Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1576

Where is the cute OP though?

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>>142921668

>>142921710
We made it 1500 threads without this shit

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ぞい子たちを強姦したい

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The double negatives in expressing what you must/have to do suck desu

>>142921852
i look at it like 'not doing is no good'

>>142921852
They're actually great. Everytime you encounter them while reading it's like you get a temporary reading speed boost

もう疲れた

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>>142921852
アウウ娘どもを殺さなきゃ！

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>ありやがんだ

Anyone know what this is meant to be? I was guessing it to be a compound verb, something like あり ＋ やがむ maybe, but can't find anything like the such in any dictionary.

渡加

>>142922067
Slurred version of ある and やがる? Probably

>>142922116
>Slurred
Well yagaru was the only thing I could think of, but んだ? Really nips?

>>142922147
Slurred/contracted ありやがるんだ

>>142922219
Oh, that makes sense I guess.

>>142921746
Fuck off you insufferable sperg.

>>142921888
Japanese feels weird like that. You'll be reading and when glancing over long strings of familiar kanji it is like your eyes fly off in front till eventually slowed down by a drop off in grammatical direction and a wall of images, nouns, etc. then speeding back off again in short bursts. Almost as though the 'grammatical stuff' was merely directing your minds eye to the meaningful chunks of what is actually there, like a torch in the dark illuminating regions of an old house.

>>142922470
familiar kana*
as in like chunks of cached memory

>>142922470
i dont get that with vertical text yet..

>>142922470
Are you the person that wrote that description of 間 that was posted in the other thread

>>142922554
Most of my reading materials are manga and I have found text easier to read, likely due to the familiarity and associations I've formed with the form. A lot of anons reckon that grammar for the most part is something that you overcome a lot earlier than you may assume.

>>142922590
I wasn't in the last thread but what makes you ask?

>>142922349
われなにいうとんねん
いてこますぞ

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If it's possible to learn kanji simply through vocab, then why do Japs, who should've seen them every single day for years and years, have to drill them through rote repetition to learn them?

I found this example in core2k:

彼は注射があまり好すきではありません。

He's not too fond of getting shots.

What is this supposed to mean? The phrase already means "he's not too fond of getting shots" without the ではありません so there must be an extra meaning to the phrase or something similar.

>>142923148
Acting like a manchild isn't something that dissolves when introduced to Japanese, anon.

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おはようおにいちゃん

東京大阪間、５００キロメートルを
自動車で時速２５０キロメートルではしったら
なんじかんでとうちゃくするでしょーか？

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>>142923187

>>142923229
Because they need to write them in their life and do the tests. You're most probably just a disgusting weeb who learns Japanese for H-content and everything you need is vocab and a bit of grammar.

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>>142923187

>>142923239
>The phrase already means "he's not too fond of getting shots" without the ではありません
To clarify, are you saying that
>彼は注射があまり好き
Means "He's not too fond of getting shots", to you? Could you explain how you came to this conclusion?

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>>142923187

>>142923258
もんくあっか？

>>142923187
I'll show you an even better magic trick. I'm going to make my dick disappear inside you.

>>142923287
２時間？　でも、自動車で時速２５０キロメートルでは現実ないと思うよ

>>142923351
彼は (as for him) 注射が(shots are) あまり(not much) 好(likeable)

He's not too fond of getting shots.

>誠君
Hmm I wonder how that's pronounced
>Names — 522 found

Oh boy

>>142923537
Just go with Makoto-kun

>>142923614
Yeah that's a pretty nice one, I'll wait to see if there's any other mention of it before I randomly pick one though

>>142923535
あまり doesn't mean not.

>>142923535
That's not how あまり works, at all.

>>142922470
Afaik when Japanese people speed read they mainly look at the kanji, more or less ignoring the kana/grammatical parts.

>>142923749
>>142923787

Not his fault desu. It's the fault of shitty dictionaries defining amari as "(not) too much" just because it is often used with negatives; this trips up beginners a lot.

>>142922349
To an impartial third party (I never cared about OP picture either way), you seem like the real insufferable sperg, getting way to assblasted that somebody approves of and defends the old OP picture.

From an earlier thread:

>>138275729
>>138275861

I think >>138275729 was right on this. I finally got to そこで in the DoIJG and remembered my old question from Hanahira. From what I read, そこで seems to be reserved for a volitional reason for taking an action, so it doesn't seem it could mean "accordingly" in this case.

