's Ki physics, I ain't gotta explain shit
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>>143354718
How DOES physics work with all the Ki shit going on?
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>>143354653

>Vegeta can't even lift 1000ton as SS2

Meh
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>>143354823
See above
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>>143354653
The manga is worse, though.
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>>143354655

Nice headcanon.

>stronger than Majin Buu

http://b.1339.cf/gteyckb.mp3
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>>143354602
the only inconsistency right now is the ssj blue kaio ken and the ssg difference in the manga


other than that it is actually really neat, you just don't understand time lines
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>>143354758

I want King Swole to destroy Bra just to make up for how fucking awful literally everything about her was.

>Hurr don't turn Super Saiyan 2 Bra, you'll kill us all!
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>>143354881
Prove he isn't.
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>>143338328
That shit bugged me too. They even fucked up trunks ssj 2 hair. I bet thst they will fix it on the Blue ray release. Also trunks ssj 2 has 2 small bangs. He did have it when he kicked dabura in the face on the flash back.
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I think I figured out the mystery. Listen to this: We can safely assume that Son Gohan's father (I mean the man who raised Goku not his son) was called Gohan. Gohan called his son Son Gohan. Makes sense. Son Gohan wanted to keep this tradition when he named Son Goku. But he didn't call him Son Son Gohan. So who is Goku (whose son Son Goku is)? Bardock, right? Nope. Son Gohan never met Bardock and if he did, he would've called the little boy Son Bardock. Son Gohan therefore must've met somebody who introduced himself as Goku and who looked very similar to the small boy he found. Black!
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>>143354881
You're a fucking retard. Base form vegita and Goku are stronger than fucking mystic absorbed buu
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>>143354926

Buu would wreck him.
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>>143354868
No it isn't you goof, anime has Hit increasing his Tokitobashi length for the sake of "growth".
Also Goku somehow stacks Blue and KK after stating it has stamina issues.
And finally Goku moving through stopped time and having power that dwarves Vegeta in comparison all were shitty writing compared to Toyotaro's logical explanations.
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>>143354962

SURE

http://b.1339.cf/ioybdyg.mp4
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SO

What is the opinion on the following;

How strong are Goku and Vegeta's regular SSJ forms now?

Did their Base forms become largely stronger with the absorption of God ki?

For instance if Gokus Base form is now as strong as Ultimate Gohan was, does SSJ1 still give a 50x multiplier? That'd mean Goku is so above and beyond anything in DBZ in Base form alone.

Why would they even use super saiyan now?

Unless the case is they're only marginally stronger in Base form (Base form never really made massive leaps) and their true strength lies in tapping in to Super Saiyan blue
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>>143354961
I get what you're saying but holy fuck you could have worded that better
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I'd like to believe Kid Buu (MAJIN BUU JUNSUI/PURE) was strong enough to take on all these new villains.
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>>143351666
Can't Whis "Give Beerus do overs if he destroys something to hastily" So he can control time and not get in trouble for it, pretty important.
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>>143354912
Thing is, according to Salagir she technically isn't a Saiyan.
"She's a Potara offspring. Which is totally different to being the offspring of a Saiyan."
So she won't lose because "lol she's not limited to only being normal Saiyan-tier because she isn't one! :D"
Plus in Bardocks future vision Cold is in a tank rekt.
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>>143354912
King Cold is just as bad as her at this point.
>herpaderp strong as android 16
>this isn't even my final form
>NOW WATCH AS I BECOME THE EDGYSAURUS REX

I hope they both lose. Bra needs to be taken down a peg and Cold is worse than Golden Frieza.
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>>143354912
>not wanting a cute half naked girl to destroy the world
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>>143355125
Beerus probably can probably fully vaporize him with ease
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>>143355125
Considering Kid Buu was equal to SS3 Goku in DBZ before all the colossal power ups and strength Goku has gained over the next few years, I'd say no.

