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episode 35. What will it be? put down in the comments bellow
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Episode live starts in 9.00 by Japan time zone.
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choose a stream on top.
http://wilsonjj.me/jptv/
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>>138829292
>what will it be?
Disappointment
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>>138829292
Will be shit and then it will be shit again
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Straight disappointment.
If it were the old dragonball, vegeta would go straight into ssj3, blast once, and it's done, because that's what he does.
That's not going to happen though.
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>>138829946
Yup. Nope. He would never actually do that.
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Vegeta beats up Frost. Vegeta wins. Hit is mad that Frost cheated. Hit kills Frost.
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Where are Freeza's ears?
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My predictions:

>Vegeta is superior to frost
>He litteraly plays with him as frost can't even follow him
>The fight takes too long
>Champa gets pissed and hit decides to intervene to kill frost and stop the combat
>Vegeta is pissed and want to beat Hit for interrupting the combat, but before that, he has to fight the robot and the sayian
>He beats both of em easily
>Fights hit
>loses in seconds
>Beerus is chocked
>Sends Monaka
>???

I swear, this has to be the way it continues
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>>138829889

and after?
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>>138830526
frieza has ears?
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>>138832835
Yeah, those holes on the side of her head
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>>138834100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her
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>>138834149
Isn't Freeza a girl? I always thought they were.
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>>138831775
Next 2 episodes are finishing the Frost fight, robot and Cabba. Hit won't make a move for 3 weeks
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>>138829946
Pay attention to story flow; if Vegeta just wanted the fight to be over, he would have accepted Frost's disqualification. Instead he forced him back into the ring because he wants to torture him a bit and completely fuck him over for awhile because this guy made a mockery of his teammates.

Vegeta is being a good guy in his own particular Vegeta way, like when he broke Android 19 in a very personal way after cutting off its arms.

Of course there's a limit since you can't kill any competitors here.
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is this show bi-weekly now or what? Wasn't 35 supposed to air last week?
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>>138835015
Last week was on break. Episodes air on a weekly basis.
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>>138835015
No. They didn't show it last week because the nips aired a womans marathon instead. DBS is back on track every week now.
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>>138835067
>>138835072


oh okay phew
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>>138829292
why the fuck all dragon ball kek characters look down like a retarded baby? it´s like the retarded shaft head tilt?
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>>138835713
They are both trying to look down on their opponents but they're both manlets, so that's the result.
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go on reddit / dbz find link for live episode
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>>138829946
There's actually a magazine spoiler saying that Vegeta end the battle in one hit. Although I guess they'll fight for a bit in base and then Vegeta goes SSJ to defeat him in on hit. Probably with an attack so strong he ends up bouncing off from the barrier from one side to the other several times,which is why they'll make the barrier a ring out starting from the next battle.
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>>138831775
>Champa gets pissed and hit decides to intervene to kill frost and stop the combat
This is wrong. When we saw Hit against Frost in the preview, they were outside the ring, so my guess is Hit will punish Frost or something, but only after he's defeated (or withdraws) by Vegeta.
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>>138838411
I bet the scene with Hit will be the very last thing in the episode and it will end in a cliffhanger. Like the Rhino appearing in the trailer for ASM2 but only being in the very end.
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>>138839244
Maybe. But they've been handling those fights pretty quickly, very quickly for dragon ball standards. And since Vegeta vs Frost is gonna be very one sided, I think we might see more than just a cliffhanger.
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>>138829292
Wow. People are actually getting some sort of character development and plot, and they still bitch.

DBZ fans are cancer.
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>>138839429
>very quickly for dragon ball standards
Eh, they've been pretty standard for tournament episodes. Just feels like it's faster due to the lack of preliminary rounds.
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>>138839627
>make anime
>people love it
>make loved anime a bit different
>"I WONDER WHY PEOPLE ARE BITCHING?"
You're not too bright are ya pal
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>>138829292
Vegeta goes SSJ 2 on Frost, after getting a beaten Frost forfeits and then Hit steps in to do what ever he did on the last preview.
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>>138829292
Dammit, its a shame how terrible Super turned out to be. Right know the Manga is right were the Anime left off and its going yo stay that way forever. The worst part is that the Manga is far superior to the Anime in every single way. In the Anime the dialogues, animation, and everything looks and sounds retarded. GT was garbage yeah but if someone would point me with a gun and asked me to choose between GT or SUPER, i would choose GT every day
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>>138840836
Nah Super is pretty good.
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>>138841415
>>138841415
except the animation
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>>138840836
im enjoying it
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Is Frost gonna die?
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>>138842140
Probably, Hit's about to send Frost to the shadow realm.
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Universe 6 fighters will be playable in vidya from now on, r-right?
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>>138842286
Of course. It's probably the only reason Xenoverse 2 hasn't already been announced; they're waiting so they can reveal the U6 cast (and whatever transformations we haven't seen yet) as playable. Then whatever villain comes in the arc after will be DLC.
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when wil episode start live?
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>>138842671
35 minutes.
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http://watchdbzsuper.com/dragon-ball-super-episode-35-subbed/
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>>138842800
wat
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5 minutes until Episode 35 airs
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STARTING
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>>138840836
I like super for now. I mean it may be less good than Z (Kai actually, Z was shit), but it's still far above the others long shonens airing right now.
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Link anybody?
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FROST GOT BTFO
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Monaka confirmed for a joke.
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>>138844316
http://vaughnlive.tv/wgg002
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>>138842223
What is that? An animation? Did Toei actually animate something?
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>>138837303
OH SHIT IT'S LEGIT
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>>138829292
Story-wise, the logical thing (at this point) is for Vegeta to win. So I'd like him to lose just for the sheer retardation of it.

Ebin meme related.
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>>138844489
Forgot my pic.
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Is Frost about to die because of money?
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man i wish i understood gook.
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Come on you fags. You should be able to translate this shit on the fly by now.
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>>138841415
>>138841466
>Super is pretty good
Even lowering my standards Super never fails to disappointed me.
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looks like Goku can fight again
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>Dragon Ball Heroes 2
Another game we'll never see
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Did Hit just absorb Frost's power?
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What the fuck was that!?
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THE FUCK WAS THAT

HE JUST "PSHHT NOTHING PERSONNEL KID" HIM
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How long does it usually take for an episode to be translated?
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Lava spit
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>boiler

Pretty cool.
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Yeah, subs were needed for this episode.

I'm really confused. Where the fuck are the nipanons?
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>>138844900
So he really ISN'T a dentist.
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>Vegeta's starting to get tired
>beats Magetta next week
>barely beats Cabba
>Hit one shots him, Monaka comes in
Guess this is the way it's going down.
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>>138844900
I still think Magetta has the coolest design of U6 fighters
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Best episode of the U6 arc by far. This was actually really enjoyable.
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>someone in universe 6 managed to create a robot more powerful than Buu

fucking seriously?
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>>138844992
No, because he's not a robot, he's from an alien race called metal men.
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Was that Final Flash?
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>>138844992
it's not a robot you dumb fuck it's a metallic alien. robots can't fight.
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>>138844992
He's not a robot you retard, they've been over this like twice already.
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>>138844992
They said he wasn't a robot, otherwise it couldn't compete.
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>>138844965

He's getting boiled in the ring, not tired.

