Schwarzesmarken / Total Eclipse / Muv-Luv

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>>143065359
Lise route confirmed, doesn't mean Theo is joining the stasi. But if he does thats cool too.

>>143065359
I just want to protect Iris.

>>143065359
I haven't been following these threads since the anime aired, is there a new VN coming out of something?

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7xheqogpJU

>>143065640
>there a new VN coming out of something?

Yes, http://www.age-soft.co.jp/2016/06/18/ . And the butthurt when it was revealed that the LN/Anime follows the Katia-route was glorious.

>>143065720
>butthurt
where we even in the same thread
It was like every other thread

>>143065720
>And the butthurt when it was revealed that the LN/Anime follows the Katia-route was glorious.
More like weary and disappointment. I honestly feel bad for Katiafags.

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>no Gretel route

Yes I know that it had 99% of not happening but still I wanted it

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>>143065853
She sacrificed herself for the vn

>>143065720
Thanks, can't wait for Stasi route. Is there a confirmed list of all routes?

>>143065903
Iris Lise and Katia

>>143065903
Katia
Lise
Iris
Beato

>>143065751
>>143065844
On /m/ I mean.

> I honestly feel bad for Katiafags
I would as well if they hadn't become so annoying in the last month. But you are right, its quite sad that her win is getting imoutozoned.

>>143065903
Iris, Lise and Katia. Whether Kirke is getting a side story or a LN is unconfirmed, since only Machine translations are available for now.

>>143065942
Unless this is a BiS VN, there won't be a Bearoute

>>143065942
that's the spirit let keep the hope alive.

>>143065995
>not having hopes for a Beato secret route

>>143065982
>LN
It's an LN
what part of 小説 can't a machine translatorunderstand

>>143065982
>>143065844
I think route in this case translates to who's ideals get realized. Katia's route obviously sees Katia deciding the fate of East Germany, Iris would see Irisdina's whole Germanic super-power idea fall through, and Lise would have Beatrix getting her ultimate military nation.

>>143066026
No, I'm hoping for a secret BiS VN

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

>>143066112
Why not both

>>143066054
>who's ideals get realized
>Lise would have Beatrix getting her ultimate military nation.
>Not romantic hideaway in South America with Onii-chan while the DDR that destroyed their family fucks itself.

>>143065359
You have to go back.
>>>/m/14370931
>>>/jp/
>>>/vg/
>>>/out/
>>>/anywherebuthere/

>>143066315
thanks doc

>>143065982
>>On /m/ I mean.
You're so infantile and starved for drama that me making all of two posts getting mad is "glorious butthurt" to you?

>>143066242
Swapping boys would cheapen Beatrix. Her whole character revolves around Jurgen, and the insane levels of evil she does is borne out of love.

>>143066380
You weren't the only Katiafag. There was another saying how Katia is the only one whose love is pure while smack talking Lise and Beatrix.

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Reminder of happy Father's Day everyone! Be sure to give thanks to all the fathers of Muv Luv! Even if a lot of them are dead, on the run from they kids, or both.

Also, thank your father.

Unless he was also a bum.
>>143065853
There is literally nothing to her story.

She has zero interest in Theo as well, and as the VNs are from Theo's POV, there is nothing to tell in a Gretel route. Not even a short route.

No one fucking cares what the Party pov is on anything. It's a copypaste basically of what the Stasi wants, there, done.

>>143065844
I don't, the past weeks have revealed them to be evil fuckers.

>>143065359
Now now, we don't know that it's actually a Stasi route of sorts.

>>143065661

>>143066435
That's not really "glorious butthurt", more like trashtalking.

He's right too, Katia's love is pure while Lise and Beatrix's love is polluted.

>>143066380
Being drunk at the time certainly made it more enjoyable for me and might have distorted my perception of it. Sorry for any offence caused.

>>143058461
Is it me or do I have the impression that she waited a long time to get it out of her chest?

>>143066380
>being this butthurt
I reserve the right to call you butthurt, because you are. It's only fair that Katiafags get butthurt.

>>143066385
But it's not swapping, especially since Theo is -

>and the insane levels of evil she does is borne out of love

Oh right. Nice beito though.

>>143066493
>>143066525
lol

>are
I was mad, and now I'm back to weary disappointment.

>>143066450
Yes I know zero connection to Theo and that is why there is no way to include her
>There is literally nothing to her story
Wrong, there is the SED side of the story and if the party wanted the same as the Stasi, then why they launched the coup?, why remove them from power?

And yes I care, but I can always write shitty fanfiction

>>143066481

>Lise tried to kill Theo. She's a yandere, so her love inherently is selfish. Furthermore, she does not love the true Theo, but merely a mental image she has of him.

>Beatrix doesn't have a shred of good in her. She embodies the very worst aspects of mankind. Hatred and cruelty are the only things she can feel. Every breath, step, and action she takes is turned towards evil.

>Katia is the only one who loves Theo purely and unconditionally, hence why she is the Sumika of SM.

I'd like to remind you that Lise was the heroine drawn with Theo in his picture, not Katia.

>>143066481
correct opinion or should I say fact

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>>143066481

Lise's love for Theo is true love. It's not pure. It's twisted, tainted, and broken just like the rest of her, but it's absolutely sincere.

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>>143066512
Thats the right impression. Probably the first time she's had a chance to grieve for her parents since it happened.