>Skipped my reps for 4 weeks
Time to either kill myself or even worse find a different hobby

how do i get a greasemonkey script to trigger after json updates a new post

everywhere i google talks about ajax instead

>>142924097
趣味ってゆうよりゃ生き甲斐やで

>>142923980
The words that are only implied are between parentheses. Not the dictionary's fault if he's too stupid to get it.

>>142924214
Isn't JSON just a data storage format?

>>142924279
i guess, im total noob and just used the inspector console to see what is causing post updates and hoped i could hijack that from the native extension(that requests it) as a trigger

>>142923535
あまり・あんまり is frequently found paired in negative verb clauses, which is where the "not too" part of the meaning comes from. 余り itself refers to a remainder value, of which as a modifier to 好き is how you get the notion of an amount of "liking something" with the negatively conjugated copular, basically defining that "amount of [liking something]" to be negative overall.
You will eventually see this negative construct again in the form of のあまり~ない. Japanese is an agglutinative language, which unlike English uses conjugations to more or less dictate the overall meaning of a clause.
The TL;DR is to pay extra attention to how the very conjugates in a sentence to get a hint as to how things like adverbs and other modifiers are altered in meaning. The patterns are common so if you pay more attention early, you'll come to feel them more intuitively sooner.

>>142924009
Learn what the spoiler function is used for, you fucking sperg.

>土産
Every fucking time. It's fine for weeks, and then one day I'm just like "uhh, どさん?" and it's back to nothing again.

>>142924214
Listen for ThreadUpdate events and whatever event type native uses. Or use MutationObserver.

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>>142925626
just saw MutationObserver in a stackoverflow google, ill try that and threadupdate tomorrow cheers

>>142918967
Can you upload this deck somewhere.

>>142918967
Did you try center align (settings -> reviewing). What's your card template.

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I don't have much problem learning Japanese but my penmanship. Getting that samurai-ish effect is almost impossible for me.

>>142926053
You need an authentic samurai pencil to do it.

>>142926053
Practice makes perfect.

Your き and the okurigana for 醜い are wrong.

>>142923300
Eh, lingosteve. Anyone on that level yet?

>>142926053
Handwritten き doesn't have the belly anon

>>142926133
き is wrong?

>>142926133
Not him but his き is right. Just google some handwritting ppl tend to write it much worse.

>>142926240
>>142926265
Ohh I see

>>142926284
But you are wrong

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>that feeling of できない when you fail a matue card

>>142926240
Read actual handwritten Japanese, anon. It varies because people don't give a fuck.It doesn't fucking matter.

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>>142926445

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>>142926435
Is everyone here so focused on memorizing than writing?

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>>142926445

>>142926485
>>142926532
This is true tho. But it's good to know how it's actually supposed to be written. Do whatever you want I guess but some of us want to have a neat handwriting.

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>>142926635
Japanese people care about penmanship unfortunately. Once they flipped their shit after I showed them my handwritten research essay.

>>142926635
Yeah, no. It is "supposed" to be written like that in the same way the letter a is supposed to be written as "a". That's why I said read actual handwritting because it has nothing to do with neatness. Honestly there is very little more annoying than beginners trying to tell people what is "correct" when it is obvious that you have no real world experience and just like every fucking manchild you just want to be pointlessly "right" about something when it holds no real insight.

My handwriting is fine because I use it for actual communication with actual Japanese instead of being some sperg who has to "right on the Internet". Your guidance isn't necessary, champ.

>>142926924
>not 滅茶苦茶
One job.

autist from this thread needs to stop spamming shit about 4chan in Pekolulu streams

>>142926979
>Japanese people care about penmanship

I fucking wish

>>142926991
Okay but why are you so mad?

>>142927096
Are you the retard spamming in all caps?

>>142927315
nah
are you the "TOP KEK WHO BEST NEPU-NEPU" idiot?

>>142927394
No, I just opened the stream for the first time. Why are people calling her E3 chan?

>>142927663
/v/ found her somehow during a Dark Souls 3 DLC E3 announcement that was hosted on niconico - pure cancer ever since

>start reps
>get boner for no reason
>end up fapping when i finish them

whats wrong with me
this happens all the time

>>142927790

Me too, anon. In fact I just now had to stop and rub one out before I had even finished my reps. I think my mind is developing a Pavlovian erotic attraction to Anki.

>>142927836
how do we stop it?

>>142927897
Why stop it? Embrace it.

>>142927897
Write an add-on that shows you dicks for every 2 cards you get wrong.

