Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1577

it's fucking muri

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アニメ化ぞい子を強姦したい

>>142963906
You need to get a new pen that one's drying out

>>142964118
I FINALLY FOUND WHERE SHE'S FROM!

Now I'm off to some 妄想な目茶苦茶セックス
with her.

I can't seem to distinguish the difference between using に vs を. Tae Kim's definition of the two are similar in my perspective. Are they interchangable? Can anyone clear me up on how these particles work? Perhaps a layman's explanation. I'm just that autistic and english isn't my first language.

>>142963906
>でお

>>142964612
post what part of the tae kim explanation is unclear to you

>in b4 "all of it"

>>142964671

全て

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>>142964740
why would you even go there, schadenfreude?

>>142964671
I have a clear understanding for を but に is hazy for me. I don't get how it's used. I mean for me を is directed at the object while に is 'towards'?

みょうのぎちいちざんびゃるこい！

>>142964820
I'm too apathetic to unsubscribe. I don't even come here anymore to be honest I just wanted to convey to SOMEONE that there was a sad failure over there without being banned and downvoted and shit. Guess I will unsubscribe now though. All the actually interesting language learning posts are on /r/languagelearning anyhow.

>>142964828
に is used for direction and location and shit like that, so it's used with action verbs that show movement to somewhere like with 歩く or 走る or that show location of something like いる

>>142964740
Fuck off back there, scum.

>>142964941
You come across as so autistic when you have this conditioned reaction towards something without any reason

>>142964612
As a fellow non-english native, I'll try:

私は手紙を書いた。
I wrote *A* letter.

私はあなたに手紙を書いた。
I wrote YOU a letter.
(lit. to you)

Think of に as a sense of direction, "to" place (not necessarily physical place), indirect subject.

To him.
To that place.
Towards me.
Towards there.

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>>142964967
I wouldn't even waste my time replying to him m8. Nothin' to do with rage rugrats but let'm whine in their lonesome.

>>142964967
Fuck off back there, scum.
Normalfags are not welcome here in this thread for anons.

>>142965018
You aren't welcome, it's that fucking simple.

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>>142965018
checkmate

>なんつってっつっちゃった
Translate it weebs

>>142965180
S-shit, he captured my favourite trick!

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>>142965303
レズどもの恋歌なのだ

>>142965303
no fucking idea, hate this shit when i see it as a beginner, it doesnt even make me want to guess

毎週でパワーレベルは上げて感じ
気持ちいぃ

>>142964828
>I don't get how it's used.
地面に落ちている fallen on the ground
失敗に終わる end in failure
上司に叱られた scolded by a boss
不安に思う feel uneasy
探しに行く go to look for
妙に馴れ馴れしい strangely over-familiar
悔しさに泣き出す cry from frustration
猫に犬に a cat and a dog
そこにはない it's not there
怖かったろうに must've been scary
言わずにいられない can't go without saying

let me know if you see a pattern

>>142965303
somehow it... kinda got like that, tee~he!

tee~he for maximum cuteness effect.

>>142965795
Did you have all of this saved?

>>142965303
What is this actually a contraction of? Can someone who's better than me type out what the full, non slurred version of this would be?

What do you do if you haven't done your reps in months? Do you jump back in even if you can't remember anything you were learning when you stopped or do you start over from the beginning?

>>142966090
You ギブアップ

>>142965956
My complete guessing is:
なんとなくとしてついしてしました

or something similar?

>>142966201
Man that fucks with my head even more

>>142965956
なにといっているといってしまった
something like that afaik

>>142966090
How far were you with everything else?

>>142966527
Ah that makes more sense

>>142966456
I wouldn't worry about the non slurred version, all you need to think is:
なんつって: joking way of "it got like that"
つっちゃった: suddenly ended up (in a regretful like tone)

>>142965902
no, I made them up

right now, without learning other grammar, particles will probably remain mysterious to you no matter how much you try to understand them alone

just keep going and try to tackle specific examples instead of asking vague questions like "what does 'to' mean," because it can mean a lot

>>142966614
I wasn't the first guy by the way

>>142966613
Correcting myself, not "got like that" in the strict sense, so that's also usually translated as "I'm kidding", "I'm joking", etc

>>142966613
is the つ　in つっちゃった　from つい, giving it the unintentional tone?

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Trial hype.

>>142964740
What user

>>142966734
I wouldn't say for certain, but that's the feeling it gives.

However, this made me curious so I went to google it and wtf, this actually happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXcx0VYZ75E

Based on the conversation, yeah, that's to give an unintentional tone.

