Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1529

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What is your motivation, DJT?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Freedom is the core of all human progress. It believes that nothing's given to us, but if you're willing to work hard. If you're willing to compete, the American dream is there for you.

>>141064014
I've given up on reality.

>>141064014

I want to play JP-only games and JP-only VNs and read JP-only manga.

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今日も仲良くしてねみんな

一緒にラップやろうよ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFGoMUWz5rE

>>141064014
目的は一つ：　お友達救う

>>141064044
自分で考えろブロ

http://zip.2chan.net/z/res/72412.htm

>村の掟と庄屋様が統治する古い伝統の板
性質の悪い大喜利始めるからなあ…
優しさと対応の速さはやっぱり虫板かな
専門家がシフト組んで対応してるのかってくらい回答が早い

>A board of old conventions, governed by a village head and village laws
Has a comedy of bad taste started?
I guess the insects board has fast and kind responses afterall
???I guess the experts take shifts to respond quickly??

what is シフト組んで?

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

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Which cards do you all use with the DoJG deck?

I've been using the cloze ones so far and treating the deck basically like Core but for grammar, but I'm starting to have second thoughts about continuing to do so. It's pretty easy to mix up similar concepts based on the short usage descriptions, and another problem is that once you've seen a key sentence a few times, you remember what the missing part is rendering the cloze deletion pointless.

I'm starting to think a more effective use of the deck might be as follows:
>use the recognition cards
>first time you see a card, read everything on it
>hit "good" once you've read everything, and hit "good" again when it re-appears 10 minutes later (optionally re-reading all or part of the card if you feel you need to)
>when you see the card again in your reviews, read the key sentences, example sentences and formation tables
>if you feel that your understanding of the concept is still pretty weak, read the notes too and then hit "hard"
>if you feel that your understanding of the concept is fairly good, hit "good"
>if you feel that the concept is very familiar to you, hit "easy"

By doing this, you will be using the deck to review material at varying intervals, rather than treating the cards as something to get right or wrong like you would with vocab cards. Given how little information vocab cards contain, and how much information the DoJG cards contain, I don't think it's particularly logical to approach them both the exact same way (especially when, while you may be able to recall the answer to a cloze card based on the usage description, your understanding of that particular concept may actually be very weak in practice).

Thoughts?

>>141064014
To learn Japanese.

>>141064449
To what end?

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>>141063869
Sorry if this is a stupid question to ask, but does anyone know what happened to Namasensei's japanese lessons? They were pretty fun and I wanted to watch a few of them but he set them to private.

>>141064449
not joking, my interest in weeb stuff has died recently and learning japanese has become a goal in itself

I dont even want to go to japan really anymore.. its not because im disillusioned its just that i cant get excited about my chinese cartoons anymore

>>141064014
I read too fast and interpret images so easily that reading manga is just not entertaining because I read it so quickly. I'm learning japanese so that I can read manga in a language I'm not literate in.

How bad of a idea is it to take college Japanese classes?

I'm fluent speaking (I'm half japanese) wise and can read hiragana, but I can't write jack shit nor read any kanji so I was thinking of taking some Japanese classes to brush up on it.

I mean sure theirs going to be some weaboos, but it can't be that bad right?

>>141064292
>シフト組んで?
You got it right. But on pretty much every line you misunderstood the grammar in some way and
>comedy
I have no idea where you got that from

>>141064598
maybe you have clinical depression go to the doctor and/or examine your dietary and fitness situation

>>141064598
>not joking, my interest in weeb stuff has died recently and learning japanese has become a goal in itself
same for me
>inb4 leave /djt/ if you don't read Mango/VN

>>141064674
I mean I guess if you're dumb so you need some As to pad your grades then go ahead. It'll be a huge waste of time though. You could do RTK in a few months and be ready to read manga.

>>141064784
additionally do you have sex at all

>>141064586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqJ5wU4FamA&list=PL9987A659670D60E0

They've been back for a while now.

研究グループの横田知之講師は「人間広告のような活用法もあるし、ファッションの一部としてもよいし、いずれ街行く多くの人が皮膚にディスプレーを身に付けるほど身近なものになるよう、開発に取り組んでいきたい」と話しています。

"Research Group Lecturer.... stated "It has applications for human advertising, its useful to a portion of fashion, and surely many citygoers attaching it to their skin will become familiar, i want to continue resarching "

Dident quite get this part: いずれ街行く多くの人が皮膚にディスプレーを身に付けるほど身近なものになるよう
what is the よう at the end for?

>>141064476
No particular end. There are things I would enjoy doing, but they are by no means goals. I just want to learn the language, I want to read a full complicated and complex sentence, and understand it fully.

My goal is simply to learn Japanese.

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>>141064843
Oh fuck, my bad. Thanks anon.

>>141064066
>母は血のにじむような苦労をして私を育ててくれた

>>141064731
help??

大喜利 = comedic dialog according to rikaichan

>>141064936
Wow...

>>141064882
Same as ように check DOJG or something

>>141064936
I think it is sometimes used metaphorically to mean "last act" but It has a rather complicated meaning
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A7%E5%96%9C%E5%88%A9

>>141064586
He temporarily suspended his channel over an issue with what I assume was ad revenue. According to him, Google was withholding "thousands of dollars" from him and he was suspending his channel until the issue was solved.

I guess he got his shekels since his channel is back now.

>>141064985
yes because you will find ように by searching for よう

>>141064797
Thanks. To be honest, I was considering just taking it cause I had nothing to do over the summer, but your probably right, so I dropped the classes.

I'm probably going to try doing it over the summer again.