I'd like to think Buuhan could, but it looks dodgy. SS3 Gotenks is weaker than Vegetas Base form now after all.
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>>143355065
>Why would they even use super saiyan now?
To hide their true power from their enemies
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>>143349294

Mira looks like Super Freakazoid.
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>>143354408
He doesn't contain evil within him. he doesn't maintain evil within him. he does not mask his sins; all of his actions are solely for betterment and not for selfish gain, even though he is an uneducated, naive, simpleton who doesn't think things through.
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>>143354976
>>143355027
I ain't seein' any proof nigga.
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>>143355084
Explain it to me please because I can't figure it out.
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>>143355065
If you take the purple drank episodes as fully canon, base vegeta is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.

As for the "multipliers," Toriyama's never paid attention to them and was surprised when autists kept bringing them up.
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>>143355125
Kid Buu wasn't even as strong as Super Buu, and Super Buu would have been fucking wrecked by Beerus
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>>143355125
Vegeta in BOTG surpassed SS3 Goku, who was stronger than Kid Buu. SS2 Vegeta at that point was still weaker than Ultimate Gohan. Sorry my man.
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>>143355065

My headcanon: God ki is separate from regular Ki. It didn't add to their already existing power, but provided them with a new power to tap into.

After Whis training, I'd say that Goku's base form is similar to base Vegito.
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>>143355276
Chapters not included in Tori's plot outlines will never be acknowledged as "fully canon"
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>>143355262

Here:

Buu > Magetta

http://b.1339.cf/aiflnuc.mp3
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>>143354077
That would be a nifty twist. After experiencing the death of his best friend, he becomes a ruthless legend that was nothing more than myth, yet activating something dormant within him.
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>>143355125
Keep believing that, your delusions won't save you when this asshole comes for your waifu.

GET READY TO BE BLACKED
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>>143345766
>14 Years old
>Chibi Trunks
Last episode the little nigga couldn't even solve basic algebra.
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>>143354219
Like the two old puppets from the muppets.
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>>143353076
Flanderized.
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>>143355344
But how do we know if it is included or not?
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>>143354522
Maybe an increase in ki doesn't necessarily mean a proportional increase in raw strength. The metalmen could be resistant to ki based attacks because of their physical nature.
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>>143355348
You'd be wrong though.

Magetta >>> Buu
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>>143354758
>Mary Sue
that doesn't mean what you think it means
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>>143351950
Nope the anime version was infinitely better.
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>>143355436
It really wasn't
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>>143355389
The story writers are credited in the end credits
We will also know for sure when the Trunks arc is shown in the manga.
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If Goku in base is as strong as a Super Saiyan God, then...

Super Saiyan, a 50x multiplier, would make him 50x stronger than he was as a Super Saiyan God

Super Saiyan 2 would make him 100x Stronger than a Super Saiyan God

Super Saiyan 3 would make him 400x stronger than a Super Saiyan God

So what does Super Saiyan Blue multiply his power by?

Is Beerus really stronger than 400 Super Saiyan Gods? If not then SSJ3 Goku should bee enough to kick his ass. Super Saiyan Blue should annihilate him.
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>>143355436
It was for hype but not for plot consistency
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>>143355455
But it was.
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>>143355502
Just fucking ignore the stupid multipliers. They're just talking bullshit
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Black Goku is Goku who, in the afterlife, became the God of Destruction.

He killed his attendant. Attendants need to keep Gods of Destruction in control. Goku has become corrupt by the power of destruction.

Black wants to destroy the altered timeline "for the sake of justice" because time travel allowed a world that was doomed to survive.

Whis knows he's right and will forbid Beerus from inferering. No amount of food will convince him.

Goku and Vegeta will have to fight Black, who is Goku that has ascended as a God of Destruction.

It will be tough.
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>>143355274
Son Gohan (goku adoptive grandfather) literally means "son of gohan", bacause his father was named Gohan, and he named baby kakarott "son goku" because he tought he was the "son of Goku" and the original Goku is Black.
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>>143355502
>Nigger keeps with the multipliers
M8 the whole point of Namek was that Ki can't be calculated, is not a set number.
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>>143353309
And Mai is in her 60's.
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According to the timeline on the Dragon Ball Wiki, Trunks should be at least 13.

