Koutetsujou no Kabaneri

Maybe the mission that Mumei talked is about a cure?

Because the solution to their problem is either killing ALL kabane or making a vaccine.

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cute

>>140866301
I doubt that, especially in the span of one cour.

Ayame is concerned with the preservation of her subjects after her station fell, so getting them to her Uncle's station.

Ikoma wants to mass produce his weapons, so people have a fighting chance and to educate people that the virus isn't a death sentence so long as you manage to stop it before the brain.

Mumei is a mystery at this point, we'll have to wait and see who her brother is.

>>140866301
No way they can just make a vaccine, especially given their tech. The only way this can end in good way is if the American continent is untouched by the Kabane.

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This is your threadly reminder that Kabaneris are NOT for the sexual.

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>>140869434
Eh, I don't care about the Kabaneri. Always was a fan of hime so sexualize the Kabaneri for all I care.

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>>140869504

I mean it anon, cease any manner of lewd thoughts and/or revelry featuring Mumei and/or Ikoma immediately

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>>140869674
Whatever you say, m8.

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Pixiv is turning out to be a real treasure trove of Habanero fanart after the latest episode.

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>>140870082
Mumei's hogging most of it though

>>140869434
>>140869929
Did she give herself a quick haircut, or is it just tied back in some inscrutably clever way?

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>>140870352
This might be too spicy.

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Pile driver or projectile weapon?

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>>140870605

Is it?

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I wonder if him and Yukina will be self-contained in their own group for most of the story.

It doesn't seem like he knows Takumi or Fujika.

Interesting he's shown as a combatant with pistols in the OP.

>>140870675
I don't see where he can possibly put a projectile on that weapon. I mean, it looks like the back-end of a larger weapon and he's suppose to put in a barrel and an ammo loading system in front of the pile-driver or something.

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sexy habanero thread?

>>140870834
you can literally see the bullet come out of the habanero's back in that webm+ the bullet hole on the cloth

>>140870739
I want to commit a crime.

I wonder why people are getting bent out of shape by Mumei acting superior, arrogant, and not giving a fuck?

Let's be honest here, /a/. If you were literally superhuman to the same degree she is and some giant cockbag samurai said he was going to push your shit in because muh kabane... I can't even imagine the shitfest that would happen. Hell, I would be shocked if /a/ let anyone other than cute girls and kids live.

Mumei has been remarkably restrained considering the fact that she is basically homo sapiens superior and the people were literally saying they were going to kill her.

>>140871277
No you wouldn't. No matter how hot she is, she's not worth it.

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Why is Ikoma so cute

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kabaneri plot is literally a ripoff of SnK movie. Onii chan incoming

>>140871697
yeah but it's not complete shit

>>140871014
That's just fragments of the shattered kabane's heart

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>>140871655

He's pretty moe for a hot-blooded mc.

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me on the right

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>>140871697

Is that a younger version of Prince geared up to fight titans?

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This is true villain of the story.

This episode saved Mumei. I thought last episode was setting her up to be just le cute smug Mary Sue that I'm somehow supposed to like, but she's actually a borderline evil little bitch, and now things make sense

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>>140872017
>Literally Kai
>villain
>not bestest bro
watch more anime

Kongokaku squad lead by Biba/anisama are the main villians, Mumei will defect once she realizes their true intentions and join best boy Ikoma.

>Hey guys we only have one cour, you think we should use it to develop our cast at all?

>nah, more scenes of jap mobs being irrational and scared please

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>>140869020
Kajika is an angel

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Best

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>>140872148
Oh I see it, the scene with
>>140872856

>>140872548
>implying Ikoma, Mumei and Ayame didn't get copious amounts of development

Even Kajika and Kurusu got some. All the scared mob scenes lasted two minutes at best, combined

>>140871655
I really don't like his hair.

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How do they get back on the main railway from this?

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I hope these two have some mad fights later.

I was pretty impressed with Kurusu deflected the ball from obstructing his gun.

>>140873030

You do know that trains can go in reverse, right?

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lords of the locker room - steampunk edition

>>140873030
Drive the train in reverse, then get back on track?

>>140873082
>>140873114
How do they control the tracks in the first place?

>>140873163

There's probably a switch along the road somewhere that's not pictured. For more info on trains:

>>>/n/

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>>140873163
Guessin' these?

>>140873030
Why are all the trees by the river dead? They must be kabane, quick chop them down!

>>140869434
Implying you're not going to fap at least 100 times to the mumei doujins that may come out.

The character development this episode felt very rushed in my opinion, along with being very infodumpish. Less natural, more "Well, here are the characters talking about their past at length and making dramatic actions! Be entertained!"

There should be more info on the train itself.
What guage is it running at
What type of steam loco it is, wheel arrangement does it have superheaters etc etc...

>>140873398
How the fuck are they going to keep going toward their destination now? They fucking turned around! That's not a loop, it's a split, they're headed right back for kabaneland.

>>140873335
>>140873398
Those tracks are unable to switch between a 90 degree angle. And the appears to be no additional structure to them. It simply doesn't appear they could get a single cart out.

>>140873625
Its magical train made of magical steel, running on magical steam, driving on magical tracks.

>>140873695
>Its Kabane train made of Kabane steel, running on Kabane steam, driving on Kabane tracks.
FTFM

>>140873672
Go backwards? Trains can do that you know...

>>140873790
it appears you've started an argument with a train autist, good luck my man

>>140869369
>the virus isn't a death sentence so long as you manage to stop it before the brain

The fact that they need blood-meals would create bigger problems if everyone who got bitten just became a Kabaneri.

>>140873790
Since it's such a short distance it's possible. Still, considering the engineers are all babby engis and backing up on tight turns like that can be dangerous, it seems like asking for trouble.

>>140873625
Nigga this is not Maitetsu to have such specific data

I'm not a fan of zombie fiction, does this show fall into the usual zombie stuff or is there something more to it?

>>140869929
>>140870352
>>140870739
I swear i'm a normal person, but I want to fuck this twelve years old girl.

>>140873672
For that matter, what would a train running the rails in the other direction do? You can't tell me that all rails in kabaneverse are unidirectional, that's insane.