>>141064797
Kanji study is useless

>>141065251
>I'm fluent speaking (I'm half japanese)

>>141065359
Cool joke, but I didn't imply I was a gook

>>141065251
what about JLPT

>>141065390
It's good but only if N4-N1

>>141065227
>>141064797
Wouldn't RTK be useless if he is half japanese and fluent in Japanese?

I think he should go to a Kinokuniya and just buy a Japanese kanji book meant for young kids

>>141065438
RTK and kanji study is useless

>>141065454
If I wanted to only become fluent speaking-wise and didn't care about writing, what should I do then? I can speak fluently so grammar flows naturally to me.

I tried to do the immersion method with reading manga, but I found that because I'm fluent in speaking, I never learned anything because I could just guess what the kanji meant without actually learning anything.

>>141065507
Nope I'm telling it's useless kanji study and handwritting are useless, kanji study is useless that has been confirmed many times.

共和党の全国委員会の委員長は、トランプ氏が共和党の大統領候補に指名される見通しになったとして、１１月の本選挙に向けて党の結束を訴えました。

"The republican committee chair, trump has a unobstructed path to the presidential candidacy, facing the nov main election he will be 党の結束を訴えました"

What exactly is the 委員長 doing?

What is the proper term for 党の結束 and what is 訴えました in this context?

>>141065558
I would say it's using a double negative nominalizer to carry the meaning of 委員会.
The proper term form 党の結束 is 党の結束.
訴えました here means he is ready to start a war.

>>141065623
he's getting the support of the combined party? I dont know politics.

Isnt the 委員長 doing 指名 since it is passive?

>>141065658
>he's getting the support of the combined party?
I don't know much about politic either, but I think that's it.
>Isnt the 委員長 doing 指名 since it is passive?
No, that's just how you use it in Japanese.

>>141065438
Why? Mnemonics are useful for learning kanji, and he implied he wanted to write.

If he didn't care about writing I suppose he could just go through Core2k or something but he might as well learn tow rite since he's already learned hte language

>>141065702
but then waht is the 委員長 doing? He is the topic of the sentence therefore there must be a verb associated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6njwdQoEVOM
きたー！

What's the best show to enjoy some listening practice?

>>141065053
Nah, he just gave up like a bitch.

>Google could not resolve my issue. They are horrible. You will see nothing new from me until they change their ad sense country conversion policy.

>>141065558
The 委員長 did １１月の本選挙に向けて党の結束を訴えました

>訴える
2. to appeal to; to call for

>>141066042
It is a typical pro-drop nominalizer read about it DoJG. I'm pretty sure it's explained there.

>>141065532

>being able to read is useless

idgi

>>141065438
>Japanese kanji book meant for young kids
Those are inefficient as shit.

>>141066130
Kanji is literally useless, many people agree on this so would you just shut up please?
>>141066139
Any form of kanji study is pretty much ineffective.

Is there a way to hide the posts of anyone who has a tripcode that isn't whitelisted

>>141066276
Why are you so triggered by tripcodes?
>tripcode that isn't whitelisted
What's that?

>>141066299
I'm not, but it's convenient that these shitposters / this shitposter are/is using tripcodes now, because I can filter them.

But I want to whitelist tripcodes that I know aren't from the shitposter/s.

>>141066355
The tripcodes are pretty cool, I like them. They bring some new discussion to the table and help refresh the thread. I'll make one soon when I get home too, why filter them though?

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>mfw i thought 冊 meant counter for books as in a table counter
i cant learn japanese

>>141066404
Just use a little more cool memes and you will surely learn it.
Reminder: できる is not a verb.

>>141066447
>できる is not a verb.
Why would it be? The only "verb" part there is る. Do people really mislearn japanese that badly?

>>141066355
white list me and donest hesitate if you have any questions about japanese or japan generally im n5 certified

>>141066474
Exactly, some idiots here told me that it was a verb. The only verbs in Japanese are る、く、ぐ、む etc.

>>141066527
mfw people shitpost about this but it's actually true

Which one is correct to say the bus stop is over there. あそこにバス停があります or バス停があります。

>>141066548
What's true? That dekiru is a verb? It isn't.

>>141066557
あそこには大馬鹿があります

>>141066557
Both are actually, just look at them and you will realize the truth. バス停がいます is also a good way to say that.

ボクの肛門はバス停です

>>141066557
I mean one has a translation of "over there" in it and the other doesn't. But you might also want to consider バス停はあそこです

>>127794929
>I literally cannot imagine any other reasonable way to do it.

I used half-assed mnemonics in the beginning, but now I just look at them and brute-force them into the memory. I don't even care about radicals, I just recognize the shape of the whole kanji.

>>141066806
i wish i could get stalked anonymously

>>141066058
Just anime, any one will work since they are all pretty good art.
>>141066763
Can I park my バス in your バス停?

>>141066901
一方通行の通りだから入っちゃダメよ

>>141064364

I suspended all cloze notes to only do recognition. This process is basically what I do except I don't review example sentences after reading them the first time.

>>141067258
そうだなｗｗ
すれば、口に入るのはどう？口ー＞肛門は一方通行だよｗｗｗ

コテ付けて数回投稿しただけでこんなにミーハーが湧き上がってくるのか
印象しやすいやつらだな

>>141067579
そうだなあ

けどよ完全に消化されてもいいの

糞になっちゃうぞ

http://futalog.com/387411939.htm#387430982

Can someone tell me how to conjugate this verb? My dictionary doesn't recognize it.
谷川ながる

便壺を食べました。
>>141067828
うんちになるのはオレの最終目的でござる。ｗｗ

名土ちゃん大好きでございます。

>>141067927
Just conjugate the る, there is only one verb here and it's る.

