Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1578

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みょうぞきちいちばんがるこい！

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Well no answer last thread, maybe someone will know this time.

What's the difference between -てあげてください and -てくれて? I've seen both of those at least. Was always taught あげて is only when you give though but seems not to be the case.

>>143013176
Big ears.

>>143013340
Big ears are ちょうかわいい

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>>143012944
ゲー...このスレ画像ってきもいな...塵。

DEKINAY

anon-kun to nihongo de hanashita

im sorry im at my parents and they dont have jap input installed

did i do particles right

To the anon who asked about text hookers on Linux quite a few threads earlier: I've made ITHVNR work on Wine, here's the build: https://a.pomf.cat/zbiwsf.zip

I reported the actual issue to the Wine maintainers, but I'm not sure if (or when) it will be fixed.

>>143013336
Formality.

>>143013336
Try to find an example of someone saying ~くれて as a command reddit kun

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Is there any way I can move my progress in Anki from one computer to another? I have to go to another state for a week so I'll have to use my laptop.

>>143013547
Yes.

>>143013547
Use the built in synchronize function?

>>143013509
>>143013501
So you're saying -てあげてください is basically a polite command then?

>>143013336
Also, you probably should't be trying to learn from that picture considering the multiple instances of extra characters in it

>>143013594
あげて means you are asking someone to do something as a favor for a third person

>>143013579
Isn't that only for porting your progress to phones?

>>143013692
It works with any version of anki.

ｄｊｔさん、
「のち」と「あと」はどうちがうですか？両方は「後」です。

>>143013659

>あげて means you are asking someone to do something as a favor for a third person

But that's not what's happening at >>143013336

Full context: http://g.e-hentai.org/s/2437b76979/894573-14

So it seems to double for てください / くれる then?

Suddenly Japanese is in multiple fonts for me. Is there a way to fix this? I'm using Chrome.

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>>143013896
Goddamnit

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>it's actually true, the episode

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>>143013812
>ｄｊｔさん
あ-あのん..何言ってんの...。

How many kanji a day do you guys usually learn?

>>143012944
what does フリガナ mean?

I'm trying to buy a certain album and i don't know what is this

>>143014200
I learn them through vocab. Tried RTK and it just messed up my retention. Not planning to write anyways since my sole reason for learning was to read manga/VNs so I guess I didn't need to learn production.

ごめん悪い日本語。

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>>143013812
まあ、別なトイレ同じくそでしょw

>>143014200
３０

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>>143014326

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>>143014326

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>>143014469
>>143014477
I don't

get

it

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Can someone transcribe this word? Can't find it through radicals or google

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>>143014597
"what does this mean"
"it means ___"
"分からないよー”

>>143014680
it means you don't know?

correct?

What exactly is http://core6000.neocities.org/?
People sometimes link it as a web version of the core deck, but the translations are different from the ones in the deck from the guide and they're different from the ones on jisho, too.
Where did these translations come from? They seem better than the ones in the deck. Could there be some different version of the core deck than the one in the guide?

>>143014673
平穏, you dumb idiot.

>>143014791
thx :)

>>143014776
自殺してください

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>>143014776
Not sure if you're joking or not but it means furigana, they just showed you. Install this please

firefox: http://rikaisama.sourceforge.net/
chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/rikaikun/jipdnfibhldikgcjhfnomkfpcebammhp?hl=en

>>143014921
no u

>>143013497
Where's your bug report?

>>143014921
????

>>143014921
自分を殺してください。

>>143015010
you heard me

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>>143015033

>>143014921
>>143015029
Which of these two should I use if I want to jokingly/memingly tell someone to die?

>>143014964
what the fuck is this furigana shit?

>>143015097
Why not bite your belly button and die?

>>143013822
The third "person" is perhaps the hair

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>>143015159
ですよね

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>tfw you fell for the don't learn katakana meme

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>>143013497

>>143015326
Recognized 良 though

>>143013497
You are years late ;_;
Hopefully some learners will benefit from that

>>143013822
The picture has multiple mistakes in it stop obsessing over it

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>>143015326

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>>143015332
>hanahira
>that ITH inferface
>that font
>that image on the right that isn't even centered properly
>linux in general
>866 KB
>1290x788

>>143015326
Just end my suffering, senpai.

>>143015332
Who is the cutie on the right?

>>143015851
Osho Rajneesh, do you even?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajneesh

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皆なら何をしてるのか

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>>143015635

>>143015925
Had no idea what he looked like, along with pretty much most people I've read from and about. Don't really care to much about the individuals themselves as much as their work. Decent beard, though.

