Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1465

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
I would like to instil in people just to work hard. As long as they keep at it, their dreams will happen.

Report the dupe so we don't have a general split >>138728527

>>138728569
There are four of them, mate.

>>138728569
>>138728611
Report these ones too:

>>138728525
>>138728548

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Oh jeez.

We are so going to get banned.

>>138728438

To be clear, I was only giving an example.

This came up in my thought when I was thinking about how they say Japanese is a "pictorial" language.

threads.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's that guy false flagging and spamming a thread on his phone/proxy/computer etc.

>>138728689

I checked before I made my thread(the one with the gif) and I didn't see any others up. Seriously did a search.

The only shitposter is the guy who did the Yuno one.

Let's talk about manga.

みんな最近何を読んでるの。この２週間で面白い本とかVN読んだ？
僕は遮那王義経という漫画を最近読みつくした。とても面白く、日本の歴史をすくしでも興味を持つアノンにおすすめしますよ。

みんな何読んでるの。読んでるときに印象は？どんなに難しく読んだりしたとか？

>>138728726
>I checked before I made my thread
The catalog takes a while to update, so this sort of stuff is bound to happen when you have multiple competing OPs.

Shit like this is why we use a single image since it won't let you create multiple threads with the same image. Stuff like varying OP images is for when a new thread isn't made literally instantly like here.

Anyways, quit talking about it and just move on. Don't give them even more reason to ban us by devolving into meta shit.

>>138728658
My bad then. But my point still stands, unless you got a study backing it up, I don't think such a claim could be made by anybody.

something something nihon

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>4 threads
This is why we use the same image for the OP so you don't get duplicates even if 10 people try to make the thread at the same time

>>138728857
DJT didn't used to have new threads made literally within 5 seconds of the old thread dying, so this wasn't really an issue before since the threads usually took anywhere from 5 minutes to a few hours for a new one to pop up, meaning varying images wasn't a problem in those cases.

>>138728773
>みんな何読んでるの
何回聞くんだお前

>どんなに難しく読んだりしたとか？
は？

ところで俺は何も読んでないからここで糞レス書くしか時間の使い方がない

>>138728857
Janny, can you delete the dupe threads? Thanks.

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>>138728975

Mods are asleep, learn Japanese!

>>138728773
漫画とか読んでほしいんだけど, どんな漫画を読んでいいかどうか分からん。バーテンダーかな。

What's the quickest way of learn kanji /a/?

>>138729043
By not.

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death to imouto

>>138729043
WaniKani, friend. Be sure to buy the lifetime subscription for only $299!

>>138729043
Buy physical copies of the RTKs and a 10 year WaniKani subscription. You'll be fluent in about that time.

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>>138729043
You'll never learn kanji.

>>138729082
了解！

Time for the anon from the /qa/ thread to shit up the thread and link it as "evidence".

>>138729185
Whatever man, nobody cares about his tantrum, just report him. Replying to him isn't gonna change anything. He's been shitting up the threads for days now.

>>138729043
Through vocab.

>>138729082
Is this the new meme for the cool kids?

>>138729082
どうでもいいんだ
djtの全員を殺せばいいんだよ

死による勉強する

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>>138729146
He will, if he takes charge of his destiny with the power of WaniKani.

how do nips talk so damn fast jesus christ

do we eventually become that good? I can't keep up with the recorded sentences in Core 2k/6k

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where can i get the patch for this?
literally every link i check is dead.

>>138729455
They don't actually talk particularly fast, in all honesty.

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>>138729455
Read more, and focus on meaning, not sound.

>>138729039
どんな漫画でもよくない？面白そうと思ったらよんでみてもいいかも。バーテンダーってこれhttps://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=4904

一度authorさんのインタービュ記事を読んだんだけど、なかなか面白いauthorさんとの印象はいまでもまだ残っています。内容は何かもう覚えてないけどｗｗ。

バーテンダー読んだら面白いかもよ。読みたかったらよんでよんで。私はつぎ「リュウロウデン」か「私がモテてどうすんだ」をよむかも。

>>138729455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzbUPfoveok

>>138729455
>I can't keep up with the recorded sentences in Core 2k/6k
Do you actually listen to Japanese stuff like anime or you're watching everything dubbed? How can the recorded sentences seem fast, honestly.

>>138729495
Just mount the ISO and play it like that.

My friend said I'm a weeb because I'm learning Japanese.

But we both watch anime and read manga, and he even jerks off to hentai, which I don't.

Am I more of a weeb than he is? Or are we both just fucking losers and there's no point?

>>138729565
It worked. Thanks anon.

and wow, since when was mounting iso a built-in feature of windows?

>>138729643
No idea.

お前らは我輩に屈服するのみですよ

>>138729630
>friend

>>138729630
who cares youre both gay and should diddle each other if you dont already

>>138729702
お前の場合、精液飲みなんだけどね

>>138728726
>The only shitposter is the guy who did the Yuno one.
That thread was created 1 second after this thread, so in all likelihood there weren't any threads up when that thread was made either.