Why does he look and act much younger?
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>>143355343
That's pretty much it. If God Ki was permanently a part of base form the power scaling would be different
Goku wouldn't have transformed like he did against Trunks if he always had God Ki tapped
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>whis calling out time travel as bad and wrong
>fucker does it on a semi-regular basis
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>>143355611
Goku was the same age when Dragon ball started, and he looked like he was in the single digits.
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>>143355591
>Son Gohan (goku adoptive grandfather) literally means "son of gohan"
You do realize how East Asian names work, right? "Son" is Goku's and Gohan's last name.
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>>143355600
Chronologically.
Biologically she seemed about Trunks' age
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>>143355611
Its been stated several times now that Sayian children stay young for a long time, then suddenly grow into adults.
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So when they make Buu get angry again and become Super Buu who is he going to absorb that'll be a real threat?

Goku?
>Vegeta becomes SSB3 to win?

Vegeta?
>Goku becomes SSB3 to win?

Beerus?
>Vegito returns as SSB to wreck shit?

Whis?
>Vegito SSB and Beerus team up?

>>143355591
Thanks for the translation nigga.
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>>143355611
Goku was 14 at the start of DB, Saiyans go through sudden growth spurts.
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>>143355673
I know, I'm not >>143354961, I'm just explaining his retarted babbling.
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>>143355502
>If Goku in base is as strong as a Super Saiyan God, then
He's not, there's a reason why he transformed to Red against Hit
The Dragon Ball Wiki got BTFO'd
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>>143355707
Could've sworn he was 12, but still.
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>>143355692
>9-year-old Gohan
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>>143355707
Full blooded Saiyans age different. Christ, Gohan and Future Trunks see examples.
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>>143355502
>Super Saiyan, a 50x multiplier,

This is where it technically becomes fanon

50x multiplier was only a thing in the games, and data-books that the original creator was never really part of. For Toriyama, SSJ just "He's stronger now".

SSG just means "He's even stronger now, even more than fusion". Also his base form isn't as strong as SSG, he can still turn into SSG. It was his SSJ form in the movie that was as strong as SSG after he absorbed its power.
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>>143338328
>waah waah my battle shounenshit powerlevel faggot hair is wrong
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>>143355348
>http://b.1339.cf/ioybdyg.mp4
virus!
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>>143355673
>last name
"surname" or "family name"
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>>143355760
Take this
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>>143350174
His earrings are gold with a silver clasp
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>>143355707
>>143355730
>>143355766
>>143355662
Goku was 12. He thought that 14 came after 11, so he got his age wrong at first.
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>>143355591
Someone has to say it: you're a fucking idiot
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>>143355730
Dragon Ball Minus revealed that he's actually older than he thought, he was born the year after Bulma was.
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>>143338607
>Implying most people wouldn't jump at the chance to fuck their wife as a child
Woo boy
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>>143343407
Actually we can surmise Trunks' age by the fact that there's a 17 year time difference between his future and the Androids attacking: at which point he was an infant, ergo he was 17 when he gets back to the main timeline to help fight the Androids.

So:
Starts at (17)
1 year in HTC (18)
1 year in HTC (19)
He travels back 17 years again to get help for Black, which means the same number of years have passed since the Cell Games and current Super, so the 7 year timeskip plus the 2 years since Buu, and Trunks returning to his time and coming back (28)

Granted I'm kind of fuzzy on how much time has passed in Super, but IIRC Trunks should be 28 by now.
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>>143356014
SHE SAID SHE'D PICK RADITZ AND GOKU UP, SHE SAID!
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>>143356064
>Mai
>wife
She was his platonic love, at best.
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>>143355970
you can't even read senpai
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>>143356095
Did you calculate the fact that he wasn't conceived yet on his initial visit to Goku? Gotta give him at the very least 9 months after the initial travel
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>>143355432
Then you forget some of the bullshit she's gotten away with.