>>140871697
>Mikasa is supposed to be one of very, very few Asians in the city
>so much so that people come to try to kidnap her and her mom to sell into sex slavery for mad cash
>casts Eren as a Jap anyways because fuck logic

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That does raise an interesting question.

Are Mumei and Ikoma contagious?

Imagine if it's sexually transmitted.

Suffering.

>>140873625
The answer to all that is huge

>>140874074

Just have them have sex with each other to make baby habaneros

>>140873916
She said blood, not cut open someone's neck and suck on the carotid artery. I can't believe everyone reacted like that when the sensible thing to do would have been think, "Oh, she needs blood and is clearly not hostile, let's all just donate a little."

>>140874124

Are you implying half the population needing blood from the other half on a daily bases is not going to cause problems?

>>140874124
I think being a little freaked out by that request is understandable.

>>140874197
Why are you suggesting half the population are kabaneri when we have seen two?

>>140874124
I am sure the Mumei doujin will have a peaceful solution to that scene

>>140873625
You'd need like a three episode infodump just to satisfy your nerd cravings. They might release some supplementary info after the show is over, but I highly doubt they're going to go into much detail beyond "it's an armored steam train".

>>140874023
It throws a few curveballs. Spoilers below:

>the kabane exhibit a level of intelligence, to the point that they can drive a train, trick humans, and use ambushes and misdirection
>they get pissed when one of them is killed, showing some sort of empathy or group think in action
>although they sometimes shamble they are very much capable of sprinting, climbing, tearing stee, and jumping
>The kabane don't eat people, they usually just bite them and leave them mostly intact to turn
>the kabaneri (what Ikoma, the MC, and Mumei are) are half zombies, but since they need to feed on human blood it seems more like some kind of vampirism than zombies

It definitely changes the formula enough to stop this from being some shitty stock zombie movie. There's only three episodes out, give them a shot and see if you like it. I think it's definitely worth trying.

>>140874236
There is a difference between a little freaked out and throwing rocks at someone who is clearly at least currently friendly and was playing with your kids seconds prior.

>>140874124
>implying ignorant, superstitious peasants that pray to a bonfire will have the critical thought capacity to do that

>>140874257
Well no, but that's my point. Whenever anyone gets bitten they just turn, but if everyone who gets bitten becomes a kabaneri then their numbers are going to rise fast.

>>140874107
Is that really how babby habaneros are made?

>>140874343
True. I had forgotten that paying to invisible omnipresent gods is what designates a civilized society. Bonfires and burning bushes are nearly prehistoric.

>>140874236
Why? Women in such age freebled all the time. There's no issue besides them being prude, which makes no sense given the circumstances.

>>140869434

Can Kabane be sexually transferred?
I assume kabaneri can infect people.
Either way I'd take one for the team

>>140874376
Yeah. If they go around biting people rather than asking them to bleed into a cup and drinking that. When was the last time you went to a farm and drank directly from a cow's udders?

>>140874465

>still missing the point this hard

Donating a pint of blood won't hurt you, but what about when you have to do that every day?

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You wouldn't lie with your lord, would you?

I wouldn't dare, but I'll definitely fuck her retainer

>>140874381

Plant seed in mama habanero, wait a few months and BAM. Habaneros are made.

>>140874523
Mumei was riding the train earlier , surely they don't need blood everyday

>>140874413
You misunderstand me, I'm an Atheist, not some neo-Christian /pol/ shitposter, so I am not criticizing them for their particular brand of religious stupidity. But seriously, they thought that if they didn't stop the train in kabane infested territory to pray to a fire, their grandchildren wouldn't be able to pass to the after life. If it wasn't for the boiler breaking, they would have been totally fine risking all of their lives to do whatever voodoo feel good bullshit they wanted, regardless of consequences. That shows a remarkable depth of superstition and ignorance. Add to that that they think the Kabane condition is a magical curse and that their station was just mostly eaten by those very beings, and I can see how they would overreact to Mumei suddenly asking to drink their blood. Even your most educated, modern person would probably be very on edge and impulsive after a scenario like this. You take an uneducated peasant that thinks this is all magic and demons, and are you really surprised they flipped out? Come on.

So does this take place in the future or past?

>>140874578
You on the right

>>140874124

To be fair, she didn't ask for it in the most reasonable manner. She just said it couldn't be helped and reminded them she was half-kabane.

>>140874523
There's dozens, if not hundreds of people on the train, and only two kabaneri. Even if they needed to feed daily, most people could go months to a year between donations. It's totally manageable as long as a system was put in place. Considering how useful the kabaneri are, it would be in everybody's best interest to contribute.

>>140874578
>spot the main character

>>140874197
As opposed to 90% of the population turning into super violent killer zombies that infect with a scratch? It's probably a much better alternative, especially since if people started changing to kabaneri rather than kabane then they can start killing off the kabane and actually solve the issue rather than delay the inevitable.

>>140874658
Again you overestimate these simple folk's intelligence.

>>140874523
They literally just said the train was so packed full of people that they didn't even have food and water for them.

Fucking rotate that shit out. This is not rocket science.

>>140874606
Alternate past. I remember some anon posting something about this being a "normal" progression of history until a certain point, then the kabane and steampunk shit showed up.

>>140874692
I wasn't saying the peasants would be the ones accepting and implementing this, but rather Ayame and the bushi. The peasants may be too stupid for their own good, but I think at least some of the powers that be realize what's best. And since the bushi have guns and control the train, the plebs would fall in line pretty fast.

>>140874606
In near future. Kabane is a military project which goes out of control.

>>140874593
>>140874658

Read the comment string, my point is that one or two Kabaneri needing blood isn't an issue, but if everyone who gets bitten becomes a Kabaneri and the demand for blood exceeds what regular humans can produce it would become a problem.

is the character designer of the old macross doing this? cuz this animation looks strangely similar to his

>>140874645
>>140874600
True. It's obvious that Mumei either likes stirring shit or is way divorced from reality. Jaded and tired of this shit is a possibility too, if she is vastly older than she looks due to plot virus.

>>140874680
But if they increase in number to the point that there just isn't enough blood without killing people, some of them will kill people. Most people aren't so altruistic as to die so that others can live.

>>140874774
It's just the character design style of the 80s.

