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>tfw finally finished Tae Kim and Core2k
Well, guys, I guess this is it. These past 2 years have been nice and I'm grateful to you all, but now that I'm fluent in Nihongo (Japanese), I don't have any reason to frequent DJT anymore.
See you space cowboys...
As long as you never give up and you keep pushing to better yourself, you'll make it no matter what. You CAN learn Japanese!
You work hard and you have expectations. So I'm living my expectations right now.
I always thought it was funny how people in our culture like to use curse words so casually in everyday life (usually because they think it's cool)
that when the time comes to emphasize something they find they have nothing available to them to signify "now I really mean it" so they just come up with increasingly unique/aggressive ways to say the same thing.
Studies show people who curse more often are emotionally stronger than those who don't.
Enjoy being a crybaby pussy, bitch.
Is there any way to make anki automatically mark your card wrong and show you the answer after a certain time has elapsed? So as to avoid staring at a card for 30 seconds when it's obvious you don't know it.
>cursing means you're emotionally tough
This is interesting because I've always been regarded as well-spoken and intelligent by my peers but I fucking swear all the time; even when explaining something complex and technical and even during formal meetings.
I also live alone and haven't had a girlfriend since I was in high school. I don't socialize offline at all. I am steadfast in all that I do, and I'm not bouncing off the walls.
You can say 「僕は君を行かすわけにはいかない」 (I won't/can't let you go), but you cannot say 「僕は君を行かされるわけにはいかない」 because you have to replace 「を」 particle with 「に」 to be grammatically correct. But this changes the meaning to "I cannot be made to go by you" (「僕は君に行かされるわけにはいかない」). This expression is pretty awkward even if it's grammatically correct.
You are the one who flip the sentence by giving out one example of 僕は君を行かす and flip it to 僕は君に行かされる.
That's never what I said in the first place.
I'm saying something like あなたに学校を行かさない and 私に学校を行かされない
Anyone know who the guy is that the news in Japan is going crazy about, the guy who cheated on his wife with 5 different women.
Why is cheating so weird in Japan, they just get forgiven and with a public apology and then everything is fine.
I assume the religious differences mean they aren't so focused on infidelity and the cultural differences like they used to be able to have more than one wife.
even in this apology notice on his website, his wife apologies to everyone because "as a wife I am responsible".
Surely she doesn't need to apologise for her husbands conduct.
in mine? you shouldnt put it there
your sentence is actually fubar and needs completely rewritten if you want to use 頑張る somewhere
another example to i guess get your sentiment across with trying to use 頑張る
you can throw your excess にs into that one
does anyone have this and could seed?
I would like some japanese picture books, but this seems dead despite being from 2012
thought about asking /jp/ but figure id ask here first in case someone still has it and could reupload
Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone could do me a solid and translate this, I figured this would be the best place to go. It does contain spoilers for Dark Souls 3, and if this isn't the right place you can refer me somewhere else I guess and I will delete this post. Thanks in /a/dvance.
I work 45+ hours a week, spend off time fulfilling obligations/housework and spending time with my wife and family, and only get a quiet couple hours to myself every week, which I use to learn sign language as a hobby.
Speaking of 王begginer question, which one would you use to pronounce 王?
おう or おおきみ
Having a little trouble with the following:
It comes from this:
Does Verb + なかで, X, mean that X is occuring within the timespan of the verb? How is this different from 間？At the point 追い詰められ, isn't the subject still 捜査当局? Because it's in passive form, doesn't this mean that 捜査当局 themselves have been driven into a corner or tracked down? I know that with context I can tell that it's the opposite situation but I would like clarification about the grammar.
Can ながら and のに be used interchangeably to emphasize that two clauses are opposite in meaning? For example, in this sentence from All About Particles, it looks like you could use either and it would have the same meaning
>Although Takagi says he is in poor health, he often drinks late into the night.
Or am I just missing some subtle difference?
The following sentence is in the Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar
I haven't really studied how passive is used, however the the dictionary says a common characteristic of the Japanese passive is that the event is not under the control of those affected by it. Is that why it's used here? Does the sentence make sense without the passive?
か = whether or not
If you just look at
it's clear that 男 is the one getting 追い詰められ
The verb performed by 捜査当局は is とみて、操作を勧めています
In respect to the word 韓国学校, according to Jisho 韓国 is either a noun or no - adjective. So why isn't it 韓国の学校? My overall question is when can I combine nouns without using の? Is there maybe some kind of rule?
Can someone check my translations?
The movie the man made was filled/overflowing with affection. Just a quick question - is the underlying meaning here that the affection the man put into the movie was overflowing/easy too see?
Don't say those kind of unreasonable things.
I'm having a bit of trouble with this one - if someone could give a translation with maybe an explanation on the どの and にも that would be great!
So you like watching sports...
The seriousness of the person who wrote this letter is expressed in it.