>>142928021
>2 years later
>come back gay

>>142928037
I wish I was born gay. Men are superior to whiny bitches.

>>142928021
>look at dicks to STOP being aroused
>>142928037
>thinks dicks are gay

I remember when I was this innocent.

>>142928159
I don't

>目が覚める
Why does this expression exist? Not only is it longer to say than just "wake up" (覚める), but it doesn't even make sense.

>>142928219
you know how in movies when people are confused or hallucinating they rub their eyes with their hands to try and wake up

yeah

>>142928219
I could say the same thing about any english phrase or figure of speech.

At the end of the day, having more ways to describe an action is a good thing because it gives writers more avenues to keep their writing fresh.

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For >>142909342.

>>142928219
>to wake up or snap out of it
Your eyes can be open without being fully awake.

>>142928368
How long have you been at that for?

>>142928442

Those final 35 kanji to get to 2000? Anki says an hour and a half, I slept in between those two posts. This deck? I started mining in February but barely did anything for two months, I started for real in April.

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I think I'm fired up to do even better.

>>142928586
stop posting you fucking retard, no one cares about your shitty writing. especially when you're too stupid to clean up and make it readable.

>In order for Japanese to become able to speak, it must learn the phrases/words 何百 and 何千

>>142928586

I don't care about your handwriting either, but that other guy is very rude, don't feel down about his post.

>>142928723
>that not readable
You're the stupid one dude

>>142927790
>>142927836
Holy shit I'm not the only one

新幹線を乗る。

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>>142929010

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>>142929010

>>142928808
>>142928586

>>142929010
相談を乗る。

>>142929010
あの長いやつ？

>>142929273
長い物を乗ることは大好き

>>142928723
>>142928808
It's impossible for me to become a Japanese expert in 5 months. I'm not like you guys, sorry.

>>142928830
I don't mind what others think, I'm just practicing. I'm not going to stop posting though.

>>142929339
長い物を乗ることを大好きってほうがいいかも

Is it ok to use furigana when studying the Core deck if I'm learning kanji separately?

>>142929492
no

and don't bother with kanji

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なつやさいといえば

ぴーまんたべたい

おにいちゃんちんじゃおろーすーつくって

>>142929492
What kind of sense does that make

Learning readings with kanji is way harder than doing it with vocab

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Ero LNs are great.

I would never try to read something like this in English or in my mother tongue but damn, dat japanese literature

>>142929986
Man I understood all of that, got more of a boner from how impressed I am with myself, usually I'm always at a complete loss whenever someone posts a random page of something on here

That's good shit though, I definitely need to pick something like that up, I love LNs enough as it is, the lewd aspect would make it even better

>>142929986
>ニュートラル
>what the fuck is this
>try to pronounce it
>oh

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>>142929986

>>142929986
>reading on a phone
>reading horizontal
stop

>>142930378
I had that with シックスナイン

Except even saying it out loud didn't help and I had to Jisho it

Fucking wasei

>>142930511
>シックスナイン
>99.9999%
eh?
oh

>>142929986
Is that from the new yotsuba?

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>今日も勉強しなかった

>>142930904
>Attention whoring about how shit you are

Pretty much as low as it gets

>>142929986
Oh, this is one of those moments where you see the studies are paying off.

I needed a dictionary for a lot of stuff though and I don't feel I got everything word by word, but being able to understand is aaahhhh.

And no, no boners to be had.

After this, I'm gonna even do my reps I've missed the last 3 days.

>>142929986

DL link thanks.

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>>142930904

>>142930967

>storyofmylife.jpg

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>>142930967

Does anyone have that DJT OP picture by "Chad" (or was it Jamal?)
I couldn't find it in the archive

>>142929986
>ちゃんちゃん。

>>142931606
You don't want it.

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>word has 10 different translations for all the different situations it can be used in
>none of them fit the instance i read it in
every time

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>>142930967
>>142931096
>>142931365

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This question is probably a diamond dozen around here: What delineates a 'good' from an 'easy' in your mind? How quickly do you have to be able to recognise it? Do you have to be able to use it in a sentence?

>>142932125
Easy is for when you get a card right without even having to think about it.

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>>142932125
>Diamond dozen

>>142932125
Easy is when I know it before it comes up for the first time.

>>142932125
Easy is for cards that I hate and don't want to see again for a long time.

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>it's a 最終回
このドラマ観ちまえぇおめえら

>>142932523

Don't stop posting these.

