Anime Masterpieces

In this thread, we deride OP for being a fucking faggot and obvious newfag.

>>142532845
>LOGH
>masterpiece

It falls short in the technical side.

>>142532935
>we
/a/ is not your personal army.

>>142532845
Fuck off.

Area 88 is trash

>>142533043
That's one way of admitting you're a moron; say something is shit because you're not smart enough to explain why.

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>>142533182
I don't think you should be talking about what /a/ is and isn't when you clearly got here yesterday.

Rose of Versailles would be a masterpiece if not for it abysmally slow build up in its first half. Discuss

>>142533408
I wasn't much a fan of the latter half either.

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>>142533374
You're the one who's new.

>>142533803

Watch out guys he has a picture of this thread. Your anime list doesn't even include Naruto Bleach or One Piece, what a fucking newfag.

>>142533182
It has some of the worst dialogue I've come across in anime.

>"Sunset...to me it's the same crimson as blood"

>"I'm a devil incarnate, fueled by the flames of hatred!"

>"So is it true that bastard Boris sleeps with the light on?"
>"He says he's afraid that if he goes into the darkness, he'll never come out again"

That's all within the first half hour.

>>142533893
Shame on the anime for taking poetic license. Dialogue should be made abundantly simple and direct for retards like yourself.

>>142533893
Anime is extremely corny, you just now realizing this? Area 88 is still a masterpiece.

>>142533974
Yes, simple and direct or edgy and pretentious, those are the only two options.

>>142534056
>Anime is extremely corny

Stop making these sweeping generalizations, it makes you look like an idiot.

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>>142532845
>doesn't even know what masterpiece means
>posts shit anime
Can I be cool too?

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always #1

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Eva
Perfect Blue
GitS
Porco Rosso

No Evangelion. Cracker, excuse me.

>>142533704
>moeshit

Two out of eight ain't bad

>>142534296
>GitS
lmao dude

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>>142534297

>>142534119
While there's obviously some exceptions, anime is generally cheesy. To deny it would just show a lack of self awareness and perspective. I never said it was a bad thing, I like Area 88 very much after all.
>>142534133
Ping Pong and Akira are very much masterpieces though. Should have put Guilty Crown or something.

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>>142534330

>>142532979
>Masterpiece or chef d'œuvre (French for lit. 'Work of (the) master') in modern use refers to a creation that has been given much critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill, profundity, or workmanship. Historically, the word refers to a work of a very high standard produced in order to obtain membership of a Guild or Academy.
How is LoGH not a "greatest work of a person's career or [...] a work of outstanding creativity, skill, profundity, or workmanship"

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K-On!

>>142534385
>While there's obviously some exceptions, anime is generally cheesy. To deny it would just show a lack of self awareness and perspective.

Keep moving those goalposts anon, I can list PLENTY of serious anime. Anime is a medium, a medium which includes works that vary across the entire spectrum of literary themes.

>>142534398
>fate
lmao dude

>>142534489
>only one exclamation point
Correct

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>>142532845
>Rec thread
>This many serious replies

>>142534532
Anime still is no where as good as the peaks of other mediums. There are paragraphs of karamazov that contain more insight into the human condition than many of my favorite shows.

>>142534587
Just put those goalposts on a fucking truck why don't you, wouldn't want you to hurt your back.

>>142534296
>>142534297
Evangelion isn't a masterpiece you stupid idiots.

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>>142534587
I can hardly think of any other work that provides as much inside into human nature as Sekkou Boys to be quite honest.

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>>142534750
Anta baka?

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>>142534442
>creativity/profundity
Political space drama. Seems absolutely ground breaking. Except Star Trek did it first and better.

>skill/workmanship
Simply: Akira.

>greatest work of a person's career
Macross and Mushishi are, objectively, better.

>>142534586
This is the 2x4 thread.

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>>142534874
>Mushishi

>>142534874
>star trek
>episodic show with stupid makeup, hammed up personalities and soap opera drama is better
Confirmed retard.

>>142535127
Tripfag idiot.

Filtered.

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There are 3 masterpieces

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>>142535208
>galaxy express 999
>mobile suit gundam
>masterpieces
I know this is bait, but

>>142535208
This is some truly legendary bait, well done.

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>>142534874
>akira

>>142535030
>not addressing significance of TOS as the father of modern politcal space drama
>not addressing the creavity/profundity of LoGH within that context
>r-retard
Stop projecting.

>>142534874
>Comparing star trek and LoGH
Star Trek is a bunch of semi-episodic misadventures of a crew of diplomats

LoGH is the recounting of the rise and fall of empires.