I even watched that and didn't remember AT ALL.

>>142966734
It's from と

>>142967139
You watched Yuyushiki and didn't remember なんつってっつっちゃった? That shit was spammed everywhere when it was airing

>>142967231
On japanese sites it seems, I don't remember seeing it here at least... and that wasn't the type of show to get discussions from, you just watch, get comfy, laugh and move on...

I do remember that scene where the (I think) sensei's butt (in jeans) was posted like EVERYWHERE.

Damn, that show was so good.

>>142967070
I think she put her eyebrows on wrong

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にほんのるーるはよくわかんないけど

ひとのからあげにレモンはかけたらだめだよ

>>142967231
Oh I also remember the beginning of an episode where I think it's raining, looks like a serious start, the blonde (I think) is walking up the stairs with juice, she trips and PLOFT, smashes her juice on the ground.

Whenever I remembered that scene I couldn't avoid getting big grin out, and that was creepy as fuck because it happened randomly during commute or work and people around me were like "what?"

Between learning japs, reading eroge, and watching dorama which one should I choose?

>>142967540
All of them?

>>142964995
indirect object*
it's also an adverbial particle

>>142967540
All of them apart from dramas cuz they're bad

>>142967407
>13. Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.

>>142965795
>失敗に終わる end in failure
>不安に思う feel uneasy
>妙に馴れ馴れしい strangely over-familiar
>悔しさに泣き出す cry from frustration
>怖かったろうに must've been scary
>言わずにいられない can't go without saying
adverbial
>上司に叱られた scolded by a boss
>探しに行く go to look for
indirect case
>そこにはない it's not there
>地面に落ちている fallen on the ground
prepositional case
>猫に犬に a cat and a dog
no idea

>>142967803
>no idea
に can be used to list nouns like that

>>142967824
yes but I don't know how it works
I clearly know it can be used to list nouns like that, I just don't know why

So when doing core, I'm supposed to learn kanji readings and the word's meaning at the same time?

>>142967932
Nah, just the reading of the word itself and the meaning. You'll slowly get the individual kanji by seeing them pop up in multiple different words by context

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>>142967932
>so when im learning japanese, im supposed to be learning japanese

not at all!

>>142967972
Alright, I'm gonna follow this advice. It seems the most logical. Thanks for the help.

>>142967540
Watch anime

……さすがに幼女っていうのがな。常識的に考えて……」

せめて同い年か年上だってんだったらまだヒモとかいう感じで心からの寝放題生活を満喫できただろうに……

The second paragraph is what gets me. "If she's atleast the same age or older than me I could still sleep as much as I want as a ヒモ ”I think？ But then why is できた　there as if it's already happened?

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Another boner. At least I finished essential grammar.

How do you stay focused and not get distracted? I tab out of tk every section I finish.

>食材に罪があるわけではない。俺には贖罪があるのかもしれないが。
How would you translate this?

>>142969284
The ingredients are not guilty. I might be the one who has to atone.

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>>142968786
しらべてみたよ

バブルことばだってかいてあったよ

女からの不労所得のある男のことだって

>>142969284
しょくざいはするものであって、あるものではないけどしょうがないね

Anyone here read Harukuru?

Took me 9 hours to get from the beginning of the game to the end of the third h scene. I feel really slow, but at least my h scene vocab increased a bit.

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>it's another 最終回
あらあら、素晴らしいですわ

>>142969417
>>13. Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.

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>>142969942
>he thinks it's an avatarfag

>starting 2 year school in 3 months
>havent even begun to learn japanese
should i bother even learning right now or should i wait til i arrive and start from the absolute beginning?

>>142970028
do you mean school in japan or school as in japanese classes

>>142970028
>2 year school
of what? Lesbian study classes?

>>142970028
At least learn the kana. Can't go wrong with that.

>>142970028
>2 year school
Something is amiss.

>>142970028
You could learn all the Jouyou Kanji in that time. That would be very helpful, assuming you are going to this "2 year school" to study Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XPiIjqO8s0

>>142970821
雄！
I'll be watching this, thanks

>>142970983
オス
ォス
オッス
オスッォッス
オスオスォス

>>142971135
>押忍誘い人
The silliest title I swear

>>142966090
Just do your reps. Restarting is a big mistake.

Where can I find myself a イエローキャブ?

