Schwarzesmarken / Total Eclipse / Muv-Luv

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>>142940202

It doesn't end, it just stops occasionally

>>142940397
Where'd she get one anyways?

Isn't Luger too Nazi?

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Oh shit, ML artist actually lurk /a/.

>>142940441

There had to be one or two lying around. mine is made in 1917 in Erfurt which ended up being part of the DDR, although the factory was shut down as per the treaty of versailles and the production moved to Suhl which was also in the DDR later (and the center of east German shooting sports)

also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_pistol#Users

>Users
>East Germany: Used by the Volkspolizei and Stasi agents.

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>>142940532
Genya, I know you're reading this, we love you!

Since you're Taiwanese, you wanna draw some Cui? Cui a cute.

Who never gets drawn.

;_;

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>>142940532
Hi Genya. Stay safe pls.

>>142940202
Happy Lise end when.

>>142940532

Hi, keep up the good work.

>>142940202
I wonder how well Lise and Theo grew up on regular earth in East Germany.

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Why are Nomenklatura girls so hot?

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>>142941055

they aren't forced to live in apartments downwind from munitions factories, and they can get a proper, balanced diet.

also cosmetics smuggled in from the west.

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI

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>>142940933
Assuming Pops doesn't try and fail to hop the wall again they'd have about as normal and happy a life as you can have in East Germany, till the Wall comes down and they're free to have the honeymoon where they please.

>>142941120
>not using Florena products

>>142940202
Get the hell out you vapid generalfags.
>>>/m/
>>>/jp/
>>>/vg/
>>>/out/
>>>/anywherebuthere/

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>>142941055
How can Beatrix even compete?!

>>142941397
You can like Iris if you want but trying to bring down other waifus isn't very neighborly.

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

>nothing to discuss
>samefagging
lol

>>142941802

They come in tilted because of an upload error trying to post photos from my sail foam.

I want Theo to fuck me hard.

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>tfw cant read moonrunes
>tfw no new content in years

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Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart

>>142941902
I'd rather Jurgen or Walter desu.

>>142941902
Lise please

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>>142941397
nigga plz

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>>142942455
I want to bury my head between those perfect breasts.

>>142942455
dubs of truth only trips can prove them wrong

>>142941395
>vapid
pot furiously calling the kettle black

Holy shit, what have you guys done to /m/.

>>142943086
the guy who posts threadly redirects is on there stirring shit up I think

>>142943086

Is /m/ always that salty?

>>142943242

I remember better times, but that was literally years ago.

>>142941055
Irisdina a fuckin best.

/m/ thread made me contemplate suicide

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>>142943795

I fucked up the eyes but have a Lise. I stole the pose from Kampfer of all places,

>>142943875
Thanks I guess?

>>142943913

the dearth of any lise fanart has forced me to take drastic measures.

>>142943953
What are you talking about. she keeps getting fanart on Pixiv

>>142944053

the last one was posted like 3 days ago...

>>142944221
>...
why are mal users so impatient

>>142944221
>3 days ago

nigga please. Do you really complain about that?
I'm waifu's last image was uploaded two months ago, now that is some time

>>142944286

I'm sorry I used an ellipse when typing conversationally.

>>142944221
Yes, and Beatrix has had aproximately one piece of fanart in the past two months, (and the piece she did get had the artist complaining about what an evil bitch she was), and the other girls get even less art.

>>142944335
>>142944382

Sorry, I just wish there were more than a few dozen people who were amped up on this series.

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>>142943953
Mkay here ya go. See you in 3 days.

>>142944802
Me too, but well at least my waifu is getting some official art for her birthday

>>142944382
This has to change.

Good quality porn when?

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>$35
Are they retarded or is it just a Canada thing?

>>142945222
Yes
The price in USD is 31.49

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>>142944335
>I'm waifu's last image was uploaded two months ago, now that is some time
This is the last pixiv image of my waifu made.

It was uploaded in February of 2014.

>>142945404
I'm sorry anon

>>142944821

Cute!

>>142945295
It doesn't even contain Alternative. Feels very expensive.

>>142945404
SM still doesn't get that much art compared to TE.

>>142945522

Is going to be at its most expensive now. It will go on sale after a while but song it at $35 means they can say you're getting 70% off when you buy it for $10 in a year or they can call or a $35 when they Bundle it with mla later on.

Also gotta get the pound of flesh out of the diehards.

>>142946337
>the diehards
I think most of them backed the kikestarter. I could really use that $800 right now

>>142940202
Why is Saber and cooking man in the foreground?