>>143016064
日本おしている

Anyone else watching ゆとりですがなにか?

It's about three guys who were born in 1987, belonging to the Yutori generation, basically millennials to us. They are called Yutori in Japan in reference to when the Japanese government installed the Yutori education policy which is more relaxed, having less hours and content in the curriculum.

>>143016064
何もない。
4chanにシットポーストするながらたった一人でお部屋の中に死んでるだけさ。
もう死にたいんだ。生活って痛み。

>>143016227
私も

>>143016490
その気持ちって分かるよ

So I'm starting to use Anki. It has the default at 20 per day. Should I stick to this, or do people recommend changing this to a different number?

How can I tell if 汝ら is うぬら or わいら?
Or 己 おのれ or おの (or the several other variations)?

>>143016064
ドラマを観る
99.9刑事専門弁護士05話

>>143016383
Hmm... sounds interesting, I'll take a look at the first episode

>>143016502
わたくしも。疲れた。永遠に寝たい。

>>143016615
Do whatever feels right to you?
I suspend everything and then unsuspend however many new cards I want to add each day... but I'm pretty sure I am in the minority because my way is pretty inefficient -- maybe.

>>143016762
>I suspend everything and then unsuspend however many new cards I want to add each day
できない

>>143013110
>tfw fell for the がんばるぞいのメメ

So, does anyone have that DJT OP picture by Chad (or was it Jamal?) from maybe 1-2 months ago? I couldn't find it in the archive

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>>143016967

>>143017013
It's not this one, it was (badly) made with Paint

>>143016851
>できない
そうか...どうしてそなことと言う？

>>143016754

I've only watched the first episode myself. I think it's pretty spot on when it comes to portraying millenials.

>>143015097
>please kill yourself
>please commit suicide

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>>143016967
>>143017074
i made that one but i'm not jamal or whoever you think i am, just an anon.

>>143017102
fuck. i should have put an ん in there somewhere or something because i was looking for an explanation.
i guess you're right.
できない ;_;

>>143016762
ぜんぜん疲れていません, でも お腹空いた。何かを食べたい。

>>143016967
Why do you want it

>>143017228
食べるのが尽
...yeah, that's not right -- how should I said "eating is exhausting"?

Anyone here reading the monogatari LNs? Are they interesting?

>>143017636
It's Nisio fucking Isin dude, do you need to ask? Did you get into weebdom yesterday? It's like going into outer /a/ and asking "Is Neon Genesis Evangelion interesting?"

>>143017676
I don't know shit about the anime or the author. I know it's a popular anime so I'm interesting in reading the source material.

So I take it you're saying yes. ok

>>143017431
食べるは大変です, maybe? I'm ridiculously new at this.

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What is this?

>>143017792
Korean?

>>143017792
急げ

>>143017676
But NGE is literally a meme

>>143017792
急げ

>>143017835
>>143017841

Thanks

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>>143017792
>can't read that kanji

>>143012944
So I wanna watch anime and japanese cinema raw and just generally impress people by speaking Japanese.
Should I just learn Core2k/6k and grammar and get on with it?
Are there any benefits at all of learning kanji?
I mean, I intend on learning at least hiragana, but kanji seems like such a drag.

>>143017971
The only possible way of learning Japanese without kanji is actually going there and speaking to Japanese people for years.
Watching TV won't be enough practice, you will need reading.

>>143017971
>Should I just learn Core2k/6k and grammar and get on with it?
Yes.
>Are there any benefits at all of learning kanji?
You'll automatically learn kanji by doing core

>>143017431
食べるとして疲れる
食べるのは疲れてることだ
t. nibongo マスタ

>>143014981
40476 on wine bugzilla, the original report (#1 in the discussion) isn't mine, though.

>>143018118
ありがとう先輩

>>143018044
>You'll automatically learn kanji by doing core
Do people really do that?
I could see things like ... fuck, I can't think of any examples right now.

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全くこのスレのグイドには何人もに読まないな

>>143018118
Japanese people don't say this. Stop giving advice.

>>143018044
Shitfuck.
So the link in the OP for core2k is in kanji?
Is there vocab in hiragana?

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>>143016967
always happy to help

>>143018189
>Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Open a new bug, someone powertripped.

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>>143018304
>グイド

>>143018304
>グイド

>>143018323
Do it better, poser

>>143018264
>Do people really do that?
Yea, sure. A lot do. I did.