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What's the deal with the predictable response to sperg out whenever an anon does something like post their handwriting? Time and time again you see these predictable responses and even sometimes arguments over how the handwriting isn't legible or whatnot. Have these anons had any experience with what natives have no problems with being able to read? Pic related is a good example that if you took the text and arranged it aa to appear written on something like paper with a pen, would cause the usual dull kneejerk responses. Why are anons quick to hold handwriting up to unrealistic standards of normality yet you don't see people sperging out over ever awkwardly typed post in Japanese in these threads; something that has a direct negative impact on the whole communication part of language.

What's the deal?

>>142972991
tldr

>>142972991
>>142963906
>muh kneejerk responses
>everytime
What's the deal with autists making shit up just so they can whine?

>>142972991
No one cares about your handwriting here. We learn to read porn games here, production is for normies.

What do you call gay Naruto fanart?

芸術!

>芸人(にん)
>芸能人(じん)
at least keep some semblance of consistency you fucking japs

>>142972991
>What's the deal with the predictable response to sperg out whenever an anon does something like post their handwriting?
Success breeds jealousy.

anyone here read the 十二国記シリーズ before？

>>142973418
ポルノ！

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>accidentally hit "hard"

>>142974357
Ctrl + Z

>>142974408
holy shit thank you

>>142973580
>芸人(にん)
compare the pronunciations between げいにん and げいじん
you will aware that the former is easier to say

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What the fuck is 「よおい」?

>>142974563
良い
さあ、ズボンを脱いで前屈みにして

>>142974563
用意

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図書館に行くのは可能だと思いますか

What is the kanji that looks like kome but with an extra line at the top?

>>142974740
Ah, thank you! That's it.

>>142974787
I guess that is 来

I need some easy and useful kanjis, please

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>>142974853
Thanks

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ＤＪＴ、ここに並んでください。

>>142972991
>What's the deal with the predictable response to sperg out
stopped reading there ESL-kun

>>142975005
Core 2k Anki

>>142975009
わたしわホモでわない！

>>142974761
Do you think it is possible to go to the library?

>滾る たぎる
Such a pretty word

>>142975402
I also like
>漲る
>迸る

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>>142975342
それは正確だな

>>142975005
欟

Just drank Ramune for the first time and holy fuck this is mind-alteringly good.

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>>142975550
i've always wanted to try it. might drop by the asian market and pick one up later today

>>142975690
You won't regret it. Get the original flavor. Fuck, I want another one.

>>142975736
It's odd there are no good melon sodas over here, you'd think Mtn Dew or someone would have made a flavor by now

>>142975437
>迸る
You don't happen to read Tsurumiku eroge?

>>142974455
Yea. There are actually some rules for when you use nin and when to use jin. It'd be nice if they there were stricter. Alas
>http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1366388233

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図書館で僕が発言している.. 怖い。助けて!!

>眉を顰める
>文化庁が発表した平成26年度「国語に関する世論調査」では、本来の言い方とされる「眉をひそめる」を使う人が44.5パーセント、本来の言い方ではない「眉をしかめる」を使う人が44.5パーセントという結果が出ている。

Awww, yeah. This is even better than 他人事.

>>142977452
Ok, DJT, it's time to take a stance.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10511232

>>142977452
Always used ひそめる
ひそめる defence force reporting

>>142977741
>muh 昔からの正しい大和言葉

>man I should really get some studying done today, DJT made it so easy to keep learning and still I've been wasting time
>by the way I wonder how DJT is doing
someone tell me to fuck off already

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>>142978084
go study anon

>>142978084
no don't leave. what if someone posts an answer to an interesting question

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finishing 10 new cards of dojg takes more time than core2k, kanjidamage, and yotsubato vocab deck combined

>>142978084
DJT is a blessing and a curse. It's good to have a place where you can discuss different approaches and ask questions, but it's very easy to just slack off and talk (or argue, as if often the case) about learning Japanese rather than actually doing it.

>>142978284
Then don't do it. Just look stuff up in the DoJG when you need to. The grammar will stick better when you're seeing it in a meaningful context rather than bland example sentences in a textbook anyway.

>>142978385
あんたは間違いない

>>142978429
Not him, but a lot of grammar is vague as fuck and often times you don't know which kana is part of the default grammar structure and which part isn't. Having seen it at least once before makes it easier to reference is again when you need it. And once you get out of the DBJG cards the example sentences are pretty good practice for reading comprehension anyway so it's not like the time is wasted.

In regards to TK, I am going through the Complete Guide and then the Grammar Guide. Is that the order, or do most folks skip the Complete Guide? I only usually see references to people going through the Grammar Guide.

>>142978748
only do grammar.