At any rate Star Trek likely doesn't count as a Space Opera owing to its lack of chivalric heroism, and real warfare (skirmishes and daring escapades aboard one ship doesn't really count)

>implying skill is exclusively related to animation quality

>Macross
>Mushishi
They share a studio and that's about it

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Is it a masterpiece ? A good anime ? Or just some regular chinese cartoon I particularly enjoyed because I have shit tastes ?

Boku no pico is the greatest anime of all time.
OF ALL TIME!

>>142535443
You don't know what projecting is.

TOS was just a fun space adventure series, not a full on political drama like LotGH. Stop applying your idiotic headcanons to everything.

>>142535661
>A good anime ?
This option, it was pretty flawed, but it had a solid ost, compelling characters, overall mediocre animation, but competent visual direction and a solid plot.

>>142534649
what? what goalposts?

>>142535786
We started at all anime is cheesy and ended at "W-well ruslit is b-better"

>>142534649
I mean obviously karamazov is an extreme example as it is one of the greatest piece a human creation ever, but the point stands.

>>142535903
i'm not the same guy as the cheesy.

>>142535512
>space opera - n. a novel, movie, or television program set in outer space, typically of a simplistic and melodramatic nature
>implying multiple civilizations weren't dying out or losing power during TOS
>implying the scope of TOS wasn't HUGE(multiple civilizations encountered) compared to the small scale of LoGH
>director shared
Thank you for making my points.

>>142535729
>still not addressing any points within the context of the conversation
>hasn't even seen a single TOS episode to realize the scope of what the series tackled - racism/sexism/nationalism/war/religion
>nominated for multiple emmy's as a drama series and won Hugo awards for Best Dramatic Presentation
Tackling political issues, nominated for dramatic series awards and winning, but it's not a drama? Explain yourself.

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>>142535915
Comparing literature and anime is fucking asinine, for many many reasons, the main one being is that there is easily thousands of times more written works than there are anime, and that people have been writing centuries, whereas anime has only been produced in any reasonable quantity for a few decades. There is no reason to compare the two, and doing so proves nothing.

Evangelion had better character dynamics than Karamazov, Notes from Underground is Dostoevsky's greatest work, Hemmingway is far superiour to any Russian author and I fucked you're waifu

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Oreimo is the greatest anime of this century, no need to discuss about it, it's a fact.

>>142534442
>the highest possible standard in everything ranging from storytelling to technical quality
OP literally mentioned technical quality as a requirement for this thread, which disqualifies LoGH.

And your definition doesn't really work either, since it's an adaption. Everything good about it is from the source material, the anime itself adds nothing aside from the inherent enjoyment of visuals, the direction, animation and art were all dodgy. It's a unique series by anime standards and very enjoyable, but it falls short of being a masterpiece because it doesn't take advantage of the medium.

>>142537704
the novels are garbage.

>>142537768
I didn't say they were a masterpiece either. But the point is an adaption doesn't deserve credit for the story itself, just the way it presents it.

>>142537841
The anime is magnitudes better than the novels

>>142537704
muh source material

>>142536230
>space opera - n. a novel, movie, or television program set in outer space, typically of a simplistic and melodramatic nature
Shitty vague definition. See wikipedia for a non-trash definition.

>LoGH
>small scale
>compared to ST:TOS
nigga

>hurr dozens of civilizations
Doesn't matter how many civilizations they encounter when they only ever meet like 10 of them in a bar or some shit. I've never seen any star trek, but I doubt there was ever a scene in any of them where hundreds of millions of people die.

>shared director
SDF Macross shared director with the OVA director.

>>142537704
>I have not watched OTANW or MCITSOS: the post

Come back when your opinion is worth more than the bandwidth it took to deliver it to my screen

>>142534133
>SEED
>Not SEED Destiny

You had ONE job

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>>142532845
Some of my picks.

>>142538358
Okay but that yellow template is revolting.

>>142534587
This is always the most retarded type of comparison. The fact you think one medium is better based on fucking Karamazov on the basis of it's insight into the human condition and are implying this is some sort of objective rating for the quality of a medium is just silly. There is no objective scale for which to measure a quality of a work, so by trying to imply one medium is better than another based on personal preference objectively doesn't work.

>>142538358
What's upper middle?

>retards trying to say area 88 is shit
Kill yourselves

>>142534532
The Illiad, The Bible and Don Quixote are cheesy as well, yet they are still masterpieces.