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>>138729630
Now that it's clear that you're the bigger weeb in the relationship, you need to take responsibility and wear anime themed outfits whenever he comes over.

>>138728524
You see this: >>138729419
This is why these threads don't belong on /a/, because they attract nothing but shitposting idiots.

>>138729541
面白いな。まあ、バーテンダーのアニメ見たことあるんだけどさ。漫画読むかも。アノンさんの意見を与えたありがとな。俺は読もうと思う。

>>138729839
He's an anime poster on /a/. Your logic is pretty inconsistent.

>>138729839
like a moth to a flame

>>138729839
Report and hide

>>138729867
>>138729872
Stop replying to the /qa/ faggot.

>>138729895
I've been doing that but these threads are still here.

>>138729911
Then live with it

>>138729911
Just wait until the mods delete them.

>>138729898
ill do what i wanna do dude

I'm taking my very first baby steps to learning this goddamn language. Or at least learning how to read it.

What is a good "beginner goal?" Are there simple documents where you can say, "if you can comprehend this, you're on the right track?" I need material.

>>138729898
Oh look, you're got a new scapegoat for the shit this general has attracted. This is almost biblical.

>>138729928
>Just wait until the mods delete them.
The general itself, not these individual threads.

>>138729951
Report and hide.

>>138729940
You need to read the guide. Also, Yotsuba is usually considered Babby's first manga. But do grammar and vocab first, or you'll drown.

>>138729940
You've reached the first step when you can translate the example sentences in core.

>>138730020
Stop using the word translate. Comprehend is better.

>>138729940
これを読むことができれば、まだ何もわかっちゃいないぜ

Thanks mods.

>>138730086
for what

>>138730069
Fair enough, but I always translated them and then compared the result with the official one.

>>138730124
Yeah actually, translating in your head is part of the process of comprehension when you're at baby core level.

>>138729841
I'm going to go out now, but I'll ask you next time about the Bartender anime. Cheers anon, また.

>>138729630
if you can read a legitimate book, you cease to be a weeb.

>>138730214
バーテンダーはじいちゃんのためにアニメだぞ

>>138730214
Sure, またなアノンくん.

>>138730309
じいちゃんってなんだよ。

Is な the more male sounding version of ね?

>>138730339
とっちゃんのとっちゃんとか

>>138730399
no

>>138730399
Short answer: no. Long answer: partially. Tae Kim covers it in one of the ending particle section. It also has a nuance of 'speaking to yourself'. With ね you ask the people for agreement, with な you're wondering for yourself.

>>138730479
気をつけろよな

>>138730526
気をつけらへんどうすんなよお前は。
Okay now I should probably stop trying to use 大阪弁 because I'm sure I fucked up something.

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五輪

Nice.

>>138730399
One big thing that makes it different is that if you put it after dictionary form it becomes negative command so 感動するね and 感動するな have completely different meanings

>>138730632
>>138730632
なんでやねん
黙っててくれへんか
痛いやん

>>138730847
>>138730479
>>138730439
Thanks アノン様君達

Wow, the autist just made another 3 threads.

>>138730956
thanks for the heads up im sure this is productive in making sure this one doesnt suck

>>138730956
Report and ignore them.

>>138731218
届けない

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>Practiced for a year
>quit for a year
>see OP image on catalog
>remember and instantly feel like shit
I'm back DJT, let's see how long it takes me to quit again.

>>138731705
いってらっしゃい

>>138731753
>いってらっしゃい
おかえり、だろう

>>138731705
This time do it the right way - the WaniKani way.

>>138731705
>quitting after a year
How far in were you? I can't imagine quitting that long considering by then the bulk of your study is likely reading compelling content.

>>138731792
どうだろうな

>>138731828
Epic lad, you are so funny and intelligent

>>138725553
>i dont like that scale because i feel it is missing 6-10
Do you mean you want 5 VNs more difficult than Muramasa, or you want 5 VNs of medium difficulty in-between the current 5?

>>138731865
i think the scale itself is bunk from the start but muramasa isnt really near the top of difficult text, imo

>>138731865
Not him, but I'd like the latter and with more examples for each (if possible, ones that are commonly brought up or mentioned)

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>>138728773
漫画じゃないけど、昨日アニメ版を見て面白かったんで原作をもう一回読もうと思う。

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H-how am I doing?

>>138732156
You are now Japanese

>>138732156
On your first fifteen minutes of study?

今日は遅いな

Anons, how do you translate "望み通りにならない事なんてない". It would not be simple as "I have nothing I desire" right?

>>138729455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOckbE6BTQ

Keep going at it, after some time they don't sound as fast as you think they are.

>>138732638
I think it's 'There's nothing that doesn't turn out as I wish it.'