>>140874771
Oh, my bad. That's actually an interesting point, i the show was longer I'd love to see that fleshed out more. I saw a movie once where vampires take over the world and turn most of humanity, but the remaining humans are either in hiding or being severely overused for blood. The powers that be cut the blood to 20-30% purity in an attempt to stop starvation, but the society is on the verge of collapse due to a lack of human cattle to feed everyone. It was actually a really interesting look at the logical conclusion of these "vampires take over the world" scenarios.

>>140874799
I am leaning towards her being divorced from reality. It's been clear a few times that she says shit regardless of the consequences, and does literally whatever she wants. After the whole "the weak die, the strong live" comment, I think she really just doesn't give much of a fuck about any of the "weak" around her that couldn't even kill one kabane if they wanted to.

I'd prefer the old and jaded route though. I know it's kind of overused, but I have always loved it when stories do that. Also it would make the possibility of a canon relationship between her and Ikoma possible due to no worries about him fucking a twelve year old.

>>140874606
>>140874716
according to the summary on >MAL, it takes place somewhere in the middle of the industrial revolution.

>>140874716
There is already dissent among the bushmen spearheaded by that Kurisu retard. They are too dumb and/or indoctrinated to agree to voluntarily feed the zombie their blood. Maybe Ayame herself could get behind this, but her authority would only last for so long.

>>140870675
It's basically a supped up captive bolt pistol. I'm guessing instead of shooting a piece of metal it just shoots pressurized air though. He never puts anything in it to shoot and I'm pretty sure he's used it at range in episode 2.

>>140874962

Her communication problems could be attributed to her being a child rather than old and jaded.

>>140874903
As opposed to turning into kabane that kills and infect people? If they can have a fighting force of kabaneri, then the fighting can be relegated to them and less people will get infected in the first place and solve the issue and "50% of the people" won't be infected in the first place. You're assuming all the kabaneri will just sit on their ass and demand blood all day doing nothing and not be a substantial work and fighting force.

>>140874997
That's true. Cunt Samurai is a complete reactionary tard, and Ayame is mostly a milquetoast decoration so I guess my idea wouldn't work here. Maybe if her father was still alive he could enforce it through strength of will, but she isn't there yet.

After this whole stabbing thing with Ikoma though, I'm hoping she's starting to harden the fuck up.

>>140875032
He mentioned metal steam in the HorribleSubs release I watched, so I think there's some sort of metal in there.

>>140875049
Yeah, I remember an anon mentioning that yesterday or the day before. He said she's developmentally stunted due to being badass as hell, and can't really communicate well as a result of her superiority complex.

But she seemed to communicate ok with her priest bro and Ikoma before he went full kabaneri, so I don't know how much value to put in that.

>>140874962

Daybreakers, it had a great concept but it was let down a little by the forced action. Same as that film with the time=currency thing. Actually that's what happened with Tokyo Ghoul, at first it was great with the focus on people who's survival depends on other people dying, then it turned into a generic action shounen.

>>140874962
The audience wouldn't like a character that doesn't give much fuck about any of the weak. History has proven that people like competent characters that begrugingly help the weak despite pretending they don't care about them. Something along the lines of a condescending "shouganai, I guess I have to save your asses again."
I bet that's what Mumei will turn out to be.

>>140875155

She had her serious moments in episode 1, but it doesn't necessarily mean she can communicate in a way that builds trust.

>>140875066
BUT THE LAW THO

>>140875155
Being fair here, she knew the priest at least somewhat and familiarity breaks a shield of contempt. As for Ikoma? I got the impression she saw him in the same way a kid sees a particularly interesting bug.

>>140874962
I was wondering when Daybreakers would be mentioned

I liked that movie, cheesy as it was

>>140874799
You guys are forgetting that she did try to ease the blow. She spent a bunch of time actively playing with those kids in an attempt to show them that she doesn't mean any harm. If she really didn't give a fuck she would have just stormed in there demanding blood.

She's probably had to deal with this kind of reaction for years and realizes the best way is to just be blunt when actually asking. Plus, she doesn't seem to be ashamed about what she is or what she needs.

>>140874292
>>the kabane exhibit a level of intelligence, to the point that they can drive a train, trick humans, and use ambushes and misdirection

:^)

>>140875200
>Daybreakers

Thanks man, I saw it on the SciFi channel and thought it was a really neat movie, especially since it was the Scifi channel and all. The time=currency movie was In Time I am fairly sure, which was another great idea as you say. The executions of both left something to be desired, but I really appreciate new ideas even if they aren't done well, so I still really enjoyed both. The same goes for that Limitless movie from a few years back about the drugs that made you super smart, but ended up fucking you up in the long term.

I am thoroughly convinced that most stories would be much, much better by playing the initial concept straight rather than trying to add a "twist" or introduce new elements to make it excited (ie unnecessary action that detracts from the interesting points). Too bad most creators don't agree with me.

>>140872672
>>140869020
She dies in the novels though.

>>140875371
There is also the whole thing where we don't know when the last time she "ate" was. Now, I don't actually give the writers this much credit, but if she was very hungry after lots of 'exercise' of kabane killing... well, I know I can get pretty shitty to people when I haven't eaten all day. Even if it's not being shitty, your mind doesn't work as well when you are super hungry.

>>140875227
>I bet that's what Mumei will turn out to be.

Didn't she already do that with the whole "I didn't help those people, they just happened to follow me" shtick? And before she cleared the Kabaneri to help them, her preamble was mocking them for taking too long to decide. So far she totally embodies the "I hate the weak but help them anyways" cliche.

>>140875235
True. I didn't say the idea was wrong, I just find it hard to buy into it entirely like some guys have. I need more episodes to make a proper judgement.

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>Has to fight till the point of collapse
>Ikoma ends up feeding her

This needs to happen.

>>140875604

Feeding her kabaneri jizz.

>>140875514

what novel

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>>140875813

Kabane ja nai

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>>140874962
Neither old and jaded nor divorced from reality, just doesn't give a fuck. From a Darwinist point of view she is the only worthy being on the train. She has been raised in an environment where might make it right, where people die because they are weak, and she knows she's the biggest mama cat on the train.

She's not old enough to be jaded, but she is not divorced from reality. Indeed, she sees reality exactly like it really is.

When she says that people are ignorant weakling, they are. When she says weak die in this world, they do. When she says there is nothing the samurai could do to stop her, it's true. Yes, she is blunt, but such is truth.

