Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1563

started from the bottom now we here

>>142373866
How can I look up Jap song lyrics without finding Chink/Romaji lyrics?

>>142369940
>droning your way through 10k anki cards is going to make you a moonmaster
If you're mined all those 10k yourself from reading then you're on your way to becoming a moonmaster for real.

>>142370077
>You can recommend 1001 beginners reading material(Including simple VNs) and faggots will still go for the Anki meme of "gotta catch em all."
Where the fuck are you "gonna catch em all" if not from reading?
I don't think there anyone on DJT retarded enough to use anki exclusively like your imaginary strawman.

>>142374016
http://kasi-time.com/

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>>142373647
i'm proud of you 豚

call me generalfag but I'm happy every time this is the OP image, it's what I grew up with damnit

but variety is also nice

男の子の親は警察に「公園で遊んでいたとき、悪いことをしたので、山の中で子どもを車から降ろしました。すぐに子どもを迎えに戻りましたが、子どもはいなくなっていました」と話していました。
Am I messing up or did the parents drop the kid off on some mountain because he did something bad at the park?

>>142374016
google.co.jp

song name 歌詞

What's the difference between 髪の毛 and 髪? I know that 毛 can mean any kind of hair, but apparently both 髪の毛 and 髪 mean head hair. Is it that both words have the same meaning but are used in different situations/contexts?

>>142374254
First one mostly means thread of hair, while the second one is hair in general.

>>142374187
The parents killed the kid and hid the body somewhere and then told the police the kid got lost after leaving him in the mountains

>>142374187
The way I understand it they pretended to abandon it just to give it a scare, but when they wanted to pick it up again it disappeared.

>>142374187
車から降ろしました means they let him off a car, not dropped off the fucking mountain.

>>142374388
Dropping off on a mountain is not the same as dropping off a mountain, ESL kun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU440caSIj4


おはよーみんなさん～

なんで日本語を勉強してるの？

まさか... もしかして...?!

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why are the only things connecting あ to か and が is the cross at the top

memorizing the h- and g- hiragana rn familia

I've got a question about a h-manga line, what does とこ in this sentence means?

いきなり射精（furigana だ）すとこだった…

I can't think of it making sense as ところ, so might it be dasuto, ko(?) datta...?

From this page: (sadpanda) http://exhentai.org/s/d7b0bbcc08/811592-145

>>142374016
Type a line of the song you can understand into google

>>142374432
I don't think me being blind and not noticing "on" has anything to do with being ESL.

>>142374536
Unless you're literally not ESL, it does.

>>142374511
出すところ
the time/point of ejaculation

>>142374511
するところだった is a phrase if you will that means "was about to"

私が悪い日本語で話します、どうしお
無理です。。。

>>142374511
出す as a postfix on a verb means about to do/started to do

So I know all of my kana. I learned it over the span of three weeks during bus rides.

However I'm having a bit of trouble with remebering kanji slash vocabulary. When I see a specific kanji or set of kanji, I am able to recognize the meaning, but I myself am unable to force or rather eke out the word or kanji that I want to say... It is as if Ive never studied it at all.
I've been using JED and Oben-kyo, as well as writing them down in a handbook as per the ops cornucopia of resource materials.. What fur mther resources can I use to improve my ability to force the memorization of these squiggly lines in my head? Thank you.

>>142374673
That's what I figured from the context/lines, but I was trying to understand what the とこ was.

From the replies I think ところ doesn't mean strictly a place, but a point (in the example, of time) as well?

Many thanks for the replies, having this explained feels more confident than "I think I figured this, but I'm not really sure".

>>142374825
Either learn radicals or do RTK, so at least you can have names for the components that kanji are made of.

>>142374365
I see. Thanks.

>>142374825
>JED and Oben-kyo
wat

just do core anki like a normal person. read the guide

>>142374038
If you add every word you come across (Defining word to be "has a dictionary entry in Jisho) then 10k is not that much

If you add words intelligently then sure

>>142374871
Yes, it often means the time when an action is performed.

>>142374871
>From the replies I think ところ doesn't mean strictly a place, but a point (in the example, of time) as well?
I'd say it does mean place, but not only in the physical sense. But yea.

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>>142374494
i'm confused can you rephrase this

>>142374825
>When I see a specific kanji or set of kanji, I am able to recognize the meaning, but I myself am unable to force or rather eke out the word or kanji that I want to say
When you are studying kanji, are you doing Kanji -> Meaning (look at a kanji and try to produce from memory its meaning) or Meaning -> Kanji (see the meaning of a kanji and try to produce, i.e. write, that kanji from memory)?

Kanji -> Meaning is the easier approach but Meaning -> Kanji is the more effective one which will let you write characters at will.

>What fur mther resources can I use to improve my ability to force the memorization of these squiggly lines in my head?
I would say at the very least that everyone should study radicals. Some info about that got added to the guide recently. TL;DR - do this deck and suspend all the "recognition" cards: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1044119361

After that you could try a different Anki deck with kanji in it instead of radicals. The guy who made that radical deck says he has also made a kanji deck in the description on that page. Anki should be a lot more effective for the task in any case than just randomly writing out random characters at random intervals.

>>142375456
He's probably korean and expects Hiragana with similar sounds to look similar

>>142374494
Japan should use canadian syllabics (note: NOT an abugida!)