>>138844992

He's not a robot, he's some sort of living thing.
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>>138844992
He's not a robot, they are an actual race.
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>>138844992
not robots anon, he's an species called Metal Man
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>>138845049
But that will lead to fatigue nonetheless.
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>>138844992
>someone on earth managed to create a robot more powerful than freezer

IN A CAVE

WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS
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>>138844990

Shit actually happened. The Pooh guy was lame and little Frieza was all about muh poison.
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he's dr gero :D
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>U7 loses the tournament
>Earth gets switched to U6's solar system
>The rest of Dragon Ball Super is trying to get the Super Dragon Balls in order to switch it back.
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The banging and sparks were pretty enjoyable.
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>>138845138
>same face
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So what was the Monaka scene about?
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>>138845102
Frost was more interesting as a businessman trying to make lots of spacebux than he would be as "good Frieza"
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>>138845166
this
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That's two pretty good episodes in a row, for me at least. Hopefully this keeps going.
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>>138845166
Beerus seems to be scared of Monaka.
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Goku is confirmed back after vegeta.
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>yfw Monaka is another Garlic Jr.
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>>138845223
And Beerus still wants Monaka to go last.
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>>138845217
I don't think he was scared. I heard that Monaka is part of a race that is peaceful once provoked.

My guess is that Beerus didn't want Goku to provoke Monaka and mess up everything.
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>>138845223
>>138845256
>Goku going to get BTFO twice in the same Tournament

I love it.
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So how good the animation is this episode? Please tell me the filipinos delivered some decent tweens for once.
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>>138845223
This confirms Monaka is a joke or Hit is gonna crush Goku.
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Apparently, Hit's in the tournament because he's been promised Whis's ship as a reward.
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>>138845300
Some of the fight scenes looked a bit wonky but it wasn't cancerous like some from the last arc were at least.
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>>138845323
Ship?
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>>138845300

Whatever. Not as bad as previous ones.
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>>138845323
>Whis's ship
What ship? The cube they flew in on?
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>>138845116
Champa/Vados wouldn't even allow it. They already made a deal with Beerus.
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>Hit is voiced by Norio
>trashcans Frost in one move

Heh.
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>>138845301
No Goku is going to fight before Monaka.
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>>138845323
The blue cube? Why would he want that?
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>>138845389
>Hit is voiced by Norio
Norio as in Norio fucking Wakamoto?
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>>138845389
>>138845441
Yamaji Kazuhiro
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>>138845346
The cube they came in on.
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>>138845581
I missed the episode completely. Is there somewhere where I can watch it? Or can someone give a summary?
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>>138845391
>Goku is going to fight before Monaka
And here I was thinking Toriyama finally was trying to be innovative.
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>>138845692

Beerus was very adamant about keeping monoka last.
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>>138845692
Goku going after Monaka is what everyone predicted. This is better.
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> Hit is a legendary hitman

Wow, this guy is literally a meme.
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>Hit's a "legendary hitman"; Frosts wonders if Champa ordered Hit to kill him, or was hired by survivors from one of the planets he destroyed

>And Hit does describe the Cube spaceship as his promised reward if he won the tournament (but it's Champa's Cube, not Whis's).
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This is retarded, why doesn't Vegeta just go Blue and take care of the fucking metalman?

Why is Hit LITERALLY a meme?
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>>138845344
>>138845358
O-Okay. I've read some people saying that the animation was pretty good (especially in the first part) and probably had the best animation since the beginning of the show.

Guess I'll have to wait for SOCFJ to wake the fuck up.
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>>138845902
Because that'd be a waste of precious energy and revealing his power to the others.
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>>138845649
>frost gets one punched by vegetable
>frost tries to escape the arena
>hit goes full nothin personel kid and almost kills frost
>beerus is scared shitless about monaka not going last
>touching the barrier means ring out now
>goku gets back to the tournament
>Mazinger Z fights vegetable
>Mazinger Z ability is to continously increase his power
>vegetable goes ssj
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>>138845925
I never got it. Is it more of a waste of energy to have your face stomped and to waste like 20 minutes on fighting as a SSj or whatever, that just to turn SSB for a sec and defeat your enemy in a single blast?
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>>138845902
>This is retarded, why doesn't Vegeta just go Blue and take care of the fucking metalman?
Apparently, next week, rather than turning blue, Vegeta will use a dangerous technique.

If they're really holding back an entire form, this is being written in a really weird way.
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>>138845983
They've fought for hours on end in SSJ back in Z, so yeah. It is a huge difference.
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>>138845984
If they're holding back Blue, the F arc shouldn't have existed. This arc would have been much better if Frost wasn't ruined by Freeza's comeback and Blue was a surprise.
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>>138845009
>>138845031
>>138845039
>>138845042
>>138845049
>>138845052
>>138845073
>>138845098

robot, alien, whatever. Point is that this random robot-like thing is stronger than Buu. He doesn't use ki or anything, just his physical weight and heat from lava, and yet it's stronger than Buu. That's fucking retarded.
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>>138846127
What's retarded about that? Alien monkeys are stronger than Buu. Prodigies happen.
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>>138846127
who says he doesnt have ki/uses ki to make his punches stronger?
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>>138846156
>>138846172
>replying to the retard
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>>138846127
Lava is HOT HOT HOT
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>Beerus says when Monaka's "mind is one", he incinerates anyone who gets in his way, friend or foe. He destroyed a planet that way once.

So, Monaka confirmed for turning into something like this?
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>>138846172
>>138846196
Well, how about I just knock you flat on you're ass you trolls, that sound any better to you? Just name the time and the place and I'll be there.
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>>138846337
The Monaka is a joke fags BTFO?
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>yfw Monaka doesn't get to fight at all
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>>138845393
So he can do his hitman job and leave before the galactic patrol or whoever try to stop him?
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So im guessing it will go:

Vegeta defeats Magetta
Cabba defeats Vegeta
Goku defeats Cabba
Hit defeats Goku
Monaka defeats Hit

That'd leave Goku and Vegeta with 2 wins each.
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>>138829946
That literally never happened.
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>>138844235
>tfw we couldn't protect that smile
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There's a raw already on nyaa, though I'm not seeing any seeds.
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Raw: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=795318
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>>138844308
Why is champa so cute
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>>138846596
Stop advertising you faggot
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>>138847031
dragon ball time
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>>138844730
kek
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>>138846127
Anon stop looking at it from a perspective of Earth. The metal man race could have extremely powerful ki and techniques for all we know.
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has the raw been uploaded anywhere, yet?
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>>138847485
dbz super watch
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>>138845104
"I have made a serious mistake"
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>Goku will be able to fight again
wew
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>>138848031
Why does Goku get picked but not Piccolo?
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>>138848231
Cause he's a cuck now and forfeit when Vegeta told him to.
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>>138848231
Because Piccolo would lose in the next fight. He's not as strong as Goku/Vegetation.
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>tfw Monaka will be the final villain of this arc
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>Expecting Hit
>Got Magetta

I'm ok with that. Why is Magetta so best?
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>>138848927
Because it's not even his final form.

