Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1580

れイムムモ尺ですか？

私わパンよりご飯が好きだ。

Joke's on you anon I did all my reps while there was no thread.

shit op is shit

>>143082875
your face is a くそ　アニ眼彭や

Is there a good site with all of the main sets of words that are normally distinguished by pitch accent?

i think i broke rikai sama

when i press r over a word nothing happens, anyone know how to fix this?

>>143083018

Restart browser, anon-kun

>>143083040
already tried that, still isnt working

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1. How long have you been studying?

2. Why did you start studying?

3. Vocab level

4. What kind of stuff can you read/watch fairly easily?

5. What stuff do you like to read/watch

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Post jcat scores

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おはようおにいちゃん

しょんぼりしてないで

>>143083192
死ね

>>143083018
>>143083088
how bout you take a good look at what the hotkeys do on rikaisama

>>143083120
1: 1 year
2: to learn all the kanji
3: no fuck vocab I just care about kanji
4: RTK
5: kanji

>>143083259
what's you're favorite kanji

Should I change my last name to desu?

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>>143083361


ですですですですですですですですですですです

No, you shouldn't. Twit.

watashi wa mike desu desu

>>143083298
孑

>>143083018
reinstall it, the xpisignatures disable thing broke on a recent update

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>>143083120
1. since i handed myself over to dear tyler kim back in november 2015
2. anime
3. over 10
4. i can read anime books as long as they have subtitles
5. i just constantly watch season 2 of yuru yuri on repeat with the commentary track turned on

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>>143083120
てめえの出身ってどこのか

>>143082799
>わ

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>>143083192
何いって、俺は大丈夫
多分

わたし和二品デ酢

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>>143083674
おおおおーすごい日本だよねー上手

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I'm glad for pausing on emulators and transcribed scripts online.

Go to 2 Channel you weebs.

>>143083834

God that looks like such ass. I couldn't even read that if it were in English.

>>143083890
It's just the intro, afterwards there's a nice auto-scrolling narration in standard font, with character names that have no readings.

>>143083890
It looks fine.

>>143083890
>>143083834

What's hard about that?

>>143083890
I suck at kanji and could read it just fine

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is there something more comfy than learning jap with anki?

>>143083834
>the adjectives + き meme
such literary
wow

>>143084016
I didn't say it's hard, I just need time to read and look up words but it moves on automatically.

>>143084016
It probably only shows for like 2 seconds before moving to the next screen. In addition to grammar that is unfriendly to beginners, surely you can figure this out.

>>143084058
but you have no problem with たり as past tense and されど？

>>143084101
You think some faggot spouting leddit memes even understands half of it?

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>>143083120
>1. How long have you been studying?
7月
>2. Why did you start studying?
わからん
>3. Vocab level
ゼロ
>4. What kind of stuff can you read/watch fairly easily?
何も、よつばとぎりぎり
>5. What stuff do you like to read/watch
クレイモアとかはたらく魔王さまとかに将来で

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>>143084057
learning it with aniki

>>143084128
>7月
出来ぬ

>>143084198
if the context is there why does it need a counter

I'm going to nihon in a few months, would like to know to rent a hotel room for 1 day, in Japanese.

This is the best source for help I know..

>>143084101
>たり as past tense

is this a possible use of たり
is it different from the たり in something like ～たり～たりする

>>143084288
because regardless of context ７月 means july and not 7 months

>>143084324
just use english

>>143084366
oh right i forgot they dont have names for months

>>143084336
リセ見発者心初

>>143084324
すみませんが、お尻にちんぽを入れていただきませんか

>>143084324
>>>/trv/

>>143084446
お前こそ初心者なのではないか
私８ヶ月勉強続けている
ただその文法は見たことない

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>>143084701
わからないことは

わからなくってもいいんだよ

しょーもないことだからね

>>143084701
初心者いわれて脊髄反射で同じこと言い返すってお前小学校の何年かよ

>>143084945
しょ 小学生じゃないよ
バカ

>>143084882
意味はわかっているが、どうしてそういう意味なのかわからない

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>>143084454
>>>143084324 (You)
>すみませんが、お尻にちんぽを入れていただきませんか
Are anons here really this bad at moon that they post shit like this?

>>143084455
>>>143084324 (You)
>>>>/trv/

Asking a Japanese language question in the daily Japanese thread, HOW DARE YOU!

>>143085201
this isn't the "make other anons produce japanese for you" thread
this is the "study written japanese on your own time and with little to no regard for production while shitposting in this" thread

>>143085201
>bad at moon
poor bait but I'm sure someone with a fragile enough ego will respond eventually

>>143084882
ダメだよイモウトくん
分からかないなら調べるがいい
簡単に諦めないで

お！
調べて分かった

>お前のお父さんはチョメチョメ
translate it weebs

>>143085911
Joke's on you, my father doesn't love me anyway.