>>142978748
I only did the grammar guide, but from what I saw the complete guide is like 95% the same except it has some exercises thrown in.
But don't quote me on that, I just glanced over the section titles.

>>142978748
Don't use the Complete Guide. It's incomplete.

>>142978748
The "Complete Guide" is incomplete and will probably remain so forever.

>>142978790
>>142978806
>>142978810
>>142978821

Well damn. At least I asked before I finished it.

>>142978810
>>142978821
>Complete guide is incomplete
I'm 12 and I laughed at this

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>>142979005
i was just about to post this. やれやれ

Anyone else accidentally given themselves Pavlov's Boner? For the past month I've been masturbating before I study Japanese, so lately I've been able to get myself rock hard by just thinking about practicing Japanese

>>142979075
Is this a new meme? I see it posted multiple times every thread now

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>>142979075
お前、変な人だよね。

>>142979128
I wasn't aware there were any previous posts resembling mine. I'm genuinely serious about my Pavlov's Boner.

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how fast can you say 手術室

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ほら、どうぞ。これしかたべないよ。

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>>142979005
mods

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>>142979646
うまそう

>>142979607
てすべむろ

>>142979780
hot

is cb still alive

After a month of doing nothing but maintenance reps, I'm back at full speed. After a night of heavy drinking, all my motivation came pouring back. It was like magic. Thank you rum.

>パルプ○テ
what did he mean by this

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>>142980002
おめでとうございます!!

how m

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>>142980179
press enter to line break and it sends to post what the fuck

>>142980256
Why would you line break after "how m"?

>>142980329
i dont know forgot i what i was going to say now

>started learning Japanese because of anime
>now have no time to watch any

>>142979607

LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY IT AT ALL

>>142980449
Who are you quoting?
Better than ending up as someone who has watched everything worth watching and is unable to get into untranslated manga

>>142980449
>not watching anime for listening practice

Anyone knows what this means? ｷｬｿﾍﾟｰｿ
I don't get it
Thanks in advance

>>142980612
>2016
>sperging over greentext
sheesh

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>>142980449
問題ないでしょ？字幕使ったら

>>142980612
>Who are you quoting?
>>>/jp/

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>>142980706
champagne

>>142980782
That's a so, not an n.

強姦
レイプ
暴行

>>142980706
You sure it says ソ and not ン? What's the source?

>>142980896
たそ will blow your mind

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>>142980969

>>142981166
phew that is so clearly an ン i almost 爆笑'd

>>142980969
>>142981166
I'm just a tad confused on the distored kanjis, so I don't really get it.

>>142981203
Don't lie, you 爆笑 over smaller stuff all the time

>>142981166
I assumed that you copypasted it because it was written in half-width katakana.
Why the hell would you even type into half width?

Do you guys have some app setup to study/read LNs or something like that in your phones? I'm using android.

I'm currently reading in the PC, using KanjiTomo (OCR) because my kanji sucks, and EDICT (KanjiTomo's and another software) for unknown words.

I'll need a long break away from the PC so I'm looking if there's anything similar that could allow me to keep reading in the phone.
For now I only got Google Input, using Akebi for dictionary, then every kanji/word I type/draw there and get the definition, but it's slow as hell since I do this for practically every non N4 kanji...

Thanks in advance!

>>142982241
Just get a Kindle.

>>142982277
Hm, I always avoided Kindles because I think android (tablets) look much nicer, albeit more expensive too, it has more uses (gaming and anime mostly).

What does Kindle have going for it to make reading raw LNs easier?

>>142982391
Tablets aren't for reading. E-reader have non-glare screens + e-ink for closer to paper feel.

>What does Kindle have going for it to make reading raw LNs easier?
Inbuilt dictionary. Get definitions on touch.

>>142978240
Holy shit
I can't believe following this shitpost actually was useful
I am about to finish TK and in need of means to read on my android and >>142982241 appears already providing more than I would expect from a good answer in his question

DJT sure is a mysterious place

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the sentence 今日はちょっと遅くなるけど、あなたよりは早く帰れると思うから kind of confuses me
why does she use から at the end?
is "it'll (the bento) be a bit late today, but i can go home earlier than you" a correct translation

>>142964828
what's your native language?

>>142982766
lit. Today it'll be a bit late but I think I can come home earlier than you.
(there's no bento in the phrase)

As for the から, I tend to think of it as "since, because", but not always it have a logical english sentence... so I don't know how to explain.