>>140875847
That's something a Kabane would say.

>>140875850

>Social Darwanism

>>140875155
She can't communicate with humans because she is half-zombie, outsider. It is really so hard to understand? People treat her like bakemono anyway, if she try be nice she will just be bullied.

>>140875435
I don't understand what part of that required a meme smiley.

>>140875850
In my opinion Social Darwinism is completely fucking illogical and retarded due to there being no evolutionary pressures in society, so using that to justify Mumei's behavior seems kind of dumb to me. I get where you are coming from in a base "me strong, you weak" type mindset, but she's clearly seen these "weak" people willingly throw themselves to the kabane to but the others time. They may lack the power to make their wills to protect manifest, but true strength goes far beyond raw killing power. There's a reason humans are one of the weaker species in terms of size to strength ratios, yet still rule the planet and are over 7 billion strong. It's NOT because we were able to bludgeon the other animals into submission.

At no point here has Mumei actually been tested in a deadly situation. Every time she's faced the kabane, there was never any danger for her to actually die. Even if she was bitten, there's no danger of turning. That's not strength, she couldn't lose even if she tried due to her own biology, so it's the equivalent of a boxing match for her.

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>>140872981
>>140872148
>it's Mumei meets the children, the episode

>>140875514
The novels aren't even out.

>>140875877
But Kabanes cant talk

We need more Mumei feet shots.

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those hips. absolutely read for child-bearing

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Memei r34 with glowing clitoris when?

>>140876189

12 YEARS OLD!

TWELVE!

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>>140876020
>In my opinion Social Darwinism is completely fucking illogical and retarded due to there being no evolutionary pressures in society

Does this look like the face of no evolutionary pressures to you?

Geez. Some people are thick.

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>>140876248

Anon, this is not the body of a 12 year old.

>>140876248
>draw seventeen year old girl
>call her twelve

Any red blooded man wants to sow his oats in Mumei's fertile fields.

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Interesting we now they have a dedicated kabane research group.

I'm really curious to see if the anime will answer the origin of the virus.

Do you think it was discovered unwittingly or perhaps even man made?

>>140876266
>implying kabane are normal organisms
>implying evolution can happen in twenty years
>implying you're not baiting me

I feel like I must remind you that Mumei is exepmt from evolution due to the simple fact of her being a sterile zombie freak.

>>140876561
>sterile
I won't believe you.

Spoiler-san can you post what happens eps 4? i saw you do it for 2&3 ....i cant handle the wait T_T

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Would you let this cute ninja half-zombie drink you blood?

>>140876626
Just make sure you actually spoiler it please, I don't want to know even if the wait is suffering.

>>140876649
I'd make her even if she didn't need to drink blood.

>>140876649
only if she asks nicely.

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>>140876748
like this?

>>140876585
That's how it usually goes. You can deny it, but time come you will have to face it. I can even predict the bullshit they'll invoke to explain it.
>kabaneri child gets infected in the womb and claws its way out during the last week of pregnancy

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Have they found what's in the basement yet

>>140876834
>that's usually how it goes
That doesn't mean anything here.

>>140876626
I'm not him but there's nothing to spoil anymore,pre screening ended in ep 3
If you want to know more just watch the previews

>>140876626
No one else has watched beyond episode 3, its all surprise material from here onwards

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>>140876944
>not naming it "the sheev"

ONE JOB.

>>140876944
They should all just become zombies. Looks like a blast

>>140875435
gotta agree with this one, the "driving a train/tricking humans" thing is coincidental, if a train is going full bore and everyone dies/gets infected it's gonna keep going until it hits something or runs out of fuel (chances are the first one, the conductor died while his arm was still caught in the pull loop on the train whistle, and they were all infected passing through another station on their way there, probably attacked like the other train was.

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>>140876933
>>140876920

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>>140876884
The basement is gone, it's all kabane now.

>>140876944
I prefer my webm and its name.

>>140877184
But, this isn't a horse carriage where they horses will walk without any input, this requires a significant degree of cooperation and effort to keep the train going. More than that, the kabane use the train whistle to signal the station before they get there to trick them into lowering the drawbridge, allowing them to get in. There way too much coincidence to just write it off as "they just turned into zombies in the perfect positions".

>>140866128

>I really wonder what the end goal will be.
>Guess we'll find out once the train reaches Ayame's uncle's place.

You still don't get it do you? They're gonna take the twelve episodes traveling there retard.

>>140877322

>But, this isn't a horse carriage where they horses will walk without any input, this requires a significant degree of cooperation and effort to keep the train going.

As long as the brakes are off and there's water and coal in the engine, the train is going to go forwards. Obviously it will lose momentum and stop as the coal burns out and the water evaporates, but assuming the train was taken over recently it should have enough momentum to get to its destination.

>More than that, the kabane use the train whistle to signal the station before they get there to trick them into lowering the drawbridge, allowing them to get in.

Coincidence, a dead man's hand was attached to the whistle pull. Alternatively, some panicking retard who's still alive in the control cabin is still following "all-clear" procedures despite being obviously not "all-clear."

food girl is the only good girl in this show.

mumei is a smug mary sue.
princess is passive and boring.
pink hair is a total bitch.

character quality is 50/50 as fuck but girls are particularly bad

>>140873052
sadly valrave was shit, but I understand the reference

>>140877322
I have to agree. If you rewatch the scene in episode one, pic related seems very deliberate, especially considering how close they were to the station. Also, in the webm you posted, it almost feels like they were intentionally trying to damage the water tank and stop the train from progressing/moving.

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>>140877766
Forgot my picture. Sorry for the quality. The kanabe very clearly pushes down on the corpse the trigger the whistle, at least imo.

>>140877695
>total bitch
She just wants to drive her fucking train and all these people are being dramatic around her

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Cheeky.

>>140877609
What if they get there in the next episode?

They could be turned away, that station could fall or for other reasons they set off in a new destination.

>>140877642
>As long as the brakes are off and there's water and coal in the engine, the train is going to go forwards. Obviously it will lose momentum and stop as the coal burns out and the water evaporates, but assuming the train was taken over recently it should have enough momentum to get to its destination.