>>143018329
Furigana are included

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>>143018369
fucking spelling mistakes i meant ガイド

>>143018380
>poser
pardon

>>143018409
Do you get tripped up by similar looking Kanji the first time you see a new one? Is that normal?
Perhaps I'm trying to read too fast and don't pay enough attention to the kanji's...
誰
維
難
I'm not implying these are anything alike... I'm just implying that my eye is initially drawn to the simple turkey primitive on the right.

man why is learning grammar so hard. I'm having a fairly easy time with kanji and vocab but I just keep stalling on grammar, still only on TaeKim basic. is there an easier way to go through this? does reading help?

>>143018524
Fuck off back to r/"learn"japanese, RTK retard

>>143018380
The new guy did a better job than you. >>143017746

食べるのは大変だ

>>143018524
>do people get tripped up by similar kanji
Yes. All the time. Eventually though you'll recognize them as the right kanji right away.

>>143018579
You won't have much fun reading if you're not even past TK basic.
You can try a more verbose resource like Genki or Let's learn Japanese basic.

>>143018524
>turkey primitive

lol wtf? Is this the shit RTK teaches you or something?

>>143018607
Still better than you.

can some one help me with this link?
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/filedata/fetch?id=4933133
I can't make it work

>>143018603
I've never been to r/, breh.
I got on the RTK train because of kanji.koohii popping up in a google search a couple years ago.

>>143018660
Yep.

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>>143018579
bud go check the cor and start downloading. you don't have to stick with one source

>>143018660
隹 means old bird and radicals are also called primitive, what do you find strange?

取り立ての野菜
脱ぎたてのパンツ

>>143018804
That people actually waste time learning this shit.

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http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1181588731

Wow, this is like the opposite of the western Yahoo Answers questions

>>143018870
Yeah, because it isn't like Japanese don't use radicals to break down kanji or anything.
http://kanji.jitenon.jp/cat/bushu08006.html
Fuck off. The only one wasting their time here is you.

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>no service for kuso gaijin
The fuck is wrong with them? payment processing stuff? muh copyright issues?

It's like they don't want to take money from non-pure yamato japanese

What's your weekly amphetamine usage, /djt/?

>>143018524
Not really. If you're asking whether I pay attention to the primitives, then of course I do. Everyone does, eventually. I doubt there's anything that RtK or whatever teaches that you won't learn on your own just exposing yourself to kanji, or vocabulary, rather. Except wierd names for primitives, perhaps. The issue is rather which way is more efficient, time-wise.

>>143017971
>So I wanna just generally impress people by speaking Japanese.
>Are there any benefits at all of learning kanji?
Well, gee, if your goal is to impress people then perhaps it might be a good idea not to be fucking illiterate, eh?

>>143018329
>Is there vocab in hiragana?
No, because that would be fucking stupid.
>掛ける -> かける
>欠ける -> かける
>駆ける -> かける
>賭ける -> かける
>翔る -> かける
>架ける -> かける
Good luck telling which one of these words is on the front of your card with only hiragana.

And that's not even an exceptional case. Here's another example:
>書く -> かく
>格 -> かく
>角 -> かく
>掻く -> かく
>核 -> かく
>画 -> かく
>欠く -> かく
>各 -> かく
>佳句 -> かく
>確 -> かく
>舁く -> かく
>斯く -> かく
>殻 -> かく
>膈 -> かく
>隔 -> かく

>>143018985
Stable

>>143018985
I prefer fish oil instead

>>143018910
>4th toe of the right leg
well that's oddly specific.

>>143018944
Holy shit you're mad.

I can read Japanese just fine and never bothered learning that shit. Enjoy wasting your time.

>>143019056
That's the toe you catch a tiger by.

>>143018965
While the Internet may appear to be an International space, trade is not that simple and it may be more of a headache and not worth it from the point of view of the company to sell to an international market.

>>143018380
pretty much anything would be better than >>143018118

like even 食べる疲れる would be better

>>143019114
>That's the toe you catch a tiger by.
i dont get it

>>143018579
You're having problems with grammar? Really? I've always found it to be the easiest thing about learning Japanese. Like, the grammar is ridiculously simple. Even simpler than English (and as a non-native English speaker, English is extremely easy to learn).

>>143019324
I remember when I was this new.

>>143019100
So fuck off and do that, troll.

>>143019156
Here is a example you guys can see used by a native.
http://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/1266726.html

>>143019218
どちらにしようかな
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FriwUcWLp9o

>>143019324
A lot of people have the experience, often before they realise that they don't understand remotely as much as they thought they did. Japanese grammar can be deceptive like that.