(today) (a bit) (late will become) (but), (more than you) (faster) (can come back) (I think) (since)

>>142982391
Kindle paperwhite's tap and hold dictionary search is very seamless and unobtrusive. (You can set up j-j and j-e dics) This helps a lot when doing tons of reading or reading material that's above your current level. You can't quite get the same seamlessness with android.
I agree they have a more comfortable screen for reading as well.

Kindles are also less versatile than an android tablet, for example they're absolute shit at displaying pdfs. But for reading novels in japanese (or any language really) they are the absolute best.

If you have the money, I recommend you get one. It was hugely helpful to me.

>>142983461
Researching a bit now, I'm almost tempted to buy one, the >>142982524 > Inbuilt dictionary. kinda sold me already.

One question though, I'm looking on how to read from JPGs and I didn't find an "easy" answer (lots of convert to/from though), and all my LNs are in JPGs or images... is Kindle like Android where I can simply copy/paste in a folder and start reading?

>>142983596
You know the built in dictionary won't work with jpg, right?

>>142982241
>>142983596
OCR manga reader (android) is good for images

>>142983596
Just get them as txt/epub instead, a lot of them are available like that in the CoR. Or if it isn't there buy the Kindle version off Amazonjp.

>>142982766
The subject of the sentence is her, not the bento.

から is often used with either side left out.
ーだからさ、僕はノーマルだ
- (I'm telling you/Like I said before), I'm not a homo.
ーはいはい、やっとくから。
- Yeah yeah, I'll do it (so it's fine/so bugger off).
Essentially you fill in the rest with your imagination, in a sense. You'll pick up these expressions naturally, just watch cartoons.

>>142982241
Personally, I used Moon Reader on Android, if you get the HTML-formatted LNs from the CoR it works great, plus you can add a dictionary for look-ups if you want.

>>142963809
Are the decks N5/N4 useful for learning the most common words?

>>142984538
They have words and they're common. You'll need a lot more than what's in those decks though so you might as well pick up a larger one from the start. I.e, core 2k or 6k.

>>142984220
>Moon Reader
That sounds nice, I'll try it, hopefully it's better than just reading shit in browser.

>>142983596
Don't fall for kindle meme, I have one and the dictionary works like ass. E-reader touchscreens are laggy and unresponsive as all hell so selecting a word takes ages.
There's also a kindle app for android and it's in built dictionary works like ass as well, J-J is really basic and J-E straight up doesn't work.

>>142985653
>E-reader touchscreens are laggy and unresponsive as all hell so selecting a word takes ages.

Send to Kindle auto-detects word boundaries so you only have to click in the general area of the word. I have no problems doing that. Do you have some very old model or something?

このスレッドはゴミのための場所です。

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>>142985902

>>142985868
I bought my LNs directly from amazon and it didn't detect any word boundaries for shit.

>>142983662
I tried that one, although it works, it's pretty shitty to have to draw the rectangle every time.

I lose more time adjusting the rectangle perfectly than switching to another app, drawing the first one/two kanjis and the dic auto-completing if needed.

>>142985983

What's that last word?

>>142986083
There's your problem nigga. Amazon is fucking retarded so you have to use send to kindle even for books bought from Amazon. It's been mentioned in a few threads already that Send to Kindle works wonders.

>>142986110
ゴミ箱

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>奮う
>奪う

>>142986615

LITERALLY INEXTINGUISHABLE

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>>142978810
>>142978821
>>142979005

>>142985653
>Don't fall for kindle meme, I have one and the dictionary works like ass. E-reader touchscreens are laggy and unresponsive as all hell so selecting a word takes ages.
>There's also a kindle app for android and it's in built dictionary works like ass as well, J-J is really basic and J-E straight up doesn't work.

That's strange. This is not my experience with the paperwhite at all.

It works great! Every once in a while you do need to adjust the auto selected word but that's it. It's not slow at all.
The J-J dic is perfectly fine imo, of course you can get better and more specialized epwing dictionaries, that doesn't make the default one bad.
J-E works fine.

When I tried the kindle app on android (about a year and a half or so ago), the problem I had was that the pop up window of the word search was too small for most definitions and they were all cut short. (not a small tablet) This was obviously really bad, but maybe it's fixed now? Otherwise it was fine.

>>142986083
Ok, that's bad! Didn't know this could happen since I never actually bought anything from amazon, just torrented everything.

>>142986261
It's good to know you can fix it, but still.

>励む and 励ます are different words

>>142987187
励みます

>>142984220
>>142983674
Can you name a few LNs in CoR in that format?
I've tried downloading some I knew but they're in JPG...

