Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1474

>tfw finally finished Tae Kim and Core2k
Well, guys, I guess this is it. These past 2 years have been nice and I'm grateful to you all, but now that I'm fluent in Nihongo (Japanese), I don't have any reason to frequent DJT anymore.
See you space cowboys...

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

As long as you never give up and you keep pushing to better yourself, you'll make it no matter what. You CAN learn Japanese!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
You work hard and you have expectations. So I'm living my expectations right now.

>>139016220
There is a screenshot I want to post, but I didn't save it. I'm sure someone else will post it for me.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tUzlriGDI

無茶にするな
楽しいことだけやれ

>>139016675
/fit/ pls go

>>139016675
I always thought it was funny how people in our culture like to use curse words so casually in everyday life (usually because they think it's cool)
that when the time comes to emphasize something they find they have nothing available to them to signify "now I really mean it" so they just come up with increasingly unique/aggressive ways to say the same thing.

>>139017006
Fuck you.

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>>139017006

Studies show people who curse more often are emotionally stronger than those who don't.

Enjoy being a crybaby pussy, bitch.

On topic:

Is there any way to make anki automatically mark your card wrong and show you the answer after a certain time has elapsed? So as to avoid staring at a card for 30 seconds when it's obvious you don't know it.

>>139009806
「行かすわけには」 is あなたを
「行かされるわけには」 is 私を
If one is "I won't let you pass"
the other one is just "you pass won't be let by me"
One is just passive.

>>139017006
I agree, it is pretty stupid. I've never said fuck, so I can still pull it out if I ever need to be super serious.

>>139017236
I feel sorry for whoever you use it on

>>139017006
It's called an expletive you fucking braindead Clapistani.

>>139017224
Don't be a little fucking sissy and press space cunt.

>>139017502

Fuck you I want it to be automatic.

>>139017531
Make a script to simulate specebar keypress after 30 seconds and stop, then reset after you've pressed a number key.

There's this game where you earn stars based on your level, if I want to say that I'm trying to level up to get the third star, do I say 第３星に頑張ってみる or 第３星へ頑張ってみる?

>>139017224
>cursing means you're emotionally tough

This is interesting because I've always been regarded as well-spoken and intelligent by my peers but I fucking swear all the time; even when explaining something complex and technical and even during formal meetings.

I also live alone and haven't had a girlfriend since I was in high school. I don't socialize offline at all. I am steadfast in all that I do, and I'm not bouncing off the walls.

ブログはこれで

>>139015303
>>139017235

You can say 「僕は君を行かすわけにはいかない」 (I won't/can't let you go), but you cannot say 「僕は君を行かされるわけにはいかない」 because you have to replace 「を」 particle with 「に」 to be grammatically correct. But this changes the meaning to "I cannot be made to go by you" (「僕は君に行かされるわけにはいかない」). This expression is pretty awkward even if it's grammatically correct.

>>139018240
It also means you have a small penis

>>139018099
who needs へ or に i dont

三番星を狙っています

>>139018326
Like I said, I was saying あなたを行かすわけには」 and 私を行かされるわけには

I'm not saying 「僕は君を行かされるわけにはいかない」, you do.

>>139018099
>>139018385
Is it gramatically incorrect if I leave the に?

>>139018468
I got it. But I'm pretty sure no Japanese would use the expression like 「私を行かされるわけには」.

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さくらが開花しましたわ、おにいさま

いっしょにみにゆこ

>>139018757
You are the one who flip the sentence by giving out one example of 僕は君を行かす and flip it to 僕は君に行かされる.

That's never what I said in the first place.
I'm saying something like あなたに学校を行かさない and 私に学校を行かされない

Anyone know who the guy is that the news in Japan is going crazy about, the guy who cheated on his wife with 5 different women.
Why is cheating so weird in Japan, they just get forgiven and with a public apology and then everything is fine.

http://www.yukawanet.com/archives/5025977.html

I assume the religious differences mean they aren't so focused on infidelity and the cultural differences like they used to be able to have more than one wife.

>>139018933
Japan is stuck in the 1800s and thinks it's not really a big deal if the husband cheats on the wife.

>>139018933
http://ototake.com/
even in this apology notice on his website, his wife apologies to everyone because "as a wife I am responsible".
Surely she doesn't need to apologise for her husbands conduct.

>>139018621
in mine? you shouldnt put it there

your sentence is actually fubar and needs completely rewritten if you want to use 頑張る somewhere

another example to i guess get your sentiment across with trying to use 頑張る

三番星を手に入れるのためにレベルアップ頑張ってみます

you can throw your excess にs into that one

>>139019152
あざーす
医者ちゃん

>>139019198
Whoa, shit got complex all of a sudden.
Fuck it I'll use yours.

>>139019336
use it or you lose it dude

>>139019336
Mate, just say third star をゲットしたい or ゲットするからがんばる

Why complicate yourself there with がんばってみる。

>>139019389
Cause that star is a pain in the ass to get.

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Teo toriatte hanami ni yukou
aisuru hito yo

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excuse me
does anyone have this and could seed?

I would like some japanese picture books, but this seems dead despite being from 2012

thought about asking /jp/ but figure id ask here first in case someone still has it and could reupload

>>139019831
三番星は尻に痛みです

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Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone could do me a solid and translate this, I figured this would be the best place to go. It does contain spoilers for Dark Souls 3, and if this isn't the right place you can refer me somewhere else I guess and I will delete this post. Thanks in /a/dvance.

>>139020004
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=339007

this is the file in question

>>139020067
Why don't you learn Japanese so you can translate it yourself?

>>139020067
draw it in google translate

>>139020114
I work 45+ hours a week, spend off time fulfilling obligations/housework and spending time with my wife and family, and only get a quiet couple hours to myself every week, which I use to learn sign language as a hobby.

>>139020067
On the red line: The Kings' Avatar
Under the gold picture: Estus Flask +5

Though Kings' Avatar may have a different official translation.

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What the heck kind of laugh is this supposed to be?

>>139020067
incarnation of kings 王たち化身

this is not the place to go to ask for this shit but its cool game on dude

>>139020275
t. /r9k/

>>139020236
Thank you anon, I really appreciate it. I tried the google translate drawing and so far I had "king it was the pictomap" so I'm sure I fucked it up.