>>143019114
I suppose you are right.

That's the thing when you are learning a foreign language, it's difficult to get fresh content easily, without pirating

ITT : The Dunning Kruger Effect.

>>143019419
>dunning kruger: the post

>>143019455
Please do not project

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「事情」と「都合」の違いは教えて下さい！

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>>143019324
>Like, the grammar is ridiculously simple.
首を洗って待ってるよ (笑う)

you didn't see anything.

>>143019543
denied

>>143019554
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1431589774

>>143019324
I honestly don't know, it's more like a feeling of not being sure if I understand what I'm learning. I just finished the particles with verb section and I have no idea if I really got what he was talking about or not.

>>143019386
>Here is a example you guys can see used by a native.

But that's not what your sentence was

>>143019797
Dude I'm behind this post >>143018118 and even I can see how to change that sentence to mean what anon asked for.

食事をすると疲れる

Core 2k/6k is so shitty, you have to spend a lot of time searching for the actual meaning of the words because it always gives the vaguest definition possible.
According to that piece of shit 実施, 実現 and 実行 are the same thing, just like 会う, 逢う and 遭う or もらう and くれる

>>143019356
>>143019386
>>143019557
Yeah, I am new, but so far it all feels very comprehensible to me. I guess I'll enjoy the feeling for a while before I inevitably find out just how mistaken I am. On the other hand, maybe it does feel easier to me because my native language is objectively more complex when it comes to grammar. Are you all native English speakers?
>>143019730
Well, I guess you can only practice to get rid of that feeling.

>>143019897
so fix it

>>143019897
>blaming core for japanese's similar words
cute

>>143019930
The basics of Japanese are very simple as long as you don't try to translate it literally into one other language, any bilingual learner has that advantage. However, once you get into reading native material you'll see just how much practice you need to keep up with "real" Japanese.

>>143019946
those are completely different words though, they only share 50% of themselves with eachother

>>143019946
Sure, if your teacher for whatever possible subject can't teach you well it's the subject's fault. Makes sense.

There was a few other educational type videos suggested after the above posted one.
The ones on this channel are pretty cute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6gbSp4zQek
Coming across random videos like that with such a tiny amount of views almost feels like eavesdropping on a private conversation.

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>>143020040
>as long as you don't try to translate it literally into one other language
>any bilingual learner has that advantage

だ-だよね..へへ..

>>143020040
That's true for literally any language, though, although there are languages where even basics can give you a real headache. That's what I meant by saying I thought that Japanese is simple.

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>>143020125
can a bilingual anon please give me a quick rundown on what this really means..

>>143020360
dont translate, feel
monolinguals generally have a harder time doing that

>>143019897
Not sure if you can't read or I have a different version of the deck but it distinguishes 遭う and there is hardly any confusion between 実現、実施、実行
My deck is 2+ years old so I'm guessing you're retarded and can't read. Even edict doesn't give any insight as to there being a difference between 遭う and 遇う. But if you have to whine about that instead of just searching it then you might as well give up already.

>>143019797
That wasn't my sentence, I merely found something in a similar used as a real life example. Maybe instead of being pointlessly defensive about something inconsequential it would be practical to take the opportunity to learn something different.

>>143020076
>if your teacher
You are your teacher. That's being an autodidact in a nutshell.

>>143020392
>dont translate, feel
That isn't how the brain handles language, despite whatever bonus confidence this feel good delusions may bring you.

>>143020360
>>143020392
That's true, although it probably doesn't really help. You have to understand that you're not looking for literal equivalent of the word/phrase/whatever, that's usually impossible. Or it is possible, but it sounds clumsy due to differences in languages. You have to look for *meaning* and replicate it as closely as you can while preserving flow of the given language etc.

>>143020508
t. monolingual

>>143020540
Stop bringing your trash into /a/.
This isn't /sp/ or /tv/ or /b/. Have some fucking respect, you are a guest here.

>>143020508
>That isn't how the brain handles language
So babies translate into what?

Feeling/visualizing just like learning a new word in one's native language seems like the way to go.

>>143019324
>Even simpler than English (and as a non-native English speaker, English is extremely easy to learn).