>>142987484
At the top of the CoR there's a "500+MB assorted LN HTML file format" which is where all the HTMLs are: https://mega.nz/#F!HMNgQLTI!agLeklx6Rqvpr9_j9Dsdfw

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>>142987744
> I never noticed the tabs in the bottom
Many thanks. Have a Miku.

>>142987187
ハゲろ

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>>142988010
なんでお前は緑本文を使った..まったくもう

>>142988010
Whoever has control of the CoR really needs to switch the tabs to English to stop this shit.

It's easy to miss the tabs if you don't already know japanese, and it just makes it harder for beginners to navigate around, leading to more questions

It should also have the instructional books as the default tab

>>142988466
「小説」が読めないなら
小説が読めないだろう

>>142988757
you don't need to be reading to use the cor you retard

>>142988829
What else are you going to use it for?
Downloading 絵本 and looking at the pictures?

>>142988326
その気分だったから。

>>142988466
I wouldn't say it's the language, but look at the size of that thing. And it's on the BOTTOM too.

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>>142988964
And of course I forgot the pic.

>>142988937
the cor contains more than reading material

>>142988937
>he doesn't even know what's beyond the second tab

>>142988937
Case in point for english tabs.

When should I read 娘 as こ? When it's used to mean girl rather than daughter?

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So the guide says learn Hiragana / Katakana and start with the Anki decks.

But what the fuck are these and how am I supposed to know they mean what they mean?

>>142989252
I too don't know, was it important? Since it's a beginner guide and was written in moon I assumed I should only care about it once I could read it

>>142989466
Try moving your eyes about 2cm downwards

>>142989408
男の娘

>>142989493

Way to completely miss the point bro.

I meant the symbols themselves, which have their pronunciation above em, where do these symbol come from / whats the pattern here?

>>142989466
Use your brain sometimes. It can help.

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>>142989466
わはは、ちゃんと読んでください。

IT MEANS WRISTWATCH

>>142989533
You don't know what kanji are?
You're done with the kana right? Did you even start TK?

>>142989535

Such reddit, very insult

+1

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>>142989533
You only have to memorize this chart with every character. After this you can start learning Japanese and doing Anki.

>>142989720
this should be added to the guide

>>142989720

XD

is it possible to get these to show up vertically on moon reader?
I can't find a way to do it

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>>142989720
whew it actually got made holy shit

at least it helps see which kanji have unique pronunciations

>>142989623

Nope I dont, just followed the guide suggestion of learning Hiragana and having some idea of Katakana then Anki deck.

>>142990142
The guide is pretty clear in that after learning kana you must get started with grammar WHILE using kanji. Use Tae Kim guide for that, it's listed on the guide. It'll explain how the language works. Don't just skip the kanas section, you might learn something new. I know I did.

>>142989720
I get it but still don't know how to use this and how it's supposed to be useful

>>142990331
>*WHILE using Anki

~Weekly reminder for beginners to do Japanese The Manga Way instead of Tae Kim. The explanations are just as good if not better, you can always cross-reference Tae Kim if you don't understand something, and you don't have to deal with a bunch of kanji vocab at an ultra-beginner level.

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>shit memory
>test myself months ago
>the only things that seemed to help were "don't burn out" and "use dark rheme"
>don't
>months later
>still having problems
>get mad
>start fucking around
>turn on dark theme
>suddenly my short term memory works at least a little

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when will バカ振りクソ投稿者 stop 餌を付ける on my precious ディー・ジェー・ティー

>>142990398
you can mouse over words in tae kim

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>>142990331
>>I get it but still don't know how to use this and how it's supposed to be useful
>you must get started with grammar WHILE using kanji
These are the Kanji. You just remember evryone of them and then start the grammar guide
Here's another helpful chart for you.

>>142990398
someone should just take tae kim and delete the vocab headers

>>142988964
>I wouldn't say it's the language, but look at the size of that thing. And it's on the BOTTOM too.
Well yeah, but the language probably decreases it's eye-drawing power

>>142990574
as >>142989485
newfags actively ignore it because it's Japanese

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>>142990398
>Japanese The Manga Way instead of Tae Kim
何言ってんだこいつ

>>142990537
I meant to write Anki. corrected myself even
Still don't get how to use that chart though

>>142990844
Reading of the Kanji is on the sites. Just remeber the reading of the Kanji. Are you stupid or why can't you read a simple chart? It's not rocket science

>>142989466
>>142990844
You can look up unknown words in the example sentences, but you should focus learning whatever word the card is introducing. It's natural that the examples will have unknown words, you'll just have to deal with it.