>>142932523
Stop posting these.

>>142931948
You mean you didn't properly understand what was actually happening so you didn't think any of the translations fit

>>142932523
She looks Korean to me.

>>142932523
sorry i'm not a アラサーおばさん

>>142932649
Wouldn't be so hard to understand what was happening if one of the words wasn't a random mess of "means whatever you wish for"

fuck this meme language

>>142932523
Not enough cleavage to be Korean

You saw nothing

>>142932668
>アラサー
勉強になった、ありがとう ドラマアンチくん

>>142921834
「レイプ」のほうがいいかな

>>142932763
It makes perfect sense in the context of the language, you're only confused because it doesn't translate well over into English

>>142932763
>i'm too stupid to realize when a word is used in an idiomatic phrase and look up the whole phrase, so I just look up the single word and get confused
this is my guess

/djt/

How do you expose someone who is pretending to know Japanese on the internet? I'm thinking of a couple medium difficult sentences that aren't able to be googled - anyone got something?

>>142933062
Why not just ask him to speak some Japanese

>>142931895
But I do.

>>142933062
その店員はとっても不親切な人だった
something random

>>142933163
fuck it translates perfectly on google. never mind

>>142926053
That's not how you write 僕

You wrote something like「亻業」, whereas ぼく　has no stroke down the middle. See the difference between 業 and 僕 aside from the 亻?

I used to often make this mistake too. My Japanese teacher made me commit sudoku

Also ぎ and カ aren't supposed to be written all computer-like when using real handwriting

>>142933163
Google translate translates that perfectly, needs to be less generic and have more slang n shit

>>142933163
Even google translate gets that 100% right. I was thinking of some kind of phrase that he would take too literally or something

>>142933197
>>142933210
>>142933231
samefag

>>142922470
What?

>>142933231
What about 船頭多くして船山に登る

Google translate doesn't know what to do with that one, and google only has results in Japanese, if he knows how to use a dictionary he'll be able to find it out though

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>>142933258
also
>two anons posted at the same time
>samefag

>>142933062
Just grab some lines from Dies Irae.

>>142926240
>>142926435
>I have been writing き and さ wrong all this time
I swear, never in my life have I felt so stupid.

>>142933062
What are the circumstances? If there's no time limit at all that might be difficult to achieve. I'd use a picture though so the guy can't easily copy paste the text and google it.

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>>142931948
>sentence has 5 words with 10 definitions each.
>try all 10^5 possibilities
>none fit

Should I go for n3 deck first or work on grammar? Inb4 in parallel, I keep forgetting shit as I am retarded

>>142933446
You can technically write those with the strokes connected, but only if you're a sufficiently cute high school girl

>>142933530
>JLPT decks
meme

>>142933062
Talk in japanese and see how they respond?

But if you want a simple test just pick a grammar structure that google gets completely wrong like 信じるんじゃなかった

「勝ったひとは、まけたひとから点数をもらい、高得点を目指します。」

Why is the stem of もらう used there? Is this some grammar I don't know?

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Shiiiiiiiiit

>>142933623
Because it isn't the end of the sentence, you can use the verb stem or the て form to connect sentences together

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>>142933623
>「勝ったひとは、まけたひとから点数をもらい、高得点を目指します。」
?

>>142933666
That's still better than the Mr T shit.

>>142933677
Thanks, anon, I only knew about the て form part.

>>142933705
I'm trying to play an official Nintendo mahjong game for the DS (Yakuman DS) to learn how to play mahjong. It has Mario characters and such so it probably uses easy Japanese. I'd rather learn through a Japanese source than to use a western guide and I don't want to risk encountering complex grammar so I ended up choosing this.

>>142933904
Tbh it doesn't really matter what language you learn mahjong in since all the terms are chinese

>>142933062
Do you know they don't know Japanese or are you just projecting yourself onto them?

>>142933904
>I'm trying to play an official Nintendo mahjong game for the DS (Yakuman DS) to learn how to play mahjong.
Nice, may you get 国士無双s

>>142933972
Doesn't riichi mahjong use different terms from Chinese majong, though?

>>142934100
Probably the same terms assuming you're playing them both in japanese. I've never played chinese mahjong. But all the terms in riichi mahjong are japanese approximations of the chinese terms

Like even counting is different. 123456789 is
イー　リャン　サン　スー　ウー　ロー　パー　キュー

>>142934336
oops i missed チー　（７）

The captcha sometimes says 選択します and sometimes 選択してください.
Is this an error or can します form be used as a command too?