>that glorious feel when you aren't a disgusting obese American

>that glorious feel when you don't have the easiest language ever created as your native language

>that glorious feel when you don't feel retarded whenever you are exposed to actual difficult grammar like the retarded Americans ITT

>that glorious feel when you don't sound like you're moaning whenever you try to speak a foreign language

>>143020508
>That isn't how the brain handles language, despite whatever bonus confidence this feel good delusions may bring you.
Once you get good at a language you stop translating it to your native language and deriving meaning from that.
When people start learning a language and they face a difficult sentence they attempt to translate it word for word, grammar structure for grammar structure. This is different from "feeling a sentence."
In Japanese it's more important to learn to "feel" sentences from the get go than with other languages - especially because it uses an entirely different grammatical syntax than what people are used to from Germanic languages.

The brain absolutely does have both the function to "translate" a sentence and "feel" a sentence.

>>143020594
>implying /djt/ is /a/

ayy lmao

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>>143020392
>>143020510
>>143020695
分かってる。ありがとうね、これって見てる

Why is there a separate word for 渡仏
I swear Japanese has the largest number of pointless vocab of any language on Earth.

>>143020660
If you have spare 20 years to learn Japanese then go for it.

>>143020508
>That isn't how the brain handles language, despite whatever bonus confidence this feel good delusions may bring you.

Mine does, though. I don't even bother learning many rules when getting familiar with a new language, just the basics. I figure the rest of it based on how it sounds to me, how it fits into the general structure. Every language has a rhythm of sorts and if you can feel it, it's going to be much easier for you.

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>>143020831
>Going to france

>>143020834
>he feel for the "babies are better at learning languages than adults" meme

>>143020831
>I swear Japanese has the largest number of pointless vocab of any language on Earth.
That would be German, anon.

>>143020922
Does German have a dedicated word for going to France?

>>143020922
>take two words
>write them without a space
>look i made a new word
I hate this mindset.

>>143020831
Because the Japanese are huge franceboos, so much that they even have their own disease for when they find out that the real France is a shithole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

>>143020957
Yes, Blitztkrieg.

>>143020957
It wouldn't surprise me, they seem to have a word for everything.
But it kind of makes sense of Japanese to have a word for going to France. Aren't they extremely fascinated with the country for some reason?

>>143020957
You could literally take Frankreich and Besuch (visit) and combine them into Frankreichbesuch.

>>143020957
It's hard to consider specified kanji compounds like that to be individual words.
渡欧
渡印
渡台
渡唐
渡日
渡中
渡伊
渡星
渡比
渡英
渡豪
渡独

You get it.

>>143021113
wait guys i think i see a pattern here

Which has more words, Mandarin or Japanese?

>>143021113
>渡印
>toin
>to in
>going TO INdia
guys I think I see a pattern here

>成すは～です
Can anyone explain this form or expression?

>>143021113
>渡比
Is this a thing?

>>143020901
>>he feel for the

Why would you think so? 20 years is roughly how long it takes babies to reach high language proficiency (on average of course and high means a good understanding of archaic and highly specialized and academic vocab and grammar).

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>>143013147
>Some of them even go as far as to use kanji that are don't even exist in Japanese or make up their own. Dicks.
>Dicks.

Kek'd
I love you.

>>143021208
Dude honestly I don't even know what your point was or which aspect of it I tried to talk down on. I'm sure whatever you're talking about makes sense, after all we're all smart guys here.

>>143021317
I didn't make the image. If my file manager is to be trusted, I saved it in 2013, but I don't know where from.

>>143020508
Oh look it's the autist again

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%94%E8%A1%8C%E6%80%9D%E6%83%B3
I hope you know all of this by now, anon.

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>>143021317
>>143021387

あなたは日本語を覚えることができても
幸せになることはできない

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>>143021565
酷いな..

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>>143021387
>>143021520
It's ok, I still love you

>>143021565
まあ、そうだな。だって、もう幸せ至ってる

Why are we learning this shit? Won't we all grow out of video games and anime someday?

>>143021893
Not me.

>>143021565
日本語を覚えられない上に
幸せにもなれない;_;

>>143021893
You never grow out of a hobby, at most you pretend to become an adult, feel shame for your hobby and give it up due to social conformity.

>>143021893
When I'm fluent I'll get a sex change and move to Japan to live a million years.

>>143021964
Sure, because you would still enjoy watching Teletubbies or playing with toys if not for social comformity, right?

>>143021893
I'm a translator/interpreter. I would like to add Japanese to my repertoire, so it doesn't matter if I stop liking anime for some reason.

>>143019324
People are replying to this like it is (You) bait but you are 100% correct.

>>143022049
conformity*

>>143021893
I'm 24 and I still haven't so I doubt it.