>>142376058
>expecting logic in Japanese writing

えっとですね今日のうんこは細かったうん

内臓大丈夫かな

>>142376272
ウンコ日記ご苦労様。

Is it true that 円 for the currency is always supposed to be pronounced "en" in Japanese? I just had a native reader read it out as "yen" in the Human Japanese deck, so I'm a bit confused.

>>142376363
健やかな人生はうんこで始まりますからな

>>142376443
"ye" isn't a 和 phoneme anymore but that doesn't mean the sound doesn't exist. Sometimes words can be pronounced with either a "e" or "ye" sound where an え goes. The beginning of a word is the most obvious example. If a word begins with え, and it's an old enough word, then someone somewhere probably pronounces it as starting with ye.

>>142376443
if theres a number before it yes other times you can do whatever dude

you can even do whatever when theres a number before it japanese is easy like that

Speaking of which, is it correct that ゑびす is pronounced exactly as えびす, or is there a small difference?

>>142376605
It's actually elvis-u.

>>142376605
actualy what you wana do is put your tongue against the roof of your mouth and then exhale strongly to produce a ひぇ sound and say it っひぇびす

>>142376721
got me

>>142376443
Was it in せんえん or まんえん so it was preceded by a ん？ If so, it is likely the ん sound confusing you

>>142376443
That seems to happen when an え is preceded by a ん (んえ rather than ね). There are a few cards where it happens in the Core deck (禁煙 is one of them from memory).

I'm guessing the native you heard read out 三円 (さんえん), thus the "y" sound got added between the two words.

>>142377170
>>142377325
Yeah, that's right.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s08Nxbwcunht

>>142377688
ん when followed by a vowel becomes a nasally version of the preceding vowel rather than an "n" sound, so the switch becomes kinda like a y

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When should I start reading?

What site do you use for translating while reading?
Do you write everything down that you didn't already know or something?

I'm using the 2k6k vocab deck from the startup guide, I'm at 1500 words and finshed a book about grammar, but I think I need to use the language to actually understand and get the feeling for it.

>>142378586
Read the guide.

>>142378586
You can start reading once you're through basic grammar. If you finished a book, you can start anytime.
If you feel too overwhelmed, consider parallel reading. It's often used in language study.
Basically you get a VN that's already translated, and play the translated version in parallel to the Japanese one, in two game windows. You would advance one line in the Japanese version, try to understand it, then look at the translated line and compare.

イーリャンサンスー

>>142378586
>What site do you use for translating while reading?
Never really used anything

>>142378683
Manga is fine as well I guess?
What translator do you recommend? I personally liked jisho especially for Kanji, but maybe there is something better?

Also I'm not sure if I should use English or German for parallel reading, I've noticed Japanese words are often used the same way German words are contrary to the English version of a word.
Like the english word theoretically has the same meaning, but is used in a different way to express different things.

>>142378586
Install rikai, get some LN in html format, start reading right the fuck now.

Help, I only have 6 episodes of anime left
Spoonfeed me good anime

>>142379322
Detective Conan.

>>142379322
One Piece
Detective Conan
Bleach
Gintama
Naruto

>>142379322
>good anime

Oxymoron.

>>142379322
Madoka
Madoka
Madoka
Madoka
Madoka
Madoka

>>142379372
you're the moron

>>142379364
>>142379369
Already watched them and don't really want to rewatch them

>>142379418
But madoka was shit

>>142379372
I looked up "oxymoron アニメ" but didn't find anything

>>142379322
Shitcaptor Makura.

>>142379322
lurk more newfag

>>142379459
>But madoka was shit
Nigga I'll kill you

>>142379512
It's because you mixed English and Japanese. Try again.

>>142379565
It's not shit but it is overrated.

>>142379565
He's right though...

>>142379594
Then it's great. Anime quality is binary

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>>142379594
>>142379619
Anons please I can't accept blasphemy

>>142379552
Does me lurking more cause you to randomly suggest good anime to watch?

I just started learning vocab, but I think "ー" confuses me the most

>>142379793
>babys first books
how fitting

>>142379322
6 episodes of what

>>142380005
Moonlight Mile

>>142379902
Mushishi was good. The dialogue is generally pretty slow and simple as well, which is nice if your listening comprehension isn't that good

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>>142379793
but religion is also overrated
don't fedora meme me, it fits the definition of overrated perfectly

>>142380119
>the truth about the creation, beginning and ending of the world, the meaning of life and humanity
>overrated

>>142380154
YES

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is this the thread for learning japanese or is it just shitpost central どちらか

>>142380284
両方

>>142380284
上記のどれでもない

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おはようおにいちゃん

>>142374187
８日のまずくわずだったけど

いきてかえれたみたいだよ

>>142380197
*tips*

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いいですか、ここは地球ではありません。異世界です。リアルです。死んだら死にます。戻る方法は私しか知りません。

>>142379319
>rikaisama with html format LN
Why did I never think of this?

>>142380154
>the truth
>500 different versions
>everyone says theirs is right with irrefutable "proof" that can be debunked with only a couple words
>billions of retards still flock to it like the best thing ever
it's literally overrated entry level anime on a global scale

>>142381820
I dunno, man, for me it felt like the best way to read and mine shit from the start, feels better than reading VNs with text hooker since I don't even have to take my eyes of a sentence if I need to look up a word.