>Bra don't get angry over this, stay chill, and don't kill your opponent. I forbid you from killing her.
>Ok
>ur a dumb kid
>I KILL YOU
>oops
>Oh well whatever, I guess that's fine
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>>143352702
Look at the name of the game
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>>143342439
I still don't understand this.

What exactly is efficiency when talking about transformations? Is it speed? Is it something else?

I know the transformations are for power, but what they lose as a con to be an inefficient form?
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>>143356254
Wtf are you saying?
Whatever you posted previously is literally full blown retard level
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>>143356297
As I understand it, Whis is saying that if someone is weaker than or equal in power to Hit, he can use his power to leap forward a full 0.1 seconds. But against someone greater in power, he can't leap that far ahead of them
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>>143356246
silly anon
there's no such thing as "platonic love" in anime
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>>143356297
Think of it as spells in a video game.
Transformations grant power ups but they cost an initial "manacost" for entering the transformation and an additional stamina cost for maintaining the buff
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>>143356339
>Whatever you posted previously
>>143355714
read all the thread before posting senpai
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Just Yamcha my shit up, senpai.
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>>143354409
It's the gesture you do while moving the ice on the glass with whiskey.
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>>143356495
>Not even SSR let alone Blue
This is going to be very very padded out isn't it?
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>>143356495
BLACKED
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>>143356483
If you think "Son Goku" means "Son of Goku" like you stated previously you should kill yourself.
Please update me what your definition of Son is
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>>143356518
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>>143345984
When Goku fights Beerus using SSJ Red, he eventually returns to his base form but retains his God Ki. That is what the poster is referring to as Beyond God. His base form with god ki is more pwerful than vanilla ssj3 was ever was without god ki.
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>>143356297
Time-leap isn't 100% as effective against someone who is entirely stronger than him.

It still has some effect, but not the full effect. The more exponentially stronger they are, the less of an effect.

Hit was originally stronger than Goku in the fight, so it had full effect, but divine Goku surpassed him slightly so it lost part of the effect. However Hit revealed that he was holding back his real power the entire time, so he could time-freeze divine Goku again. But then Goku revealed his double divine power, and was able to surpass again, but then Goku realized that Hit was still holding back from using his real techniques since they're kill techniques.

So Goku says they'll fight again later, when Hit is allowed to try to kill him, so that he doesn't have to hold back.
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i fukcing HATE chi chi why does she always cuck goten its so fucking gay I want to see goten WTF
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>>143356556
>If you think "Son Goku" means "Son of Goku" like you stated previously
>being this retarded
just read the full thread before shitposting senpai
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>>143352572
But shinobu can already travel through time.
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>>143355705

>Buu get angry again

Nigga, he's literally just a manchild version of that good kai now. Remember the last time he got really mad and LITERALLY EXPELLED ALL OF THE EVIL ENERGY FROM HIM AND CREATED EVIL BUU?
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>>143356623
Marriage in Dragonball gives women some kind of disease where they turn into terrible characters.
18 was immune because she's half a robot thankfully
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>>143355572
>implying the omni-king wouldn't know about any of that and wouldn't just erase Black from existence
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>>143356635
I don't see see any amending posts. Regarding the initial statement: whoever wrote it is literally a retard
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>>143338829
why cant they see that this is clearly superior to the shiny shit weve been getting
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>>143356789
freezer
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>>143356789
Golden Frieza.

SS4 Goku wasn't that strong honestly.
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>>143350517
>大人(Adult)
>小供 (Child)
Yeah, they're the same. I still don't understand why she now openly shows her cleavage in adult form.
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>>143356789

Frieza wouldn't even need to use his new Golden Form.
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>>143356745
>whoever wrote it is literally a retard
we agree in that, it wasn't me tought.
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>>143356474
>>143356584