>>143022049
I didn't like that shit even when I was a kid

>>143022169
24 is still a baby. Hell, I'm 30 and I still think that I'm a big baby. Anime is love; anime is life.
..and I think that maybe there might be a lonely 30+ unmarried Japanese woman who would be interesting in getting to know a gainjin, if you know what I mean.

>>143022095
Depends on your idea of grammar. If it's not grammar then which aspect of Japanese makes it such a hard language to master? Or are you saying all the linguists calling Japanese difficult are wrong?

I'm pretty sure the whole figuring out stuff from context is part of grammar unless there's a different term for it I've never heard.

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>>143022226
>not liking teletubbies
あんたって変な人だね...いや、宇宙人でしょ

>>143020831
渡米
渡加
渡独
渡仏
渡韓
渡中
et.c.
It's more that Japan has a separate kanji for a lot of countries

>>143022403
>which aspect of Japanese makes it such a hard language to master?
literally kanji

figuring out stuff from context is a don't think feel thing that comes around on its own eventually
I used to not be able to do it, but now I can, and I don't really know how I got there since all I did was do kanji flashcards and watch anime for 7 months before getting into actual books

>>143022403
Japanese grammar is hard to get to producing level because you basically have to learn how to make every type of statement from scratch, but it's not that hard to just get to the level where you can understand basic sentences.

That said it's probably still harder than most other languages, but it takes a lot less time than like reaching adult level vocabulary

>>143022589
This. My Japanese professor told us this during our first class: "I have good and bad news for you. The bad news is that kanji is probably the most difficult writing system in the world. The good news is that everything else in Japanese is primitive."

>>143022625
I think the idea is that it's actually way easier to get to that producing level than it is for other languages, considering there is pretty much only 1 conjugation you have to learn and like 3 irregular basic verbs. It's much faster to get to the point where you know what to say instead of having to calculate it out in your head. Nouns and adjectives have no declensions.
It's very alien to English speakers but it's definitely not complex.

How easy is it to get back into studying cards when I haven't studied in half a year?

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>>143022942

>>143013822
This context helps
I'm learning so much japanese right now hell yeah compelling content

>>143022830
>having a Japanese professor

top kek

laugh at him, people

>>143022942
it should be alright? i don't know, go and find out

>>143022876
It's also easier in that the grammar is more relaxed and so it's easier to make sentence fragments and have them be legit, but just look at how often people fuck up は/が for instance to see that it isn't all that easy

>>143017792
I just realized け and ケ pretty much look the same

>>143023200
no?

>>143023340
Read more

>>143023340
watch more anime

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幼女だけど質問あるかい？　あるなら答えません。

>>143021893
It might be difficult to understand but learning a language may allow you to appreciate things that where not originally part of your target.

I was in for the anime, manga and video games just like everyone else but five years later I enjoy reading a regular book, reading the news or watching shows in Japanese just as much.

With each language I am learning, it feels like I am developing a new perspective on life and I love that.

都合は、「つく」か「つかない」か、もしくは「良い」か「悪い」かで答えます。
「今回は、どうしても都合がつかないんだ」、
「都合がつくようだったら連絡してくれ」

Which of the thousands of possible meanings of つく do these phrases use?

People always complain about kanji but the cases where kanji aren't used are always the worst.

>>143020360
Rei was my waifu as a kid. Good memories.

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>>143023613
>あるなら答えません

>>143023651
While verbs like つく, or more eponymously, かける, have a lot of different nuances, it really only has one basic meaning. Try catching that meaning instead of worrying about "which" version is being used at the moment.

>>143023651
The entire expression is in edict

>>143021893
>Won't we all grow out of video games and anime someday?
no

>>143023651
At the point where you understand what 都合がつく means, you stop worrying about it and keep going. Like >>143023829 said, 付く has essentially one meaning that is pretty abstract so it's pointless to try to pin down so precisely with English translations. The Japanese dictionary entry should tell you as much.

https://kotobank.jp/word/付く

#6 describes the usage here. The definition all but literally uses 都合がつく as its example for the meaning. Now after reading that your response will likely be "wow, looks like I already knew what it fucking meant, why did I even check a dictionary?" and you would be right.

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Daily game of "is it Japanese or Chinese?"
if anyone seriously responds "Japanese" I'm gonna laugh

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this is a short vn right? how much longer do you think it'd take to finish if i got to here in 3 hours

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>>143024981
dude your spoiler gave it away
そのため このゲームってつまらないよ

>>143024981
Japanese

>>143024981
>he doesn't immediately recognize 神奈川県 and 横須賀市

>>143024981

Jap

>>143025189
It takes a Japanese person 2 hours to read it. I don't remember the plot well enough to help you more than that.