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Cel Animation:
>Sadness of Belladonna
>Angel's Egg
>Evangelion
>Ghost in the Shell
>Revolutionary Girl Utena
>Princess Mononoke
>Serial Experiments Lain
>Perfect Blue
Digital Animation:
>FLCL
>Mushishi
>Mononoke
>Kaiba
>Casshern Sins
>Tatami Galaxy
>Kyousougiga
>Tale of Princess Kaguya

>>142541697
I don't really care for anime that isn't intellectually stimulating to some degree.

What's the name of this one with the train right next to LoGH and Macross?

It's good or just one of those pretencious trash that you guys pretend that you like to look smart and cool?

>>142542080
>I can't appreciate art, so others must be pretending!
Fuck off digi.

>>142542236
Say whatever you want bro

>>142532845
>Boring Robo
>masterpiece

>>142542236
At least I know I'm right and you're just spouting baseless assumptions.

>>142541538
Fucking jump off a bridge you cancerous shit

Clannad AS
Little Busters (VN)
Aria the Origination
Ping Pong
Ashita no Joe (manga)

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>>142534133
>Akira
>masterpiece
u wot m8?

>>142543862
Were you born in 2000?

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>>142543837
Fuck off idiot.

>>142532845
>LotGH
Stop, the direction was barely competent and the execution not even so.

>>142543930
Why would you take a tripfag seriously?

>>142532845
Can someone identify the anime in OP's pic of the boy by the windows and the girl. Looks comfy

>>142543862
How contrarian can you be?

>>142543996
Seriously lurk more because it's embarrassing to not recognize that.

>>142543996
Watch more anime and lurk moar newshit

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ftfy op.

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>>142544084
>>142544123

I am a /fit/izen, how do you think I should specialize in anime. Help me out please

>>142543996

https://www.google.com.jm/search?q=whispers+of+the+heart&oq=whispers+of+the+heart&aqs=chrome..69i57.4734j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

whispers of the heart by ghibli

>>142544244
Don't spoonfeed the babbys

>>142544244
thanks, may the gods double all the gains you make from now on

>>142544355
Go back to /fit/ or watch more anime

>>142544355
No problem m8

>>142532845
shit taste

>>142544213
Read the fucking sticky.

>>142532845
>Magnetic Rose
Good ta-
>Mimi wo Sumaseba
What the everloving fuck is wrong with you?

>>142544473
Mimi wo Sumaseba is one of the best films of all time what the fuck is wrong with you?

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>>142544199
FINDS

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>>142544199
inb4 deletion for spam

>>142544584
It made me want to gag every ten seconds. Love triangles, talking about studying overseas and getting married when they're a bunch of fucking tweens... oh yeah and the godawful singing. It's terrible. I will hate it until the day I die.

>>142544736
It's a beautiful coming of age story wait until you graduate high school and watch it again.

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Here you go.

>>142544846
shit taste

>>142544846
Hey doublas, I got to see only yesterday in a theatre the other day. It was great never thought I'd really ever get to see that.

>>142534587
Worst post itt, literature elitists should be ashamed of themselves - especially those on a fucking anime board

>>142545094
let him be proud of winning gold at the special olympics

>>142545067
Hello /a/non. I saw it in theaters too, around a month back. It was sweet, only three people including myself, my mate, and an old man were in the theater.

>>142545072
K-On!, Eva and FLCL have no place on that list.

>>142545072
>k-on is good
When will this meme end?

It's the most putrid, unambitious pandering garbage ever and change the industry in the worst way possible.

>>142545277
Congratulations on your lack of taste.

>>142534587
Nah, if you're impressed by the message and themes in any form of fiction in general then that just means you're either underage or missed out on your education. Art is about the ways in which it delivers its themes, not about the themes themselves. You've got philosophy, science and life experience for gaining knowledge.

>>142545333
Congratulations on watching your 100th anime.

>>142545350
You can watch a million anime and still have shit taste.

>>142545277
faggot

>>142543930
Get some taste friendo.

>>142545246
There were maybe 20 in mine. There is some Ghibli retrospective going on at a chain of cinemas in the UK currently. Now seen Nausicaa, Laputa, Totoro, Grave of the Fireflies, Kiki and Only Yesterday. Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away next. I bet those will be packed with people.

>>142545277
FLCL I agree with, K-On I wouldn't call a masterpiece even though it was incredibly influential, I'd say that Eva should be on there though

>[shitposting to the max]

>>142545372
Look, I like Eva and FLCL, K-On! Is trash.
But they are not fucking masterpieces in any way, shape or form.

This thread is for masterpieces, everything I listed falls short of the requirements of a masterpiece.

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Actual list of certified masterpieces of Japanese animation.

>>142545440
You're an idiot, your opinion is worth nothing.