>>138732638
there isnt a damn thing that doesnt go the way i want it to

>extensive reading with LN+texthooker
Is objectively the best way to learn?

>>138732779
Best way to learn is to read whatever you like consistently while mining

>>138732779
The best way to learn is with compelling content.

>>138732779
by itself its not but you arent going to get the best ways for free from djt so thems the breaks

>>138732779
This >>138732803 >>138732855
>want to learn Japanese for untranslated content
>learn Japanese by reading untranslated content I enjoy
It's pretty great.

>>138732872
You sound salty.

>>138732928
why i was just letting him know the truth straight up from the get go before anyone else could get to him with their foolishness

>Wake up
>See people spamming threads
I hope the wrong mod doesn't wake up and see this first.

>>138733222
>people
It's that one incredibly angry DJT-hating anon who made the /qa/ thread. He's been doing it since this thread was made.

That anon need professional help.

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この瞬間、僕はルンルン。偽神の祝福は理性でない。
しかし、ので僕の知性によって開眼した。

>>138733263
Some people just can't deal with it and snap when they realize that they can't learn Japanese.

>>138733351
>フェドラを傾けます

>>138733351
u wot

>>138733351
さあ、いつも通りのように自閉症的なコメントを書きましょうよ

>>138732779
Yeah, in a combination with actual conversation with real people.

>>138733451
メイト

What the fuck is wrong with this guy? I don't think I've ever seen something so autistic in my life.

>>138733351
これが無神論の力かよ…
大したもんじゃねぇか…

>>138733702
実はイエス最高だ

>>138733698
they don't call him the argumentative autist for nothin

>>138733698
I'm not really sure. I'm reporting the threads as they're popping up, but I'm not really sure what he's hoping to achieve from this. Does he think the mods are going to go "okay this one guy is being annoying on purpose so your threads are banned now"? Someone should tell him about the filter feature or show him generals that are worse than this one.

I wouldn't call any more attention to it than we already are though. It's enough to let people know it's happening / that he's spammed over 20-30 threads in the past couple hours so they can watch and report. We should try to keep this thread on-topic.

I don't get why is he hang out in djt in the first place. Seems like an odd place to hang around in the first place for anybody that doesn't even actively learning japanese.

>>138733775
your post is doing a great job to keeping things on topic thanks for the heads up

>>138733813
No problem man, right back at you. Just doing my part. What are you reading right now?

Also, this "select ____ until there are none left" captcha is really annoying. The transition for new images to pop up is too long.

Does hitting again on new cards effect my % correct for the day?

>>138733848
the last thing i read was like kakujika also you gotta get a 4chan pass to put your posting in the fast lane

>>138733893
Yes. Just hit "good" the first time you see new cards, especially if you plan on using custom study for forgotten cards. If you want that extra step from hitting "again" the first time, then go to the deck options and change the "1 10" to "1 1 10"

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あのあをいほしに

あいを

おにいちゃんに

おにぎりを

>>138733894
Not him, but how how is that in terms of difficulty?
I've really been meaning to read it for a while, but I'm still somewhat of a beginner.

I'm assuming you mean かくかくしかじか

>>138734026
i guess its fairly easy also yes thats the one

its really good also

>>138734097
Okay thanks.
I guess I'll have a go at it to gauge the difficulty at least.

Is there a way to view older public bans than what shows up on http://www.4chan.org/bans ? Like an archive for bans?

お尻愛

>>138734333
お知り合いじゃないの？

>>138734314
you can search the archive for posts that were deleted

難読漢字テスト
次の漢字の読み方をひらがなで答えよ
会釈
代替
曲者
流石
雰囲気
健気

>>138734454
えしゃく
だいがい
きょくしゃ
さすが
ふんいき
けんき

I think I got about half right

>>138734454
かいえき
だいき
ゆうしゃ
りゅうせき
？？？
けんき

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>>138734454
ちゃんとAnkiしてるおにいちゃんには
にちじょうちゃめしごとだね

>>138734498
3/6

>>138734498
3/6
>>138734518
0/6 fuck

>>138734454
Just got 曲者 wrong.

>>138734454
>雰囲気
Why do people always include this in such lists? It's like the most common word in the Japanese language, even a beginner should know it. You might as well put 今日 in.
also I didn't know 代替 or 曲者

>>138728524
Stop spamming your shitty fucking general on the rest of /a/.
We don't want you here and have no idea why on earth this shit isn't on /jp/ or /int/ like it should be.

>流石
>雰囲気
After more than 10 year living in Japan, I've never seen anyone use the other words in that list, so no need to even memorize them, I guess.

>>138734711
It's not us, it's someone who's mad at us.

>>138734711
If you're the anon who was spamming and are just here to false flag, then fuck off.

If you're a random /a/ user and noticed the board getting spammed to hell, then we apologize, there's an incredibly angry autist who hates DJT for not catering to him, so he decided to throw a ragefit on /qa/ and then spam /a/ with bogus threads to piss the mods off after /qa/ didn't listen to him. We generally try to do a good job of making sure there's only ever one thread up at a time.