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Speaking of 王begginer question, which one would you use to pronounce 王?
おう or おおきみ

>>139020335
王様 i guess

Having a little trouble with the following:
捜査当局は、男がパリの同時テロ事件に関連した調べなどが進むなかで追い詰められ
It comes from this:
>ベルギーで起きた連続テロ事件で、実行犯の男のものとみられるパソコンに「いずれ捕まることになる」と書き残されていたことが新たに分かり、捜査当局は、男がパリの同時テロ事件に関連した調べなどが進むなかで追い詰められ、犯行に及んだ可能性もあるとみて、捜査を進めています。
Does Verb + なかで, X, mean that X is occuring within the timespan of the verb? How is this different from 間？At the point 追い詰められ, isn't the subject still 捜査当局? Because it's in passive form, doesn't this mean that 捜査当局 themselves have been driven into a corner or tracked down? I know that with context I can tell that it's the opposite situation but I would like clarification about the grammar.

>>139016138
Can ながら and のに be used interchangeably to emphasize that two clauses are opposite in meaning? For example, in this sentence from All About Particles, it looks like you could use either and it would have the same meaning
>高木さんが体が弱いと言いながら、よく夜遅くまで酒を飲んでいる。
>Although Takagi says he is in poor health, he often drinks late into the night.
Or am I just missing some subtle difference?

>>139016138
In this sentence
>あなたの血液は、何型か知っていますか？
what is the meaning of the か particle? Why is it is used over が in this context?

>>139020237
"Va heh heh"? That... can't be right...

>>139016138
The following sentence is in the Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar
>毎日漢字を勉強しているのによく覚えられません。
I haven't really studied how passive is used, however the the dictionary says a common characteristic of the Japanese passive is that the event is not under the control of those affected by it. Is that why it's used here? Does the sentence make sense without the passive?
>毎日漢字を勉強しているのによく覚えません。

>>139016138
Is 印される いんされる or しるされる in 少年の足跡は聖母イブの大地に印され始めたのだった?

>>139016138
In
>いつ頃暖かくなり始めるかは場所によって違います。
why is there a か after 始める？

>>139020577
か = whether or not

>>139020502
If you just look at
男がパリの同時テロ事件に関連した調べなどが進むなかで追い詰められ,犯行に及んだ
it's clear that 男 is the one getting 追い詰められ

The verb performed by 捜査当局は is とみて、操作を勧めています

>>139016138
Why does 何時まで寝ますか mean what time do you wake up while 何時まで起きますか means what time do you sleep? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

>>139020502
>>139020555
>>139020577
>>139020601
>>139020631
>>139020662
maybe slow down there friendo

>>139016138
In 日本語と英語を話せる can you replace wo with wa to make the two languages the topic, or does that sound unnatural?

>>139016138
Does やつ(or in this manga's case ヤツ) refer to a thing in a negative light, or is it rather neutral?

>>139020662
lit
>The answer to the question "When will it start getting warmer" changes depending on the place

less lit.
>The time of year it begins to warm up depends on the place

>>139020004
pls respond

>>139016138
In respect to the word 韓国学校, according to Jisho 韓国 is either a noun or no - adjective. So why isn't it 韓国の学校? My overall question is when can I combine nouns without using の? Is there maybe some kind of rule?

>>139020696
seriously what the fuck just happened

>>139020710
Yes, but the nuance changes. Just read more.

>>139020734
Neutral. It's even pretty neutral when referring to people.

>>139016138
Does にしては have a derogatory nuance in it? as in
>日本人にしては英語うまいね

>>139020775
It's the anti-DJT autist spamming.

>>139016138
Can someone check my translations?

>彼が作った映画にはやさしさがあふれている。
The movie the man made was filled/overflowing with affection. Just a quick question - is the underlying meaning here that the affection the man put into the movie was overflowing/easy too see?
>そんな無理なことを言わないでください。
Don't say those kind of unreasonable things.
>どの作品にも良さがあります。
I'm having a bit of trouble with this one - if someone could give a translation with maybe an explanation on the どの and にも that would be great!
>スポーツは見るのは好きなんですが。。。
So you like watching sports...
>この手紙には書いた人のまじめさが表れている。
The seriousness of the person who wrote this letter is expressed in it.

3 hours ago this dude was like man i have the perfect plan to destroy them and then spent the last 3 hours compiling this shit question list whilst cackling maniacally and now the poops are raining down

i sorta like it but tryhard non improv shit is for lamers

>>139020577
>>139020680
It's just question marker. "what type ? do you know? "

>>139020781
Does "you're pretty" have a negative nuance in
"You're pretty fat for an ugly girl"?

>>139016138
What is the difference between ぬか and エキス？

Anyone willing to help TL a line from Souma?

>>139020852
yeah me dude im here for all of your stupid tl needs

dont learn japanese just ask me to read it to you

>>139020823
Oops yeah I misread it. But the answer to >>139020662 applies to >>139020577 as well

>>139016138
What's the difference between using the normal verb and using the verb stem+する?
釣る
釣りする
and
引っ越す
引っ越しする

>>139020873
一色とえりながD会場に向かっていて、一方アリスは中村くんにキライ言って好きにさせない宣言

楠くんが中村くんに呼び出しくらって、アリスがえりなにだいしゅきアピールして終わり

>>139020818
4chan is an 18+ website

>>139016138
What is the difference between て【…】おきます and 【…】ために ?

Ok anyone who has a real question just wait like 30 minutes.

>>139020905
4chan is an 18+ website

>>139016138
>私はフランシスが本当に何歳を知りません。
Was corrected to:
>私はフランシスが本当に何歳かを知りません。

Can anybody tell me what the difference is/function of か?

>>139020901
One color and Elina is heading to D venue, while Alice is not to like to say I hate to Nakamura-kun declaration

Kusunoki-kun is clutter call to Nakamura-kun, end to appeal-out masses Alice in Erina

>>139016138
I don't really know why I stumbled across this, and it's probably still ahead of what I am learning currently, but my understanding is that this can be used to say you did not do something. For example, 知らなかった and 知らず translate to roughly the same thing, right? Japanese keyboards seem to recognize it as a valid sentence, but I'm sort of reluctant to use it because I don't know exactly what it means. Translators also seem widely inconsistent when I try different verbs such as 分からず、寝ず、etc.