Well at that point we're just straight up speculating off when the train was taken. I still find the horns far too conveniently timed to be coincidence myself. Plus the Kabane utterly lose their shit when the train is about to escape, and go from "shambling zombie mode" to "flying projectile zombie mode".

>>140877695
>princess stabs Ikoma to prove a point
>pink hair is literally the only reason any of them were able to leave the station
>mumei clearly has some pretty severe limitations, both physical and emotional

Did you even watch?

>>140877766
>>140877829
Glad to see I'm not just crazy. I think it's pretty clearly foreshadowed that the kabane have some measure of intelligence, even if it's just a primal groupthink.

>>140875051
>>140874903
>>140874680
>>140874124
>debating morals
Feels like TWD Season 2.

>>140877872

Everything is speculation until more evidence is revealed to support either hypothesis. As it stands I don't think there's anything that solidly disproves either argument, since I don't think we're in the "enough coincidences to be a pattern" zone yet.

>>140877872
>I still find the horns far too conveniently timed to be coincidence myself.

Are you only 'pretending'?

Rewatch the shot about the train. The zombies were eating people, not conducting the train. Let's that sink down a moment.

The zombies were not conducting the train. They were busy eating people. They were not showing any kind of intelligence. They weren't twirling their moustache while saying 'All according to the plans boys'. They were only mindlessly eating everyone on board, which just happened to sound the horn.

If you didn't understand something so simple and obvious, then everything you said since the beginning is automatically invalidated by virtue of you proving yourself to be a moron. You can't hope to be taken seriously if you are unable to get something so simple and obvious.

>>140878353
>Everything is speculation until more evidence is revealed to support either hypothesis

But they actually show the zombie pushing the dude to pull the whistle, and it does it twice at the right times. I guess it really is up to your interpretation of the scene so I won't say you're wrong by any means, but I still feel like there is more evidence towards my interpretation given further actions by the kabane that demonstrate a remarkable level of intelligence. But like you said, neither is ironclad, so I guess I shouldn't be such a sperg about it.

>>140878367
But it's been made pretty clear that zombies don't eat people like traditional zombies. They'll bite and kill them, but after they're dead they move on. Their goal is turning, not feeding, as demonstrated by virtually every Kabane having a remarkably intact body, and the zombies leaving after a person has been bitten and killed.

>If you didn't understand something so simple and obvious, then everything you said since the beginning is automatically invalidated by virtue of you proving yourself to be a moron.

Oh, I fell for bad bait.

>>140878471
>They'll bite and kill them, but after they're dead they move on. Their goal is turning, not feeding, as demonstrated by virtually every Kabane having a remarkably intact body, and the zombies leaving after a person has been bitten and killed.
they feed off blood

>>140878471

>But they actually show the zombie pushing the dude to pull the whistle, and it does it twice at the right times.

If the zombie was truly intelligent they'd have pulled the chain themselves instead of ambiguously humping the guy who's loosely attached to the chain. I mean maybe they have some modicum of intelligence given you need some to actually function at all (basic principles of finding and hunting prey, for example), but I don't think there's enough evidence to prove that it is above stereotypical zombie levels yet.

I mean if they could figure out timing and (cause and effect) patterns they should be way more fucking dangerous than they're presented as.

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Bloody hell, the kabane got fucking destroyed.

>>140878870
What if Mumei eats the baby for its blood as a curveball for the show? I forget the scene but wasn't just the mother infected? Do you think her baby is also a zombie and will pop out of her belly alien style? So much could happen in ep4, I don't want to wait a week.

>>140878779
Well, at no point have I said they were truly intelligent to the level of a human. I think it's more like an animalistic intelligence, in which they can observe and learn, and use some non linear thinking, but still can't match human thinking or critical thinking. If they could then they wouldn't get outsmarted by a fucking moat of all things. I've heard this referred to as "low cunning", in that they aren't just dumb one track robots, but still couldn't ever match a human. The only reason this level of intelligence works is because human underestimate the kabane and think they are mindless monsters; if the humans realized the kabane were like fairly intelligent animals and treated them as such then they wouldn't be so taken surprise when the kabane don't act like morons.

I mean, if cats can use and flush toilets and snakes can open fucking doors, then I don't find the not-zombies figuring out fairly simple functions to be that much of a stretch of imagination even if they can't figure out all cause and effect scenarios like you say.. This is even more true if they have some kind of loose hive mind that's been implied through them flipping out when a Kabane dies, or them suddenly going ape and launching at the escaping train.

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Conservative ja nai

We are neither Republican nor Democrat...WE ARE TRUMP

>>140872856
Gesui.

>>140870773
I think he knows Kajika, Takumi and Ikoma. In the ED the second image that appears, shows all of them in the river together. Also they were working together so I guess they are friends.

>>140879169
Yes. And in the last image he is sitting next to Yukina. I see what you did there animators.

>>140878953

>Well, at no point have I said they were truly intelligent to the level of a human.

Oh, okay now that we're clear on this point I think I get your position more. Assuming animal level intelligence (which isn't a stretch, given basic hunting instincts) I think the real question for me is "could a dog figure out you need to pull this particular string twice at a certain time to open the gate so they can get into a fortress and convert/feed on dudes?"

I can see an animal figuring out that trains can go into fortresses, and maybe that the train makes a noise to make the door open from merely observing these interactions from the outside. However, I doubt the ability to deduce which mechanism in the train operates the whistle, since they couldn't see that mechanism from the outside. At this point it's pure coincidence that the conductor/engineer died with their hand attached to the whistle chain that enabled the gates to open.

>This is even more true if they have some kind of loose hive mind that's been implied through them flipping out when a Kabane dies, or them suddenly going ape and launching at the escaping train.

I don't think that implies that they have a hive mind, more that they might have empathy for one of their own in the first case (typical for pack animals), and an understanding that their prey is about to escape in the second case (again, typical for non-hive animals, most know when the situation is no longer in their favor).

>>140876436
I really do hope there isn't some silly explanation for it all, like it was a virus from space or some shit. They've been vaguely science-y about the whole deal so far, I'd like the rest of the story to stray too far from this.

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Why did they hire a gaijin?
Why did he need a bucket to explain that the water tank they patched was broken?

>>140878951

Babies share blood with the mother m8

>>140879248

DO NOT QUESTION THE GAIJIN HABANERO.