Like xenoverse then? SSJ2 uses more resource per time. SSJ3 the same thing.
I still wonder what are the other variables and how inefficient they are compared to power.
Speed, Accuracy, Ki Cost, Stamina, Defense?
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>>143356887
Then stop posting
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>PBX hasn't made new Dragon Ball porn in years
>Don't know where she's posting her stuff because the wwoec died
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>>143356505
I don't know if you are bullshiting us or not, but that makes so much sense that I will believe you.
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>>143356789
SS4 goku is weaker than SSG mate
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>>143356789
Unless Toriyama comes into this thread with a picture of him with his dick hanging out and a time stamp, it'll never be resolved.
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>>143355572
Plot twist: Black is Goten whos a God of Destruction in the other timeline
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>>143356687
are you fucking retarded?
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>>143351866
>implying gohan and trunks dont train in the hyperbolic time chamber for 3 years and become super sayain gods
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>>143356937

Why would Toriyama be needed?

We're talking about fanfiction vs canon here.
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>>143356918
I would say it's that but drinking whiskey with a straw which is fucking faggish. Which he kinda looks like.
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>>143356939
Maybe, there are at least two other timelines.
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>>143356932
Lol no. Xenoverse implies SSJ4 Goku is able to at least spar with Beerus
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>>143356959
>Chi Chi was great back when she was a kid
>turns into a soccer mom
>Videl was great in the Saiyaman arc
>turns into a boring housewife
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>>143356518
This...gives me weird feelings...like the emotion behind Goku loving his wife with full super saiyan power one last time before the end of the fucking universe...it's not even porn, like...I enjoy reading it for the emotion behind it? What is...happening to my penis...
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>>143357020
>Xenoverse
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>>143357020
>xenoverse
>canon
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>>143357045
That's real love son
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I just want something pure fucking retarded to happen in Super.

I want Yamcha to become the strongest somehow. Super Human God Super Human Kaoiken (Gone Blue)
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>>143357045
exactly, it's not just your run of the mill obscene hentai with cow tits and dirty language.

That sole panel makes my dick rock solid because even though it really isn't porn, the whole idea of having a loving wife with which you can share things (like a bath in this case) sounds neat in my head. It's innocent love, something which I'll probably never have.
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>>143338328
Why did Future Trunks state he was surprised someone could go beyond a Super Saiyan when he himself did it before, and even then remembered Gohan becoming SSJ2 in a previous episode?


HACK FRAUD
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>>143357125
>I just want something pure fucking retarded to happen in Super
black being goten and turning into SS4 would be great
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>>143357256
He was surprised at SS3, ya dingus
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>>143357256

He said he was surprised someone could go beyond a super saiyan who has already went beyond a super saiyan, you illiterate faggot fister
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>>143354209
Sanikku plz sty ded
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>>143349877
The earring is from Chi-Chi, black is Goten
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>>143354045
>>143354095
At least Toriyama can have fun with himself.
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>black being slim
>long sleeves
>chichi preventing goten to potentially meet black and ft

as a long time gotenfag, please be goten. this is his much needed character development ffs.
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Holy fuck, this is going to be the new ending in a few weeks

www facebook com/GojiitaAF/videos/vb.251406535005321/885209364958365/?type=2&theater

what the actual fuck, what is this shit
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>>143356735
Omni-King controls all of the universes
However, Universe 7's timeline has split into 2
Omni-King is aware that something wrong is going on, however, he's waiting to see how things unfold.
IfBlack manages to destroy both U7 and U7 alternate timeline, so be it. It's the law.
Black is not in the wrong.

if Black is stopped, Goku will have to represent U7 and U7's alternate timeline and concince Omni-King to handwave the whole thing.
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>>143357066
>DBS
>canon
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>>143357682
Fits the quality of dbs
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>>143351271
>King of All Cosmos seems like an alright guy though
>destroyed 6 universes just because
>nice guy
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>>143357682
>kikebook
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>>143357777
This.

Also nice quads.
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>>143357682

What the fuck. IN THIS FUCKING ARC?
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>>143357698
it's more than just two, tho
remember: Cell came from another version of Trunks' future
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>>143356562

The world needs more Chichi in her look from "he's always late"
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>>143354961
Why on Earth do you assume human Gohan was named after his father?
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>>143357787
zeno is like beerus
he doesn't give a shit
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>>143357430
>goku vs boss rabbit
fucking hipsters fuck off
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>>143357430
Goku versus Freeza.
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>>143357682
are they gonna make Goten , Trunks and the Pilaf gang dance to this or something?
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>>143357682
I like it more than previous one.

