One Piece

>>134085172
Lets see what I don't know. Why op is shit?, why doesn't oda just drop fuckinf dead even after I used my 23rd birthday wish on it? Why do people ask why all the time?

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>>134085348
Did you miss taking your sedative pills today or why are you so angry?

>What happens on moon lit nights?
Isn't it full moon's that something happens? Presumably werewolfish shenanigans

>>134085433
if powermangas translation is anything to go by Wanda says moonlit nights

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>>134085526

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>Why is it okay to fap to Madam Shirley's shark butt but not Carrot's bunny bumps?

>>134085559
Penguin and Shachi are fat

>>134085172
How about why the fuck does Kaido want Raizou? That seems pretty fucking interesting to me.

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HOUSTON WE HAVE A CAST-OFF

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>>134085727
So is Bepo, but he carries it well.

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>>134086621
Are they fucking serious with that waistline?

>>134086856
Yes, since the author is as well

>>134086856
it's canon.

>>134086856
You do read One Piece, do you?

How can a thread with such a decent topic turn into such a cancerfest?

>>134088029
"Decent" topic already discussed

>>134082859
Your not even using my trip code. Pls

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We could also talk about which card game inspired members of Jacks crew we'd like to see.

Why is Mammoth Mogul in One Piece?

Looking to re-read the entire series on the go. Which site has the best uploads? Mangareader?

>>134088852
kissmanga

I don't like this so far.

The storytelling is a mess.

Sanji fan here

I'm literally a model and in a band
I've probably fucked girls hotter than you've ever seen in person

>>134088980
How? This kind of storytelling is pretty common and it is a refreshing change that Oda takes a different approach for this arc

>>134088933
I'm looking at the latest release and hit has watermarks from mangapanda and mangastream splattered all over. Why do you say kissmanga?

>>134089090

Yes, everything is amazing in every arc. Oda is a genius.
I agree.

>>134088852
kissmanga has the most complete colored version
if you just want the OG stuff any site will do

>>134088980
What is messy about it? Oda gave the reader hints at the start of the arc and now explains bit by bit what happened in detail.

>>134088980
at least it's not dressrosa with 15 things going on at once

>>134089185
Why do you have to react like a sulky kid tho?

>>134089200
Oh, okay. Yeah I'm just looking for the black and white as it will be on an e-reader. Thanks.

one piece is so gay.
they spend 500 episodes trying to find the one piece when they could go to KFC and get a 3 piece combo with a side of fries and a medium sized coke for 5.99 + tax

>>134089282
cringe/10

>>134089282
>+ tax
why is this a thing? why can't they just include it in the advertised price? would make it easier for everyone

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Post yfw they decide to make a full collection of these figures specifically Doffy and Kid

>>134080029
>>134084036
You newfags do know that the Tokyo Ghoul meme only became a meme after someone said it for real and it went on the Dressrosa arc one right? This thing isnt a display for forced memes. It's more for ridiculous things that come out in real conversation that we can make fun of.

>>134089887
I'm aware. But I want to make fun of it forever.

>>134085172
Who is Raizo
Why is Raizo targeted
How did Kaido's men know to look for him on Zou
Why did Raizo harm the minks by hiding on their island letting them be tortured and killed and their country get destroyed

>>134090023
Well, Zou was the original destination of the samurai. So another question would be, what's on Zou?

>>134085172
>>Who was tortured by Jack?

I think it's pretty obvious that it was Pedro.

>>134089887
>Doffy is Admiral level
Seems true based on the events of Punk Hazard and Dressrosa. It's unreasonable to believe he couldn't put up a good fight against an admiral.
>Luffy can't stop him
Clearly false.
>Sanji a shit
Most annoying one on your list but it did start out unironically posted.
>There's too much happening at once.
shitposting forced meme
>post more Dellinger
cancer
>I want to rub oil on BB's hairy ass
sides were orbital
>Nami sameface
Most falsely propogated
>implying hancock won't win the luffyball
She will just because she'll just make everyone believe it's true.
>Luffy already won the Lawbowl
most obscure
>read more mature stuff like Tokyo Ghoul
You're right about that.

>>134090004
Your not making fun of the 'Doffyfags BTFO' shitposter though. You're just acknowledging him. It's a forced meme that the same person posts over and over again to rile people up and get attention. It's not something that some faggot says that's so stupid that other fags can make a meme or copypasta out of. Whoever made the Zou one is just slapping on a bunch of forced memes which isnt the original point of that picture.

>>134090320
Then again, it turned out true that base Luffy could not stop Doflamingo, Gear 4 had to be revealed and still wasn't enough until he had a flashback and pulled out King Kong Gun.

You think Kizaru and Aojiji got along?

Wow, worst thread in years. Be proud of yourself faggots.

>>134091319
in private yes, at work not really.

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BASED MODS

>>134091319
They were the Cheech and Chong of the Marines.

>>134089795
>male Nami & Robin figs never ever

>>134089795
Post pictures?

>no fun allowed

Fucking thank you mods.

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>>134092627
I want her to put a suppository in my ass

>>134092814
that wouldn't be healthy

LMAO
M
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>Sabo? This is Hack.
Wow, Oda seriously went and wrote himself into the story just like that?

>>134093286
oda is a fishman?
that explains alot

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>tfw no strong furwaifu that kicks ass while I stay at home in the kitchen preparing dinner

>>134090320
Doflamingo isn't admiral level? Being able to put up a fight against one doesn't mean you're on par.

am i banned

>>134093286
you make me laugh every time

>>134080253
>Oda should have shown Jack transforming to give him a more memorable, scarier reveal. He could have shown his transformation as striking alarm and terror in the hearts of the minks. His hair is dumb and his overall design is underwhelming, much like most of Oda's more recent characters. He just looks like a generic mammoth with goofy hair. He and kaidou's SMILE soldiers got dehyped massively this chapter. You can't dehype and give a poor reveal to your upcoming arc villains. Look at how well Enel was revealed: he came across as an invincible god. Kaidou's army and officers come across merely as incompetent zoan users. Not scary or threatening in the least.

How can you say him being a "generic mammoth" is underwhelming? All zoans in their full animal form look exactly like their standard animal. All Lucci was was a normal leopard; all Kaku was later was a standard giraffe. We still haven't seen Jack's hybrid form (most intimidating) nor his human reveal (which seems pretty cool to be honest). The only thing you're basing that on it his hair, which barely even matters because Franky had the same hairstyle for half of Dressrosa.