Magetta will transform in the middle of his battle and become the mighty Magetta Z!
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>>138844900
DAMN MAH BOI MAGETTA SPITTIN' DAT FIRE FR 100
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Can someone explained what the fuck is the plot of this new Dragonball anime?

New freezer non-evil?
Saiyans from another universe?
Fat cat?
Why they just don't one shot everything and try to fight with the fucking fat cat or the milf?

What the fuck is going on?
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>>138849169
New freezer is secretly evil instead of a good guy. Which is pretty retarded if you ask me
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>>138849169

nobody knows yet
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>>138849226
He's businessman evil, not Fridge evil.
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>>138845098
That's what's pissed me off. Frieza, one of the best-written characters in the series, gets shit on by edgy mcshits and edgy mctits with some parts thrown on them by some lad still butthurt about as something as lame as the Red Ribbon Army. At least Magetta's cool (and technically not a robot) and RoF put Frieza back where he belongs: At the top of the foodchain. Too bad Frost was probably the lamest villain the series has ever had, despite his potential of being the most interesting.
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>>138849282
I still think it would be better if Cabbage was evil and Frost was some noble moralfag
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>>138829946
>http://wilsonjj.me/jptv/
No he wouldn't.

This is a survival-style tournament, he wouldn't go all-out right away. He needs to conserve his energy.

Also SS3? What?
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>>138849282
Frieza was businessman evil, he kept people alive and used them to fund his space empire. Frost is just war economy evil, where he starts wars just to save them and appear as the hero, he's the American of Chilly Willies.
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Am I supposed to feel anything by these fights?

Fucking Goten could win this shit
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>>138849311
>villain
he was a random side character, that's all. Unless something's gonna change, he may very well get less screed time that Dodoria or someone like that.
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>>138849446
I feel like Frost ruined the fights because the outcome is pretty obvious now.
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>>138829292
i dropped this shit before ginyu
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>>138849474
The episode titles are legitimately spoilers at that
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>>138849493
They've always been that way.

Remember back during Namek?

>Next time on DBZ, will Goku finally finish off Frieza?!
>"Frieza dies, Goku wins!"
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Who is the best fighter and why is it Magetta?
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>>138849632
it's magetta
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>>138849436
Frieza = Japan
Frost = America
King Cold = China
Cooler is still Cooler
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>>138849652
>cooler
>as if he actually exists at all
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>>138849732
It doesn't change the facts.

He is Cooler.
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>>138849169
>Why they just don't one shot everything and try to fight with the fucking fat cat or the milf?
Shut up Buu saga Vegeta
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>>138849446
All of U6 seems to be pathetically underpowered in comparison. I know Hit's getting hyped up a lot, but so were Frost and Kabe.
I don't get why Vegeta's fucking around with Tinman.
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>>138849465
He still fucked up Goku and Piccolo, and he's a meanie bo beanie, so I would still consider him a villain.
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>>138839713
People have no right to bitch about this shit. It's literally triggered fanboys upset because a Japanese children's cartoon isn't what they wanted it to be.
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>>138850114
DB fans are literally impossible to please at this point.
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>>138850214
This is nothing compared to the PPG freakout.
The amount of asspain caused by Bubbles having things in her hair and Buttercup having a cowlick trumps the bitching people have for Super.
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What is the name of that spanish grpup that sub DBS?
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>>138849944
If those spoilers were correct, Kabe is pretty strong considering he goes even with god Vegeta with in his base form alone.
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>>138850434
Kabe makes vegeta fight using his base forme because he can't go super
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>>138850259
It would be different if this were a drastic change that completely betrayed the source material, but aside from the shit animation, DBS doesn't seem too different from what Dragonball always was. It's a gag manga that doesn't take itself too seriously. I don't see how any of this bitching holds water.

No clue what the PPG reboot is like, but if it's not too far from the general feel of the original cartoon it's probably not even worth getting mad over.
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>>138850333
wut?
Also checked
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Action still sucks.......
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>>138850434
i'm really curious at to what excuse they'll use for generic base form sayians from U6 being stronger than their Frieza.
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>>138850676
no tails xD
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>>138850470
I doubt Vegeta would risk losing a match bystaying in his base form just for the sake of equality, that seems like something Goku would do.

>>138850676
Frost isn't a prodigy like Frieza was and all his "struggles" were set ups.
U6 saiyans police the universe and with people like Hit around there are probably races/individuals that surpass cell/buu powerlevels.
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Is Monaka a fraud?
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>>138850961
probs
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>>138850904
he really likes the kid and theres a offcial preview of the episodes with some info about them
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>>138850961
what purpose would Beerus have to lie? Seriously, what would he gain from it?
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>>138849169
>Doesn't watch show
>Experts to be able to tell what's going on
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>>138850961

yep it was confirmed this episode

>>138851162

he probably doesn't like Goku and don't want to recognize him as the stronger he ever fought
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>>138851207
You're retarded
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>>138851207
>he probably doesn't like Goku
Do you have any examples to back that up? If anything Beerus seems indifferent to everyone else in his universe.
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>>138851281

I just can't imagine any other reason why beerus would come out with monaka's fraud
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>>138840836
I was about to ask why Gohan was dead. Then I realized that he died for all of half an hour cause dumbass Goku (and Toriyama) didn't want to have my boy in the final fight.

That's OK though. Gohan is back to training and building up to a shining moment like he always does.
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>>138851545
The last time that happened he got absorbed and didn't do shit for the rest of the arc.
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>>138851492
Because Monaka isn't a fraud, he just becomes uncontrollable once he feels threatened.
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>>138851563
I know.

Fucking Buu Saga.

We'll just have to wait and see, but he'll snatch back some of the spotlight I'm sure.
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>>138851162
Maybe Broly just didn't want to join the tournament.
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>>138851608
Monaka passed out after he saw the first Kamehameha.
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MEGA for a subtitled version?
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>>138842223
Looks more like the crystal realm to me.
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>>138850640
>.......

I KNOW RIGHT? WHERE ARE THE GALAXY-BUSTER PUNCHES XD?
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I like this. The fights have a lot of strategy now.

Very few fights in the show have been resolved through muh pawalevuls
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So, Magetta uses lava to raise his power?
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>>138845389
>>138845476
Got my hopes up for nothing
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>>138852870
Well, except Vegeta vs. Frost. Wanpaaaaaaanch
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>>138849056
>Magetta will transform in the middle of his battle and become the mighty Magetta Z!

Will he transform again to become Magettakaiser?