>>143025348
im at the part in the very beginning where they are helping the blue hair girl with her homework

>>143025189
You expect people to be able to tell at which point in the story you are based on a single sentence?

>>143025417
I can tell you that once you get to the lunch break you're like a quarter in.

>>143025189
12 more hours

頑張れ

>>143014783
It's an export of my personal deck which has some of the poorer translations fixed.

Maybe I could finish converting the kana-only words to kanji and convince the Pastebin maintainer to replace the current Core.

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>うわぎ
>Figure it should be pronounced "u-wa-gi"
>Sounds like "wa-ni" no matter how many times I listen to it
I feel as though I've missed something crucial here.

Should I be worried?

>>143025853
"Gi" sometimes gets pronounced like that.

>>143025853
Yeah, you've missed basic listening comprehension.

How do I leave only a single card type in a deck? I want to delete Cloze cards in the DoJG deck but when I select those and delete them, it deletes the Recognition ones too.

>>143025853
You just need to get used to the nasally pronunciation that some Japs use for voiced consonants.

>>143025853
It's the gn/ng sound you make at the end of running for example. You should've also noticed this with some 業 words.

>>143025905
Open the deck browser, select your deck, select a card, click "Cards..."

Now look at the top left and there should be two tabs with X's on them. Click the X on the card type you want to get rid of and it will remove every card of that type from your deck.

>>143025993
助かった、アノンくん

>>143025853
g- sounds are often said in a way that sounds more like /ŋ/ than a hard /g/

-u sounds are basically never stressed and often too subtle for dirty anglos to recognize because they think there needs to be an "oo"

>>143025885
>>143025924
Oh thank god. I was worried that I was just imagining it. Is there a particular rule for when it's muddied like that I should look for, or will I need to stick to memorizing it.

>>143025946
>You should've also noticed this with some 業 words.
It stuck out to me a few times, but the voices changed often enough that I had trouble figuring out if it was deliberate.

Thanks.

>>143026079
You're welcome. I only just learned how to do it the other day. There should be a more obvious way of doing it.

>>143026136
there's nothing to memorize really
it's quite distinct from なにぬねの

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Ah, they know...

>>143025853
I see these cars a lot with images and voices but I have no idea which deck it is. Anyone wanna tell me?

>>143026126
that's just う is ɯ/ʊ [rounded] not u

>>143026136
>Is there a particular rule for when it's muddied like that I should look for, or will I need to stick to memorizing it.
I don't know that there's a rule that certain words should be pronounced like that. I think it's more likely just a regional thing.

For instance, hover over the word with Rikaisama and press "f" and you'll notice that the "g" sound is pronounced very clearly:
上着

>>143026340
The one the guide tells you to use, with images enabled.

>>143026340
It's Core 6K, but with the image pack attached

If you followed the instructions in the guide, you should be able to download them without any problem.

>>143026126
>-u sounds are basically never stressed and often too subtle for dirty anglos to recognize because they think there needs to be an "oo"
I've never had any problems with that.

t. bong

>>143026419
yeah it's really only an issue if you're braindead

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how do you feel about using two vocab decks at the same time

>>143026575
(using two decks for vocab in general, not at the same time. what the fuck am i talking about)

>>143026575
Wouldn't it make more sense to do something supplementary instead?

>>143026575
I do 2k/6k and a mining deck if that counts.

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出来るのかね

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>>143026728
1. a
2. b
3. a
4. a
5. a

Any way to reorder all words in a deck? For some reason my mining deck is skipping a bunch of words multiple times even though they are not suspended and I don't recall reordering them.

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How old is /djt/?

>>143026451
>ITT hikki neets call people braindead

>>143027365
平成4年に生まれた

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>>143027365
ホントです

>>143026728
what is this from?

>>143027365
37

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>>143026981
Yeah
>>143027702
Shin kanzen master

Here's a much harder one

>>143026575
Pointless. Pre-made vocab decks like Core are supposed to prep you for reading so you don't need to look up every single word you see and hopefully at least know one or two words in most sentences.

Once you've started reading, Core loses its purpose. Because the words in Core are so common, you will run into them all before long anyway, at which point you can just mine them rather than waiting for them to show up in Core.

>>143027365
二十三

>>143027849
1. は
2.1 は 2.2 が
3　が
4 が
5 が
?