>>142374494
>why are the only things connecting あ to か and が is the cross at the top
For me, あ is easy because you see it in porn all the time. か and 力 are easy because they're the "ka" in "katana" (刀). As for が, well, I left all the " sounds for the end. You get a feel for how the " changes the base pronunciations soon enough.

>>142381709

そんなにしたくないけど、私の世界に戻るにはしなければならないなら、私の正義の肉銛をあんたのくさいマンコの奥に挿し込む。覚悟しとけ！

>>142381872
Those 500 different versions are all the same with slight variations. Of course over thousands of years, a story that was mostly passed through the word of mouth will change. But one thing is without mistake, we are all children of God.

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>>142381872
マハーバーラタ would make for a pretty sick anime.

>>142381709
>>142381954
二人ともシャットザファックアップ

>>142381970
>>142381872
Exactly, we are children of our one and only god Madoka.

>>142381820
Don't forget you can get VN text output on a blank html too

>>142382055

ビッグディックであんたののどを塞がるよ。

>>142382072
how

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ねえおにいちゃん

めんぼうきらしちゃった

かってきて

>>142382171
気持ちいぜえ

もっと激しくのどマンコを

>>142382313
綿棒？
麺棒？
面皰？
面貌？
意味不明です

>>142382171
塞げるでしょう？他動必要、この場合に

>>142382440
>面貌
に違いない
ババアになったってことでしょう

>>142382313
買ったら、耳かきしてくれるか？

>>142382172
http://pastebin.com/DgZ84qwk

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>>142382440
みみのおそうじにつかう

めんぼうだよ

かってかってかってー

>>142382622
小指でやれ

Why aren't you guys studying kanji like the pros do?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/4m8i9q/an_illustrated_guide_to_a_kanji_study_method_i/

Haven't you realized anki is a meme yet?

asdasd

>>142382686
What a mess.

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>>142382519
いいよ

ひざまくらはぷらすせんえん

ふーふーはぷらすごひゃくえんだよ

>>142382686
I really love this system, for some reason it really inspires me and makes me want to study Kanji even harder! I already use WaniKani for most of my Kanji learning, however, I have admittedly been slacking when it comes to physically writing the characters :( Not anymore though, not after seeing this!

>>142382855
It definitely lit a fire under me!

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>>142382686
>Naturally, writing practice can be supplemented! Even after starting reading (working my way up from short-short stories for kids), I have been using other resources as well.
Who would have thought.

Any tips for reading numbers (in hiragana/katakana for now)? It's hard to interpret what the numbers are while also getting used to reading the characters and what they are.

This is fucking me up senpaitachi

>>142383012
google japanese numbers
look at a chart for 10 seconds
look away and try to remember the numbers
repeat

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Why does /a/ never give me Kenji?

>>142383142
what do you give me biotch

>>142383102
No I meant like, reading 8253 in Hiragana without knowing it's 8253.

Keeping track of what i'm reading and trying to picture the number in my head as I go along seems to be pretty difficult so far. Or am I doing it wrong?

>>142383257
Just keep at it
There are no tricks
Just an endless grind of repeated exposure

先日アメリカ人と話していた時、沢山の日本人と今まで話してきて（仕事して）思ったことだけど、日本人はあまり人の目を見て話さないと言っていました。私は極力人の目を見て話すようにしているつもりですが、結構皆さん目を合わさないのでしょうか？

沢山の日本人と今まで話してきて（仕事して）思ったことだけど
日本人はあまり人の目を見て話さないと言っていました
Who is doing the thinking and who said Japanese dont look in eye when talking?

I assume the first is the speaker, the second is the American.

Whats a good way to identify who is performing what action in Japanese?

>>142383142
recently found 教えて君

>>142383142
What, you want yojis? Here's one specially for you:
怨憎会苦

>>142383299
ありがとう

>>142383257
>reading 8253 in Hiragana without knowing it's 8253
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
Like reading はっせんにひゃくごじゅうさん and getting the number?
Nobody writes shit like that because it's a pain to both read and write.

>>142383326
I read it as all of
>沢山の日本人と今まで話してきて（仕事して）思ったことだけど、日本人はあまり人の目を見て話さない
belonging to と言っていました. I.e, being said. So both being the American.

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>tfw have to actually read out loud to get the sound to stick with my mining deck
this is tiring. i never have to talk

>>142383620
Actually nevermind this. I don't know

>>142383620
>>142383326
wow japanese people are beta as fuck

1) How long have you been studying Japanese?
2) At what stage of learning Japanese are you on currently/what are you studying at the moment?
3) How many languages do you speak? Which ones?
4) What are the current goals you're aiming for?

1) Three weeks
2) Constructing simple sentences and learning formalities
3) Two languages: English, Spanish
4) Aiming to read novels and listen/be able to understand J-Rock

>>142383364
やるんかいお前？

why are Spanish-speakers always total beginners
it's like they don't have the intelligence to learn a 3rd language
assuming you count their shitty half-knowledge of english as knowing it

>>142384276
the polluted water kills their braincells
flouride master race
drink the water
it's good for you

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thought this was moot for a sec

成れの果て is a cool word, albeit fairly overused.