>>143085911
>お前のお父さん
which one?

>>143086163
good one, tyrone

>>143083834
>たり as past tense
I don't get it, why would it be past tense? Seems like a regular use of たり to me.

頭
頭を振る
出会い頭

>>143086661
Meant to quote >>143084101

>>143086661
it's trying to sound classical and literary
hence the 古き and 暗き and されど
http://kobun.weblio.jp/content/たり

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>>143085911
ただ　more common than 単に or are they not comparable

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>>143086661
はつおんがちがうんだよ

古文ちっくな、過去のはつおんは
>た↑り→↓
だよ

とくべつなはつおんだよ

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If you still think you can't learn Japanese, this will restore your confidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNxPRBvRQg

>>143086740
ただ is more versatile
i guess you could use it in some contexts as a replacement for 単に, like ただの
彼は単に冗談としてそれを言った→
彼はただの冗談としてそれを言った
the grammatical structure is different though as you can see
ただ can also mean "free" "ordinary/common" "but/nevertheless" etc. unlike 単に
but jisho can tell you as much

>>143086856
nice thanks
rikai eludes to the flexibility of ただ

>>143086856
oh and you can remove the の in that sentence to keep the grammar structure I guess
yeah ただの is a different meaning than 単に

>>143086818
But there's no point about that video for me, I want to learn moon to read books, which will (hopefully) always use kanji.

>>143086818
Why would anyone think that? Literally all you have to do is keep up with your reps and learn something new every day.

>>143086733
Not totally sure I understand, but is adding たり to a verb just an outdated way of turning it into past tense? Is it different in some way, like pluperfect?

Sorry, the Japanese definition is wrecking me

>>143087028
Because there are some naive people who expect immediate results.

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>>143087135

>>143086818
>felt good about understanding most of what theyre saying
>only noticed the subtitles halfway into it
>probably subconsciously read them from the start
damn it

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書ける漢字っていがいとすくないっていうか

あたしは漢字かくのにがてだよ

よめるけど、かけないの

>>143087234
and youtube now lets people upload subtitles separately so they can be disabled per viewer discretion but ALAS uploaders still hardsub their clips like morons

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>straight-up censorship in my example sentences

>>143086818
For some reason I find it really motivating to know that I can someday surpass these people.

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>>143087061
In Classical Japanese there was a grammatical distinction between simply past tense and 完了 (some action or state being finished).

You have past sense done by き (past the speaker experienced) and けり (past the speaker didn't experience). たり is one way to expess 完了. In modern Japanese this is simply translated as ...た, like you can see on the site or when possible …てしまった to express the 完了 nuance stronger. Past tense and 完了 could be even combined. If I still had my Classical Japanese reading book, I'd show you an example. Anyway, two other uses for this たり are present contunious and the current …たり…たり grammar. Again, this is on the page.

There's also a second たり, the one meaning である/です. Remnant of this is the たる者 grammar from N1. See pic about is usage. Example: 政治家たる者、賄賂を受けるべからず。

>>143087386
Did you study classical japanese? Would you recommend any resources for it?
Some other anon mentioned Classical Japanese: A Grammar. I'm thinking of buying a copy since I can't find scans and I want a good source to learn classical grammar from.

>>143087266
鬻ぐなどの漢字をいつでも書ける。

嘘じゃないよ、「鬻ぐ」は意外と覚えやすい。

>>143087454
Yes. I've got a textbook in my native language written by some of my teachers and their colleagues.

Later, for reading, I had a book called 読解古文. It also had translations to contemporary Japanese, but looking at those sucks the fun away, so don't do it if your book would have them too.

>>143087181
落とし戸を開けちゃだめ

>>143087538
だって...何か下いるの

>正直にそんなこと言うんじゃなかった。
>Honestly I shouldn't have said such a thing.

How does 言うんじゃなかった = shouldn't have? Shouldn't it just be, "I didn't say anything like that"?

>>143087713
http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=んじゃなかった

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>>143087713
発音はだいたい

>ゆーんじゃなかった

だよ。ごめんねおにいちゃん

>>143087386
Whoah, thanks for the explanation.

>>143083834
While we're at it, what's the source of this?

>>143088196
食事って大変な仕事だね

Are there any good anki decks that supplement, or compliment the core 2k/6k one recommended in the guide?

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Is K-on! for recommendable for beginners?

>>143088458
Yes.

>>143088458
You could say most SoL would be suitable for beginners, although that doesn't mean that you won't still have a really hard time understanding anything

>>143088440
Yotsubato's reading pack's deck if you want to read Yotsubato early on (which would be a good thing)
RTK or KD if you want to learn kanji individually (which may or may not be a good thing depending on which learning methods you personally prefer)
DOJG's deck is good for getting familiar with Japanese grammar in general and you can always look stuff up in it through the browser just like in the regular book. Some anons dislike it, although I don't see a downside to it. Personally I'd recommend suspending all the repeat cards with the answer on the front side.