>>142545539
This is a bait chart.

>>142545500
Explain why instead of just saying that they aren't,

>>142545539
More than half of those are only there because of nostalgiafags and cel purists

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>>142544199
Indeed, it's one of the greatest anime ever made.

>>142545414
There's a theater about 40 minutes from me near D.C. doing the same. I have vacation time put in each week for the next two months so I can ensure I have enough time to drive up there after work. Not sure I'll go see them all though. I might just go see my favorites.

>>142532845
>Kenshin Tsuiokuhen
>masterpiece

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>>142544199

>Keit愛 OST

OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfdfinG_P8
ED1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDNGS9V4Us
ED2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4DyTjrruVo

OP Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NShEKYoPXw
ED 1 Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIX9aoN7g4o
ED 2 Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woiMYzVTl9c

>Keit愛 TVアニメ

PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
EP 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k

>>142532845
Logh as a masterpiece? My sides. MY SIDES.

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> 2199

> Not driving a WWII battleship to the stars

>>142545576
No it isn't I made it myself with some help.

>>142545598
That's not too bad, mines within walking distance so I can't really not. Looking forward to seeing Kaguya for the third time. I'm not too bothered about Ponyo though. I'll probably go, nothing better to do.

>>142545581
>posting a shitty picture with anime 'masterpieces'
>wants others to explain why they think his shitty favorites are bad
You should urgently need to kill yourself.

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>>142532979

It's unimpressive when it comes to pretty much everything else, too.

LoGH is mediocre at best, and I find it embarrassing that it receives so much praise here.

>>142545581
It's literally in the OP, anything that isn't a storytelling and technical masterpiece does not apply.
>>142545624
Hilarious, this place sure needed an invasive meme to draw in crossboarders and normalfags.
>>142545673
Lurk more newfag.

>>142545581
K-On relies on a recycled “entourage” of recurring gags that were initially mildly funny, but became banal and dull after several episodes. Also, despite K-ON! being a show about music, the music plays second fiddle to the other aspects of the anime. In many cases, the characters would forgo practice sessions in favour of vacations and indulgence in confectionery. To compensate for the lack of music, mini-tutorials should have been added at the end of each episode (as done in Moyashimon), for example tips on alternate picking, choosing a suitable guitar and so forth. Had this been added, viewers would be able to relate more closely with the characters in their endeavours to succeed as a high school music band. Instead, watching the characters perform on stage gave me a strange sense of detachment. Also, Yui’s progress as a guitarist was inconsistent, ranging from nil to inhumanly quick.

The characters are mostly one-dimensional too. Mio for example, proved to be the least interesting as she served as a mere conduit of moe by adopting various personalities (including reticence, cowardice and authoritativeness) in a cheap attempt to up the moe output. This rendered her character paper-thin, sorely disappointing me. The introduction of a fifth main character, Azusa, did little more than increase the already saturated moe content.

A masterpiece is flawless, and contrary to your delusions, K-On is anything but. Anyone who thinks this show is a masterpiece is a complete moron.

>>142545600
It sure is. Those OVAs were unbelievable.

>>142545072
>Jin-Roh
Nah.

>>142545277

>no problem with Ding Dong or Jin Roh

Seriously?

Develop some taste, child.

>>142545706
>LoGH is mediocre at best, and I find it embarrassing that it receives so much praise here.
It is appealing for some underaged self-proclaimed 'anime elitists' who just want some hipster credits.

I can agree with you, mediocre at best.

>>142545791
ping pong is the best thing in that image besides castle of cagliostro

>>142545072
>NGE
Immediately closed the picture here.

>>142545813
Ping Pong is the worst thing in that image by a long way.

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>>142545836
Terrible

>>142545685
>within walking distance
Lucky. My local theater isn't so bad. We get more than just the mainstream releases, recently stuff like Anomalisa, Lobster, etc. It also gets TCM's monthly showings of classic movies like On the Waterfront and The Maltese Falcon. No anime though, at least not since we got the dub of The Wind Rises.

>>142545791
Ping ping was arguable, I wouldn't consider it a masterpiece myself, but I can see why some would.
Jin roh did a lot of things right, it's arguably one of the best anime films, what are you on about?

>>142545853
I couldn't find Anomalisa anywhere, although I did kind of forget about it. Never really get any anime either besides Ghibli. I think they might have shown GITS when it recently got re-re-re-re-released. Did get to see Ran not long ago though.