>>143065942
>>143066112
>>143066557
https://u.pomf.is/pjbdpf.webm

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>>143066481
>Katia's love is pure

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>>143066585
The SED was who was in charge before the coup. Their policies are known. They are monsters like the Stasi, just of a different variety, and much less skilled, and on top of that, a bunch of cucks who answer to Moscow. No one cares about the Party's side of the story, save for perhaps you. They have nothing to tell besides examining how much worse they are than even the Stasi, and have had it going on for much longer.

The only change with the coup from Gretel's perspective was that she can't kill her fellow piltos remotely now, nor summarily execute them, since the Army wouldn't stand for it.

And then after Schmidt is removed, she has literally zero official rank at all.

Woo hoo, she gets shot by Axmann and GUN, and survives somehow thanks to Martin. Woo hoo, the end, nothing more to say.

You're better off writing shitty fanfiction.

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>>143066481
>Katia's love is pure

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>>143066512
A very long time. That's only a part of the rooftop scene that the anime only spent like a minute on. Granted, it was cute there too.

She only is doing it there because only Theo knows too, the guilt and pain.

>>143066980
I found her disturbingly clingy and possessive of a guy she just met. Like she felt entitled to his attention at all times, especially when Lise came back into the picture. Like a newly adopted Terrier that feels like its territory is being treaded on because the German Shepard that it was bought to replace after it went missing finally returned.

>>143067415
>You feel it too, don't you?

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>>143066980

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>Katia's love is pure

>>143066934
>You're better off writing shitty fanfiction
will do that eventually.

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>>143066934
>>143067825

>You're better off writing shitty fanfiction

You slide the thin, hanging door open and switch the light on. Gretel yelps, and turns away from the light, curling up on your broken double mattress. As her sponsor, you took the girl in when she was resettled as part of an experimental refugee program, a world away from the war and suffering in Europe. Now, it's time to help her integrate into her new community.

"Gretel, wake up! it's time for your first day of work!"

You pull a pair of black slacks off the floor along with an inexpensive blouse. Gretel crawls into the clothing and you shuffle her out the door. You step out of the trailer into the cold, never ending drizzle, and load her into your 1978 Honda Civic. You hand the girl a cup of Folgers coffee and a package of twinkies, which she eats sleepily. She finishes the coffee as you drive over interstate 5 and onto the Tulalip Indian reservation. You pull into the Quilceda shopping center, just south of the casino, and drop her off in front a large blue building. She head to the back, where she puts on a blue vest and nametag she had gotten a few days earlier while she filled out her W-2 and I-8 forms for her new employer. Finally, she heads back to the front of the building, where she begins to chant a greeting to the customers, her eyes glassing over every time she repeats her new catchprase:

"Welcome to Wal-mart! Welcome to Wal-mart!"

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>>143068162
Gretel torture is not shitty fanfiction my friend. It is good.

I'm off to work in a few minutes.

The greeters don't actually greet that much anymore, and they're actually there also to make sure you aren't stealing.

>>143068162
>implying I can get near healinganon

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>>143068162
>fanfiction

>>143068305
>not knowing healanon works

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>>143067685

>>143068344
I do know it. I also know that fanfiction leads to threads getting kicked off from the board.

At least pastebin that shit or something.

>>143068351
Sums her up.

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PAX AMERICANA

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Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart

>>143068934

>Pham will never give you a "thank you" gummy after rescuing her from the Stasi

>>143069343
>having pleb taste
What you want from Pham is for her to bite down on her lips to create a different kind of pressure.

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>>143068934
FUCKIN VIETNAM SHITS GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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mouthpussy

where were you when Muv-Luv AF became canon?

>>143071403
In the middle of replaying Haruko Maniax.

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>>143070268
Iris has some pretty good DSL, but Beatrix will always be the Mabu-Rabu queen of mouthpussy.

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where were you when Muv-Luv AF became canon?

"Originally labelled a non-canon fandisc without any relation to Muv-Luv Alternative, recent translation of the copy with Photon Melodies has retconned the non-canon existence of the game and names it as a sequel to Shirogane Takeru's adventures in Alternative. "

>>143071427
i fucked up my post.

>>143071431
So why is a "bereaved" widow so sexual anyways?

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>>143071431
Irisdina's lips switch from "I want to fuck that" to resting bitch face often.

>>143071958
Martyrs better have more cockpit CG shots, especially of Beatrix and Iris.

>>143071946

Because bereaved or not every fiber of her being drips sensuality. She's learned to control it, master it, in order to help make Jürgen's dream a reality.

When will they be releasing "White Forces." I want to be disappointed by Fripside again.

>>143072784

The single has been out for a while now.

>>143072495
Yeah, I also thinks she just likes to make other people feel uncomfortably turned on, kind of like how her voice got more husky and breathless then a telephone sex operator when she was intimidating Theo. She wants people do get fearboners and be off balanced for trolling purposes, not just because it serves her well.

It'd be kind of funny imagining her trying to use these techniques on Jurgen though. I don't think it'd work quite the way she wants.>>143072867

>>143072867
Are there any links for it then?

>>143072934

First page of google has like two live sites with links, even without using quotes in the search.

Seriously, it's been out since February.

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>>143073240
Oh, I seemed to have mistyped. I meant the Martyrs' OP, "White Relation", not the anime's.