>>142383873
1) 7 months
2) I have no idea. I think I can carry a simple conversation relatively easily, but my vocabulary still isn't good enough to read even the simplest of VNs without checking a dictionary all the time.
3) Three. Portuguese, English, and Swedish
4) Passing JLPT N1

>>142383873
1) In order, one year of watching anime and learning hiragana passively, maybe some reading up on basic Japanese grammar during that time; when I decided to study Japanese, 2 weeks of reading the entire Tae Kim, and then 73 days of Core 6k up to today. So basically real study began a bit over 2 months ago.
2) 1/4th through Core 6k, and am reading よつばと！ which I can understand pretty well with barely looking up words.
3) Spanish (native), English.
4) Being able to play Moon Remix RPG Adventure. If that's too hard, being able to play some decent JRPG at a good speed and not much vocabulary searching.

>>142383873
1) 1 1/2 y
2) Can master daily stuff and talk with friends who don't speak English.
3) English, German
4) Finish all jōyō kanji this month, start reading novels next month, be fluent in 1y

>>142383873
>1) How long have you been studying Japanese?
2 weeks
>2) At what stage of learning Japanese are you on currently/what are you studying at the moment?
Going through genki I (textbook+workbook). Currently at 6th chapter.
>3) How many languages do you speak? Which ones?
Two. Polish and English.
>4) What are the current goals you're aiming for?
Being able to read my chinese porn games/doujinshi.

>>142384276
>be Spanish speaker
>be American son of illegal immigrant parents
>discriminated against because brown
>top grades in all classes even through Uni
>speak English at a higher level than monolingual anglos, win essay contests throughout Uni
>Nip pronounciations are easy because some are similar to speaking in Spanish
>Bilingualism since childhood gave me enhanced language acquisition, make significant progress in short amounts of time even with vastly different languages like German and Japanese
>people like you are assmad i'm smarter than them despite being a dirty spic

But what do I know, I only have a shitty half-knowledge of the English language.

>>142384444
I can see it.

>>142384276
I can assure you I know far more Japanese than you do.

>>142384715
>>speak English at a higher level than monolingual anglos, win essay contests throughout Uni
>i'm smarter

>>142384715
You were born in America though, that's an advantage.
Being Argentinian, I can confirm people's language knowledge is pretty shit, and their English pronunciation is shit too.

Then again, it's not like Americans are any good at languages, probably even worse since they already know the most useful and widespread language in the world (please no chinese meme).

desu probably europeans are the best at languages, like Sweden and shit. They actually learn English at school. Not taught, they LEARN it.

>>142384866
>desu
what the fuck is this

>Huge amount of nigger jokes,
What did Op mean by this? It's in the guide under きっと、澄みわたる朝色よりも. Im a pollack and may actually read through it if it does contain actual jokes

>>142384906
t b h
s m h
f a m

>>142384906
Meme

>>142384959
I gathered that much
the question is
why

senpai

>>142385010
new moot ie gook likes to have fun

>>142385010
So you stop spamming reddit tier memes, fampai.

>>142384906
>>142385010
You never need to use it. It's absolutely meaningless and only used by facebookposters

>>142383873
All bloggers need to fuck off.

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>>142385150
you're so cool, thanks for your post senpai

who needs discussion or motivation in a language learning thread anyways?

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You faggots told me that Azumanga Daio had furigana.

>>142383873
1) Longer than you
2) At a higher stage than you
3) More than you
4) The Moon

>>142385265
>blogging is OK

Nope, fuck off.

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>>142385310
>not knowing baby's first kanji already

>>142385517
That's not the point, I was expecting the comic to have furigana in it throughout. I know every kanji on that page, but still.

>>142385566
If you can read it why are you bitching? Saying "baww I thought there was furigana" with a page full of basic kanji is grounds for being mocked.

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おにいちゃんあのね

えっとね

いっしょにねよ

>びょういん is hospital
>びよういん is beauty parlor
I can not learn Japanese.

>>142385789
今寝たら夜は寝られなくなる

>>142385804
They don't even sound remotely the same. Even the number of syllables don't match.

>>142383873
1) 2 years and a half.
2) I can read plot-driven LNs and VNs with relative ease.
3) Two languages: Spanish, English.
4) Passing N2 next month.

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>>142383873
1. Started ~11 years ago, but probably only 2 years of studying total
2. Reading VNs/LNs and mining. Can't speak, listen, or write
3. Just English. I'm also learning German but I'm still a beginner
4. Find something I really enjoy reading.

>>142385433
>>142385150
Dumb frogposter.

>>142385150
It's a pretty fucking sad state when someone posts something anecdotal that gives evidence to the fact that they are an individual human and not a brain dead autist only capable of parroting what they've read from others, and the first response is that someone thinks it is blogging.

This reflects poorly on your behalf, in case you haven't caught on yet.

>>142385862
Hey, we've been studying the same time.
It was a real blast to pick up Hanachirasu and have a good time of reading it when it used to be my final boss.
My new final bosses are speaking my mind without hesitation (holy fuck even after 2.5 years anything deviating from common sentence structure is a pain in the ass) and listening to Japanese TV shows involving business and banking and stuff without weeping.

I'm listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL-Qu8la-jE right now, and it's a great time. Great lets player playing kamige, with a high amount of on screen text to read to pass the time (both his manual annotations AND the game's text).