>>140879250
no

>>140871655
Perfect 10/10 bully material. Would husbando.

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>No kabane in south korea
G-glorious nippon huh?

if i fucked memei when she's weak and sleeping will i get kabaneri aids

>>140878991
>trump
>running as republican
>not republican

What?

>>140879232
Honestly, I'm not sure about dogs specifcally, but I know that animals such as crows and octopi have been able to make some impressive leaps in thinking that most animals wouldn't even fathom. For example, I remember reading one story where a crow received a straight wire, and bent said wire in order to unlatch a lock to food that it's beak was too big to get to. Not only did the crow have to conceptualize that the latch was keeping it from the food, but it had to have the thought process to realize that it could use a tool to get to the latch that its body couldn't reach. In another case, and octopi that had been escaping had the lid to its tank replaced with an electronically locked one. After some trial and error, the fucking octopi spit water at a light fixture, which blew the fuse and let the octopi push open the now useless lock to escape. If the kabane could match the level of an animal with a malicious intent towards humans, it would be pretty damned effective I think.

>However, I doubt the ability to deduce which mechanism in the train operates the whistle

Well, this could go one of two ways. Either A) the zombies have some sort of hive mind, in which what one learns is learned by others, in which case it would make sense that some kabane somewhere would figure out the whistle/chain connection. Either that, or while feeding, the kabane realized that pulling the chain started the whistle, and the kabane exploited that to trick the station to get past the moat. But you're right that I am just speculating hard at this point, I shouldn't have been so sure of my own idea.

>I don't think that implies that they have a hive mind, more that they might have empathy for one of their own in the first case (typical for pack animals)

That's a really good point, I didn't even think of a pack animal mentality. Shit, I should just lurk more and stop pretending like I can predict shows.

>>140879250
ok then, but it would be zombie blood and the swords went through her heart not her stomach so that little bugger should be zombified and just itching to get out of there and infect someone. Tell me why this isn't a possible scenario for ep4, mark my words we haven't seen the last of that little fucker.

>>140879248
>oh shit, these fucking slants are bitching about clearly safe humans
>we have bigger problems, the train is about to take a massive dump on us
>hey, here's a pail and a wrench, let's shut these yellow golems up so we don't all get eaten by zombie vampires

Seems pretty clear to me. The dude was prioritizing his threats.

>>140875604
Official lewds when

>>140876248
>>140876396
They will reveal why she is "12", but it's already obvious she's older.
Fuck off with your meme posting.

>>140878471
Again, you can't hope to be taken seriously when you are so wrong, for so long, and can't understand basic logic.

I'm sorry anon. You fucked up. Be a man and accept it.

>>140879704
>Fuck off with your meme posting.

But it wasn't a meme. In another comment I even said that they will probably reveal she's older than twelve due to the kabaneri magic. But still, even if she is supposed to be twelve, her body says otherwise.

>>140879727
k

>>140879248
Because he's a foreign character, I assume English if Suzuki is a Japanisation of smith. Probably got stuck there when the virus became a pandemic and was hired for his engineering skills.

The bucket was to get everyone's attention.

>>140879397
Mothers just give their babies nutrients through the umbilical cord right? If mothers can pass on their addictions to their newborns shouldn't the kabane virus also transfer to her baby?

>>140879546

>trump
>running as republican
>not republican

Trump's views are too ideologically scattered to make him a "true" Republican of any type. He has several platforms that run contrary to core Republican orthodoxy, such as being anti-free trade. Simultaneously, he holds too many conservative views to be viewed as a Democrat, despite having agreed with many of their positions in the past. In essence, he belongs with neither party, and is trying to overwrite the ideals of one party to suit his needs (which is why you see the huge pushback with party regulars, they don't see much general election merit in his changes, in fact many of them run counter to their post-2012 recommendations to win the next presidential election).

>Shit, I should just lurk more and stop pretending like I can predict shows.

I haven't even watched this show yet, I'm arguing entirely based on evidence presented in this thread and others. Probably going to pick this up given the so far generally positive response here.

>>140879912
Just because the walking meme is mentally incapable of having a coherent platform doesn't mean he isn't a Republican. He is running as one, he's appealing to them, and he constantly spouts far right rhetoric. Even if you like him, denying obvious facts makes me worry for you. He may be anti free trade, but the accepted Republican philosophy only pays lip service to free trade. It's far more corporatist than anything, and that's what Trump made his fortune on. Free trade would have left him drowning in debts and failed ventures, rather than being able to recoup with bankruptcy to float to the top. He may diverge in some way from the norm, but on his red meat issues, and his voting base, he's undeniably Republican. McCain was much the same way, in that he actually had some novel opinions, but at the end of the day towed the party line without fail. I can understand why people like him, but arguing that he's not Republican seems really bizarre to me. I figured the other party members pushed back against him because he's said some straight up stupid shit (the content may have not been stupid, but the delivery certainly was), and don't want him associated with the Republican party.

>Probably going to pick this up given the so far generally positive response here.

All disagreement aside, you really should. I'm not going to overhype and meme the show, but it's pretty fucking great so far. I've watched all episodes three times before the next is released which I haven't done in a decade of watching airing anime, so you know it's got something going for it. At the very least, Mumei and Ayame are tasty.

>>140869434
Too bad she dies in the novel. DROPPED

>>140880277
Why do you post false spoilers in all Habanero threads? What do you get out of it?

I like the train .

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Mumei will never ride you. Ever.

How does this make you feel?

>>140880350
trains give me an erection

>>140880360
I wish I was a train so I could have her inside of me.

After building up tension and showing the efforts of Ikoma, it was all thrown out of the window when an overpowered loli flying around one shotting the scary habaneros while still looking cute. They almost had something here but had to go for the superloli route.

>>140880539
>Implying Ikoma won't have to kill the super loli after she goes full ghost pepper

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>>140880360
Joke's on you, I live vicariously through Ikoma.

>>140880539
I kind of feel the same, but I'm hoping the show will deal with it well enough. We'll just have to wait and see.

>>140880146

>He is running as one, he's appealing to them, and he constantly spouts far right rhetoric.