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Why is Beatrix's signature so cutesy and girlish? I'd expect Katia, but Beatrix?

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>>143073938
Thats adorable. Where did you get this from

>>143073938
I could imagine her signing papers like that just to piss off Schmidt or the KGB oversight.

>>143074219
That would be funny.

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>>143073938
She's kind of an immature person at heart.

>>143073938
why is it a penis?

>>143073938
She really should've just been a happy-go-lucky beerhall girl.

>>143074109
Twitter

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>>143074428
Twitter? It's from a pixiv set.

>>143074516
Didn't know.

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>>143072934

I think it would be genuinely funny to watch fearboner Beatrix try and give a blowjob for the first time. After pulling out at all the stops, when push comes so shove, she's using too much teeth, her jaw is cramping, she's choking on her own spit, dry heaving uncontrollably every time she attempts to deepthroat, and eventually, with the dick in front of her half flaccid from boredom and disappointment, she tearfully has to give up.

And then, Walther pats her on the head, dries the tears in her eyes, and solemnly promises he won't tell anyone, before asking if she'd please release him and the rest of the 666th from confinement, and assures her that they don't know anything about any rebel plots.

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>>143074516
You didn't even save the fullsize one anon.

>>143074516
>master1200

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>>143074618
>Beatrix and Walther

>Stasi route confirmed

I'm sorry, I've been gone for a few days because the Chinese.

What did I miss here?

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>>143074908
Martyrs got its release date for September 30th. Routes confirmed. Kirke butt piracy spin off.

>>143075012
Praise be.There may be hope yet.

>>143074628
Something else went fullsize.

>>143075087
>hope
Don't be hasty now, but what is it you're hopeful for

>>143074628
>>143074516
>liebe
>love

Not exactly something you associate with Brehme.

>>143074835

>Not trying it out on Walther first because he's safe

>>143075012
>>143075263
Yeah, I still see Theo fighting Beatrix in the background and his knife looks very, very sharp.

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>>143075414
>his knife looks very, very sharp.
That's good

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>>143075414
Not every route could end with BeavsTheo, in fact it'd make more sense for the Iris route to be BeavsIris since her circumstances would probably be different by that point unless the only change between her's and Katia's is who gets shot by Axmann. And who knows how the Lise route is gonna go, that one is the real wild card.

>>143075012
>using an underhand grip
>in a mecha knife fight

Why?

Did Jurgen teach her to do that or something because that's retarded.

>>143075845
>"no no Bea you gotta hold it like this, reverse grip, its so much cooler. And never NEVER forget to end your opponent with an awesome finishing move, like that plunging attack I showed you. Hit it right and you'll cut straight into your opponent's cockpit with the weight of the entire MiG coming down for maximum penetration. You get that? Maximum penetration Bea. Maximum."

Trust him, he's a professional.

>>143066603
Which is true.
Yes, and?

>>143067432
You read way too much into things.

>>143076206
Theo's fight with Beatrix was just a metaphor for sex anyways.

>>143076650
>love is a battlefield

>>143076650
>>143076744
Love can bloom even on the battlefield?

>>143076819
RIP in pieces, Sniper Wolf.

;_;7

Is there a Pham route?

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>>143076848
GIVE IT BACK

THAT WAS OURS

>>143077211
No, sorry

Why are the flightsuits so gay?

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>143078168
This is BAIT. No (You) for you.

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>>143078168

What

>>143078331
>no sage
almost as big a bait as his

>>143078364
>not understanding how sage is used
kek

I really want to punch Gretel in the face

>>143078574
good lad

>>143078407
>kek
epic meme andrew. stop bumping the thread with inane shit that doesn't add anything to the discussion.

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>>143078355
Does she even have any skintight suit CG's?

>>143078686
Yeah.

>>143078600
>implying bait and mentioning sage aren't also inane shit that don't add to the discussion
Anon pls.

>>143078574

I forced Gretel to wait for me crying behind a chain link fence while i stood in the driveway and made casual conversation with the people who drove me home from the bar where I watched game seven

>>143078705
Post it

>>143078819
You just posted it here >>143078686

Will there be more Iris bullying?
I want it.

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>>143078865
Fuck me. I thought that was cleaned LN art?

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>>143078911
Bullying the office christmas cakes?

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>>143078969
>Bullying in the work place
>Bullying christmas cakes
>69

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>>143079136
It's all good since HR is a meme occupation.

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>>143078969
>>143079136
>>143079258
Don't worry, they'll bully each other.

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>>143078918

You can download all the CGs from sadpanda

also, SM waifu power rankings

1) Lise
2) Bea
3) Pham
4) Circe
5) Inghild
6) Irisdina
7) Vivi
8) Annett
9) Mirai/Mariah
10) Katia
11) Gretel


Sylwia has been removed from consideration because she can only be paired with Walther, and Walther can only be paired with Sylwia. Jurgen and Marco don't get that consideration because they're dead and bereaved widows deserve a second shot at love.

Suzy is only good as a blinded, muted, quadruple amputee fuckhole. Just like her brother Heinz

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>>143079372
Exactly the order I would choose. Good taste.

>>143079372
>Gretel below cockroach
Other than that I agree.