>>143087386
Are you the same anon that talked about the etymology of いにしえ recently?

>>143088673
No, but I can tell you about it too and the difference between it and 昔, which was valid until like Muromachi period, if you want.

>>143088763
Nah I'm good, I was just wondering if there are actually multiple people with a background in Japanese etymology and shit in here.
Funny how sometimes /djt/ seems incompetent as fuck and other times people like you show up.

>>143088763
I like you

Come over to my house and fuck my sister

>>143088830
>not letting him fuck you instead
ケチなやつだね

>>143088803
Normally I just observe.

>>143088907
I doubt my boy pussy would be good enough for a man of such brilliance

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>>143088284
おにいちゃんおなかすいた

どうしようもなく

>>143089765
餓死

Can someone recommend me a good easy VN (other than hanahira) that just resembles your typical cute girls doing cute things SoL series?

I'm not really a fan of the romance or ero focus that you get in a lot of VNs, nor do I really think I'm good enough for anything plot heavy, I just want a VN of cute girls fucking around doing random shit akin to what you get in most SoL anime

>>143089940
大図書館の羊飼い

>>143089966
That's not actually like a SoL anime.

>>143089966
Thanks for the suggestion, that looks good, but the romance / male protagonist tags kind of put me off

>>143090029
What are you even learning Japanese for? Because those are in pretty much everything Japanese media related.

>>143090103
not true

>>143089940
euphoria

>>143090103
Maybe everything VN related, I've watched countless anime series and read plenty of manga that has absolutely nothing to do with romance

>>143090156
The guy is asking about VNs.

>>143090156
.. So why are you looking for VNs? And learning Japanese with anime/manga as the main goal is pretty pointless.

>何やってんだ！？ 家族に恥じかかせんなって言ってんだ！

Is that saying, "I told you not to embarrass our family" or "You said you wouldn't embarrass our family"?

>>143090202
The former.

??

>>143090194
Because VNs are a useful tool for practising listening and reading practice at the same time

I am aware that the majority of VNs don't appeal to me, but I figured there surely must still be some that do, and I just wanted to try and find a few

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>>143089940
>recommend me a VN exactly like Hanahira in every way
>other than Hanahira

>>143087344

What program is this?

>>143090256
>??
So is that just a guess?

>>143090271
Well hanahira is too easy, and pretty bad

Surely that can't be the only SoL VN in existence

>>143090309
There's plenty, but apparently males and romance trigger you so much you can't overlook it.

>>143090340
Well if they have male protagonists and romance they're not exactly SoL are they

>>143090400
Yes they are?

>>143090309
Actually I do have some serious recs
結城友奈は勇者である
結城友奈は勇者であるS
there are also some LNs to go with them if you're into that

>school of fish
>pride of lions
>pack of wolves
>gaggle of geese
>murder of crows

WHY ENGLISH PEOPLE

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お風呂にする？
ご飯にする？
それとも……わ・た・し？

>>143090468
Man, spanish feels so weird on weeb stuff, makes me cringe just from reading it.

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>>143087344
It literally says that Europe is a strong hybrid-race-continent. More liberally, I suppose you could interpret it as "Europe is a strong continent of various peoples".

Since we have Mongols (Finns and Hungarians) and T*rks (Balkan peoples, Ukrainians and part of T*rkey itself) here, I guess it's not wrong.

>>143090461
Because it's poetic as shit. Besides Jap does it worse with EVERY OBJECT and counter words, hell it even has multiple for creatures just like english:
>一匹
>二人
>三羽
>四頭

>>143090498
>cringe
back to le ddit you go

>>143090422
I'd say as soon as you introduce the romance element it kind of overshadows it from just being a pure SoL, even if it does still retain a lot of what you'd typically find in SoL, besides I said in my original post "akin to what you get in most SoL anime", which tend to never touch on romance at all

>>143090431
Thanks man, that actually looks perfect, I'll check it out

>>143090557
fitting in yet?

>>143090461
At least we only do this stupid shit with animals, and even then you can get away with just saying "group of" instead (I'm a Brit and that's what I do). It's not even close to being as bad as counters.

>>143090587
better than you, yeah

>>143090564
Romance is part of life, so it showing up in a slice of life is normal.
>which tend to never touch on romance at all
Not true at all. Haruhi is THE archetypal SoL show, and features both a strong male protagonist presence and romance. Same with Hyouka, Clannad etc. You don't seem to like SoL but rather exclusively the CGDCT subgenre within it.

>>143090668
Typical NEETshitter slacking off. Just do your reps. Now. DO IT.

>>143090202
だ... 誰か? ;_;

>>143090786
Go look up what an imperative is.

