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PTSD FLASHBACKS

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PTSD FLASHBACKS
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REPLACED
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>>143036527

As far as Future Trunks is concerned, our Goku died when Cell blew up. His reaction was more rational than impulsive; he had no reason to believe that Goku was anyone but Black.
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>>143036670
It's kind of visually implied that his PTSD was triggered though
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>>143036527
not gonna lie, im hyped as fuck
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too bad base trunks is nothing compared to base Goku
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WE NEED GIFS OF BASED BLACKED GOKU
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I vaguely remember Future Trunks being way more buff.
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>>143036825
No big deal, Goku can still be surprised.
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>>143037523
Once upon a time Goku was also buff Anon.
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>>143037523
starving on animal food and some canned meat is bad for gains apparently
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>>143038312
Why Blackaroto is levitating a donnut?
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>>143036527

NTR
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>>143036527
So, why is his hair suddenly blue?
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>>143036670
so either A) he is from a different time line where he didn't go back to fight with them or
B) it's just ptsd and he comes to his senses early next episdoe
he can't just forget.
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>>143039201
probably to make a distinction between the timelines, I guess? or maybe the hair color changes with age.
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Use the catalog >>143036797
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>>143037532
He was and stopped like it was whatever didn't even changed his expression. If you were refering to that moment
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>>143040305
Even Bulma said to young Trunks if the person inside the capsule is a young man with "blue hair"
Purple hair future Trunks has been rectoned, deal with it.
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>>143036527
Why is his hair blue now
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>>143040342

Honestly I really like the theory that Black is Goten, rather than Goku, but the timeline would require some fuckery to make it work.
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>>143040476
Then why is kid trunks' hair purple
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yfw Black Goku is Professor Zoom, a mad genius from the future who got obsessed with Goku he replicated his god-like power and is able to morph his body into anything (because of the clouds)
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>>143040342
The most logical thing is for him to be Goten desu.
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>>143040603
I like it too, best friends in other timeline and enemies at the other add a lot to the drama.
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>>143039294
A is incorrect because it was already established that this is the same Future Trunks from the Cell arc.
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Are Future Trunks memories flashbacks or flash forwards?
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>>143039294
>>143040813
Super being poorly written as is I wouldn't put it past them to have Trunks autistically blame present Goku.
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BG being Goten is literally the only explanation that makes some sense and wouldn't be a huge badly-written asspull.

So there's 0% chance of it being true. I can already tell his true identity is going to be complete bullshit.
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>>143040342
>>143040603
>>143040629
Goten was concieved after Goku had his heart attack though. That's when he died in Trunks' timeline

Meaning It's impossible for him to be Goten, the only way he might be related to Goku is if he's a kid Gohan had shortly after Goku's death he didn't know about.
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Does Goten have any personality outside of being Goku's second son he conceived before the Cell Games?
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>>143041115
We established in the previous arc that no two universes are exactly the same. Even the main universe's sister universe had an Earth that was completely destroyed by the current time. Something as small as "time of conception" in the grand scheme is nitpicking.

Whose to say that something as small as Future Trunks' arrival and warning of the androids wasn't more than enough to push back Goten's originally planned conception.
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>>143041181
He was meant to be more, but editor shenanigans pushed him to the side to make way for Goku to return in the Buu arc, I believe.
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>>143041269
Then where the fuck was he when Gohan and Trunks were off defending Earth? Where was he when Chichi was old and senile?
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>>143041090
>6 universes being destroyed gets mentioned
>Suddenly Black Goku
Chekhov's gun.
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>>143041310
The earrings that Black is wearing are commonly associated with kais throughout the series.

That would imply he's had some kind of interaction with them, which is all but confirmed seeing how prominent this never seen before kai is presented in the new OP.

If he was kidnapped by a Kai at birth during the chaos of #17 and #18's rampage a lot of unexplained things would come to make sense.

>Why is he so much more powerful than Trunks? He was trained by gods.
>How could Goku come back to life in a timeline in which the topic of Dragon balls has always been avoided despite tons of mass death? He's not Goku and he never died.
>Where has he been all this time, and why did he just show up now? He's been in training.
>Why is his name something as simple as "Black"? If he was taken as a child he would never know his birth name or his heritage, which would also explain why he refers to Trunks as "Saiyan", as if it doesn't include him.

To be honest, most likely they're just going to go with "Black is Goku who was resurrected and being mind controlled by a Kai", but the Goten theory works fine.
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If toriyama is doing a mithology gag (mai) and beerus is always after the strongests people of the world, Why hasnt we met Arale again?
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>da black goku is now canon
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>>143039366
I made this thread ten minutes earlier you daft piece of shit. Look at the posting times
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>>143041559
we did though, a couple episodes ago
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>>143041559

Arale showed up in a filler episode just a few weeks ago where Goku lost control of his powers and started teleporting to random people around the world.

Please don't skip half the series and then ask "why did this thing that totally happened not happen yet".
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>Goku Black actually reels back from Trunk's masenko and has to dodge his sword, meaning that those attacks pose some kind of threat to him
>Teleports to place where Beerus and Whis are

I hope this is just a troll arc that lasts 3 episodes due to the main villain being gibbed right as he appears by god-level opponents

Otherwise why would Mai be so prominent in the OP when she dies in the first fucking episode
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>>143041547
>most likely they're just going to go with "Black is Goku who was resurrected and being mind controlled by a Kai"
Last week anons were claiming Black's dark ki was part of the mind control but it was just to show Black is evil.

I think Toriyama will go for the simple route and give the fans what they have been asking for years, an evil AU Goku. Not controlled or Goten
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>>143036527
> Mai is particularly grateful, and even holds Trunks by the hand, scandalizing Pilaf and Shu.

TORIYAMA!!!!
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>>143041115
It would also be impossible for mai to be there then because she would be ancient by this point of not for that wish on the dragon balls done during the whole beerus thing. So honestly anything can happen if trunks can plow a woman who by all regards should be easily in her 60-70s
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>>143038599
It's a Spirit Bomb with its colors reversed
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why didn't Trunks asked to borrow the main timeline dragon balls when he first came in the show?

>borrow DBZ
>resurrect everyone
>???
>profit
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>>143044376
The dragon probably can't grant wishes in different time periods
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>>143044603

what about the universes tournament then? didn't they fight for taking the last dragon ball?

I don't really watch Super so please don't eat me out
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>>143041269
Goten, wasn't planned. He was a happy accident
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>>143041547
Black goku looks too young to be normal goku
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>>143036546
>his parents love the alternate version of their son more than their actual child
kek
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>>143041115
>>143041547
I could dig the theory if instead of being Goten, it was Gohan's son because then they don't have to explain all that much away, just that Gohan had a son, he was kidnapped and assumed dead, Gohan trains Trunks then dies, etc.

Gohan's son was kidnapped to be trained in the case that Buu was to ever show up, and maybe he did and was taken out right away by Black, and soon after, he was already insane or became insane and decided to fuck with Trunks because Trunks got to be with the father he didn't get to or something. Now the Kai that trained him is on his way.
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>>143044056
They made their wish sometime before the Andriods and became babies, as they had no idea the dragon could grant 2 wishes during RoF.
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where all the kais and immortal entities in the future trunks timeline? are we to assume the androids killed them 2? did they kill magic?
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>finally save timelime from evil androids
>evil Goku suddenly appears and murders everyone you know and love
And then as soon as Trunks raises his powerlevel enough to fight Black, Babbidi will then come knocking and wake up Buu, too I bet
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>>143045180
>Kais giving a fuck about anything
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>>143045184
There's not enough people alive in Trunks' time for Babbidi to use their energy to bring back Buu, he would have brought him back to life a long time ago if there was.
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>>143045378
I thought a fight between vegeta and goku is enough to wake him up
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>>143045413
Because of how strong they are, there's not really anyone left to do that in Future Trunks' timeline.
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>SSJ4 still doesn't exist

WHAT THE FUCK

Fuck your god shit.

Golden ape and beyond is the real ultimate power.
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>>143045532
Trunks and black
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>>143045730
Babbidi better get to Earth fast before they kill him then.
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>>143045209
The green Kai clearly cares. I can't see Toriyama making a kaioshin an antagonist, especially since he was seen standing with Trunks and Mai.
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>>143044992
At least present Trunks is still able to get some hand holding from his lady.
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>>143036817
>yfw Black Goku K.O.'s Beerus in one hit.
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What the fuck is even the point? Black would get his ass handed to him in before he can blink if Beerus (or even worse, Whis) decides he needs a beating.
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>>143045937
You could say the same about Frieza, yet look at RoF.

They are not going to intervene, both of them think it will be very good training for Goku and Vegeta.
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>>143045937
i don't know exactly what it is but there is something really cool about goku vegeta beerus and whis hanging out together


maybe is just beerus, he makes everything better
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>>143046130
goku face though
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I was wondering, when Super Buu started killing off humanity, the influx of souls caused King Yenma to send Vegeta to solve shit despite him being weaker.

With what the Androids were doing and Goku Black, why didn't he send a deceased Z-Fighter? Goku and Gohan would have continued training in Other World.
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>>143046338
Well we can say Trunks was probably close to Goku's strength in the cell saga. If he teleported back to his timeline he would be the strongest person there. Sure he could send them back but by the time they could train to be strong enough its too late. Also how could he send Goku back if Goku black IS Goku?
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Trunks should just agree
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>>143046512
He can't. His suffering will not end so easily.
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>>143046595

Why is it that Gohan's death was traumatic enough to push him to Super Saiyan, but losing his mother and girlfriend in the same day does jack squat?
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>>143046316
What's wrong with it ?
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It would be great if we got some real character growth. Stuff like Future trunks talking to young mai, telling her that he failed to protect her tearfully. Talking to his young self and telling him to always protect Mai

but this fucking series will just have something really fucking stupid like Bulma making up bullshit and saying FTrunks is just a relative
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>>143046631
Because he's losing the will to live.
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>>143046641
No, what we need is good fucking fights. I don't give two shits about you fucking shippers, or the zany zesty adventures of the Pilaf gang.
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>>143046641

>Bulma not telling her son the truth

For what purpose? That would be fucking stupid. Plus they call him by the same name, so he is probably putting two and two together.