>>142545859
I'm not that guy nor a film guru but when I watched Jin Roh it felt like a whole bunch of nothing. The animation was great and everything, but it felt like when the climax came, it didn't actually mean anything. Sure, I mean, he had to do what he did to return to the pack or whatever, but I just never understood why he was supposed to care for the girl in the first place.

>>142545972
The theater I frequent up near D.C. gets a decent amount of anime. It had Kizumonogatari, The Boy and the Beast, GitS, and the Project Itoh films (the first one, with the second coming), in addition to their Ghibli offerings.

No luck for Ran. I'm not sure if it has played at many theaters in the US yet. I want to pick up the BD though. And Anomalisa was shown kind of strangely here. It came as a double billing with a fairly meh Tina Fey movie, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

>>142545737
You're blaming the show for not being what you wanted it to be. You wanted a show that's primarily about music with incidental cute girls, but instead you got a show about cute girls with (mostly) incidental music. You can't blame the show for that.

Your argument about Mio doesn't really make much sense either. You say she's one dimensional and then go on to mention her numerous emotional states. She can't be both one dimensional and adopt various personalities.

>>142534297
>cracker doesn't get banned
>saying dark skin is ugly in anime gets you banned
>shitskin gets you warned
funny how that works

>>142546169
They all deserve a post deletion.
Just report it.

>>142546165
>You're blaming the show for not being what you wanted it to be
Ah yes, the cry of a completely blind idiot who refuses to acknowledge flaws in their favorite anime, and tried to claim it as a viewer problem. Easy discard.

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I enjoy a lot of anime, but the only anime that was perfectly executed in every aspect was cowboy bebop

Because /a/ went on and on about how it was "overrated" and >>>/v/, i expected a merely decent anime. it wasn't just good, i was blown the fuck away by how much of a masterpiece it was. from the opening scene to the last scene, it was above and beyond anything else

>>142546227
it shouldn't matter at all

>>142546239
Are you saying the show was what you wanted it to be? Because your statement against the show pretty clearly states that you wanted it to be more technical and focused on music when that was never the intent of the show.

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>>142546244

I feel like I'm the only one that just doesn't give much of a shit about Cowboy Bebop.

I think it's a good show, I enjoyed it, but aside from the production values and the solid setting, nothing really impressed me when I watched it. I don't even remember what most of the episodes were about.

It sure is summer in here.

>>142545737
>A masterpiece is flawless
Nothing is flawless. By that definition, there are no masterpieces.

>>142532845
Spirited Away is the only one that won an Oscar so it's the only anime masterpiece

/thread

>>142534330
>>142534533
>lmao
/a/ sure has changed the last seven years.

>>142545539
Still lacks Angel's Egg, especially when there are other Oshii works which are inferior to it.

>>142545539
I don't think shorts should be in there

>>142546309
Maybe just not your type of show? plenty of supposedly good shows of other kinds were boring to me and i didn't really like them. But i enjoyed every minute of cowboy bebop and i could recount almost every episodes from memory, down to the songs played in each scene

>>142546453
Why not?

>>142546379
Yeah it's pretty disgusting how the quality of the posts keep dropping each year.

>>142546420
Angel's Egg is the worst Oshii FYI.

>>142545581
Burden's on you idiot. Do explain how K-On is a masterpiece without sounding like the idiotic Kyoani shiteater you are.

>>142546506
For example, Coffee Break is a great short and it's very good on a technical and aesthetic level, but in the end it's just a bunch of objects floating around a guy drinking coffee. I don't think it's substantive enough to be mentioned alongside films and shows.

>>142546629
Nope, it's the hight of his skills as a director. Because of the negative reactions to it he never trusted his audience again and always went out of his way to insert scenes of blatant exposition in each of his works. Each work after Angel's Egg was just less Oshii.

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>>142544199
FINDS

>>142546651
I can't really do so within the space of a 4chan post without making incredibly broad statements that you probably won't understand or find compelling. If you want to know why people like the show you should probably look up some long form analysis on it. If you want a reply from me specifically you should ask me a specific question.

>>142544199


Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/

>>142544199
I'm replying to this so that the mod can see it and delete it.

>>142546964
take this too
>>142546929

Any list without a Yuasa anime is trash

>>142541655
This is a pretty good list. I'm not sure Belladonna is really a masterpiece, mostly just experimental, and I honestly think it's an oversight to leave off Madoka, but outside of that this is the best post in the thread.

>>142544199
>>142546929
>>142546799
I want this shitty fucking meme to die

>>142547122
Not just any Yuasa anime either, Ping Pong is the one that deserves to be there

>>142547147
Personally Mind Game and Kaiba are better.

Really the only thing he's done that is objectively not good is kemonozume

>>142532845
The Jew scroll motif is a really nice touch. You're no amateur shitpsoter.