>>143090290
>>143090786

な is the key.

>>143090693
I'm pretty sure the archetypal SoL would be something like K-on or Lucky Star, there are way more SoL series that follow that format than there are that follow the format of something like Haruhi

It doesn't make much sense to have a subgenre for the dominant fork and purest form of the genre, it would instead make more sense to classify series that include romance ontop of SoL such as Clannad as a different subgenre from SoL, or series that dabble in many different genres other than SoL such as Haruhi as different

>>143090822
>>143090831

I know it's imperative I just can't figure out who they're saying said the statement in the past with just って言ってんだ

Or is it just not possible to definitively say?

>>143090693
Haruhi is sci-fi/paranormal, not a SoL.

>>143090928
Without context would be impossible to know.

When there's no subject, I always assume the speaker, and in this case, if you think about it, it doesn't sound correct if it's not the speaker:

A. "I told you not to embarrass our family!"
B. "You told me not to embarrass our family!"

Now think of which context would B ever make sense knowing the preceding sentence:
"What are YOU doing?"

Also, I'd always suggest to assume the speaker, at least most of the times there's a line like this, when it's option B, they usually always say って言ってくれたんだ！

>>143091059
>Without context would be impossible to know.
That's what I thought. It's just a comment by a mob character so no real context in the first place. Guess nips just default to speaker like you say then.

>火事のせいでもう家事をできない
糞言語

>>143091372
バカです先輩

when does the feeling of emptiness goes away

>>143091448
数独してください

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How does /djt/ stay active?

Reminder to get through the DoJG deck if you haven't already, assuming that you've started reading. It's been really helpful. It's better than just using DoJG in the way that it was intended.

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>>143091549
I just started with that deck. It's somewhat fun and cozy to read.

>>143091372

問題は何か？

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>>143091526
I'm getting some gains without ever leaving home.

>>143091526
Five faps a day

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Anyone able to decode this bullshit? I refuse to believe even nips can make this shit out.

>>143091777
Best I'd guess is that the middle kanji is 外, but it probably isn't

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>>143091777
んー「例外」かな

>>143091777

Suggestion for the future: On jisho, if you type ＊外, you'll get a list of words that end with 外. 外＊ would give you a list of words that begin with 外. ＊外＊ would give you a list of words that contain 外.

This can be useful if you're having trouble figuring out what a word is.

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>>143092005

Yeah I usually do but not even remotely confident about a single kanji there. And don't think it's >>143091899

Context is a character fleeing in shame if it helps.

If you want to pick up an LN after watching the anime adaption, do you start from the beginning or where the anime left off?

I'm not motivated to read when I know exactly what will happen, but I'm afraid of missing out on all the stuff the anime glossed over.

>>143092060
I can think of very few LNs with anime adaptations that would be worth picking up.

My implication is that most LNs with anime adaptation are crap.

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>>143092059
まあ側対歩！

だよ。こんてくすとがわかればそうみえるよね

がんばっておにいちゃん

>>143092060
Depends, some are good adaptions some are not. Also knowing what happens if good for Japanese practice.

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>>143092145
>側対歩
君、マジで最強な妹だぜ

Do most people here type with kanji or hiragana/katakana? I just started a few days ago and i can pick out a few characters but not all yet and i was wondering.

Also, if you come across a kanji you dont know, would the solution be to find it in a dictionary? Or google it? Or is it easy to figure out through some way.

>>143092059
It looks exactly like 例外, and there's no other possibilities UNLESS they're not on EDICT.

Is there a character named Ami? That looks like a tiny み...

"I won't accept this...!!"
"Ami is an exception tho!!"

Basis is that there's no other kanjis with タ radical/bushu that makes words with anything else other than 外.

>>143092245
By typing do you mean using google IME and the like?

If you come across a kanji you don't know you can use OCR. Google translate lets you draw the characters and recognizes them. Jisho's radical search works too.

>>143092245
The idea of typing with just kana is laughable.

For finding kanji you don't know, try
http://kanji.sljfaq.org/

>>143092401

Imouto already saved me anon but thanks >>143092145

>>143092145
>側対歩
What? Rikai does not understand. Name?

>>143092770
http://www.jra.go.jp/kouza/yougo/w38.html

The amble style of gait for horses.

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What's the next step after finishing Yotsuba?

>>143092817
>>143092145
I'd have never got that. Thank god you nerds exist.

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>>143093003
New Game!

>>143093003
Finishing Yotsuba again to see how much you improved

>>143093003
Keep reading Yotsuba until you can read it fluently, then read Azumanga Daioh.

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>>143093157
>Azumanga

Enjoy wanting to kill yourself every time you see this bitch in a scene

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>>143093234
>bitch
Osaka isn't for bullying, I thought this was a bully-free general.