>>143046729

Pilaf gang and kid Trunks/Goten are in the OP now so they probably play some role. In the NEP Chichi shows up which means Goten will likely come up again. The question is what role do they play, since Mai's VA said she would be voicing her in every single episode of this arc.
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>>143046631
Because somehow he is the ultimate beta now. He's already given up any hope of fighting and is putting everything in running to the other timeline.

There is more then a couple issues I don't get though. If Goku Black has to dodge/block Trunks' base form cat food diet self then what exactly fucking happened when it was Trunks on a good diet? And how is it suposed to pose as a threat to the main universe? Why wasn't this shit answered instead of all the waste of time that was episode 47?
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>>143046994
Find out next time on Dragon Super episode 49!
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MaixTrunks doujinshi when?
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>>143046994

There will probably be some flashbacks of the non-PTSD kind in upcoming episodes that hopefully explain that. If there's not, then that's really a missed fucking opportunity to flesh out F. Trunks and F. Mai as well as F. Bulma.
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>>143036817
Dat sexy ssj4 voice makes me hard as fuck.
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The design of black is growing on me

Shit is cool
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>>143047398
He is literally Turles with Goku's body and palette swap Paikuhan's robe.
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>>143036527
>VLC
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>>143047059
Silly anon, you'll get Mai and Bulma getting BLACK
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>>143036546
You can pin point the exact moment his heart breaks.
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>>143041181

Does Goku have any personality outside of wanting to fight?
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>>143047682
Wanting to eat :^)
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I'm surprised they're gonna reveal Black to Goku next week already.

Figured we'd get an episode of info dump and "Haha, you're me from the future?" To Trunks and some more Mai shit because I can't get enough.
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The way Shu is drawn in Super bugs me.

Its so cheap. He used to be really cute.
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Wow I forgot that masenko exist
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>>143047851
loli Mai in a nightgown when?
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>>143047851
>showing that much skin
what a slut
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>>143047903
>>143047914
Man I knew I shoulda cropped Mai out.
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>>143047922
what do you expect from /a/
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>>143047894

Say what you will about super but it does more of a job remembering characters and abilities than anything else in the series.
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>>143045937
Beerus and Whis don't care.
Black can kill everyone.

They are only training Carrot and Vegetable because they think they could become new Gods of Destruction later.
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They coulda just called Dende to heal Trunks and saved a bean.
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>>143047991
black is the god of destruction of another universe. screencap this
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Was Trunks always a person who have outburst of immediately attacking? If so, I cannot blame him/
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What the fuck pilaf teach to a kid
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>>143047494
And an earring you can't forget that. I like him a lot though.

>>143047851
>>143047922
He's a lot younger now though. I think it's fine.
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>>143040342
Im gonna laugh if it just turns out its just a Turles by another name, in another words he looks just like Goku just because he happens to.
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>>143048095
I think he did that in Z.
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>>143048139
Are you one of those fabled "speed watchers"? I didn't think they existed.
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>>143048111

Multiplication goes before adding and subtracting.
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>>143045937

Well, don't know if they had any spoiler info or were just making up stuff, but a CG from Heroes shows Beerus and Whis calmly watching and talking with each other as Black destroyed the future Earth.
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>>143048157
Did you quote the wrong post or something
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>>143048174
No.
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>>143047494
Actually, Turles had Goku eyes. Black has Ultimate Gohan/SSJ type eyes.
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>>143048183
Then my answer is no. The fuck kind of question is that.
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Anyone else think black is goku's corpse turned into an android?
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does homeschooling turn kids like trunks into cucks?
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>>143046631
You can't go SSJ or SSJ 2 like that, you need anger but also a good power level.
Trunks now is probably weaker thanks Cell Trunks. He is not powerful enough to go SSJ 2 even if he has a reason too.
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When did you realize that Super was just as bad as GT?
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>>143048235
Episode 1
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>>143046373
They've died before and got to training. All Yema would need to do is send back Piccolo for the dragon balls. Then they wish everyone back. Goku probably trained the whole time he was dead so he'd likely be beyond ss3 by then.
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>>143046338
Yenma doesn't have the power to do that. He did it with Uranai Baba's help. Taking dead people to Earth for a day is her power.

In Trunks timeline she's probably dead, so they can't do this.
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>>143048235
Except it's not.
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>>143048232
I mean, look at Gohan....
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>Future Goku dies
>keeps training in the afterlife
>gets strong as fuck
>Weird green Kai appears
>something something Goku becomes the next God of Destruction
>Goku is blacked
>he doesn't considers himself a saiyan anymore because he's a god now
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>>143048466
>something something Goku becomes the next God of Destruction

If this is true, why not just destroy the entire planet in the blink of an eye? The answer is simple, Black Goku is toying around with everyone on the planet, especially Trunks.
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>his saiyan rage didn't do shit
>got laugh at

they could have at least let him get a clean hit.
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>>143048555
Was it even SSJ2?
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>>143048162
>Multiplication goes before adding and subtracting.
isn't it the other way around?
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>>143048592
jesus christ I want summer to end
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>>143048592
holy fucking shit
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>>143048592
How old are you?
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>>143048592
...
No
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>>143048529
Well, even Trunks can destroy the entire planet in the blink of an eye. The only problem is surviving in space, but it might not be a problem for Black, as he can even travel to an alternate past.
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>>143048592
Holy fuck
No way
Just get out
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>>143048592
Here is your (you)
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>>143048592
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>>143048592
And I thought Trunks was a little slow for not knowing basic arithmetic at his age...
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>>143048555
It wasn't rage. He was thinkin' how to scape before he transformed.
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>>143048592
Thanks for the laugh /a/non, here's your (you)
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1,000 - 900 X 0.5 = 550? This is math I did in my head without using paper. Should I go back to the third grade?
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>>143048782
Blast yourself on the way out
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>>143048592
>being dumber than pilaf
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>>143048814
Isn't Pilaf kind of a genius though?
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>>143048861
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>>143048861
>Two pairs of posts within a minute
Dude, do you even 4chan?
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>>143048839
He's also 40 years old acting smart in a children's class.

>>143048861
Can't let you do that, senpai.
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>>143048861
Damage control isn't going to fix your age
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>>143048861
lmao retard
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I got hyped about DBS threads since it's getting better than it's been, but goddamn it, I'm staying out of DBS threads. The exact same questions are asked and answered every single thread multiple times as well as the same arguments with similar conclusions are reached. Screw this, I'm out.
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>>143049043
Welcome to the last 15 years of Dragon Ball threads
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>>143048643

I would have said I am 12 and some other things just to piss you off, then I remember getting banned for doing so before.
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>Trunks future timeline

Why would you even want to go back?
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>>143049114
It's still home and saving the alternate timeline doesn't affect his timeline.
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>>143048095
Yes. Trunks is a much more serious fighter than the other saiyans, he couldn't give less of a fuck about muh pride.

Trunks is what Gohan should have been.
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>>143049142
Everyone he knew and loved died, and chancer are even if he defeats Black 5 years down the line Evil Beerus will appear and kill everyone again
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>>143049207
Then he'll just have to keep getting stronger. That's what's amazing about Future Trunks. He didn't save the world from the androids by going back in time and saving an alternate timeline.
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>>143049233
At some point you have to cut your loses
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>>143048095
>Was Trunks always a person who have outburst of immediately attacking?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjL8YVSewPc
That was his thing in DBZ

He sometimes just shouts and attacks
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>>143036546
>Pilaf thinks he's an illegitimate older brother who has the same name
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>>143049289
I'd agree with you, but this is Dragonball we're talking about, so there's always something that can be done. Don't know what yet; hopefully Trunks has inherited his mother's and grandfather's brain.
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>>143048235
as good*
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>>143044650
Zarama can grant any wish with no limitations but the Super Dragon Balls are hard as fuck to gather.
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>>143049374
Is it that hard to believe?
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>>143049470
sounds just like the black star dragon balls...
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>>143049495
black star dragon balls are easy to collect in person but gigantic planets?

good luck.
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If Trunks now fucks Mai, then Goten will fuck Marron?
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>>143049495
Not really. The super dbs are each bigger than the Earth, spread across two universes, and there's no downside to using them.
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Is Mai X Trunk technically /ss/?
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Isn't this a different, different Trunks? The other one had purple hair.
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say hello to goku black maybe
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>>143049710
No, it's the same one.
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>>143049731
well why is his hair blue then
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>>143049750
Beats me. Trunks asks that same question and Bulma asks if the person in the time machine has blue hair, so apparently they're going to act like he always had blue hair.
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>>143049721
I will laught like maniac if its turn out true
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>>143049761
>they're going to act like he always had blue hair.
>The episode before there is a flashback of him having purple hair
kek
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where are the leaks? usually someone is like 5 episodes later so and so defeated black and they tell what happens
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>>143046338
The androids made it a game, they killed a lot of people but took their time doing it. I doubt Yenma really cared or even noticed.
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>>143047983

Does that mean Lunch or the Cane school will reappear again?
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i can't stand the waiting. i wish the entire series was finished. with 9000 episodes for me to watch
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>>143049795
That's what happens when you recycle footage
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Cant he restore his timeline, planet and people with the Super Dragon balls? Hell, they could even restore the other 6 missing universes with them
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>>143049916
yep
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>>143047851
The way everyone is drawn in super bugs me.
They look like chinese knock offs of their original designs.
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>>143049721
He's dead
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>>143050029
could be a diff timeline version
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>>143050023
They've got none of those soft lines, everything looks very stiff and lifeless, there's no organic feeling to it.

