Umineko

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It's very wrong, but I'll forgive you.

>>141799514
Atleast Higurashi hasn't a flawed anime tainting it.

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this is how umineko fags actually live

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>>141799796
>sysadmin
>being an example

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I really don't like those sprites. They're too uncute.
>>141799857
Beato's cheeks aren't even pinchable.

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Is it wrong I like 10 Little Niggers better than Umineko?

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>>141799447
YAMI WO KIRISAKU
OH DESIRE

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I want to fuck Lambdadelta!

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>>141799447
No, because Umineko is better.

>>141799957
But there's no Erika in that book.

>>141799967
SACRIFICE A SHEEP TO GOAT

>>141800029
Necrophilia is gross anon.

>>141799447
Umi had a better atmosphere

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>>141799447
Is it wrong that I want to deito Lucifer?

>>141799447
what is this shitty art rolf

>>141799447
Three last eps are inconclusive garbage

>>141799447
Are those PC sprites? I seem to recall a PC release was announced.

>>141802324
Yes

>>141802324
Steam release.
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=177

>>141802366
For what purpose? Other than moneys.

>>141802439
>other than moneys

What do you need more?

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Do you all think Rosa is a sympathetic character because of her childhood, or is she too abusive for that?

>>141802497
She's a realistic cunt I like her

>>141802501
Looks like the sprites they used for the pachinko thing actually.

>tfw umineko triggered my lust for traps

I hate you ryukishi

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>>141799447
Posting best Seacat.

>>141799447
If it's wrong I don't want to be right. I did like Higurashi, but Seacats just appeals to me more.

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>>141802497
No sympathy but I think she's fun. Her and her daughter are devilishly cute, would fight along side.

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they're stakes, not your waifus

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>>141799447
>that Battler redesign
I can deal with the other sprites, but not that fucking yaoi face

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>>141800889
It's not necrophilia if there's magic.

>>141799447
>>>/jp/ you fuckface

MOOOOODS

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>>141799447
What the fuck?

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>>141803360
Are you mentally challenged?

>>141799447
Honestly, that's more B.Battler's face (and hair) than Battler.

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>>141799447
I like both.

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I want to impregnate the Stakes over and over and over again.

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>>141804965
This series has too much sexy furniture.

Umineko has its flaws but holy shit if it wasn't the best ride ever

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>>141805089
>This series has too much sexy furniture.
>too much sexy furniture
>too much
No such thing.

the main point in umineko is Battler suppose to clear all those mystery save Beatrice from the loop
then ryuukishi fuck up in ep7

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Here's a link to the artbook scans, just in case anybody wants them.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzdNfLGacG1rbHZGVjdVc0VfNXc

>>141805412
Some are weird, but I'm getting a bit used to those pachinko sprites now.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/406550/
That video showing the start didn't look too bad. Will be much better with the ps3 backgrounds too.

Can someone explain to me if the meta world has any actual impact upon the events of the message in the bottle stories or is just a way for us to view the stories and drive along a plot? Or just exactly what is the meta world.

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https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=813524
First episode of Higurashi's Live TV series is out.

>>141805518
Erika's are better because they don't make her look so short and dumpy

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Obligatory post explaining the truth to those too dense to realise it.

>>141805273
There is no loop, it's not like Higurashi. The main point of Umineko is that Beato couldn't be saved.
>>141805523
>Or just exactly what is the meta world.
Wakarimasen lol. It's up to your interpretation.

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>>141805728
What's wrong with a young girl looking short and dumpy?

>>141805598
That Oishi is pretty boss.

>>141799447
I automatically like Umineko more because Battler is based.
Keiichi is a fucking moron. He's like that frustrating dude in a B horror movie making all the dumb decisions.

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>>141804965
Can I, a mammon?

>>141806441
save Beato from miracle and certainty i mean

>>141807770
He's only a retard in EP2/5. Battler is retarded or frustrating in more than a couple episodes.

>>141808685
Battler could be pretty dumb but at least he didn't make me want to break my monitor during certain scenes.

>>141807770
I like Umineko better partly because Battler is husbando material.

>>141808917
It's just the whole Shion thing where K1 acts dumb

Lion a cute
A cuuuuuuuute!

>>141808967
Apart from the second arc? It's fine really. Also, the virus.

>>141799447
It's wrong that you like it in the first place.

>>141809113
A cute girl!

>>141809362
Tumblr please. Transwomen are still guys.

>>141801750
I'm literally going to marry Azusa.

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>>141809565
Lion is 100% a cute girl with a cute vagina. My porn doesn't lie.

Nah OP, I really love seacats, and a lot more than Higurashi. The VN is of my very favourite /a/ related media.
Unless you're talking about the anime vs Higurashi's.

Taken as a complete package I'd say Higurashi is better. Umineko at its best was better than Higurashi, but it peaked around episode 5 or 6 and went downhill pretty fast over the course of the last couple of episodes.