>>142946721
They settled down, had a daughter, and adopted a son.

>>142941120
You do realize Gretel is a Party commissar, right? Technically, she's the highest on the nomenklatura totem pole before you get to the Leader ranks.

So what's everyone's hopes and expectations for tomorrow's reveals?

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>>142948205
Something that can save these threads.

>>142946798

It was a reference to Martin's sister.

>>142948823
We'll see a huge resurge next month, so I'm not that worried about these threads going away for very long.

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>>142948877
>huge surge in the middle of summer
Not sure how to feel about this.

>>142949628
No Beatrix a nearly comatose broken spirit does not a good fighter make. Now get in that shower and comfort her with your soothing motherly presence before she does something drastic and hangs herself.

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>>142949858
Only 1 mama has shower hug experience.

>>142949896
>tfw Beatrix, Latrova, Iris, and Mira are all the same age

>>142949542
It'll be great. Imagine all the secondaries getting their first taste of authentic Mabu-Rabu.

If SM discussion persists, I believe the term anime only will be replaced with summerfag.

>>142951684
Necrobumping is pathetic, there isn't any need for constant Muvluv threads

>>142950384
>If SM discussion persists, I believe the term anime only will be replaced with summerfag.

More likely it will be replaced by the term newfag or a variation thereof. Can't wait to point out the fact that Yuuko is just a smarter Beatrix with intact morals.

>>142951708
Let the thread survive until todays stream anon, after all its the only new source of information we usually have.

>>142951790
Fuck off, you don't need a thread for streams and there's always the slower /m/ thread if you badly needed discussion

Persisting generals of completed shows are a cancer, /a/ isn't your personal blog and chatroom

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>>142949970
>If Mira lived, she'd shower hug Yuuya and beg him not to feel guilty for Sven's death.

The problem with death isn't what isn't, it is what will never be.

;_;

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>http://store.steampowered.com/app/449830/
>$32
>For Extra and Unlimited
Isn't that little too expensive?

>>142952245
>Isn't that little too expensive?

Have you seen how much age wants for the old versions on their website? While still overpriced for such a old game, its better than what age usually asks.

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>>142940202
Yuimouto is love
Yuimouto is life

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>>142952633
Beatrix is love
Beatrix is life
Beatrix is eternal

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>>142952633
Best girls.
There is something great about girls trying their best to cook their boyfriend's favorite food.

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>>142952245
Cookie needs his cars, fool.

He needs tears too, but that's what the VNs are for. No doubt he will get an extreme infusion of people's tears in the coming months.

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>>142952665
Lise is love
Lise is life
Lise is eternal

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>>142952245
Good thing i saved some cash. Pre ordered.

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>>142952874
>not supporting the Kickstarted
>not getting best girl daki

>>142946368

Thank goodness i spent my clammy neetbux on am hmg stg-n in .300 blk

>>142952936
>that feel when couldn't afford the daki option

It was hard enough eking out the 300$ tier, had to call in favors.

Being poor sucks ;_;

>>142941829
It is hard to talk about things when not all know what you are talking about.

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>>142952867
Sorry, didn't catch that. Jurgen's getting all touchy again.

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pre-reg gatcha is up for strike frontier.

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>>142952633
Yui is for bullying and punishing!

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Yui, Inia and Cryska are my waifus. I want to cuddle up with the three of them under the covers of my bed.

>>142953956
>Cryska actually smiling for once
>Yui bullied

YES!

I just remembered we didn't get to see Stella in her swimsuit in the anime, I think.

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Lulz, what:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/456570/

>>142954144
I don't get this.

It's like someone's home project in terms of quality.

>>142954144
Getting CHOMPED by tank-kun the game.

>>142954231

It is, apparently it's not made by the real ixtl or something to that effect.

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>>142953855
No bully the Yuimouto!

>>142953702
>>142952867
>>142952665

I want to bully those girls.
Why can't they be real?

>>142954231
>>142954281
It's in early development and has the support of the Muv-Luv team, even if it isn't really being made by them.

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>>142954475
I see.

So if I got a Muv Luv mod for some Paradox game that became really popular, I could be featured and then get to goto their booths and hang out with them in the stream?

>>142954353
Yes, bully the Yui! She deserves it!

>>142953702
>Making out in-front of everyone

Why is she such a slut?

>>142954751
Because she is affection-starved after not getting any hugs or kisses for five years.

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>>142954751
She didn't get to when she had the chance back then, and then it was too late and she lost it forever.