TL;DR: What is the difference between なかった and ず verb ending?

>>139020965
Google TL for the win.

:^)

>>139020987
if you werent spamming shit you took off of reddit id consider pasting back responses from said reddit post

>>139016138
Still trying to understand the NHK News, but I encountered a sentence which is giving me some trouble and I have an inclination - but cannot resolve part of it.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20160318/k10010448831000.html

The sentence is: このため自衛隊は部隊の展開を進めていて、ＰＡＣ３のほかに、高性能レーダーを備えた海上自衛隊のイージス艦を日本の周辺海域に派遣するなどして北朝鮮に"動きがないか"警戒することにしています。
I understood everything else without issue, but I am wondering if my inclination is correct. The final clause seems to say: "(The JSDF) ...will be vigilant even if there there is no action by North Korea." The weird part is the non-movement matter with the ka particle which I think can be translated as "If there is no movement". It makes sense, militarily, but is the focus on the JSDF watching the North Korea's (continued) non-movement with vigilance (from now) or despite the non-movement (of the past week)?
Also, this article is N2-level right? The only weird words were "破壊措置命令", "周辺海域" and the "迎撃" part of 迎撃ミサイル besides my confusion stemming from the rather complex sentence.

>>139021015
I was wondering why the thread was suddenly about learning Japanese as opposed to mindless shitposting.

>>139016138
How do you know when to use てもらう or てくれる? I'm very confused by this grammar point. I don't really know when to use くれる or もらう either.
>あいこさんのイメージで、花屋さんにつくってもらったのよ。
In this case why is もらう used instead of くれる？ I'm very confused by this example. I was taught the when the speaker is the topic we use くれる the speaker is the topic but the opposite is used.

>>139021043
This is even worse, because people will think there's someone to help, especially because all the points people mock from reddit are very basic confusion.

>>139020680
>か = whether or not
no, that's ka

absolutely terrible.

>>139021034
>Also, this article is N2-level right?
Yes, Japanese news is written with N2 level gaijins in mind

>>139021068
Stop.
>>139020680
Don't respond before googling the question to see if it's pasta, retard.

>>139021075
>because people will think there's someone to help
Yes, because the only people who ever benefit from answers and explanations are the people who ask the questions.

Good to see the regulars freaking out when actual on-topic content is being posted.

>>139021117
found the autist

>>139021117
t. the dick spamming low quality reddit questions instead of asking his own

>>139021095
>Don't respond before googling the question to see if it's pasta, retard.
Woah calm down there broseph it wasn't clear that we were being spammed yet

>>139021137
These questions are of a higher quality than what gets posted in these threads on a daily basis so what does that say?

>>139021117
If you're the reddit spammer, kill yourself. If you're the retard feeding the troll, fuck off and stop feeding the troll. If you're a third party, kill yourself for getting involved.

>>139021034
It just means they will keep an eye on North Korea in case there's any movement

>>139021156
I too would like to see DJT devolve into a place for redditors to spam their questions.

>>139021156
The following questions are exceedingly low quality.
>>139021068
>>139020987
>>139020961
>>139020919
>>139020900
>>139020839

>>139016138
Questions are questions you fucking idiot. If you want this thread to have a shred of credibility, either remain on topic or don't post at all.

>>139021117
>>139021156
it says you need to get your ass to reddit boy

>>139021185
They're not valid questions if they're copypasta.

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>>139021183
>The following questions are exceedingly low quality.
As opposed to pic related.

>>139021255
>discussing how language is used
>in a language thread
The horror. Your spamming is truly justified.

>>139016138
Do I have to practice writing the kanji?

>>139021255
Thing A being bad does not justify thing B being bad.

>>139021185
Sure, let me just go copy every question from reddit

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>>139021255
Dude..

>>139016138
I just downloaded Core2k/6k Optimize from the guide and I think it's glitched? It only has 6k cards in it? Is this normal?

>>139021272
>>139021255
>>139021291
Stop spamming.

>>139016138
Would N1 be enough to read Yotsubato with ease?

>>139021308
No, "near-native" is simply just not enough.

Btw fuck off back to lebbit with your bullshit questions.

>inb4 autists claim wanikani isn't the best way of learning kanji

>>139016138
Is Core2k/6k necessary for me if my level is around N3~2? Or should I get another deck?

Wanna bet it's the same troll who kept spamming new thread earlier?

Just report and ignore his posts

Report the following posts. It's a spammer and samefag. He's moved from spamming threads to shitting up this thread by copy pasting things from reddit, then from the archive.
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>>139021272
>>139021255
>>139021185
>>139021156
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>>139020816
>>139020781
>>139020631

There are more but I'm bored and want to go to bed.

>>139021255
Are you the same autist who takes screencaps of supposedly "off-topic" discussion and posts them on the /qa/ threads about DJT?

>>139016138
I've been trying to learn without doing kanji study, trying to pick kanji up just through vocab but I've noticed I get similar characters confused regularly, and I'd also like to be able to write.

The idea of learning readings with kanji instead of through vocab seems like a waste of time, which has lead me towards RTK, but I've heard a lot of negative thoughts towards RTK as well. What should I do /djt/?

>>139021384
>Just report and ignore his posts

Yep yep.

Anyone else playing any JRPGs in Japanese? I thought about the "compelling content" I've been told to read and VNs just aren't that.

>>139016138
What's with everyone riding the DOJG dick now? Just a year ago people were hating on DOJG because it was too technical. /djt/ is just full of the biggest get fluent quick bandwagoners.

>>139021421
I tried playing SaGa1 (final fantasy legend) but it was too difficult because of reading in pure kana.

>>139021034
>will be vigilant even if there there is no action by North Korea
"will be vigilant if there is any action by NK"
It's a "whether A or not" clause. It doesn't logically matter whether it's a negative or positive. In Japanese, a negative is often used.

>>139016138
I just woke up and did my reps. Feels fucking great.