>>141810997
I think episodes 3-6 are the high point of Umineko, with 7 as the weakest.
The thing is, I don't have a problem with the revelations, or what was not revealed in 7 and 8 at all. I think both have strong materia
7 feels too much like a Funeral, and was a sludge to get through, whereas 8 is too upbeat and fantasy based and needed more moments actually grounded in reality (though from what I've seen of the manga for 8, it fixes a lot of the issues I had with it).
A mix of them both with more of the "fun" moments and fantasy and reality instead of splitting both sides up into to episodes would be close to perfect, imo. Much more enjoyable to read.

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>>141811392
7 is one of the best in the series. 6 is one of the worst.

>>141799957
Only read Orient, and it seemed really really dull and unatmospheric.

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>>141799447
Umineko is objectively better than higurashi, seniority be damned

>>141799447
no that is correct, but it is wrong you are playing that version of the game.

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>>141805598
Is that Hanyuu in the top left?
If yes, then she is cute.

>>141799447
>didn't play the higurashi VN
>sprites look terrible
>want to read the manga
>sparse translations
>spend a crap ton of money buying all 26 volumes out in america
>the mystery, characters and dread is fucking fantastic
>ekichi mayabara quickly becomes one of my all time favorite protags after the massacre arc
>ending kinda drops the ball in terms of intensity
>still a great ride
>want to read the manga for umineko next
>not even half the series is released in america
>just as long and each volume is more expensive
Dear god, I don't know how long it will be before I give umineko a read.

Episode 4 and 7 were necessary but not very interesting.

The prison part of episode 4 was flat out disgusting.

>>141813895
just read the vn

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I can't wait to read Ryukishi's next work.

>>141799514
>ekichi becomes a man among men in the second to last arc
>This bitch ruins it
>next volume
>get her backstory
>sympathy overdrive
Christ almighty, anime only kids missed out on major character development with takano. The manga didn't hold anything back with her tragic past. I haven't switched from hating a villain to feeling sorry for them that fast since gaara.

>>141813963
I'll probably end up doing just that

>>141813895
The entire Umineko manga is available online. Translations just finished recently.

>>141813895
Honestly you are missing out a lot if you don't read the VNs
They are called sound novels for a reason you know
The higurashi and umineko mangas might be good but you are missing out on the music and the sound effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVay367HM3Y
Umineko music is so good that you have no excuse not to read the VN over the manga

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>>141799447
Daily reminder that Battler killed everyone and tried to cover it up with fan fiction bullshit

>>141806613
Based just on the first episode I thought he did the best job too.

>>141814757
Battler can't be the culprit. The culprit wore a purple suit.

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>>141813895
> ekichi mayabara

>>141813578
That doesn't look like any version of the game.
I'm guessing you thought it was the PS3 version, and you'd be wrong because that's by far superior.

>>141814757
I'd still fuck him, tbqh.

Based Battler. Tried to protect his imoutos innocence by hiding the truth.

>>141813895
The VN is great.
Ignore the contrarians and make sure you play the version with the ps3 patch and voice acting - the sprites there look good, and the music is top tier. If you go for the manga, you'll miss out on that.
As a bonus, because it's onscripter it can be used on a lot of devices and OSs too.

>>141815385
> That doesn't look like any version of the game.

That's the art for the Steam and pachinko slot versions

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Alright, let's establish a few "facts" so we can shitpost about our tastes:

Belphegor is the best stake.
OMK fighting sprites > original sprites > PS3 sprites > shit > OMK dialogue sprites.
No one did anything wrong.
Kinzo is best grandpa and best character in Umineko in general.

>>141815037
kek

Also, looking for that image where Umineko characters are depicted by different Pokemon. It was made by an anon about two years ago, and I can't find it for a long time.

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>>141815793
>Belphegor is the best stake.

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>>141815793
Your taste is bad, I don't like you.

>>141815793
Rosa did everything wrong.

>>141800029
Sexually?

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>>141815950
Not riding my dick is pretty wrong, yeah.

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>>141815881
She is, though, deito-kun.
Don't worry, Lucifer is a close second or third.

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>>141815414
He's just preserving her innocence so that he can take it later.

It's a lot like wine.

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Such a cute lady turned in such a sexy beast >>141816024

>>141816074
I'd read a story about evil Toya, tb h

I'm glad they made battler have golden skin again. That actually has plot relevance.

One thing I don't get about Black Battler is that didn't Dlanor say back in EP5 that what pieces did had to fit their original personality and the "real" person was capable of doing what the piece did (hence why she thanked him for doing what Bern-Battler did)

Does that mean Battler had it in him to be a murderous sociopath?

>>141816394
Explain? When did he ever have gold skin?

>>141816464
"Gold" as in darker than white skin but not dark enough to be black or brown.

Battler's white skin in the PS3 sprites made it much easier to doubt that he was Rudolph's son.

One thing I find funny (not sure how intentional it is) is that Battler spends most of Episode 8 trying to get Ange to move on from the past and leave the Island behind and live in the future when he himself basically kills himself when he could have left the island and continued living. And that way Ange wouldn't have been alone either - he fucked them both over.

>>141816522
Ahh, he looks a bit too fake-tan orange for me in the original sprites.
I'll admit I like the paler skin from a purely aesthetic point of view. It goes better with the rest of his design, imo.