>you will never get yakuman tsumo by a cute japanese girl
https://youtu.be/4pA_wiL1j1A?t=4m9s (4:00)

>>142934417
Man I have no idea how any of this shit works

>>142934414
It's more like it indicates what the button does

>>142934756
Except it's not near a button. I should have posted the entire sentence. It says
Xの画像をすべて選択します
/ Xの画像をすべて選択してください

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Tried reading for the first time after I got almost 2000 card (1800~) on Core2k6k and reading Tae Kim's grammar guide until other uses of Te-form.

Shit. I'm not ready for this. I need to brush up my grammar more, I guess.

What's the average months that one can read beginner VNs?

>>142935149
No, you need to keep reading. Trust me. Knowledge of grammar point isn't enough to understand actual, non-textbook writing. You need exposure.

>>142935149
Don't trust the first anon who quoted you. As it is often mentioned in these threads, you should only read after finishing Tae Kim and Core 2k.

>>142935242
>reading tae kim's grammar guide until other uses of Te-form

No, he needs to finish tae kim first

>>142935149

Don't trust the other two anons. You should absolutely finish Tae Kim and start reading DOJG, but Core will never prepare you for vocab rape. Finish the grammar guide and dive in.

>>142935361
Yea, I passed over that for whatever reason. What I wanted to tell him is that there's more to reading than knowledge of grammar as it's presented in textbooks. That's not to say you don't need that knowledge as well.

>>142935149
Why do you have that much vocab yet you aren't done with TK?

You should've finished it ASAP and start reading constantly.

>>142935349
>>142935405
>>142935361
>>142935242
How fucking stupid of me. I was too hasty to dive head first into reading when I haven't even finished grammar guide.

I'll stop reading for now and focus on finishing up grammar.

>>142935579
Routines are a powerful thing

>>142935149
When I was 1800 words into core2k/6k I had already finished Tae Kim, Hanahira and Yotsubato's first two volumes, what the fuck have you been doing aside from Anki if none of these?

>>142935149
What kind of shit sites do you browse, Jettro?

>>142935149
You can technically read before finishing the "advanced grammar" section of tae kim but I wuoldn't recommend it. IIRC te form is way before that so back to the books you go.

>>142935631

Not him. Back when I was starting out I did 100 words/day in Core for a month and did basically nothing else.

>>142935708
>Jettro
Jettro you are a bad, hentai person
ONE OF US

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Does anyone know what level of difficulty the manga karekano has? It's not on the CoR but I've been thinking about giving it a try if I find it raw.
I just need to be ready for the 切腹 if its really hard.

>>142935579
>>142935631
I mainly focused on Anki. Haven't had much free time juggling through Uni and learning moonrunes. Now that I've got a big break, figured to do Tae Kim and was too excited to take a peak into reading, realizing I'm not ripe enough.

Fuuuuck why are there still always so many words I don't know whenever I pick anything up

Looking up words is so fucking 面倒

>>142935149
Don't trust the previous 7 anons who replied you, trust me instead.

Do run a mile everyday so you can build more stamina to endure harder studying sessions.

That aside, finish up your grammar, it's not hard. Also, like a previous anon said, non-textbook grammar is slight different, so you need exposure to get used to some contractions/slurs.

Just don't keep mindlessly reading guides and doing exercises without reading.
Kanas -> Grammar -> Read stuff with a dic to build Vocab/Kanji

>>142935800
>>142935708
Didn't bother to edit out anything since this is my brother's long-forgotten toaster laptop. Decided to salvage it and use for my scientific needs.

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>>142935149
Also, don't read Flyable Heart as your very first thing ever in Japanese, it might be easy but it's not that easy, and you don't want to ruin such a masterpiece due to lack of understanding. You should finish some easy manga like Yotsubato, or Hanahira first.

>>142936057
id love to read stuff with a dick up my butt

>>142935149
Don't listen to any of them.
Kanji anon, focus on the kanji.

I really hope Hitori no Kuoria doesn't end up revolving around game speak, I feel like killing myself trying to make sense of all this shit

>>142936294
B-but some anon told me that kanji study is useless.

>>142936294
Don't listen to this guy. You don't have to study kanji. Jyouyou kanji that is. You'll encounter them so often you'll quickly memorize them on your own. Focus your studies on hyougai kanji.