>>142386044
Why would you want to learn German? Not dropping the bomb on Berlin was humanity's greatest mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY

>>142386395
Maybe if the information was interesting or beneficial in some way but it clearly isn't. Seriously, a place like reddit would probably be better for you people. You get your own name and reputation and everything.

>>142386511
I think it is beneficial. Seeing as others progress is oddly motivating.

>>142386442
My dad wanted to learn it, so I said I would too. I think I'm either 1/4 or 1/8 German and my last name is German.

I've been getting pissed off lately though, because it is impossible to pirate anything from Germany. They dub tons of anime, but none of it is available anywhere. I've tried to find some other movies and have never had any luck with those either.

>>142386442
Not him, but I've found my basic understanding of German to be fairly useful every now and again, as Japanese people like to throw it in sometimes. Like in Ever17 for example.

>>142386511
I'm competitive, so I enjoy seeing people's progress and comparing it to mine to challenge myself. I give no shits about reputation or having a name, or who i'm talking to.
How's about you grow up without your little website wars, you man-child?

>>142381970
>we are all children of God.
whom he abandoned and allowed to rape and kill each other because muh free will? if he was actually powerful and good, he could have made us so that we had no inclination to evil even with free will

if god is all powerful he cannot be all good
if god is all good then he cannot be all powerful
if god is all powerful and all good, from where comes evil?
if god is not all powerful and all good, how can he be called god?

>>142386732
I learned tief, blau, and himmel from Ever17. I also learned other German words from anime like energie, arbeit, and waffe.

>>142386853
>I want God to think for me because I can't control my animalistic urges
There is no virtue if you are denied the choice to be evil.

>>142386749
I'm not the one who needs others to get off my ass, man-child.

>>142386905
So you take the god is not all powerful route? there's a difference between giving someone the choice to be evil, and giving them instincts which will drive them to be evil.

>>142376194

I'll admit they look kinda neat, gut what would be the point? Also, the kana have often obvious roots in similarily pronounced kanji, and that data would be lost.

>>142386976
It's called temptation. You're supposed to resist it in order to prove that you're not an animal.

>>142385804
Maybe you should see a hair stylist about that brain damage of yours.

>>142382440

Zit (面皰) is めんぽう not めんぼう.

>>142387039
so god is not all good? what purpose has he for creating something with flaws if he actually cares about his creations? if he were all good, he would not give us evil. He would make us without the urges for evil, otherwise he cannot blame humans if he makes those urges too strong. Why did he make disease? why did he make suffering and pain? if it is merely to test us, that is not the work of a good being. keep in mind, i'm not an atheist, i'm just not religious and i don't worship god/gods, whatever they may be like. i do however know that certain religions apply contradictory natures to god/gods

>>142386905
Milton?

>Daily Theology Thread

>>142376272
At least you're shitting man. I had to take a suppository yesterday just to do it. I can feel a good unko brewing in my ass right now though, so I'm hopeful that I won't need another one.

>エネルギーを持った子です
>エネルギーを持つ子です

Is there any difference in meaning or nuance between these two sentences?

>>142387189
This is the kind of person who gets his knowledge of theology from facebook memes lol.

>>142387189
"good" and "evil" is not something that's inherent to humans. You don't create a good or evil human. Such terms were created by humans themselves, long after we were created. They are a merely a collection of social rules that we established.

For a perfect being like a God, such terms may not even have a real meaning. Animals are not good or evil, they merely fight for survival. Is God imperfect because he created predators, which hurt other animals? From God's point of view, animals killing animals and humans killing humans might not be so different.

We labeled ourselves imperfect by coming up with such terms as a good person or a virtuous person. But what if, from God's point of view, there is nothing wrong with an evil person? You may label God evil, but such terms only hold any meaning for humans.

>>142387189
*tips fedora*

>>142387155
http://jisho.org/search/%E9%9D%A2%E7%9A%B0

The way the voice actor in core pronounces 考える is very satisfying.

>>142387189
If god made us in his own image, that would include free will. That would also include the capacity for good, and evil. God is not all good, he is both all good and all evil at once. He is everything, infinite. This is the paradox of divinity, and of infinity.

He allowed for humans to walk whatever path they would like. This world just IS, it's not good or evil. It was simply created for us to live in. Maybe pain was created as a foil for pleasure, just another paradox to explain the existence of equal and opposites. Humans, like God, simple ARE as we are and how we choose to be. The nature of the universe we live in is of probability, of circumstance. Nothing in this world is anything but circumstance, and yet we also have free will to live in such a random world.

I'm not religious at all by the way, I just believe in math and probability. This is just my own personal view of the world.

>>142387523
We're slowly approacing cosmic indifferentism here.

>>142387685
>This is just my own personal view of the world.

And it's retarded. Stick to talking about anime.

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神様はいるの？信じるの？どうして？

>>142387805
アイムゲイ

>>142387685
well, i agree with you there. but that is not the same as religion, that is simply theology. religion is following practices, traditions, and enforcing habits in order to satisfy something "spiritually".

if that's what you believe, i agree with you, my original post was just that religion itself is overrated

you people are fucking retarded

>>142387685
i assume you believe that god is not all good, but is all powerful, when you say that

>>142387749
Any creationist argument is retarded.

The universe is an entirely random chain of events. Amino acid asteroids, formation of proto-cells over billions of years and the origin of life doesn't hint towards anything else.