Both Kyrie and Battler seem to wear crosses on their clothing (inverted in Battler's case).
I wonder if it was intentional - are there any other characters wearing crosses?

>>141816608
Your opinion isn't wrong. I'm glad they made it darker again, though. It was part of how the question arcs' foreshadowing worked. Uncertainty as to battler's paternage wasn't one of the intended things; when he couldn't say "I am a Asumu's son" that was supposed to imply that Rudolph had another son out of wedlock and they got swapped.

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Rosa > Natushi > Eva > Kyrie

Don't you ever dare to respond to me when your opinion is different.

>>141816686
Hmm, I played with the PS3 sprites and it never really occurred to me that Battler wasn't Rudolf's real son.
Personally, from the moment it was revealed that Asumu wasn't his mother, bearing in mind earlier Kyrie had said that she and Asumu had the same duedate for their babies (in episode 3 I think?), I was pretty certain that he was Rudolf and Kyrie's son.

Though I originally thought that the Sumadera family had swapped the babies because they disproved of the Ushiromiya's, not Rudolf himself.

>>141816739
Natushi a best, Rosa a worst though.

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>>141816421
Honestly, a lot about him is a mystery, looking at just OMK.

He really seems to hate his role as the culprit but still does it. What's making Black Battler kill everyone if even Black Battler doesn't want to kill everyone?

Who actually summoned him? Why does he need to be summoned if the Battler culprit theories created him? What does he do between being created and being summoned?

Why is Shannon so much different around him?

Why is his boss version so different from his regular version?

>>141816284
What chapter is this that has young Rosa?

How canon is the manga and the things it "adds"?
Did R07 write it?

>>141818171
It's completely canon. Ryukishi did write it.

>Black Battler sounds like Black Butler
>Daisuke Ono voices both Battler and Sebastian
P O T T E R Y

>>141818210
Thanks.
From what I've read of Episode 8 I really like the changes it added particularly.
Not a huge fan of the art (although it's pretty inoffensive) but I might actually buy it when they're released in the west.

VN is over?

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>>141818728
No man, it's been on-going for like 10 years but still has all these different versions coming out.

It's really stupid, since they don't even know how it'll end yet.

>>141818728
Hai, the final episode came out December 2010.

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Just give me TRianThology already

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Umineko has some of the most believable characters I've ever read in some of the most unbelievable scenarios I've ever read.

>>141813486
Umineko is objectively bad though

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>you will never help Erika and Dlanor hunt down and execute witches.

>>141818884
Someone over at /jp/ said that it will be released at Comiket (which is in August) according to this, but I'm not sure if it's actually true since I can't read Jap

http://07th-expansion.net/Cgi/clip/clip.cgi

>>141819201
My phone translated the page, that guy is correct.

>>141819201
Translation never

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Every thread until we reach the Golden Land.

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>>141805598
>dat rika
why is 3D so pig disgusting

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>>141819603
Hello, I am posting from the Golden Land to tell you that your theory sucks.

>>141819201
>コミケまでもう少しございます
I guess it means we can expect it next Comiket yes.
Also the first chapter of country girl is online, haven't read it yet. http://seiga.nicovideo.jp/watch/mg157217?track=ct_first

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>>141800029
I want to take a big fat bloody shit into Bernkastel's womb!

>>141819855
>Also the first chapter of country girl is online
There are 5 chapters out, 3 of them are translated already

http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/country-girl-from-trianthology-alice-in-the-land-of-the-three-sided-mirror-r18547

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>>141819148
>you'll never be there for dlanor going batshit

higurashi was shit. so no.

>>141799957
Comparing apples to oranges, since Ten Little Niggers is a proper mystery, while Umineko uses the mystery genre itself to tell a story, but the focus isn't really in the mystery.

>>141819937
Dlanor's engrish is the best.

How were the words which were capitalised in the translation written in the original? Katakana?

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>>141819927
Oh nice.

Umineko is all right but overall I would say it's like Higurashi if Higurashi got lost up its own ass with all the alternate realities and truths vs conspiracies.

>>141819937
Damn are there some archived threads from when EP5 came out?

>>141819955
This. Anyone approaching Umineko as a mystery in the first place - at least by the time they've read a couple of episodes is retarded and missing the point entirely.

>>141820078
I can see why you would think that, but I totally disagree because all the meta-fiction and the truth vs fantasy talk really clicked with me and I found it actually engaging in a way that's very, very rare for me. But hey, it obviously didn't work for you and that's okay too.

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Just passing through to say that When Seacats Cry (sic) is superb, and you should read it if you're already finished with Umineko.

Don't worry, it is extremely enjoyable, even if you will miss a few references, the writing is great, and it heavily expands upon the whole meta-fiction concept.

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>>141820349
>Seacats

I'm triggered. That makes me think about how Stupid Goats Reading Seacats abruptly ended because akatokuro and yumetabibito suddenly abandoned Tumblr.

>>141820349
>Kyrie and Battler didn't know they were related while they were still alive.
>We will never have a mother and son murder team
Why live.

>>141820349
I just can't get past the original sprites to read it.

>>141820349
On the topic of fanworks, anyone knows what happened to DameDame? It was funny as fuck, unlike Witches and Woodlands.