3 hours ago this dude was like man i have the perfect plan to destroy them and then spent the last 3 hours compiling this shit question list whilst cackling maniacally and now the poops are raining down
i sorta like it but tryhard non improv shit is for lamers
One color and Elina is heading to D venue, while Alice is not to like to say I hate to Nakamura-kun declaration
Kusunoki-kun is clutter call to Nakamura-kun, end to appeal-out masses Alice in Erina
I don't really know why I stumbled across this, and it's probably still ahead of what I am learning currently, but my understanding is that this can be used to say you did not do something. For example, 知らなかった and 知らず translate to roughly the same thing, right? Japanese keyboards seem to recognize it as a valid sentence, but I'm sort of reluctant to use it because I don't know exactly what it means. Translators also seem widely inconsistent when I try different verbs such as 分からず、寝ず、etc.
TL;DR: What is the difference between なかった and ず verb ending?
Still trying to understand the NHK News, but I encountered a sentence which is giving me some trouble and I have an inclination - but cannot resolve part of it.
The sentence is: このため自衛隊は部隊の展開を進めていて、ＰＡＣ３のほかに、高性能レーダーを備えた海上自衛隊のイージス艦を日本の周辺海域に派遣するなどして北朝鮮に"動きがないか"警戒することにしています。
I understood everything else without issue, but I am wondering if my inclination is correct. The final clause seems to say: "(The JSDF) ...will be vigilant even if there there is no action by North Korea." The weird part is the non-movement matter with the ka particle which I think can be translated as "If there is no movement". It makes sense, militarily, but is the focus on the JSDF watching the North Korea's (continued) non-movement with vigilance (from now) or despite the non-movement (of the past week)?
Also, this article is N2-level right? The only weird words were "破壊措置命令", "周辺海域" and the "迎撃" part of 迎撃ミサイル besides my confusion stemming from the rather complex sentence.
How do you know when to use てもらう or てくれる? I'm very confused by this grammar point. I don't really know when to use くれる or もらう either.
In this case why is もらう used instead of くれる？ I'm very confused by this example. I was taught the when the speaker is the topic we use くれる the speaker is the topic but the opposite is used.
>because people will think there's someone to help
Yes, because the only people who ever benefit from answers and explanations are the people who ask the questions.
Good to see the regulars freaking out when actual on-topic content is being posted.
If you're the reddit spammer, kill yourself. If you're the retard feeding the troll, fuck off and stop feeding the troll. If you're a third party, kill yourself for getting involved.
>The following questions are exceedingly low quality.
As opposed to pic related.
Report the following posts. It's a spammer and samefag. He's moved from spamming threads to shitting up this thread by copy pasting things from reddit, then from the archive.
There are more but I'm bored and want to go to bed.
I've been trying to learn without doing kanji study, trying to pick kanji up just through vocab but I've noticed I get similar characters confused regularly, and I'd also like to be able to write.
The idea of learning readings with kanji instead of through vocab seems like a waste of time, which has lead me towards RTK, but I've heard a lot of negative thoughts towards RTK as well. What should I do /djt/?
What's with everyone riding the DOJG dick now? Just a year ago people were hating on DOJG because it was too technical. /djt/ is just full of the biggest get fluent quick bandwagoners.
>will be vigilant even if there there is no action by North Korea
"will be vigilant if there is any action by NK"
It's a "whether A or not" clause. It doesn't logically matter whether it's a negative or positive. In Japanese, a negative is often used.
I just woke up and did my reps. Feels fucking great.
I used to be really hung up on mining my new daily cards on the same day I do them, since it gives me a chance to remember them when they pop up in Anki after reading them. But when you have to mine your words before doing your reps, it's too easy to put it off. By the time I've mined my words and can do my reps, it's so late that I'm tired and the words barely stick anymore.
Just mining everything you might need to review whenever you read anything is definitely the best way to go. Even if you end up with 200+ new cards that you'll have completely forgotten you added by the time you get them, it's totally worth it to be able to do your reps first time in the morning.
Read the thread. That person is copy pasting questions from reddit, though he stopped and is now copying them from the archive so that they're harder for people like you to search for.
So I just passed the 2k cards mark in core2k6. Got new voice actors which I don't mind but there aren't any pictures anymore.
Is it normal or is there something wrong with my collection.media folder?
Will Core decks also teach me Conjugated Kanji ?
I've just started last month got some basic grammar down and lots of kanji in but haven't started any core decks and so I'm a bit lost
>false flagger's posts
They are taken straight from these very threads. If they are shitposts then so is this thread.
This is hilarious. You can't even distinguish your feared redditors from your very own posts.
The worst part is the lowest quality posts didn't come from reddit.
How do you people learn kanji?
I tried a kanji deck and had a hard time remembering them with no good context for them
I tried RTK, it had no readings so I dropped it
I tried core6k, I felt like I only really learned the words and general shape of the kanji and would keep confusing similiar looking ones
Because they have less literal usages that are often written without kanji. For ところ it's for example when it doesn't refer to a physical place, but the current state of some action.
I did core 6k, started reading regularly, used heisig for a while and then dropped it. Since finishing 6k I've been doing mined decks and reading. I think Heisig's story thing is useful but it just wastes so much time. I would probably recommend looking up the heisig number on kanji you confuse and then going backwards through the elements they are made up of instead of going through the whole sequence.