>>142547184
>Really the only thing he's done that is objectively not good is kemonozume
And Kaiba.

>>142545631
Loli Anne is one of the best loli characters in anime.

>>142547214
what's your issue with kaiba

>>142547285
>One of the most tryhard makes no sense last episode I've ever experienced in any form of media
>Inconsistent 1st and 2nd half
>bad directing in the second half
>lackluster overall message
>literally bigger trainwreck than Code Geass

>>142547147
lolwut Tatami Galaxy is clearly his best.

>>142547345
This was the most tryhard posts in this thread.

>>142547364
We thank you for your perfect argument.

>>142547345
The ending is a bit disappointing but
>calling something tryhard as an insult
are you 14 or something?

>>142547364
Nah the guy attempting to shit on K-on was trying way harder.

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>>142547358
>>142547147
>>142547122
Kaiba > Tatami > Mind Game > Happy Machine > Ping Pong > Kick-heart > Kemonozume > Slow and steady wins the race, babe > Food Chain

>>142547379
Arguments are made against arguments, not baseless statements. I could as well write:
>One of the best endings I've ever experienced in any form of media
>Consistent 1st and 2nd half
>Amazing directing in the second half
>Spectacularly delivered message
>literally the best anime of all time
Wow, look at my amazing argumentation skills!

>>142547396
I would switch Tatami and Mind Game but great list

>>142545631
What's the one at the bottom right?

>>142547544
Boku no pico

KnK
Fate/Zero
Fate Stay Night
Madoka

>no one has mentioned Princess Tutu
Fucking plebs.

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>>142546244
Absolutely patrician taste. The whole show had this dreamlike feeling, as though it was telling the epilogue of a story that should already be over about a man who should be dead.

"Never seen a bluer sky..."

Paranoia agent and all of Satoshi Kon's movies.

>>142547435
Not really. All I see is a mad fanboi who is mad, because someone doesn't like his favorite shit and dared to express what the problems were with it.

>>142547804
Not that anon, but you're not really presenting anything to contend with. It's just insults and unfalsifiable opinions.

>>142538721
Dennou Coil. It's about augmented reality.

>>142541655
Closest to correct ITT. Also when considering masterpieces are NGE and EoE both considered or are they just conglomerated as "eva"?

>>142545548
What a compelling argument.

>>142546309
dido

Utena
Princess Tutu
Madoka
Dennou Coil
So ra no wo to
Evangelion
Aku no hana
All of Satoshi Kon
A lot of Ghibli movie

>>142548036
>Madoka
>So ra no wo to
>Evangelion
>Aku no hana
Top-tier bait

>>142548113
What's bait tier about it? Even if you don't think they're masterpieces many agree that they're very good shows. Well not Aku no Hana but I didn't expect anyone to agree with that one.

>>142548161
>Even if you don't think they're masterpieces
In that guy's defense, that is exactly what the thread is supposed to be about, masterpieces.

>>142548240
What people consider to be a masterpiece is subjective, as evidence by all the arguing in this thread.

Directing wise:
>Utena
>Lain
>Steins;Gate
>Bebop
>Texhnolyze
>Tatami
>Shouwa Genroku
>Gungrave

Art/animation wise:
>Mononoke
>Mushishi
>Casshern Sins
>Monogatari series
>Samurai Champloo
>Dennou Coil

>>142548337
Did Steins Gate have good directing? I'm fond of the show, it's well written , but the direction felt kind of average.

>>142548337
Thanks for your valuable input, Madhouse.

>>142548036
Madoka has nothing to do in that list.

>>142548365
Not that anon, but you a joke, right? Hamasaki did a fantastic job with that show.

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As far as I'm concerned Rose of Versailles is the best anime or animation in general. Western shit can't compare.

>>142548383
I don't get why people say this. It's pretty clearly a masterpiece. Your contrarianism only goes that far, though?

>>142548689
>It's pretty clearly a masterpiece.
If you've watched 20 anime, then sure.

>>142548720
I really don't understand. It's honestly amazing. It gets better every time I rewatch it. It's tightly paced, has great atmosphere, does interesting work in its animation, and ties it all together with powerful ideas. Why are you such a fag?

>>142548458
I like SG, but nothing about the direction stands out to me. What am I missing?

>>142548749
It has boring characters. I agree with most of your other points but that alone makes simply good instead of being great.

>>142548749
I wouldn't say it's bad, just MEHH in everything.