You know, if you think about it, Brook's a nigger

Legendary+: Roger, prime Whitebeard
Legendary: prime Garp
Legendary-: old Whitebeard
Admiral++: Blackbeard, Shanks, Kaidou, prime Sengoku, prime Raylegh
Admiral+: Akainu, old Garp
Admiral: Aokiji, Kizaru, Big Mom, old Sengoku
Admiral-: Fujitora, Mihawk, Marco, old Raylegh
Admiral--: G4 Luffy, Sabo, Weeble, Inuarashi, Jack (?)

>>134094002
fuck off

where is the god damn japanese drawn porn of the minks

>>134092323
It's clear by now one of the mods is a huge One Piece fan

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>>134093995
How so? His real life place of origin would be Austria.

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Could Kizaru cook another?

>>134094325
>Toriko
literally who?

>>134088980
What? The whole series?

>>134094325
i dropped toriko tbqh

>>134094325
another what?

>>134094426
He means Zou. Seems like he just has bad perception though.

>>134094505
Another is a fish in Toriko that's faster than the speed of light.

I still want to know more details on Jack's attempt at recapturing Doflamingo.

This whole fucking arc is gonna take months until just to explain what happened in 2 weeks.

>>134094601
Stop being such an impatient faggot

>>134094002
old rayleigh is too low

Kizaru is the one that got hurt in their clash. Rayleigh was on the defensive worrying about the strawhats. The strawhats got sent away. Rayleigh went back to drinking. Kizaru left with his tail between his legs. garp laughed at Kizaru trying to fight against Rayleigh

>>134094601
I remember when it took years until we knew what the outcome of Ace vs BB was, so what?

>>134094002
>Kaido
>Not Legendary+

>>134094178
He's always struck me as the blackest an Oda can get

>>134093656
There's no evidence he'd lose to one though, and it's obvious he could fight one. If an admiral can't shut you down then you're at least on the same level.

>>134094955
Yeah let's ignore the fact that he ran away from Aokiji and Fujitora casually blocked his kick like it was nothing.

Admit it, Doflamingo is below an admiral.

>>134094955
He would lose to one in the end though. I'm not saying he's not very strong, but he wouldn't beat an admiral if they were serious against him.

>>134094002
I wonder how Oda is gonna nerf Kizaru's broken ass ability.

>also test for b&

>>134095103
based mods

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>>134094002

Kek. G4 Luffy was getting it's ass kicked for 20 min by a severely weakened Dofflamingo. Unless you mean he can magically spam King Kong gun without tiring, he's weaker.

Also Doffy is admiral level. Get over it faggots.

>>134095045
>Fujitora casually blocked his kick like it was nothing.

Fuji unsheathed his sword just to block a casual kick, Doflamingo's shoe wasn't even nicked from making contact with an Admiral's blade. Just like Sanj's Diable Jambe, Premiere Hachies, and the Spectre didn't singe a single feather in Doflamingo's coat.

I think Dofla came off better in that exchange, laughing at Fuji's threat and suggesting he'll kill him too. Fuji just shut his mouth and walked away.

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>>134095151
>Admiral level

>>134095151
And worst thing is that doffy hard counter luffy hard, rubber is weak against cuts, specially if the rubber is being stretched

Too bad doflamingo didnt have plot armor to beat luffy

>>134095151
>Also Doffy is admiral level. Get over it faggots.
Prove it. Neither admiral he encountered actually gave a shit about him, and Kuzan could have literally killed him then and there before he could even slice Smoker.

>>134095271
What was he meant to block it with? He's a blind man who wields it for a reason.
>I think Dofla came off better in that exchange, laughing at Fuji's threat and suggesting he'll kill him too. Fuji just shut his mouth and walked away.
So if Ussop says he can kill a Yonkou, is it true? I think you also missed the part where Fujitora said he wouldn't touch Doflamingo because it wasn't in his interests.

You think gear 4 is bad? Wait until you see gear 5. It's so strong that it has 98% chance to kill Luffy and it can destroy 4 yonkou in a line. Of course Luffy survives on the 2% chance.

>>134095433
>You think gear 4 is bad?
Uh, no.

>>134095403
too bad G4 Luffy is immune to cutting attacks

>>134095403
>rubber is weak against cuts

No it's not, it's just that Luffy is more immune to blunt attacks, so cutting is what works against him. It's not an explicit weakness because cutting works against anyone.

Hell Luffy can even use haki to break swords now like he did with his head against Doffy and Rebecca.

>>134095271

It's pretty obvious fighters at that level know each others well enough and are wise enough not to engage themselves in a pointless fight. The exception of a few hot headed ones like Akainu, Jack and the likes.

Fuji backed down because he didn't want to be credited in the slightest. Ao Kiji backed down for real tho, same as Doffy.

>>134095403
>rubber is weak against cuts
I love this meme

>>134095151
>G4 Luffy was getting it's ass kicked for 20 min by a severely weakened Dofflamingo.
Bitch where? Normal Luffy yeah but G4 was too much.

>>134095519
>Hell Luffy can even use haki to break swords now like he did with his head against Doffy and Rebecca.
reminder that Rebeccas sword was blunt

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>>134095604
Didn't she have a new sword by that time?

>>134095549
I disagree therefore it's a meme xp

>>134095649
no, she never lost her sword or anything

>>134095403

Haki cancels the whole thing in this case. Doffy is also a kick based fighter.

>>134095376
>>134095408

Because he wants to fight an admiral right now when there's 2 terrorists heading for his Island? What happened the last time two admiral level character fought each other?

Ao Kiji couldn't even Freeze him from his back, he shrugged off the whole attack.

>>134095549
cutting rubber with a decent knife is pretty easy desu
unless you're talking about vulcanized rubber

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immune against

>>134095602

Literally the pic you are quoting and the pages afterward. It took him 20 min to land a single hit that didn't even knock Doffy out.

>Luffy can cover his weakness getting cut and pierced by memermament haki.
>Shanks loses his arm by the time he was stronger than Luffy

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>>134095727
cutting attacks

>>134095639
I miss Buggy, Kizaru, and Apoo

>>134095767
Since when is Shanks rubber?