First day on fish oil, my new card have went back up from 10 to 50 at around 1000 seen in the deck. The fish oil tastes kind of bad, but this post is to let people know that fish oil is an alternative to look into if you can't seem to study well anymore.
Has anyone here ordered from denshi-jisho.com ?
I placed an order nearly two weeks ago, they took the money and said they'll send a mail when the product ships. And then nothing. May have to take some actions. Just curious if anyone here has actually ordered and received a product from them.
>play final fantasy xiii
> falci luci cieth bodhum sanctum
>motherfucker this is hard
>play the english version instead
people of bodhum were hunted by sanctum for contacting falci. falci is turning people into lucie who have focus, and if lucie fail their focus they will turn into cieth.
>throw my controller
>sold my playstation
Quick question with this sentence
Is there some implication by using を持つ rather than a の. I mean the way former makes sense, I just know if I were to produce a similar sentence I would use の. Context is a tv show announcer talking about what happened on the last episode of the documentary
this man is called jamal
jamal knows a lot more about japanese language and culture than you do
he just doesn't flaunt the fact that he knows his things and instead write short responses laced with what seems to be irony, but some of what he's saying is actually true
Excuse me DJT-Squad, but I have a question.
I found the series Kanojo wa Rokurokubi (彼女はろくろ首, 그녀는 로쿠로쿠비) and the scanlators call it "The Long-Necked Girl", but shouldn't it rather be something like "She/The Girl(friend) is a Rokurokubi"?
>not knowing how to write
how do you even begin to learn any of the characters?
only way i ever could keep track of what lines and loop de loops meant were how to draw them by hand
To be honest I'm actually a little bit inclined to answer several of his copypaste, just to see how many theories I still remember in my head and are able to concisely explain about it without consulting google or some shit.
Is there a particular reason why the interface of the CoR is completely in japanese? You're pretty much forcing an EOP seeking help to use a a bloated mainstream browser that probably spies on him.
A bully getting railed on for being retarded should rightfully result in them literally destroying the entire thread?
Is the construction "<masu stem>もする" grammatical? I saw it used supposedly to mean "Even did <verb>", but I'm not sure I have ever seen that construction before. For example
The second one is the one I actually came across.
This isn't a new learner being treated like an idiot. This is someone flooding because they're mad that everyone hates them.
Well here's the thing. We rightfully don't answer his questions because it's trolling, but he will use this thread as a further evidence that djt shouldn't exist.
We are in a no win situation with him and from his POV.
I will answer some of them, just wait there okay?
Generally they have different okurigana, but there are a few exceptions, so there's no hard rule. Just become more familiar with the language, like one anon already told you: READ.
>been talking with cute socially awkward girl from HelloTalk for like 3 months
>getting increasingly attached to me and uses me as emotional support
>starting to be a pain having to message her every day because if I don't she gets anxious and thinks I hate her
>start uni in a month and will be busy as fuck with life and studies
What would you do?
What IME to you guys use on your cell phones? Google IME is ass because it makes it a pain to type in English (no qwerty English keyboard if you want to type Japanese using a flick keyboard)
Shimeji seems okay.
Post the music album(s) you play in the background grinding with anki...
Here's mine for starters
The above really helps me become alert yet calm at the same time (like drinking green tea)... especially when I do 500 in one seating.
Is there anyone here with a lot of experience who's just tried reading with no Anki? How did it go? I know there's a few people here who are a hell of a lot better than I am and they still use Anki, but I was wondering how the different styles compared.
Learning songs a good way to learn Japanese? I mean, obviously as a supplement.
There's so many beautiful songs. I just wanna learn the vocabulary so I can sing them and feel their power!
Man, sometimes I sit back and realize how great it is not to be autistic.
I was literally the worst student a teacher could possibly have. Loud, obnoxious, never showed up to class, always had the best grades in class despite never doing homework or taking notes.
I've never once had a teacher hate me to the point they failed me intentionally.
You people must be the worst scum imaginable.
Anyone else think that it feels easier to practice with things that aren't fun?
I can spend hours reading/listening to those more intermediate and advanced Nihongonomori grammar lessons where the lessons are all in Japanese and there are no English subtitles, but it's hard for me to stop my mind from wandering when I try to read a VN or some manga.
As long as everything feels like a chore then I can stay focused because it feels like I'm studying, but as soon as that line between studying and fun begins to blur then my mind switches to free-time lazy mode as if I was taking a break and playing a video game for fun and not for studying.
I dread the day that I finish all of these lessons and I have to switch to fun things. My progress will probably die.
I wonder if the Japanese people on the English equivalent of DJT read books like this and argue about what it means.
>Ef it wuz HIM dat 'uz bein' sot free
>Ef - (Old Saxon conjuction) 1. If, when
>Wuz - (South Scots) simple past tense of be
>Dat - Representing a colloquial pronunciation of that, likely from African American vernacular.