>>141068070
おとなになったらいいうんちになりたいボクも

>>141068104
from what i can see theres actually no verbs

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I've been away for one or two months and why the fuck are there so many tripfags here.

Also, pic related makes me want to stop anking and try wanikani.

>>141067927
Are you sure it wasn't ながれる?

The mountain stream flows?

>>141068599
i thought it was ながめる

as in ボクのちんこを眺める

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>>141068552
It's just one retard samefagging. Check the trips in the archive, they all only have one post and those posts are all replies to other trips with only one post.

Report all the tripcodes you see for samefaggotry.

>>141068599
This is why you just ignore questions asked by dumb people who provide no context
>are you sure you didn't just fuck up in some way that's impossible to know for sure but would be obvious if you posted the whole sentence?

>>141068765
Honestly it's better than arguing over tripfaggots and how verb endings like る are somehow the only actual verbs in the language.

>>141068552

>the explanation on how to read it is "you should just know it"

BRAVO

>>141068552
This thread is under ボクのコントロール
>>141068757
This. ｗｗｗ

>>141068757
yeah dude just check the archive

>>141068765
daily japan thread: ignore everyone

>>141068833
makes sense to me you either know shit or you dont dude

>>141068840
ボクのも

>>141068833
That's just the usual wanikani didactics, look at the example sentences.

>お父さんは元気ですか
>彼は元気そうに見えたが、昨夜自殺した

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It was worth it.

>>141068765
すみません

The full phrase is:
「涼宮ハルヒ」の谷川ながる

I think it's a recipe.

>>141069135
looks like a name to me you silly silly man

>>141069129
What was worth what?

まず、先日発表された「燃料の入れ間違いによる救援要請」は、毎月実施しているものではないので、軽自動車への軽油の入れ間違え事案が増加しているかどうかはわからない旨を説明してもらった。

”Firstly, the "vehicle appeal due to wrong fuel" announced a few days ago is not done every month so basically whether the incidents of disel being put in cars is on the rise is unknown, as explained to me"

Is this「燃料の入れ間違いによる救援要請」a study or a announcement? It seems more like statistics than a appeal but 要請 means appeal apparently.

>>141069129
Fuck yeah so much flashcards, that's クール.

>>141069135
ザ・Mのコーラ・オブ・ハムバーガーヒ・スーパーサイズ宮

>>141069129
Your surprise box almost knocked me off my chair

>>141069386
Skipping a day of new cards, and going back to original number the next. It made today so much easier, and took about half as long as usual too.

>>141069492
I can imagine.

>>141069406
dude i support questions and all but did you ever consider that maybe you're reading stuff above your level?

>>141069406
I don't see any cute girls in this sentence. What anime is this from? Have you tried comparing it to the english sub translation?

>>141069535
How many new cards were you doing before?

>>141069580
are you going to help or not

>>141069694
Well if you force me to choose one I suppose the answer is no.

>>141069656
Just 20. But taking a day off from overloading my brain, and just reviewing what I already knew, really helped speed up my process of learning new material the next day.

It's an argument against cramming, which of course is simple at this point, but this thread loves to occasionally circlejerk over spending three hours learning 70 new cards for the day.

Thanks livejournal.

>>141069737
D :

>>141069766
You should really learn to look beyond a single definition in rikai though. If a word is given several similar definitions it is because none of them are 100% accurate and the japanese word is some sort of combination of all those english defintiions.

>>141069751
>20 cards per day
Haha you're going pretty fast there bro

>>141069813
I did look, I may just be bad at choosing.

>>141069751
I do 60 cards and it takes 30-35 mins at most to complete my reviews. Step up your game lol

>>141069886
Whether you're doing production or recognition can make a difference, man.

>>141069852
If you think I was telling you to "choose" maybe you should reread my post

I have been learning kanji slowly over the time with 2k core deck, a friend of mine recommended me the kanji damage deck for anki, which despite making sense radical wise can't seem to stick to my brain.

Should i insist on using the kanjidamage deck, or would getting through the 2k core one eventually suffice?. Anyone had a similar experience?.

>>141069406
I guess it's some kind of a report

>>141069929
Yeah man kanji study is totally useless don't even try it.

>>141066058
seiyuu radios

>>141069916
I don't do production cards for vocab, you would have to be pretty stupid to do that.

>>141069966
I was talking about the decks, i have no problem learning from the 2k one.

Read properly.

>>141070001
You are an idiot. Read this properly - Kanji study is useless.

>>141069580
honestly there's nothing grammatically intense here. a few big words and this is what happens?

>>141070001
>learning
>anki
You might want to rethink your world view.

>>141069994
Because you hate nuance and have no reason to actually learn the language beyond porn games?

I mean, please, sell me on recognition, I just don't see the purpose. It's easy gratification, just a few steps above feeling like you know kanji because you can laugh at wanikani examples.

>>141070082
I'd appreciate if you could describe whatever you mean by that.

Is it that using anki a bad learning method?.

>>141070099
What the fuck are you even talking about? I'm talking about vocab decks, not kanji.
Or you think production cards for vocab are a good idea? I see, anime has completely destroyed your brain.

>>141070126
Reviewing flashcards isn't learning.

>>141070059
It doesn't matter if you know all the grammar if you don't know any of the words.

>>141070099
You learn nuance by seeing the word in many different contexts. Unless you are an advanced learner and can put J-J definitions on your cards you aren't getting very good nuance anyway.

>>141070147
Production cards for vocab are the only good idea; what the fuck else would you do production for, sentences with so many possible ways of being said that you'd likely never be "correct"?