>>138734631
今日 is in a lot of Core deck tho.

How do I say "Thank you for x/Sorry for x"?

>X はあろがとう
>X はごめんなさい

Is that right?

Does anyone have a site that provides mnemonics for a large amount of kanji? I've always used kanjidamage but it's got a pretty limited amount

>>138734631
I don't know why but 雰囲気(ふんいき） is often pronounced as ふいんき or ふーいんき so not a few Japanese misunderstand.
maybe It's a easier question for a non-native Japanese speaker than for a Japanese.

>>138734884
And 雰囲気 is in anon core 5k

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>>138734904
noitariことばをつかうといいとおもうよ

>こうじんのいたり
>せきめんのいたり

>>138733702
あのシーンは泣けた

日本でも有名なミームだったな

"ふいんき（何故か変換できない）"

曜日の週どちらが好き？

>>138735277
日本人は馬鹿だね～
俺は外人なのに、日本人より日本語を知ってるｗ

>>138735356
"どの曜日が好き？"

こっちの方が日本語っぽいよ

好きなのは金曜

>>138735356
土日が待ち遠しい!!

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ひどいよ

Just finished Tae Kim. Should I start doing a DoJG or Tae Kim anki deck to review the grammar? Which would be better?
I didn't think about that when I started to read Tae Kim's Guide.

>>138735813
Neither and start reading ASAP.

>>138735720
God damn I should reread yotsuba shit's too adorable

>>138735824
So just referencing either of the books when I have trouble with something will be enough?

>>138735813
読め

>>138735840
yep

I'm struggling to put together a sentence and I need some help. I know someone that's kind of sad and they say they're leaving their blog. How can I tell them that I hope they feel better and come back soon?

>>138735858
はやくなおさないとね

あとでちんちんをたべてあげる

>>138735858

「死ぬと戻りません！」

>>138735858
早く帰ってこないとどうなるか解ってんだろうなおいィ？

>>138735858
早くなおりますように。

>>138735858
元気になくなって！
直ぐ返るな！

It means:

Get well.
Come back soon.

>>138735858

>>138735936
>>138735951
>>138735967

These three are playing tricks on you friend, saying stuff like "go eat shit" and "please suck my dick.


You need to go with these. You can combine them and they mean well.

>>138735875
>>138735888

>>138735858
Just write it in English.

>>138735979
BEST FUCKING ADVICE right here.

>>138729043

U suppose to learn kanji without grammar or what?

Only systematic studying would make it worth the effort. Just Download Minnano Nihongo or something and get started. There are a few apps that would be helpful (like obenkyo) but this shit is absolutly pointless without studying program.

俺、ちんぽの感染症がある。。。痛いね。。。血尿がある。。。ペニスを切断したい。。。助けて！

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>>138736137

>>138736137
医師を見てもらえ！

How do I >tfwnogf in nipchong?

>>138736274
童貞道

>>138736274
彼女のない気持ち

>>138736274
>彼女がいないの気持ち

>>138736352
same thing bro

>>138736352

you forgot "the face when" part

>>138736441
>the face when
What?

>thread wars
you never fail to entertain DJT. i look forward to seeing how all of this will end

>>138736274
>無女気持
>むおんなけもち or むおんなきもち
>noun.
>the feeling upon having no female company

Original word, do not steal.

>>138736502

its literally just some autist going on a beta uprising because he doesn't get to have his shitty speshul edition OP image

>>138735720
>そりゃうそだ
>あはは
BTFO

(ヽ´ω`)オ令和にっぽんのアニメです！！！(●´ϖ`●)

>>138736523
>けもち
死ね

>>138736695
It's supposed to be a pun based on 女気　（おんなけ） which means "female presence".

>>138736553
In any case we should probably just stop talking about it/being baited into arguments, regardless of on which side you stand, as it seems to inevitably escalate. I'm pretty suprised by how lenient the mods have been with us these last weeks actually, all things considering.

By the power invested in me by Anki and ten of thousands of reps, this will be last post I ever make on the topic.

>>138736695
Stop. You are as bad as that autist anon.

>牝堕ち巨乳妻は俺のモノ is out
Time to grind some reading / steal some waifus.

>>138731929
>muramasa isnt really near the top of difficult text, imo
In terms of VNs I struggle to think of what could surpass it, aside from a couple mareni titles, but even they aren't so much harder to necessitate Muramasa dropping a tier.

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Learnt Japanese some time ago and did this on the wall.
Used to see this and wake up and get pumped, I stopped and now it's just there.

>>138736553
Whatever helps you sleep at night, anon.

>>138737243
>anim
Boo, boo. boo
>>138737311
>Learnt Japanese some time ago
Yeah OK

What's the Ulysses of Japan?