>Uz or Oghuz Turks, a group of loosely linked nomadic Turkic peoples
>Bein (genitive Beins or Beines, plural Beine) - leg of a person, animal or object
>From Middle English sot, from Old English sot, sott (“foolish, stupid”)
>"You retards are never going to learn English if you can't understand context. It's obvious that Tom Sawyer is cleverly utilizing context and a mixture of Old Saxon dialect, South Scottish dialect, African American vernacular, and Old English to tell Huckleberry that he will be the fool when the leg of the nomadic Oghuz Turks is free. He may metaphorically referring to a possible Turkish invasion of the Mississippi River that will happen in a later chapter."
Yes. Personally I found a good balance in reading 2ch/futaba threads.
Half the time I don't know what's going on so I can just focus on the technical aspects of grammar or vocab, but it's still somewhat engaging at the same time.
YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the answers.
Answered by >>139020680
You can use いいながら or いうのに
か here is a question. が is a different particle, normally used to emphasize something.
覚えられません is used because られる form can mean passive voice or potential form. Yes the sentence you quoted also make sense.
I think しるされ
か is modifying 始める and the whole clause is talking about 場所
Because of how まで is used in japanese.
Answered by >>139020775
Answered by >>139020775
Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. I never really experienced what you asked here so I never paid attention to の rules in regard to nouns combination.
With and without の is just different because of what の means when used when.
Answered by >>139020837
どのnounにもVがある means "For every noun there is/are V"
が in the sentence means "but"
I don't know. Some foods?
する is "do". 引っ越し is a noun, adding する makes it a verb if you add を in between. People just use 引っ越す though.
ために for the purpose of
ておきます do something and express that it's done for something that has something do with the future.
Didn't you ask this already in previous posts? I think you did. か is modifying 何歳. You can not not use か on your example.
I don't know how to explain it myself without consulting books. The uses differ though. ああそういうことか。知らなかった。You can't use 知らずhere.
You can't use 知らなかった知らなかったに there.
Why is a が needed between 値段 and 高い?
Can't one write: 高い値段レストラン?
Also, where can I find some examples that show how to use particles, adjectives and verbs? The が in particular is killing me.
I just started grammar, sorry for the noob questions
This site is interesting, it rates me as knowing about 7,000 words which I think is roughly correct. It also has some SRS system ala anki, but with example sentences. Worth taking a look at.
PART II of the answer series
YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the answers.
Answered by >>139021164 >>139021441
もらう receive, or more like, have a thing done by a person
> I'm very confused by this grammar point
It's not an easy subject, just take it slow on this.
Don't know if you are the person asking all these questions or a third party, but feel free to say that I answer these questions based on your "hypothesis"
>people will benefit from answers and explanations
No it's not. Questions are questions, quality of questions doesn't matter at all. What matter is the efforts of wanting to understand. Study progress is a personal thing.
That's what I just said above.
>What matter is efforts of wanting to understand.
I dislike lazy people that don't even bother reading the guide too.
Don't ignore the 行かすわけには and 行かされるわけには post that is located right in the middle of your image. That is an on-topic post.
What kind of question is this. This is what I refer to "lazypeople that don't read the guide".
It's up to you and whether or not you think you'd need it.
I don't use it. If it does glitched, just delete it and use other deck.
This is a no-effort question no real japanese learners would ever asked in the first place, so this doesn't warrant an answer.
Try it out yourself. How do you know your level is around N3 N2 in the first place anyway.
I think... I think I personally answered this exact question on the exact thread you took it from, so I'm not going to answer this "copy-paste" question.
It's a dictionary. Use it or don't.
What dictionary suggested.
Somehow I doubt the accuracy of the test. The senteces felt very easy to me, so I think it overrates me.
It's a good resource. There are certainly some negatives, like the lack of audio accompaniment and the use of roumaji throughout but its a great asset for grammar and it does a good job of explaining things clearly and concisely.
This thread is really messing with my head. I can remember reading all of these old posts. It is like a massive case of deja vu.
PART III of the answer series
YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the answers (and a few legitimate questions).
>Will Core decks also teach me Conjugated Kanji?
I don't know what you meant sorry.
Answered all your questions so far.
>When will this shit end
Since you are the one partially responsible for this, only you know the answer.
I don't know what run-on sentences mean.
By studying. Also answered by >>139021885
>Who here /learning Japanese just because they have yellow fever and wanna fuck some Japanese bitches/?
Isn't this the EXACT OFF-TOPICNESS you hated for IN THE FIRST PLACE?
The irony is thick in this post.
ひらがな is original japanese alphabets so words like 余り while they do have kanji, it was in ひらがな to begin with.
There are some general reasons as well on why and when japanese decides to use kanji, katakana, and hiragana for words. You can look it up on google, maybe it's there.
Use J-J dictionary.
With japanese keyboard.
Now the fish oil guy makes a comeback.
transitive is done by someone.
intransitive no one is actively doing it. 自動詞 他動詞 easier to remember for you?
Ask the scanlators why they translated it that way. は function is to point out a topic, here the topic is 彼女.
I don't know why it's in japanese nor do I care enough about it.