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>>143079534
>>143079372

>>143079582
>nips not having shit taste for once
HOLY FUCK

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>>143079582
Vivi and Kouki skewed that poll.

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>>143079534

technically Gretel shoukld ahve been removed a'la Sylwia but Martin being alive is enough of an out-of-left-field asspull I forgot it happened until i composed this reply.

Cucking husbandos is bad unless it's Theo, who has branching paths so it doesn't really count. He can make like a newspaper and crush cockroach if nothing else works.

>>143079582
Even if it's a troll option, it's nice to see that Vivi is getting some appreciation.

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I want to hold hands with Inghild and stare in her eyes until she blushes
>inb4 Anette bullying

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I want to do something terrible to these braids.

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>>143080171
Like what?

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>>143079582
>That Vivi
Everytime.

>>143079851
I want a little more Inghild content. Maybe a date with her boyfriend or relaxing afternoon with Anette and Pham. Or buy her a pair of blue striped ribbons to wear, jump out and surprise Theo.

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>Also very important in the Schwarzesmarken story is our little Katia Waldheim. She is extremely idealistic, hardworking and adored by the maintenance crew. She was a former member of the West Army but after being rescued by the 666th Sq. she soon transfers and becomes a part of Irisdina's team. She has a natural talent and good instinct when it comes to piloting the TSF. She does seem like that overly perfect character that annoys you from time to time, but she is not. Besides, her background is very interesting and she is the most intriguing character of the anime so...

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>>143080378
>She has a natural talent and good instinct when it comes to piloting the TSF.

>>143079851

I know, right? even if I got a post-grappler Inghild, I'd happily sponge-bathe her and change her colostomy bag, just for those quiet evenings together.

>>143080350
Cumming on them while she sleeps or pulling them just to annoy her.

>>143080412
But she does?
Everyone is impressed in the VN/LN

>143080365
>you will never touch those drills

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>>143080365
Vivi's cute because it doesn't come out as forced like Katia.

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>>143080420
She got rid of them to prevent ruffians like you from achieving anything.

>>143080621
How did I screw that up? Stupid backspace.

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>>143080659
She's also actually useful and badass in spite of her being younger then Katia.

>>143080705
shes also dead

>>143080673
How thoughtless of her. Doesn't she care for the morale of her troops?

>>143080659
>>143080705
Vivi's got a good sense of humor too

>>143080701
Its okay anon I felt the (you) in my heart.

Suzy is for rape and mindbreak

>>143080816
Make it hurt.

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>>143080729
>tackles Katia away from some BATERs earlier
>Katia freezes up when she needs to be saved
>gets chomped

If she wasn't there, Katia would be ded. She died protecting Katia.

>>143080857
I want to abuse her until she's nice and friendly as a coping mechanism

Would Lise be a sub or a dom in bed?

>>143080816
>>143080857

Cut off her arms and legs, snip her vocal chords, yank out her teeth, and shine a laser in her eyes until she's functionally blind, then leave her in a playpen in the men's showers.

>>143080881
>gets chomped
you mean coup de grace'd
How unsightly

>>143081007
Natural sub, can dom if desired.

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Headpatting Beatrix

>>143081160
I've been strongly tempted to do this, but I don't like the idea of my offending hand getting sliced off.

>>143081160
>headshotting Beatrix
ftfy

>>143081160
Hugging Beatrix from behind!

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>>143081160

I want to toussel her hair and tell her she's a good girl who deserves to be loved.

>invite Iris and Beatrix to the same party
>lock all the doors and bolt all the windows so they'd stay together
>make sure they don't kill each other
Is this bullying?

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>>14375820
>Well, here's what the guy who translated SM into Chinese had to say. It's kind of a hard read, since he sucks at English, but it gets the Asian audience sentiments across.

>On Lise:

>Well, Lise is a complex character.When I was translating her own story,I felt something strange.See from Theo she was in an evil force,so she was of evil;but see from herself,she was great and with a strong heart,everyone who was in her place would do like her,yeah,what she had done was right and rational.

>As a matter of fact,in China,many fans paid attention to her.Not because of the forced slut,but also for she was different from other chatacters. In all muv-luv series maybe she was the only character who was mostly like a real person.

>On Beatrix:

>I am not sure if Beatrix liked darkness,but I am sure that Beatrix chose a way of evil because it was necessary. I believe that she had to chose a way of evil but never sank in evil.

>Before the last fight with Theo, Beatrix was in her hangar. In the light novel, it wrote "To join the STASI, to command the Werewolves, to connect with the United Nations with this position, all of these are just methods to realize a dream"

>Maybe she was full of evil, but at least there was still a place for her ideal, she knew what she want.Just like a man likes drinking wine but he never get drunk.

>Of course,still I have a question too,she looked much more pure when Juergen was alive,much more different with her in 1983.So there must be some large events when Juergen was still alive.

>There's also the anicobin poll asking if Beatrix plan to fully mobilize the DDR and allow the UN into East Germany was right. 55% of those surveyed apparently agreed with Beatrix.

>LN/VN readers also visit /a/ quite a lot. I know Genya is confirmed to lurk and Kuki (クーキ over on Pixiv) is a huge fan of Healanon's works. There's a few others, enough where they've actually had conversation in Jap/Chink over on /a/ at times.

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>>143081741
Yes, but eventually they'd run out of topics of conversation which don't involve their past. Thus leading to reconciliation, or Catfight.