>>143093298
>Osaka
I wish they called her Texas or something in the dub to match the voice.

>>143093381
I wish all the people involved with the creation of the dub died in a fire before they had the chance to release it

>>143093430
I thought the dub was ok, but it's 100x faster to just read it so I never bothered to watch the whole anime anyway.

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What is the function of いっています in this sentence? Is it from 言う, like という or something?

>>143093476
But it's so much more adorable animated and with voices

Japanese voices that is

懐かしい日本のコピペ置いときます

ルイズ！ルイズ！ルイズ！ルイズぅぅうううわぁああああああああああああああああああああああん！！！
あぁああああ…ああ…あっあっー！あぁああああああ！！！ルイズルイズルイズぅううぁわぁああああ！！！
あぁクンカクンカ！クンカクンカ！スーハースーハー！スーハースーハー！いい匂いだなぁ…くんくん
んはぁっ！ルイズ・フランソワーズたんの桃色ブロンドの髪をクンカクンカしたいお！クンカクンカ！あぁあ！！
間違えた！モフモフしたいお！モフモフ！モフモフ！髪髪モフモフ！カリカリモフモフ…きゅんきゅんきゅい！！
小説11巻のルイズたんかわいかったよぅ！！あぁぁああ…あああ…あっあぁああああ！！ふぁぁあああんんっ！！
アニメ2期決まって良かったねルイズたん！あぁあああああ！かわいい！ルイズたん！かわいい！あっああぁああ！
コミック2巻も発売されて嬉し…いやぁああああああ！！！にゃああああああああん！！ぎゃああああああああ！！
ぐあああああああああああ！！！コミックなんて現実じゃない！！！！あ…小説もアニメもよく考えたら…
ル イ ズ ち ゃ ん は 現実 じ ゃ な い？にゃあああああああああん！！うぁああああああああああ！！
そんなぁああああああ！！いやぁぁぁああああああ！！はぁああああん！！ハルケギニアぁああああ！！
この！ちきしょー！やめてやる！！現実なんかやめ…て…え！？見…てる？表紙絵のルイズちゃんが僕を見てる？
表紙絵のルイズちゃんが僕を見てるぞ！ルイズちゃんが僕を見てるぞ！挿絵のルイズちゃんが僕を見てるぞ！！

>>143093591
上手くいく

>>143093748
That's some shitty writing.

>>143093750

Oh I see.

うまい is modifying 行っている as an adverb.

Thanks

>get to the point where if I have a question I will have far better quality answers by googling it in japanese rather than asking here and get half troll answers, half wrong answers from beginners who have no business answering it
>still visit this shithole
How do I get out of here?

I'm better than you and I know it, weeb

>>143093748
置かなくていいよ

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>>143093381
her va in english was texan? kek
never watched it in english

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1466433460147.webm

>>143093982
I don't remember an advanced question being asked recently.

>>143093982
if you can google it then you shouldn't be asking it in the first place, retard

>>143094191
Yeah, they localised the Kansai dialect as Texan.

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Game over. How bad is my score?

>>143094837
I don't think that's the score you should be looking at

>>143095103
b-but what did I do anki for half a year for?

>>143094837

>suspending cards

>億
>臆

単純に生活していくだけなら、かなり余裕のある感じではあるのだが、利用できるものはなんだって利用した方がいいよな。

Someone translate this because I don't get it

>>143095220
>Babies first radical

噫憶檍

>>143095244
明日から本気出す

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>>143082189
>(Click here to get started with learning right away)

Should this link be left in the guide?

Is this https://www.amazon.com/Kodansha-Kanji-Learners-Course-Step/dp/1568365268 better than RTK?

>>143095429
We've had multiple retards that couldn't be arsed to scroll down complain because the introduction is too long and the guide has too much unnecessary information, so we added that.

It was probably a single guy sperging out but it's not a big deal to add so whatever.

Maybe it should be rephrased to "Click here to skip the guide and go straight to being spoonfed" though.

>>143095315
>噫
>檍
Aren't おく. I had read the furigana first and couldn't understand what was going on.

>>143095429
Oh wait are you one of the guide anons asking? Might've misunderstood your question. Either way I think it should be rephrased.

>>143095244
If X just wants to live a simple life, it's very easy but, things you are able to do should be done.

>>143095528
>so we added that.
It's been part of the new guide since its inception, from what I remember.

And if someone is too lazy to read the guide then they're probably too lazy and/or uncommitted to even learn Japanese in the first place.

>>143095528
By the way, I ( >>143095622 ) am not >>143095429

>>143095591
Thanks, makes sense. I hope I stop being grammar-retarded one day...

>>143095622
>It's been part of the new guide since its inception, from what I remember.
I'm the one that proposed it after one of sakura's episodes, it was a couple weeks or so after the new guide was put up.