I'm not one to rag on about digital animation but the show looks like it's 2001-tier digital, it looks awful visually.
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I know how they're going to beat Goku Black. https://youtu.be/aTIFoqoYj20
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>>143050100
funny toyyuma or whatever his name is has a good sense of humour
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What if....Goku Black and the new Kai are guardians of time and tasked with destroying time-lines that abuse time-travel?
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>>143050144
this aint terminator
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there are 168 hours in a week
how can you guys stand to wait that long for the next episode
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>>143050091
Everyone is so skinny too and not in the buu saga's svelte but jacked kind of way.
Most of the adults look less ripped than the kids used to
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>>143050206
Art styles change.
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>>143046631
anime filler
he was SSJ before gohan dying the manga
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>>143046631

He's been eating dog food for years. I'm surprised he could even reach SSJ1 in this episode.
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>>143048592
PEMDAS, retard.
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>>143046631
Powerlevels have gotten completely out of hand.
I bet black goku will be stronger than goku next episode too until he goes blue.
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I dont get one thing.

From the time Trunks left after the Cell games to return to his timeline until now he didn't change a bit while Gohan changed completly.

Like...whaaat?
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>>143050477
Depends. We don't know how much time passed on his timeline since Black blacked his world
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>>143048095

Trunks is one of the few DBZ characters that don't just stare at the enemies while they are in front of him doing nothing or powering up.

>He attacked the Androids the second he had them on sight
>He attacked Vegeta when he was letting Cell absorb A-18
>He attacked Cell when he was transforming
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>>143050469
this is not about power levels but about trunks transforming when a loved one dies in front of him

also the point of a villain is to not have him beat in one episode
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How do we save him?
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>>143050477
His hair is blue though.
Also it's worse, he seems to have gotten younger somehow.
After the 2 years in the hyperbole time changer trunks was around the same height as goku
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>>143050581
This. People keep assuming it's the same amount of time but I doubt it was any at all, society clearly didn't recover from the androids.
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>>143049798
No magazine episode summaries this time for some reason.
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>>143050477

Trunks kept training and fighting against this Black guy. Gohan, after Buu saga, stoped training and his body changed.
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>>143050581
Literally the same amount of time passed in his and "our" timeline you autism magnet
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>that crack
Damn
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How strong is Black Goku?

It seems he has a different kind of aura, and he can simply travel in time too it seems.

Will he be stronger than SSG Goku with 10x Kaio-ken?

If so, Vegeta and Goku could simply do the fusion.
This would be total overkill.
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>>143050724
I'm pretty sure it recovered but Goku Black just destroyed everything again. Trunks talks about traveling 17 years into the past, and that lands him in Super's current point, so around 10-13 years passed depending on Super's current year.
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>>143050729
You fucking potato
Gohan from a teenager became an adult looking guy while trunks looks exactly the same
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>>143050477
If you care about consistent character designs you shouldn't watch Super.

This is what 22-year-old Trunks looked like in the manga.
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>>143050756
>with 10x Kaio-ken?
Will that even be used again? It wasn't in the manga and the anime kept saying that it'd be too dangerous to use again. That might have been just a way to explain why we won't ever see that form again.
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>>143050785
I hope he regains his gains and long hair now that he isn't eating cat food and dogfood.
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>>143050756
As strong as he needs to be.
We're going by superman power levels now.
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>Bulma asked if his hair was blue
So I guess he was never purple haired from the start.
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>>143050785
He never looked like this in the anime tho
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>>143050836
>gains
Won't happen, Toriyama has stopped drawing gains on DB characters. The skinny type characters are his designs now.
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Get in here, we are 40 members in the discord, we talk about the games and Super.
You can make commands/tags with the bot and make an archive of the OC pictures.
We will make tourneys for XV2 but if you still play XV we can make for that one too.
In the profile you can place your CaCs

https://discord.gg/01156sGqFoa4SycQt
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>>143050850
It's weird though because kid trunks still has purple hair, what is going on?
Maybe the liquid blue fuel turns your hair blue 3 years after being exposed to it's light for the first time and that's why bulma's hair was blue and how she knew his hair would be blue by that point.
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>>143036817
I would have been more hype if it was evil Gohan instead
>Mystic Gohan comes to fuck everyones shit and in some wired way make Goku proud
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>>143046512
BLACKED
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>>143048095
BLACKED
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>>143050873
Toei couldn't handle his manly chin.
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>>143040609
differentiation
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>>143050873
He did get manlier, just not as much.
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I never really liked it but now I seriously fucking hate the direction this is going...
Every single character if he just powered up to the max from the begining all fights would end in 1 hit but nooooo, you need to fight for half hour before you can power up.

Fuck this shit i'am out
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>>143051135
What
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>>143048555
he did get a clean hit

black was fucking laughing when he had a gut-full of fist. goddamn savage
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>>143049309
I forgot how bad this was.
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>>143048592
Nigga take your ass back to middle school
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>>143040989
Dude, do you even know what PTSD is?
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>>143045378
It will after Goku/Vegeta's battle against Black Goku
>>143045647
SSB is far and above SSJ4 in terms of power. Golden Frieza alone is 100 Quintillion in power level, that stupidly exceeds SSJ4 which SSB can hang with.
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>>143045647
Because it's
1) poorly designed
2) weaker than SSB
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>Trunks already with blatant Mai crush

Oh boy
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>>143050785
>If you care about consistent character designs you shouldn't watch Super.
Super may have a less than stellar art style but it has more consistent character designs than Z ever had.
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Future Mai should have survived and went to the past with Trunks. Would be fun to see how loli Mai reacts to seeing her future self.
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>>143050771

that would put trunks around 30 when he still clearly looks like a teenager
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>>143051478
That was actually one of the complaints the animators threw at Super's director. Apparently he's very pushy regarding keeping to the "official" character sheets, rather than giving them freedom which just hurt the schedule even more. It might have been one of the reasons he was dropped from the show, so we might start seeing that kind of art variation now since he was replaced.
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>>143051509
It really would have been great. I mean Future Mai must be nearing 80
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>>143051553
There was a message from his voice actor where he talks about how Trunks is mature now and he's voicing him as such, but he still looks young due to his Saiyan blood.
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>>143051557
If they were complaining about sticking to the art style they've been producing that could either be good or very very bad.
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>>143051478
I meant consistent with the story. Every time there was a timeskip, Gohan got older and Bulma's hair changed. Super's character designs are static but don't make sense in the continuity.

Anyway, I don't like the old anime either.
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It's going to happen. Future Trunks is going to be what Madara Uchicha was to Naruto for Gohan.

He's going to reach down and drag Gohan back from the depths of disappointment and mediocrity.
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Remember when he gave Bardock Saiyan Armor that didn't exist until Sorbet?

Remember when he gave Bardock shoulder pads, even though Gine is standing right there without them?

Remember when Goku was actually 3 fucking y ears old when he left Vegeta?

Toriyama doesn't, Bardock actually wore a suit and Goku was 12 years old when he left Vegeta now...he was also a Namekian right?
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>>143051591
>VAs
>knowing shit
Half bloods don't stay young like that.
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>>143051703
Explain.
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>>143051624
I'd hope it's good. I'm sure there aware of people's distaste for Toriyama's new style. We might actually get a fight or two reminiscent of the old style.
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>>143051729
Not that retard but
>F.Trunks talks to Gohan
>realize how much of a bitch he became
>Does some shit talking and motivational talk
>Gohan becomes less of a bitch
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>>143051582
She's pretty cute for an old lady
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Is present Trunks allowed to be happy?
I didn't think I would like this ship, but then again I did like Mai a lot way back when
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>>143051703
Gohan fags are becoming more and more nonsensical in their delusions.
I can't even understand their words anymore.
I'm scared of what they might do if this keeps escalating.
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>>143051776
>Is present Trunks allowed to be happy?
Of course, he's not from the future.
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Another great episode
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>>143049721
that would be genius
>steals goku's body
>freiza inevitably kills the ginyu force in a rage
>ginyu fucks off and trains
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>>143051761
I can also see the dark possibility that the animators could have been producing even shittier work and the director was being "too picky".
I've learned to lean toward pessimism with this series wherever i can. I am still sometimes disappointed sometimes.
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>>143051845
That raises a question. Can Ginyu take over dead bodies?
What if he fixed up Goku's body and then took it over?
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Is the animation good now? Can I finally swap over from the manga?
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>>143051959
You should have swapped over during Hit's fight

The manga version wasn't as good in some ways
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>>143051868
It's definitely possible. I just miss the old style of Dragonball, I don't know why Toriyama and them have gone with this sort of lanky aesthetic, it's so jarring. Hell even the comedy is jarring at times, like I'm all for more call backs to before Z, but Goku feels like he's gone all the way back to Kid Goku at this point instead of the Goku we saw that got serious as fuck at times during Z and clearly pissed.
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>>143051718
>Remember when he gave Bardock Saiyan Armor that didn't exist until Sorbet?
That's not the Sorbet style armor tough. It's basically the Bardock special armor with shoulder pads. No big crystal or those odd lower lines.

>Remember when he gave Bardock shoulder pads, even though Gine is standing right there without them?
How is that related to anything?