I used to be really hung up on mining my new daily cards on the same day I do them, since it gives me a chance to remember them when they pop up in Anki after reading them. But when you have to mine your words before doing your reps, it's too easy to put it off. By the time I've mined my words and can do my reps, it's so late that I'm tired and the words barely stick anymore.

Just mining everything you might need to review whenever you read anything is definitely the best way to go. Even if you end up with 200+ new cards that you'll have completely forgotten you added by the time you get them, it's totally worth it to be able to do your reps first time in the morning.

>>139021441
Read the thread. That person is copy pasting questions from reddit, though he stopped and is now copying them from the archive so that they're harder for people like you to search for.

>>139021421
im actually playing disgaea 5 while i laugh at this clown shit

>>139021421
What are you playing?

>>139016138
So I just passed the 2k cards mark in core2k6. Got new voice actors which I don't mind but there aren't any pictures anymore.

Is it normal or is there something wrong with my collection.media folder?

>>139016138
So, guys, what's the difference between "Igu" and "Iku" on sex?

>>139016138
What's the difference between 正社員 and 平社員?

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ＦＦやってたおにいちゃん
さいきんみないね

くりあしたのかな

>>139021477
Haven't reached that point yet, but I read in a previous thread that only the first 2000 cards have pictures, so yes, that's apparently normal.

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>>139021421
Playing this

>>139021528
Yeah, that thing you read was a response to literally that exact question you just answered.

>>139021473

Lunar. Not very far because I'm not very far in Japanese. (and it takes eons to look up kanji with ps1 graphics)

Remember to report the false flagger's posts.

>>139016138
Will Core decks also teach me Conjugated Kanji ?

I've just started last month got some basic grammar down and lots of kanji in but haven't started any core decks and so I'm a bit lost

>>139021564
Oops, my bad. I forgot about the spamming autist.

Anyone have a link to that j-cat to jlpt ballpark conversion chart handy?

>>139021421
>VNs just aren't that

What eroge did you try and what are you unhappy about?

>>139021571
Nice, which one? And how far are you into your studies?

>>139021585
>false flagger's posts
They are taken straight from these very threads. If they are shitposts then so is this thread.
This is hilarious. You can't even distinguish your feared redditors from your very own posts.
The worst part is the lowest quality posts didn't come from reddit.

>>139016138
>挟む
>狭む

>>139021639
>>139021393
Reddit shit.

>>139021639
no one gives a fuck dude keep dancing muppet

>>139016138
>痔

lol I just saw this used in actual writing for the first time. I though it was a gag kanji.

>>139021639
No, you thick-skulled vermin. They are shitposts because they're not legitimate questions. He's literally shitting up the thread.

Reminder to continue reporting his posts.

>>139016138
>all words I mined today are kana
When will this shit end

>>139021695
>He's
You should have said "you're".

>>139016138
Can anyone post examples of run-on sentences in Japanese? Like something you would find in a VN or so.

>>139021662
Use something like the heisig method for these.

>>139021717
Read the thread.

>>139016138
How do you people learn kanji?
I tried a kanji deck and had a hard time remembering them with no good context for them
I tried RTK, it had no readings so I dropped it
I tried core6k, I felt like I only really learned the words and general shape of the kanji and would keep confusing similiar looking ones

>>139016138
Who here /learning Japanese just because they have yellow fever and wanna fuck some Japanese bitches/?

Disclaimer: I'm not shitposter-kun. With that out of the way, why are certain words from the core2k/6k deck written in kana when they have corresponding kanji? For example, 所.

been sick for two days and counting and skilling my reps
what memes did I miss?

>>139021759
出来ない

>>139021791
Because they have less literal usages that are often written without kanji. For ところ it's for example when it doesn't refer to a physical place, but the current state of some action.

Someone help me understand what the difference between 状況 and 状態 is. So far they seem interchangeable to me.

What is a good way to type Japanese easily? Would help me a lot. Right now I am just using google translate to turn romaji to hiragana. Is there a better way?

>>139021759
I did core 6k, started reading regularly, used heisig for a while and then dropped it. Since finishing 6k I've been doing mined decks and reading. I think Heisig's story thing is useful but it just wastes so much time. I would probably recommend looking up the heisig number on kanji you confuse and then going backwards through the elements they are made up of instead of going through the whole sequence.

He stopped responding to OP.

Is there a term coined for the japanese typical fake praise?

>>139021836
Thanks, anon. Would you also happen to know if core2k/6k also contains the kanji for those words, or do I need to learn them through other means?

>>139021902
In japan it's just called praise.

First day on fish oil, my new card have went back up from 10 to 50 at around 1000 seen in the deck. The fish oil tastes kind of bad, but this post is to let people know that fish oil is an alternative to look into if you can't seem to study well anymore.

Will I learn kana faster if you associate them with mnemonics??? Or does it not make any difference?

>>139021902
お世辞

Has anyone here ordered from denshi-jisho.com ?

I placed an order nearly two weeks ago, they took the money and said they'll send a mail when the product ships. And then nothing. May have to take some actions. Just curious if anyone here has actually ordered and received a product from them.

>>139021421
>have N2
>play final fantasy xiii
> falci luci cieth bodhum sanctum
>motherfucker this is hard
>give up
>play the english version instead

people of bodhum were hunted by sanctum for contacting falci. falci is turning people into lucie who have focus, and if lucie fail their focus they will turn into cieth.

>Fuck FF13
>throw my controller
>sold my playstation

>>139021932
>>139021962
You're failing.

Having a problem with Anki here. How can I make it so that not all the decks have the same font settings?

This thread is like a weird time capsule.

why do I feel like I'm not making alot of progress? The anki grind feels numbing and reading so slow at vn takes away from the experience. What do i do?

>私は散歩以外にも毎日軽い運動をしている
This is from doijg. But isn't the も at the wrong place? Shouldn't it be
>私は散歩以外に毎日軽い運動もしている
?

>I don't like that this thread is shitty
>I will make this thread even more shitty, that oughta show them!
Solid reasoning there, m80. You don't look like an autist having a fit at all!

Quick question with this sentence

起きれない子供を持つお母さんにインタビューしてみました

Is there some implication by using を持つ rather than a の. I mean the way former makes sense, I just know if I were to produce a similar sentence I would use の. Context is a tv show announcer talking about what happened on the last episode of the documentary

>spent 4 hours studying
>spent 5 hours masturbating

Fuck
Is there a way to deactivate my libido? I don't need it.