She knows what it means to live, to love each day like it may be your last. She got another chance at her greatest treasure she ever knew, and she's never letting go again.

Not this time.

>>142944382
That was just some anon spreading lies. No artist would waste time drawing things they don't like.

>>142955050
Wasn't that comment on a Iris picture though?

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>>142955050
It's more common then you think.

Irisdina is a filthy ugly whore skank and smells like rotten cheese.

>>142955487
Stop posting, Bea.

>manipulating Katia into thinking she's sleepwalking
>putting a bloodied knife in her hand (maybe a finger of a dead Stasi member in her bed too) when she falls asleep and telling her you saw her walk away somewhere at night

>>142955487
just like her whore mother. Like mother, like daughter.

>>142953761
Just one HR TSF for me and some trash...

>>142955755
you get 3 pulls each day and +2 pulls if you tweet.

I bet Anett loves headpatting Inghi--
Oh wait!

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>>142955676
Katia would be fine with killing Stasi though.

>>142955852
She doesn't have to know that the finger belongs to a Stasi member, though.

I'd also make a horrifying Se7en-tier monument made from some corpse, and convince her it was her job.

I just want to fuck with her head a little.

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>>142955676

>>142955914
>>142955852
I have never seen one of those making a speech on TV.
That must be a very smart cockroach.

>>142955774
okei

>>142955852
>>142955914
I love how Beatrix just gets completely BTFO by her. Even Iris couldn't get a rise like that out of the major. More then Theo stabbing her, it was Katia that put a stop to Beatrix's plans for dictatorship.

>>142955958
>implying you'd have the courage, intelligence, and charisma to do what she did

>>142956004
>courage, intelligence, and charisma
Those are Axmann's traits, not Katia's.

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>>142955852
>>142955914

Why do people get so mad at her?

She's right.

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>>142956047
A great man died because of her.

>reading through the archives
>all those comfy /m/ threads gone because they threw the LNfags out
>all those LNfags defending Beato to the death

How I miss the times before the anime.

>>142956004
Being dumb to the point of fearlessness isn't a good thing anon.

>>142956047
Because she didn't save a goddamned thing, the Yanks did. Had they not bailed her out, the BETA would have reached the Elbe within 24 hours.

For all of Katia's deliberate cuteness, why is she so much less cute than Vivi?

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>>142955676
Anon, while I approve, that sounds like a lot of work. I'm too lazy for that shit right now.

>>142955836
Ha. Hahaha.

>>142956488
Anette is indirectly responsible for multiple deaths, even Axmann's.

>>142956575
>even Axmann's

So she at least did something right.

>>142956488
Why do I want to cuddle with her and make her PTSD go away for some time?

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>>142956575
Well duh, and she knows it. Theo (in his attempts to deflect her anger when they have vile hatred for one another) tells her she was too weak to defend Anette, and to his surprise, she breaks down crying, saying she knows how weak she is.

Anette's a really special and sad ball of suffering. For her, the greatest torture would be live, and watch everyone else suffer, her unable to do anything about it. So she watches as others die instead of her, how others are tortured instead of her. Hell, she's sicked the first time she kills a Werewolf with her TSF, and yet she's the team's other melee specialist and is one of the rare few who knows how to use the PRC sword, and thus ends up racking quite a lot of Werewolf kills.

It's like they wanted to utterly break her.

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Why couldn't they have just been in some college slice of life? There is no happiness in SM/ML

>>142956827
We'll get SM Extra, or some Maniax game with them, eventually. I hope. ;_;

>you will never look exactly like Axmann
>you will never abduct him, sew his mouth so he couldn't talk and mind-rape you, tie him up in some basement, impersonate him and tell him how much power he has lost and will never have again every day. Preferably telling him that in the smuggest manner possible.

>>142956827
This is ML you fool. Even Austin would be suffering. There's likely beer rationing in the States.

Actually, he is suffering in real life. He can't wrestle anymore. ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtx9s9RTmc

Brutally beating Lise at the game of checkers, and teaching her how to be more effective

>>142955958

I dunno, I see Erdogan on the news all the time.

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>>142952245
Fucking came here to post this and give heads up.

Also they have Muv Luv VR?! The fuck?

>>142957147
He said SMART cockroach, anon.

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>>142956188

Vivi was organically cute, Katia was contrived cute.

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>>142952245
>32$
Back to torrents I guess

>>142957788

I spent that much on a box of remanufactured black hills .223 that will last me maybe 15 minutes, I can probably swing $32 for a game that will last me several hours. Once you start getting into shooting, everything else looks affordable by comparison.