Ask Heisig. You are slipping anon, while this question is not strictly off-topic, it doesn't warrant an answer and YOU HAVE NOW CONTRIBUTE to POLLUTING the THREAD too.
Autism has proven itself to be the scourge of this site once again as a single autist who doesn't like the thread spams 50 imitations of it, ban evades, accuses others of making them, then makes threads on qa to rally anti general fags, lies and bullshits his way through everything. Now he attempts to make the thread unuseable by spamming it with retarded questions in order to mix them with legitimate questions. Does his autism know no bounds? Only time can tell.
I learned all the radicals a couple of months back and just realised I only learned what they mean in English like 言 is speech. Should I learn them all in hiragana or will I pick it up as I go?
Does anyone know of any online resources for pronunciations in Kansai (京阪式) intonation? Something like a dictionary that lists the pronunciations on each mora, like how normal dictionaries list a number for where the pitch falls in the Tokyo accent.
Well shit, I gues it fits, since I did a second test, sentences felt harder, but the result is this.
In more serious texts.
In more serious texts, or when you specifically want to point out you mean よい with the nuance of 良い as opposed to other よい.
In more serious texts, or when you want to point out the difference,
I have been taking the Rosetta Stone Japanese course, and I have a grammar question. I know that ぼく is a first-person pronoun that is used only by men and is slightly informal compared to 私. Can a man refer to himself and any number of women as ぼくたちは? Does the group decide whether you can use ぼくたち or the speaker?
PART IV of the answer series
YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the answers.
I don't know. Maybe somebody does.
It's "like". こどもみたい Like a child".
The meanings are not the same, and you will understand it plenty with context. うち is I, いえ is house or something.
I just used the default one that came with my phone.
>Do you just look at it until you go "oh it's that one?"
Answered by >>139022697
It's useful for some people, that's the point. If you don't see the point, then it's not for you. I assumed the original poster of this question read RTK before asking this question and before you, today, copypasted it here.
Sure, whatever method you like.
I just use OCR software.
I do but very few channel.
が emphasizes something while は points out the topic. That said, I can't exactly answer your question why が is needed here.
Maybe because 高い is modifying 値段 and 値段が高い is a phrase modifying restaurant?
>Why are there so many people linking the OP
>Is this just one?
Mostly yeah it's one guy.
Up to you.
There's one in website in the guide somewhere that said that.
I don't know, try it out.
It's good enough. Japanese people will understand you.
Answered by >>139024097
Sure. Elaborate the history if you want to correct me. I'm doing this to see how far can I explain without resorting to books.
I'm aware that I'm not entirely correct in that particular answer, and really, feel free to correct me with the history of the alphabets. I'm not going to open my kanji book and read japanese alphabets origin in it and type it for him.
A Core Deck in the guide.
たち is how japanese language pluralize something.
PART IV.1/2 of the answer series
YOU POSTS THESE QUESTIONS JUST TO FLOOD THE THREAD. But here are the last answer.
I'd like to know the answer to this question too.
Not a question.
I don't use it, I don't know.
There, I caught up to you at the end of the thread. I quoted and answered most of your questions. Feels good to review some things sometimes.
I'm out now, enjoy shitting on the thread anon. I'm done consciously replying to your questions on djt.
I hope you find it in you to seek professional help.
I know that to say you pretend to do a verb you just use it's plain form plus ふりをする. But what if you wanted to say you pretended to do a する verb, like study? Since I don't think you can use する twice in the same sentence. 勉強するふりをする?
Hey djt, I'm reading NHK easy weather news for my first reading practice, and something has me confused.
The basic meaning of the sentence is that rain fell heavily on Japan, right?
Why is たくさん in there? That's just a guys name right?
I apologise for asking such a nooby question
1) Responding to "on topic" content is "fucking autistic"?
2) It's not on topic. It's copypasta spam. The people who asked the questions are not here and the answers are not helpful to anyone but the original asker because 95% of the questions are literally answered by the basics sections of basic grammar books.
You waited for 5 long posts before you say that? It's a holiday here. One reason I'm doing it is to to see on how far I can answer questions without checking study resources. A review of some sort.
A small reason is to make it so that the "copypaste" anon can't use the excuse of "I posted questions on djt, but nobody answered me and continue to posts off-topic contents" or it's variations.
It's a deterrent for him not to do it now that I've quoted and answered a lot of his posts. He might still use the excuse, but anybody can easily post a counter-argument now based on the 4.5 part long answer posts.
What is the difference between 見つける and 見当たる?
I've googled a little bit and a few sources were saying miataru: find, mitsukeru: discover. But then other sources were saying that they can both mean to find and to discover. Is 見つける a bigger discovery than simply saying 見当たる?
Anon, please seek professional help. I'm sure there are some people out there that loves you and worry about you and your well-being.
The world is not as shit as you think anon, look for the light. Join ISIS.
Have you noticed that a lot of people who are good at moon are very hostile at anyone who is learning? Like if you post about making progress in an easy game with low-level Japanese, they will immediately throw extremely technical jargon VN screenshots at you and call you shit, things like that.