>>141820519
>he doesn't like the original sprites
>he didn't read through both Higurashi and Umineko with original sprites and BGs
Dude, literally why?

>>141820568
I find them really, really ugly and painful to look at.
I know the PS3 sprites are very generic, but i like them and especially the like CGs.

Re: OP

Because it's better

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>>141820519
>not liking ryu07's art

>>141821006
Prove that it's not objectively bad.
Use the red truth.

>>141820967
This.
Aside from the fact the Higurashi anime is better than the Umineko one, I don't know why this isn't the general consensus.

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>>141803608
What the fuck?

>>141821471
Man, "battered wife" syndrome aside, Ryu's art is so much more expressive than PS3 version.

>>141816560
Ange made it off the island and Battler wanted her to move on from the tragedy.

Battler "kills himself" with Beatrice because he wanted to undo the mistake that led to all of this. He only wants Beatrice now because he "believes" in her. I actually equate this with Christianity and how if you "lose your life for My sake, you will keep it".

>>141821566
Your post is contradictory.

>>141821278
Because Umineko goes to shit after EP5. Basically it becomes "I DONT LIKE YOUR OPINION" and "FUCK YOUR FREE SPEECH MUH FEELINGS"

>>141821744
How?
I admitted that I have a "battered wife" syndrome, and that Ryu's art is pretty shit, but it's way better at showcasing emotions than PS3 art.

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Smug Jessica.

>>141822097
I want Jessica to punch me to death

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>tfw all these wonderful characters I love died the year before I was born

It's not wrong until you start episode 6.

>>141821710
>because he wanted to undo the mistake that led to all of this.
But killing "himself" doesn't really do anything to make up for that mistake.

>>141822371
It does if he's the killer.

>>141821757
> "I DONT LIKE YOUR OPINION" and "FUCK YOUR FREE SPEECH MUH FEELINGS"
You're missing the point, and I'm too lazy to try and explain it when you probably won't even read it.

If that's really the reason that people don't like Umineko, then I suppose it's a good way of weeding out those with no reading comprehension.

Can someone post that screenshot of an anon who just finished Episode 3?

You know the one

>>141822243
I was born in 1984...
I... I wish I had been there that night in October 1986... I could have saved them... I could have saved them all...

>>141819937
that's a lot of desus

>>141822371
It's just shitty writing to justify Battler coming back a gazillion years later. He drowned to try to save a crazy tranny who got his family killed (despite not doing it herself) because apparently the first thing you do when your family, including innocent children and servants die, is flirting, falling in love and getting amnesia.

>>141822463
Keep telling yourself that when EP8 exists.

>>141822439
My husbando is far too innocent to murder someone!

>>141822537
the best part is that dlanor is voiced by stinku's seiyuu so it's like ultrameta and shit

>>141799447
>Official localization still has the shitty backgrounds
>Meanwhile modders added in actual backgrounds years ago
Are there at least going to be CGs?

>>141822537
Actually, if you count them, it's exactly the amount of dead people on the island.

>>141822580
Not that guy, but I'm gonna try to explain briefly what's my viewpoint on it.

Featherine, Lambda and Bern mention numerous times that there is no evidence left in 199-whatever of what transpired on that night in 1986, and they claim it in red, if I recall correctly.

The point is, if you can't figure out the truth because it's literally impossible, you are free to believe whatever you want, so why not believe something that you want to believe?

For all we know, Tohya and Featherine are two con artists trying to swindle Ange. 199-whatever viewpoint is unreliable, and so is 1986.

After all, it's all fiction. Schroedinger's box. A bunch of lies that might or might not coincide with the truth.

Whatever we know about 1986 is covered in mystery and told by numerous contradicting stories, and whatever we know about 199-whatever is told from Ange's viewpoint.

>>141822580
>Keep telling yourself that when EP8 exists.
The point was that Ange was looking for the truth for the wrong reasons, and not allowing herself to live in her time.
Getting the truth wouldn't help her one bit, and in the first place there isn't a one simple "truth".
"The truth" changes based on the lens of the observer, and you can only speculate based on known facts and biased observer accounts (in this case Eva's diary) about what really happened.
The point was that the "Truth" wasn't what Ange was really looking for in the end, as she learned by the end of the story.

And the story clearly shows the bad side to believing in a fantasy too - the whole thing was catalysed because Yasu deluded his/herself into believing in something that wasn't there, and took it way too far.

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>>141822591
It's okay, he doesn't want himself to be the killer either.

That's why he killed himself and why his immortal actual-for-reals killer version keeps trying to get himself killed.

>>141802366
Why can't they just use the PS3 art?
Why would anyone get this over the patched version?

>>141822776
I love filtered photograph backgrounds in VNs.

>>141822977
They were too poor to license those graphics or commision good graphics
No voice acting either

Meanwhile modders have done this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muc2B0DL-zg

>>141822977
Because the PS3 art is from Alchemist and they're either unwilling or charging too much to license it.

I never played with the PS3 art anyway so I won't be missing it.

>>141822971
Where is Black Battler actually from? Is he at all "canon"?