Just trying to explain what I think the logic behind the image probably is. His opinions are definitely in the Republican's wheelhouse, it's just that it's sufficiently uncomfortable for them that they don't want to actually label him as such. Plus you have the fact he was way more left wing a decade ago makes him seem way more like a force from outside the party...

...It just occurred to me that the image is probably also trying to play up his "outsider" image, as appearing like a hostile takeover of the Republican party plays into his image as the strongman winner.

>I figured the other party members pushed back against him because he's said some straight up stupid shit (the content may have not been stupid, but the delivery certainly was), and don't want him associated with the Republican party.

Which is another way of saying that he's changing the Republican party in a way they don't want, because it would most likely be fatal in a general election. The Republican party, as part of their post-2012 autopsy, has been trying to look less like the "racist rich white boy" party to fit with the changing demographics of the voterbase, but Trump is playing right into the hands of the opposition by painting them as such.

>back on topic

I'm always late to the party every season because I use this board to aggregate opinions and figure out which shows I'd enjoy versus the ones that would have zero appeal to me. This show was one of those borderline cases where I wasn't sure if this was the type of show I could enjoy, but given what I've seen here it's probably in the former category.

Is there any multi track drifting webm/gifs mowing down canyoneros?

Why is the boiler at the rear of the train and not actually part of the locomotive? Is it fuelled by kabane? Remember this is SnK 2

Why is water being used as a "coolant"? Steam engines don't use water as coolant, they use it to make the steam. No, I don't have a snappy explanation for that one.

>>140880939
>Why is the boiler at the rear of the train and not actually part of the locomotive?

Because it was probably built at the beginning of the kabane shitstorm, and it's too late to fix basic design problems at this point.

>Why is water being used as a "coolant"? Steam engines don't use water as coolant, they use it to make the steam

It might be a mistranslation, or it might be a different kind of tech than we know. Either is pretty likely.

>>140880939
Nuclear power bro

>>140881211
>It might be a mistranslation,
They say 冷却水.

episode 4 when?

>>140881248
Ok, then we probably don't know enough about the fucking train. Either that or the person who wrote that didn't know enough. Either way, does it really matter?

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I have to say this scene was pretty cute.

>>140866301
>>140869433
I don't think a vaccine at this point will do much good. Your current population becomes immune, but they will still get ripped apart by the existing Kabane in combat. And it seems like they are everywhere.

I think whatever research they are doing will somehow result in some serious macguffin superweapon that will magically wipe out all Kabane.

>>140880939
I think coolant is a correct term? It is used to collect the heat from the fuel reaction and transfer the energy to whatever you want to use it for.

>That piano at the end when sit was going down
I love this show. I wonder what's up with that rock though? If it hurts mumei then it must have some kind of anti-kabane magic on it or something.

>>140879904
Not so easy, the umbilical barrier is very thought for antigens to pass.

For instance, HIV can't get through it.

>>140881714
>https://aidsinfo.nih.gov/education-materials/fact-sheets/24/70/preventing-mother-to-child-transmission-of-hiv-during-childbirth
>A pregnant woman with HIV can pass HIV to her baby at any time during pregnancy, including during childbirth.

>>140874799
>Jaded and tired of this shit is a possibility too, if she is vastly older than she looks due to plot virus.
The virus only appeared 20 years before the anime.

She's not older than 32.

>>140874799
>>140882142
There's probably a fair chance that she's a time traveller too and pissed that everyone is ignoring her, given of course who is writing this.

>>140881379
>this is a bloodsucking, zombie-killing machine

>>140877609
That would be a shit cliffhanger ending though. It would have no closure at all.

Take Attack on Titan, zombies, steampunk and Metro together and you get Habanero

I would just like to point out that I am enjoying this Habanero meme. Carry on

>>140877856
Is he alpha or just fucking tactless?

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>>140883011

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>8 episodes left

why does habanero-kun need to invent a new gun when it seems like the steam rifles do the job just fine?

>>140883410
can't pierce the iron heart.

>>140883509

Mumei's can

>>140883838
DELETE THIS

I hope somebody makes an AMV with this song as soon as there is enough footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-DpRcxK_N8

>>140876155
The LN version, yeah. Kabaneri is based on a series of actual novels with a different name.

So do habaneros need human blood strictly or would animal be fine as well?

Also do they even have animals or did kabane eat them all?

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>>140873653
here's a shitty paint illustration for you

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>>140883838

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>>140873625

Train is fuelled by extra spicy Kabane bits.

>>140883956
It's her gun which isn't available to average joe yet.

>>140881379
The things I want that tongue to do to my dick.

Conclusion:
Kabaneri = Bastard child of vampires and zombies.

>>140883956

Mumei's also requires you to be in direct contact with them. I imagine their rifles would have similar effects at such range

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No cutie Fujika to cook and pour my tea while I clean my rifle and fix the train.

;_;

>>140883011
During that point tactless.

You don't fucking ask someone's recently deceased if they were fucking them, especially during a funeral procession.

>>140883410
You what? You see how no other bushi can kill them?

>>140884896
>Also do they even have animals
They were literally eating crabs in this episode

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>tfw a berserk Ikoma will never rape you and feeling terrible for what he did after he regains his senses
>then he proceeds to choke you erotically to stop the infection

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>forced conflict

worst aspect of the show

>>140886223
>forced posting
Worst aspect of the board

>>140886223
>didn't lift a finger to save the villagers
>we must save the villagers

>hey let's murder the one who saved us even though she can basically kill us with just an iron ball.

What's the point of this character?

>>140886223
I want to respect this character because he is loyal to his master but not utilizing an asset that will massively help you in your mission is making me hate that faggot's face more.

>>140876944

LEVEL UP

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>>140886223

>Autism

But seriously wtf was he doing in this scene?

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>smartaleck teenagers with superpowers save the world

Jesus christ I'm too old for this

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The cringe on this maryS is unreal

>>140886658

Wasn't it meant to be honoring the dead soldiers or some shit.

Could ask the same question as to why militaries fire fucking rifles skywards couldn't we?

>>140886658
Probably imagining that he was cutting off Mumei's head. Being autistic, he didn't realize that being watched by his subordinates while in the middle of guard duty wasn't the best time to act out his fantasies. He probably got to *teleports behind you* before realizing he couldn't actually do that in real life.