>Remember when Goku was actually 3 fucking years old when he left Vegeta?
That actually makes sense though. If he was really a baby, how the hell would Radtiz think that he remembered any mission and he only forgot it due to amnesia? The anime going with Baby Goku doesn't make any sense. It's just accepted because that's how people got into the series, but it's completely senseless.
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>>143051959
You should have started watching the anime when the tournament arc started.
The manga is horribly inconsistent.
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>>143052006
Not him, but that actually is Sorbet's armor. You can see how it rounds out on the shoulder pads in Minus.

I think most people just preferred Bardock without the shoulder pads and bandanna, I know I did.

On another note, how bad do you guys think Gine would have chewed out Raditz for being mean to his brother and nephew?
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>>143052119
I kind of wish something like this could happen in Super. Could lead to some comedic events.

>But mother he abandoned the Saiyan race!
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>>143052119
>Not him, but that actually is Sorbet's armor. You can see how it rounds out on the shoulder pads in Minus.
The shape of the shoulder pads resembles it, but it doesn't have the crystal or the black parts going into the shoulder/hip protections before changing material, unlike the new armors.
>>
y porque no Gohan?
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>>143052216
I wish they'd just bring back Raditz, so many missed opportunities that it's insane. They haven't even acknowledged that Raditz has existed in years, let alone that he's fucking Goku's brother (outside of Minus) obviously.

Hell Raditz would be pretty strong by this point as well had he lived. He'd probably be border-lining SSJ2.
>>143052250
Oh yeah that's all I was getting at, the shoulders pads resemble it, I think it looks odd personally, I prefer to the sleeveless variant for Bardock myself.
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I still don't think Mai's dead
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>>143052297
gohan es irrelevante
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>>143052297
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>>143052321
>>I wish they'd just bring back Raditz
Literally nobody cares
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>>143050808
i mean the super manga hasn't reached that point yet
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>>143052297

>Gohan
>Relevante

Putos panchitos.
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>>143052398
the raws are out
he went ssj god then ssj blue
no kaioken
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>>143052382
>not caring about Uncle Raditz

You should be ashamed, also tons of people like Raditz.
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>>143050887
Toriyama is going full Araki

soon everyone will look like a girl.
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>>143052119
In the manga, Vegeta says that the shoulder pad armor is the newer model, and the one with the straps is older. In Dragon Ball Minus, Bardock's shoulder pad armor is broken so he presumably just wears his older armor when he goes to confront Freeza. I guess sometime over that month he starts wearing a bandanna too for some reason, I don't know.

Jaco has plenty of inconsistencies with the manga, I don't think Bardock dressing slightly differently is an important one.
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>>143052432
thank fuck

the manga also didn't make frost evil like freeza

stupid toei
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>>143049721
>no posing.
theory discarded.
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>>143050748
For someone supposedly stronger than Super Saiyan God he sure is having a lot of trouble with a measly super saiyan.
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>>143051247
Yeah because Dragonball Super will actually tackle something like serious trauma. Don't be a dipshit.
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>>143050848
>yfw Black Goku is the Superman Prime of this multiverse.
>>
Prediction for how long this arc is gonna run?
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>>143052501
>Trunks still hasn't reached SSJ2 despite having an entire year of watching close family and friends die
>one of which was his mother and waifu

Trunks you're incompetent.
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>>143052547
>Trunks has PTSD from seeing his family and friends die
>Nope totally didn't happen! Nuh-uh!
This is what you're doing right now.
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>>143052601
He doesn't. He was just having a nightmare and lashed out. If he goes on blaming goku for some reason it's gonna be bad drama.
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>>143052474
>the manga also didn't make frost evil like freeza
Eh, Piccolo says he may turn into the Frieza they know.

That said it was better that he's Freiza that uses more underhanded methods rather than pure force than what he was in the manga.
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>>143052574
10 weeks, maybe?
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>>143052661
that was just a remark for the kids to be good boys
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>>143052622
Future Trunks left at the end of the Cell Saga, the time where Goku himself requested that he shouldn't be resurrected. Who else would he think otherwise seeing that he's not aware of the events happened during his last visit?
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>>143052574
looking how weak black is, not for long
4-5 episodes maybe
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>>143052622
Do you even know what PTSD is?
Plus he thinks the Goku of that time is dead you idiot.
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Mai's coming back to life, r-right?

Why would they put her in the OP if she wasn't coming back guys!!
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>>143052574
Probably around 26 weeks, I'd guess half a year would be a decent timescale considering Black probably won't be the main villain.
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>>143052710
Unless he's not the real Black or there are multiple.
Seriously though you're an idiot if you think it's only going to last 4-5 episodes because that would mean we have two/three more episodes.
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>>143052734
>>>/co/
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>>143052710
Trunks seems to force Goku to go SSJ next episode and the preview says that Black is stronger than Goku. It seems like Trunks only lacks Blue, but otherwise is on par with the god people.
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>>143052728
>Dying in Dragon Ball
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>>143052710
>4-5 episodes maybe
Hahahahahahaha
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>>143052728
Don't worry, at the end of this arc, the SUPER Dragon Balls will make things better and Trunks will have his own dango kazoku.
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>>143052767
>Trunks seems to force Goku to go SSJ
he is probably just showing of
and asking if black is stronger than him
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>>143052710
>takes a hit from SSJ Trunks
>Trunks spends most of his time running away like a bitch
>Trunks hasn't grown one bit and is just like Gohan


They're the same, disappointments
>>
>No SoL with Future Trunks and Future Gohan broing it up
Oh what could have been
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>>143052767
If Toriyama and Toei are still going with how they're ripping some stuff from Heroes/Online, then Trunks would be nearing SSJ3 levels at most.
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>>143052829
>No SoL with Raditz and Nappa trying to be uncles/god-uncles to Goten and Trunks
>tfw they realize the kids can turn SSJ and get pissy
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>>143052734
>black goku
>superboy prime
They're the same fucking character.
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>>143052863
Aren't sparkles supposed to be pink? Are those Super Saiyan Sparkles or Golden Sparkles?
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>>143052863
DOUJINS

WHEN
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>>143052863
Is Mai's mind a child's as well or does she still feel like an adult, if so that's pretty weird.
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>>143052887
Do you even know shit about Superboy Prime?
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>>143052851

If we go by Xenoverse, Trunks should be around that level actually, since he fights against Beerus and Whis alongside the Time Patroler by the end of the game and doesn't get instantly defeated unlike the Battle of Gods Z Warriors.


The extra transformations for Trunks in Heroes don't really have any story attached to them. They're just there for the opening animations and gameplay.
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>>143052863

BAN THIS SICK FILTH
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>>143052918
She's an adult but the Pilaf gang were always surprised at how people of this age were so upfront with their feelings and other lewd shit.
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>>143052863

I wonder if the dub will go through with this shit knowing it is pretty much pedophilia
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>>143052950
>Adult Mai in a loli body is getting swept off her feet by a a pre-teen

L-lewd!
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threadly reminder that future trunks never archived ssj2 and is probably just as weak as gohan
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>>143052863
DELETE THIS
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>>143052918
The entire thing with the Pilaf gang was that they were all grown adults with the minds of children
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>>143052928
>>143052851
I know Toriyama considers some things about Online canon since he worked on it, but does he even consider Trunks being a Time Patroller canon?
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>>143052987
actually, Gohan is probably still stronger than him.
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>>143052987
Forms not being the be all end all has been a thing for a while now anon.
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>>143052987
F. Trunks is stronger than Gohan, he didn't have to struggle to go SSJ like the latter did.

Hell, at this point even Kid Trunks is stronger. Goku had no problem locking on to his ki unlike he did with Gohan.
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>>143048782

You are correct, sir.
>>
Why did people seem to think that Black is not the main villain? I mean all promotion source indicate that he is the main villain isn't it?
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Poor Trunks
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>>143053122
Because the arc is marketed as "Trunks arc", not "Goku Black arc". Besides, if it's inspired by the Android Saga, that had 3 villain switches, and we already have at least one other suspicious character with that "Zamasu", the first Kaioshin with his own name outside of Heroes/Xenoverse stuff.
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>>143053061
>future trunks is weaker than his kid self
they really must hate him
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>>143053122
because he looks very weak
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>>143052987
>>143053036
>Gohan was stronger than ssj3
>Struggle just to turn regular ssj now
>Trunks can still turn ssj no problem after starving for years
Explain this Gohanfags
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>>143053175
That Zanmatsu seems like a good guy to me
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>>143053159
Where's the /fit/ image about gains and women?
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>>143052998
>Future trunks face when
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>>143053179
I think he meant Kid Trunks is stronger than Gohan.

There is no way Future Trunks is weaker than Kid Trunks. You got to remember he has Full Power SSJ and Kid Trunks doesn't.
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>>143053216
That's how it always starts.
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>>143053159
C A T F O O D
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F
O
O
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>>143053159
cat food and cardio man

it ruins the gains
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>>143053219
That shit's canon at this point I swear
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>>143053214
situations. Trunks is still fleeing for his life, While Gohan has been a scholar for some time.
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>>143053159
>>143053260
>>143053269
He should just go SSJ Grade 3, he might look normal again.
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>>143052863

A forty something year old woman enters a romantic relationship with a preteen boy.

But it's ok, as long as it's not the other way around. Gotta love that twisted double standard.

"DURR DURR I wish I had her as a comedic minor antagonist growing up etc etc"
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>>143052863
What a nice thing...It would be too bad if someone blacked it up
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>>143053159
most say it's the catfood, others think he's just a pussy, but what if mai doesn't feel comfortable around buff men so he had to give in.
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>>143053159
WHEN WILL THEY BRING BACK LONG HAIRED MUSCLED TRUNKS DAMN IT
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>>143053331
Cat food is almost pure protein. It's not the food itself. It' the amount. Also the lack of sparring partners.
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>>143053253
>You got to remember he has Full Power SSJ
They never said that anywhere
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So everybody in Future Trunk's timeline fucking died again?
>>
imagine if goten was there too
he would have a mental breakdown
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>>143053428
Well everyone that was left after the first time.
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>>143053438

That his buddy has a long lost brother? I don't really see what's so damn surprising about it.
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>>143053428
>again
Nope, they stayed dead.
It was the survivors that died now.
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>>143053438
I want Goten to be killed by Evil Goku.