>>142388034
the universe is a drip of my cum

>>142387356
nothing

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>tfw you started a massive chain of shitposting by casually making two posts about God
今頃凄く気が済む。

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>>142387954
アイムサーリ

>>142388178
if you have to post 2 admire ur own work in the 3rd person u have a long way 2 go my friend

>>142388018
The idea of a "good" God inherently implies the existence of "evil", since we need something to compare it to. If by this logic we assume God is "good" by acknowledging the existence of evil and his lack thereof, then he is not "good" at all because "evil" exists by his almighty hand. So then God is both "good" and "evil" at the same time, because there is no way for both concepts to exist mutually exclusively.

Saying God is not all powerful because he cannot rid the world of evil makes no sense because using the aforementioned logic, there is no "good" without it's foil of "evil". This argument does not disprove God's infinite capacity.

>>142383873
>1) How long have you been studying Japanese?
2 months
>2) At what stage of learning Japanese are you on currently/what are you studying at the moment?
Partway through Tae Kim's "Essential Grammar" section. Might be spreading it too thin and forgetting earlier lessons, though. I wish each concept came with more practice material.
>3) How many languages do you speak? Which ones?
English, Chinese (verbal only; can't read/write much, but the little I know is helping with Japanese), some Spanish.
>4) What are the current goals you're aiming for?
White Album 2

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は。。。は。。。あは。。。 ---んん！
ああ。。。 きもちわるい。。。

>>142388601
D三三P

>>142388491
Did you study vocab first, or grammar?

>>142388990
>DthirtythreeP

?

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>>142389670
>thirtythree
>thirty

>>142389670
DEEP X 33

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>>142388990
>D mimi P

>>142389549
I memorized hiragana+katakana, then started on grammar. Haven't really started on vocab, aside from what the grammar guide teaches as it goes.

I'm thinking of getting RTK vol 1 using a $5 Google book credit that's expiring soon. Any better ideas?

http://slickdeals.net/f/8782215-free-5-google-books-credit-toward-1st-purchase?v=1

>>142389711
It was just a prank bro. I know 33 is actually 三十三

>>142390203
Could you use it in a sentence

>>142390419
you are 三十三 today

>>142390419
この三十三をチェックしてください

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If I can't recognize spoken hundreds, tens and ones in Japanese after this i'm just gonna go ahead and kill myself

>>142390807
Might as well just get it over with now.
Can't nobody understand those nips when they talk

>>142390140
>I'm thinking of getting RTK vol 1
>Any better ideas?
Not getting it.

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Hey guys! Finished learning both Hiragana and Katana and I'm starting to learn words. I don't feel Anki is helping me learn words or Kanji at all.. is it really the best way?

>>142391474
Anki is just a meme

>>142391474
No. You're better off buying your own $80 copy of the Genki books, then spending $30 or so on RTK, and then buying Rosetta Stone. Good luck.

>>142391552
You're trolling, right?

>>142390807
what website is that?

>>142391535
What should I use then?

>>142391474
Get Human Japanese 2.0 off a torrent site.

>>142391578
Human Japanese

>>142391572
That's rude

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>>142391578
>>142390807
I'd also like to know! Looks helpful.

>>142391614
Can you help me out with finding a reliable link to a torrent?

>>142391630
Fuck you.

>>142391474
>>142391610
Serious answer? Just use anki for at least 1000 words or so before you even consider doing it a different way.
Other ways might even work better for you but it's far far easier to get lazy with them, and when you're just starting is also the easiest time to get lazy because it's overwhelming.
Anki forces you to do it. It's the best way to build a foundation and get to the point where you can at least read like 5-10% of some stuff you see occasionally and that's enough to keep you motivated if you want to drop anki

>>142390140
Here's an advice about RTK from someone who completed it a year ago:
Only do it if you have a reason to regularly write in Japanese.
Not "I want to be able to just in case", you'll fucking forget how to if you don't have a reason to keep writing every day. Real reason, not some misguided idea about how cool would it be to have a notebook filled with random handwritten kanji lying around.
If you don't have a reason then stick to learning through vocab.

>>142391614
is there a crack for 3.0 yet?

>>142391474
>>142391885
Also if you haven't done grammar yet you should do that also. You can start it immediately and learning grammar is probably the one part of learning Japanese with the highest ratio of reward to work put in.

Guys, what's the cap for the number of cards in a deck?

>>142392658
I don't think there's a cap on those.
There's a deck with all of jdict, with like 150 000 cards in it.

>>142392658
2^128 or something insane like that

>>142387578

Jisho is wrong. My スーパー大辞林 has it as めんぽう, as do several other Japanese-language sources, my input system is happy to convert めんぽう to 面皰 but not めんぼう。

I don't know whence jisho sources its entries, but it's wrong here.

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diary entry #382. now that i think about it, i owe my life to the people who were/are involved in making that guide. i wonder how much progress my dumb ass would have made without the help of djt

>>142391765
human japanese on pb first link

Masturbate bafore or after study?

>>142392053
fucking Denuvo

>>142393209
around 5 minutes after

>>142393209
1 stroke per learned kanji

you will know Japanese by the time you nut.

おはようおにいちゃん

おなかすいた

ショートケーキたべたい

>>142393209
while you read, naturally

It's been almost a near now since I've read a full VN
Island looked tempting but I would kinda want to read Himawari first

But as for now I'm still working on getting native-tier listening. Back to gintama.