But yeah I agree. I don't know about guide anon but I just wanted it there to stop the shitposting at the time, I don't really care about it being convenient or detrimental to new guys.

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>>143092770
>>143092817
手と足がいっしょにでてるってことだとおもうよ

あたしも聞き覚えはあっても

ほんとうのいみはしらないよ

>>143095591
>it's very easy but
Shouldn't the middle part be something along the lines of "despite feeling like there's plenty of leeway"? Or if you want to go with easy, "leading a simple life may seem easy/full of leeway, however one should still do what one can do?"

>>143095851

走ってる少女は縞馬だから意味は >>143092817 の普通の意味だと思うよ、マイ・イモウト。

>>143095591
seems like a weird way to use 利用. are you sure it's not something like "you should use what you can"?

>>143090537
>一匹
Why the fuck is it used for dragons? At least that's what my animu tell me. And I mean bigass droagons, no some small dragonkin.

How do you say "That is one of the reasons for why [...] is [...]"?

For some reason I'm tired mid-day. How do I get rid off that feeling without coffee

>>143096259
Have you been sleeping midday recently? Or just like sleeping 12 hours a day? The more you sleep the more sleep your body wants, it's terrible man.

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>>143096050
This reminds me of a manga

for the germans in here learning nip

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1466327487641.webm

pretty good trick imo

>>143096259
Sleep correctly.
>There is only one formula for healthy and refreshing sleep: Go to sleep only when you are very tired. Not earlier. Not later. Wake up naturally without an alarm clock.
https://www.supermemo.com/en/articles/sleep

>>143096199

Because it's become the default for all animals, though 頭 was (and still is by natives often) used for larger animals so try that.

>>143096204

それはAがBだ一つの理由です。

Maybe.

>>143096287
>>143096392
I slept like 7 hours, which is sufficientI think.
>Wake up naturally without an alarm clock
Well I don't do this, I don't like waking up later than 9.

>>143096346
Did he die

>>143096392
Not everyone here is a NEET, you know.

>>143096442
>Did he die
Seems fake: http://www.adweek.com/socialtimes/magic-trick-death-hoax/78967

Don't worry though at the rate Germany is going some sandniggers will kill him within a few years, praise Merkel.

>>143096442
look at the way he braces for it and basically steps back on his own

>>143096512
>>143096651
I'm not seeing it senpaitachi. How do you fake a shelf falling on you

>>143096685
"Fake" as in it wasn't actually heavy I wager.

>>143096685
Maybe a little ditch for him to roll into

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>>143096685

Anything is possible with movie MAGIC.

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>>143096259
Tea.

>>143096392
Not him, but even if I go to sleep when very tired, it still takes me an hour or more to actually fall asleep, and then I wake up constantly throughout the night.

>>143097250
I need to get some good tea one day, instead of the bad supermarket shit. What's that on the picture like? You drink it?

>>143097309
Lapsang souchong. It's the best black tea I've tried.

For green tea, I like sencha.

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Hmm what do you guys set your "new card a day" limit for 2k_6k in Anki? Should I leave it at 20 for best retention?

「一時間より後」の「後」の読み方を教えて下さい

>>143097937
How many thousands of hours of anime did you watch?

>>143097937
I have it at 10 per day on 3 steps of 1 10 and 15. I used to have it at 20 but it was too much reviewing afterwards.

>>143098087
So much that I can basically speak Japanese...
>>143098152
Wow even 20 might be too much? The number seemed so small to me. I'll be sure to leave it at 20 then!

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I plan on going to Japan next year when I finish graduate school for some vacation. How long should I go? 1-2 weeks?

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>>143097937

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>>143098198
Chances are you already know most of the entry level words. Do 30. Set new cards to 3 steps if you're worried about retention. If you are an autistic NEET and you're absolutely sure you can spend more than half an hour on reviews without giving up after a couple of months then you can do more but no more than 40. When you feel that it's too much or almost all the words are new set new cards to 0 and do only the reps until you have healthy amount of daily reps. Then switch to 20.

>>143098399
Lots of people manage 30. I've never seen anyone do more than that consistently every day for months though.

>>143097937
How much time are you willing to spend on anki every single day?

>learn japanese to fluency
>start Core 2k
>do 200 new cards a day with perfect retention
>post stats on DJT bragging
why hasn't anyone done this

>>143098601
Adding on to this:

If your brain is literally full of holes and you can't remember fucking jack shit and you have a thousand reviews a day, go no lower than 5 new cards per day. Absolutely everyone who's capable of learning new things can learn at least five new things per day. 5 is the absolute bare minimum for the most incredibly disabled of people. I don't mean autism. I don't mean brainfarting. I don't mean having a shitty memory. I mean literally completely unable to function or even dress yourself. In fact, if you need to lower it down to 5 cards per day, you probably aren't capable of reading and understanding this post that I'm writing right now, so limit yourself to 10 instead. And remember: that's for the most incredibly broken of people, not just people who are autistic or have extremely bad ADHD.