>>141070199
it doesnt matter if you know all of the words if you dont know any of the grammar

>>141070199
what do you suppose rikaichan is for? sure there are words that have nuanced meaning or are context dependent in terms of meaning, but how do you suppose you learn context otherwise?

>>141070191
I'd normally agree, but what little i read im managing to identify the kanji i come across.

How do you review flashcards? If i fail one i don't just go "oh well", i try again until it sticks.

>>141070212
Having English on the front is certainly a good idea. Because every English word has a corresponding word in Japanese. And it doesn't increase the time you are wasting on doing anki.
I see, I will make some production cards right now, thanks.

>>141070256
>what little i read
Here's your major concern right now, not wasting your time on placebo.
>How do you review flashcards?
I don't, I have a fully functioning brain.

>>141070242
You read things where you know enough of the words that you aren't completely lost on the words you don't know.

If there is a sentence with only a single word you don't know, and you know all the grammar, you should really be able to at least understand that one word with the help of rikai chan

>>141070264
Right, so when are production decks useful exactly?

Or, like I said, is just understanding the gist of a sentence enough for you? I'm sure nuance will come in time with enough compelling content like Love Live and seiyuu radio shows.

>>141069751
>this thread loves to occasionally circlejerk over spending three hours learning 70 new cards for the day.
I learned the hard way not to do that during my first serious attempt at learning Japanese (I made a few brief attempts before it, but never got anywhere during those because I didn't have any idea what I was supposed to be doing, what resources to use and so on).

I started off doing 100 cards a day of the Core 6K deck, and by the end of the first week I was failing almost 50% of my cards and spending ~3 hours a day on reviews. It was fucking awful. I turned off new cards for a few days after realising my mistake, but by that point I was still swamped, as a complete beginner, with the amount of cards that someone going at the pace of 20 cards a day would've only accumulated after a month or so.

After a few days my reviews seemed to be getting back under control, so I enabled new cards again at a pace of 20 cards a day and managed to trudge on for another 2 months like that, but the damage was done. My retention rate was horrible (70%-75%) which just made my reviews slow, miserable and disheartening. In the end my willpower ran out and I gave up.

>>141070377
>so when are production decks useful exactly?
For learning how to write kanji.
How can you hope to understand the 'nuance' by having an English translation on the front? You learn the nuance by encountering a word in a lot different contexts, not by guessing the right word based on your English definition 500 times.
>compelling content like Love Live and seiyuu radio shows
I don't engage in using shitty memes and watching shitty content so I wouldn't know. But you should make some production decks for your favorite anime, I'm sure that will help you understand it better.

>>141070126
They are shitposters. Don't bother even replying to them.

If you are doing well with Core2k, just keep going. Some people need to do a kanji deck and some don't. If you start hitting a brick wall in Core, then maybe you need to study the kanji separately.

>>141070351
Never mind that check the rest of my sentences' translation please.>>141069406

I concede. Point taken.

>>141070514
Just remember to not listen to anyone with a differing viewpoint.

>>141070457
You'll never be Japanese. Every time you look at an apple, your brain will think "apple". But forcing yourself to recall "リンゴ" as soon as you see the word apple is definitely preferable to wasting time trying to think of what word in some shit example sentence must mean in English.

Unless you've somehow become so Japanese that no one even compliments you on how good you are at using chopsticks anymore, I mean.

>>141070516
People don't request help due to putting in the wrong type of fuel too often so it's hard to say whether that type of incident is on the rise or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMy57Z3A52o

>Steve hates SJWs

Nice to see that he doesn't turn into a complete dumbass when the topic turns to politics.

Of course, I don't think that I've ever seen an otherwise intelligent person who supports the SJWs. Closed-minded pseudo-intellectuals (which the social sciences are full of), sure. Politicians looking to earn a vote, sure. Businessmen looking to earn good guy points, sure. Professional victims, sure. But smart, good natured people expressing their honest political views? Never.

>>141070651
Not everyone has a useless monolingual brain like you do.
I guess it's pretty hard to live with such a disability, I'm sure production cards will help you overcome it, just keep trying.

>>141070651
what if i think ringo ironically first

>>141070738
You've probably just watched more anime than me, that's the only way you could have progressed so quickly.

post mindblows
>回
>around
>a round

>>141071142
It's not a mindblow, it's a "kekd pretty hard while reading このポスト"

>>141071142
neon genesis evangelion

>>141071142
ちんぽ
Chinpo
Chin po

>>141071215
>>>/a/

>>141070651

Don't try to tell people about the end result of the language learning process when you're still just a beginner yourself.

When your brain is really in a Japanese mode from lots of reading and listening, and a particular word or phrase has become so effortless to you that you can just spit it out at a nanosecond's notice, you'll sometimes find yourself thinking in Japanese rather than English.

I haven't really spoken Japanese to other people (unless you want to count typing), but I'll sometimes roleplay with myself or force myself to reorder my thoughts in Japanese. I find that this change is especially likely to happen around the time that I do that. For foreigners actually living in Japan (those who haven't secluded themselves in their gaijin communities, anyways), I'd imagine that this is the norm.

>>141071288
You are wrong, productions cards are the only way to learn words.

>>141071288
>Don't try to tell people about the end result of the language learning process
Are you so pedantic that you're really gonna say I was talking about the "end result of the language learning process"?

As if there even is an "end result", ever?

I am a foreigner living in Japan.

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if you love japanese and hate anime why don't you go to /jp/

>>141071374
I just released some 大小便, try to catch it with your 外人の口

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Is there any way to delete the data of a particular deck from an Anki profile? I've deleted the deck, but when I re-import it the stats from before are all still there.