Have any of you guys learnt to write? I've been studying for like 5 years I can read well for the most part but my handwriting just sucks, I'd kind of like it to be better if I could any tips on it or should I just write until my hands bleed.
>Inevitably you're going to have to speak japanese to other people
Do any of you study moon whilst going to school/university? I'm really trying my best to learn but it's hard to even find the time to revise my vocab even once a week. It's even more frustrating because I'm going really slowly, learning basically nothing. I just don't see how people have the time to learn 30~+ words a day in any language whilst being a non-NEET. Even an office job seems like it'd make this shit hard.
Can someone spoonfeed me the right way to start learning from zero?
Like in what order do I study things? Is there are complete course somehwere?
I would research it myself but how can I know which source to trust?
So how do you guys practice your jap? I got halfway through the first genki book for a class on the language, but I don't really know enough to do anything with it and without anything useful to do with it I just stopped studying.
Premade decks should be only a supplement to your own mined decks. If you're brand new and still working through Tae Kim/whatever and haven't started reading actual content just stick with core, after that you should be getting most of your anki cards from mining.
boo hoo, you work for 6-9 hours a day just like everyone else, why are you pissing away time on 4chan if youre so busy, especially an anime board when you wouldnt have time to watch any of the shows discussed, how about learning japanese instead of sign language, fuck those deaf cunts.
>revise my vocab once a week
What does this even mean? What is "revising vocab"? 30 words a day is like 30-40 minutes in anki (including reviews) tops, I find it hard to believe that you can't make 40 minutes to do your anki reps in a day even with word/school obligations especially since you can find the time to post on 4chan.
You know, if we had two threads, he wouldn't be able to post every minute in both of them. We just have to disguise the second one as something else. How about a raw manga general? We can even link to the DJT site under the pretense of pointing at the CoR for raw manga and the yotsubato reading pack for 4chan patriotism.
Is anybody still around that is not the generalfag anon or did everybody bailed an hour or so ago from this ludacris?
I want to ask you guys, what is the clinical term of what this anon is suffering from? What does it called in English at least?
He seems like he can function like a normal human being; being able to articulate himself and expresses his opinions, a rather smart human being I'd say.
Yet he has this unwavering persistence to consistently doing things that he thinks can destroy djt.
The degree of consistency of which he is doing it is alarming to me, if not sounds real crazy.
How do you guys call a person like this in English?
He's not "technically" mentally crazy right? As an ESL that lives in a non-welfare country, I've seen crazy people on the streets in a regular basis. This guy doesn't talk like a crazy person, but sure does act like one.
Again the degree of consistency is chilling to me.
Ah, there are 3 people other than me here. Are you all English native? What is the proper term for somebody like this?
>I want to ask you guys, what is the clinical term of what this anon is suffering from? What does it called in English at least?
There's a long list of possible conditions, but the symptoms being expressed are delusion, narcissism, obsession, and social unawareness, among others. These can be symptoms of autism, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and other conditions.
You should've just be the Batman and do that without posting here. Now he knows your brilliant idea, and will bother that other thread too.
Also, if you can answer this too >>139024861 that'd be great.
>Now he knows your brilliant idea, and will bother that other thread too.
Perfect, because spam is the best way to kick off a new thread.
>>Also, if you can answer this too >>139024861 that'd be great.
It's been 18 days since I upped new cards from 20 to 40, and my daily reps have gone from an average of 300 a day to 700. I actually just hit the last new kanji in the deck (2887, with 50-some suspended) so from now on every word I encounter will have kanji I already know. I hope this makes the review count stop increasing, if I start getting hundreds more reviews than I already have I'm going to cry.
Is this proper? Like, do people really say "sometime in the next week", "sometime in the next month" etc. as we would in English?
I'm asking because google is mainly bringing up Japanese to English sites when I search for this. So it makes me feel it might not be a natural thing to say.
Last question (maybe). What is the proper term for his in-denial attitude over evidence (or overwhelming evidence).
I read his first /qa/ thread and he talked repeatedly about nobody adressing his points in the Opening Post. Which most people did, but just laced with insults too.
So I parsed his opening post and answered his points one by one by one.
As we all know, he made a second thread and persistently said that "nobody" addressed his points about generals in his opening post.
"I" specifically answered it sentence by sentence. Not to mention in this thread alone some people were answering his copy pasted questions.
The second thing that stand out to me about him, first being his consistency, is his persistent denial in the face of answers or opposite opinions, direct answers even.
How can somebody be this in denial / blind, and how do English language (psychology) call that specific symptom?
Who here can actually watch shit like this and understand it all? Is it bad that I've been doing this shit for 2 years and I can only understand parts of it?
I'm sure I'd be fine with it if I was reading it instead, they speak so god damn fast and I can never put it all together
Rate my Japanese learning NEET schedule. Eating takes place randomly whenever I get hungry so no need to make room for it. I have gone a month without showering before so no need to include that either. Anyway, what do you guys think? Any advice?