>>134095773

How can people deny he's admiral level when he does shit like that like it's a stretching and birdcage

>>134095649
That was Kyros.

>>134095698
>Ao Kiji couldn't even Freeze him from his back, he shrugged off the whole attack.
He literally only did that to stop Doffy from killing Smoker and to scare him off. Even Buffalo made comment that he didn't freeze him to the core. He literally placed a layer of ice over him to stop his movements, nothing more.

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>>134095773
That's saving Kyros. Other instances have Luffy blocking Doffy's kicks.

1/2

>>134095767
>still thinking armament haki can block attacks with sharp objects

>>134095860
Kaku did the same at EL. As did Ryuma at TB. Are they admiral level too?

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>>134095884
>>134095773

>>134095884
Thats not a cutting kick though

>>134095773
Luffy could be cut by top tier slashes but his primary weakness is being pierced, as shown when Doflamingo successfully pierced him with his divine string, but never slashed him, even though he's known to slash people.

>>134095884
>>134095935
Luffy vs Doffy was truly a great fight. I hope the anime does a special soon after they finish the arc so that we can see it properly animated.

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>>134095935
after receiving that kick Luffy bled

>>134095931

Escept 3 times less powerful and a named attack that took a lot of preparation.

Dofflamingo just swings his feet for fun and does that.

>>134095860
high destructive capacity does not equal admiral level.

Otherwise Enel would be Yonko or Pirate King tier.

>>134095767
Actually even un roided Hodi could bite through Luffy's COA.

>>134095902

>strings that can cut buildings in half pointed directly at a rubber mans fist
>rubber fist overpowers awakened strings.

Each of those strings were like needles. If anything it should've rip luffy's hand apart.

>>134096002
Hmm maybe you're right then, I'll go and find the scene where he blocks Rebecca's sword and check if it was her blunt sword or not.

>>134096005
He's got regenerative capacity and even Gear 4's arsenal couldn't harm Doflamingo in a serious way until King Kong Gun, which I think would harm an admiral if it hit them.

I can't imagine Kuzan just taking a King Kong Gun and saying that it just tickled him.

>>134096022
>If anything it should've rip luffy's hand apart.
yes, and Luffy should have died from bloodloss against Croc and from being stabbed right through with a giant hook. Remeber this is One Piece you are reading?

>>134095872
>He literally only did that to stop Doffy from killing Smoker and to scare him off.

Absolutely no reason to hold back. If he could have killed in one hit he would have. To avert the whole crisis he was shitting himself about.

>Even Buffalo made comment that he didn't freeze him to the core.

He just said that Dofflamingo wasn't frozen to the core. Not that Ao Kiji held back. It's not just Doffy's resilience just like Whitebeard tanking a similar attack and lava without apparent armament haki.

>>134096061

Croc went easy on Luffy.

>>134096057
>He's got regenerative capacity

You mean he died and had to restart his heart, while other characters like Whitbeard, Blackbeard and Akainu can tank the world and back.

>>134096113
When I go easy on someone I do not use my huge ass hook to turn him into fishbait

>>134096005
>Otherwise Enel would be Yonko or Pirate King tier.

Enel? You joking?

Nigga couldn't even kill a fucking civilian with his Thor attack or something. He can blow off a sky Island at best because they basically have no structure but his electricity would feel like tickle to any strong fighter of the New World.
Plus he needs a whole bunch of gadgets to make it work.

Dofflamingo's cage was actively fought by thousands of fighter and it was still about to crush them.

>>134096197
>Nigga couldn't even kill a fucking civilian with his Thor attack or something
Nigga, you are reading a series where nobody dies outside of flashbacks, remember?

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>>134096057
Sakazuki took a shit ton of quake punches and came out fine in the end. Those punches are probably 5x stronger than G4 ones. Don't underestimate admirals.

>>134096110
>Absolutely no reason to hold back. If he could have killed in one hit he would have. To avert the whole crisis he was shitting himself about.
He had no reason to kill him and interfere with the world, especially when Doffy is part of the WG and it may make him a wanted man.
>It's not just Doffy's resilience just like Whitebeard tanking a similar attack
Not really. WB was locked in a dense block of ice and only broke out with his quake. Doffy was covered in a minute layer probably no thincker than 1cm.

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>>134096044
>>134096002
Judging from the conversation it seems that Rebecca's sword in pic related is sharp, so it's likely a new one.

1/2

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>>134096261
Compared to the surface covering Kuzan did to Doffy.

>>134096239

Still Enel is Grand Line has been. His attacks took preparation and they still could be tanked for a little while by the pre timeskip strawhats.

Any attack from Dofflamingo would disintegrate a pre timskip strawhat on the spot.

That's what was gonna happen when Kizaru showed up anyway. A taste of an actual New World power house.

>>134096322
No, but even a swing to the head with Rebeccas blunt sword would have killed Viola

>>134096322
It was the very same sword she fought in the colosseum with; her blunt one. Being hit in the head by the thin edge of even a blunt blade would crack someone like Voila's skull in half.

>>134096357
>Still Enel is Grand Line has been. His attacks took preparation and they still could be tanked for a little while by the pre timeskip strawhats.
The only attack of Enel that took more than a second was Raigou, which is an attack powerful enough to blow islands out of existence (ie the SHs wouldn't stand a chance, not even Luffy)

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>>134096044
>>134096002
>>134096322

>>134096261

You missed my point. The point is that character can survive being covered by Ao Kiji's ice even if he actively tried to kill them.

There is no reason to think he held back.

>He had no reason to kill him and interfere with the world,

He encouraged smoker to warn Akainu asap. If he could so casually get rid of this threat with just a single backstab, he would have.

But somehow you believe the ruler of the New World's trade, Schibukai, and someone who had vice admirals as underlings can be killed like a moskito by any NW powerhouse.

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>>134096463
yeah, it is her blunt sword

Can someone explain G4 to me? Why does Luffy inflate his belly but does not cover it with armament haki as well?

>>134096461
>which is an attack powerful enough to blow islands out of existence

*sky Islands. No reason to believe strong fighters would be harmed by the attack beyond falling into the clouds.

>The only attack of Enel that took more than a second was Raigou

Many of his attacks require him meddling with that device he has attached to himself. Electricity doesn't appear to be as profuse as fire, ice or lava. Like light or gas it requires some sort of convergence to make a hiken sort of attack.