>>142990991
I get that much
What I don't is what use does that have
Am I supposed to use it when I see something written on romaji and want to guess the kanji for it or something?

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>>142991115
Don't listen to him he is shitposting. Here's the real chart.

>>142991311
saved, thanks dude

>>142991311
thanks nida

>>142991311
How do you say thanks in korean?

>>142991311
But anon, that's the Kimchigana chart.

Would "先着一名様" here http://exhentai.org/s/7a7ce863a9/894573-7 be referring to the first person to come or just the first to take up the offer? Not sure if 先着 can be used like that.

>>142991659
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/126926/meaning/m0u/先着/

>>142991725

Yeah I know the normal definition of it, just wondering if it would make sense to a native speaker to use it in the context of whoever ejaculates first, or whether she's just saying whoever takes advantage of it first gets to enjoy it (i.e. the usual definition).

After finishing the first 2 out of 3 units of shin kanze master N1 grammar, I have come to the conclusion that it is time to graduate to N2 grammar

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>>142991939
あのん、僕は..この情報が何するのか

>>142991939
退歩なう

なんか久々に韓国料理って食べた気がしました。

Can someone explain this to me? I think he's saying its felt like korean food he had a long time ago.

>>142990398
The scan I found of that looks like absolute shit. I can't focus on learning when what i'm reading looks like it was scanned and then blown up to be a decent size.

>>142992147
>felt like korean food he had a long time ago.
It should be 食べた韓国料理 then. Not sure exactly what it's trying to say though, need more context.

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あのん、明日１０時までに図書館に集まってくださいよ。

How much/long are you reading everyday?

>>142992251
sorry, i felt i forgot something in my post
http://nipponnostalgie.hatenablog.com/entry/20130730/1375189948

>>142992146
desu it's more just that there are a few rarely used grammar forms (or rare nuances of more common grammar forms) in both N1 and N2 so I gotta go through them both

>>142992587
>>142992147

I think he's saying it feels like it's been a good while since he's had Korean good.

>>142991659
>>142991939

Also anyone know this?

>>142992724
>*had Korean food.
whoops

>>142992587
His sentence is bad but he's probably just saying he felt like it was the first time in a while he had eaten korean food

>>142992147
>"just read" faggots will defend this

>>142992724

Well somehow fucked up the links hardcore for the second part of that post too:

>>142991659
>>142991788

Still wondering about this if any fampai can answer.

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>>142992800
>"just read" faggots
>彼はまだ分からない
まったくお前は心細い人だよね...。

>>142992562
Non-free day, ~4 hours
Free day, ~8 hours

>>142993054
>心細い
what did he mean by this

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>>142993155
f-fuck you

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>>142993155

>>142992147
>>142992587
久々に means for the first time in a long while
it means he felt he'd eaten korean food for the first time in years
as for 142992251 you can ignore it because the 食べた is describing the 気 here
if you said 食べた韓国料理 then it would be describing the 韓国料理 wouldn't it
back to reading to polish your grammar

>>142992800
what did (you) mean by this

>>142992879
I've never seen 着く associated with ejaculation, so it probably just means 先着 in the literal sense
makes far more sense in the context too

>>142993471
looks like i broke the convenient popup link so here
>>142992251
is the poster you can safely ignore
thanks for reading

>>142990398
tried it, the scan quality is shit and they use roman-ji way too fucking much

tae kim covers the exact same shit without those problems

Weekly reminder for beginners to abandon japanese and learn korean instead

korea is the future and they have already done away with kanji so it's like a superior version of japanese

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>>142993718
だよね？

>>142990398
うるせー、化け物。

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the japanese the manga way deck is pretty useful though eh

>>142992562
30 minutes hanahira + 30 minutes yotsubato, just started reading earlier this week

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>>142992562
NHK easy articles mayb 1 or 2
yotsuba chapter a day
some hanahira but i only just fixed a save game bug and havent been back to it since it dropped my last save
imoutos shitposts about food
not much else cause i suck and cant actually read it

all this after core2/6k and a dojg deck is done

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空が暗くて僕も疲れっている..そのため、おやすみよ

>疲れっている

>>142995336
ごめん、まだ分からないよｗ

いみふ

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I get how the first sentence is and can translate it clearly
1. As for me, ate obentou at the park.

Sentences 2 and 3 are what's killing me. Does it have the same translation to sentence 1? Is it just differently phrased?