He is worthless either way so he can used as an emotion-bait.
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>>143053465
besides looking like black
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>smugly follows you no matter what timeline you are to fuck your shit up
And it has to be trunks to have him as enemy
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>>143053428

And the people who died from Cell will never come back. All the Z fighters are gone for good and so if he was to go back to Namek, only the recent people killed by Black Goku will be revived.
>>
So what's in store for Trunks? Even if they won, unless they used the stronger balls, Trunks would only be returning to a smoking ruins.

Mum dead? Check.
Waifu dead? Check.
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>>143052440
I like working with weak materials like paper mache too, but you don't see me crying about it
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>>143048095
>>143049114
https://comfy.moe/brgviq.webm
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>>143053321
>A forty something year old woman enters a romantic relationship with a preteen boy.
>But it's ok, as long as it's not the other way around.

Nah, it's more like, at least as far as fictional characters go, physical appearance > actual age.

There's a reason people complain about "1000 years old loli" getting into romance with males who are older looking but actually younger than them - it's seen as just an excuse to have a young girl as a love interest. Here, their physical ages match, so there's no problem.
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>>143053428
>So everybody in Future Trunk's timeline fucking died again?
They never came back in the first place. No Dragon Balls
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>>143053541
>implying he won't fight in the multiverse tournament desperately to bring them back alive with the super dragonballs
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>>143053486
I want ANYONE to be killed. It's not dragonball without people dying left and right. Happy times are over bitches.
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>>143036546
>Blue hair Future Trunks
>Purple hair Present Trunks
This will continue to irk me
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>>143053607
>I want ANYONE to be killed.
We just had two
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>>143052863
I wish I could magically transform into a kid an seduce trunks.
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>>143053379
>Long hair
Never
>muscled trunks
Also never, it's not good enough now apparently. Buff people scare new Japanese kids I guess.

>tfw Super gets dubbed and instead of changing the music Funimation just makes everyone buff

Would you guys like it?
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>>143053486
Goten is at the end of the title card alongside the Pillaf gang and Trunks, so maybe he'll get some kind of important role.
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>>143053620
>Flashback of Blue-haired Future Trunks is Purple
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Where has this "Black looks weak" meme come from?
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>>143053600

>trunks get jobbed
>turned around the match after a dramatic talk about how he couldn't lose

Or he can live with Cabba. Having two Trunks in a universe can be troublesome.
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>>143053637
>makes everyone buff

Even Vados?
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>>143053428
17/18 didn't kill everyone on the planet, there were still tons of Cities left and people riding on amusement parks. They just ran through and had some fun every now and then and fucked with people. Probably wanted to keep people alive for new clothes, fun, etc.

Black Goku has killed like 98% of the people though, they're near extinction, or what was left after the Androids.
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Goku black is probably just a Kai that can shapeshift
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>>143053641
Yeah the same role he's had for the past 20 years, Trunks' bitch.
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>>143053692
He's probably just Puar. Cats are evil and he was just waiting for his chance.
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>>143053544
>Raditz
>weak

Yeah now he's weak as fuck. He was one of the strongest Saiyans to ever exist when he first showed up. The only people stronger were King Vegeta, Vegeta, and Nappa. You can count Broly (not-canon) and Bardock (his power level is not-canon), and Turles (also not-canon) if you want though.

Raditz wasn't weak, he was just weak compared to everything that came after.
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>>143053692

An evil Kai that can shapeshift? Why does he know Trunks name then?
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>>143053656
I'm guessing it came from the scene where he takes a punch from Trunks (which he laughed off)

I have no idea how anybody thinks they can judge Black's full power.
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>>143053747
Why does he refer to Trunks as a Saiyan like he's not a Saiyan as well.
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>First the androids and now Black
Why even bother with that timeline? Shit is fucked.
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>>143053720
>Puar took Goku's place saying that he asked King Kai to communicate with the Namekians to bring him back
>stayed in solitude all of these years to master perfect transformation and Goku's moves
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>>143053665
Everyone
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>>143053379
>tfw never will see my husbando in his perfect form again
suffering
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>>143053743
Pretty sure he was low-class. The Saibaimen were as strong as him.
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>>143053743
>Broly (not-canon
>tfw a non canon villain is more popular than most canon ones
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>>143053656
he looks very weak compared to beerus and hit
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>>143040603
>Goku isn't around to be a good dad to Goten
>Goten raised by that stupid cunt Chi Chi and forced to study until the point in time where he can overpower her
>He rapes and kills her and becomes Black Goku
I can believe it.
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>>143053785
He was low-class, but he was still damn strong. You've got to remember most Saiyans never had a threat and didn't get the chance to grow, they just easily conquered planets and went on their way. Had Raditz, and Nappa both lived they'd be fairly damn strong now.

And the Saibaman were only as strong as they were because the Earth had fertile soil for them to grow better.
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>>143053780
Damn I want to see long-haired Trunks again
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at least the nips find him cool even though he jobs all the time. It must be the sword.
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>>143053780
He really only looked like that in the movies though
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>>143053858
Everyone looks better with a sword to be honest.
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>>143053841
me too anon, me too.
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>>143053858
It's definitely the sword. Nips are like King Cold, they're all faggy with shit taste and are think the sword is a powerful artifact of glorious magic that makes everyone super strong and cool.
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>>143053767
Because he is not?
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>>143053768
he still has the cat at least. Does that count?
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Why doesn't Korin just make a batch every month and let bulma have them, so that when an emergency occurs they can quickly access it.
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>>143052440

Who? And why do they like him? He's one of the most shallow villains. He was just a dick for the sake of being a dick. He was also pretty stupid.

The only reason some people act as if he's relevant is because he was introduced as Goku's brother.
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i like the fact that beerus is part of the main cast now
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>>143053973
I guess he just doesn't have to sleep anymore.
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>>143052863
>forcing Mai to hold his hand

DELETE THIS NOW.
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>>143053940
cat is definitely black though
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>>143051256
>100 quintillion
Pls stop
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>>143053901
>It's definitely the sword
Trunks is also a pretty tragic character and the closest thing there is to a bishounen as well
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>>143053840

Him being a low class means that there were tons of Saiyans who were stronger than him.

>If if if

Yeah IF the high tier Saiyans weren't killed by Frieza and trained properly, then a lot of them would be pretty strong too. But they weren't and neither was that Saiyan-Yamcha who didn't even know that you could raise your power level and didn't bother to train his tail.

>And the Saibaman were only as strong as they were because the Earth had fertile soil for them to grow better.

Making shit up now?
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>>143053956
If he wanted to kill Goku he would have done so, but he didn't. Besides Goku having a brother seems like a pretty damn important plot point that was just quickly swept under the rug.

Hell he's probably stronger than fucking Gohan now.
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>>143053858
definitely the sword. Not to mention he uses it in his fighting too.

plus sword beams and sword throws are cool man
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>>143054022
Confirmed by Toriyama.
>>143054031
Goku was also a low-class Saiyan anon, and no, Nappa himself said the Saibaman were a good batch because of the soil.

Raditz and Nappa both would likely have SSJ2 had they lived. Hell Vegeta might have been even stronger than he was during the Buu Saga because he'd have at least have had them to train with during the 7 year gap.
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>>143054047

Why should it be an important plot point? Do you think that all of Big Moms children should be important because they happen to be related to an important character? I don't understand why people think that a character should be important just because of some DNA.

>Hell he's probably stronger than fucking Gohan now.

He's dead and nothing we saw of him suggested that he had any potential.
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>>143054029
the fujos would be wetting if he have his old look
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>>143054047
It was important in that it led to the saiyan saga and the lore behind goku's origin. Raditz did his job.

Just because he's his brother doesn't mean he needs to become a permanent member of the cast.
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>>143053321
>A forty something year old woman enters a romantic relationship with a preteen boy.

Said woman is also part of the group of greatest retards in DB, the Pilaf Gang. If anything Kid Trunks is the one at fault here, he shouldn't be this precocious.

>>143053582
>Here, their physical ages match, so there's no problem.

Are you kidding? I don't care if Mai was an adult before, right now she is a child. Two kids shouldn't be getting romance development, it is just creepy to watch and might influence other kids watching.
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>>143054134
Nothing we saw of Vegeta when he was first introduced suggested he had any potential either to go forward, he was just a strong Saiyan. Yet look at him now after all these years. The only thing that saved Vegeta was Goku, imagine if Vegeta died then. Would we be talking about how weak and pathetic he was just because people like Zarbon and Dodoria are stronger?
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So Black can now sense Trunks Ki even if he goes back in time.. also he is able to go back in with some ring power..

Toriyama being lazy with the writing smdh
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>>143054162
>Two kids shouldn't be getting romance development, it is just creepy to watch and might influence other kids watching.
Ameriprude detected
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>>143053607
Ow the edge.
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>>143054108
>Goku was also a low-class Saiyan anon

And? The point of Goku's character is that effort can overcome natural talent. That doesn't mean that every weakling in the show would become god tier if he's just around long enough.

>Raditz and Nappa both would likely have SSJ2 had they lived.

What makes you think that? There is nothing whatsoever which suggests that they could even become a SSJ.
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>>143054108
Goku being a low class saiyan and reaching the heights he did is what makes Goku a prodigy. If you make every low class saiyan have the same potential it ruins that aspect of Goku.