Will he be able to turn into a giant fist or throw out planet-destroying axes as Shin Magetta?
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>>138845269
>peaceful once provoked

Wait

What
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>>138853144
He learned from the best.
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>>138851608
kek
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>>138852870
Too bad it still looks like shit
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>>138853436
it hurts a little
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First time I enjoy this shit, animation seems to be better compares to previous chapters
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>>138850502
both DBS and PPG reboot has bad animation
DBS has a story written by toriyama, while PPG lacks its original creator input
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>>138852810
Lol seriously i want that with the highest level of skill.

It will probably end up looking like 12 oz mouse leaving it to them..... Ive seen better collateral damage detail in duel masters lol
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>>138851608
>Fucking Saiyans in my safe space!
>That Saiyan is threatening me with his muscles!
>BLUE HAIR IS MY TRIGGER

So he's butthurt DBZ fanboys?
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>>138853543
Personally, after seeing PPG, DBS could be way worse.
They can't even show punching anymore.
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>>138852870
Still have no strength behind their punches or hits. Shit should be getting torn up with the highest level of detail. It should make boros vs saitama look like childsplay and saitama vs genos.... This is dbs.

If the action was top teir i would love this series. I guess a bunch of weaklings approve of super. Bunch of sjws.. Go back to sm.
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>>138853580
You might like this more, or is it nothing like your precious Ultimate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KD8sXaYYs
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>>138853662
>If the action was top teir i would love this series. I guess a bunch of weaklings approve of super. Bunch of sjws.. Go back to sm.
What the fuck is this post
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>>138851545
Gohan is being built back up to lay face down in a puddle of blood once again!!!! Not even yamchua could pull off this style of dy- i mean fighting.
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>>138853662
So this is what we've come to.
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>>138853793
just your average powerlevel poster
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>>138853736
Its my fucking post about bitches defending super when the action does not represent what a new db should be. Durrrr we like weak visual fights.

This looks like a bad play and people are holding toeis nuts in they mouth like " stfu its great" you must be an action tard. 9000 wasnt high enough for ya huh?

Sarcastic cuz they know the action is ass lol.
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>>138853888
Can you put on a trip so I can bfollow every post you make, enlightened one?
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>>138853793
This is an action show..... Even 7 deadly sins has better action than super. Its fucking sad. If you dont like combat you wouldnt understand. Go watch some soft shit.
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>>138853888
Just go back to whatever other shithole you came. Everyone knows the animation is shit, no is denying that. What the hell are you even saying.
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>>138853945
Please put on a trip anon, your words enlighten me.
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>>138853945
You seem really mad about a kids show.
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>>138853704
Lmaooo. No absalon is horrible. I give him credit he did most of that alone but he has no grasp of perspective and draws everything on one layer........


Ultimate was slightly above saiyko e no michi quality but there was much more consistency and studio susaano specialized in action. The action was godlike. Nothing i have seen action wise comes close even though I've watched thousands of shows.

Super is just at the mercy of people who couldn't make an action show to save their life.

I wish sunrise, madhouse, jm animation, susaano, anyone competent could animate super.

I hope they don't manage to fuck up akira animated series when they decide to bring that out.
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>>138854257
Oh my god it really is you. You're ADORABLE, Ultimateanon. Tell me more, why was it so good? Would you mind putting up a trip?
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>>138854257
This can't be real
Please just stop. DB threads are bad enough without whatever the fuck you're doing
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>>138853976
Lol im saying everyone who anticipated super expecting action way better and hype than your one punch man.


There are the people in denial who mock action fans and say " oh you must be a powerlevel fag" when ascending was one of the core things about the show.

The action was a big reason why people watched it. Even in the old days with z some episodes look real shitty, but the action was still good and entertaining .

Now it looks like they hired a bunch of hobos to do this.

I just dont get why people who dont like action like super when action is supers biggest weakness right now.

You are saying "it's toei you should of known it was going to be shit".

Im saying i know, but niggas not ready to hear that shit lol.

Especially when mf precure is beating dbs? Tf.

I take the L for one piece, but precure? Lol fuck outta here man.
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>>138854427
Lol sure. Everyone is in denial anyway. I just sit back and shake my head as the shit i said years ago unfold every week and elitists brag about it like they knew it first lol...... Its crazy.
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>>138853655
I would get mad too if a retard like Goku gets closer to me, he's fucking annoying in Super
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Jose deja de estar chingando en el 4chan y ponte a trabajar puto huevon
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>>138854496
>>138854572
Please put on a trip.
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>>138854319
Well i wont have to. In time but for now i will refrain from talking about ult and stick to why super fails.
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>>138854496
>this whole post
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>>138854619
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>>138854496
>The action was a big reason why people watched it
>The action was a big reason why amerifats watched it

Fix'd. Now kill yourself and go somewhere to talk about your Ultimate meme
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>>138854669
But how else can I follow your wisdom?
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>>138854671
Lol good one. Im not heated but everyone who invested money into this dumpsterfire is jumping off some building right now.
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>duragan buraro supaa
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>>138854719
Not really. Dragonball picked up at the tournament arcs in japan because of the battles genius....

Like i said, the story was solid enough to warrant the crazy action they wanted to show. Kind of like a kung fu flick.

You tell me you didnt watch a donnie yen film and had no intention of seeing some really good action scenes?
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>>138854773
I like how some spic put Broly there instead of Bu like anyone else would do it. Wond
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>>138854773
>Broly
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>>138854855
whats this maymay about brolly and mexicanos.
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>>138854773

Broly isn't canon you fucking idiot.
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>>138854773
Who's top left?
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>>138834189
Dubfag
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>>138854913
who the fuck brought up canon?
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>>138854747
Lol follow "credible sources" like kanzenshuu lmaoo...... Or every other know it all troll who thinks they know it all. Everyone is here to make shit up but it is in motion so you will see it for yourself.

Heroes already dropping hints......for a while.
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>>138854773
Should have put first form Cell
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>>138854773
:^)
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>>138855023
Dragon Ball
>heavy but proper use of asian themes
>kid friendly, but interesting

Dragon Ball Z
>defined muscles and other body parts
>proper cell shading, utilizing multiple shades
>complex details

Dragon Ball Super
>moeblobs
>characters have 2 - 3 colors
>shading consists of white circles that don't show texture or even the correct color
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>>138855023
Can someone do this with the dragon ball girls?
Specially, Bulma, Chichi and any other random girl from that series
>>
Let me tell you guys...... about ..... Dragon Ball Ultimate

Lol you think ....... fans made the ssj5..... toei actually produced the evil goku 5 gts and the db ultimate series

But if you ask japan they will tell you nothing ...... word actually died in Japan as there were no ads, announcements, etc and they moved on

Lol don't belive me? ....... watch super or heroes......... they have things Ultimate had
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>>138855119
>t-take my chinese cartoons seriously!
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>>138855157
>anime is good if you just realize its going to be shit to begin with!
>>
Essentially it was stated that dr geros cell and dr myuus bebi are the same thing. They merge the 2 together. Then cell absorbs lots of hellfighters.