>>141071481
Why don't you go there and stay there instead of making stupid posts?
Here, I'll even help you >>>/jp/

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>>141071526

thanks fella

>>141071537
You might wanna abstain from using your low quality anime pictures here, thanks. Now go here >>>/jp/

>>141071506
delete the notes

>>141071374
that doesnt mean you know shit though gaijin

all it means is you have all the resources every other pale fat whiteboy in this thread wishes they had so you better be making good use of them!!!

come see me in kawasaki southside im the guy with the white tshirt thats stained yellow not from sweat but from pollution

>>141071506
Delete Anki.

>>141071592
You mean delete all the cards from that deck?

If not, what do you mean by notes and where is the option to delete them?

>>141071755
Delete the deck and/or anki.

>>141071781
As I said, I did delete the deck but the stats didn't get deleted with it for some reason.

I can't delete Anki since I'll lose all my progress and stats from my other decks if I do.

>>141071755
>cards
No.

Delete the notes. The notes are the individual card data. Card templates can be shared between decks, notes cannot.

Deleting notes will automatically destroy the data's instantiated cards and their scheduling. If it doesn't, anki is restoring it from somewhere.

>>141071811
You should delete anki because it's a useless tool.

>>141071855
I don't understand what you mean by notes. I'm in the deck browser thing, but I can't see any mention of notes anywhere.

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>>141071933
Read the manual.

>>141071967
What anime is that from? Such high quality... I'm sure it has very good vocab.

>>141071967
I just did but I still don't understand where notes are or how to delete them.

>>141072103
If you knew what notes are you would instantly recognize where they are in the deck browser UI. If you don't know what notes are then you didn't read the manual properly.

>んんんんふむ
What does this mean? I can't get this at all, it's from an LN.

>>141072138
The manual seems to suggest that notes are just the information on the cards. I can't see how else I would get rid of these notes other than by deleting the cards as I mentioned in >>141071755

>>141072139
nnnnnggggggghum

>>141072159
You seem to have not read the anki manual properly. I recommend actually reading the anki manual properly and not just skimming it after ctrl+f-ing for a keyword.

>>141072164
Oh, that makes sense, arigatou. Which books should I read to understand this kind of artistic expression?

>>141072211
Lolita

>>141072196
I've read the entire Notes & Fields section several times over.

>>141072243
I didn't say to read the Notes & Fields section, I said to read the manual.

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>>141072256
You're kidding, right?

>>141072219
It's not Japanese though is it? I want some Japanese art (light novels, vns etc)

>>141072306
What makes you think I'm kidding? It's only ~30k words. You should be able to read that in about two hours.

>>141072361
time spent reading english is time not spent reading japanese

>>141072361
>What makes you think I'm kidding?
The fact that you expect me to waste 2 hours reading through a manual that is 99.9% completely irrelevant information just to solve a trivial issue.

And it turns out that even if I had read the whole manual, it wouldn't have solved my problem. After clicking around through the menus some more I found the notes and deleted them, but the stats are still there.

>>141072433
Time spent learning is time spent learning.
>>141072451
Did you then delete the deck and rebuild/optimize the database?

>>141072481
>Did you then delete the deck and rebuild/optimize the database?
I just tried it and the stats are still there.

>>141072519
Works for me senpai, try explaining exactly what you're doing so I can tell you where what you're doing differs from me.

>>141072519
Import the deck as txt, not as apkg.

What does まあちょっと！待ってー mean?

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i need to stop

>>141072631
1. Open Anki > Tools > Manage Note Types... > (select the notes from the deck in question) > Delete

2. Delete deck in question

3. Tools > Check Database... > (confirmation message about the database having been rebuilt and optimised)

4. Close Anki

5. Open Anki > File > Import... > (select deck)

>>141072697
Yeah, it's >>141072647
I assumed you were already importing the deck from plaintext because apkg files are used for backups, not removing previously existing information.

>>141072687
Fucking stop then, why did you post this you piece of shit?

>>141072747
I'm guessing there's no easy way of converting an .apkg to .txt.

I just CTRL+F'd through the manual for "txt" and came across this in the "Backups" section:
>Anki also logs deleted notes to a text file called deleted.txt in your profile folder. These notes are in a text format that can be read by File>Import, though please note the import feature only supports a single note type at one time, so if you have deleted notes from different note types, you’ll need to split the file into separate files for each note type first.

It sounds like, by blanking this file, I might be able to stop the import function from recovering my stats, but I'm a bit wary of trying it in case it fucks something up.

>>141072829
You convert an apkg to txt by importing the apkg then exporting it to txt.

>>141072851
which he would know about if he read the manual front to back WOAH

>>141072851
One problem - the deck contains media. Won't that be lost if I export it to txt?

>>141072914
Use your brain. Back up the media manually.

>>141072924
For hundreds upon hundreds of cards, then edit those hundreds upon hundreds of cards to individually restore the media to all of them...

>>141072978
Why would you have to edit the notes to restore the media? That's not how anki works. Read the manual.

I'm sitting here laughing pretty hard at all these stupid anki posts.

to be honest i cant believe people love anki so farking much

>>141073218
Why would you be surprised? People generally like things that make them feel like they know something.

>>141073158
>>141073218
>>141073253
How else are you supposed to memorise vocabulary? The only alternative is looking up the same words over and over in a dictionary until they eventually stick.