Either way, you'd end up with the adult version of pic related eventually.

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>>143081741

only until the cunnilingus starts.

but in all seriousness, they still love each other, Jurgen's death was mostly outside of their combined control, and they need to settle their accounts with one another if they ever want to move on from that.

Getting dominated by "ara ara" Werewolves would be great.

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>>143082055
But which Werewolves go "ara ara" Anon?

>>143082055
When Martyrs comes out you just might get your wish.

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What is Katia good for other than bullying?

>>143081160
>someone actually saved my screenshot

Feels good. One frame, looked too prefect.

>>143081582
That's it. That's the way anon. You know how to take care of your woman.

>>143082289

sucking dick.

Gretel must pout.

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>>143081858
Wait, just how many chinks and nips lurk among us burgers and bongo bongo landers and other assorted trash of the world?

What if Kouki lurks here?

>>143080816
who?

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>>143081858
>>143083014

Kuki / クーキis the artist who drew this picture (and a lot of other great Lise pictures) and I knew he liked my work but I am chuffed to get a mention.

This picture especially, since it's based on part of my story.

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Lise is for loving.

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>>143083599
Everyday and night.

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>>143083599

agreed

Laughing at Irisdina's bad jokes to make her feel better

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>tfw no Martyrs Tito route

Has altered fable been fully translated yet?

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>>143084589

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>>143084317

if i had to do it all over again, I'd make Iris end up with healingprotag since Lise and Theo are an OTP. Lise > me. and Irisdina's jokes are adorable. oh well.

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>>143083366
>tfw you wanna write not just for the burgers, or even the bongos, but for all
>tfw you will not get noticed by them

Even the meta is suffering.

>>143084969
>Anette
WHAT A SLUT

>>143084969

I made a conscious effort to de-localize my story and yet it was still hella American, so I decided to put my best face forward and present a sort of idealized meta-america where I still presented american institutions and attitudes but in terms such that a future american could still understand them.

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>>143085136

doodle try again I really like this one.

I want to mindrape Katia into becoming next Hitler

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>>143084699
Well Lise>Theo too. I like the way it turned out.

>>143085127
Ditz is the word you're looking for anon. She's a ditz she can't help it if her lewd body entices you, its not intentional. No slutty thoughts were made that lead to her behavior thats just the way she is.

>>143085288
Nice stretching effect on that one. Now if we can get that for the other ladies.

>>143085136

I noticed the use of kilometers was a big thing in your stories, made me wonder if you were Canadian or something. I made a similar decision in DTHE and later installments but for different reasons, mainly because the main human-descended space nations that formed up after Space War One in DT (like the United Nations, FPA, and Britannians) standardized on metric measurements in-universe, at least for the most part.

Maybe I'll write up some short tidbits to entertain the folks here later. Maybe not. Depends.

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>tfw want to headpat Sylwia
>tfw she'd just break my arm before I'd even touch her
I envy Walther in a good way.

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>>143086151

makes me think that Walther is the self-insert character in SM

>I'm a competent pilot
>This girl is adorable, she needs to find someone who can love her until she learns to loves herself
>She's too broken to find another person who can do that
>Well, I better love her until she learns how to love herself

Anyone who wouldn't drop everything for Sylwia should be disqualified from being human.

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>>143085195
It's a toss up for me between the old one and this one. Her eyes werent crazy last time, but I think you got her sad expression across better this time. Like, it turned from sad to a deeper sort of despair.

I like to think I can sense my waifu and her feelings.

I'm trying to find something to get my Beatrix-turned-Cui sketch on here, we don't have a modern scanner.

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>>143086527

In case you can't tell, I'm photographing my drawrings with a Galaxy S7. no scanner involved, this is all by hand.

>>143086624

Uh, spoiler function failure man.

>>143086624
Well my phone's camera is shot to shit. Wouldn't end well. I'll try though.

>>143084699
Wonder how a Theo x Lise healfic would have turned out.

>>143084699
>>143086957

That's sort of the beauty of fanfic, you can always write a different version of what's already been done, go full alternate universe and all that. I've done it plenty of times myself, with usually positive results. Usually. Doing a remake of an existing work does risk the '90s Geocities curse (this sort of dates my experiences with fanfic in general), but risks like that are part of writing in general, and from what I've seen, I'm convinced that if healanon wanted to do it, he could.

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>>143071460
WHAT?!

>>143087223
Looking pretty soldier-kun there, cockroach

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>>143086957

I mean like, iris would be sluttier and less damaged, but Lise would get her deepest, darkest wishes fulfilled. It's easier for everyone, but I wanted to heal Lise myself because she's the best.

>>143079728
I want to hit Katia's nose with a newspaper.

Irisdina is not cute, attractive or funny.

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>>143087356
I knew you would come brazil-kun

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>>143087356
Irisdina is Cute, attractive, and funny, and if I'm wrong, I'll marry her and we'll crank out children until her uterus is hanging between her knees.

How do we fix Katia?
>inb4 a trip to the funhaus

>>143087495
I'd keep giving Iris twins

>>143087527
I'd touch her twins.