>>138737311
Don't know why it rotated it looks fine on my phone . Flipp it 90 degrees or tilt your head left

>>138737345
Fate Stay Night

>>138737330
I mean I was learning it actively every day and stuff then I stopped anki and everything. I still read though

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>>138737357
Say no more senpai

>>138737311
That looks like aids, ain't no one asking you to draw shit on the blackboard before graduation

>>138737330
What's wrong with that? Regardless, art is by Kou who is always top tier when it comes to mature ladies.

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>>138737311
Ah fampai, that's super shit.

>>138737464
Here we go.

>>138736523
While were doing this I'll define 私婦 to be read as ワイフ

>>138737357
It's because your shitty phone didn't actually rotate the image after you took it but displayed it to you as if it had the correct orientation. And 4chan deletes metadata.

>>138737409
>png

>>138737486
>png
Why waste both our time

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３巻までよんでみたよ

なんだかせっきょうくさい原作だなあとおもうよ

作画には艶がないとおもうよ。せっかく漫画なのにデフォルメが少なすぎて水っぽい

>>138737613
なんという漫画ですか

聖→性 is the greatest kanji substitution
Thank you, Japan

>>138738241
また一人、日本の変態文化の犠牲者が...
日本の罪は大きい

そういう外人は学術書の粘性:viscosityにも興奮しそうだなあ

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>start learning japanese
>get through close to 2k kanji
>stop because of business and the kanji catching up to me
>year later
>try again
>remember so little it's depressing
>think about how if I had stuck with it I'd be able to read simple manga at worst
>stop again

It's only going to continue like this if I don't jump back on right now. I have less time than ever to learn, but I can do it!

I'm making a promise to you DJT, today is the day I start again, wish me luck!

>>138738820
できない

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Anki showed me this same card twice in a row in core2k6k, I suppose it's normal and everyone experienced this?

Never seen anyone mentioning it around here though so I'm wondering.

>>138738820
あきらメロン

These passive voice is confusing the hell out of me. So "好きって言われた" is "I've been confessed to?"

>>138738880
Yeah. There are some exact duplicate cards in the deck. Just go in and manually delete the duplicate.

Thanks for the heads up on the particular card btw.

>>138738880
Maybe because it can also be read うんどうば？ Cores pretty bad like that

>>138738400
>>138738707
どういたしまして

>>138738966
The first : 3093 2569 2511
The second : 3260 2570 2512

>>138738974
Both are じょう here though, same exact sentence and audio.

>>138739010
Hmm weird

>>138738820
Good luck anon!

I was just learning about ようにする and how it roughly means "make an effort too"
An example it gave was like
毎日, みずを飲むようにする (this was the exact example, I'm just trying to practice a little)
How would I do this for するverbs?
For example I want to study Japanes every day.
毎日 日本語をべんべんきょうするようにする?

>>138739055
Wasn't*

>>138739055
>べんべんきょう
勉強 dawg what're you doing

>>138739055
勉強するようにする

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Why did they even bother putting in these dumb ass pictures?

>>138739234
>when you drink water

>>138739055
>べんべん
(ㆁωㆁ*)

>>138739224
Thanks

>>138739277
Oops, sorry about that, I even reread it too.

i have like 16 months left of my post-911 gi bill so i think im gonna take a language school course in japan

anyone can recommend a site where there's reviews of language schools over there?

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>>138739456

>>138739456
Jesus Christ, don't waste your money on shit before at least reaching intermediate level.

>>138739433
りっぱなにほんごだよ

太棹を撥で鳴らすときにつかうよ

>べんべん

太棹：三味線の一種

>>138739532
you dont seem to understand the concept im putting forth


i got 16 months left of basically free money to live in japan and be teached professionally

its a waste to not go

>>138737467
#triggered

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>>138739695
By a spooky skeleton?

>>138739681
>i got 16 months left of basically free money
How does that work? I wouldn't bother if you aren't already in Japan and have the ability to pocket the money.

>>138739788
>How does that work
> my post-911 gi bill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Bill#Chapter_33_.28Post-9.2F11_G.I._Bill.29

>木苺

>>138739456
http://www.languageinternational.com/school/japanese-language-institute-of-sapporo-63511

There you go.

>>138739532
>don't waste your money on shit
He can get his student visa endorsed his school, allowing him to live in an environment of total immersion for as long as he attends and stays in good academic standing.

FYI, these schools are not your average liberal arts classes. These are intensive schools designed to take people from 0 to N1 in 2 years with a focus on preparation to enter Japanese college. You "graduate" by passing N1 / EJUA.

And it will be completely free, using the military's college fund that will pay nearly 100% of the cost, including room & board.

Yeah, sounds like a really shit deal.

>>138740325
>Yeah, sounds like a really shit deal.
Being cannon fodder for the elites is a pretty shitty deal, to be honest.