>>142393544
Keep us posted

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>Doing reps
>Half-paying attention while watching the Incredibles
>勉強に集中しなさい
>Caught off guard
>Glance at Anki
>Word is 集中

s-surely this is just a coincidence???

>>142393606
Don't worry I will

>>142393652
were you watching The Incredibles in japanese?

>>142393716
Well, no, but now I think on it that's not a terrible idea. I don't have subs for it, either, so it'd be a separate download.

That said, it was hard enough to find in English. "Legally" obtaining it in Japanese will probably be harder.

>>142393652
Soon

It'll be over for you

>>142393652
>Half-paying attention while watching the Incredibles
good fucking taste. fuck learning japanese finish that masterpiece first

>>142393918
This is the 9th or 10th time I've seen it

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おはようおにちゃん

あたしもおなかすいた

おいもたべよ

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この男の子はダシュだよ。　彼は足腰が速いけど、背が短いね...

>>142394140
うるさい、醜女.

>>142394367
>ダシュ
>背が短い

>>142394367
>醜女
It's tempting to read this as しゅうとめ

>>142394460

Makes no sense to me. Mine's hot.

>>142394440
彼の名前は 「ｄａｓｈ」だ。ダシュ！ダシュ！

this is my first time producing. feels good

>>142394460
>>142394704
いや、ぶす

>>142394772
Producing what? Simple sentences?

I can't help but feel like that isn't how Dash's name would be rendered. Doesn't sound right when I say it. But until I find the Japanese version and watch it, I guess I'll have to wait to find out

>>142394832
well yeah i started learning almost a month ago its fun. ダシュ would be it in japanese wouldn't it? what else would it be if not ダシュ

>>142394880
Feels too short m8. Maybe ダッシュ or ダーシュ is better, don't you think?

There's almost certainly an official answer, but fuck if I'm not too lazy to search for it

>>142394772
It's definitely ダッシュ, and 短い means short as in length, not as in height. You wanted 背が低い.

>>142394832
ダシ?

>>142394772
＞ただ今始めて日本語で書いてる
＞もう妹さんを苛めやがている
死ね、若僧め

>>142395033
中ダシ

>>142393652
>Doing reps
>Half-paying attention
I'm starting to get why people here have terrible retention and always look for shitty gimmick methods to replace anki.

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>>142394999
>>142394946
thank you anons

>>142395053
how rude

>>142395053
>死ね
every time i hear this i think of reaper in OW, thanks buddy. Time to flip the JP voices back on. I used to have it because the way Mercy says 分かりました makes me hard as a rock. She's got that perfect ara ara~ kind of voice


>>142395060
Fuck off, I love Anki, and since I'm studying for the MCAT these days its all the Japanese studying I have time to do. My retention is fine, but it goes slow as fuck, both because I write as I do my reps

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>>142395053
>やがている

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>>142395172
Oh thanks for reminding me,I forgot to smug at his failed greentext

>>142395060
>implying anki isn't the gimmick
The real method is reading. And it's way harder than flipping flashcards. Anki is a supplement to help you retain what you learned while reading.

>>142395112
失礼なモノはあんただろう

>>142395172
やがっている。
うれしい？

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>>142395291
>うれしい？
べつに

What's the easiest/best way to remember kanji?

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>>142395449

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おなかすいた

たこやきたべたい

ぎんだこおごって

>>142395540
don't

>>142395540
be japanese like>>142395576

>>142395540
I know you dont want to hear it but the best way is mindless repetition

I don't know if this really counts as a strategy, since this is literally what kanji are supposed to be, but eventually you will associate a given character with a general meaning. This will help a lot if you encounter it in a new compound, or encounter a new kanji that looks very similar.

>>142395606

I have to disagree. A structured method like RTK or anything else that uses structural decompostion can take an enormous amount of time and grief out of the process.

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妹は偽物でも妹だ
可愛い愛すべき存在
それが偽物であってもなにも変わりゃしない

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Can I learn japanese?

>>142394122
>film about a beautiful white family with 3 children

Why is this still allowed? Burn all copies.

>>142391977
Thanks for the advice. I'm trying to learn with radicals since it's how I was traditionally taught Chinese characters. I've heard RTK is good for this, but hadn't heard it emphasizes writing too.

>>142396084
What kind of deck is this? Looks too small IMO
>Can I learn japanese?
Probably. But you are still new so don't give up within the first year.

>>142396084
>wasting this much time on mined words
You'd be better off dropping anki and just reading more

>>142396419
a mining deck

you can see the intervals at which I've been adding cards in one of the graphs

>>142396084
Literally anyone can learn Japanese, it doesn't take a genius.

>>142396527
why do you say that?

>It is recommended that you use the Core deck until you have reached a basic vocabulary of roughly 2000 words

That's alot of words

>>142383873
>1) How long have you been studying Japanese?
7 months
>2) At what stage of learning Japanese are you on currently/what are you studying at the moment?
6-7k vocab and 1,8k kanji according to anki, currently reading VNs, manga, and regularly reviewing grammar rules.
>3) How many languages do you speak? Which ones?
My native and English
>4) What are the current goals you're aiming for?
I enjoy studying just by itself, but I'd love to read the Monogatari and the Haruhi series someday.