>>142957865
>tfw europoor
You came here to laugh at me, don't you?

>>142957738
Healanon continues to deliver!

Blogshit incoming.
And you've inspired me to start drawing, might be a couple of days before I can present something half-way decent though.

How the hell do I play that Strike Frontier game? I had pre registered there already, but every damn VPN I try just time out constantly.

>>142957788

Breh, Muv Luv Extra and Unlimited are around 20 hours playtime, if not more. I don´t see 29 euros being unreasonable.

>>142957788
What a retard. Sekai Project garbage is much worse. Just look how much Clannad costs in Steam. ML is reasonably priced.

>>142949896
Question: is this translated?

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>>142957998

I'm mostly just free handing using other pictures as direct references. The point is to have fun. This is obviously based on a game sprite.

>>142957738
That Beatrix. It's like she's from the depths of Hell, but cute.

>>142957738
cute/10

>>142958245
try out hola browser

Why are Beatrix and Iris so ugly?

>>142951708
>Necrobumping
go back to whatever forum you crawled out of

>>142959012
because you are gay or pedophile or both

News for Martyrs when?

Casualty conductor Jurgen when?

>>142959131
>"Oh hey Beatohime, haven't seen you this chapter"

>>142959118
ベアトルート confirmed

>>142959231
God bless.

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Why does /m/ seem to hate /a/?

>>142959430
/m/ is only about muh mechs

>>142959430
Its just a couple of loud faggots, there are quite a few of us who post on both boards.

But its mostly that they threw the LN/VN-fags out and destroyed the old thread culture they had.

>>142959511
its not that they threw them out but most spoiler providing guys left. kiminozo left when moot sold 4chan. and now they are bragging that they chased them away but they really didn't.

>>142959249
ベ ア ト ル ー ト --> Baie Conclusion its root

Wut?

>>142959599
Beatrix route??

>>142959231
Secret Beato route isn't rumor anymore?

>Beato route confirmed

I told you guys,I told you to have faith

>>142959231
Sauce?

>>142960323
my ass. just want to keep hope alive

>>142957788
that's a reasonable price, but if you live in a third world country i can deal with it

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So we've talked about Kaiserreich Muv Luv, but what about Divergances Kaiserreich?

>Sylwia is a commissar who oppresses the Ruthenians, Prussians, and Balts in her regiment
>Stella is very bitter, huge grudge against Germans and Poles in addition to Russians
>Yuuhi and Meiya are descedants of the shoguns who fled to the Alaskan rebel colony
>Ibrahim is an elite guard of the fallen Macedonian kingdom
>the American characters are Arcadians, speak and bicker in many languages, but are even more powerful than OTL/ML America
>South America is powerful enough to resist Arcadian utter domination

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can someone translate this? the important stuff.

live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv266787667

Stream is up.

Screenshot for our fellows with shit internet please.

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IT BEGINS

Oh shit someone's offscreen

Apparently Iris likes sticking things on Gretel's butt.

So Extra Sylwia can actually be happy! Gretel will always be a shit though.

>>142961515
you a shit

I hope one of you is getting pictures, I only have a small screen.

>>142961608
Tfw Lise is truly fun-sized

>>142961608
>Schwarzesmarken & Panzer

kek.

pls post if kouki sama arrives

>>142961691
Here come dat wessie

Okay so this is a pleb question, but who are these three?

>>142961691
Wessies are talented

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>generic olive drab
>not Strichmuster

ONE JOB

>>142961852
I know comrade...I know. It's difficult.

>>142961883
What is this nigga doing

Strike Frontiers now, or whatever that game was that people asking about! Something. Too bad I don't know moon.

Sandek is in the game...worry?

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>>142962354

>>142962344
no
POLAND STRONK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ma9B5ff0SM

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>>142962377

>>142962377
>>142962354
>no guaranteed SSR roll on pre gacha
Really shit gacha incoming. Prepare your wallets.

Are there any polls today?

>>142962440
Probably a few at the end (generally asking how was the stream or some random question), but nothing substantial.

TRANSLATOR, HELP

>>142962440
>>142962469
One poll right now

Is this which we like best? Or which we'd like to see more of?

You TDAfags put up a good show.

something 21 won

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Good god that landslide.

>>142962508
Guess they're getting tired of Schwarzesmarken.

TDA 3 incoming, BiS VN, never.