>>142935149
>Tried reading for the first time after [...] reading Tae Kim's grammar guide until other uses of Te-form.
ボケ

And how fucking slowly have you been going through Tae Kim? You must've been doing Core for 3 months if you're that far into it, yet somehow you've only just got past Tae Kim's basic grammar section. Tae Kim should take you like 2 weeks, man.

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>>142936138
Since you've read it as well I'll just ask you, there's something I'm worried I misunderstood.
Everyone is confused how 晶 got into the school even though 皇 flat out admits that it was him, how come no one simply asked him why he did it?

>>142935879
Grammar and reading are both more important than Core. Core is only there to help you a little bit when you first start reading by making it so that you don't have to look up as many words.

If you have to choose between Tae Kim and doing Core, read Tae Kim. If you have to choose between reading and doing Core, read. Core is a luxury, and once you start reading it no longer has a purpose since from that point on you're in mining territory.

>>142936338
Trust me anon, kanji is the way.

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>>142936338
Don't tell me you fell for those shitposts from last month...
https://desustorage.org/a/search/text/kanji%20useless/end/2016-05-12/

>>142936654
no way dude if yoju just do enough flashcards なんとかなるさ

>>142936928
自分の人生ちゃんとしろよ爆笑

>>142936928
fucking sakura fag, how many phases did he go through? its amazing how he went from 0 to 100 to 0.

>>142937259
Dude... awkward. He's standing right next to you.

i have 200 cards in my mining deck now

how many should i get before i actually start using it

>>142937401
What's stopping you from just using it now?

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>>142937292
literally made me close my window and door and turn on the light, fuck's sake anon

>>142935149
>flyable heart

that's not a beginner vn anon, there's your problem

>>142937259
in life you do things for a while and then you do something else stagnation is death

think about it the next time you open this thrad

>>142937494
sheesh calm down, bill wurtz

>>142937442
i dont want to run out of words

>>142937401
I've tried two methods:
>do the cards at a suitable pace until you stop getting new cards, and then read more
>rep all the cards soon after adding them, adjust your reading pace to keep the reps manageable

The latter is harder to do, since you have to stop reading when you still have enough fight in you to do the reps, but it's more efficient.

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この車の重さはとっても軽いね。何？間違う？重い？

>>142937658
Just mine enough words everyday then

Is this grammatically correct for "I eat fish?"

私は魚を食べる.

is it possible to mine shit from an emulator?

>>142937666
Maybe I should've followed one of those methods, but the content just was too compelling for me.

I now have around 2.5k unseen cards and I'm already doing 40 a day. There's just no end to all these words, man.

>>142938020
i think its ga instead of o

>>142938020
魚 sounds a bit stiff, try "ファットジューシーペニス" instead, sounds more natural

>>142938020
Yes

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>>142935149
I was going to say just keep reading, but you should finish TK at least.

This screenshot has my 2 failed attempts at reading FH, and the start of my successful 3rd attempt. Although there is a gap of 14 months, I wasn't actively studying at the time, so I didn't understand it any better the 3rd time, but I just didn't give up. Once you start, just keep going.

>>142936501
He is lying so Shou gets to stay IIRC, it wasn't actually him.

If you pay very careful attention you might be able to guess who it actually was.

>>142938238
Yeah literally just got to the part where he clears it up. Still strange how no one took him serious despite, well, accepting it as truth at the time.

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Is it normal to be able to type in japanese but not be able to speak it at all? I feel like I should be able to speak it but I just can't. How is it with some of you ESLs?

>>142938020
Yeah

>>142938046
PSP? If so then yeah
https://mega.nz/#F!g00SQJZS!pm3bAcS6qHotPzJQUT596Q

>>142937470
Is this true? Because that'd raise my confidence

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>>142921852
there isn't a positive version of なければならない?

>>142938282
Once you get more used to his personality you'll see why no one takes him seriously.

hi

>>142938353
I really started talking English when I started talking to friends and shit over Teamspeak and had no trouble then, but I did have some English speaking practice back in school so it's probably not the same.
Honestly you should be fine if you just talk to yourself a little. I don't know your skill level, but don't be worried about talking to yourself in grammatically wrong sentences and "getting used to them", that's a dumb myth that's blown out of proportion.

Playing video games in Japanese counts as studying, right DJT?

...Right?

>>142938353
perfect, thank you

i wanted to play the jp version of p3p

>>142938482
Depends, does it have zero dialogue like Yume Nikki?