>>142548835
It purposefully kept its cast small just so that we would get a deeper look in to everyone who was a part of the cast. What's boring about any of them? Madoka, maybe, but that's largely the point of her character. She's literally made of potential, invested in to by other people, and it's up to her to decide what to do with it.

>>142548689
>>142548749
Look mate, I like madoka and happen to be contrarian that enjoyed rebellion, but even then it's far from masterpiece.

>tightly paced,
Yes, but at the same time, could do more with fleshing out the characters by a couple more episodes
>has great atmosphere,
Yes, but by no mean the best at it.
>does interesting work in its animation,
Yes, but by no mean the best at it.
>and ties it all together with powerful ideas.
Yes, but by no mean the best at it.

I'd consider Kaiji to be a masterpiece. People would consider its pacing to be a flaw but I think it aids greatly in conveying just how the situations feel to the characters. Its music, voice acting, and aesthetics are elder god-tier.

>>142548888
>get a deeper look in to everyone
Not really. People like Kyoko and Mami didn't really get much of a deeper look. Sorry, but as >>142548835 said, those aren't enough to qualify as masterpiece.

>>142548911
It is literally a critically acclaimed show, showered in accolades. Everyone in the industry recognizes it for what it is. I miss when /a/ had taste.

>>142548888
Homura and Mami are also completely one note. Kyoko and Sayaka are really the only interesting members of the cast and even then their development is pretty obvious and boring.

>>142548946
>>142548991
You people can't even decide which characters are boring and which aren't. I guess it's whatever. Success breeds envy.

>>142548952
>It is literally a critically acclaimed show
In your wet dreams, maybe.

>>142549063
>The show won the Television Award at the 16th Animation Kobe Awards,[94] as well as 12 Newtype Anime Awards[95] and the Grand Prize for animation in the 2011 Japan Media Arts awards.[96] It also won three Tokyo Anime Awards in the Television Category, Best Director and Best Screenplay,[97] and the Selection Committee Special Prize award at the 2012 Licensing of the Year awards.[98] Madoka Magica was awarded a Seiun Award for "Best Media" at the 2012 Japan Science Fiction Convention.[99] In 2015, the show was also awarded the inaugural Sugoi Japan Grand Prix, Japan's nationwide vote for manga, anime, and novels considered as cultural assets that have the potential to be beloved all over the world, among all the works published since 2005.

>>142548952
How about you use your own words to explain why it did beyond what others did so as to attain the masterpiece status? All you've done so far haven't proven why it is masterpiece, great show sure, but not exceptional one of a kind because that's what a masterpiece is.

Note, I'm not saying that the critics are wrong (I've seen some of the praise and I agree with them), rather I'm saying that you're just appealing to authority, i.e it's masterpiece because critics said so, rather than what are the actual reasoning.

> I miss when /a/ had taste.
There you are doing it again.

>>142549033
u w8 m8? Re-read the thing.
>People like Kyoko and Mami didn't really get much of a deeper look
> Kyoko and Sayaka are really the only interesting members of the cast and even then their development is pretty obvious and boring.
Neither of those contradict each other. Brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

>Success breeds envy.
The moment you play that card is the moment when you have stopped trying to apply critical thinking.

>>142549082
You're right, I have stopped trying. Madoka's a masterpiece, and I'm not going to waste my time on this thread.

>>142549033
Fuck off, we weren't even making the same point. A character can be interesting but still underdeveloped. Moreover, one of us could be wrong and the other could be right. Stop with your shitty fallacious arguments. Make an actual point or fuck off.

>>142549106
You are literally on the same level as some shounentards faggot.

>>142549106
Bye then, but don't forget to bring your shit taste away too.

>>142548952
Then why do you keep having difficulty explaining what Madoka did that was special? As pointed by others, masterpiece has to be beyond just good or great.
Or can you only depend on other people to tell you why it's good?

>>142549033
>>142549106
That's just sad. You can't even form proper arguments and when cornered just end up throwing a tantrum.

>>142532845
What's the anime with the train?

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>>142532979
LOGH is Crest of the Stars for millennial babies.

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>>142546929
i repost x2 everytime u post that

>>142549584
Night on the Galactic Railroad

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>no milky holmes
Wow what a bunch of plebian retards in this thread
Milky Holmes S1 and S2 is literally the pinnacle of anime

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The only masterpieces in anime are the following

Hyouge Mono
GitS SAC

Kodomo no Jikan is legitimately a masterpiece, definitely her best work. Great art, great story. The anime adaptation is so shallow and fanservicey though and some of the subject matter is obviously taboo so it's hard to even have a fair discussion about it usually. That taboo stuff is just part of it though and the whole package is really a masterpiece.