Doesn't mean that it will fit in the slightest.
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>>143357943
>liking one of the best gag fights in the series makes someone a hipster
No, you fuck off.
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>>143356495
>>143356531
Black can probably still go ss, and has been holding back on trunks. Trunks said black was stronger than ss3. Also, black said "So YOUR son goku" or something like that, meaning that Black is totaly goten, and he claimed to be his father up untill this point. Thats probably the reason it showed us goten being held back while picilo and krillen left. The show could have just showed krillen and pic. show up.
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>>143355343
That makes a lot of sense.
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>>143357883
They said that like four universes were destroyed for no reason. Maybe each universe is created from an alt timeline.
>>
HOW THE FUCK CAN BLACK EVEN WIN AGAINST A FUCKING SSJB 10X KAIOKEN?!

Who will Job against Black?
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>>143358061
Gohan and/or Piccolo.
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>>143358061
>HOW THE FUCK CAN BLACK EVEN WIN AGAINST A FUCKING SSJB 10X KAIOKEN?!
He's stronger than SSJ2 Goku in base. When he finally transform, it probably will be some new thing even beyound SSJB.
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>>143357984
>best gag fights
That was Goku vs that purple ninja and I don't see that fight in the pic.
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>>143358061
>10X KAIOKEN
That's not canon, Jim.
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>>143357848
From next episode to be exact
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>>143358096
They're both pretty great.

Power poling rabbits to the moon > power pole in Murasaki's ass

for me at least
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>>143338328
Christ.
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>>143358131
I would've bought it if that was the ending song for the Mai episode alone.
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>>143357993
I have to agree this is not that wrong. But this is similar to the monaka shit before. I think of it more like people will ponder its Goten on one episode and then he isn't.

Demigra is the most reasonable thing to happen, at least some Demigra wannabe.
>>
Future episode titles.

Episode 50 - “Goku vs Black“.

Episode 51 - “Missing Mai across time” a

Episode 52 - “Gohan and Future Trunks”

Episode 53 - “Black’s Identity Revealed”
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>>143356873
>I still don't understand why she now openly shows her cleavage in adult form.
If you had cleavage, you'd do the same thing.
>>
I wonder what color kid Mai's panties are.
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>>143358199
It says Mai's feelings transcend time in the dragon ball wiki.
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>>143358199
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>>143358277
That's the correct tittle. >>143358199 is a mistranslation.
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>>143358199
>Episode 52 - “Gohan and Future Trunks”
plllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssseee let these two fuse. God damn, Adult Gohan and Future Trunks would be the best fusion. Future trunks has nothing to go back to anyways. Patora gohan/trunks
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>>143358355
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>>143356903
Dude that's not what was written in the comic

"Efficiency" was used to describe the effewcts of time leap

Opponent is stronger = less efficiency = shorter time leap

That's the same as Chaotzu's block. Ineffective vs Nappa, because Power trumps Tricks in Dragonball

That's the same as Vegetto Candy, for the same reasons
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>>143358112
Kek, I was just about to post this
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>>143358225
that's not for you to ever know anon
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>>143358376
This guy is referring to current Gohan
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>>143357698
>>143355572
samefagging for attantion, because posts with an image attached are skipped less
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>>143358447
I know, but someone needs to remind Trunks Future Gohan is dead for reasons
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>>143358355
>Future trunks has nothing to go back to anyways
You know, now I wonder if they have the balls to kill him. He has no way to return (for now), there's nothing waiting for him. Having him stay in the main cast would just feel odd, and he can't be revived with Earth Dragonballs.