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>>142962549

>>142962573
No, from the poll, the BiS VN lost by a huge percentage.

>>142962541
So what were all the options? I can tell 2 and 3 were TDA options, and 4 and 5 were TE, but nothing specific.

And something about a date on the others.

>>142962602
7 and 8 are Schwarzesmarken and BiS, 9 is "other".

>>142962541
What's the winner?

>>142962628
Oh wow, lotta people want to see another story too.

Indian front!

So what do the choices further say? Like, both TDA and TE both have two choices, and even SM as you say does.

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Thats it? A costume and a hand bag?

>>142962595
There really isn't an interest in it. Makeing the main heroine from it as detestable and flat as possible in both the anime and the LN, then trying to do her sympathetic backstory is not a winning strategy. Nobody wants to play a game that features a complete bitch they've come to despise as the main lead, hence the crappy BiS sales. It would have been better for them to have put hints or pieces of her backstory and motivation in the main story, rather than obscure things to make her look unsympathetic and pointlessly evil.

>>142962755
Animeonlies, whether Western or Jap, need to be purged in the gulags.

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>>142962377
>Sandek is only an N level card

Sadness.

>>142961852
>>142961883
That's fucking disappointing.

How hard would it even be to get raindrop in Japan?

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H scenes in the routes when?

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>>142963431
Believe in the Beato route anon

>>142962755
>the crappy BiS sales

Where did you find out about this? Not that I doubt its veracity.

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>>142963555
I believe in the sandwich route.

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what did /a/ get in gatcha?

I want to kick Katia

>>142962541
What is number 6?

>>142965415
the number of years Iris has spent without a boyfriend

>>142965728
but she is 23, what do you mean?

>>142965728
>Iris
>having had a bf, ever

Pfffttt

>>142965836
she didn't have a bf but she did fuck a lot of men with her mother.

>>142965942
Men, women, dogs, sometimes horses.

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Smug Werewolf is smug.

>>142969810
Are they shipping soon?

>>142970147
No. They claimed september-october last year during the KS, but expect december-january instead.

>>142970147
>>142970211
>implying is not a scam

>>142970292
I'm sure it takes a lot of time to translate a game that is already translated.

>>142967046

So the two on the right's names are:

Catalina Diegelmann
カタリーナ・ディーゲルマン
VA: Okuno Kaya

Nicola Michalke
ニコラ・ミヒャルケ
VA: Mikami Shiori

Wonder if we'll learn anything about them in Martyrs, or if they'll just be cute cannon fodder.

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>>142970937
Shorthair is Rosalinde Buch, and of course everyone knows who Beatrix is.

>>142971017
>>142970937
>>142967046
so who is farka?

>>142971250
She probably doesn't exist anymore. She's been replaced by the other Werewolf girls.

>>142967046
>>142970937
>>142971017

Why are almost all the villains girls anyways?

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>>142971299
>No best friend
>No longer the unit leader
>Just 5 new bitches who treat you like crap and disregard your opinion when you point out the obvious trap they're walking into

Why does he hate Lise so much?

>>142971362

Beatrix is grabbing girls out of the Stasi funhaus and gives them a new shot at life. The fact she saved them from a living hell makes them fanatically loyal to her.

Also since part of the trick for Stasi honey traps is to threaten the target with satuatory rape charges (in real life, too) those girls are effectively useless once they hit the age of consent.

>>142961608

>Gretel is Mako
Poor Mako. Gretel should be sodoko
>Lise is Saori
But I thought Saori never had a real boyfriend. I guess now that I think about it, neither did Lise.
>Katia is Miho
Doesn't really make sense, Miho is a tank savant, Katja is just a moeblob
>Irisdina is Hana
literally only because she's tall.
>Sylwia is Yukari
I want to see this happen. I want happy, carefree Sylwia who gets to have friends.

>>142972223
TL pls!

And upload the Beato one if you have it.

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>>142972272
This? I don't have any Carnelian comments on Beatrix.

>>142954144
>getting chomped VR
nope thanks

>>142972445
Damn.

I want to punch Irisdina

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>>142973298
Rude

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>>142973657

I want to bully Irisdina by having our fourteen children be baptized into the Catholic Church.

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>>142973747

>>142973657
>>142972223

why is that headband riveted to her head?

>>142974035

It's holding her skull together after an unfortunate training accident

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>>142973747

>>142975407

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

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So the whole schwarzesfest thing should be happening in 9 hours

【昼公演】開場 14:45　開演 15:30
【夜公演】開場 18:15　開演 19:00

They'll be releasing Martyrs OP, called "White Forces" or something.