アニメは
一日に何話観れば日本語ができるようになる？

>>142396831
It's not. It is not nearly enough for reading

>>142396896
>6-7k vocab and 1,8k kanji according to anki, currently reading VNs, manga
>I'd love to read the Monogatari and the Haruhi series someday
Did you try reading them?

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>>142396896
this is me atm, but anki only says 1860 matures, dont know where it says words
also my grammar sucks dick still, yotsubato is ok when they use kanji and i struggle when they dont

here yousuke says わけ which i was just going over in dojg but not 分け, need more practice

>>142397201
Not yet, though based on what I've heard they're on the harder side of things, and I wouldn't want to ruin them too much. I still have a whole bunch of easier stuff I want to read anyway.

>>142393050
All that comes up is Human Centipede movies.

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>>142396831

>>142397557
>at a rate of 30 words a day, you can know 95% of all vocabulary in a newspaper in a little over a year

that's kind of relieving, actually

>>142397776
It is until you realize how critical the remaining 5% to your understanding of shit, and how those 5% is a much bigger amount of words.

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あじフライ、いっぴき５０えんだったよ

べ、べつにおにいちゃんのためにかってきたわけじゃないんだからねかんちがいしないでよね

>>142398112
Ｈｅｙ　ｆａｇ　Ｉ’ｌｌ　ｓｕｃｋ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｄｉｃｋ　ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｗａｎｔ．

>>142398112
アジフライはな～に

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>>142398163
アジだよ

おさかなだよ

やすいよ

おいし・・・い・・くな・・・いよ

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>>142398112
いもうとさんツンデレっぽい

>>142398242
漢字使えてよ

魚類多すぎて覚えるわけがないじゃないの

>>142398261
ツンデレよりヤンデレのほうがいいよね
「お兄ちゃん、そのにおいは何かしら？
まさか他の女とあったわけじゃないわよね？
そんなお兄ちゃん　イ　ラ　ナ　イ」

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>>142398364
でも、おみせでうってるのも、ひらがなだよ

あたしアジってかんじかけないし

>>142383873
1) on my 4th month of grinding anki now
2) just started reading yotsubato
3) english
4) learn japanese

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>>142398545
>そんなお兄ちゃん　イ　ラ　ナ　イ
怖いぞ。。。怖く過ぎる

>>142393209
before

the dopamines will make you not feel like procrastinating if you start the literal instant you cum

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>>142398702
２８．６．４っていうのがわからないかもしれないとおもったよ

平成２８年６月４日っていう意味だよ

にほんは今年は西暦２０１６年のかわりに

平成２８年って書くことになってるよ

>>142393446
I don't think one kanji is considered 'knowing Japanese' though.

>>142399030
そうか

>>142399030
Stop avatar-fagging please, it is against the site rules.

>>142399884
Don't fucking speak to my imouto like that you piece of shit I'll fucking kill you.

>>142399030
いもうとさん英語はともかく、言語の他興味ない？例えば朝鮮語

>>142399982
やけんのげんごにきょうみがあるわけがないよ

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>>142400257
>you on fbi watchlist now congrats

while this sounds menacing isn't it one step away from voyeurism
just a bunch of sweaty men in vans going to town on themselves

>>142399884
The only rules that the mods bother to enforce when it comes to these threads are the ones pertaining to illegal content.

>>142399030
明仁天皇のことどう思う？
ちゃんと崇拝しているか？

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Look at my guide to learning kanji guys XD

http://imgur.com/a/5FRF0

>>142401191
>add a pointless and incredibly tedious step to rote kanji study
>call yourself a "kanji study master"
How do I know this came from reddit?

>>142401191
>still reading children stories
>practice paper isn't even marked
>pig disgusting uneven characters
What's the point of wasting a shit tonne of time on writing if your writing is gonna look like dogshit?
Reddit can't even writefag properly.

>>142401436
If I had to bet I would say because you spend a lot of time there.

>>142401581
ebin

>>142401191
I saw this post lol. The really embarrassing thing was all the people admiring him and downvoting anyone who didn't agree.

>>142384561
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>>142396896
If you want to test yourselves you could do this one
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pan78z20w4o3xjn/Pregrado%20Japones%202015.pdf?dl=0

Just write down a letter for each question and compare it with this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5unxhr07olc466/Respuestas%20Posgrado%20Ingles%20y%20Japones%202015.pdf?dl=0

Reposting this from a couple days ago, don't ask me if it's actually a useful way to test yourself

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>>142383873
>1) How long have you been studying Japanese?
Like 13 months
>2) At what stage of learning Japanese are you on currently/what are you studying at the moment?
Pic related. I don't really study except for doing anki reviews. I talk to people heaps every day and read random internet stuff and VNs occasionally
>3) How many languages do you speak? Which ones?
2
>4) What are the current goals you're aiming for?
Stop having a shit vocabulary

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>>142401855
>I don't really study except for doing anki reviews.

>>142401992
That's pretty normal. Most people don't consider reading studying since it's fun.

>>142383873
1) Off and on for a few years
2) Advanced level; currently studying formal/polite speech (pain in the ass)
3) German and English. I've also started to study Chinese a bit
4) JLPT N1 this year (my first and hopefully last JLPT), becoming fluent at "business level"

What is it with all the business vocab in the core6k? The cute girls in my animays never use these!

>>142402230
Watch anime with less stupid girls