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>>143087516

Katia isn't like Lise. she has nothing to hold on to, nothing to save. She's not going to break just because somebody rapes her, she's not going to break just because a Stasi motorized rifle company fucked her in all three holes until she was a fucked-out, shuddering mess. no, she's going to take any dick, any amount of torture, and it is going to mean nothing to her except some indescribable, un-articulable pain, because Matia has no secrets to tell, and nobody to betray. She's Alfred Strachwitze's daughter? so what? Alfred, Jurgen, and all their friends have been murdered. There is no utility in possessing Strachwitz's daughter. She has no value unto herself.

So what will inevitably happen is she'll take every cock Axmann can point at her, and smile, happily, and ask politely for more. Katia has no weaknesses. Like Lise, she has no regard for herself or her own suffering. Unlike Lise, she has no living person that she must protect at all costs. And so she'll subsist, so she'll thrive, despite any pain or depravity the stasi could possibly think up.

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>>143087516
Okay fine, a brief visit to the funhaus?

On the other side of the glass.

>>143087709

I want to shove fifteen lacross balls slathered in coconut oil up Katia's butt.

I want to "compliment" Iris by comparing her to Lucifer, and get kneed in the stomach when she understands it.

>>143087709
I wonder what Katia with Axmann's personality traits would be like.

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>>143088072

so you want her to become a shitskin?

I mean like,

Muhammed is the demon Baphomet
Allah is the devil Bhaajl
on Ramadan, Muslims circle the Kabbah and worship relics of Lucifer, the fallen star.

I have pretty low standards but I would never let my bitterest enemy be handled by a muslim.

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Cute Lise
Adorable Lise

>>143088292
Ded Lise

>>143088004
You think she can fit them all?

>>143088103
She already has them in a way.

Just bring Stasi Katia into the room where Iris is being interrogated, and tell her Iris really is trying to secude Theo and lock her out. She'll do things to Iris that would make Beatrix blanche.

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>>143088305
Always alive in my heart.

>>143088350
That's the best you can hope for.

>>143088350

I mean like, fuck. I just want to hug Lise and hold on to her until everything is OK again.

>>143088380
I want to rub her golden hair so much and be careful enough not to mess up the ribbons.

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>>143087545
Supple and well-shaped.

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>started watching muvluv 2 days ago on a whim not knowing anything about it
>expected some generic space mecha with high school girls judging from the first episode
>instead got R&D, racism, pseudo jets and terrorism

I don't remember when was the last time I was so surprised by a show.

Also that authentic Su 37 Russian airforce pattern was giving me a boner

>>143089197
Go play the VNs, you won't regret it.

This franchise seems pretty good for /k/ommandos, doesn't it.

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>>143089292
It's good for anyone.

>>143089292
I thought most /k/ommandos had a acute mech allergy.

>>143089336
Agreed there.

>>143089363
Huh, maybe they do, but I figured ML has enough military hardware featured in general that /k/ommandos might get into it. I dunno, maybe I'm off base about that.

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>当然是因为智障女主掌握政权了，而且整个东德的人还都相信一个智障。

>calling Katia mentally handicapped and the East Germans a bunch of retards

Simply unacceptable! Why are Katiahaters so mean?

>>143089479
Based chinamen joining in the bullying, they are truly our brothers.

>>143089479
because it true. imagine Soviet rebelling during their war with Germany in WW2. And in SM it even worse since they are fighting aliens.

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>>143089197
Welcome to the club, comrade.

You're on the roller coaster now. There is no getting off this ride you know.

The ride never ends.

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>>143089336

every single girl in SM would benefit both intellectually and materially from swallowing a redpill.

>communism is a lie!
>I can use communism to make stupid people die instead of me

>>143089704
>Theo will never be the quintessential American on the show
>he will never OC a .44 Magnum and call anyone who questions him about it a "fuckin pinko commie"

>>143089479
>你看过小说吗，最后人全死完了，东方总军全灭，东德500战术机几乎全灭，三个绝对防御要塞基地被推平，西方总军重创（本来就不是对BETA的部队），狼人大队领袖死了其他人跑了，666死的就剩2个半人了（死的全是厉害的），在这种情况下东德还能再守半年才灭亡，这都是卡蒂娅外界政策做得好
Did you read the same novel as us, the Eastern army was destroyed, 500 tactical machines almost completely lost, three absolute defense fortresses destroyed, the Western theater forces hit, the Werewolf brigade executed or scattered, only 2 and a half people left in the 666th, and the GDR could only hold out for less then a year, and this was well outside of Katia's abilities to control.

>我认为黑标想表达的主题之一就是 只要人类联手就能打败BETA。卡蒂娅一直想完成父亲的心愿让东西德联手对抗BETA，只有联手才能打败BETA这是大家心理都明白的一个很简单的道理，但是就是做不到。东德这么好的防御地形，只要欧洲多派点兵过来帮忙守 再守个几年甚至几十年不成问题
I think one of the themes of Schwarzesmarken [Black Label] is that if humans join together that they'll be able to defeat the BETA. Katia had always wanted to complete her father's dream of a unified East and West Germany fighting against the BETA. It seems like such a simple truth, but they can't just do it. East Germany has such good defensive terrain that as long as Europe keeps sending soldiers to come they can hold the line for for a couple more years or even decades easily.