>>142977488
>schwarzesfest

So they'll be announcing Martyrs release date or what?

>>142977643
Probably. That's what they did with the first VN.

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#Schwarzesmarken: Just plain horrible in so many ways...
Seriously, why did they even make this into an #anime?
1/10

>>142977844
muh bait

>>142977682
Well then, we will be finally freed from the torture of what is the correct interpretation of our Bea-hime.

>>142977844
Is that pic from the BDs?

>Seriously, why did they even make this into an #anime?
Shitty decisions aren't new for age. This guy >>142962755, expressed one of the main flaws, even if he was just addressing BiS. If you have to read side story upon side story to make the story likeable, here is something wrong with the way the story is being told.

Trying to cut up the story into as many sellable parts as possible, isn't a good idea, it just creates bad first impressions and prejudice towards the story. And that is just what happened. It might raise age's profits a bit, but it killed whatever they planned to do with the greater story as a whole, as they tried to insinuate that SM was part of a bigger project.

>>142978295
>those fucking trees

>>142978235
>Well then, we will be finally freed from the torture of what is the correct interpretation of our Bea-hime.

you wish. we need VN TL first for that.

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>>142978444

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>>142978379
Not to mention LN and BiS translations. Martyrs being released is gonna be a clusterfuck of spoilers and false information.

>>142978235
>>142978524
Wasn't one of the main complains about the first VN that much of the side material wasn't included?

>>142964701
only shit, even in the second day

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>>142978606
Yep, not that condensing is inherently bad but if understanding and appreciating the story and characters to their fullest requires lots of background and side material then its a problem; first because its a mistake to depend on that stuff in the first place and second because it will negatively effect the adaption as a whole.

>>142979111
they got a lot of shit for that in the first VN. Maybe they will change that in the second VN now that they got a lot of cash from KS.who am i kidding kouki will just buy another car

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>>142970937
Nicola, or Katalina lads?

>>142971299
Maybe this girl?

>>142971656
Because they actually don't. Not in any of the other material anyways. Well, we'll have to see what the VN does.

>>142971362
They showed it like that in the anime, but Werewolf has dudes too. Also, they don't just fly Mig-23s, they use Mig-21s as well.

>>142973747
That's taking it too far anon. Think of the children. I'm not saying put them in soulless post-modernist bland Protestantism, but Rome is run by a commie at the moment.

>>142979684
Look at her she has fucking tears in her eyes. Moderates not even once.

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I want to kiss Iris.

>>142979684
>Nicola, or Katalina lads?
Katalina of course. She seems like she'd be a lot of fun.

>>142979788
>that flinch she does right before Theo stabs her cockpit

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>>142979788
>>142980160
Why even show them in tears like this? What is Watanabe's angle?

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>tfw no Yugoslavia Front VN

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>>142980206
I'll throw you out of a helicopter if you make this post 1 more time.

>>142980296
to the goli otok with you.

>>142980206
Suffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEAXIoBPhBQ

>>142980195
Maybe he just flat out hates women?

I mean he knows damn well the Werewolf has dudes in it too.

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>>142980465
>reminder that Axmann was treated with more sympathy in the anime then Beatrix.

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>>142980465
After what he did to Mitsuki, I could see it.

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>>142979684
Nicola. Super bitch is a huge turn on to me, don't know why

>>142980195
Throwing in too many angles from the source material without grounding any of them made the whole show collapse on itself. I'm sure he didn't intend for the majority of people new to SM to cheer for their deaths so hard and meant for them to see that their is some tragedy to it but that just goes to show he's incompetent. Or maybe the majority of anime fans in the west just have the emotional and empathetic maturity of a sociopathic 12 year old.

>>142980465
>I mean he knows damn well the Werewolf has dudes in it too.

I'm pretty sure that was a change the VN made.

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>>142980296

>>142980616
No, that's in the LN too.

>>142980518
JUST

>>142980596
>Super bitch is a huge turn on to me, don't know why

I know that feel.

>>142980518
watanabe self inserted as fucboi confirmed.

>>142980518
>The Saboteur 2 intro

>>142980717
>No, that's in the LN too.

I'm talking about changing the Werewolves into an all female Battalion was something the VN did.

The LN has both men and women in roughly equal numbers.

>>142980947
Oh. Well wouldn't know I guess since I can't read moon.

>>142980518
I know why he's grim, but he has to understand he's the one who started the coup. He should have let Beatrix have the first move.