>>141822977
>Why can't they just use the PS3 art?
It's owned by Alchemist. Or at least it was, but they went bankrupt recently, so I'm not sure who owns it now

>>141822835
That's the catbox. It's here since EP2 and it's okay, it works. What I'm talking about is how this catbox is used in the later issues to call heartless anyone who doesn't go with Ange's bullshit. Goats are assholes because they theorize, Bern is a bitch because she says that Kinzo didn't like baby-killing body-hiding Natsuhi (however it's perfectly okay for Natsuhi to lie about a dead man), and all that stuff.

>>141822930
>The point was that Ange was looking for the truth for the wrong reasons, and not allowing herself to live in her time.
Except it was done by "you must believe everyone is innocent somehow" instead of "it's irrelevant now just move on". And Ange's part in the story relies on adults being complete retard who tolerate harassment at ridiculous levels.

>>141823049
Meanwhile modders didn't have to pay a cent for that.

>>141823074
Battler is the killer, of course Black Battler is canon.

>>141823101
Exactly, they aren't in it as a pointless cash in of a VN that has been translated for years

>>141823083
> What I'm talking about is how this catbox is used in the later issues to call heartless anyone who doesn't go with Ange's bullshit.
And again, that's just Ange's viewpoint as she tries to disbelieve things she doesn't like. It's all in her head.

>>141823049
>No voice acting either
What's even the fucking point?
I hope no-one buys that without knowing that the patched version is easily available, and for more than just windows too.

On that note, is there an onscripter version of Umineko translated?
The mangagamer version ui is a headache, especially on mac where I need to use wine.

>>141823074
He's from Ougon Musou Kyoku CROSS, and he also appears in Umineko Hane

>>141823162
Yeah, The Witch Hunt translation patch works with all versions of OnScripter. Just drag and drop to replace the default data files. I love how the engine is native to OSX and Linux as well as windows.

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>>141823177
Doesn't Bern's game in 8 also count as an appearance for him?

>>141823162
Shit, I meant Higurashi, obviously.

>>141823177
>Umineko Hane
is that a fandisc?

>>141823162
Of Higurashi, you mean?
Because Umineko translations were always on onscripter.

And no, there's no Higurashi onscripter version besides episode 1 from Shion and Mion's translation, and I doubt it's even available for download anywhere anymore.

Mangagamer's new version is pretty nice and moddable, though.

>>141823223
Yeah, I know, that's how I read seacats.
I meant Higurashi

>>141823157
It'd be fine if it was just one viewpoint, but it's also the author's viewpoint and he keeps reminding you of it. If you go with the trick ending (which is just calling things without embellishing them unecessarily) you're forced to become a schizophrenic murderer.
The only counterweight to the magic viewpoint is Yasu's flashback, but it doesn't means much when he's so glorified in the last installments.

>>141823268
>Mangagamer's new version
How new?
I'm not sure which version I downloaded.

I think I have the episode 1 translation, but I couldn't find the original game to play it (the torrents I found got stuck at around 95% for days so I gave up)

>>141823310
>but it's also the author's viewpoint and he keeps reminding you of it
And his opinion doesn't matter for shit.
Later Queen problem and all that.

>>141823340
The one that's coming out on Steam right now.
Only two episodes are out and it's multiplatform (Windows, Linux, OS X).

>>141823232
Not sure since he's wearing normal Battler's clothing in that.

Speaking of that game, did anyone solve it first time without looking at any of the clues whatsoever?

I thought it was actually pretty good - hard but solvable. I ended up getting impatient when I got stuck on a points or two and looked at the clues but what I did on my own was pretty satisfying.

>>141820443
They were annoying SJWs who called Battler "selfish" and "trash" for not responding to Beatrice properly but never frowned upon Yasu at all.

>>141823401
Oh, thanks!
Multiplatform also means no Wine required which is a plus.

Still, voice patch when? The PS2 version has voice acting, does't it?

>>141823459
>for not responding to Beatrice properly
How the fuck was he supposed to respond to what seemed like the woman that murdered his entire family?

>>141823498
https://github.com/higurashi-mod

>>141823498
The Steam version has a patch that adds the art and voices from the PS3 game

>>141823537
That's what I always thought. They were really bizarrely critical of him.

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>>141823049
>mfw danknug blazeinator hits and shit goes down

>>141823549
>>141823562
Well, shit.
Thanks - sounds like I should go install this and start reading Higurashi now. Though I want to finish reading Rewrite pretty soon too - at least in time for the anime.

>>141823456
Well, doesn't he also wear Battler's clothes outside of the meta world in Forgery no. XXX?

>>141823677
Keep in mind that only the first two out of eight parts have been released, so you will need to read the original for the rest

>>141823232
Yeah, that was him. I think it's confirmed in Hane from what I remember

>>141823778
That or wait six months between each release.

>>141823840
Or learn french and enjoy the original sprites

>>141823778
>first two out of eight parts
They're doing Rei and Hou as well, so it's really 2 out of 10. It will take years before it's finished

>>141823778
Yeah, it'll be a good taste of what the VN's like at least.
Though Umineko gave me "must keep reading" syndrome really bad and I ended up reading the entire VN at a kinda ridiculous pace.