I could be wrong because my most recent memories are the anime in this case and the manga is too far back. But don't make me quote the pages if I'm right and you deny it cus I will be merciless.

>>134096123
Whitebeard's internal organs were destroyed and he died not long after that. But I agree both Doflamingo and Whitebeard were able to keep fighting even after their organs were destroyed. I'm not sure how this comparison makes Doflamingo look weak.

>>134096604
Probably the case then

>>134096791
He inflated himself to be lighter and thus getting faster, a haki covered belly would have slowed him down

>>134096891
You mean when Doffy repaired his organs.

>inb4 repaired

If they aren't repaired he would be dead on the marine ship.

>>134096791
Law and Cavendish stated he was already using too much haki at once.

>>134096261
I don't think quake punches are that much stronger than King Kong Gun.

You're delusional if you think Kuzan held back in saving his friend's life. He tried to freeze Doflamingo's heart but he couldn't.

>>134096575
>There is no reason to think he held back.
What about the fact that he didn't freeze Doflamingo in a way to kill? If you recall Long Ring Long Land, we saw that he has the ability to easily freeze people right though their entire body, which is impossible to break out of and requires being thawed. If he freezes people to the core it can kill them instantly, which was why Buffalo was so relieved to find out that he wasn't. It was nothing but a thin coating of ice to stop him in his tracks, and wasn't even the same as the one he barraged Whitebeard in.

It was just simply not his place or in his interests to kill Doflamingo, similar to how Fujitora didn't want to the one to defeat him.

>But somehow you believe the ruler of the New World's trade, Schibukai, and someone who had vice admirals as underlings can be killed like a moskito by any NW powerhouse.
I don't think that. In the case of Kuzan's speed being able to freeze opponents in a milisecond, it it quite advtantageous against many opponents to take them quickly. In an actual fight I don't deny Doflamingo could do alright, however I don't believe he'd win because he's not on par, but instead a bit below (as is Luffy).

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>>134096791
>>134096907


Can someone explain gear 3 to me? How does adding a few hundred oz of air change anything? At best it's a few lbs of air added to his attack but spread out over a wide surface and therefore less effective.

>>134096965
If he tried to freeze his heart then why wouldn't the ice have even penetrated and frozen his flesh, as it did to Robin and Luffy?

>>134096958
>If they aren't repaired he would be dead on the marine ship.
He should have been dead after being knocked out since the strings should have disappeared that held his organs together. But I guess it is just a One Piece thing since nobody dies when it isn't something world shaking.

>>134096965
Wasn't Smoker also in the vicinity? He wouldn't want to freeze Smoker to death either.

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>>134095433
oh boy. I think I could almost believe you on that.

>>134097002
>What about the fact that he didn't freeze Doflamingo in a way to kill?

No offense but it's your headcanon in this case. We really can't tell but there's no reason for Ao Kiji to go soft on a monster like Doffy.
Doffy is resilient and therefore his body prevented it from freezing. The same reason Jinbei would stop Akainu's magma fist with his palm for a single strike. Basic biology and physics don't apply. It's One Piece nonsensical things like this happens all the time.

> similar to how Fujitora didn't want to the one to defeat him.

Ao Kiji is not trying to take down the Schibukai system. It's obvious he has better things to do now than trying to stop Dofflamingo but no reason to spare him if it's that easy to kill him.

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Over it's thousand year life, Zou has traveled the whole world. During it's travels, it's eaten every type of fish in existence, but it's stomach doesn't work normally, so they aren't digested right away.

Zou's stomach is All-Blue, and Sanji went inside it to find it.

>>134097418
Sanji already found All Blue in Fishman Island though.

Remember that time Luffy used an attack called King Kong Gun on Doflamingo and BTFO him?

Good times

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>Admiral Level

will this shit ever end? Or are we stuck with it until the end of times?

>>134095602
>Normal Luffy yeah but G4 was too much
do you even read? Doffy ass devastated normal luffy. Gear 4 luffy wasn't even able to defeat an extremely weakened doflamingo before the time limit was up..

So Kaido and his crew are based on Card Games.

>Kaido
In Japan, "Card" is pronounced as "Kādo". He could also be argued as the "King" card.
>Jack
The Jack card and the game Black Jack.
>Diez (X) Drake
The 10 card, the one following after the Jack card.
>Sheepshead
Card game called Sheepshead
>Scotch
Card game called Scotch Whist
>Ginrummy
Card game called Gin Rummy

Also, Doflamingo was an ally of Kaido, and he's the joker card.

>>134097515
remember that time shitposters did not flood in one piece thread?

good times

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>>134097566
I do not.

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>>134097535
It's a lost cause, you're going to have a whole bunch of people screaming to you that king kong gun would oneshot 100% Doflamingo in no time.

I thought we had left this whole debate behind. What happened?

is sengoku even that strong?
he did jack shit at marineford

>>134097535
Yes I read .Did you? It said G4 Luffy was getting his ass kicked. How does Luffy not beating the shit out of Mingo equate to getting his ass kicked when Doffy couldn't land a good blow until the limit was reached?

>>134097537
>The 10 card, the one following after the Jack card.

Would drake be one of the 3 disasters or just below?

Being one would make him stronger than Luffy atm, probably, given what we've seen of Jack and Dofflamingo would certainly have reasons to be afraid of Kaido's forces.

>>134096322
Nigger, are you stupid ? Just because it's blunt doesn't it's made out of styrofoam, you know.

>>134097519
They forgot his white hair

>>134097617
I think it's just that one "epic doffyfag btfo xD" guy shitting up the thread by bringing it up every time.

Anyone who's read dressrosa knows full well that a health luffy cannot defeat a healthy doflamingo.

>>134097642
I wasn't the guy you originally responded to, doflamingo couldn't hurt gear 4 luffy but luffy at the same time can't defeat doflamingo before the time limit is up. Doffy > luffy.

>>134097642
because when the time limit ended Luffy would have been dead in a 1vs1. His G4 is his ultimatum. If he doesn't manage to win the fight and has no one to support him, he's in big troubles.

Had he not had a whole fucking island covering his back from enraged Mingo while he was recharging from G4, he would've been slaughtered on the spot. That's not equal to 'getting your ass kicked', it's merely a 'he was about to get fucking murdered'

>>134097653
I doubt Luffy's ever going to be weaker than any of the Supernovas. At most I could see him tying with Kidd.