How do you guys not get that?
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>>143054199
Toriyama has always been lazy with the writing. Besides he's getting old and barely remembers half the shit he started writing 30 years ago.
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>>143053743
>arguing with a joke

apply yourself
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>>143054199
literally ripping space and time so he can just Trunks life

Literally why
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>>143054199
that's probably just a projection
hes asking goku if he wants to fight him
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>>143054188
>Nothing we saw of Vegeta when he was first introduced suggested he had any potential either to go forward

So, therefore, every other character should be expected to have insane potential as well?

You're affirming the consequent.
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I'm just glad that best character got a little bit more screen time.
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>>143054162
>it is just creepy to watch and might influence other kids watching.
Go away soccer mom. Your beta as fuck kids will get cucked when they grow up because you were too busy at PTA meetings to spend time with them.
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>>143054205
>effort can overcome natural talent
Except Goku has natural talent and Vegeta has effort.
>What makes you think that? There is nothing whatsoever which suggests that they could even become a SSJ.
They're Saiyans, by this point in the timeline why wouldn't they at least have achieved SSJ? Lets assume they had lived up until Super and became part of the cast.

They'd likely be behind Vegeta by a bit, and would have reached SSJ around the Cell Games due to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and training with Vegeta/Trunks/Goku/Gohan.

Then we have a 7 year gap where they likely would have trained with Vegeta. Who achieved SSJ2 during this time. Now even after all this time into SSJ, it's hard to say they wouldn't be nearing or at SSJ2 levels.

They sure as shit would have SSJ. Shits handed out like candy.
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>This arc
Does anybody suffer more than Future Trunks? The Dragon Ball world is fucking tragic when the Dragon Ball's no longer exist.
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>>143054257
For Saiyans, yes. That's their entire point is that they have insane potential if given the chance.
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>>143054309
>Except Goku has natural talent and Vegeta has effort.
I don't think you've read Dragon Ball
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Why the fuck is his hair blue now? Does he go super saiyan blue and not even realize?
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>>143054313
Yamcha and Gohan suffer more...and Raditz based on how this thread is starting to go.

Fuck SSJ Gohan lost to First Form Frieza for god's sake.
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>>143054348
They just changed it because
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>>143054257
Yeah because every saiyan totally didn't go beyond Super by the end of the original series.

You're not getting it anon, Saiyans can get stronger and stronger because they're fucking Saiyans.
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>>143054348
same reason why bulmas hair is blue
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>The sword still proves to be ineffective
Literally what the fuck is the point of using it then?

I fucking hate how toriama makes all this cool shit and then just throws them away like he did with Nimbus and the Power Pole
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>>143054313
I still think Future Trunk's suffering isn't enough.
The problem is, in the future there aren't enough people that we know besides Bulma and Mai.
So, they're the "only" victims.
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>>143054372
>Fuck SSJ Gohan lost to First Form Frieza for god's sake.

At least some fodder henchman didn't rip his arm off as if it were made of paper.
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>>143054403
Kintoun is literally on the second to last page of the manga.
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>>143054403
throwing it as a boomerang seems effective
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>>143054343
I don't think you have. Majin Vegeta straight up says that he let himself be controlled because he couldn't match up to Goku's natural talent no matter how hard he trained or effort he put in.
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>>143054309
>They're Saiyans, by this point in the timeline why wouldn't they at least have achieved SSJ?

Because many generations of Saiyans lived without there ever being a SSJ. It's something which is extremely rare.

Goku could achieve it because he's Goku.

Vegeta could achieve it because he's the absolute highest class of Saiyan warrior and a pride-maniac who tortured himself like a madman to achieve that state.

Their children achieved SSJ easily presumably because they were the children of SSJs.

Just because all the important Saiyans we know in the show turned SSJ eventually doesn't mean that it's something common among Saiyans. Hundreds of thousands of Saiyans lived without ever becoming SSJs, let alone SSJ2.

>Lets assume they had lived up until Super and became part of the cast.

Are you saying that Toei would've turned them into SSJ to sell more merch or are you saying that it makes sense for them to turn into SSJ within the logic of the DB universe? I can agree with the former but deny the second.
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>>143054433
Gohan also used it when he was going to school.
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>>143054348
Age
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>>143054433
Yea because it sure as shit deserved to be there after all the hard work it had been doing in DBZ
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>>143054162
>might influence other kids watching.
This fucker's retarded
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>>143054464

And Majin Vegeta didn't understand Goku. Vegeta only learned what Goku was about when he watched him fight Kid Buu. Then he realized that Goku was so insanely strong because Goku was 100% focussed on improving himself. For Vegeta, getting stronger was a means to an end. For Goku, it's a means in and of itself.

There would be no need for Goku to train all the time if it was just natural talent.
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>>143054466
>Their children achieved SSJ easily presumably because they were the children of SSJs.
The most likely case scenario is that it's easier for saiyan hybrids to achieve SS, probably because humans are a more evolved form of monkey.
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>>143054466
>Their children achieved SSJ easily presumably because they were the children of SSJs.
Then why aren't the descendants of the original Super Saiyan able to use the ability?

Also strength isn't passed down like that you idiot.
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>>143054339
No, no, no. That would just water down everything. Goku is a prodigy by virtue of passion. The fact that he turns SS is impressive because he was a low class saiyan. Vegeta is pissed because as an elite, hell not even elite, the prince, he should reach those heights first.

So in a sense, they are both prodigies. You ruin that by making all Saiyans stay alive and reach those heights. Nobody wants that bullshit.
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>>143054525

tb.h they govt is probably mandating they do that because of japans population problem
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>>143054557
Which is why they introduced SSB.
It's literally a Super Saiyan form that requires real training and control instead of just powering up.
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>read through thread
>all this Raditz hate

Shame, Raditz was cool and under-utilized. You guys have been watching too many fourstar raditz jokes.
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>>143054386

Then riddle me this: why there wasn't a single SSJ on planet Vegeta for centuries?

I don't think Tori even wanted to make Vegeta a SSJ. Vegeta got it just because he was a fan favorite, not because it made sense story-wise. Gohan is the most unique Saiyan ever and Trunks&Goten have SSJ DNA or some shit.
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>>143054403
god damn are you retarded? how the fuck do you think he managed to get away from Black?
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Why is Black so scrawny? I admit, it's a good way to help distinguish him from Goku, but still
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>>143054553

Literally who? Are you talking about Bardock? His child was able to become SSJ.

If we're talking about some other dude, then I have no idea who or why you think that he had kids.

In the flashback Vegeta showed, the SSJ destroyed himself by blowing up the planet he was on.
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>>143054466
>>143054557
Cabba, a random ass Saiyan from a Universe where they aren't even warriors who have never even heard of SSJ manages to hold his own against Base Vegeta and ultimately becomes SSJ.

Saiyans are a fucking joke anymore, SSJ stopped being something only the strong could do and just became a thing for every Saiyan, no matter who they were. I'm inclined to agree with the other anon, Raditz and Nappa would have ended up being SSJ. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama brought back Gine she'd also be a SSJ.
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>>143051191
I like it personally
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>>143036817
>Edgeku
Lol

But guys I have to be honest. Although there are some things to appreciate in dragonball super there are other things that bother me so much about it.

Like pic related. Really? This stupid extremely uncool looking character is supposed to be the strongest being in dragonball Z? What the fuck were they thinking when they made this piece of shit?

I'm sorry, this thread is about trunks. I just. I just needed a place to get this off my chest. Pls just continue the thread.
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>>143054688
>Literally who? Are you talking about Bardock? His child was able to become SSJ.
Okay for one is Bardock going back to the past even canon?
Two his son had to achieve it through hard work blowing that reasoning wide open.

>In the flashback Vegeta showed, the SSJ destroyed himself by blowing up the planet he was on.
I hope you aren't saying that he only went SSJ on one single planet when Vegeta implied otherwise.
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>>143054708
>Cabba, a random ass Saiyan

Random? He is literally the strongest Saiyan in the entire universe. And even he needed to be trained by Vegeta before he could go SSJ.

>where they aren't even warriors

Him being gentler might actually be a reason why he could achieve the SSJ form. Wasn't it said that a SSJ needed a good heart or was that just in the dub? In any event, perhaps those who aren't dumb-monkey tier and have more human emotions can turn SSJ more easily.
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>>143054199
>So Black can now sense Trunks Ki even if he goes back in time
He pretty clearly gets the ring from somewhere else
>Toriyama being lazy with the writing smdh
So what else was going to happen? Either they brought him here or they went there. The result would be the same, except this way let's him interact with the rest of the cast
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>>143054708
>Cabba, a random ass Saiyan
He knows the Garlic Gun, so he presumably has some ties to the royal family. It's kind of lazy how they didn't give him much of a backstory though. If they wanted him to be that powerful they should have briefly mentioned how he defeated many powerful villains before.
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>>143054742
his head look like a lemon
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>>143054766
>Okay for one is Bardock going back to the past even canon?
It's not. You can assume it's a different timeline though like the movies and GT if you wish however.
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>>143051703
>It's going to happen. Future Trunks is going to be what Madara Uchicha was to Naruto for Gohan
what? like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
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>>143054606
Raditz is literally Vegeta without the superiority complex. He is just Bad Guy: The Character. He had a purpose and he served it, let it go.

Why are there so many Raditzfags and Yamchafags anyway? Where are the 16fags, or Cuifags, or Panputfags? If you're gonna fanboy a minor character why not go all out? Maybe Draculaman should come back. Man that bear guy from chapter 3 was really underutilized, Toriyama should bring him back. What about that one guy who got impaled by King Piccolo's arm? He was pretty cool.
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>>143054742

>implying that is not his avatar

Then he turned galaxy huge and killed the whole dbz universe.
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>>143054766
>when Vegeta implied otherwise.