>但是这样的话，美国和苏联就不开心了，他们不想看到欧洲那么联合，史塔西其实是苏联和美国暗中控制的。军二代妹子都说了西德也想派兵帮东德，但是东德不接受，东德的绝对防御是厉害，但是和欧洲联合军比起来火力物力差的不是一点半点（参考海王星战役提子视角）
But then, the Soviet Union and United States did not want to see a united European Union, and controlled the stasi in secret. West Germany wanted to send troops to help the East, but East Germany refused. GDR absolute defense line is powerful, but is still nothing compared to the material and firepower of the Allied forces (refer to the battle of Neptune)

>卡蒂娅最后实现了父亲的愿望，但是那时东德早就被 败光了，在这种情况下联合欧洲帮忙守，守了将近半年（黑标小说开始到爱姐死才3个月）
Katia finally realized her father's wishes, but East Germany was already a lost cause, and United Europe could only hold on for 6 months (Schwarzesmarken's epilogue begins just 3 months after Iris dies).

>>143090059

>萝莉在政府里只是个与西德谈判的好伐……政府里的总理是海姆。
Loli (Katia) is just used as a negotiator between the Western government and... Prime Minister Heim.

So yeah, they have the same talking points that we do, and the same waifu faggotry. The response to the above was that they could have held out longer under Beatrix's plan of mass mobilization and allowing Western forces to occupy the DDR instead of evacuating. Actually, the Katiafags over there are way better at defending their waifu then the ones over here.

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>>143090059

somebody was right about EVERYTHING and it wasn't cockroach

>>143090124
I want to rape her.

>>143090135
Good luck with that, anon. She'll probably be the one pegging you instead.

>>143090155
Either way I win.

>>143090155
If you peg your enemies, they win.

Convincing young Iris and Beatrix to go for a swim in the river, then stealing their clothes while they're not looking!

>>143090303
>not cumming in their clothes with Jurgen
git gud

>>143090212

Correct. Justin Trudeau is only satisfied if Alberta is getting fucked in the ass.

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>>143090332
Like Father, like son.

Just like how Jurgen's Father couldn't hold a relationship together, neither could Jurgen.

>>143090124

东德人民迎来了最黑暗的时代。东德最终扛到90年代，为人类做出了巨大的贡献。

The general consensus is that a Beatrix victory would usher in dark times for East Germany but would be better for mankind. An East Germany ruled by Beatrix would be able to hold the line well into the 90's.

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So Beatrix was in the end right all along?

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>>143090579
So according to Chinkfics, all Beatrix had to do to win Theo was give him a boob to cry on:

「是啊太好了，提奥」 贝拉特里克丝抱住痛哭的提奥多尔，这样轻声的对他说。

then cook for him:

「对了提奥今天的晚饭由我来做，有什么想吃的吗？」 回去的路上，贝拉特里克丝这么对提奥多尔说道。
「一切都由少校您决定」
「又说这样的话，提奥你可以任性一点提一些要求也行哦」
「您做的什么都好，少校」
「哦呀，提奥越来越会说好话了呢」
「您过奖了，少校。」

He does a 180 from complete hatred to grudging like.

He still doesn't like her ideals, as he sees himself as being one of the many victims of it, and still kind of blames her for his parent's dying though.

>>143090890
Nobody was right. Everyone's ideals has tradeoffs and compromises. Even Katia's which attempted to have neither.

Do you guys have any hopes on the Muv-luv VR?

>>143091160
B-but their country would've stood a chance if Beatrix united them.

>>143091470
I think it was just a small marketing gimmick and there are no further plans.

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>>143090093
Well that's cause our Katiafags are literal retards.

>>143090124
We always knew she was right though.

>>143090943
Look, I like you guy, but you seriously need to provide translations, even machine translations, if you're gonna post moonrunes of story stuff.

That said, I already said a few threads back if there's a Beato route, there will probably be Beatrix giving her mammaries for PUNISHED THEO to cry into. Which would be nice.

>>143091798
They must progress it even further. I want to shoot BETAs in the face. Exceed takeru's kill count.

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Okay, so riddle me this /a/nons.

Germany is mostly a coffee drinking country, has been for a long time now. Beatrix got her tea habit from Irisdina. Where did Irisdina pick it up from?

The only super tea drinkers in Germany are the Frisians, nearly complete opposite end of the country.

EALA FRYA FRESENA

>>143092159
USSR

>>143092312
This
Everyone in USSR/CIS are hardcore teafags
Even if they like coffee

>>143092312
Oh shit, you're right! I completely forgot about the Russkies. Sposibo, comrade. One more example of East Germany getting cucked I guess.

>>143091920
I don't even think the VR project is run by age though.

>>143092725
Literally nothing wrong with drinking tea

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>>143092725
>One more example of East Germany getting cucked I guess
dumb cuckposter

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>>143092786
Well yeah, I never said there was.

I drink so much every goddamn day.

>>143089336
Why do they wanna make Beatrix look like a nazi if she was actually the polar opposite of that?

>>143093419
Nazism is sexier than generic totalitarianism.

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>>143089197
So now that you watched TE, tell us - who was your favorite guy? Favorite grill?

How did you like the Yui-Yuuya interplay?

Anything struck you as odd or unanswered?

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>>143089704
Why is everyone so lewd in those school uniforms?

