So, let's summarize what we still don't know:
>Where is Raizou?
>Where is Caesar?
>What happened to Sanji
>How did the fight Jack vs Minks actually go
>How was Nekomamushi and the night half of the Minks involved?
>Who was tortured by Jack?
>What happens on moon lit nights?
Did you miss taking your sedative pills today or why are you so angry?
>Why is it okay to fap to Madam Shirley's shark butt but not Carrot's bunny bumps?
So is Bepo, but he carries it well.
Are they fucking serious with that waistline?
We could also talk about which card game inspired members of Jacks crew we'd like to see.
Post yfw they decide to make a full collection of these figures
specifically Doffy and Kid
You newfags do know that the Tokyo Ghoul meme only became a meme after someone said it for real and it went on the Dressrosa arc one right? This thing isnt a display for forced memes. It's more for ridiculous things that come out in real conversation that we can make fun of.
Who is Raizo
Why is Raizo targeted
How did Kaido's men know to look for him on Zou
Why did Raizo harm the minks by hiding on their island letting them be tortured and killed and their country get destroyed
>Doffy is Admiral level
Seems true based on the events of Punk Hazard and Dressrosa. It's unreasonable to believe he couldn't put up a good fight against an admiral.
>Luffy can't stop him
>Sanji a shit
Most annoying one on your list but it did start out unironically posted.
>There's too much happening at once.
shitposting forced meme
>post more Dellinger
>I want to rub oil on BB's hairy ass
sides were orbital
Most falsely propogated
>implying hancock won't win the luffyball
She will just because she'll just make everyone believe it's true.
>Luffy already won the Lawbowl
>read more mature stuff like Tokyo Ghoul
You're right about that.
Your not making fun of the 'Doffyfags BTFO' shitposter though. You're just acknowledging him. It's a forced meme that the same person posts over and over again to rile people up and get attention. It's not something that some faggot says that's so stupid that other fags can make a meme or copypasta out of. Whoever made the Zou one is just slapping on a bunch of forced memes which isnt the original point of that picture.
Then again, it turned out true that base Luffy could not stop Doflamingo, Gear 4 had to be revealed and still wasn't enough until he had a flashback and pulled out King Kong Gun.
>Sabo? This is Hack.
Wow, Oda seriously went and wrote himself into the story just like that?
>tfw no strong furwaifu that kicks ass while I stay at home in the kitchen preparing dinner
>Oda should have shown Jack transforming to give him a more memorable, scarier reveal. He could have shown his transformation as striking alarm and terror in the hearts of the minks. His hair is dumb and his overall design is underwhelming, much like most of Oda's more recent characters. He just looks like a generic mammoth with goofy hair. He and kaidou's SMILE soldiers got dehyped massively this chapter. You can't dehype and give a poor reveal to your upcoming arc villains. Look at how well Enel was revealed: he came across as an invincible god. Kaidou's army and officers come across merely as incompetent zoan users. Not scary or threatening in the least.
How can you say him being a "generic mammoth" is underwhelming? All zoans in their full animal form look exactly like their standard animal. All Lucci was was a normal leopard; all Kaku was later was a standard giraffe. We still haven't seen Jack's hybrid form (most intimidating) nor his human reveal (which seems pretty cool to be honest). The only thing you're basing that on it his hair, which barely even matters because Franky had the same hairstyle for half of Dressrosa.
Legendary+: Roger, prime Whitebeard
Legendary: prime Garp
Legendary-: old Whitebeard
Admiral++: Blackbeard, Shanks, Kaidou, prime Sengoku, prime Raylegh
Admiral+: Akainu, old Garp
Admiral: Aokiji, Kizaru, Big Mom, old Sengoku
Admiral-: Fujitora, Mihawk, Marco, old Raylegh
Admiral--: G4 Luffy, Sabo, Weeble, Inuarashi, Jack (?)
How so? His real life place of origin would be Austria.
old rayleigh is too low
Kizaru is the one that got hurt in their clash. Rayleigh was on the defensive worrying about the strawhats. The strawhats got sent away. Rayleigh went back to drinking. Kizaru left with his tail between his legs. garp laughed at Kizaru trying to fight against Rayleigh
Kek. G4 Luffy was getting it's ass kicked for 20 min by a severely weakened Dofflamingo. Unless you mean he can magically spam King Kong gun without tiring, he's weaker.