His final form is "super perfect flawless ceru"
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Ultimatefag is a loser.

Let us turn to a more important topic: how everything in the series would be better if Goku didn't end up with Chi-chi.
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>>138855139
Thats a low blow man. Really using my old posts? I said im not even gonna speak on it. But when it comes out i definitely want everyone to stfu
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>>138855177
>expectations THIS high for a cartoon
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>>138855224
Krillin too busy fuckin ur bitch?
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>>138855224
Kind of glad she didn't because now she's her own character, and one of the few main heroine in shounen that isn't just the love interest
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>>138855279
Lol yeah whatever man..... I know there trolls thinking they know it all like you lmaoo......
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>>138851545
Gohanfags really are the worst.
>Shining moment like he always does
Happened once in entire DBZ
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>>138855354
Jesus fucking christ, fuck off already. You're writing like a 12 years old. For the love of God, please kill yourself at once.
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>>138855224
>IM
>FUCKING
>PLYING

Bulma and Goku would never be the best pairing. Maybe it'd work out better than Goku/Chi-chi, but it would have its own baggage.

Goku/Suno is clearly superior, Goku attracts redheads easily and Suno isn't nearly as sheltered as Chi-chi. She'd make for the best mate. She might not be a martial artist, but she still tried to shoot King goddamn Piccolo in the head, just to stop him from hurting anyone else!
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>>138855133
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>>138855473
Lol ok... go read kanzenshuu or something lmaoo....
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>>138856567
Kill yourself you cancerous faggot.
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>>138854619
>>138854709
Samefag
>>
Why is the penguin hanging out with the Kais aren't they the highest level deity?
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>>138855473
I stopped like along time ago. Idk who is pretending to be me but have fun with it.
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>>138850961
He took Gokus punch, no?
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>>138856717
>doesnt know how to check for samefag
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>Robot punches arena and it cracks
>OMG SO STRONG

Ok, when is everyone going to stop being impressed over things weve seen a million times before?
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>>138857107
This.

Goku several episodes ago was delivering punches that were on the verge of destorying the universe.

Now big bad robot punches an arena and it cracks and Goku is all Suuugoooiii!

I fucking hate this shit.
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>>138857146
There was also Friezas big crater not too long ago when he arrived on Earth.

Even though Nappa did the same thing 300 episodes ago.
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>>138855023
DBS looks like a combination of DB/DBZ there
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>>138855547
I wish she return
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>>138855224
post more bulma x goku
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>>138855547
Goku doesn't even know her name
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>>138857372
Tights a best.
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>>138857615
who
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>>138857650
Bulma's sister. Main character of Jaco the Galactic Patrolman (alongside Jaco and some old dude)
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>Ring out rule is in full effect

What a shitty tournament.
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>>138857879
What? Did you expect it to ignore rules just because like the Cell games?

No I'd prefer they stick to the rules, and have a good old fashion tournament like in DB
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>>138857615
She looked way better with longer hair.
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>>138857174
To be fair, nobody but Vegeta saw what Nappa did there.
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Anybody got webms of Vegetation curbstomping Frost?
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>>138858077
Everyone saw it, it was enormous. The aftermath was on the news too.
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>>138857615
>Over 60 years old
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>>138858362
Her mom's like 80.
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>>138829292
>Goku asks to be sent after Monaka
>Beerus panics and tells him Monaka needs to go last
>Goku asks why, since it could be fun seeing Monaka fight
>B-b-because reasons

Monaka confirmed for Joke

Well that was disappointing, guess we can't have someone stronger than Goku huh. Fuck you Toriyama.
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>>138850961
He literally shitted his pants so hard after seeing Goku's Kamehameha he ended up unconcious
>>
Maybe Monaka just forgets everything when he enrages? So he acts like a little faggot now but when push comes to shove, his nipples transform?
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Any news on a dub yet? Any can't watch it when Goku sounds like an old asian woman
>>
Is SS3 stronger than SSBlue as of now?
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>>138858656
(You)
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>>138858656
Toonami Asia is going to air an English dub in "mid-2016."
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>>138855547
Damn so many characters that were simply swept under the rug.
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>>138849169
Frieza is evil, he's literally the United States. Starts wars so he can solve them and get money.

Same the US does for oil and shit while giving FREEDOM to the world.
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>>138858532
>guess we can't have someone stronger than Goku huh
cept Beerus

and Whis

and Champa

and Vados

and maybe Hit (we'll see)

and maybe more people (we'll see)

>implying we've even seen Monaka yet
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>>138858927
>That's not Monaka
>The real Monaka is dead, Beerus fought him 12981024 years ago
>He brought someone else to not lose face
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So who's ready for Xenoverse 2: Fusion Boogaloo?
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>>138858982
>missing the point of what I was saying

I mean we haven't actually seen what he's capable of yet

you're jumping the gun, shitposting about the story too early
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>>138859058
>Spirit Worldian
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>>138859058
>Why are there 2 grandpas?
I dunno why but that amuses me.
>>
Super is piece of shit
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>>138829292
Vegeta super soon
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>>138859174
Repeat that 50 more times and see if it changes anything.

Go ahead.
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>>138855734
who is that orange haired girl at the bottom?
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>>138859339
Angela. Filler only character I think.
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>>138859339
Retarded girl from that shitty Saiyaman filler episode
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>still holding back SSJ2 and SSBlue

There really isn't much tension when you know he could go Blue and one-hit everyone so far.
>>
Is the translation out yet?
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>>138829946
you have no clue what you're talking about
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>>138855547
I don't know why you're convincing yourself that Suno wouldn't have ended up just like Chichi.

It's not like the personality she has now was anything like when she was a child. What makes you think Suno would actually be any better

Also...filler? Fuck you!
>>
>Vegeta beats Magetta without even going SSJ2
>Vegeta fights Cabba without transformations because Cabba can't and muh saiyan pride
>just barely loses
>for some reason Monaka goes before Goku (maybe some rule, maybe Champa squabbling, maybe Beerus starts getting nervous over losing so many fighters)
>Monaka beats Cabba
>Monaka loses to Hit
>Goku steps in, beats Hit in SSBlue

If it turns out SSBlue could have stomped everyone in the tournament I'll be mad.

>>138859675
Have you never been around the other times? 9-12 hours from now.
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>>138859590
>>138859762
Blue is diminishing returns now, just like Ascended Saiyan and SSJ3 are.
>>
Monaka better live up to the hype.
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>>138856743
Why does King Kai hang out with Bubbles?
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>>138854773
this has got to be the stupidest picture i have ever seen
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>>138859784
Source: your ass.