I started memorizing Kanji when I finished the JLPT N5 deck and was working on the N4 deck and realized the Kanji were too similar and I was getting confused. I felt I needed to learn some Kanji in order to progress.

So, I'm currently working my way through 常用漢字 with Anki flashcards (about 1100 in now). I've read that at least a few of them are "obscure" or rarely used Kanji. Can someone with more experience chime in as to how useful memorizing all the 常用漢字 is going to be?

>>138740415
投 設 段 殺 役 股 没
just brute force them

What does 半茹 mean?

半茹での卵 is the context

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>>138740325
Yeah language schools in Japan are the real deal.

The only argument I would propose against them doesn't actually have to do with how effective they are. Rather, to me, enjoying the process of learning is more important than fast results. Studying independently for 2 years at your own pace studying material you want to will almost undoubtedly put you behind someone who went to a Japanese language school for 2 year. However, if you enjoy the process, you'll have a good time for those 2 years, immersed in compelling content and what you specifically want to learn, whereas someone in language school will undoubtedly have a bad time (just like any intensive school, really) with a lot of homework and uncompelling content. So, from my view, a language school is not good for someone wanting a good time and not minding going slower, but it's good for someone who wants to have a bad time but learn faster.

>>138740524
Slang for 華人死半茹毛扮啞吊命早晚勞動隨時捉走處決 羊年有聲書金管局, a Chinese prayer

>>138740669
なるほど~

>>138740524
>half
>boil
wow i wonder

>>138740739
Yeah guess it was pretty retarded asking, it was presented weirdly though which threw me off

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>>138740534
背表紙はあなたじゃない
付いた手垢があなたなの

I went to mine words from a word list but boy is it intimidating. When you see a word in a book it's like, yeah, gotta learn this, but a word list is just so... scary, even. It's this or mine like 5 new words a day though.

Anyway, fun fact, LOGH volume 8 and 9 have an OBI-2 reading level of 13, which is university level and the hardest level of them all (obi-2 is a scale of 1-13).

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>mfw i can understand for the most parts of japanese hentai with my actual level


Thanks god

>>138740491
了解！ 頑張ています！

>>138734348
Is that some kind of reverse baiting?

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Are these manyouganas?

>>138739234
it helps you remember specifically because they are so dumb sometimes you moron

>>138741028
No? Can't you read? He's listing adjectives.

>>138741028
>Playing a Chinese game
Top keks.

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FML, I fell asleep as soon as I started. send help

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>>138740896
>can read intermediate level stuffs now
>no longer interested in hentai manga
wew

>>138741093
Not saving reps for right before bed is literally beginner tier knowledge

>>138740534
Yeah, there's classwork, but he's living in Japan for free, so maybe that makes up for it.

Well shit's going easier than I thought, it's easier to pick up than my native tongue. Got about 120 kanji memorized so far along with god knows how many words. Grammar is such a fucking piece of cake compared to my language, holy shit.

>>138741081
That's not Chinese, there's a の over in the left.

>>138741163
>That's not Chinese, there's a の
Another valid reply
>That's not Chinese, those are all Japanese words

>叛徒
rare kanji for you rare kanji maidens

>>138741407
Nigga i'm not that advanced all I could read in that shit was stuff like small person.

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any chance I could get a hand with reading this?

I know the second kanji is 塚 (probably) but can't read the first one

tried looking it up by radicals with 夕 but couldn't find it

>>138741476
悪辣・卑劣・外道 are what made it really obvious. Not, uh, saying everyone should know the words, or anything, or that it's inexcusable not to know them, just saying.

>>138741540
baka, not everyone has been at this shit like an autismo as long as you. I only know about 120 kanji so far. I'm taking it grade by grade.

>>138741523

nevermind, please excuse my retardation

篠塚

>>138741573
What the fuck did you just say about me you fucking 悪辣卑劣外道の閹人?

>>138741596
やってみろ
っばか

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おはようおにいちゃん

おにぎりとおみそしる

おきたらおしたくができてるよ

Is there a place where you can download full VN scripts?

>>138741665
Download a kirikiri game and hope xp3 script extrator works. I can upload an example of a extracted script if you want.

So what is the best course of action after kanas
I really suck at flash cards especially when they throw like 1000 of them at you at once.

>>138741756
We have a guide dude

Anki introduces 20 cards day one, not 1,000, and slowly introduces 20 more, while keeping reviews of previously introduced cards low via SRS. I suggest you get over your distaste for flashcards because it's pretty important to use anki in my opinion.

>>138741784
Does it pick 20 of them randomly or is it some kind of weighted decision based on how difficult it is to read? I'd like to have something that starts me off with basic shit like numbers, simple shapes like person, big etc and getting harder the further you progress.

Like I don't want it to teach me fucking book or come before I even learn tree.

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>tfw studying words entirely of kanji you already know
It's like Japanese just entered easy mode.

>>138741842
Yeah I like this shit like when I encountered battery
It's a fucking electricity pond!