7:00 - 8:00 = Wake Up
8:00 - 10:00 = Read Japanese
10:00 - 11:00 = Free time
11:00 - 12:00 = Biking + resting
12:00 - 1:00 = Read English
1:00 - 2:00 = Free time
2:00 - 3:00 = Read Japanese
3:00 - 6:00 = Anki
6:00 - 8:00 = Free time
8:00 - 10:00 = Read Japanese
10:00 - 11:00 = Free time
11:00 - 7:00 sleep
So, DJT, about consonants...
Are G and J as unstable as R?
I mean, when pronouncing R, japanese will range from "Lemon" to "Remon", depending on their speech style.
I would like to know if that's the case with some weakened-ass Gs and Js I've encountered around, and what are the rules, if any.
会議 かいぎ / kaigi
非常に ひじょうに / hijouni
In this audio I've pronounced the first two with a "muddy" accent and the last two with the default sound we learn.
The "kaigi" one will almost becomes "kaiñi", and the "hijouni" makes a "zh" sound, instead of the expected "dj".
How are these decisions made?
I understand that if you speak in a laidback way the sound tends to come out like that, but I'm not sure if that's entirely it.
Help me make sense of the 2nd line and correct anything else you see wrong with my translation:
"Its something from a time slightly before the OP picture but, during summer vacation events aimed at kids seem to go on every day in the nearby district.
I was a gradeschooler but, the things I learnt ...??
So at that time, I cant remember the reason, but I learnt you can ask the store manager to provide a birthday cake.
It might have been a store (mcdonalds) ajoined to a supermarket, but I my birthday was during the summer break so i thought I'd try it once.
It was alright i guess flavorwise? It was about twice the size of the local baker's cake however.
A white faced ronald mcdonald came and did magic and balloons, paper hats etc, now that i think about it he did quite a bit.
How long does it take you to read a light novel? There is soo much I want to read but I am just barly managing a volume a week. I have over 64 volumes of light novels I want to read. It would take me over a year at my current rate. Kill me.
Oh wow, thanks. The term "narcissist" has been adopted by my local language but the meaning changed into something akin to a "selfie addicts".
This is the first time I've read the real explanation of what narcissism actually is.
Thanks a lot.
It has to be admitted though, the degree of which he can consistently "go to battle" with the idea of djt for this long, is pretty disturbing.
Everybody must've used it too.
DON'T GIVE UP! DON'T GIVE IN! KEEP READING! BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!
Learning Japanese is a very long journey and you need to fuel your mind with the right reasons and the right fuel to sustain that journey! Everyone has a lot of energy at the start and they're very focused on their reasons for learning Japanese, but after you've been going for months then the wear and tear of the grind starts to hit you, you get caught away in the daily challenges, the ups and downs, and you focus on the speed bumps of your daily studies and you lose sight of your reasons! You have to stay focused on the reasons for why you're learning Japanese!
There was once a kid who couldn't speak even though everyone else in his class was speaking. When he was 7 then everyone was reading and talking, but he couldn't read. The teacher brought his parents in and told them that he had to go because he was slowing down the rest of the class. They didn't know what to do with him, so they put him to work and he got fired from every single job that he tried. All that he knows up until 21 years old is failure. He's never tasted success. Then one day he found his reason, he found out what he wanted, and he gave it everything he had! Day in and day out! He tried something over 1,000 times before he was finally successful!
Most people never try something more than 10 times before they throw in the towel, but he just kept trying because this was something that he cared about! As he kept pushing forward then it was all of these failures that kept bringing him closer to success! AND THEN FINALLY THE LIGHT BULB LIT! It was Thomas Edison!
He had been a failure his entire life, but every time that he hit rock bottom then he just got back up and took another step forward! We all fall down in the journey of learning Japanese, but it's our perseverance that determines if we will be successful!
REMEMBER WHAT YOU WANT IN JAPANESE AND GO AFTER IT LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT!
I installed AnkiDroid on my phone so I can Anki everywhere. I also installed the core 2k/6k deck from here, without media.
However, when reviewing the cards, the only english that pops up is the translation of the sentence, not the word too like on desktop. How do I fix this?
Fuck, news are hard.
So, this part is saying that the African-Asian and Americans are planning the biggest conjunct military training because of best Korea's missile launches and tests with DIY nuclear weapons,
and this part's saying that they are planning to practice it as if they were in a war, because of how likely NK's to attack, r-right?
I just got the Google IME thing. Is there a way to use a keyboard layout other than English when using it? I'm accostumed to the Spanish layout so when I type in English I don't know where any of the symbols are.
About a month ago, I became demoralized, missed a day or two of reading, and have run away from it ever since.
I've noticed that I am now drastically more depressed than usual. While it's doing wonders for my anime watching, I am still on a downward spiral in terms of my nip learning.
I just downloaded some new manga to read so I'm on the mend, but this is some alarming shit. Don't let this happen to you. Never stop, not even for a day.
>Never stop, not even for a day.
Truer words have never been spoken
So anyone still cramming for the JLPT, or has everyone given up in despair?
Had a pretty great practice test today (N2), managed to cut a lot of my time by reading less of the text in the grammar in text section (questions 50-54) and also by not reading the sentences for the vocabulary part unless I am not certain.