>>134097566
>posts on 4chan
>doesn't expect constant shitposting

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>>134085172

Were the Whitebeard pirates the only crew without a distinct theme?

>>134097607
me neither anon. Me neither.

>>134097751
I'd love to see Kidd being on par with Luffy. Maybe some other too, but even just him would be fine.

>>134097709
>I wasn't the guy you originally responded to
well then try not to hop in others arguments if you're incapable of reading them. I don't give a fuck if Doffy > Luffy because G4 > Doffy.

>>134097653
That implies that all 3 calamities are equally strong when nothing has suggested that. For all we know, they might just have destructive abilities.

>>134093911
kaku wasn't a standard giraffe at all. he was a square giraffe.

>>134097709
>Anyone who's read dressrosa knows full well that a health luffy cannot defeat a healthy doflamingo.

But this is wrong. Before Gear Four their fight was pretty even. Luffy could hit him with speed but the punches lacked power, but when he tried to use Gear Third (grizzly magnum) Luffy's attacks became too slow and he was vulnerable.

After Gear 4th Luffy had Doffy on the ropes except for when he was surprised with devil fruit awakening.

>>134097607
>Who said Naruto characters breathe?
Holy fuck, I had forgotten that cunt. What was the context of this? I remember it said that it looked like Orihime.

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>>134097751

Isn't Law stronger than Luffy?

>>134097782
Do the strawhats have a theme?

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reminder that oda endorses rule 63

>>134097831
Yes. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.

>>134097782
being a family was their theme

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>>134097801
not in his normal animal form

>>134097831
Maybe normal Luffy, but G4 Luffy could kick his ass.

>>134097376
>Doffy is resilient and therefore his body prevented it from freezing.

gonna have to ask you to source this. Because it sounds like bullshit

>>134097801
That was his half-half form. His full giraffe form looked like a normal giraffe.

>>134097831
Remember how Law vs Doffy went and how Luffy vs Doffy went.

>>134097782
Arlong Pirates ? Krieg pirates ? Bellamy pirates ? Moria's TB crew ?

Hell, what was the Donquixote Pirates' theme ?

>>134097802
What? Before their fight doflamingo despite being weakened by law was dominating luffy, luffy wasn't able to deal any sort of significant damage to him, and when he tried using gear 3 he was simply too slow. Doflamingo was kicking him around in the meanwhile.

Gear 4 totally ruined doffy, I think even if doflamingo was healthy that luffy in gear 4 could beat him around, but the fact is that luffy after giving it his all in gear 4 couldn't beat a WEAKENED doflamingo let alone a healthy one before the time limit was up. After the time limit doflamingo can simply kill luffy provided there's no plot armor.

Doflamingo > Luffy in a fair fight.

>>134097919
Law let himself get trashed to prepare the Gamma Knife move though

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>>134097832

The Marines have a theme (obviously)

Kaido has a theme

Big Mom has the whole wonderland theme

Blackbeard has the classiest old school Buccaneer theme.

Shanks seems to be like a gigantic strawhat/Roger crew.

Whitebeard pirates didn't appear to have any.

>>134095376

translation error. in the raws it's
>ZEHAAHAAHAA

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>hype Jack for weeks
>turns out he got wrecked trying to save Mingo
>turns out he was getting tooled by a bunch of furries until he detonated a gas bomb

>>134097961
He didn't. And that wasn't even their first fight.

>>134097869


Law would just cut Luffy in half like vergo

>>134097955
that's the part people seem to forget. Luffy didn't even manage to defeat a severely weakened doflamingo with Gear 4 and would have been murdered in a fair fight, yet they seem to think they're somehow on par. The reason is still beyond me.


Luffy does not necessarily need to be as strong as every single enemy he encounters and you people really should stop enforcing that point of view. Reread the fight with Mingo and then tell me honestly if you think the two were on par with each other. He heavily relies on friends, alliances, trust, and all that. That's his greatest power. I thought it was clear?

>>134097995
This. Oda's run out of creative juices it seems and can only make 'goofy looking guy #46' sort of characters.

>>134098000
Law admitted that he got too emotional against Doffy in their first fight

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>>134097995
>people want another island where the entirety of the natives are weak shit
Are people that surprised the strongest Mink could beat Jack?

>>134097995
>>134098039
samefag please

>jack the drought
>crocodile literally causes droughts
>doesn't get a cool epithet
>kicked out of the new world

Being crocoboy is suffering

>>134097937

I'm speaking of Yonko here. Those are obviously not world powers.

Well Dofflamingo is kinda supposed to look like one of those wacky pirate crews.

>>134085396
>falling for crappy pseudo-bait

Thread already started with newfags, what a shame.

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>>134097653
Yeah, I personally believe he's one of the calamities. I don't know if he'd be above Luffy, he's probably just behind Jack since he's the right hand man of Kaido. But yeah I said ages ago that I expect Jack and Drake to be two division commanders of Kaido, and I even said it'd be cool if they were all ancient zoans.

>>134097800
Yeah, I'd say that the 3 calamities are like a monster trio, but are not 100% equal, similar to Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Especially with Jack as the right hand man to Kaido, I'd say Drake is the second calamity followed by whoever is the third. All with slight differences in strength though.

>>134097832
Maybe either animals or their powers, (such as wind, ice, fire, etc)

>>134098036
Yep, luffy won because of plot which includes law setting the stage as well as having the whole island behind him.

Though the argument that luffy can't beat doflamingo on his own is hypothetical, it's a fact that some people here can't seem to accept, there are literal retards here who can't read and understand a manga for 12 year olds

>>134097995
We have been over this. Your bait does not work anymore.

>>134098058

Kaido's right hand man beaten by some no-name furry?

This would be the equivalent of Marco getting handcuffed by some no-name vice admiral.

>>134098050
So what? Even then, all his planning amounted to nothing and Luffy was the one who had to do everything. Law even admitted that to his crew, and had a face of admiration when he saw Luffy's final attack.

>>134098113
>replying to posts that are hours old

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>>134097782
Being homosexual fujobait was their theme

>>134097847
Who's going to get genderbent next?

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>>134085172


There are people in this thread, right now, that don't think Dofflamingo is Admiral level.