まなべないのか
たすけて
captcha: sortie helean

>>142938387

Flyable Heart and other moege most definitely have easier Japanese than other, more difficult materials, but don't forget these are indeed all stories meant to be read by adult native speakers. If you are having trouble with it, (and it would be strange if you weren't), you could read something easier like Hanahira or Read Real Japanese, or just soldier on with it.

>>142938803
Read real japanese is actually pretty hard

>>142938905

Is it? Probably is desu, I just assumed that it would be more palatable because it has translations to help you along. You could always do some child-level graded readers then.

>start watching my favorite variety show
>it's yet another "Mokomichi helps some ippanjin cunts express familial love" episode
At least it's only the first 15 minutes, but god, these segments are so fucking boring. Get back to fucking with people already.

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練習は順調にしてまーす

>>142939050
Warum lernst du deutsch? Gibt hier nichts außer Kanacken.

>>142939050
Wir müssen die Juden ausrotten

How does one pronounce ネトウヨ?

neto'uyo or netou'yo?
My instinct tells me it's the former, but I don't know for sure.

>>142939050
>duolingo
I can't handle that shit after learning japanese it just seems too much like a free rosetta stone

If I was to seriously learn a european language I'd just buy a graded reader and start reading from day 1

>>142939050
Viel Erfolg. Gib' dein Bestes.

>>142939091
ドイツへ転勤するから
二ヶ月後に移動する予定

>>142939297
Danke schön

>>142939356
ドイツのどこへ引っ越しするの

>>142939485
München

>>142939356
>>142939510
>Job
Normaler verschwinde aus meinem Faden reeeeee

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段々自習のが楽しくなっている
self-studying is gradually becoming more enjoyable

did I write that correctly?

>>142939510
まあ、あそこには元Gastarbeiter族は殆ど無いから、大丈夫だろう

>>142939297
>that apostrophe
It's the normal imperative of geben in 2nd person singular. Do you also write "Lauf' Forrest, lauf'"?

>>142939588
Personally I'd put the 段々 after the が and leave the の away, but better check that with someone that is confirmed to know his shit.

>>142939588
Sounds kinda weird having the 段々 first

>>142928551
>I started for real in April.
Why are so many cards green if you just started recently. Did you change your Kanji Grid interval?

>>142939196
thers no apostrophe japanse is all even syllables or w/e

>>142939588
>自習
implies you have classes but learn outside of them by yourself.

>>142939196
rikai pronounces it as ノオヂオ

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>>142939711
>>142939809
I saw it being used before 仕事 in core with が right after. I just changed it little

Core: 段々仕事が楽しくなってきました
Me: 段々自習が楽しくなっている

>>142939974
Oh thanks for the heads up

The √Letter trial is out on the Japanese PSN today. Haven't finished it yet but so far it's pretty easy Japanese with an interesting story and gorgeous art.

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Why is this allowed?

>>142939900
I used those to point out how I'd split the word up in the pronunciation.

is the "tou" connected like in Toukyou or is it split up? In the end it depends upon how the composition of the word happened. Considering the meaning of the word the first part being "neto" (=net) and the second part being "uyo" (so splitting up) would make the most sense to me, but I don't know for sure.

>>142939588
gradually self studying became enjoyable

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If it's my first time reading through it, how long should I spend studying a lesson in Tae Kim before moving on? An hour? 30 minutes?

From my understanding I'll probably have to refer back to at some point no matter what. I feel like if I spend too little time on each lesson I'll forget them sooner though.

>>142940136
Is the right side, what is considered "simplified" in China?

>>142940201
there is no splitting up

>>142940470
no thats some handwriting shortcuts for not chinese

>>142940467
Just go through it quick, 3-4 lessons a day should be sufficient and about 30-45? minutes.

>>142940114
Thanks for the heads up

>249 notes added

Mining is pain

>>142940467
i reread the whole thing twice and moved on to dojg

>>142940538
Oh alright, that's about the rate I've been going then. Thanks. I'm paranoid about forgetting some of them but I guess it's inevitable starting out.

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皆...
皆は僕を信じている。さてこそ...

>>142940853
いいえ、信じてないよ、諦めろ

>>142940643
uh i meant reread once*

Can someone translate this for some internet points?

> さあて、ガンガン無理していくぞ！
> 無理のしすぎの前のめりの全開の一番先っぽまで出し惜しみしないぞ

My first take would be:
> Okay, let's get rowdy!
> Don't chicken out!
(assuming my translation is correct, this is the limit of my writing capabilities...)