>>138741826
I recommend giving up before you waste any more time.

>>138741826
That entirely depends on what deck you choose. Each deck has a preset order with the option to follow that order or randomly choose cards. Core2k/6k optimized, the most commonly recommended deck, has an order based on kanji introduction, aiming to introduce simple/common kanji first and then build off that while introducing more and more kanji. Coincidentally, Core2k/6k does start off with numbers and days (though those are actually the hardest words to learn in my opinion due to janky as fuck readings).

However, you should get out of the mindset of learning simple stuff before complex stuff. Everything used frequently in Japanese is of equal important, and because you're an adult human with the intelligence of one, starting off learning like a child doesn't really help you. So you'll see stuff like "surgery" before, maybe, "purple". That's just gonna happen. There's thousands upon thousands of words, all just about equally important. You've got to learn some before others, and some are going to be more adult and complex. Not to mention that linear difficult is pretty much impossible to have in a language.

>>138741944
>It's wasting time to learn the language like the Japanese do, starting with simple shapes first and having those shapes progress into others, like learning tree first, then book, then come etc.

Fuck off retard.

>>138741974
Japanese people don't learn kanji that are easier to write first. They learn kanji with simpler meanings first because they start learning them as children.

>>138742020
My favorite is how early 書 is taught and how they haven't simplified it.

>>138741705
Yeah, does it work for most VNs?

>>138742185
>does it work for most VNs?
No, only for games that use xp3 (kirikiri mainly), and even then not always.
Nothing works for most VNs. Too many different engines, too many peculiarities.
http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=Tools

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「狭量悪辣卑劣外道佞人奸物畜獣駄六愚昧蒙昧暗迷妄者小人曲物低俗堕落、亡ハ輩の護摩の灰」」

>>138742456
can someone explain this meme again
"you are not the door" or something?

>>138742718
>needing English idioms explained
You cant learn english

I keep getting random boners when Jap bitches on hellotalk compliment me, it's a hard life being a neet

>dude wears speedo
>described as ビキニパンツ
always weirds me out how パンツ isn't as unilaterally feminine as one would imagine from English

>>138741826
My suggestion? Try WaniKani. First 3 levels or something are free. You'll learn a hundred or so words and a few dozen kanji. That'll be enough to know if you wanna keep using it. Ultimately I think WaniKani gives you something like 2000 kanji and 6000 vocab words if you decide to pay for it and go through all of the levels. It's not bad.

If you just want Kanji, download Anki, download the NihongoShark Kanji deck and start plowing through them. It takes 107 days to go through all of the Jouyou kanji at 20 per day. It's quite doable.

>>138742904
Not as weird as listening to Americans using pants to refer to trousers

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>>138742967
>Try WaniKani

>>138743005
Aren't you supposed to be in boot camp?

>>138742967
I don't mind people recommending Wanikani itself but please don't shill for it. We have the anki deck in the guide.

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Holy fuck! I just mined a word from that LOGH wordlist and not 30 minutes later saw it while reading a nukige.
怒鳴る
What a frickin coincidence. Thanks wordlists!

>>138742967
(me again >>138743054) and before I close my browser since is gonna point this out : no I don't care it's missing 10 level or something. The deck still has plenty to learn from and is enough to build a decent base of knowledge. There is no reason to pay for this.

Once again stop shilling, if you really can't help yourself then go back to berneddit, you aren't welcome here. And yeah don't lie, we know you're coming from over there, it's painfully obvious.

>>138741842
Learning all these kanji finally pay off

xの思い

x's thoughts? x's sentiments? x's love?

which one is it fuck

>>138731854
Thanks, friend. I think you're funny and have a large penis.

>>138743276
Ｘの思い
Ｘの想い
are two different things.

>>138743465

so which one is it

jisho says 思い can mean anything from thoughts to sentiments to love to affection

>>138742967
>NihongoShark
jesus christ how horrifying

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So what's up with this?

>>138743576
delet it

>>138743576
Dunno I guess some people just have superior eyes that can somehow endure staring at that colour for more than 5 seconds

>>138743576
>This colour scheme
Jesus christ what are you doing anon?

>>138743744
>>138743775
How can you expect to learn Japanese without a yellow background?

Begun reading a while ago, sometimes I encounter a sentence where I don't understand 100% of it but mainly get the gist of it, should I just move on and say fuck it or look up every single detail with the DOJG?

So the question is move on or read a chapter of a manga at a even slower pace?

Would be nice to hear some input on how other anons handled that.

>all these bathrooms
do we really need so many words for such a simple room

>>138743874
Look up every single detail (if it's as easy as finding it in the index or simply googling it, more obscure stuff is a definite ignore at lower levels). If you look it up now you won't have to later. That simple.