Blue is exactly the same it has always been: a massive powerup which incorporates a lot of God Ki on top of the normal stuff.
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>>138857803
A main character, yeah. She's not even in the first few chapters.
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>>138859835
Because Bubbles is his nigga, but King Kai said not even he was allowed to even see the Kaoishin
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>>138859762
Nah I've usually come around the next day
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>>138854773
Freeza and Cell are from "Dragon Ball"

Jaco is from "Jaco: the Galactic Patrolman"

Your lack of understanding of what you're trying to shitpost about is showing
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>>138855734
>DBZ - thick deliciousness
>DBS - low test garbage
>>
Why doesn't Vegeta just go SSJ2 instead of risking disqualification via murder with Final Flash?

Guess he actually is very confident he won't lose.
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>>138831775
Monaka will be killed by Hit to demonstrate how threatening he is. Calling it now.
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>>138861162
Then Hit is disqualified and that's the end of the tournament.
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Why are people pretending that Monaka is not a fraud? Did you guys even watch the episode? Whis told Beerus that he went unconscious after seeing Goku's kamehameha and Beerus.
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>>138859819
There is no hype. Whis says Monaka is a fraud.
>>
So what did Hit do to Frost?
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>>138861431
Probaly ZEWADO and presure point
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>>138861350
>>138861382
So Beerus is only hyping Monaka up? What's the point of that? It's not like the opponent will forfeit without fighting him.

Did he do it only to motivate Goku to train harder, thereby also making Vegeta train harder?
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>>138861477
Beerus don't care about the training, maybe it's just wants to mess up with Goku not letting it now he actually the strongest in the universe after him
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>>138861917
Quite sure Beerus cares if Goku and Vegeta train hard so they win the tournament and he gets to rub it in Champa's face.
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>>138861963
He didn't care at first with the training, it was Wiss idea,
>>
How come Goku has another shot in the tournament?
That sounds awful having Goku be yet again the one to save the day, I was actually happy to see Goku be out early because it was different for once.
>>
>>138829946
What's a ssj3?
>>
>>138862233
You'd mom riding my dick
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>>138862128
lol what did you think was gonna happen
>>
>>138850676
probably repeatedly zenkai boosting/beating each other to near death all day
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>>138862286
keke
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>>138861382
he never said that
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so this is going to be a quality fight
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>>138829946
>old dragonball
>vegeta would go straight into ssj3
kill yourself memer
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>>138831775
>Sends Monaka
>believing the Monaka lie
>>
>>138854496
build wall
>>
This is bullshit, wasn't vegeta supposed to go SSGSS?
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>>138863862
You wish.
>>
Reposting spoilers now that they are confirmed. Vegeta is going to beat Magetta:

Ep 37:no title available yet
The plot summary is: “Vegeta’s next opponent is the Saiyan from Universe 6, Cabba. Cabba shows he fights evenly with Vegeta even in his base form, but says he can’t transform into a Super Saiyan.”

Also new ending from episode 39.
Why do they keep putting new ending every 12 episodes but don't bother to change the OP?
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>>138862128
It's retarded, but it's always the same shit with Goku so I'm not even surprised.

Piccolo won't fight again though, because he's weak.
>>
>>138860821
>>>/fit/ is that way family
>>
>>138864023
Why would he? Evidently he doesn't even need to go SSJ2. I will be annoyed that Vegeta won't go SSJBlue in the tournament, and now it seems he won't even go SSJ2.

I can't fucking tell if what he went now is SSJ2 or 1, but due to the lack of electrical arcs I will assume it's 1.

>>138864115
As this says, he will fight Cabba without transformations (and probably lose).
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>>138864115
So, if he could go ssj or god he would raep Vegeta and Goku?
>>
>>138864115
U6 is a fucking disappointment.
>>
>>138864170
>SSBlue could stomp the entire team singlehandedly

U6 a shit. A SHIT

>>138864167
I'd take the term "evenly" very loosely. Also why would he? If anything that would mean he's the same strength.
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>>138864115
DBS ep.38 (April 10th): "Here's Universe 6's Final Warrior: Hit, Mightiest of Men!". No plot details available.
Scenario: Yoshitaka Toshio
Director / Storyboard : Kōhei Hatano
Animation Supervisor : Naoki Tate


...So, since Hit is already fighting in ep 38, does this mean cabba will lose?
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>>138864266
No. It could be that Cabba defeats Vegeta, fights Goku and loses, which leads to Goku fighting Hit. I doubt it but it's possible.
>>
Thanks god sub is out in my local language
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>>138864166
Do you really expect the animators to bother with (or even remember) the differences between SSJ1 and SSJ2?

The only relevant SSJ forms now are the iconic original one, and the new SSJ Blue.
>>
fuck this EP was garbage
vegeta vs frost was a one punch fight the rest of the episode is vegeta flying around
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>>138845098
>doubting Dr.Gero
He made perfection anon
>>138849311
>Frieza
>belonging on top of food chain
>>
>still thinking ssj2 is a thing

Based /a/ being retarded as always
>>
>>138864360
BR?
>>
>>138865175
Indonesian
>>
>Cellfags think a Tagoma tier character is perfection

Oh wow hahahaha
>>
Hitto special move looked shit.
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>>138865252
Is it good? I have never watched anime with Indonesian sub before.
>>
mhm
>>
>>138861083
Anything other than regular SSJ and Blue are useless now. Toriyama confirmed it on a Post-BoG interview.

SSJ2 or 3 may be stronger initially but in the long run just training the regular SSJ1 form is better.
>>
>>138865396
I don't think you'll understand the subtitle in Indonesian language.
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>>138855224
>Trunks won't be born
>Yamcha hangs himself
>Chi-Chi remains a somewhat tomboyish martial artist
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>>138844763
>>
>>138866029
grab a D
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>>138859058
>Spirit Worldian
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>>138865454
>tfw we reverted to pre-SSJ2 Cell Saga
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>>138859058
Can girls fuse with boys?
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Just because they are energy wise inefficient does not mean they are completely useless.

They still provide a multiplier that is higher than normal SSJ. Seems useful for a fight where they have to go higher than SSJ1 but don't need to go Blue.

I wish they somehow explained how normal SSJ is now stronger/equal to SSJ2-3 transformations.


Whatever. I guess you should not think too much about DB.

Remember that one time he put that Rabbit Villain on the fucking moon with his power pole?
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Non of this makes any fucking sense.

How did Vegeta beat Frost with one punch while Goku was fighting him with a decent amount of energy?

Piccolo is supposedly far stronger than a super saiyan yet can't take out Frost?

Why was Goku able to come back to the tournament but not Piccolo?

Why isn't Frost killed by Champa?

The metal guy is giving Vegeta a hard time? Are you fucking kidding me? He told Goku to give it his all, well then go SSGSS and finish him off with a strong blast......but no lets drag this shit for as long as possible.
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>>138849824
Cooler than Frieza? He must be Ice Cold!
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>>138866029
http://imgur.com/zGBvQBu
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>>138866574
>Why was Goku able to come back to the tournament but not Piccolo?
Because Vegeta made him forfeit so he could fight.
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>>138866574
It doesn't have to make sense, as long as it makes Goku and Vegeta look good.
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>>138866574
>How did Vegeta beat Frost with one punch while Goku was fighting him with a decent amount of energy?