>>139021932
this man is called jamal

>>139022001
jamal knows a lot more about japanese language and culture than you do
he just doesn't flaunt the fact that he knows his things and instead write short responses laced with what seems to be irony, but some of what he's saying is actually true

jamal, くわばらくわばら

Any comments on where can I learn morphology?

>>139022035
I take it you've finished Tae Kim? Just read whatever you like then.

How the fuck do you differentiate between transitive and intransitive verbs?

This is honestly the most confusing aspect of Japanese for me.

Fuck off and run out of IPs already.

why do i get downvoted on reddit when i say there's litterally 0 reason to learn how to write?

Do those faggots live in the 1960s?

>start talking to this girl on hellotalk
>asks what kind of people I usually talk to
>asks if its young girls
>it is
>あなたの日本語は若い女っぽい
fuck

>>139016138
Excuse me DJT-Squad, but I have a question.
I found the series Kanojo wa Rokurokubi (彼女はろくろ首, 그녀는 로쿠로쿠비) and the scanlators call it "The Long-Necked Girl", but shouldn't it rather be something like "She/The Girl(friend) is a Rokurokubi"?

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This fucking thread man.

>>139022174
>not knowing how to write
how do you even begin to learn any of the characters?

only way i ever could keep track of what lines and loop de loops meant were how to draw them by hand

>>139022118
4chan is an 18+ website

>>139022155

>>139022167
To be honest I'm actually a little bit inclined to answer several of his copypaste, just to see how many theories I still remember in my head and are able to concisely explain about it without consulting google or some shit.

>>139016138
Does weed help Japanese studying?
I want to completely get rid of every single social life on the internet.
I already don't have any in real life

this is what you get for bullying tbqh

>>139022155
READ

>>139016138
Is there a particular reason why the interface of the CoR is completely in japanese? You're pretty much forcing an EOP seeking help to use a a bloated mainstream browser that probably spies on him.

>>139022239
>the bully thinks he's the one being bullied
okay

>>139022198
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/128987335/#128987515
>>139022239
A bully getting railed on for being retarded should rightfully result in them literally destroying the entire thread?

>go away for 4 days
>dont have time to do my reps
>too scared to check them

>>139022179
Better hope she didn't report you to the FBI.

>>139022155
everyones treating this like a shitpost but can someone answer it for me pls?

Do you guys use any add-ons for anki?
Anyone i should check out?

>>139022291
>>dont have time to do my reps
You mean "don't have time to learn Japanese". 出来ない

>>139016138
Is the construction "<masu stem>もする" grammatical? I saw it used supposedly to mean "Even did <verb>", but I'm not sure I have ever seen that construction before. For example

日本語が難しくて、諦めようと思いもする

その期待に応えられるだろうか、という不安で、プレッシャーを感じもする

The second one is the one I actually came across.

>>139022280
>>139022258
no, but it's hardly the first time I've seen a new learner be treated like an idiot on here, even off the threads

it's bound to come back eventually

>>139022202
i think i made that dude crack judging by >>139022118

also jamalっていうな

>>139016138
>RTK lessons consistently have 15-35 kanji for a while
>suddenly, a lesson with over 90 kanji
Heisig, why?

>>139022257
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/128987335/#129005355
>>139022291
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/128987335/#129020162
>>139022318
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/128987335/#129021266
>>139022330
Kill yourself.
>>139022338
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/128987335/#129027650
>>139022341
This isn't a new learner being treated like an idiot. This is someone flooding because they're mad that everyone hates them.

>>139022280
Well here's the thing. We rightfully don't answer his questions because it's trolling, but he will use this thread as a further evidence that djt shouldn't exist.

We are in a no win situation with him and from his POV.

>>139022318
I will answer some of them, just wait there okay?

>>139022344
>>139022118
>>139021932
Stop talking to yourself

>>139016138
What is the term for "compound verbs", stem + verb, for example 燃え付く、取り出す、取り切る

What does みたい mean in phrases like "子ども　みたい" or "ならって　みたい”?

Apparently DJT is supposed to exist solely as a question and answer forum?

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>>139022395
you got issues legit home boy

>a 5 year old knows japanese better then you ever will.

Why live?

wow so this has crashed and burned

I need help and will ask tomorrow

You know if imabi fixed fixed his site more people would use it
The things a mess

>>139022434
Can these fucking baits get any dumber? Holy shit mate.

Does anyone have experience with japanese graded readers? Are they worth trying?

>>139022313
Generally they have different okurigana, but there are a few exceptions, so there's no hard rule. Just become more familiar with the language, like one anon already told you: READ.

>one year into vocabulary grind
>still so many unknown words
O-only two more years to go!

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>>139022455
Who do you think you're talking to?

>been talking with cute socially awkward girl from HelloTalk for like 3 months
>getting increasingly attached to me and uses me as emotional support
>starting to be a pain having to message her every day because if I don't she gets anxious and thinks I hate her
>start uni in a month and will be busy as fuck with life and studies

What would you do?

>>139016138
How can I tell whether the writer intends to use 「うち」　or 「いえ」 with the kanji 家？

The meanings are the same, are they not?

>>139022179
what did she say?

>>139016138
What IME to you guys use on your cell phones? Google IME is ass because it makes it a pain to type in English (no qwerty English keyboard if you want to type Japanese using a flick keyboard)

Shimeji seems okay.

>>139022613
>responding

does it take more time to learn kanji or does it take more time to learn grammar

>>139022628
I don't know any of these, all of these are new posts to me

>>139022650
Just go to bed and wait till he gets bored

>>139022564
are you still mad about the end of the last thread is that what finally drove you over the edge

Post the music album(s) you play in the background grinding with anki...

Here's mine for starters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCV6-dhlIiY

The above really helps me become alert yet calm at the same time (like drinking green tea)... especially when I do 500 in one seating.

How is memorizing kanji supposed to work?

Do you just look at it until you go "oh it's that one?" what are you supposed to associate the kanji with

>>139022640
Depends what you actually mean by this.