>>141823938
> kinda ridiculous pace
I remember when I was still in university, and I've read through episodes 1 through 7 (that was the last translated one at that point) in less than a week or so.

My daily schedule literally consisted of "wake up - shower - eat - Umineko - eat - shower - sleep".

>>141824052
Haha, that sounds like me.
Episode 1 I took it slow, but by the time I got to the second half I was going at an episode a day in some kind of daze.

When I watched/read something else with fantasy elements around then, I found myself automatically trying to find the "truth" behind the illusions and a way it could be done by human means before having to tell myself wait no this is actually fantasy.

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>>141823778
When's Tatari coming out?
I want to hear all the delicious Satoko.

>>141824652
It's supposedly being ported over as it is entirely translated+edited. As everyone at MG is on minimum wage, expect it on steam"Soon".

>>141824652
https://twitter.com/RPGSite/status/733873443850981378
24/6

>>141823310
>The only counterweight to the magic viewpoint is Yasu's flashback, but it doesn't means much when he's so glorified in the last installments.

The extremity of Maria's magic in episode 4 could also be considered a counterweight.

Just a reminder, if you believe the "Official" explanation to Umineko, R07 has successfully tricked you and made you stop thinking. I've studied and wracked my brains and come to a completely different conclusion, and not only can I prove it, but I can prove the official explanation is completely impossible. I've made a YouTube series illustrating my point, you can watch the first here https://youtu.be/JHMta4YbjSM

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>>141827498
I have yet to see anyone explain this with the Rosatrice theory

They're releasing the entirety of the question arcs at once? That's pretty based, and smarter than the diminishing returns approach of Higurashi's release.

>>141827498
I still miss those days of arguing against that fucking video.

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>>141827498
>159 minutes and 12 seconds

>>141802497
Pretty much all the Ushiryomias manage to be both A) Sympathetic and B) Terrible people.

>>141810997
How can you say it peaked at 5-6 when 7 is the best episode.

>>141828655
They managed to be pretty real
I actually found the glaring distinction between the fiction-esque Ushiromiyas and the real Ushiromiyas to be beautifully done.

>>141827498
Only looking at the thumbnail
>using caps from the anime
For what reason?

>>141828624
kek. Saved.

>>141828741
>7 is the best episode.
>there are actually people
Though in all seriousness, while it's easily my least liked ep I'm kinda glad there are people who genuinely like 7 best.

>>141828887
The "reality" shattering the "fantasy" is kinda of sad though.
But yeah, I agree. And the blend of both is done really nicely.
That's my problem with Episodes 7 and 8 - they lean too heavily on one side of the fantasy/reality equation and as a result 7 ends up being depressing to read and 8 feels too fake and unrealistic. It loses the balance the prior episodes had.

>>141828655
The kids don't really seem like terrible people though.
Makes you wonder what kind of fuck ups they might become as adults if they hadn't died.

>>141828448
I laughed hard when the Ep8 manga started destroying Rosatrice.

Especially funny for me because there was very little I hadn't already figured out "revealed".

>>141829331
I just want that moment where we've all been fooled for years and Ryu writes a follow up that reveals who really did it. It won't happen, but a man can dream.

>>141829455
>moment where we've all been fooled for years and Ryu writes a follow up that reveals who really did it.
>tfw it was Battler all along and that's why he basically killed himself even though he survived the incident and Eva doesn't want to tell Ange.

>>141829572
It was Jessica. Everything really points to her.

>>141827498
this is why I love Umineko

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>>141828624
There are 4 parts and the total time is 536 minutes and 11 seconds.

When you first started reading Episode 1, who did you find suspicious, /a/?

>tfw you thought Godha seemed suspicious and now feel like an idiot.

>>141829906
I was too overwhelmed to really suspect anybody.

It wasn't until 3 that I started to think.

>>141829972
I stopped thinking until Episode 4 and just went "yeah, a witch did it, what's the point in arguing against this Battler?"

>>141829865
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>141829906
Rosa and Maria.

>>141829972
Even before the murders started? No one seemed shifty to you?

>>141830373
Oh all the adults were shifty, but when they started dying I couldn't think about who might have been killing them.

>>141829906
Thought George was suspicious almost as soon as he was introduced.

>>141799447
holy shit those sprite are ugly
literally worse than r07's art

>>141832781
in EP1 i really think him team-up with shanon and kill everyone

>>141820052
me on left

>>141833946
Half way right.

>>141829906
Kanon always just seemed like the most obvious and most suspicious person.

>>141829906
Kumasawa, honestly. She was always peeking around corners and spying on people and apparently had a rep for being intimately familiar with the island's legends. Found her more suspicious than Genji, too, because of the very fact that she'd been employed nearly as long but hadn't earned the eagle. Maria also never mentioned what the Beatrice who gave her the umbrella looked like and it would have made perfect sense for the portrait to have been how she looked as a younger woman. I think I nurtured the pet theory that she was Beatrice until around EP3 when she 'turned into' Virgilia, most likely.