Goku thought he was a decent guy and didn't want to hurt him too badly. Vegeta just wanted to wreck his shit
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subs where
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>>138866574
Because Goku had not been putting any effort into it.

SSJ long ago != SSJ now

Because Piccolo forfeited to let Vegeta fight, Goku did not forfeit.

Probably because Champa was distracted and Frost was legging it

Increasing your power little by little to match your opponent has basically been happening since forever, don't expect it to end anytime soon.
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>>138829292


So i thought I'd check out an episode of this new dragon ball super.

when did pickle low become such a cuck and why the animation so laughably awful?
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>>138866917
TOEI put zero effort in Super because Dragon Ball sells anyway
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>>138866917
>when did pickle low become such a cuck
he literally was a cuck when he raised Gohan in the Saiyan saga
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god fucking damnit Vegeta, just go Cyan and rape his ass already.
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>>138864325
vegeta will probably beat cabba.
even if cabba's base form is better he will get butthurt turn SSJ and rape him.

Hit then takes out Veg, Takes out goku and something happens to the plot with monaka.
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>>138859762
>Vegeta beats Magetta without even going SSJ2
Not much of an accomplishment when Toriyama has thrown SSJ2 and SSJ3 into the incinerator.
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>>138866493
In hindsight. Gohan's Mystic form is easily more efficient and stronger than SSJ3. Not everyone has that much potential but it's an efficient boost like nothing else.
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>>138869282
Mystic form would be great on anyone but Gohan. On him it might as well be Kaioken x1.
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>>138869212
vegeta was SS2 against beerus and goku did too.
Not so long ago they used it.

Also anyone elese thinking monaka is beerus girlfriend ?
They way he overprotect it and is nervous seems really that way.
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>>138844992
Think of him as a Transformer. A member from a race of alien robots
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So, Hit ZA WARUDO'D Frost and didn't kill him, just incapacitated and carried him back to arena?

what the hell?
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>>138866493
>They still provide a multiplier that is higher than normal SSJ. Seems useful for a fight where they have to go higher than SSJ1 but don't need to go Blue.

Well considering the difference between Super Saiyan 2 Gohan and FPSS Gohan isn't huge, it makes sense that if someone was so strong that they needed more than SS, then SS2 likely won't cut it, and SS3 is really ONLY useful for when you KNOW you can beat them in a short time.

So yeah, it makes sense that there wouldn't be many circumstances that would require more than FPSS, but less than Blue.
Also remember that the stronger the base, the less a SS level multiplies it.
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>>138869819
Monaka is obviously male, and I seriously hope Japan doesn't fall to SJWs just yet.
Everything that's been hinted at is that Monaka is just a joke, and Goku must come before him because he's the only legit fighter once Vegeta is out.
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>>138869977

Then why is Beerus acting so weird if he is a joke. He wouldn't lie about a character giving him a challenge.
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>>138869977
Momoka is obviously like Arale

He's a joke, but he's a Toriyama style joke where he's still a monster.
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>>138855734
>that filename
But I liked Mai more.
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>>138869972
>isn't huge
>one can't beat Perfect Cell
>other beat Super Perfect Cell
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>>138869361
>implying Gohan isn't much stronger
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>>138845015
Yes. The preview has Goku telling Vegeta "Seriously?! You're using that move?!"
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>subs are out
>just not in English

the shit?
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>>138871550
Seriously, and it's always Spanish subs. The fuck?
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>>138859784
The entire point of blue is better ki control and efficiency. How did you miss that?
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Anyone else really hate how SSG Red is gone now? I really liked the design, a hell of a lot more than Blue. But apparently it was a one-off thing, and we'll never see it again.

It's a bunch of bullshit.
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Where the fuck are the subs? Goddamnit it's been like 14 hours.
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>>138872360
https://kat.cr/dragon-ball-super-35-english-subbed-720p-super-fan-sub-sehjada-t12284639.html
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>>138829292
>What will it be?

shit
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>>138872446
>up on normalfag torrent sites before anime ones

Fucking hell. Thanks anon.
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>>138872627
Yeah i know. It happens every week.
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>>138859762
Pretty much SSBlue could've indeed stomped everyone. They didn't go past SSJ1 so far and they probably won't until Hit.
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Okay, I have a theory about Monaka.
Why Beerus doesn't want him to fight before anyone else? Why he wants him to be the last? It is because Monaka can become just as strong as the opponent he is fighting. I think he is like Ditto from Pokemon, with the power to transform into an exactly copy of his opponent. This is why I think Beerus had a hard time with Monaka. Beerus wants Monaka to fight for last so he can have the chance to transform on the strongest U6 fighter, but it is also why he needs Goku and Vegeto to have good fights first. Monaka could win against a weakened Hit if he transformed into a copy of Hit with full energy.
Calling it now.
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>>138846127
Miss GT yet? At least their robots looked good.
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>>138875240
>Miss GT yet?
No, we do not now, nor will we ever miss GT.

Fuck off back to your ESL forums where you can pretend people that like all that non-canon fanfic shit have opinions that matter.
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>>138875240
>Metal Dildo
>good

I bet you're sexually aroused by Super 17.
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>>138875496
>non Canon fanfiction
>implying Super being Canon is a good thing
I'm sure that Star Wars EP 7 being Canon must be good in your books too.
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>>138875680
Super manages to expand the story.

The only thing GT does is expand your trouser snake every time you see shirtless hairy monkeys.
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>>138875680
>implying Super being Canon is a good thing
I'm not implying anything. I'm explicitly stating that it's great, and that you idiots who like GT and that other fanfic shit are retarded.
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>>138872446
thanks man
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>>138875496
>>138875496
>No, we do not now, nor will we ever miss GT.
Wow just wow. if he is an esl you must be a first grader in english. i don't see problem in his post unlike your post, that's pain to read.
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>>138875886
8/10
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>>138875886
The truth hurt? GT isn't magically better no matter how bad Super gets.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS GOHAN
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>>138875496
Super is also non-canon fanfic bullshit. There was a fucking Frieza resurrection arc.
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>>138876060
Fucking his wife, reading books, and spending time with his newborn daughter.
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>>138876060
At a conference about his new book that will change the world.
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>>138876113
>Super is also non-canon fanfic bullshit.
Factually incorrect.
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>>138876140
It's still too early for Gohan to publish his book on ki.
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>>138876162
It is a Toei original anime, just like GT
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>>138876113
>DBZ isn't canon, there was another fucking Red Ribbon arc.
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>>138876224
>It is a Toei original anime,
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/about/staffcast.html
Once again, factually incorrect.
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>>138876222
He's not publishing it yet, he's having a conference about it. His preliminary research.
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>>138876230
>Dragon Ball isn't canon, there was a fucking Piccolo revival arc.
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>>138876289
It is objectively an anime made by Toei that isn't based in a manga. Calling yourself correct doesn't make you correct.
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>>138876416
Are you actually retarded or just pretending? I honestly can't tell with all the GTfags here.
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>>138876290
He doesn't even start researching it until after Goku and Vegeta go off to die.
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>>138855224
>>138855547

Maybe we will get to see it since the show is now about alternate realities.
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>>138865510
Nah, nah

Trunks will be Goku's son. And he'll be twin brothers with Gohan.
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>>138876458
Let me ask you, which parts of the original anime aren't canon? I would say the parts that aren't in the manga. If you asked me which parts of Super aren't canon, I would say the parts that aren't in the manga (i.e. all of it).
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>>138876557
>which parts of the original anime aren't canon?
The parts not written by Akira Toriyama. That's what determines canon.