>>143098399
I do 25 a day, perfectly fine. I'd say 30 would be manageable.

>>143098775
they have

>>143098630
I've seen it said but never practiced.

30 doesn't sound like much more than 20, but it is in fact a full 50% increase.

>>143098775
Why the fuck should I expend so much energy just to post some epic trol xD shit? I'll let the 12 year olds do that

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Guys which speech bubble do you read first in a situation like pic related? The left one's the higher one up, but the right one's the furthest to the right

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>>143098963
The trick is to be a NEET and do your reps lounging in bed every morning.

>>143098775
You don't even need to know Japanese, you can just lie to Anki by clicking easy on every card, maybe mixing in a miss or two to make it more believable.

I wanted to do it just so I could shitpost with a 10k+ kanji grid, but I could never find a list with that many kanji.

>>143099258
99% of the time you can tell which one to read first because of context. The other 1% I read the higher up one first.

I pulled the trigger for the first 3 days at 50 cards a day. Then dropped it back down to 20. The sooner you can get to 100-150 reviews a day the better. It sets you up for what's to come so you can get used to it.

>>143099258
You're supposed to read them at the same time.

>>143097937
I did 40 for a month or so, went fine. Although I did have a lot of time so my reading time wasn't compromised for it. If you're on a tight schedule keep it at 20 and look into starting Yotsubato with the reading pack or something.

直に
直ぐに

literally

>>143099448
>直に（じか）
>直に（じき）

FUCK

>>143098963
You're making me blush anon

>>143098399
But anon how else am i supposed to finish rtk in a month

>>143099337
Ah thanks, I'm in one of those 1% situations at the moment so I guess I'll do the top one

>>143099493
>resume (resume)
>resume (résumé)

ファック

>>143099529
You're not.

>capping at 30 cards a day
Did everyone drop core when they started mining? All decks combined I've been doing 40 to 50 new cards a day for months.
granted by months i mean two

>>143099587
Why would you mine before you finish core?
You'll just mine duplicate words.

>>143099573
I just want to finish it asap
I've finished 500 in a month but I was busy with other stuff
Now I'm free and I want to do 50 a day

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>>143099587
>dropping core
>ever
even when i'm done with it i'll never drop it, they raised me. you suck

>>143099587
I find it impossible to justify doing core at all after I've started mining. Words from core barely stick at all anymore, since the example sentence that comes with each card just can't compare to the context I get when I discover them myself.

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>>143099623
>You'll just mine duplicate words.
Deleting them takes like one mouse click.

I started reading 1 month in, I ain't gonna neglect mining just so I can focus on core dude

>>143099739
I think you misread, friend

>>143099764
I don't know, I find core's vocab more "useful" than the one I mine, and I mine everything I don't know that's not some obscure chuuni word so it's not like I make my mining deck unnecessarily hard for me or anything. I prefer core over all.
Although ever since I started using that one pro rikai dictionary for my imports my mining cards turned turbo legit.

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>>143099904
>I think you misread, friend
yeah my bad

What job prospects will I have if I learn Jap and take those tests?

>>143100008
Professional weeaboo

>>143100008
Manga translator for sadpanda bonus points

>>143100008
Major companies that want to enter the Japanese market might want you, depending on your other qualifications.
Could also move to Japan and help Japanese companies move into the international market.
Then there's the boring translator/japanese teacher in the west/english teacher in japan stuff.

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>>143098963
>>143098630
????
also I did core at 100/day up through 3k then dropped that shit cause fuck core

>>143099529
RTK is not vocabulary

>>143100155
>implying I'm not
OK, not yet, but I'm starting next semester. Should be easier than Jap because of the writing system.
>>143100008
That depends on where you live. I for one am going to translate manga because my friends owns a publishing company that focuses on comics mainly.

how many pufferfish kanji do you know
鰒
鮐
魨
鯸
鯺

>>143100314
FUCK YEAH CAPITALISM

>>143100155
t b h learning korean after japanese is dead easy
no reason not to learn both

>>143100320
i guess you are right
dont know what causes a huge distinction between these 2 though
is vocab simply harder?

>>143100360
The only non-jouyou fish I know are 鯛 and 鱈

Yeah, I fell for the Rikaisama meme and now my deck is clogged up with vague and/or subtly off mark definitions that are too ingrained to re-learn of at this point.
Is there any alternative to the default J-E dictionary that's not shit or a J-J EPWING dictionary that's not outputting walls of text where a straightforward vocab card should be?

Or is this really it?

>>143100518
>t b h learning korean after japanese is dead easy
>no reason not to learn both

You clearly haven't actually learned japanese yet. Sure you can probably get to an intermediate level easily but you could get to an intermediate level in french or spanish or german or whatever pretty easily without learning Japanese, so why haven't you done all of those?