He did? Don't remember that.

Did he also imply that said SSJ had kids?

Assuming he did have kids, then the most reasonable explanation is that it has nothing to do with SSJ DNA and that human-Saiyan hybrids are just superior.
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>>143054551
I think it's more to do with Saiyan children or hybrid Saiyan kids to be born with some of their parents power level. Look at Gohan having huge ass power level during radditto, arc. And gotten and trunks having huge power level for no reason.


Also it's easier for hybrid Saiyan to go super because super Saiyan is a result of emotions and humans and hybrids show much more emotions than Saiyan.

Look at vegeta and goku. They almost never fly into a full on rage. Most times they are actually pretty calm and just arrogant when fighting. Meanwhile trunks, old school Gohan, are shouting and throwing rage fits all over the place.
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>>143054742
That's classic Toriyama though
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>>143054403
>Literally what the fuck is the point of using it then?
-It looks cool
-It worked this week didn't it?

>>143054742
>What the fuck were they thinking when they made this piece of shit?
"You Saiyans have a problem with judging people by their appearance" -Whis, last episode
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>>143054742
can't wait when they reveal that are more kings of the multiverse in another multiverse
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>>143054766
>Okay for one is Bardock going back to the past even canon?
It's canon according to the manga's publisher. It's included in the official timeline for the anniversary site which even separates anime from manga events.
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>>143054742
You'll get used to it. When BoG came out people were bitching about Whiss being strongest too.
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>>143054813
>and that human-Saiyan hybrids are just superior.
Except for the fact that Gohan and Future Trunks both had to earn it.
The anomalies being Kid Trunks and Goten.
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>>143052794
>dango kazoku
Fuck you anon, I just finished that ;-;
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>>143054823
>multiverse
The king fell in love with the other king. Unable to confess...
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>>143052794
what would be much greater
Future Trunks seeing everyone alive again due super dragonballs
Or
Future trunks in the aftelife reuniting with everyone

or

bad end
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>>143054742

Perhaps he's like Monaka. Somehow he tricked everybody into believing that he's the god of gods but he's actually just hey arnold.
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>>143054842
And before that came out, people bitched about Beerus before he became the best new character
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>>143051282
It's designed fine, they could easily go SSBSSJ4 just with blue fur
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>>143051703
Im no gohAn fag, but this would be cool. Like, if trunks saw Gohan and just kept talking about how weak he looked. It would be fucking awesome to have a season dedicated to him and Gohan taking down black with a fusion.
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>>143036527
>this is what Super could have been from the start
wasted potential
fucking manchild fanbase is to blame
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>>143052918
>she's a woman, they always have the mind of a child
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>>143054773
>Random? He is literally the strongest Saiyan in the entire universe. And even he needed to be trained by Vegeta before he could go SSJ.

That's not saying much when your people aren't warriors like Universe 6. I wouldn't call that training by Vegeta, more like Vegeta was trying to piss him off to force him to be a SSJ.
>Him being gentler might actually be a reason why he could achieve the SSJ form. Wasn't it said that a SSJ needed a good heart or was that just in the dub? In any event, perhaps those who aren't dumb-monkey tier and have more human emotions can turn SSJ more easily.
Originally it was a Saiyan of pure heart, but thanks to Vegeta that's been thrown out the window completely, at least when he first obtained SSJ, he sure as shit wasn't pure of heart, unless you want to count his excuse of pure rage/hatred.
>>143054786
There is nothing to suggest that Galick Gun has any ties to the Royal Family other than the fact that Vegeta uses it. It'd have been better to say that Cabba is Vegeta's equivalent due to that and the fighting stance, and how desperate Vegeta was to make him stronger and to succeed him.

But as you said, his backstory was incredibly lazy. The point stands though that his SSJ transformation was very shoehorned in and wasn't needed at all, the same would be said of any other Saiyan in existence at this point. Just make them a SSJ and be done with it. Hell Pan is a SSJ in the womb and she's a quarter Saiyan, there is a certain point where Saiyan blood doesn't matter anymore.
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>>143054708
>Cabba, a random ass Saiyan from a Universe where they aren't even warriors
U6 Saiyans go around fighting evildoers. How are they not warriors?
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>>143054847

Gohan is not a fighter at heart. Potential-wise, he probably could've turned SSJ2 when he was 6, but he just didn't want to.

Future Trunks grew up in a hell hole and was trained by a one-armed peacenik who is not a fighter at heart.
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>Is he stronger than me?
Goddamit Goku that saiyan I MUST FIGHT FOREVER madness wont ever stop endangering the planet will it?
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>>143052863
>Mai winks at Trunks
>Trunks just grabs her hand and pulls her to his room for a much needed pounding

Damn Trunks.
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>>143054910
>It's designed fine
>No design traits of super saiyan, at all
>fur is pink
>Eyeliner
>magical clothes storage/growth
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>>143054742
Thats probably not what he even actually looks like, thats what he appears to look like to the ants around him in the multiverse because his true form would literally destroy their minds.
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>>143054938
>he sure as shit wasn't pure of heart,

His heart was pure black
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>>143054162
>Two kids shouldn't be getting romance development, it is just creepy to watch and might influence other kids watching
Man, just how fucking sad was your childhood? I may be a shitty useless faggot now, but even I had crushes on girls when I was a kid. You should know that most kids begin feeling attraction around 8-9, and in some cases like my own, much younger at the age of 4.
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>>143054969
Cabba goes around fighting evil-doers, that doesn't make them all strong evil-doers though.
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>>143054924
Bro, this is a children's program
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>>143052863
DELETE THIS
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>>143055039
Yes anon but if you want a dick a girl while you are 8 it means you are starting puberty too early but just kissing them is fine.
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>>143055039
Most kids start crushing on girls in pre-school/kindergarten.
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>>143051015

>オレさま
I have a newfound respect for Cell.

What pronoun does Frieza use?
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>>143054162
Is this post fucking real?

Anybody else feel like ever since this arc started we've been getting a lot of cross-boarders and shitposters?
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>>143054894
If that's the end I'm going to go out and jerk off toriama
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>>143053637
>>tfw Super gets dubbed and instead of changing the music Funimation just makes everyone buff
>Would you guys like it?
I would suck dicks to make this happen
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>>143054924
>muh edgy DBZ
No juan, you are the manchild
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>>143055090
I blame the Xenoverse 2 announcement lining up with this arc.
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Evil Goku is cool and all but I much rather have female Goku from the gender swap universe. That would be really fun to watch. male Chichi bullies her constantly
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>>143055171
Shut up faggot no one cares about your fap ideas, Goku must stay male.
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I really like Future Trunks' SSJ hair, it looks a lot better than Present Trunks'.
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>>143055079
>he didn't get a boner until he was 12
have fun with that E.D. in a few years
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>>143055159
but XV2 was announced weeks ago
are you talking about e3?
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Would have been better if they didn't show what happened in future right from the start. Just start arc with Trunks punching Goku.
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>>143054924
>implying edgyshit = maturity

Kill yourself, fucker.
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>>143055171
keep that in shitty poorly drawn hentai, thanks
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I liked how Goku had a casual chat with Master Quitte and Yajirobe while Trunks was suffering from his severe injuries.
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So how mad would a Vegetable be when he learned that his future waifu got killed by a carrot?
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>>143055272
>edgy
that word means nothing anymore
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>>143055058
but... but, bro... im a big child?
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>>143052036
Are you crazy? The tournament arc had arguably some of the worst animation thus far. Not all of it was as bad as the Botamo fight, but it was still bad across the board.
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>>143055313
Heh, I have to agree.
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>>143055327
Yes because animation is as bad as horribly inconsistent storytelling, in any case you're over exaggerating it
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>>143055239
I got boners when I was 11 anon.
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>>143055396
I'm not exaggerating at all, it was just terrible.
Are you implying the "storytelling" during the tournament was good?
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>>143055305
Well he didn't see it so probably a lot more calm than when he saw Beerus slap her.

I mean she did die to Kid Buu too and he didn't rage out, what's done is done, he can't change it and he wasn't personally there anyways.
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>>143055296
>Master Quitte
from what gay ass dub comes that from?
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>>143052863
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>>143055420
>Are you implying the "storytelling" during the tournament was good?
Better than the manga that's for sure.
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>>143055296
It's like how in the Buu Saga anime he casually had lunch while Videl was dying in a hospital bed.
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What made them evil?

Piccolo was corrupted by the evil of man. Same goes for Buu.

Vegeta was raised by a tyrant and then took orders from another tyrant.

Tien was taught by crane who was a dick.

There's a good explanation why all of these people who deep down had a good heart did evil things.

17 and 18 are the exception. Dr. Gero gave them super powers and they then decided to kill people for fun. Is current 18 still thinking how fun it would be to blow up a city and she's only restraining herself to not make her husbando mad? I don't understand why somebody who doesn't mind murdering innocent children would suddenly become a moral person just because some bald dwarf showed affection for her.
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>>143055660
They are teenagers with the power to blow up cities thats why they act the way they do.
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>>143055625
He also went around casually telling everybody that Cell was stronger than him and that he'd have no chance dashing all of their hopes and just laughing about it.
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>>143055660
They were designed to kill Goku but Goku was already dead, not to mention they were human experiments.

Basically they had power, resentment and no purpose so they did whatever the fuck they liked.
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>>143055660
They had super powers and are teenagers, what would you have done as a teenager, probably rob banks and blow shit up.