Also Doffy is admiral level. Get over it faggots.
>Fujitora casually blocked his kick like it was nothing.
Fuji unsheathed his sword just to block a casual kick, Doflamingo's shoe wasn't even nicked from making contact with an Admiral's blade. Just like Sanj's Diable Jambe, Premiere Hachies, and the Spectre didn't singe a single feather in Doflamingo's coat.
I think Dofla came off better in that exchange, laughing at Fuji's threat and suggesting he'll kill him too. Fuji just shut his mouth and walked away.
And worst thing is that doffy hard counter luffy hard, rubber is weak against cuts, specially if the rubber is being stretched
Too bad doflamingo didnt have plot armor to beat luffy
>Also Doffy is admiral level. Get over it faggots.
Prove it. Neither admiral he encountered actually gave a shit about him, and Kuzan could have literally killed him then and there before he could even slice Smoker.
What was he meant to block it with? He's a blind man who wields it for a reason.
>I think Dofla came off better in that exchange, laughing at Fuji's threat and suggesting he'll kill him too. Fuji just shut his mouth and walked away.
So if Ussop says he can kill a Yonkou, is it true? I think you also missed the part where Fujitora said he wouldn't touch Doflamingo because it wasn't in his interests.
>rubber is weak against cuts
No it's not, it's just that Luffy is more immune to blunt attacks, so cutting is what works against him. It's not an explicit weakness because cutting works against anyone.
Hell Luffy can even use haki to break swords now like he did with his head against Doffy and Rebecca.
It's pretty obvious fighters at that level know each others well enough and are wise enough not to engage themselves in a pointless fight. The exception of a few hot headed ones like Akainu, Jack and the likes.
Fuji backed down because he didn't want to be credited in the slightest. Ao Kiji backed down for real tho, same as Doffy.
Haki cancels the whole thing in this case. Doffy is also a kick based fighter.
Because he wants to fight an admiral right now when there's 2 terrorists heading for his Island? What happened the last time two admiral level character fought each other?
Ao Kiji couldn't even Freeze him from his back, he shrugged off the whole attack.
That was Kyros.
>Ao Kiji couldn't even Freeze him from his back, he shrugged off the whole attack.
He literally only did that to stop Doffy from killing Smoker and to scare him off. Even Buffalo made comment that he didn't freeze him to the core. He literally placed a layer of ice over him to stop his movements, nothing more.
That's saving Kyros. Other instances have Luffy blocking Doffy's kicks.
Luffy could be cut by top tier slashes but his primary weakness is being pierced, as shown when Doflamingo successfully pierced him with his divine string, but never slashed him, even though he's known to slash people.
>strings that can cut buildings in half pointed directly at a rubber mans fist
>rubber fist overpowers awakened strings.
Each of those strings were like needles. If anything it should've rip luffy's hand apart.
He's got regenerative capacity and even Gear 4's arsenal couldn't harm Doflamingo in a serious way until King Kong Gun, which I think would harm an admiral if it hit them.
I can't imagine Kuzan just taking a King Kong Gun and saying that it just tickled him.
>If anything it should've rip luffy's hand apart.
yes, and Luffy should have died from bloodloss against Croc and from being stabbed right through with a giant hook. Remeber this is One Piece you are reading?
>He literally only did that to stop Doffy from killing Smoker and to scare him off.
Absolutely no reason to hold back. If he could have killed in one hit he would have. To avert the whole crisis he was shitting himself about.
>Even Buffalo made comment that he didn't freeze him to the core.
He just said that Dofflamingo wasn't frozen to the core. Not that Ao Kiji held back. It's not just Doffy's resilience just like Whitebeard tanking a similar attack and lava without apparent armament haki.
>Otherwise Enel would be Yonko or Pirate King tier.
Enel? You joking?
Nigga couldn't even kill a fucking civilian with his Thor attack or something. He can blow off a sky Island at best because they basically have no structure but his electricity would feel like tickle to any strong fighter of the New World.
Plus he needs a whole bunch of gadgets to make it work.
Dofflamingo's cage was actively fought by thousands of fighter and it was still about to crush them.