Then again, Beatrix knows how to hunt.

>>142981161
The Werewolves' composition is described in the first light novel, which is translated.

>>142981261
I meant the change to all girls in the VN.

>>142979687
Bet you anything if she lives she's one of the few GDR loyalists.

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>>142981377
Loyalty huh? Funny you should mention that.

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>>142942725
Isn't that normally Yuuya's thing though, hanging out in the hangar? Theo isn't particularly close to his TSF afaik.

>>142981920
he went to sniff Irisdina's mig-21 cockpit

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>>142982092
Who wouldn't?

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Just finish the VN

When will Martyrs come out?

Because honestly I kinda understand why the nips are expecting something on the second part. This first part is just a bit disappointing in a a sense

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>>142980596

>Or maybe the majority of anime fans in the west just have the emotional and empathetic maturity of a sociopathic 12 year old.

This is true.

Also i bought copy paper.

>>142980195
I think he purposely added in the tears to make the stasi look pathetic, not for any audience sympathy. It's to show that the Werewolves were nothing more then a bunch of bullies led by terrible commanders. Up against real soldiers, they get absolutely recked. Even Gretel scores a kill.

The only reason why they were so intimidating was because of a carefully constructed reputation, brutality, and advanced machines. Once that was stripped away, they were shown to be nothing. It ties into Watanabe's message that the stasi rely on fear and nothing more to stay in power.

Their bark was worse then their bite, so to speak.

It's probably why Watanabe removed most of the scenes showing their badassery, come to think about it.

>>142983576
I was under the impression they were fighting off the global extinction event for hours to buy time when fresh troops attacked them.

>>142983576
And thats what makes the show not work. There is a very obvious message he's trying to get across and the characters are turned into strawmen to do it. Its not even an interesting message and I feel like I'm being talked down to, like I'm supposed to agree because the good guys get heroic theme songs and the bad guys get ominous music but its as insulting to be fed as a propaganda cartoon.

The whole thing comes across as an edgy childish fantasy that could only be agreed with and enjoyed by childish minds, and maybe thats all Schwarzesmarken is but I have faith I'll appreciate the original work and the VNs more.

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>>142984087
Except they go out of their way to show that the stasi contribution is minimal, and that the regular army resent their help.

>>142984323
Stasi in general, maybe, but the Werewolves as far as I can tell were mostly fighting the BETA when the rebels came around.

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>>142984190
Well, LN Wolves get passages like this:

Chapter 3:

>“Our battalion headquarters will have a say in the determination of the battlefield situation. There is no need for concern on that point,” Beatrix said with a smile, overflowing with confidence, as she peered haughtily at the gathered Pilots.

>“This will be the first time our battalion will be engaging the BETA. However, I am not worried; you are all able Pilots who have fought against the BETA before.”

>Pausing a moment, Beatrix sweep her gaze across the men, looking them in the eyes.

>“But still, you are not to get overconfident. Those aliens do not behave like humans. Do not over rely on the capabilities of the MiG-23. With that in mind, we shall charge into battle with the faith that certain victory is ours — is that clear!?”

>An overlapping round of acknowledgment echoed through the room. The hard eyes of the Pilots had no hesitation, showing their determination. All of them had sworn absolute loyalty to the commander of the battalion, Beatrix. To this chosen force that was tasked with clandestine operations, Beatrix, who dirtied her hands right alongside them, had been firmly accepted as a compatriot.

Chapter 4:

>In an instant, everything changed.

>Countless ball-bearings from a canister round blew through the snowstorm—and on the receiving end, a crowd of Grappler class were blown away.

>Cutting through the smoke of the discharge, a group of MiG-23s in Stasi-pattern camouflage appeared. Though few in number, the forms of several MiG-21PFs could also be seen among them, painted in the same camouflage pattern. The voices of the MiG-23 Pilots could be heard through the communication headset.

>“—Prioritize support of the escaping friendlies over the crushing of the BETA! We’re here to rescue the heroes!”

>“—Let’s show them the power of the MiG-23!”

>“—In the name of the Werewolf, receive judgment for your crimes, you extraterrestrial beasts!!”

(continued)

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>>142984600

>Theodor wasn’t the only one who was surprised. Unable to assimilate the change in situation, the majority of the battalion’s Pilots stared in shock at the TSFs of Werewolf battalion, which had appeared out of the snowstorm.

>In the span of only a few seconds, the MiG-23s tore into the Grapplers which had surged into the ranks of Hannibal battalion, one after another, turning the area into a bloodbath.