>>141073288
>responding to the autist

>>141073288
rosetta stone or some shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOkWppHIo_M#t=3m33

>>141073299
isnt this sort of hypocritical since its in response to a response to an "autist" lmao

>>141073288

Personally, I think Anki is for utter retards, this is because I, a true Japanese-learner (black belt, 5th-dan) can hear a word and from the formation of the lips know exactly what the kanji looks like as well as stroke order and all possible readings, all simply by watching anime. It must be hard to be a baka gaijin (that's stupid american, I know it's hard to follow)

>>141073357
>isnt this sort of hypocritical since its in response to a response to an "autist" lmao
more like telling him he's an idiot and to identify the autist properly

>>141073379
whoops

What I did today for learning Japanese: watched anime, did anki while shitting for maximum efficiency.

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I have come to a conclusion. Memorizing random word translations like 5000 core didn't help, but neither did trying to assimilate japanese by manga, because I dont read enough. But, what worked best for me, would be making my own cards with an example sentence, and seeing if I knew the meaning of it. Thats how I learned words in a faster rate of time looking back.

fish oil

>>141073499
Cool... That's certainly not a shit method I will incorporate it into my production cards

>>141073499
>I failed to learn X so I started over and tried learning X again and it worked
False beginner fallacy. All methods work, some people just need more time.

Someone explain to me anki graphics.

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>>141073499
the truth of the matter is if you didnt just learn the basics back in the 90s and then just watch anime every day until now to build vocabulary theres just no way to be at a high japanese level right now

you cant rush fluency

>>141073555
You CAN rush fluency. I don't see why anyone couldn't, with the necessary amount of practice and immersion into the language.

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>>141073517
>>141073520
>>141073555
fuck you fagheads. I just said I didn't read too much, and that this method was most successful for me judging by experience, and Ive been learning 1 year so far.

I think assimilating only works if you can spend 5 hours learning japanese everyday, and that using something like 10,000 core is a good supplement to it, because you see the words being repeated in the material.

>>141073637
Hey man I didn't want to rain on your parade I just see so many people giving arbitrary advice because it solved their problems but then I look and they knew more than a beginner when they started it so it doesn't work.

>>141073720
im only literally a man. Im figuratively an anime girl.

>>141073637
You are very deep and artistic.

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Has anyone on djt, ever read a sentence, didn't know what it meant, but then you looked up the words, and realized its very lewd and you awkwardly blushed a little?

>>141073637
look everyones gonna find their way to tokyo eventually and so will you so no worries

now if youll excuse me ＊サングラスつけられた＊ i have some anime to watch i mean studying to do

>>141073896
honestly you had me at ever read a sentence--no

>>141073896
No, I'm not a gay anime fag who is uncomfortable with sex.

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>妄想以外の幸せを見つけてしまった
"I've found happines beyond my delusions"?

>>141073896
>that face
Wow, do people really watch this? I don't even want to imagine what kind of sound was coming out of her mouth during this scene.

>>141073940
what do you think 以外 and しまう mean

>>141073928
I'm in 東京 right now where do I find you ブロ？My Japanese knowledge - １５万 hours of anime and ３０４部 manga.

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>>141064014
i want to get a job at xseed doing game localization/translation

>>141073993
im still trying to get to tokyo myself i crash landed in kawasaki southside

me and my friends all have sensitive skin and asthma due to the pollution but at least the government pays our hospital bills

>>141073940
I felt comforts unless a delusional dream.

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>>141064014

>>141074032
Did you get here by performing a HAHO jump from a ミリタリー航空機 too?

>>141074018
That's a good ミーム thanks man. I'll add this to my ankifu dekinai meme collection for crying out loud

>>141074198
anytime, きょうだい

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>>141074018
Have you been making sure your English is top notch; knowing every grammar rule and term in the book, and having a wide range of vocab? Also, reading a lot too?

Not that I'm a translator, but just what I was told about becoming one.

>>141074243
Naah I'll just use a google translator machine to correct my grammar/punctuation and all that useless stuff.

>>141074243
you can get by fine if youre just a good writer

rules dont matter if your words command power

>>141074243
you were lied to

>>141074288
I write anime fanfiction about robots and cute girls is that good enough?

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おはようおにいちゃん

きょうはいいことあった？きかせて

>>141074318
works for ixrec lmao

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>>141074259
>>141074288
>>141074292
>a bunch of plebs translating my chinese cartoons into broken English
Thanks for ruining my childhood guys.

>>141074349
マイちんぽイズレディー、じゃップ犬

>>141074243
no but what i've been told is that i'd need to primarily focus on achieving N1 proficiency

>>141074349
響け! ユーフォニアムを再び見てる
放送時に見たときはかなり聞き取りにくい部分もあったけど、今回は内容をほぼもれなく聞き取れてるんだから嬉しいよ
割と簡単な内容だとはわかっていても

>>141074395
I think your father had more to do with it than us, he didn't stop you from watching anime.

>>141074349
隣さんの犬が車にはねられて正直ざまぁって思ってる

>>141074349
ボクはねやっと童貞捨てられたよ

マジでよかった

>>141073952
Female? Or just gay?

>>141074395
youre welcome こころちゃん

We need to create a lot of 核兵器 and use them on 日本国 as 腹癒せ for birthing anime into this world.

>>141074509
i would not have been able to read the entirety of this post without google translate

lets all take a moment and thank google for making our lives what they are today

>>141074535
thank you steve jobs

>>141074509
I'm with you, ボス！

>>141074509
It's like the opposite of those stereotypical American characters in anime that only speaks a couple of words in English in every sentence.