You will never know all of the kanji or every single grammar point.

>>139022660
mfw I'm the guy who's dated to defy him every few threads and I haven't even been here for several days and this happens

>>139022614
I'm using Wnn simply because it seems the most responsive.
But I rarely ever use my phone for anything, even english texting so I'm not really the best person to give a review

>reach 2k words in core 6k deck
>so sick of anki I'm just gonna stop new cards here
I'll still do the reps I guess, maybe start adding new words again later

He's currently pulling posts from this thread, from July.
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/127874473/

Where were you guys in July? Have you made a lot of progress since then?

>>139022665
>rap
You serious? Ambient/drone or bust.

Is there anyone here with a lot of experience who's just tried reading with no Anki? How did it go? I know there's a few people here who are a hell of a lot better than I am and they still use Anki, but I was wondering how the different styles compared.

>>139022665
自殺しなさい

>>139022660
4chan is an 18+ website

>>139022665
I don't listen to music while doing my anki reps because that's stupid.

Serious question: what's the point of RTK if you don't actually learn how to write out the radicals?

>>139016138
Learning songs a good way to learn Japanese? I mean, obviously as a supplement.

There's so many beautiful songs. I just wanna learn the vocabulary so I can sing them and feel their power!

Man, sometimes I sit back and realize how great it is not to be autistic.

I was literally the worst student a teacher could possibly have. Loud, obnoxious, never showed up to class, always had the best grades in class despite never doing homework or taking notes.

I've never once had a teacher hate me to the point they failed me intentionally.

You people must be the worst scum imaginable.

>>139022027
I'm actually enjoying it, it's quite nostalgic to see all these old posts I remember from a while back.
ありがとうね、シットポストくんｗ
楽しかったｗ

you should all give up and try learning korean instead. it's easier

>>139022787
残酷な天使のように
少年よ神話になれ

Anyone else think that it feels easier to practice with things that aren't fun?

I can spend hours reading/listening to those more intermediate and advanced Nihongonomori grammar lessons where the lessons are all in Japanese and there are no English subtitles, but it's hard for me to stop my mind from wandering when I try to read a VN or some manga.

As long as everything feels like a chore then I can stay focused because it feels like I'm studying, but as soon as that line between studying and fun begins to blur then my mind switches to free-time lazy mode as if I was taking a break and playing a video game for fun and not for studying.

I dread the day that I finish all of these lessons and I have to switch to fun things. My progress will probably die.

I wonder if the Japanese people on the English equivalent of DJT read books like this and argue about what it means.

>Ef it wuz HIM dat 'uz bein' sot free

>Ef - (Old Saxon conjuction) 1. If, when
>Wuz - (South Scots) simple past tense of be
>Dat - Representing a colloquial pronunciation of that, likely from African American vernacular.
>Uz or Oghuz Turks, a group of loosely linked nomadic Turkic peoples
>Bein (genitive Beins or Beines, plural Beine) - leg of a person, animal or object
>From Middle English sot, from Old English sot, sott (“foolish, stupid”)

>"You retards are never going to learn English if you can't understand context. It's obvious that Tom Sawyer is cleverly utilizing context and a mixture of Old Saxon dialect, South Scottish dialect, African American vernacular, and Old English to tell Huckleberry that he will be the fool when the leg of the nomadic Oghuz Turks is free. He may metaphorically referring to a possible Turkish invasion of the Mississippi River that will happen in a later chapter."

Fuck I haven't done anything Japanese-related in a while

After writing every kanji radical 50 times what am I supposed to do then

>>139022813
Your post has nothing to do with autism. It's not a synonym for stupid you know. There are plenty of autists with incredibly high intelligence.

>>139022813
>mfw this was literally a response to my own post

>>139016138
For epubs, what readers do you guys use? I have the extension "epubreader" for Firefox but Rikai doesn't seem to work in it. What gives?

>>139022864
Yes. Personally I found a good balance in reading 2ch/futaba threads.
Half the time I don't know what's going on so I can just focus on the technical aspects of grammar or vocab, but it's still somewhat engaging at the same time.

where can I download visual novels?

>>139022728
july 2k15, the sunny beaches of malibu, a time before i met this helpless looking girl that i just cant leave alone

名前ってさ
たしかdjtと呼ぶんだ

does anki really work
sometimes i think its just memes

>>139022910
You already know the answer to that question, quit procrastinating and start learning.

How do chinese type Kanji without kana?

YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the answers.

>>139020502
Answered by >>139020680

>>139020555
You can use いいながら or いうのに

>>139020577
か here is a question. が is a different particle, normally used to emphasize something.

>>139020601
覚えられません is used because られる form can mean passive voice or potential form. Yes the sentence you quoted also make sense.

>>139020631
I think しるされ

>>139020662
か is modifying 始める and the whole clause is talking about 場所

>>139020689
Because of how まで is used in japanese.

>>139020710
Answered by >>139020775

>>139020734
Answered by >>139020775

>>139020765
Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. I never really experienced what you asked here so I never paid attention to の rules in regard to nouns combination.
With and without の is just different because of what の means when used when.

>>139020781
Answered by >>139020837

>>139020816
>どの作品にも良さがあります
どのnounにもVがある means "For every noun there is/are V"
>スポーツは見るのは好きなんですが。。。
が in the sentence means "but"

>>139020839
I don't know. Some foods?

>>139020900
する is "do". 引っ越し is a noun, adding する makes it a verb if you add を in between. People just use 引っ越す though.

>>139020919
ために for the purpose of
ておきます do something and express that it's done for something that has something do with the future.

>>139020961
Didn't you ask this already in previous posts? I think you did. か is modifying 何歳. You can not not use か on your example.

>>139020987
I don't know how to explain it myself without consulting books. The uses differ though. ああそういうことか。知らなかった。You can't use 知らずhere.
知らず知らずに質問がたまっていてdjtのみんなをむかつかせるようです。
You can't use 知らなかった知らなかったに there.

>>139023026
Your life is just memes.

ものべの too difficult for a first VN in Jap?

>>139023026
Japanese is a meme

>>139016138
Does /djt/ watch any japanese youtube channels?

>>139016138
値段が高いレストランはあまり好きじゃない

Why is a が needed between 値段 and 高い?
Can't one write: 高い値段レストラン?