>These guys… are monsters!

>Although he should have been feeling relieved that reinforcements had finally arrived, Theodor only felt absolute terror. Once again, he relived the fear that had been scorched into him by the Stasi three years ago.

>“—So this is the capability of the MiG-23 Cheburashka…” Katia muttered, her face stiff. “Even though they have such an amazing TSF, why…?”

>Right after the words left her mouth, a MiG-23 landed right in front of Katia’s MiG-21, pointing its assault cannon at her.

>“—!”

>Before Theodor could do more than gasp, it opened fire with the 36mm—killing a Grappler behind Katia that she hadn’t noticed.

>“—Oh, oh…”

>While Katia’s mouth opened and closed in surprise, the MiG-23 relaxed its stance, lowering the aim of the cannon. It turned towards Theodor’s unit, staring at him. Without a datalink connection, Theodor was unable to tell who the Pilot was, and could only stare back silently.

>What…?

>The two TSFs faced-off for several seconds without moving—and then, as if nothing had happened, the MiG-23 turned away, blasting off in search of its next prey. The gracefulness of its movements was a sight to behold, it could have even been called beautiful.

>The tactical situation had been completely turned around. With more than 50 MiG-23s joining the fray, the Grappler class calamity wave that had seemed insurmountable was grounded into minced meat in minutes.

>Suddenly a communication window popped up. It was the commander of Werewolf battalion, Major Beatrix Brehmer.

Funny that it only makes Theo hate Beato more.

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>>142984403
Again, Watanabe goes out of his way to show that the NVA hate fighting with the Werewolves by their side, and that they're always dipping out or not pulling their own weight. He didn't want the Werewolves having any positive traits, even basic ones that are necessary for an organization like theirs to be effective and functional.

>>142984640

Poor Lise can't even open comm links to Talk to her brother. I wonder how things would have changed of she had introduced herself?

>>142984600
>>142984640
I have no doubt the light novels and the VNs are better because there were aspects I did like and I could see the potential that was there but the show didn't do it for me, just felt dissatisfied by the end.

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>Theodor stared at the remaining squadron of MiG-23s that were continuing the battle around him, unable to believe his ears. The sense of wrongness that he had felt previously was replaced with shock. Based on the exchange between Irisdina, Gretel and Beatrix, he could only come to one conclusion.

>Just for that, Beatrix…!

>Werewolf battalion, in order to showcase the power of the MiG-23, as well as to show off their ability to fight the BETA, had deliberately delayed their deployment just so that they could make a dramatic rescue when the four NVA TSF battalions were on the verge of being obliterated.

>Theodor didn’t think that his conclusion was too far-fetched. From experience, he knew that the Stasi would do anything to achieve their purpose. And when you consider that this was another play for power over the rule of the nation of East Germany, it was even more plausible.

>He could feel fathomless dread welling up—no matter how powerful and cold-blooded Beatrix was, from this point forward, he would have to defend Katia from that monster.

>Yes, that’s right… I just have to do it…

>—Theodor had finally made his decision—to protect Katia with all he had.

>He glanced at Katia in the comms—she was staring back at him, her eyes wide with fright. Meeting her gaze, he gave her a nod to reassure her—as well as to gather his own resolve.

>If I don’t do this, I’ll…

You'd think it'd be Axmann who Theo would hate.

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>>142984802
Beato probably forbid her from doing so, that would open up one hell of a can of worms for a Werewolf pilot to claim herself as his sister in the middle of a combat zone before flying off. Considering his blind hatred of Beatrix and anyone associated with the Stasi I doubt Theo would take it well either.

>>142985067
Theo hasn't seen Axmann since he was suddenly and mysteriously released from imprisonment 3 years ago. He must consider the guy as just another faceless stasi mook since he operates largely behind the scenes getting others to do his dirty work while Beatrix is a very prominent and paraded figure in the Stasi, a perfect target to vent all his misplaced anger.

>>142985067
The sins never die.

>>142985759
Can't wash this blood off our hands

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>>142985885
Let the world fear us all.

Are the BETA a weapon to surpass metal gear?

>>142959231
What would it entail if it were real anyways? Theo being her lackey and helping her achieve her goals, because suddenly Theo's ideals changed?

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>>142986138
>Theo's ideals

>>142986115
no, this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yv8sC4N2gs

>>142986138

Theo has no ideals of his own, he only has sentiments.

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>>142986115
Metal gear would destroy the BETA.