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Okay, Ive been triggered too much. Of course your English has to be an elite level. Why would a company hire you if your English is as good as the average nipponjin? As a matter of fact, why should they hire you if your English is just average? Anyway, Ive only considered being a translator for a month or so of my life, but the first thing I did was learn all the grammar rules and vocab. Learn how to identify every part of the sentence: the preposition, verb type, subject, etc. Next, would be able to correct sentences. This is hard to get material for, and the only thing I had to study was the grammar section of the SAT. Because, if you look up example sentences with errors online, its a bunch of beginner ESL-level mistakes. So, the SAT grammar section was the hardest ones I could find. Next would be studying vocab, which i think the best way is through ankii, desu. Learning to write effectively is important, and really puts your grammar rules to the test. Can you write academic level shit? Idk how, but look into sentence expansion, because that trains you to write more clear. After that, just read read read. read a bunch of English, and lots of japanese.

Don't be a casual about it you fucking weeb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDYgwqsHnRA

>>141074606
>that youtube link
woops, meant to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvgUAzezuek

>>141074621
it was better with the bullshit link

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>>141074606
Cool post *gives 金*

>>141074606
its with that left brained mindset that boring translations are born

stick to instruction manuals or transcripts or something

>>141074600
also known as バンの回避ｗｗｗｗ

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>>141074475
言うな

>>141074766
Such detail, I want to watch this.

How good is Genki learning? I can read Hiragana and Katakana but have no vocabulary.

>>141074962
It's very good.

>>141074962
genki is mostly grammar

>「いい加減、素直になった方がいいんじゃない？」
I have never understood what いい加減 means. Any help?

>>141074983
>>141074993
So I should go for it?

>>141075006
Tae Kim is better in my opinion, but you're welcome to try whichever one you want.

>>141074962
It's very much a classroom textbook, and thus shit for self study. Use Tae Kim instead.

>>141074606
"Just do ほにゃらら already"

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>>141075006
genki is too mainstream for my tastes. Try tae kim, or just reading example sentences directly on tangorin.

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/JLPT_Guide/JLPT_N5_Grammar

>>141075049
Meant to quote
>>141075005

>>141075057
Don't use genki if you are a sophisticated artistic nihilistic mind like this guy.

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>>141074962

>>141075091
Keep scratching that door knob.

>>141075198
That's too mainstream for my taste.

>>141075181
If you want to get pedantic, the "you can say the following even if you had not actively asked for assistance" part is wrong too, it should be "you COULD say the following even if you had not..." or "you can say the following even if you HAVE not..."

>>141075198
frankly im scratching my balls thats about it

What other programs like anki are there? Anki is too mainstream for my taste.

>>141075460
Rosetta Stone

>>141075488
That's not nihilistic enough and it's also pretty mainstream. Anything else?

>>141075460
ive got something to fit your taste right here

*unzips dick*

>>141075460
http://houhou-srs.com/

僕は虚無主義者や無政府主義者や無神論者や過激の左翼者や懐疑主義者やアンチ主流や美術家やグレイト思想家でございます。
『フェドラハットを傾けた』

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>>141075543
>this butthurt
Listen up pleb. genki is literally what every beginner japanese class uses, and japanese classes are slow af. Also, there comes a point in japanese learning, where you have to learn stuff via just reading the source material, and no textbook can help.

Literally, all of what genki teaches you is summarized in these two links
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/JLPT_Guide/JLPT_N5_Grammar
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/JLPT_Guide/JLPT_N4_Grammar

So no need to toss around your buzzwords here; thinking a bunch of random 25 year olds on an imageboard are going to view you as hot shit.

>>141075631
Uh... Nope?
>>141075636
That's kind of mainstream, but I'll check it out.
>>141075667
Why are you talking about genki? I think you are just another member of the unenlightened herd. Do you know about postmodernistic nihilism? I recommend you read up on it before making stupid posts.

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>>141075667
个Upvoted this man, I also dislike mainstream stuff.个

I did the first 15 test for N1 kanji here.
http://japanesetest4you.com/category/jlpt-n1/jlpt-n1-kanji-test/

Overall got around 90% correct. How does that bode for my possibilities of passing N1?

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>>141075005
>い↑いかげん
の発音は、ほめる時に使うよ

>いいか↑げ↑ん
の発音は、すごく悪いって指摘するときにつかうよ

このぶんみゃくだと、すごく悪いの意味だよ

発音が違うと逆の意味になるから
発音にきをつけてねおにいちゃん

>>141075924
You should do a different test, this one is too mainstream.

>>141075667
考えてから言ってください

this epic burn sponsored by n5 grammar

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If you can't solve this problem, then you don't know japanese

>>141076178
I'm sure it will come up someday in my N4/N5 grammar and anime, oh, and I also do vocab production cards.

>>141076178
I think the problem is you have anti-aliasing turned off.

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>>141076226
>>141076302
all wrong. watch more anime

when i know all of core 2k/6k, will i be able to read yotsuba?

>>141076372
Yes. If you are aiming for comfy-level reading, it should be enough. But you should read how a lot of these words are used in a sentence first. Also don't be surprised if an occasional obscure word pops up here and there.

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>>141076178
What the fuck is wrong with your font rendering? How can you even stand to read that?

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>>141076750
About 4 years ago, I read a pasta on /b/ about boosting your comp's performance, and it said turning anti-aliasing off improves saves energy. Get on my level.

>>141076643
thx, im not aiming to read it without having to look up things yet but right now its almost impossible for me to make sense of most sentences even with looking up every word on jisho. maybe when im done with the core deck i will get it eventually.

>>141076847
If you can't make sense of things despite looking up the words then you're lacking grammar, not vocab. Start the DoJG deck if you haven't already.

>>141076831
>I read a pasta on /b/
Yeah, because those are so trustworthy, right? Did you also follow the one about making crystals by mixing ammonia with bleach?

>turning anti-aliasing off improves saves energy
Maybe if you're using a computer from the fucking 1970s.