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おはようおにいちゃん

にほんはうみびらきだよ

うみいく？

>>142995897
海はつまんない
三次元豚しかいないから

>>142995890
same, all that matters is the particle that comes after the given word

>>142995897
イ、イグ、イグう゛う゛ううううｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>142995890
>Does it have the same translation to sentence 1?
Why they don't?

>>142995890
that and the verb comes last IN A GIVEN CLAUSE, if not then it either is describing something, or there is more than one clause

>doraemon is so popular that you pretty much have to read some of it just to understand the references

>>142995890
It just changes the emphasis/nuance some but means the same thing
just like the difference between "I was eating a bento at the park" and "I was at the park eating a bento"

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あなたは
日本語を覚えることが出来ても
幸せになることはできない

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>been doing nothing but playing idolm@ster for like 3 weeks
>shit's so easy I only mined a grand total of 4 words during the time
>feel incredibly guilty for "not improving"
How the fuck do I get rid of that feeling?
Playing games in Japanese was my goal in the first place, why do I feel so bad for not having 30 new cards a day now that I got there

>>142997333
Just spent 20 minutes a day reading wikipedia and quickly get 20 words and then go do whatever the fuck you want

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>>142995897
海は一杯変わり者でしょう、結構だ

>>142995890
just dont put the direct object of eating on the park, or yourself, and we can avoid a horror movie in our heads thankyou

ここにほかに日本人がいるアルか？

>>142997991
いないと思うニダ

pop quiz
how do you pronounce 上下

>>142998386
however the furigana tell me to

>>142998386
You expect かみしも? Forget it.

>>142998386
しょうか because it's easier to pronounce.

>>142998386
上下(あっぷあんどだうん)

足 means foot or leg. Is there another word for these, or is it merely context clues to know which is being talked about?

>>142999613
足 is usually used for foot, and 脚 or 肢 if it's the whole leg.

>>142999613
Not exactly leg, but there are words like すね、もも.

>>142999694
>>142999759

Awesome, thanks! I am like 100 cards into 2k6k (plus some 400 on WaniKani [free]) so I've been asking questions like these as they come up.

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>>142997794
うみもかわもいいよ

これはＮＮＢくらい田舎のほうがいいかんじだよ

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>>142999808
>wanikani
why

>>142999885

>田舎
It always feels like I'm seeing a unicorn when Imouto posts using kanji.

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>>142999942
not him but there is literally nothing wrong with using wanikani for the free levels

>>142999942

It was the first things to come up as I looked into learning Japanese.

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>>143000008
other than it ending at some point and forcing you to either pay money or switch to anki anyway
even when you do hand over the cash, it still breaks off after a couple thousand kanji
why not use anki from the start since you can do whatever you want with it

beginner here, what ever is the purpose of using the particles には together?

Can someone help me out with this one?

>こりゃあやべぇぞ

Text before this is pretty much
>よりによって...!
>くそ...!
Guy's annoyed that a few girls got chosen for something.

>>143000282
Intermediate here, I still have no idea.

>>143000153
can use both and just drop it when the free levels are done, thats what i did

there's a bunch of vocab in the trial that either took ages to get to in core or aren't there at all

>>143000282
beginner intermediate here, i have no idea either.

>>143000309
Axanael?

It's just a slang/dialect thing. Like when sugoi becomes sugee.

やべぇ = やばい

In this case it can mean "You're really awful".

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>>143000309
よりによってこんなときに…！

くっ…おさまれおれの左腕…！

でなおしな…一光年早いんだよ…！

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>>143000282
>>143000329
>>143000370

>>143000632
Yeah, of course I've read DoJG entry, it's only confuses me more. Like here's a title of a manga:
この美術部には問題がある
How the fuck does "in order to" fit there?
Most of the time I see it used "indicating purpose" doesn't make sense.
I'm just gonna keep reading and hope I fully feel it someday instead of trying to wrap my head around this shit.

>>143000779
Don't think in English words.

>>143000282
にわにわにわにわとりがいる

>>143000779
>この美術部には問題がある
It's a cross between "this art club has a problem" and "there is a problem in this art club."
There are nuances concerning POV, subjectivity and whatnot.

>>143000282
it's just fucking に plus は
if you know what the purpose of に is
and what the purpose of は is
then you know what the purpose of には is

６月には雨が多い
俺には武器など必要ない
引きこもりには絶対ならない
殺したって死なないヤツを倒すにはその剣が足りない

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>>143001083
>殺したって死なないヤツ

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>>143001150