>>140886658
You already answered it

>>140886519
I think he might be a secretly bad guy at the end.
Think about it, he always do whatever benefit him the most and say cool shit when he's in front of others. I thing he's the betray-everyone-in-the-end type of character

>>140886821
The cringe on your post is unreal.

>>140886821
What's kabaneri helmet supposed to protect?

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>>140885623
Wouldn't be the first

>>140886934
>offended otakupleb detected

>>140886469
You're going to love it later when his onee-chan is bitten and he refuses to kill her, leaving Ikoma to do it for him.

>>140886964
Her brain. From meaningful characterization and good taste

>>140886964
Her cheeks I guess. The Happuri was an actual historical type of Japanese "helmet".

>>140887033
I'm offended by the blatant misuse of the term Mary Sue to describe Mumei.

>>140886658
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iaido

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>>140887042
Such pleasure to be had.

>>140886964
It's for protection against humans that wants to kill her by shooting her in her head.

>>140887185
>A Mary Sue for female characters and Gary Stu, Marty Stu or Larry Stu for male characters is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character, a young or low-rank person who saves the day through unrealistic abilities. Often this character is recognized as an author insert or wish-fulfillment.

Seems pretty spot on to me desu

>>140887185
>blatant misuse of the term Mary Sue
The entirety of 4chan has been misusing the term Mary Sue since forever to apply to 'people that I don't like' instead of the original meaning.

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>>140887364
inb4
>but her powers aren't unrealistic because she's half zombie so that makes sense in the context of the plot!

Come on senpai

>>140887407
I can tell that from the TV Tropes definition quoted by this moron >>140887364
TVT laboriously lists all the characteristics of a Mary Sue and then goes on to say someone can still be a Mary Sue even if they don't fulfil any of these characteristics.

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Decisive Ayame is mighty cute!

I hope she grows as a leader, the best.

>>140887364
>>140887590

You are both wrong. She was probably trained extremely hard as a young girl in numerous martial arts. Was gifted in her abilities and now got a buff because her Kabaneri powers.

>>140887607
Sure, if their name is literally Mary Sue.

>>140886693
>teenagers making inventions
This happens in the real world too anon. Get down off your high horse you old faggot.

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>>140887607
>Definition fits precisely
>Well, that doesn't count because it's from X website

It's just a 30sec pasta from wikipedia desu

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>>140887691
Site is 18 and up Anon.

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>>140886693

He is miserable that people who are intelligent and creative can work hard to create inventions that can benefit mankind while he sits on his lazy ass watching animu all day.

>Anime has smart character
>Makes me insecure about myself
>Dropped

What a faggot.

>>140886821
She's not a mary sue, she's the villain.

>>140887794
And you're too old that you're still using CRT monitors.

And besides, Kongokaku maybe already made something similar to Ikoma's invention. And groups of Kabaneris.

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>>140873030
who is living in that shack?Why is someone living in a shack during superzombie apocalypse?

>>140887691
>>140887812
>>140887944

(You)

>>140888022
Maybe is abandoned

>>140888022
It's either abandoned or it's just there for crew and passengers on train rides to use.

>>140888023
>I-I'll reply with a Y-You. T-that will show them! H-hehe.

>>140888022
It's probably a tool shed in case they need to fix something without having to lug all that equipment around.

>>140888022
>not living into your rape shack in case of superzombie apocalypse.

Where did Ikoma get the chest explosive from anyway?

>>140887648
definetely best girl

>>140888284
She and Mumei are going to be raped so hard by everyone in the doujins. Feels bad.

>>140888245
Probably some random bushi corpse, or maybe they keep them on street corners for cases of imouto suddenly turning zambino.

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My lord can't be this cute, and I so considerate.

What's your thought on how the current incident with Ayame and Ikoma will be resolved?

>>140888792
benis in bagina

>>140888414
Are there going to be any doujins with Ikoma in them?

>>140888792
Some soppy emotional moment where Ayame lets Ikoma have a taste.

>>140888792
she lets him drink menstrual blood so she doesnt turn into a habanero

>trains and zombies
>MC is half zombie
>Muh humanity
>femdom waifubait

Literally >autism, the show

>>140889277
>literally attack on titan but with zombies instead

Wouldn't having that stone on his hand all the time hurt after a while?

>>140889593
I can't be the only one who struggled to watch attack on titan but have no problems watching attack on trains.

>>140888906
He's going to be incredibly OOC as the beta who enjoys being NTR or something. That or the fujo-ships.

>>140890127
He probably likes the pain as a constant reminder to never run away again or something.

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Just like Eren and Annie!

>>140890314
You might be onto something, he probably has a huge masochism fetish, judging from the auto erotic asphyxiation and his bondage suit.

How does he manage to walk around with nobody noticing the huge boner the pain from his hand gives him?

>>140890410
Just like Kaneki and Touka!

>>140880939
One of the current theories is that the trains, or at least the one they're currently on, are nuclear powered. Hence the coolant and the ridiculous startup sequence.

>>140890868
>Nuclear power
>In a Japanese anime
Hahahahaha. No.

>>140885154
>The filename
B-but was that anime really about trains...?

>>14088872
consensual rape ala valvrave

>>140885995
I'd prefer this with Mumei

>>140890937
Maybe then it uses the power of friendship. That would be something more anime-esque.

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What's the deal with this faggot?

>>140890868
That's stupid. Plain old steam locomotives need shitloads of water to generate Steam pressure and keep the boiler cool.

>>140891062
tch

>>140891062
Probably a minor Noble looking to move up in the world via some good old-fashioned backstabbing.

>>140891062
He's a ninja told to kill the kabaneri.

>>140891034
It uses coal or oil.

>>140876448
>implying evolution can happen in twenty years
of course it can
It can happen in a single day providing enough of the species is wiped out at once. If there's something that kills off everything without a certain trait, all the survivors will possess the trait, regardless of how prevalent it was in the population before.
The population has "evolved" to possess the trait.

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>>140877322
why the fuck did he spin while doing this

>>140891210
Why not? It's a good trick.

>>140891210
drills

>>140891210
obviously to stabilize his flight path to achieve maximum accuracy

>>140891210
「GOLDEN ROTATION」

>>140886964
I figure its more for appearances, and helps hide the glowing Kabane veins on the side of her face when she takes her ribbon off