>I would say
What you say does not matter. Only what the original author of the story writes matters.
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>>138876647
Does that mean Broly's canon? He was made by Toriyama, after all.
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>>138855734
Dr Gero made Launch into 18? Still, Videl's transformation is the strangest. Height, hair color, and almost looks older on her first pic.
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>>138876647
>The parts not written by Akira Toriyama. That's what determines canon.
what about when Toriyama writes two conflicting things? Which one's canon?
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>>138876833
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%ABZ_%E7%87%83%E3%81%88%E3%81%A4%E3%81%8D%E3%82%8D!!%E7%86%B1%E6%88%A6%E3%83%BB%E7%83%88%E6%88%A6%E3%83%BB%E8%B6%85%E6%BF%80%E6%88%A6
His movie was not written by Toriyama, so no.

>>138876906
>what about when Toriyama writes two conflicting things?
If you're referring to the new movies, Super is canon. It supersedes it and is the fully fleshed out version of the story.
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>>138877004
>is the fully fleshed out version of the story.
source?
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>>138876647
Beerus and Super Saiyan God were already in the script when Toriyama rewrote it. Does that mean they're not canon?
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>>138876557
I'm going to hit you with some cold, hard truth:

Canon is as bullshit as Power Levels, there's NEVER been an official "canon." There've been timelines and guidebooks, but "canon" is never something so exclusively strict. It's fast and loose. It's prone to retcon.

It's only "official," that's all that matters in the end.

All the filler that you seem upset about? Toriyama came up with most of it, and even the parts he didn't he later incorporated some of it INTO the manga (like Bardock). Toriyama never gave a shit about "canon." Toei never gave a shit about "canon." If either of them cared about "canon" that much then the Red Ribbon arc never would have happened, or it would need to be changed to make it take longer before it did.

GT? Official. Super? Official. Xenoverse, Online, Heroes? Who gives a shit if it's canon or not, it's making money. That's all Toei cares about. Toriyama NEVER cared much for canon in the first place, he is on goddamn record stating he'd write what he thought was cool even if it contradicted things that happened before.

Tell me, why do you even care about "canon" that much? Does it upset you when nerds on the internet point to Krillin hurting Super Saiyan Goku with a rock as some kind of Power Level argument? Are you actually using it for some purpose other than to stroke your ego?

Boy you ain't right.
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>>138877032
You could try reading the link with Toriyama talking about the story that I already provided, or any of the other interviews with him about Super.

>>138877056
Toriyama wrote Super. They may have given him ideas, but he wrote the story and decided to include that. It's his decision. I know you're pretending you have a point, but you don't. It's very simple, if Toriyama wrote the story then it's canon. That's it.
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>>138876900
No.
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I will never understand why people defend Super.

Shit animation, lazy story elements (Super Saiyan God is a DeviantArt-tier donut steel recolor; a tournament arc; recycled plot elements, etc.), no redeeming factor. About the only reason to keep up with these threads is because - frankly - the QUALITY is hilarious.
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>>138877079
>It's only "official," that's all that matters in the end.
>GTfags pretending anyone gives a shit what they think
Poor kid.
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>>138877079
The problem is that everyone says Dragon Ball has shitty writing and doesn't make any sense when really they're just confused because they watched a shitty anime adaptation and don't understand the plot. Maybe instead of saying only the manga is canon I should say only the manga makes sense and isn't shit.
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>>138877161
>I will never understand why people defend DBZ

>Shit animation, lazy story elements (Super Saiyan is a DeviantArt-tier donut steel recolor; a tournament arc; recycled plot elements, etc.), no redeeming factor. About the only reason to keep up with these threads is because - frankly - the QUALITY is hilarious.
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>>138877161
I will never understand why ESL posters shitpost here.
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>>138877141
>You could try reading the link with Toriyama talking about the story that I already provided, or any of the other interviews with him about Super.
I want specifics that state shit like him wanting Bulma's birthday party to be on a cruise ship, Videl getting yellow hair during the ritual, Tagoma training with Freeza and getting more powerful instead of dying, Gotenks showing up to the Freeza battle, Ginyu returning, Goku reverting to base prior to getting shot by Sorbet's laser, etc.

I don't want your interpretations. I want explicit comments. Concrete facts.
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>>138877190
>Implying something being official makes it good
Episode of Bardock. Literally a card-game tie-in cash grab. But Toei loves it. It's official.

GT is awful, but it's official. It still sells merch.
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>>138877212
So things really haven't changed.
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>>138877296
>I want explicit comments
>"I wrote the story."
Boom. Done. All encompassing. Take your pissy semantics and fuck off, you don't have a point. Toriyama wrote Super, end of story.
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>>138877382
>All encompassing
I said I don't want your interpretations.

>you don't have a point
Dude, I get that you have abysmal reading comprehension, but the fact that you're too retarded to understand another person's point doesn't mean that they lack one. Get your head out of your ass.
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>>138877326
>Implying something being official makes it good
I don't care what official stuff Toei uses to print money. Canon (written by Toriyama) is all that people care about. Your post is a bunch of bullshit pretending that no one should care what's actually written by the author. You're stupid.
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>>138877378
I liked Toyble's last Dragon Ball Doujin better.
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>>138877433
>Canon (written by Toriyama) is all that people care about.
yeah man, fuck what-ifs
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>>138877419
>I said I don't want your interpretations.
"I wrote the story." means he wrote the story. That is not my interpretation. Those are facts.

>Dude, I get that you have abysmal reading comprehension, but the fact that you're too retarded to understand another person's point doesn't mean that they lack one. Get your head out of your ass.
Listen you fucking idiot, I know words are hard for you, but you're making the claim that Toriyama isn't the writer of the story. I linked an interview where he says he wrote the story. That's very black and white, and even a child could understand what the means. Saying "well show me where he talks about writing every single detail of the story or else he didn't actually write it!" doesn't give you a point, you fucking braindead monkey. The only one with their head up their ass is the one arguing what the phrase "I wrote this story" means because they're desperate to pretend they have a point.
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>>138877538
>That is not my interpretation.
"All encompassing" is your interpretation.

Did Toriyama write the manga?
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>>138877433
The author never cared much about canon in the first place. He forgot Launch existed. He forgot about tails. He forgot about the year recharge time for the Dragon Balls more than once.

Arguing over canon is fruitless because it never amounts to anything.
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