>>143093648
Not him, but I started to watch it recently too so
>Best guy
I'd say it's Yuuya's maintenance guy
>favorite grill
Yui
>How did you like the Yui-Yuuya interplay?
Autism
>Anything struck you as odd or unanswered?
Why do you use a guy who's trained to operate completely different TSFs in completely different way as test pilot for your country new toys?
Like, use Yui as a test pilot, or any other nip.

>>143065359
Is there any Muv luv with happy ending?

>>143094405
Extra? Altered Fable? Haruko Maniax?

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>>143094394
Well it's a multi answer. Part of it is that it's a joint US-Japan project, primarily by Borning. The team head is Heiniman, the old guy, and Yuuya was picked for this and a variety of factors, but Yuuya is one of the top test pilots in the US, he helped with the Raptors development. Part of why they didn't use a Japanese test pilot was the front lines are in Japan, every pilot is needed. Even sending Yui out is unusual. Throw in IJA-IRG shenanigans, and it becomes a clusterfuck.

There's other reasons too, but telling those would be spoilers.

Actually though, gotta sleep.

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>>143093648
Hmm I guess I liked Ibraim the best. Vincent and VG were basically interchangeable. Yuuya was exactly as you'd expect him to be.

Favorite girl was Yui with Cryska being really close second. I kinda wish the focus was more on Yui rather than Yuuya.

As far as plot goes I don't really know if me not getting something was because I was not familiar with the source material or they've just omitted a lot of stuff.
Half the time I wasn't sure who's is on who side and why they are even fighting and backstabbing each other.
Also I know Russian, so it was kinda hard for me to Ignore the absolutely made up Russian names. Ina was fine but what the hell is Fikatsia or Cryska. Cristina is more fitting and I can't even decipher the other one. Idar is actually Idol.
Also their entire Polnoye Zatmeniye plan was kinda vague and barely talked about, which is weird, seeing how the show is literally named after it.

>>143093419
Beatrix is a nazi, just without the racism, expansionism, nationalism, or genocide.

>>143095216
The good guys lost WW2.

>>143092312
I want to tease her by calling her a Soviet rapebaby.

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>>143095412
That's a bad joke. Almost makes we wonder who could possibly make it.

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>>143091872

>「是啊太好了，提奥」 贝拉特里克丝抱住痛哭的提奥多尔，这样轻声的对他说。

"Yes, Theo, it'll be alright" Beatrix cooed softly as she hugged the crying Theo.

>「对了提奥今天的晚饭由我来做，有什么想吃的吗？」 回去的路上，贝拉特里克丝这么对提奥多尔说道。
>「一切都由少校您决定」
>「又说这样的话，提奥你可以任性一点提一些要求也行哦」
>「您做的什么都好，少校」
>「哦呀，提奥越来越会说好话了呢」
>「您过奖了，少校。」

"Looks like Theo's dinner tonight is up to me, what do you want to eat?" Beatrix asked on the way back.
"You decide everything, Major."
"If you say so; don't be afraid to mention even a small request ~ara"
"Anything you make is good, Major."
"Ara~ara, Theo should say more good things about me."
"You flatter me, Major"

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>>143095762
Seems more like a Pham interaction then a Beatrix interaction.

>>143096387
Pham-nee doesn't cook, does she?

>>143089479
>Why are Katiahaters so mean?

>>143088359
>>143088305
>>143081047
>>143080729
Well why are Katiafags so mean?

How much of a tease can Irisdina be?

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>>143096868
Incalculable. You're talking about a women who promised to tell a man her true feelings and then dies.

>>143096516
Does Beatrix cook?

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>>143096966
Yes.

>>143096387
Beato has some spare ara aras saved up for her boy toys

I wonder what Werewolf Iris would be like.

>>143097364
Werewolf Iris wouldn't have the support she found in people like Walter, Otto, Heim and Holzer to pick up the fractured pieces of her soul after losing her brother, so she'd basically be another Beatrix, just dead serious instead of a troll (which might make her even more dangerous).

>>143097039
That's really cute. You think adult Beatrix still cooks?

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>>143097628
Sometimes she makes the Werewolves something nice after a successful operation, a little something to show her appreciation. Or just some comfort food if one of them is having a PTSD meltdown, funhaus flashbacks, depression, that sort of thing.

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>>143073938
Only an inhumane monster would do something like that!
Just kidding, it's adorable as hell

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>>143073938
>xoxo
Sounds like waifu material to me.

Katerina is for bullying.

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>>143097982

>>143073938
Imagine asking Beatrix to make a tattoo on your spine.
I wonder how much fun she'd have with that and how everyone would laugh behind your back.

>>143098224
>you will never be bullied by a pack of wolves

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>>143098224
>>143098477
>>143097863
>>143097848
>>143097039
>>143095762

Werewolves? More like cute wolves!

>>143098554
>adult Lise with loli Lise hair
I don't know how to react to that.

>>143098554
Yeah they're all cute but who was Bea's favorite?

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>>143098657
She's got longer hair there its just beneath the blanket. Also looks like one of those nights she spent crying for Onii-chan to save her ;_;

>>143098955
Theo dropped Lise faster then she drops her knickers for high ranking state officials.

>>143098955
I want to hold loli Lise in my arms

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>>143099197

>>143099267
It's true though. He's known Lise for at least 5 years and he abandons her after just 5 weeks with Iris and Katia.

How do you bully Gretel?

>>143099344
And he's a rotten Onii-chan for it, what about it?