Also, where can I find some examples that show how to use particles, adjectives and verbs? The が in particular is killing me.
I just started grammar, sorry for the noob questions

Does Anki really work?

>>139023134
>Can't one write: 高い値段レストラン?

No.

>>139021526
Fuck off

>>139023134
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/135356534/#q135356991

>>139023082
Yes.

How much is 一泊万億 in Arabic numbers?

Why are there so many people linking the OP to ask general questions to anyone?

Is this just one guy asking a while shitload of questions?

>>139023216
It's one guy copy pasting old posts from desustorage and reddit. He's not always quoting the OP, by the way.

Is there any good place to talk about VNs?

Did you learn more than you forgot today /djt/?

>>139023240
Yes, but you're not welcome to talk about learning Japanese there. Keep that it mind, please.

How long does it usually take to do J-Cat?

>>139023236
Is this what happens to DJT users when they realize they can't learn Japanese? They try to take the whole thread down with them?

Would you guys recommend Japanese the manga way?

>>139023291
No he just got wrecked really fucking hard after trying to impose himself on the thread for months on end.

>the only post that got deleted is "Who /v/ here?"
>not this spam
It's a janitor. We're literally getting flooded by a janitor.

>思い人
>想い人

Reading an LN at the moment. Should I make cards with the unknown vocab in the front, or cards with the sentence itself on the front and vocab & meaning on back?

In terms of general reading difficulty is it
Manga<VN=web novel=jrpg<LN?

http://jp.morpheem.com/

This site is interesting, it rates me as knowing about 7,000 words which I think is roughly correct. It also has some SRS system ala anki, but with example sentences. Worth taking a look at.

>>139023197
Not necessarily, if by first VN he means he's read a large number of LNs/manga it's fine.

>>139023435
The fuck anyone knows? You can find stuff of various difficulties across all mediums.

How do i stop confusing 動 and 勤?

PART II of the answer series

YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the answers.

>>139021034
Answered by >>139021164 >>139021441

>>139021068
あげるくれる give
もらう receive, or more like, have a thing done by a person
> I'm very confused by this grammar point
It's not an easy subject, just take it slow on this.

>>139021117
Don't know if you are the person asking all these questions or a third party, but feel free to say that I answer these questions based on your "hypothesis"
>people will benefit from answers and explanations

>>139021156
No it's not. Questions are questions, quality of questions doesn't matter at all. What matter is the efforts of wanting to understand. Study progress is a personal thing.

>>139021185
That's what I just said above.
>What matter is efforts of wanting to understand.
I dislike lazy people that don't even bother reading the guide too.

>>139021255
Don't ignore the 行かすわけには and 行かされるわけには post that is located right in the middle of your image. That is an on-topic post.

>>139021272
What kind of question is this. This is what I refer to "lazypeople that don't read the guide".
It's up to you and whether or not you think you'd need it.

>>139021291
I don't use it. If it does glitched, just delete it and use other deck.

>>139021308
This is a no-effort question no real japanese learners would ever asked in the first place, so this doesn't warrant an answer.

>>139021378
Try it out yourself. How do you know your level is around N3 N2 in the first place anyway.

>>139021410
I think... I think I personally answered this exact question on the exact thread you took it from, so I'm not going to answer this "copy-paste" question.

>>139021426
It's a dictionary. Use it or don't.

>>139021455
Okay, good.

>>139021477
Answered >>139021528

>>139021512
What dictionary suggested.

>>139021526
FFXIIIはクリアしなかった。シェアメイトのプレステだったから。

Holy shit all kanji look the fucking same.
Is there no trick to it? Is it really just a case of grinding till you get it?

>>139016138
>普通の人に異常を肯定してもらって
>一緒にやましいことしたいわよね
>そうなれたら
>夢みたいですてき
Is the 3rd line 慣れる? Otherwise I can't understand why it would be すてき.

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>>139023496
Cool site.

Somehow I doubt the accuracy of the test. The senteces felt very easy to me, so I think it overrates me.

Someone post a bunch of cute Japanese girls so that I can feel like I have a cute gf.

>>139016138
Quick question

If I wanted to form an object "warm winter"

As I understand it, I would I say 暖かい冬

Correct?

Fucking useless mods. Do your motherfucking job.

When you install VNs, what's the difference between .mdf and .mds files? I think I've tried both and they both install the game

>>139023302
It's a good resource. There are certainly some negatives, like the lack of audio accompaniment and the use of roumaji throughout but its a great asset for grammar and it does a good job of explaining things clearly and concisely.

>>139023683
Or just 暖冬.

But that isn't any sort of rule, this kango just exists.

>>139023688
>Do your motherfucking job.
Removing on topic posts?

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This thread is really messing with my head. I can remember reading all of these old posts. It is like a massive case of deja vu.

>>139023594
Do a radical study.

>>139023704
Perhaps don't be clueless and just google such questions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Descriptor_File

>>139023725
On topic spam is still spam.

>>139023725
Do you vomit when you see your fat, chubby face in the morning?

Why is に sometimes used in between a few things that are just being listed like two people named Ayumi and Miko
アユミに実子- like that? Can't find anything about it in the DoJG.

>>139023757
He doesn't like DJT and thinks if he spams enough the mods will remove it. He's spamming this thread now with posts from old DJT threads.

Will I become a 日本の侍です is I do my reps everyday?

>>139023757
I'll do a summary for you once i get home

>>139023761
"with"
"and"
"together with"

>>139016138
Did anyone end up finding raw subs for Card Captor Sakura?

PART III of the answer series

YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the answers (and a few legitimate questions).

>>139021599
>Will Core decks also teach me Conjugated Kanji?
I don't know what you meant sorry.

>>139021639
Answered all your questions so far.

>>139021680
Good.

>>139021699
>When will this shit end
Since you are the one partially responsible for this, only you know the answer.

>>139021715
I don't know what run-on sentences mean.

>>139021759
By studying. Also answered by >>139021885

>>139021785
>Who here /learning Japanese just because they have yellow fever and wanna fuck some Japanese bitches/?
Isn't this the EXACT OFF-TOPICNESS you hated for IN THE FIRST PLACE?