Besides they eventually do chill out. 18 becomes a chill wife and 17 becomes a park ranger. I wish they'd introduce 17 again in all his park ranger glory.
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>>143055660
Teenagers are shit
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>>143055660

Some scientist kidnapped you and twisted you into something above humans. As much as you love the new gained power, you were no longer what you used to be (especially with a fucking bomb inside you as a failsafe).

How mad would you be?
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>>143055682

So you're saying that it's normal for teenagers to enjoy mass murder?

>>143055731

Killing people other than Goku had nothing to do with their programming though.

>so they did whatever the fuck they liked.

Indeed. They liked killing people. It makes 18 happy to blow up preschools and hospitals. So what changed her? Being in love with Krillin shouldn't affect her other preferences. When 18 is holding Pan, does she secretly think "damn it would be really fun to rip this toddler's head of right now but I can't because I don't want to offend sweetie pie"?
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>>143055171
>cute shota boy
>calls it a girl

No one wants trap goku or femgoku. fuck off.
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>>143055660
Edgy teenagers being edgy teenagers with superpowers. Present 17 and 18 decided to settle down and mature after the Cell shit.
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What's the point in even fighting Goku Black? He's already killed everyone Trunks cares about. Let him rot in his shitty timeline while Future Trunks starts a new life in the current timeline.
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>>143055840

They already took revenge on Gero. It makes sense for them to kill him. But what do all the other people have to do with it? You don't see future Trunks go around killing innocent people and he also has plenty of reasons to be mad.
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>>143055923
No dude teenagers are edgy little shits I have done some things as a teen that would shock me today.
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>>143055923
>So what changed her?
Have you even watched the show?
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>>143055660
>Dr. Gero gave them super powers
You're missing some info there.
Gero kidnapped them, performed experiments on them which may or may not have been extremely painful and attempted to force them into being his weapons of mass destruction.
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>>143055960
>Present 17 and 18 decided to settle down and mature after the Cell shit.
That's more because there were several people who could bitchslap them back into line.
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>>143055960
There is also the fact that Krillin showing his kindness to 18 made her change a little. The guy wished for the bombs out of their chests.
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>>143055660
Dr. Gero erased their memories, they don't view themselves as human anymore.
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>>143055923
>>143055976

They killed the Z warrior because they were indirectly involved in turning them into monstrosities.

18 has a change of heart because someone (krillin) actually spared her instead of finishing her off.
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>>143056035
>Dr. Gero erased their memories
I thought that process wasn't complete which is why they killed him in the first place instead of becoming his slaves.
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>>143056067
No the ones in the mainstream timeline werent as psycho as the originals notice they have never once tried to kill the Z fighters except Goku and simply beat the shit out of them then leave.
>>
Has anybody suggested a Tuffle yet?
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>>143055982

Are you hinting at Krillin? How exactly did Krillin's relationship with 18 stop her from enjyoing murder?

It's not like 17 and 18 had a reason to believe that all humans were evil and Krillin showed them that there are also good humans. They already knew about the human world and just didn't care who they killed.

>>143055986

And? Other characters had a rough time as well. Future Trunks for instance. Not to mention that neither 17 nor 18 seem to do it because they're mad, vengeful or depressed. They're acting like they're having the time of their life.
>>
So is Botamo the most powerful machine in the DBZ multiverse?
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>>143056128
>They're acting like they're having the time of their life.
They barely show any emotion dude.
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>>143056107
No, they just killed him because they didn't like being bossed around. They don't even know their names anymore. The only memory of their past lives they seem to still have is that they were twins.
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>>143056128
I think having Marron changed her a lot. Babies can do that
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>>143049114
ask the dragon/super dragon to fix the timelines
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>>143056020
Yeah that was I meant
>Guess we can't just do whatever we want anymore. Might as well try to live normally
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>>143048555
>Beerus slaps Bulma
>Vegeta's rage is enough to get in some hits
>Black kills Future Bulma and Future Mai
>Future Trunks' rage does jack shit
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>>143039201
Because Toei and toriyama had a falling out about what color his hair should be back when he debuted in DBZ, and this time around toriyama had it be the color he originally wanted
>>
>>143056163

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_PvGv3dCMY&t=16m59s
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>>143056152
No because he is not a machine.
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>>143056192
Its because Vegeta never got a power up he was alway that strong but that was latent potential.
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>>143056115

It's not like that they never once tried to kill them. More like they couldn't.

Warnings for the future allows the mainline party to train up for the worst scenario, so they didn't get kill as quick as in future timeline.

Except for Yamcha getting jobbed by Gero
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>>143056152
yeah the bear is very strong
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>>143056192
>Trunks
>anywhere near as strong as Vegeta who lives and breathes training.
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>>143041547
he's got the same ones as Demigra
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>>143056226
I forgot the name of the Robot who clashed with Super Cyan Vegeta in universe 6.
>>
If you add nostalgia to DBS, is it as good as DBZ?
>>
>>143056295
>magetta
>robot
he's a metalman
calling him robot is racist
>>
>>143056295
Magetta
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>>143056341
Without it DBS is pretty good by Dragonball standards.
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>>143039294
The post you fucking reply to explains why Trunks doesn't think that's not Black. The last time he saw Goku in that timeline, Goku was dead and wanted to stay that way. He would have no reason to believe that is anyone else
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>>143056295
Magetta wasn't a robot he was an alien with metal skin or some shit according to Tory.
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>>143056370
Honestly how strong were the Universe 6 fighters ? Could any one of them beat the shit out of SSJ Vegito back in the Buu Saga?
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>>143052591
Just putting this out there but having a relentless killer hunt you down at every waking moment does kind of limit how much time you can spend training.
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>>143056442
Hit could.
Botamo could probably withstand the hits but not dish anything out.

The rest are fucked.
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>>143056442
considering that goku and vegeta are probably as strong or even stronger than vegetto now
only hit and beerus could beat vegetto
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>>143056474
But Base Goku eclipses his SSJ3 in the BoG movie nowadays anon and Frost was keeping up with him.

I said Buu Saga Vegito anon.
>>
Gohanks when?
SSGSS Kaioken x10 Vegito/Gogeta when?
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>>143055407
>I got boners when I was 11 anon
anon, I have some bad news for you

most boys get boners around 4-5, I know I did
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>>143056584
When you stop being such a fucking faggot
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>>143056564
Goku was holding back hard against Frost.
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>>143053497

I think he only sent a message, not that he teleported to another timeline.
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>>143056599
>around 4-5
You freak of nature.
>>143056616
Yes he needed Cyan to kick Frost's ass though.
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>>143056564
>I said Buu Saga Vegito anon.
Who eclipses SSJ3 if he can over power Super Buu.
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>>143055840
>As much as you love the new gained power, you were no longer what you used to be
eh, I don't get how upset people get in stories over "muh humanity". I would give up my humanity in a heartbeat if it meant great power
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>>143055171
>female Goku from the gender swap universe
Please Toriyama make it happen.
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>Trunks woke up only to attack the moment he saw Goku

At least they got this down. I was afraid he would just be going "Mum? Dad?"
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>>143056669
But BoG SSJ3 Goku is far stronger than Buu Saga since he is stronger than Gotenks.
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>>143056660
>Yes he needed Cyan to kick Frost's ass though.
no he didn't
both goku and vegeta only went ssj on frost
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>>143041559
That took a lot of patience to under stand, but that comic is adorable and hilarious
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>>143055660
I mean, wouldn't you just fuck around blowing shit up if you knew no one could stop you? if I could just fly around and shoot shit up, that would be really fun.
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>>143056660
>Yes he needed Cyan to kick Frost's ass though.
You what?
Frost isn't Frieza you know.
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Damn, the new arc sounds good. I've watched all of dbz and both battle of the gods films.

What episode can I start off in super without missing anything?
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>>143056660
>>around 4-5
>You freak of nature
Is that not normal? I remember trying on my dads big shirt over the air vents once and getting annoyed because my dick was standing up from the breeze
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>>143056756
I wouldn't go around murdering weak innocents for fun
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>>143056783
Whichever was the start of the tournament arc, that's basically when the real Super starts.
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>>143056820
But if no one could stop you, why not? No consequences, so why wouldn't you?
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>>143056783

28
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>>143056820
pussy
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>>143056820
Think of it like this, you're a teenager with barely any memory of your past life beyond the other person being related to you but you still have the usual teenager needs and wants, you have no money yet no one can oppose you if you take it and you have no family or friends to lose otherwise.

Would you really care about taking a life?
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>>143051256
>Conjecture: the post
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>>143056783
Episode 28, it's like a day or week after RoF IIRC.
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>>143056964
Well, the Bibidi part.
SSB makes SSJ4 look like a joke.
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>>143055660

>implying 18's fetish isn't short bald men who are weaker than she is
>turns into an absolute dom freak every time they fuck

How the fuck else do you explain her crush on Krillin, she has to have a fetish for men like that. It just turned into something more later on and now she likes being a housewaifu.
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>>143056851
>>143056894
>>143056977


Thanks. Is there any extra stuff that's relevant and not included in the films but in the anime?

Also, how the hell did they turn 2 films into damn near 30 episodes?
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>>143057057
Just some little scenes with Champa that's about it.
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>>143057057
>Thanks. Is there any extra stuff that's relevant and not included in the films but in the anime?

Nope. There were some light changes but the outcome was the same. The only important detail is that Gohan decides to train again becase he got rekt.

>Also, how the hell did they turn 2 films into damn near 30 episodes?

Filler and longer (and bad animated...VERY BAD ANIMATED) battles.
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>>143057057
>how the hell did they turn 2 films into damn near 30 episodes?
Filler episodes and stretching out shit like Goku and Vegeta's training. None of this is relevant though.
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>>143056295

Magetta and he was based, kept going like a champ until Vegeta hurt his feeling, the humongous asshole.
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