>>134098168
>not replying to posts that are just a few hours old
>on a imageboard

Hi, newfag, how's your shitty forum going today?

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>>134097847
>wow those Tenryuubito are so unfashionable
kek

I want to be fem!killers friend.

>>134098137
>no-name furry
He's literally their strongest fighter, and only no name because Zou is secluded
It's like calling Enel no-name because next to no one goes Sky Islands

Also, yes, hilarious joke

>>134098124
>he's probably just behind Jack since he's the right hand man of Kaido

Is this confirmed?

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where's my kizaru at? stop sitting and wasting time and get into action you stupid laser man.

>>134098130
you should just ignore them really. It's been going on for months and it ain't gonna stop anytime soon.

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>>134098155
>Even then, all his planning amounted to nothing

I still can't believe that Law was made a D. It makes sense to tie him as Doffy's enemy, but in the end it amounted to nothing. I hope that Oda doesn't start handing out Ds like crazy, I'd rather he gave around Haoushoku than Ds.

>>134098030
He's too slow

>>134098196
>friend

*Tips fedora

>>134098225
I foresee, just like about everyone else, at least another one of the supernovas getting a D. Possibly Kidd.

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>>134098169

>>134098206

If he was shown recently you can be sure he won't be featured in a long time.

>>134098217
The injuries sustained by Radio Knife didn't hinder his fighting abilities. Law helped Luffy against Doffy just as much as Wiper did against Enel.

And fuck you for the name calling.

>>134098225
So far the only living D.'s are Blackbeard, the Monkey Family, and Law. Although there'll probably another one or two before endgame.

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Are you ready for his suffering to be animated in a few hours?

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>>134098244
"friend"

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>>134098281
>Radio knife
guess I indeed was right to indirectly call you a speed reader

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>>134098277
does that mean I'm not gonna see my nigga Urouge for a lot of time too? That makes me sad.

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>>134098204
>is this confirmed

instead of speed readers we need a new term for people who only visit the generals

Reminder that yesterday's leak confirmed Don Krieg works for Jack, it's on next chapter.

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>>134097955
See

>>134095884 and >>134095935

Though I admit it wasn't lasting damage on Doffy.

All in all I legitimately think Luffy could beat Doffy 1 on 1. Luffy just saw Doffy as someone who was in his way towards his dream, not a major obstacle.

>>134098289
There have to be plenty of them, but they all have to be key in defeating the WG.

U guys just did not notice that Oda made a mamute in the back of an elephant?

This is just brilliant

>>134097976
They don't all need one, even Teach had a Luchador and a Nazi with him.

>>134098204
I can't find the full raw but the guy who translated the initial script wrote Sheepshead's lines as the following and I trust them more than niggerstream

>"Do you know who you're talking to?!! You're in the presence of the Emperor Kaidou's retainer!!
>"One of his 3 closest members called 'The Disasters'!! 'Jack the Drought'!!"

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>>134098347

>>134098362
>mamute
Wat?

>>134098347
>All in all I legitimately think Luffy could beat Doffy 1 on 1.
Then you're a legitimate retard who can't understand fights in one piece and where people stand.

>luffy gear 4 can't beat a weakened doflamingo before time limit
>hurr but no luffy can beat him he just needs plot armor for 10 minutes

>>134098325
So bad memory is now being a speed reader?

About your pic, they were just shit flinging. This is battle shounen, injuries, if anything, just make you stronger.

>>134098281
Luffy literally LITERALLY states that Law's attack weakened Doffy
When Oda has a character say it so blatantly, people should really get the message

>>134098347
Gear 4 luffy cannot defeat a Doflamingo with his internal organs severed but somehow a 100% Luffy can defeat a 100% Doflamingo, one on one, no aid by ANYONE?

Makes sense I guess.

>>134097104
>>134097159
1. He didn't freeze Smoker at all so that has no bearing.
2. Because Doflamingo stopped it from doing so with his own ability.

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>>134098439
>About your pic, they were just shit flinging. This is battle shounen, injuries, if anything, just make you stronger.
oh please, this is getting silly now

>>134098169
I wouldn't mind CP9.
They're also possible relevant again.

>>134098427
>>luffy gear 4 can't beat a weakened doflamingo before time limit
>hurr but no luffy can beat him he just needs plot armor for 10 minutes

You mean the 20 minutes that was offscreened and simply just Luffy learning how Doffy uses his awakened powers? Luffy clearly adapted when he broke through with Leo Bazook or when he finished Doffy off.

>>134098327
>does that mean I'm not gonna see my nigga Urouge for a lot of time too? That makes me sad.

He will have a mini arc but I doubt he's important. I feel bad for you but you could have picked another character to be a fan of.

>>134098334

>what are inaccurate translations.

>>134098439
Ace must have been one hell of a beast when he got that hole through his chest. He just happened to get a heart attack during that precise instant. What a shame uh? I bet he would've risen up and annihilated the marines in one hit if that hadn't happened

>>134098386
This, I'm not sure if he's a right hand in the sense of being the top, he may be the 3rd mate.

>>134097976
Whitebeard pirates have a gay theme. Not even joking, just look at them and tell me they don't look like a bunch of fabulous fuckers

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i hate how much brook jokes make me laugh

>>134098137
>Kaido's right hand man beaten by some no-name furry?
Whe literally don't know jack-shit about how the fight against the Minks went. And Mink king was the one who was knocked into a coma that lasted for days while Jack went to fuck shit up again and sank 2 marine ships while 3 marine superpowers were present.

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>>134098347


>The unfortunate are to be found everywhere! There's simply no saving them all!


Why can't Luffy argue against that? Why does Oda insist on making him a dumbfuck that refuses to reflect on anything even if it's right in his face.

>>134098604
Nice meme, let me upboat you... oh wait, it was already tried. Bad Ledditor, Downboat to you!

>>134098102
I think Crocodiles epithet is "Sir" or something, as in "Sir Crocodile"

>>134098479
Just stop replying. I realize that retards come and go in these threads but this guy is as dumb as the guy who thinks pre-ts luffy can beat vergo.