>>138743874
I think really trying your best to get all of it is more beneficial, and will result in you improving faster, but it also could potentially be discouraging and irritating

Just skipping it and moving on is also beneficial in the sense that you'll be exposed to more shit in a shorter period of time, and will potentially have a more fun time doing it

>>138743874
Obviously move the fuck on

Why make it harder for yourself? It's going to be annoying as fuck.

>>138744059
>Why make it harder for yourself
To learn Japanese dude

>>138744090
You're going to reach that goal as long as you don't give up. What makes you feel like giving up? Compulsively looking up grammar terms even though you already understand the sentence, excessive flash cards, trying to grind through multiple decks at once and more. The choice is simple, really.

>>138743921
Sometimes I am not really sure how to look up stuff because it is just stupid slang the character uses and that throws me off.

>>138743974
>but it also could potentially be discouraging and irritating

Yes looking up everything can get boring really fast, maybe I will look up stuff in one chapter and skip looking up things in the next?
It surely will work out somehow.
Probably.

>>138744059
It seems I always choose the hard options.

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Posting monthly retention rates with yellow background.
What now, greyfags?

>>138744205
I bet it's not even a vocab deck

>>138744150
That is a lot of sophistry to avoid looking up stuff you don't understand.
>even though you already understand the sentence
Getting the gist is far from understanding the sentence.

>>138743874
There's really a balance to be struck here. You should certainly be looking some things up, but if you're slowing yourself down to the point where you're only consuming a fraction of the content you otherwise could be, you're probably doing more harm than good.

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>>138744235

>>138744188
>stupid slang
Google it, if nothing comes up, move on.
If it's just slurring, you'll never understand it until you're used to the word being slurred so you have no choice but to move on.

>>138744246
Sure, whatever suits you.

>>138744266
If he has to look up so much grammar that he's moving at a fraction of the pace, then he's so knee deep in beginner level that he should be spending more time reading about grammar than reading.

>>138744311
Nah, even intermediates will have lots of problems with grammar when moving from easy manga to LNs/VNs/books for example.

>>138734921
Making up your own mnemonics works, if you can recognize the components. It's not like making up kanji mnemonics is some superhuman task that only someone with years of specialized training can do.

>>138744362
I would not call those people intermediates. Having trouble wrapping around a sentence? Sure, happens to everyone. But flat-out not knowing grammar and having to look it up, to the point of spending more time reading about grammar than reading text? Hella beginner.

>>138744311
I need around 90 minutes (give or take 10) for a whole volume of a manga.
With looking up grammar points it easily skyrockets to way more, I already think im slow.

>>138737481
I think the actual usual equivalent term is 俺の嫁.

>>138744485
What a crazy idea, that speeding through text you barely understand is faster than actually attempting to learn what the text within means.

>>138744431
It's not as if once you get out of the beginner stage you automatically know every Japanese grammar point in existence, there are still plenty of grammar rules that give intermediates problems, hell even in more advanced levels people have to look up grammar occasionally

>>138744431
からというもの
そばから
がてら

Here are a bunch of N1 grammar words. Intermediates are not going to know these because a lot of them are used very sparingly. The meaning of sentences can be easily understood through context, but an intermediate might be compelled to look up all of these words.

Of course, if one is a beginner (which can be easily determined by what one is reading), clarifying all doubts with a dictionary is a must.

>>138744573
>there are still plenty of grammar rules that give intermediates problems
The grammar points which give intermediates problems can easily be googled and are not the majority of what they see.
>occasionally
Yes. Occasionally, as in not spending the majority or even a significant amount of time doing so.
>>138744595
>because a lot of them are used very sparingly.
And thus, it won't take a big chunk of time to research them, so what's the problem? They are simple to google and learn. It seems you and the other guy got the misconception that I'm saying you can't be intermediate unless you know all grammar. I'm not. I'm saying not knowing grammar points is a very minor issue for intermediates precisely because, as you say, the rare stuff is used sparingly. And is nonetheless easy to learn if they google it, and not time consuming. Where's the problem?

>>138744525
It is not like I don't understand, it is more like I don't get the fine small details, maybe I should just read more and look up stuff.
It is a marathon not a race at least I like to think so.

>>138744794
>And is nonetheless easy to learn if they google it, and not time consuming. Where's the problem?

Er, nobody said anything about spending more time looking up grammar than reading, just it getting annoying

>>138744878
> but if you're slowing yourself down to the point where you're only consuming a fraction of the content you otherwise could be, you're probably doing more harm than good.
>Nah, even intermediates will have lots of problems with grammar
>I would not call those people intermediates. Having trouble wrapping around a sentence? Sure, happens to everyone. But flat-out not knowing grammar and having to look it up, to the point of spending more time reading about grammar than reading text? Hella beginner.
And so on and so on. I beseech you, please read the discussions you participate in.

>>138744801
>it is more like I don't get the fine small details,
I.e. you don't understand and fill in the blanks with guessing. If you have to look up so much grammar that time spent reading skyrockets, I can only imagine how much you're not understanding.