The irony is that you're probably using Windows which is a massive resource-hog compared to pretty much every other OS in existence.

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>>141076968
is it fixed? if not, I forgot how, and 手伝いあげてください

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>>141077139
Looks like it's still off to me. I don't use Windows so I can't really help, sorry.

There should be some option in the control panel for it. It'll probably be in a section called "Appearance" or something like that.

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>started doing RTK alongside my core reps
>teaches uncommon words right off the bat
>shows the enlish meaning first and you have to get the kanji as an answer
>giant fucking format designed for old or legaly blind people means I have to scroll down on every card even when its fullscreen

God damn. I guess I have no choice but to keep going, though.

>>141077258
>falling for the rtk is useful meme meme meme

>>141077258
so edit the styling?

>>141076906
can i change the DoJG cloze default to black bg and white text without fucking up the images

or are the images not really required

>>141077258
Kanji study is useless lol

>>141077209
Yeah, I tried that, but still im still looking. Thanks

What is the best textbook know to mankind? Genki and Tae Kim are a little too mainstream for my tastes.

>>141077879
Try Genkim or Taeki

>>141077209
>I don't use Windows
Oh, seems like we have another nihilist here.

>>141077899
Those look very underground, the nihilist likes that muahaha (evil laugh).

first off, when did some of you start skipping days? not counting days you were forced to.
I'm well into my 5th or 6th i think. and i think i'm doing pretty good.
should i do more than 20 each day?
is there a better or similar way for grammar?
whenever i had free time, i just made a custom study to review everything i went through so far.
i also added decks for hiragana adn katakana.
so far i can say only nu and me in hiragana give me problems, as for katakana i still have some problems here and there.
added a deck for the SATs. just to improve my vocab count.
its taking me an hour everyday to finish everything.
and about the tae kim grammar, has someone made a "cheat sheet" of the sorts, where the rules are the only thing there?
i've started reading tae kim on 3rd day, and read only to the past tense and negative past for the verb.
how should i go on about going through tae kim?
what i'm doing now is just reading through it. but i have no efficient way to revise anything in it at all.

would love any kind of help i get, and also please answer atleast the first. i'm going strong now, but i don't know whether i'll keep my enthusiasm for long.
and no i'm not going to stop now because i started doubting myself.
i also got duolingo and started french and german.

>>141078029
i would say yes

>>141078090
really?
so when will it be? can we do it on the 30th of may?

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いっしょにねよ

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>>141077902
No, I just find it objectionable to use an operating system that I know it is purpose-made to spy on me.

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朝日
期日

JUST

>>141078231
>>141078262

whoever 'upgraded' to windows 10 is a moron

>I tell the parts I like to my friends.
>好きなパートお友達と伝えます。
Is this shit right? Please help me.

>>141078329
>he thinks he's safe on older versions
Windows 10 is just when they started being honest. Microsoft joined the NSA's PRISM program in 2007.

>>141078329
It is the best windows version, and the upgrade was even free. You can't escape the spying even on 8 or 7, and XP or earlier is obviously not an option. Other than win 10, the only reasonable options are linux or mac, IMO whoever stays on outdated OSes are the morons

>>141078354
assuming you're correct and they can get through my firewall, even with all but time sync blocked

the amount of information they'd be receiving would be so massive it would be flatly impossible to observe on an individual basis.. at most, they run a keyword search program to trigger for an actual human to investigate further

>>141078408
found the moron

>>141078158
i would say yes

>>141078231
>>141078262
So a bunch of meme pictures is proof that Windows is shit? As expected of a nihilistic meme OS user.

>>141078451
>found the moron

Enjoy the objectively worse OS then

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>>141078451
>the amount of information they'd be receiving would be so massive it would be flatly impossible to observe on an individual basis.. at most, they run a keyword search program to trigger for an actual human to investigate further
The very fact that they are collecting information about me without my consent is objectionable enough to me that I will not use their software for everyday tasks. I have a partition with Windows 7 installed solely for video games and VNs. Other than when I am playing/reading those, I never use it.

>>141078466
>meme OS
That's anime OS to you.

>>141078517
Windows 7 is far better than the tablet-optimised shit that came after it if you're on a desktop.

>>141078538
>Windows 7 is far better than the tablet-optimised shit that came after it if you're on a desktop.

You can say that as much as you want but it doesn't make it true.

>>141078538
Nice deflection. Got anything else besides pictures with inspirational quotes?

>>141078517
>windows 7
>objectively worse

hey feel free to stop posting anytime

>>141078029
atleast tell me where i fucked up, and what made me on the ignore list of most you.

>>141078583
your post is a wall of text with a billion questions, too much effort needed to parse it to form a response

>>141078564
>inspirational quotes
I don't think quotes of Microsoft policy are particularly inspirational.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/preview-privacy-statement

>>141078583
>>141078625
and they're also retarded questions

>>141078538
I use arch too :D It's such a cool OS btw I do everything through the terminal, I'm even writing this using terminal commands (I'm a pro open source programmer)

>>141078639
All I have to say to this -
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety xD"
-Nihilistic Arch user 2016

>>141078648
>>141078625
got it,
When did or how frequent did you guys skip days if you skip any or like to talk about it?
and what other deck do you recommend outside guide in the OP?
is there a taekim or grammar cheat sheet?
apologies for being retarded.

>>141078734
No Nope and Not necessary

what's the difference between akeru (open, unlock)
and hiraku (open)
開ける　and 　開く

>>141078649
I pretty much never open the terminal except to check for updates. Nice meme though.

>>141078687
As I've said many times already, it's nothing to do with liberty, I just won't use something which I know is designed to spy on me.