>>141834901
This is pretty obvious in hindsight. But the fantasy narrative presented him so against Beatrice that it was easy to assume he was innocent.

>>141830373
I just took the story as it went. I didn't treat it as a mystery, just chugging along to see what was actually happening. And then nobody was left alive.
So the Tea Party really got to me.

>>141835238
I wish I could find a bunch of archived Umineko discussion as it was being released.

Episode 3 is the embodiment of the epitome of fictional storytelling, nothing will come close in our life time.

>>141836184
I saved some of the EP7 shitstorm threads from /jp/ when that first came out, but I'd really like to relive the good times from the when question arcs were new.

>>141836238
The ending for Episode 3 is a masterpiece.

>>141836295
Post what you got - that was one of the best shitstorms for Umineko. Warosu's been down and Desustorage still hasn't finished with the moe database. If you have images that's even better.

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>Beatrice in the "Improved" art looks like a drag queen
>Battler now looks like a tanned homosexual
>Jessica's eyes are so low that she looks like a cro-magnon
Surprisngly accurate

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>>141836874
Seems like I've got at least some images (I think it only saved thumbs for images I didn't actually expand). I can't say much for the quality of the threads but I'd imagine if I bothered to save them at all they must have entertained me. I'll see about tossing them up on mediafire or something.

>>141837267
Thanks Anon

>>141836295
>but I'd really like to relive the good times from the when question arcs were new.
Never again, Anon.
I hope I can experience something like that again in my lifetime but it's not likely.

>>141837291
Might take a while to upload, but I'll try to deliver. Worst case, if this thread dies before I can, there's an active Umineko thread on /jp/ right now: >>15174023

>>141837547
Literally the worst. Even if opinions on Umineko's ultimate outcome diverge pretty wildly, I think we can all agree that no other piece of fiction will ever be the same kind of wild ride that was reading Umineko for the first time.

>>141838072
Fuck, I mean >>>/jp/15174023

>>141836874
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r7oofi7l93oxq/Umineko_EP7_jp

It's not much, but I hope some anons can enjoy the trip down memory lane.

>>>/r/Bern_is_objectively_the_best_girl

>>141838890
Much appreciated

>>141838986
heh

>>141829331
If it took people until the EP8 manga to realize Rosatrice was bullshit they never deserved the truth in the first place.

>>141805598
Will this be subbed anytime soon?

When is Hotarubi starting up?

>>141805598
What? This is a thing? Wow.
Why can't they just stop?

>>141840903
Last month.
Though last I saw, we only had gook scans for half of the first chapter.
I'd love some proper scans for download.

>>141840903
It already has started. Scanlations aren't out yet because there are no raws.

>>141841253
Why you retards always use word "scanlation", when translators don't even scan?
Stop it, you fucking idiots.

>>141840253
Never underestimate the power of autism.

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>>141822481
Here you go.

So who is meta battler and how did he find his way into the meta world if real battler survived and got off the island?

>>141847232
Meta battler created by real battler in the stories written by aurora.

So what happens after the anime?

Anime was pretty shit.

>>141848280
Read the novels.

>>141827498
Never gets old.

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>>141848280
Right after the anime? The cutest, smartest, funniest, most perverted girl, all around best girl shows up.

>>141822725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJueMZJbIc

I bet Sawashiro had fun with this.

>>141848426
Yeah, Dlanor comes into play, not sure why you posted Erika though.

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>>141848426
> that failure of a detective
> best anything

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Reminder that Will didn't need any witch powers to solve the mystery, and did it all in a single game, only reading the first 4 games and asking around.

Meanwhile Erika had mary sue powers, nearly all siblings' support, support from TWO powerful witches, had Dlanor assisting her through the way, got a second chance to make up for her first failure, and still couldn't get even an inch closer to the truth.

Willard: 01
Erika: -02

>>141848894
That's because Erika couldn't see THE HEART of the story. :^)

>>141812174
Fucking agreed.
With the worst one being 4.

>>141815793
OMK sprites>PS3 sprites>shit>original sprites.

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>>141848894
Will's game was especially made for him to solve. There was no difficulty.

>only reading the first 4 games
Erika didn't have this opportunity and actually had opponents to fight.

>>141849278
So? Erika had two games basically made for her to solve, with additional support and powers. Will had nothing but himself and did it better,

>Erika didn't have this opportunity
Erika actually got all the info about what has been going on before entering the game, so no.

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>>141849402
>Erika had two games basically made for her to solve
Not really. These games were very obviously Battler's to solve.

>Will had nothing but himself and did it better,
As I said, there was no challenge. Everything was lined up for him.

>Erika actually got all the info about what has been going on before entering the game
It's been a while since I read Umineko, but I don't remember this. I remember Erika saying something like "so this is how it works in here" when she started fighting in meta, though.

>>141799543
Blocked out the memories anon?

>>141843666
Thanks pham

So do you think Battler really fucked up in Episode 6, or was it all a ploy to get Beato to 'revive'.

It seems like he instantly knew what Beato thought of when she 'saved' him

>>141829906
I actually suspected the adults. But they died early so there's that.