Unless they have Time-loli pick him up after they defeat Black.
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>>143358199
>"Missing Mai across time"
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>>143357682
This must be some kind of elaborate joke. I refuse to believe it until I see it.
>>
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>>143358225
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>>143358333
24 july is a break, that's in a month
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>>143358566
>Ox-king still alive

How old is he suppsoed to be, anyway?
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>>143358578
mai the best, in super she's slut
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>>143358597
Older than Bulma's parents.
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>>143358482
Xenoverse probably isn't canon.
Plus, if he patoras with gohan or some shit, maybe he can be considered part of this timeline.
>>143358481
F.Trunks and C.Gohan are probably around the same level now, he got fucked up real fast against ss3 goku.
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>>143358578
i remember getting a boner from that excact same scene when i was like 9

im 30 now an it still sends blood down my benis
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>>143358578
Good to know that they kept Mai being stacked.
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>>143358663
Maybe they just need to train together in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
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>>143358679
it's interesting you remember that.
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>>143358380
Ah! I read it now, I got confused with something I read yesterday.

But Blue Form Vegeta wasn't working properly, this is why it was weaker?
The reason Goku went Red Form was to not risk the "weak" Blue Form because it was not transformed properly?

It's safer to use your hands in a fight then a sword, if compared to using your hands, your are a shit swordsman?
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>>143358597
You're asking that in a setting where guys like Roshi run around and that guy is 300+
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>>143358578
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>>143358482
Super Shenron could probably re-build planet earth in the future!
w8 n see !
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>>143358748
Roshi is immortal
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>>143358802
There's his sister who I doubt got some of that.
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>>143358802
Young roshi is cool as fuck. They should bring him back as a Z-fighter. He was probably the strongest human ever.
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>>143358659
To this day I just can't get used to Vegeta's GT look.
>>
>>143358745
According to vegeta, Goku went Red instead of Blue because he was saving Blue for later.

Goku forfeited. Perhaps, he wants to surprise Hit with Blue next time they meet, without a no-killing restriction
>>
>>143358566
>Videl's mother
Wait, I haven't thought about her, to be honest.
>>
>>143352685
He cant be, in Trunks timeline goku wasnt there to impregnate chichi

>People forget Trunks still had to go and defeat his versions of the andriods
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>>143358879
Having Roshi kick ass again in RoF was so sweet.

>strongest human ever

Now you got me thinking. Where would Satan fit on that list? I'd place him on top ten personally.
>>
>>143358911
Videl's mother is dead, that girl is one of Hecule disciples.
>>
>>143358802
How about Master Shen, who was his rival under the same master?
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>>143358879
Yamcha is miles better, not to mentiom Crilin.

You could suppose he was the best human before aliens and gods became a thing. Maybe.
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>>143358754
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>>143358909
Also I never been so confused with canon and non-canon. On the anime it seems Red won't show up again, on the manga it's like a power up.
>>
>>143338328
lol
>>
>>143355718
He is isn't that what the fight vs monaka beerus showed
>>
>>143358975
Satan is definitely weaker than general Blue, Taopaipai, Ox King, tenshinhan, Crilin, Yamcha, Master Shen, Master Roshi, Master Mutaito, Nam, Chichi

Perhaps, he is weaker than Murasaki the Ninja.

Definitely stronger than most of the other scrubs
>>
>>143358989
He got blasted away by Roshi.

Then he came back with robo-Pai Pai and left for good after Tien defeated him
>>
>>143358994
He trained those niggas though. Before aliens and gods showed up, there was no reason to get super tough. I didn't watch dragon ball, but didn't roshi teach goku kamehameha? Im willing to bet if he was young again, he'd outclass most of the z-fighters. I know that broly movie isn't cannon, but doesn't he do some crazy muscle move where he buffs up? If roshi had all the same training as goku has had from the different gods and shit, he'd probably be just as strong. Plus goku and vegita train 24/7, while roshi was just trying to get pussy.
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>>143351059
>he takes Dragon Ball's plot seriously
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>>143359011
their first night together would be the cutest sex in history
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>>143357259
I think fans everywhere would JUST
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>>143359148
Woops, almost forgot Uub. Yep, he's human
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>>143359153
>didn't roshi teach goku kamehameha
He used it to extinguish a mountain which name I forgot, and Goku was like "huh, wonder if I can do that"