>>134098511
You literal retard, Luffy LITERALLY could not defeat a WEAKENED doflamingo with gear 4 before the time limit

were it not for plot armor, after gear 4 failed to defeat doflamingo, doflamingo would have just slaughtered luffy during his 10 minute downtime

there's literally no reason to believe a healthy doflamingo would lose against luffy on a flat secluded island with no one to interefere


Want me to summarize this again for you because you're so retarded? Sure.
>luffy gear 4 couldn't defeat a weakened doflamingo in the 30-40 minute timespan he had to defeat him
>gear 4's time limit is up, doflamingo can kill a luffy who can't even move now, but plot armor so luffy is able to hide for 10 minutes

If doflamingo is healthy he can easily survive the 30-40 minute onslaught by luffy and then kill him during the 10 minutes after

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>>134098527
just remember of your words my brother. The time will come when THIS man will rise and become a star.

>>134097937
Mafia, motherfucker. Doflamingo was clearly meant to be a young Sicilian gangster

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>>134085172
>>134098604
>Whitebeard pirates have a gay theme.


Did Oda seriously do this on purpose? Is Oda a closet homosexual?

>>134098731
None of them have a fixed theme to the entire crew, even Doffy only get to himself, them there's a card theme to his executives and the rest of his crew is half random, half house servants. It's all random.

>>134098692
it's just people trying to force their headcanons on everyone with no actual proofs and instead of ammitting they have none decide to keep arguing with retarded shit.

Listen up. I personally believe Kizaru could defeat Aokiji. Don't ask me why, I just could. Do I have any shred of proof? No. Do I come here trying to enforce you to see things my way? Fucking hell no.

Couldn't you do the same? Is it necessary for these threads to get deeper and deeper in a sea of shit just because you don't know how to keep your fingers from writing retarded shit on here?

>>134098785
I just think he could*

>>134098692
>>134098511

A healthy Dofflamingo would actually defeat a gear 4 Luffy. He was way weaker and slower because of Law

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>>134098604
>>134098665

Redditor = Rekt

>>134098785
>I personally believe Kizaru could defeat Aokiji.
We haven't seen the two fight one another so you can't apply it as an example against what healthy luffy vs healthy doffy would have been like

>>134098690
Apparently Crocodile has Sabaku no ou

which is pretty good. I must have missed it.

>>134098837
not if he started with his finisher

but starting with a finisher is stupid. Doffy would go down either way

Holy shit, why can't people just accept that Doffy is far stronger than Luffy? Oda weakened Doffy because Luffy could never beat him otherwise. Doffy had his devil fruit for 3 decades and trained his abilities pretty much to perfection and also awakened his fruit. Luffy beating a unhandicapped Doffy would have just been fucking unbelievable and stupid.

>>134098837
we know it. Everyone with a brain knows it.

>>134098851
We have never seen Luffy fighting Doflamingo by itself, no rooms, no Law, so there's that you know. You can't possibly know how Doflamingo would hold up against Gear 4 without his internal organs severed, for example. In any case, the point of the post is that I have no proof to back up my claims, and the funny thing is, the ones who argue that luffy could defeat doflamingo on his own have evidence that goes AGAINST them. I don't even want to understand at this point.

>>134098984
yes but there are literal retards who think luffy could win against doflamingo 1v1

gotta put them in place

>>134094178

Making no statement about anything else, that description was based on personality stereotypes, not appearance.

>>134098981
There are some rabid idiots who're either Luffy fans or Doflamingo haters who have decided to begin this whole retarded debate for seemingly no reason even though everything in the manga proves them wrong. Don't ask. It is 4chan after all.

>>134099035
they'll just get worse. You may think you've won when they stop replying, but I can assure you those same idiots will appear in the next thread repeating the same exact shit.

>>134094398
>I only pretend to read mangas that are trending topics on muh arlong park forums

I can't stand this fedora-level.

>>134098778
Read the Godfather
Doffy: A fusion betwen Vito Corleone and Luca Brasi; he has Vito's gangland savviness and Luca's brutality and love of violence

Trebol: Donquixotes Clemenza, except he's not fat, only looks it. Day one partner in crime who got hm into the business

Vergo: Tom Hagen if he was a button man.

I could go on, but yeah, I think his crew has a strong Godfather or at least Italian Mafia theme

>>134098981
What do you define as "Luffy" though? G4 is a normal part of Luffy's power set. Doflamingo couldn't really do shit to G4 Luffy. If Luffy began by hitting Doffy with King Kong guns, then I don;t know if Doffy could have stood for too long.

>>134098692
>You literal retard, Luffy LITERALLY could not defeat a WEAKENED doflamingo with gear 4 before the time limit

You seem to be triggered anon.

>were it not for plot armor

Not this meme again.

>luffy gear 4 couldn't defeat a weakened doflamingo in the 30-40 minute timespan he had to defeat him
>gear 4's time limit is up, doflamingo can kill a luffy who can't even move now, but plot armor so luffy is able to hide for 10 minutes

The offscreen 20 minutes was literally there for Oda to create tension with the birdcage. Luffy could beat Doffy faster than that if he wasn't dodging so many awakened string attacks.

>He was way weaker and slower because of Law

Headcanon, he seemed to be relatively the same even after all the damage he took.

>>134094325
Sanji could, he'll also defeat Kizaru so it all fits.

>>134098662
It's because Doffy is right, there is no saving everyone. Luffy probably understands that, and agrees that it isn't possible, but that isn't going to stop him from saving the people who are right in front of him.

>>134099077
>mfw doffyfags so butthurt that their jobber character got so btfo that they shitpost all day
luffy could beat healthy doflamingo easily too, he wasn't even trying in the fight and was as weakened as doflamingo, the fight was even

>>134099113
A healthy Doffy should be able to tank a single KKG, judging by how he tanked the whole G4 onslaught and the Leo Bazooka in a severely weakened state

>>134099108
Especially when you consider the scene with them all eating dinner together like a mafia family.

>>134098875
"King of Sand"?

>>134099113
I assume the magnitude of the attack doesn't allow for Luffy to be able to use it randomly like it were simple punches. I assume it's straining and cannot be possibly spammed at will. In any case, what makes you think that a healthy Doffy wouldn't be able to simply avoid the attacks?

>>134099119
>Headcanon
>>134098325

>>134099161
He does understand it, hence why he told Vivi that people die no matter what.

>>134099179
This anon gets it, Luffy saw Doffy as an annoying block in his pathway and nothing more.

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So i haven't watched One Piece but i heard it is a good anime.. Should i start watching it now or am i fucked because it is too much to catch up now? How many episodes are there?