The irony is thick in this post.

>>139021791
ひらがな is original japanese alphabets so words like 余り while they do have kanji, it was in ひらがな to begin with.
There are some general reasons as well on why and when japanese decides to use kanji, katakana, and hiragana for words. You can look it up on google, maybe it's there.

>>139021846
Use J-J dictionary.
状況
時とともに変化する物事の，その時，その時のありさま，ようす。
状態
変化する物事の，その時その時の様子。「静止した―で測る」「生活―」「健康―」

>>139021874
With japanese keyboard.

>>139021934
Now the fish oil guy makes a comeback.

>>139022155
transitive is done by someone.
intransitive no one is actively doing it. 自動詞 他動詞 easier to remember for you?

>>139022198
Ask the scanlators why they translated it that way. は function is to point out a topic, here the topic is 彼女.

>>139022257
I don't know why it's in japanese nor do I care enough about it.

>>139022338
も also.

>>139022364
Ask Heisig. You are slipping anon, while this question is not strictly off-topic, it doesn't warrant an answer and YOU HAVE NOW CONTRIBUTE to POLLUTING the THREAD too.

>>139023820
Autism has proven itself to be the scourge of this site once again as a single autist who doesn't like the thread spams 50 imitations of it, ban evades, accuses others of making them, then makes threads on qa to rally anti general fags, lies and bullshits his way through everything. Now he attempts to make the thread unuseable by spamming it with retarded questions in order to mix them with legitimate questions. Does his autism know no bounds? Only time can tell.

Question:

Is it possible to get a job with a major in Japanese? I mean, what jobs are there for someone who knows Japanese?

I learned all the radicals a couple of months back and just realised I only learned what they mean in English like 言 is speech. Should I learn them all in hiragana or will I pick it up as I go?

So if I want to say I like doing things like watching movies and reading manga, would this be correct?
映画を見たり漫画を読んだりするのが好きです

Does anyone know of any online resources for pronunciations in Kansai (京阪式) intonation? Something like a dictionary that lists the pronunciations on each mora, like how normal dictionaries list a number for where the pitch falls in the Tokyo accent.

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>>139023664
Well shit, I gues it fits, since I did a second test, sentences felt harder, but the result is this.

When is 成る used, if ever instead of the kana なる? Similarly, what about 良い、or 在る or 有る for example?

>>139024001
映画と漫画が好きだ。

But I understand your sentiment.

Is there any real difference between 書物,本 and 図書?

>>139023870
>ひらがな is original japanese alphabets so words like 余り while they do have kanji, it was in ひらがな to begin with.
This is simply not true.

>>139024052
>成る
In more serious texts.

>良い
In more serious texts, or when you specifically want to point out you mean よい with the nuance of 良い as opposed to other よい.

>有る
>在る
In more serious texts, or when you want to point out the difference,

>>139024048
Is the information there about an average young 19 year old native knowing 20k words accurate?

>>139024112
I don't think Japanese graduate college at 19, friend.

Decided to finally start Anki, and I need some first few kanji to get a start. Besides numbers, which should I choose?

I have been taking the Rosetta Stone Japanese course, and I have a grammar question. I know that ぼく is a first-person pronoun that is used only by men and is slightly informal compared to 私. Can a man refer to himself and any number of women as ぼくたちは? Does the group decide whether you can use ぼくたち or the speaker?

>>139024048
How many words do you have in anki

>>139024175
Never used it.

Is there any difference
AはBと似ている
and
AはBに似ている

Or is using に grammatically incorrect?

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YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the answers.

>>139022399
I don't know. Maybe somebody does.

>>139022434
It's "like". こどもみたい Like a child".

>>139022588
The meanings are not the same, and you will understand it plenty with context. うち is I, いえ is house or something.

>>139022614
I just used the default one that came with my phone.

>>139022695
>Do you just look at it until you go "oh it's that one?"
Yes.

>>139022640
Answered by >>139022697

>>139022745
Don't know.

>>139022766
It's useful for some people, that's the point. If you don't see the point, then it's not for you. I assumed the original poster of this question read RTK before asking this question and before you, today, copypasted it here.

>>139022787
Sure, whatever method you like.

>>139022940
I just use OCR software.

>>139023105
I do but very few channel.

>>139023134
が emphasizes something while は points out the topic. That said, I can't exactly answer your question why が is needed here.
Maybe because 高い is modifying 値段 and 値段が高い is a phrase modifying restaurant?

>>139023216
>Why are there so many people linking the OP
>Is this just one?
Mostly yeah it's one guy.

>>139023372
Up to you.

>>139023635
Yes

>>139024025
There's one in website in the guide somewhere that said that.

>>139023982
I don't know, try it out.

>>139024001
It's good enough. Japanese people will understand you.

>>139024052
Answered by >>139024097

>>139024094
Sure. Elaborate the history if you want to correct me. I'm doing this to see how far can I explain without resorting to books.
I'm aware that I'm not entirely correct in that particular answer, and really, feel free to correct me with the history of the alphabets. I'm not going to open my kanji book and read japanese alphabets origin in it and type it for him.

>>139024130
A Core Deck in the guide.

>>139024159
たち is how japanese language pluralize something.

>>139016138
>考え
idea; notion; imagination
>思想
thought; idea; ideology

Fuck

>>139024248
>idea
>thought
>notion

Fuck.

At what level in WaniKani did you start playing VNs?

Why is there Katakana if you actually could write foreign words with Hiragana?

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>>139024201
I'd like to know the answer to this question too.

>>139024248
Not a question.

>>139024283
I don't use it, I don't know.


There, I caught up to you at the end of the thread. I quoted and answered most of your questions. Feels good to review some things sometimes.

I'm out now, enjoy shitting on the thread anon. I'm done consciously replying to your questions on djt.

I hope you find it in you to seek professional help.

Ciao.

I know that to say you pretend to do a verb you just use it's plain form plus ふりをする. But what if you wanted to say you pretended to do a する verb, like study? Since I don't think you can use する twice in the same sentence. 勉強するふりをする?

>>139024313
My god you're fucking autistic.

>>139024332
勉強しているふりをする

>>139024351
You're the autist copy and pasting all these posts.