>>142940098
I think a more natural way of saying is
独学すればするほど段々楽しい
独学 means to study by yourself without classes. Sounds also smarter

Has anyone seen the translator for the pokemon conference at the E3. that guy was so fast. how do I reach his level?

https://youtu.be/UC-uLg_5RIA?t=11m55s

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>>142941491
Thank you for this

>>142940136
6 is fucked up

>>142941558
By using Japanese for hours every single day for 15+ years.

>>142941558
By scripting and memorization.

How long did you people take to finish TK?

>>142942143
About 2 weeks I think

>>142939864

Well, I didn't do nothing the first two months. I have ~5000 vocab cards now and about 1000 of them are from february and march.

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>that mental crash when you're reading a kana sentance and run face-first into a kanji

WHY CAN'T I JUST KNOW JAPANESE ALREADY I'VE STUDIED FOR MONTHS

>>142942597
You're not good enough.

>~3 hours today going through shin kanzen master

I'm starting to feel like this isn't really worth it just to get a few extra points on the test

at least i'm actually learning a few things

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>>142942597
never felt that feel but DON'T GIVE UP. YOU CAN LEARN JAPANESE

アニメから日本語を学んだ楽勝爆笑

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人間が直面するであるう問題
problems humans will likely confront.

なるほど。俺は日本語が全部分かっているよ。

where or how do I get those kanji grids? I'm retarded, send help

>>142942597
I started learning Japanese in the '00s, before the birth of these threads.

I've been studying all these years and still only recognise <300 kanji.

Don't give up. It takes time.

>>142944144
You should give up.

>>142944120

https://www.google.com/search?q=kanji+grid+anki&oq=kanji+grid+anki&aqs=chrome..69i57.3076j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

>>142944204
rude

>>142944144
is this post serious or are you just mocking the people from /r/learnjapanese

really hoping its the latter

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>>142944144

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What does /djt/ do in its spare time?

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>>142945103
勉強する

>>142944337
got it, but I cant seem to make it work with the All in one kanji RTK deck

>>142945180

Check the fields of the card and make sure you are copying the name of the kanji expression correctly. No quotes or brackets or anything.

>>142945103
go on walks at my local forest preserve and be envious of all the cute couples

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>>142945103
read anime and watch anime books

gee i love japanese

>>142945103

Play 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズDX, オナニー, make neat OP images for DJT.

>>142945223
how do I tell the addon to pick the kanji that are in that deck?
I don't understand what do you mean by the name of the kanji expression... where?

Has anyone here used Kodansha? I'm thinking about using it but I'm interested in seeing some opinions first.

>they fell for the tae kim -> reading/anime meme
>not using genki, then tobira before moving onto NHK news easy and lang8

>>142945344
New enough that nobody who has used it is actually good at japanese yet

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>>142945342

install addon -> tools -> generate kanji grid

>>142945344

Everyone sucks off kodansha nowadays but I think RTK is better solely because of the resources koohii provides. Plus I don't think there is a PDF anywhere.

>>142945103
if you don't spend every single waking moment in anki you will never learn japanese

精液は大好物

>>142945456
I typed "kanji" but it pops 0 result
できない

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携帯は傷だらけになっているの...どうしよう...

>>142945532
精液よりチンカスの方が好きです。

汚いおっさんの臭いおちんぽも舐めたい。

>>142945649

Which did you type:

「"kanji"」
or
「kanji」
?

And why did you decide to type that? Is lowercase "kanji" the name of your kanji field?

>>142945695
Oh fug, I didn't realize I had to put 「」

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>>142945695
I typed: kanji "kanji" and "Kanji" and the only one that got me results was plain kanji but those result weren't accurate to what I've been studying. I checked the cards on the deck and the field where the kanji are is called "Kanji"

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埃だらけのＰＳＰをちゃんと拭ったよ

>>142945884

Type Kanji, no quotes, and check match exactly.

>Learning kanji by drilling Core
I can't do this. I learn so quickly using furigana that I make basically no progress in comparison. Any tips?

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>>142945918
awesome that worked thank you!

>>142946044

Post it you fuck. I didn't walk you all the way through it to get blue balled.

崩壊 and 破壊 almost sound that same that I always confuse their meanings

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。。得意げに指を立てルイズが言った。
What was she saying? I assume its the next quoted line but I cannot wrap my head around how that works, generally you put it after the line is spoken?

>>142946106
恥ずかしい

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おにいちゃんおなかすいた

ぐーぺこ

>>142947795
うんこでもくってろ