>>134099119
>The offscreen 20 minutes was literally there for Oda to create tension with the birdcage
And luffy couldn't beat him during this time despite being in gear 4 and despite doflamingo being weakened

>Luffy could beat Doffy faster than that if he wasn't dodging so many awakened string attacks.
are you a literal retard that thinks doflamingo using his df isn't allowed in a fight

>Headcanon, he seemed to be relatively the same even after all the damage he took.
it's literally canon that doflamingo was recognized by luffy to be very weakened

>>134099223
I've read the manga anon, but no where does it say Doffy is slower, only weakened. Sorry I should have clarified I meant in terms of speed.

>>134099244
It's a good manga.

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I wonder when this Luffy vs Doffy argument is going to end.

I also wonder what's coming next to take the place of this relatively newborn idiocy.

>>134099237
>This anon gets it, Luffy saw Doffy as an annoying block in his pathway and nothing more.
nah I'm actually just shitposting and mocking you/whoever it is that posts doffyfags btfo, you're an idiot if you think doffy can't beat luffy desu

>>134099179
>was as weakened as doflamingo
suuuuuuure, when were Luffys insides destroyed again?

>>134090441

To be fair, most "memes" in those threads are crappy samefags a single autist did fairly recently, including half that list you fags were posting.

At least the ironic shitpost is just floating around, like monkey shit in the water.

>>134099289
>replying to evident trolls

anon what the fuck are you doing

>>134099244
the manga is good, the anime starts out good but goes to shit fairly quickly

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>>134098745
>Is Oda a closet homosexual?
Did he make a canon faggot the secondary protag for 3 years?

Will we get a "Revival of D" in 2030?

>>134098958
that finisher needs your opponent immobilized or running directly at it.


Luffy would never hit an on guard doflamingo with that king kong gun.

>put all your c̶h̶a̶k̶r̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶ ̶n̶e̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶i̶a̶t̶s̶u̶ haki into one attack
>it's the string clone
>???
>profit

>>134099288
>>134099248
Doffyfags in full damage control

>>134099244
What ever floats your boat.

With current One Piece the manga is infinitely better. Don't be put off by the amount of content just take your time and enjoy the ride.

If you stick with the anime only just know the quality declines drastically at the 500 episode mark with still shots lasting up to 1-2 minutes, 5 minute long walking scenes and terrible animation.

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>>134099277
The first thing that happened after Doffy got up after getting his insides destroyed was Luffy landing consecutive hits on him without any suprise attacks

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I cannot wait to get more X Drake. Literally the best Supernova.

>>134099389
Headcanon. Doffy's speed was the same. It only seemed that Doffy was faster in their first encounter because Luffy got surprised by the string doppelganger.

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>mfw Luffyfags are now as bad as Doffyfags

good job guys

>>134099161
>>134099237

What is he impolite? He could at least agree if his opponent is making a point.

>>134099108
Each one has a fuckton of themes

Doffy: spanish, mafia, pimp, Michael Polnareff, Joker, Puppet-master, cards, Donquixote de La Mancha

Diamante: spanish matador, mafia, Steven Tyler, cards

Rocinante: mafia, "The Departed", Nolan Joker, cards

The flashback has a mafia theme more than his crew does.

>>134099379
Honestly, if Doffy had just stayed on the ground and gone "nah, I'll just wait for G4 to run out again, no sense in biting the bait" Luffy would have looked like such an asshole just bouncing in the air whilst Dressrosa got sliced

>>134099467
this fucking pic always gets me
what could have possibly happened

there's even .. a moon

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>>134099382
>>134099325
>>134099278

Thanks for the replies. I'm not really a mangareader so the anime it is then. I hope it is not to bad in comparison. You guys make it sound like it is...

>>134099426

He's the only one that didn't seem like a complete noob. Drake looked like an established player from the start.

>>134099379
This. What some people keep ignoring is Doffy mental state. During the whole fight against Law and Luffy he lost his compsure more and more and at the end was just full of rage. He stopped being calm and thinking things through and was pissed as fuck because someone he considers to be a lower being is giving him so much trouble. This is also why he wanted to take Luffys 1 hit KO technique head on. To prove he is superior.

>>134099511
the first 350ish eps are good after that the animation quality drops and the progression turns to shit
in the latest arc there's about half a manga chapter per episode

>>134099108
>Doflamingo
>Luca + Vito

Now you are pushing it hard anon, there's at least 34 characters you could compare him to before going for such a fusion.

>>134099511
there's a colored version of the manga as well, so that's a bit more like anime.

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I wonder where the Oro Jackson is now.

I miss Mother Sea.

>>134099449
What the fuck about this is headcanon? It is literally shown in the manga.

>>134099511
Just know you have been warned, the quality of the current anime is abysmal. One episode is the equivalent of half a chapter, sometimes less, which means they need to drag a small amount of content to become 24 minutes.

I think it's time someone from /a/ makes a video to compare the manga and anime with bias. Showing when the anime was good and what it's like now for the newfags.

>>134099524
well he was in the military for a good portion of his life before being a pirate.

Luffy literally set sail in a barrel and hoped for the best

>>134099329
samefagging "discussions" never work to enforce may mays, ask the sanjihate fag, he used to chain entire threads back at punk hazard but it never floated.

>>134099623
>buggy made it into the big top

>>134099524
Capone and Uroge are old enough to have criminal experience too.

Why do people find it hard to believe a guy with a shitton more experience than Luffy was stronger than Luffy? Doflamingo had been fighting and thriving in the New World for decades before Luffy came along, of course he was next level. He lost because Oda is trying to tell us that Luffy's greatest asset is his comrades, who he can rely on to protect others and even protect him when things really go south. Doffy was one man against an island full of seasoned fighters, and he almost beat every single one of them. Doffy is stronger than Luffy, but thats okay. Just let it be okay, anons.

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>>134099623

Davy Jones lockers

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>>134099584

I've seen what you mean. I was visiting a friend that was an OP fan and he was watching a skeleton fight some kinda ogre monster or some shit i don't know and when the roof caved in the animation got really lazy with the falling stones pattern repeating. Don't know which episode though. Anyway thanks again for the reply.

>>134099603
I see, maybe i'll check it out later. You folks are sure a nice bunch. Thanks mates.

>>134099775
jepp. thats what I said>>134098981