>>143028077
>4 が
Or maybe this should be は　

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>>143027849
1. は
2. が、は
3. は
4. は
5. が

>>143027849
It's a good book series. I have the N3 読解 right here actually, about halfway through it. Which one is that?

>>143028077
>>143028169
Depending on your final answer to 4 you get 3/6 or 4/6

>>143028267
4/6

>>143028281
near the end of N1 grammar
The は/が questions are definitely silly hard compared to the rest of the book

>>143027849
1. が
2. が、は
3. は
4. は
5. は

>>143028303
Let me try again
1. は
2.1 が 2.2 は
3　が
4 は
5 が

>>143028395
>>143028400
Shits hard right?
The answers are は、は、は、は、が、が

>>143028470
dumb fucking language
i guess it makes sense in retrospect

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>>143027365
十九

>>143028584
red pilled as fuck

it is a bad habit to keep using って in conversation instead of は or is it alright

>>143028805
what does って mean to you vs は

>>143027365
６９歳

>>143027365
１８歳です

>>143028805
私っていつもってってばっかりつかってるって
日本人にって通じればいいって

>>143024455
Thanks, anon, I think I finally got the gist of how つく works.

>>143027849
>see this
>start to write up the answers
>finish them
>see what other people posted before posting mine
>see this post >>143028470
>had all correct but I'm too late
>nobody will ever believe me

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>>143028857
dude i have no real clue i just don't like putting は and が..笑

>>143028923
alright then if what you said is true then i'll continue to use it (only in casual conversations)
ありがとうね

>>143021565
俺は幸い幸せなことがいっぱい

Why aren't you learning Chinese instead, DJT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3uhyMxw7rM

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>>143029017
it's okay you can do this one instead

>>143029199
有没有必要

>>143029231
1 ga ha ga ha ga
2 ga ga ga ga ha ga ha

>>143029199
I had to navigate through a bunch of chinese websites the other day and damn, they could really benefit from another hanzi simplification reform because.

>>143029231
1 がはがはが
2 ががががはがが

>>143029231
1. がはががが
2. はははがはがが

>>143029457
-2

>>143029484
-1 pretty good
>>143029515
you got the first section

>first animus of the season are ending
Fuck yeah, finally new anime to watch instead of rewatching old stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lno7Q-KLpl0

>>143029199
because both the language and the country are disgusting

>>143030000
i like to watch SoL type shows as they air, and leave the more plot-focused ones for until after they finish because they're more binge friendly
i think that's the best of both worlds
but then again my backlog is still full of older anime that is probably going to be more interesting than the seasonal stuff that ends up fading away

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>>143030000
本当？面白いな..でも この情報って何を使ってるのかな..

>>143021893
>started to learn Japanese for Animu and Mango
>learning Japanese now to read LN, books, news and work and to watch EVA in raw :_:
Even if you grow out you benefit from learning a language

>>143030141
what happened to this guy after this

>>143030237
idk the language sounds pretty nice in music

the country is just about irredeemable though

>>143030360
Forced to 刺身.

>>143030427
>刺身
>pierce body
whew

>>143030397
That song at the very least sounds like absolute trash.

/djt/, you acknowledge the fact that Flying Witch is the AOTS, right?

>>143030719
its bakuon actually thx 4 playing

>>143030829
what a stupid ass question, i just checked with rikaikun. please excuse me

>>143030880
stupid ass question for a stupid ass thread dont be embarassed

>>143030880
許さない

>>143030534
it sounds wacky and cool

here's a good one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE_qWcy0Hs4

>>143030719
It's Mayoiga for me
It's the only anime I've watched this season
Just started episode 2

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that chair when learning japanese is the only reason you have to get out of bed in the... whatever point in the day it is when you wake up

Chatting Now
ガチでカシマシ　Never Ending Girls' Talk
就業チャイムまで待てない
遅刻はしても早退はNon Non Non!
精一杯Study After School

Read these lyrics, anon. Your Japanese proficiency is irrelevant, you'll still understand every single nuance of these complex words written in ローマ字.

You can learn Japanese. 出来る！

>>143031409
このカキコはとってもうっとうしいよ。

>>143030719
didn't watch
>>143030747
stopped watching after 6 eps or so

About 2 weeks in and Anki is taking like 2 hours every day for radicals and 2k/6k now. If you guys learned a card the day before and forget it the next, do you click on Again (<10m) or Hard (2d)? I always click again so shit ends up taking forever.