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>>142549873
>GitS SAC

>>142541655
>Evangelion
>FLCL
lol
other than that decent list

>>142549873
Hyouge Mono is utter mediocrity floating on the merits of the original work.

>>142534874
>Except Star Trek did it first and better.
Are you fucking kidding me? Of all the political space opera's you picked the most corny one? Could of said Next Generation or Babylon 5 at least. Though Both NG and OG suck ass in the later seasons. Where as both Babylon 5 and LoGH don't falter at the later episodes.

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Cossette

Hyouka

>>142535443
Your really wrong in this aspect. Even if it is the first. You cannot say it dates well at all. It isn't considered as a politically heavy series. It's closer to a normal pulpy space opera. It is not TNG levels of politics either.

>>142550217
Boku no Pico

>>142532845
Well, if this wasn't a thinly veiled /wsr/ thread I'd tell you boku no pico

>>142550286
>stop discussing anime guys!

>>142538216
>Doesn't matter how many civilizations they encounter when they only ever meet like 10 of them in a bar or some shit. I've never seen any star trek, but I doubt there was ever a scene in any of them where hundreds of millions of people die.
Okay. Dude. Calm your tits. I'm not that anon, but your looking at Star Trek completely wrong. There is stuff like thousands/millions dying, but it only really happens in TNG. In OG it is all about exploring new worlds and understanding them. In TNG they go way up into politics and plausible science. I mean there is a reason why that series introduced Holodecks and Tablets. And introduced stuff like the concept with alien species. Also the meaning of what is a organism. And the power of humans at that stage is questioned as well.

Though Babylon 5 and LoGH didn't suck the second half in comparison to most Star Trek series.

>>142532845
look at this faggot, wanting to know which animes are masterpieces so he can watch them and try to be cool.

Return your bitch ass to reddit you worthless piece of newfag shit.

>>142550331
What discussion? It's mainly just people name dropping shows while one Madokafag is being angry that people don't think it's 10/10.

>>142550334
>concept with alien species
Fuck captcha fucked me over. I meant concept of interfering with Aliens and giving them advanced technologies.

>>142550331
>guys
>/a/ is a group
>we're not all little girls

Newfag sighted

>>142550331
Well, if you really want that see:
>>142550334

>>142550353
That's completely irrelevant, fact is, not everything is a fucking rec thread.
Seriously what's up with people trying this fucking hard to fit in?

>>142550406
>irrelevant
No it isn't. The post would have held more weight if people were actually discussing about why certain shows are or aren't good. But they aren't; just one anon going X, Y and Z are masterpieces then anon 2 going no A, B and C because you have shit taste.

Yes, not everything is a rec thread, but this particular thread really isn't helping your case because random namedropping is no different from the typical rec threads on sites like MAL.

That one Madokafag aside, even the guy who claims that S;G has good directing doesn't even try to explain either. There's no new insights to be gained, there's no actual discussion going on. Even if it's not a rec thread, it sure as hell still isn't a discussion about anime masterpieces.

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>>142550384
What are you talking about? That anon was being ignorant about something and I corrected him. LoGH deserves to be on the pedestal it is on. Also why even make this list when you guys have no fucking idea what is influential in the anime/manga industry. You guys are stuck to your own thinking process of your favorite series being unequivocal masterpieces when that is a subjective opinion. From what you say is true. Then anons saying Ashita no Joe, Evangelion, Rose of Versailles, Haruhi, Dragon Ball, and Gundam/Macross are not the most influential works in the medium your on crack.

LoGH did not influence anyone in Japan to make shit like it, because that is an intimidating task to take after the 20 years it has been out. Also Crest of the Stars is simply okay.

>>142550486
>Even if it's not a rec thread, it sure as hell still isn't a discussion about anime masterpieces.
I wouldn't really say this thread is a rec thread. It is just a redundant one, because all these threads go into the same drivel as the last threads having similar topics to this one. Most likely scenario is that OP was bored and wanted to gloat/troll a reason why these should be masterpieces and debate against other people's opinions.

>>142547901
Both are masterpieces, I counted them together.

>>142550071
Nice entry-level contrarian opinion you have there.

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You plebs on /a/ wouldn't know good anime even if it smacks you right in the face

Obviously the best anime is Re:Zero as it portrays Subaru's suffering so realistically, and all that torture.

Also Erased is a close second.

:^)

>>142538358
>KNK
>Masterpiece

>>142551050
You're trying to fit in too hard. I don't understand what value posts like this have.

>>142546309
i feel similarly about eva so i know that feel

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it will always be my number 1

>>142550699
The yed