>>141822977
Alchemist went bankrupt nigga

>>141849600
I think he fucked up big-time on that game. If it wasn't for moe-trice, erika would've crushed battler's balls in their honeymoon.

>>141849600
>>141850278
>erika would've crushed battler's balls in their honeymoon
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlyqr5nbw74

>>141849600
Wasn't it clearly implied later that he fucked up because he was betting on a "miracle" to revive Beatrice?

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Why is Erika so lewd?

I'm really surprised that Will is actually popular and liked.
I didn't hate him but he was easily one of my least favourite characters (and barely had a character at that) and I was sure he would be disliked by the fandom.

>>141848280
>Watching the Umineko anime before reading the VN
>watching the Umineko anime ever

>>141838890
>>141836874
>https://foolz.fireden.net
I'm not sure how the /jp/ archives are but the /a/ ones cover most of what was lost from moe.

I'm really curious about reactions to Chiru myself. Would the better reactions be before the english translation was released, or just from the raw release?

>>141799447
No, it's expected.

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>>141800132
>that blue
Pfft.

>>141849513
>Not really. These games were very obviously Battler's to solve.
Battler was no longer the detective, Erika was. Her role was to solve them, not Battler's.

>As I said, there was no challenge. Everything was lined up for him.
How? Aside from Lion, there was no change in the pieces or setting.

>It's been a while since I read Umineko, but I don't remember this.
Read again. She did knew what happened in the previous games.

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Posting the best UNTZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei6cC93h84I

Can we expect a resurrection of umineko popularity due to the steam release?

>>141816739

Sorry, that CG of Kyrie with the gun made me love her forever.

>>141822835
>Actually, if you count them, it's exactly the amount of dead people on the island.
What? I count many more than 17.

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>>141851445
>steam release
WHAT

>>141851576
Have you been in a fragment under a rock bern? >>141802366

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>>141799957
>>141812734
Ten Little Niggers is worse than Umineko. That thing with gun at the end was just a fucking asspull and floor explanation sucked, you couldn't find an answer because of it. This story have no heart and love.

>>141851637
I wish I didn't know, that artwork is worse than the PS3 version.

>>141851676
Doesn't matter. By virtue of being a steam release, the modding community will probably mod in PS3 sprites, backgrounds and voices in a few days.

>>141799447
Is that black battler?

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>>141851402
I respectfully disagree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uy6rfyZwnU

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>>141800029
>>141800889

Useless! No one can beat Lambda!

>>141851828
Not cool, Orange Juice gives me PTSD.

I really wish Black Battler had been fleshed out more. I honestly all along wanted Battler to be the culprit so I was excited to see a scenario where he was.

>>141851716
Does the Steam release have the same music as the PS3?

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I want to lewd Maria.

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>>141852335
Scans of this series never

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>>141851366
>Battler was no longer the detective, Erika was. Her role was to solve them, not Battler's.
I worded it poorly. Erika's solving wasn't the main point of these games. Battler had a lot of shit going on, which seemed like the focus. In EP5, Erika's job wasn't to solve the game, it was to frame Natsuhi.

>How? Aside from Lion, there was no change in the pieces or setting.
Kinzo was alive and willing to respond to any question. Will was able to get all the answers he wanted. If Erika had no ulterior goals like she had in EP5 and EP6 (defeating Battler rather than solving Rokkenjima), things could've been different. I doubt Erika wouldn't solve her own EP7.

>Read again. She did knew what happened in the previous games.
I guess I can't deny this, but it's hard to believe she knew everything.

>>141853102
>In EP5, Erika's job wasn't to solve the game
Again, the role of the detective, as in the person that has to solve the mystery, was taken away from Battler and given to Erika. And while is true that from a story perspective Battler still has the focus and is still trying to solve the mystery (from a meta perspective, at least), from a game perspective Erika is, by all means, the detective.

>Kinzo was alive and willing to respond to any question.
And yet most of the things he did were already known by the siblings (and he ended up lying anyways, so...).

> Will was able to get all the answers he wanted.
And Erika could have too. She was instantly liked by everyone who weren't Battler, Jessica or Maria, and even had Eva helping her. She even had Shkanontrice in front of her face at one point and discarded it because she thought it was too stupid. It's her own fault she didn't succeed with that much support.

>but it's hard to believe she knew everything.
She did. She had a recap for everything that happened until that point, thanks to Bernkastel. Also, she is Bern's self-insert, so it makes sense she has known everything that has happened, since Bern has been around since the beginning.

>>141851646
Spoken like a true 60 IQ.

>>141845122
YES PLEASE!

>>141845122
What if Maria was actually Flandre in disguise? It all makes sense now. The crazyness and shit.

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>>141851733
Nope~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggn8riHTDqw

>>141847232
Meta Battler is Hachijou Tohya's identity as "Battler" that was lost at sea.

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>>141854492
Flan isn't even full-blown crazy, just kinda quirky and unstable.

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>>141851886
Show me on the Nanako doll where the Orange Juice touched you.

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Why is Battler ranked highly (or at all, really) on power level charts like pic related?
I wouldn't think he had any power at all.

>>141856973
Because the chart is complete shit, that's why.

>>141857201
But they can't be that retarded, can they?