Roshi didn't teach Kamehameha to anyone. Everyone learned it on their own.
>>
>>143351059
>None of the Kais including King Kai think to mention this ever
Kaio wasn't paying attention to anything during the Cell arc. Remember when Goku had to fill him in on everything when he went there?
>>
>>143353644
>king yemma
>kami says king kai is stronger than him
>king kai says vegeta is stronger than himself
so you were an idiot?
>daikaioh
>his only appearance is getting his fat self stolen by buu
yeah, you were stupid.
This and beerus are the first time since kami that a god has been introduced stronger than anything else present.
>>
>>143359149
So?
That nigga is still the same age as Roshi, which is over 300 years.
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>>143358909
He went Blue for the final Tokitobashi and his Kamehameha
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>>143359216
probably
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>>143359252
To be fair, would you?

Earth is only one small planet in his section of the universe, and he probably figured a long time ago that Goku and co. would make sure it stays okay without him.
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>>143359153
Roshi said it took 40 years to him to learn Kamehameha, while Goku was able to shoot one one the fly after seeing it once (destroying a car in the process)

They're in different leagues
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>>143359216
Too bad it can no longer happen because F.Mai is dead.
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>>143359343
Would be better if she were younger.
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>>143359384
Tien also learned it after seeing it once, and Krillin figured it out too.

Kamehameha it's pretty basic move.
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>>143359474
>staying dead
>in dragon ball
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>>143359474
F. Mai a cute!

Cute!
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>>143359482
And Roshi needed 40 years to learn it, while most of humaity would fail even if they tried their whole life.

It's a "basic" move only by extremely high genius standards, and Roshi was regarded as a genius
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>>143358578
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>>143359580
Roshi was THE worlds greatest martial artist at the time.
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>>143359384
>>143359482
Didn't Goten and Trunks also learn it?
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>>143359623
AND it took 40 years for him to learn Kamehameha.

This proves that Goku is in an entirely different league.

Note that Goku was acknowledged by Tenshinhah, who easily surpassed Roshi, and even by Vegeta, who was a genius even by saiyan's standards.

Goku is just that special.

(Also note: Goku has only ever acknowledged Majin Bu as a genius, and has chosen Ub as his best sparring partner to train the rest of his life. not vegeta. Ub.
That happened after God power was unlocked. Deal with it. Ub>Vegeta)
>>
The fuck is even going on anymore.
In DBZ time travel just created alternate timelines, you couldn't affect the future.
Now Whis is saying some bullshit about affecting future by traveling to the past.
Toriyama, plz, get your shit together.
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>>143359800
>Creating a new timeline that previously didn't exist doesn't count as affecting the future
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>>143359797
Well, Vegeta DIED and couldn't even take the weakest form of Buu with him.
>>
>>143359800
This was not changed.

The future from which future trunks comes is a different future. The timelines are still separated.

This is still a violation of the laws that regulate time travel
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>>143359797
You know that Uub isn't happening, don't you?
>>
>>143359585
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>>143358566
Chichi looking very good for a non saiyan of her age

Videl looking thicccc.
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>>143359884
I'm saving my keks for later
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>>143359797
Well, he didn't learn the Kamehameha, he had to create it, which is a bit different

It could be that ki blasts straight up didn't exist on earth until he developed the Kamehameha and Shen developed the Dodon Ray
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>>143359797
I always thought that he implied that it takes 40 year to learn it because that's how long it took Gohan and Ox-King to learn it.

Either way, Roshi's old and busted.
>>
>>143358977
That girl is Launch, you illiterate soab
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>>143360000
You are the illiterate soab, anon.
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>>143360000
No, she's not.
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>>143358566
>gohan's expression

Smug cunt
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>>143360064
Can't blame him tho
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>>143360064
He is the son of one of the strongest person on the universe, banged the daughter of richest man on the planet and got to be something he wanted his whole life.

You'd be smug too
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>>143360123
> banged the daughter of richest man on the planet
But he didn't fuck Bulma.
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