But you aren't going to get to a high level without tons of time

>>143100545
>he fell for the "learn every word through anki" meme

>>143100582
>You clearly haven't actually learned japanese yet.
how is that relevant to what i said
learning korean after stepping up your japanese is easy is all i'm saying

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>>143100545

I like to have both the EDICT definition (rikaisama default), as it's shorter, and usually correct, as well as the Kenkyusha definition, which is longer, and more accurate, for when EDICT does not suffice.

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>>143098630
There is a dip, but this is mostly between 40 and 100 cards a day if I remember correctly.

>>143100712
That's over 15 weeks by the way
94.45% retention on young cards.

>>143100545
Read more. Anki is there for reviewing, not learning.

>>143100540
Things I can remember off the top of my head (besides those two) with * next to the ones that are important. No clue which are jouyou
鮪*
鰻*
鯔
秋刀魚*
鰊
鰹*
鮭*
鮫*
鯨*
鮎
鯵

>>143100545
You do anki to get familiar with vocab, eventually you stop needing the translation to recognize the kanji and recall its meaning.

Of course, this relies on you reading a lot.

>a J-J EPWING dictionary that's not outputting walls of text where a straightforward vocab card should be?
Some words don't have a straightforward translation, that's where the mistakes you complain about in your off mark rikai translations comes from.

>>143100545
Try the Kenkyusha EPWING dictionary.

>>143099259
how do I look at my stats for anki like this?

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>>143100740
good shit mate

heres mine, marvel at my consistency, peasants

I fucked around with anki, how do I reset muh statistics?

>>143100955
Click the three bars in the top right

>>143100979
There's a back up folder somewhere, check the anki website if you can't find it. Although I've never restored from a back up myself, not sure if you'll miss the days inbetween or what.

>>143100967
すごい先輩

今日は夏至だよ
ついに夏が来たって意味だよ
日焼けに気をつけてね

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>it's an awesome drama
I highly recommend this one, it's not Hanzawa Naoki good but still very good.

Except if you are a master of Japanese, you'll need subtitles though, unlike SoL drama

>>143101231
I didn't like Hanzawa. My favorite jdrama are Mother and Kazoku Game and I've yet to find something as good as those...

>you'll need subtitles
t. ankionlyfag

頭が痛い。
薬が欲しいです。

>>143101231
Speaking of which, how was Hanzawa season 2? It's out already, right?

I've been learning japanese for about a month, mostly kanji + some vocab + little grammar, in hopes of being able to read/understand it well enough to be able to play persona 5 when it releases, do you have any tips on what I should focus on?

>>143101550
your means of suicide

>>143101550
>little grammar
>some vocab
drop kanji, finish taekim within the next two weeks and read a lot.

>>143101550
You're not gonna learn Japanese by September.
Anyway, finish whatever grammar course you started and start reading some school life VN, because persona will have tons of school life vocab.

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僕って自然を守りたい。

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>>143101603
>って

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>>143101642
はい？

>>143101603
Gaaaaay

>>143101260
>Mother
It's on my list, I need to watch this

>>143101500
Nope, no season 2 yet. It will probably air in fucking 2017

>>143101666
Why would you do that?

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>>143101815
まったく、僕は自然を守りたい。いいのか

Flyable Heart's 天音 gave me a fashion fetish. Anyone know VNs with good fashion?

MODS = GODS

If Japanese has no future tense, what would be the best way to indicate that you will do something in the future, but at an unspecified time, such as, "I will go to the store"?

>copy paste month old posts by the hundreds each thread for days
>no action taken for weeks
>start getting politcally incorrect
>instantly removed
wow okay

>>143102788
Volitional for one, or つもり. Probably some other more heavily nuanced ways.

>>143102788
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/try

>>143102860
>つもり

That would come out something like, "I intend to go to the store," correct?

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>[Deleted]
正義を運び出した。

>>143102919
Pretty much yeah. Japanese also has a shitload of vague time terms thanks to stuff like 頃 that you just hang onto pretty much any temporal adjective, so you can use those too to state a future action while hardly specifying when it happens.

>ここで作業されると邪魔だ。他の部屋でやってくれ
Would this sentence be the same if 作業する were used? How does the meaning change because of the potential (?) form of する? I can't really wrap my head around how the usual potential form's meaning would make sense here.

>>143102540
the uk?

>>143103129
Passive form, not potential

>>143103129
する to do
される to be done

>>143103261
>>143103281
Ah right
Thanks

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>>143103353
Hey, champ! Are you here to learn some Japanese?

>>143102788
regular tense or whatever it's called does that adequately enough
買い物に出る could be anytime in the future
though you could specify you're going to do it later with 後で etc

>>143103426
白豚あまゴーホーム