>tfw day off
> sleep helps you learn a bunch
> half to wake up early because I like to enjoy my life and stay up really late and hate sleeping
Learning is hell. I hate having to go to sleep. It ruins everything, I bought an energy drink and everything to study tonight. I hate sleep, overtime and Japanese is life. Fuck sleep
Started with kana ten days ago. I think I'm done with realkana, if I ever fail one kana it's because I slip a finger with the keyboard. It was nice to be able to get most of the TGS, like names from characters and such.
And now, I feel like I'm lost. not because I can't see a way to go forward, but there are too many open roads.
After dealing with kana Genki I feels like it jumps straight intto a vocabulary pool (and without explaining the thing with ha/wa beforehand). I'd rather choose something that teaches me first how to build clauses, the rules of its smaller elements... a syntactic approach.
Tae Kim seems to be what I'm looking for, but then, his Basic grammar looks like is a bunch of random-placed rules to me. There is still a knowledge gap I feel the urge to fill: How Japanese words start to work.
A lot of Why...? questions pop in my head while I try to start with grammar or Kanji. "Why is this written with katakana? It doesn't look like a loan word...", "Why should I use the chinese reading of this kanji? Where are the rules about which reading I need to use or learn better?" , "Is there a kanji for every japanese word, like, is there a kanji for itadakimasu (I know, I know, I need to learn how to type in kana asap)?"
Somebody help please? What do you do once you get over with hiragana and katakana?
Chinese speaker here. I have a pretty good level of fluency in Mandarin and can read a lot of characters (kanji), so I decided it's time to put that aside for a while and pick up Japanese. After all, I spend multiple hours a day listening to cute cartoon girls speaking it and have even picked some up organically over the years, so it would be stupid not to explore it.
Anyway, starting next week I'm going to be reading and regularly posting/posting in these threads. Would you guys consider it inappropriate if I picked up a tripcode for DJT only? I'm a firm believer in the idea that you pick up language best when your conversations with others are realistic and direct, so it would be kind of weird if I was posting in Japanese but didn't have an identifiable name on my posts.
Just wondering, how does one restart anki after stopping for two years? I got bored with it and just started reading but time has gotten tight this semester and I like to read only when I have large chunks of time to do it. As a result, I know a lot more vocab now than when I stopped anki. How do I restart core 10k without having to spend forever going through really easy stuff? I know I could keep upping the new card limit until I get to new words but that just sounds really tedious.
Because imouto doesn't do it to attention whore unlike, say, maki
All avatarfags also blog incessantly
If you're not the original retard I advise you don't get yourself involved in this argument because this guy is so stupid and narrow-minded that he can't get into his thick skull that exceptions exist in this world and for good reason
I need your opinion DJT.
I started Anki two weeks ago with the default template:
>Example sentence with kanji [furigana]
>The answer in Kanji [furigana]
Vocab wise it's working nice so far. Kanji however, is a bit cloudy since it's not the main focus of the card. But then I saw this and now I'm deciding to try this template. There's a big difference because with this, there are no example sentences and definitions on the front card as a crutch. Instead, it'll make me produce the word it's looking for, plus the definition.
My question is this:
At two weeks in (40 new words/day, 200 max review), if you were in my position, would you just start over so you can go through some of the cards you missed prior to switching? Or would you just continue with the reviews, since those cards you missed will eventually show up again?
So, I think I might be retarded or something, but I'm very confused about Kanji. I meant to make some progress through Genki last night, but I just ended up reading through explanations of how they work for several hours.
From what I understand, they serve to either:
- represent a collection of sounds, taken from the original Chinese pronunciation and unrelated to their original meaning (but sometimes containing an ideographic indicator of whatever the meaning is) - this is used when kanji are in compound words
- represent a concept, against taken from Chinese, but read as the Japanese word for whatever that meaning is - this is used when kanji are isolated
Can someone help clear this up?
I don't consider him to be an exception, he can stop using an name and still be as helpful. There is no good reason for him to engage in being a namefag.
Why would he use a name if not for gathering attention to how helpful he is?
>started mining my own cards for a single week, not even half an hour every day
>Current Deck: 388 cards shown
>probably won't help me for shit just like Kore
I will always be a dictionary / texthooker babby
Need your advice, /djt/
I've finished ~4k words from Core, 1.1k kanji from KD and have a decent grasp on grammar from Tae Kim.
Lately, I've been slugging through Amagami on my Vita, which is rather boring, but reasonably easy even at my level, and doesn't require to look up too many things, as virtually all the dialog falls into 'high-schoolers talking about daily life' category, nothing impressive grammar or vocab-wise.
The thing is, on sale a few days agj I've picked up a Vita copy of a White Album 2 bundle, which includes both parts of the VN, and really want to play this masterpiece. Would WA2 be too much for me as of now, considering I don't use a text-hooker 'cause vitard, and should I consider playing it safe and sticking with Amagami until I finish Core and KD, to avoid being overwhelmed and ruining myself an experience?