Sakazuki took a shit ton of quake punches and came out fine in the end. Those punches are probably 5x stronger than G4 ones. Don't underestimate admirals.
>Absolutely no reason to hold back. If he could have killed in one hit he would have. To avert the whole crisis he was shitting himself about.
He had no reason to kill him and interfere with the world, especially when Doffy is part of the WG and it may make him a wanted man.
>It's not just Doffy's resilience just like Whitebeard tanking a similar attack
Not really. WB was locked in a dense block of ice and only broke out with his quake. Doffy was covered in a minute layer probably no thincker than 1cm.
Judging from the conversation it seems that Rebecca's sword in pic related is sharp, so it's likely a new one.
Compared to the surface covering Kuzan did to Doffy.
Still Enel is Grand Line has been. His attacks took preparation and they still could be tanked for a little while by the pre timeskip strawhats.
Any attack from Dofflamingo would disintegrate a pre timskip strawhat on the spot.
That's what was gonna happen when Kizaru showed up anyway. A taste of an actual New World power house.
It was the very same sword she fought in the colosseum with; her blunt one. Being hit in the head by the thin edge of even a blunt blade would crack someone like Voila's skull in half.
>Still Enel is Grand Line has been. His attacks took preparation and they still could be tanked for a little while by the pre timeskip strawhats.
The only attack of Enel that took more than a second was Raigou, which is an attack powerful enough to blow islands out of existence (ie the SHs wouldn't stand a chance, not even Luffy)
You missed my point. The point is that character can survive being covered by Ao Kiji's ice even if he actively tried to kill them.
There is no reason to think he held back.
>He had no reason to kill him and interfere with the world,
He encouraged smoker to warn Akainu asap. If he could so casually get rid of this threat with just a single backstab, he would have.
But somehow you believe the ruler of the New World's trade, Schibukai, and someone who had vice admirals as underlings can be killed like a moskito by any NW powerhouse.
>which is an attack powerful enough to blow islands out of existence
*sky Islands. No reason to believe strong fighters would be harmed by the attack beyond falling into the clouds.
>The only attack of Enel that took more than a second was Raigou
Many of his attacks require him meddling with that device he has attached to himself. Electricity doesn't appear to be as profuse as fire, ice or lava. Like light or gas it requires some sort of convergence to make a hiken sort of attack.
I could be wrong because my most recent memories are the anime in this case and the manga is too far back. But don't make me quote the pages if I'm right and you deny it cus I will be merciless.
Whitebeard's internal organs were destroyed and he died not long after that. But I agree both Doflamingo and Whitebeard were able to keep fighting even after their organs were destroyed. I'm not sure how this comparison makes Doflamingo look weak.
You mean when Doffy repaired his organs.
If they aren't repaired he would be dead on the marine ship.
Law and Cavendish stated he was already using too much haki at once.
I don't think quake punches are that much stronger than King Kong Gun.
You're delusional if you think Kuzan held back in saving his friend's life. He tried to freeze Doflamingo's heart but he couldn't.
>There is no reason to think he held back.
What about the fact that he didn't freeze Doflamingo in a way to kill? If you recall Long Ring Long Land, we saw that he has the ability to easily freeze people right though their entire body, which is impossible to break out of and requires being thawed. If he freezes people to the core it can kill them instantly, which was why Buffalo was so relieved to find out that he wasn't. It was nothing but a thin coating of ice to stop him in his tracks, and wasn't even the same as the one he barraged Whitebeard in.
It was just simply not his place or in his interests to kill Doflamingo, similar to how Fujitora didn't want to the one to defeat him.
>But somehow you believe the ruler of the New World's trade, Schibukai, and someone who had vice admirals as underlings can be killed like a moskito by any NW powerhouse.
I don't think that. In the case of Kuzan's speed being able to freeze opponents in a milisecond, it it quite advtantageous against many opponents to take them quickly. In an actual fight I don't deny Doflamingo could do alright, however I don't believe he'd win because he's not on par, but instead a bit below (as is Luffy).
Can someone explain gear 3 to me? How does adding a few hundred oz of air change anything? At best it's a few lbs of air added to his attack but spread out over a wide surface and therefore less effective.
>If they aren't repaired he would be dead on the marine ship.
He should have been dead after being knocked out since the strings should have disappeared that held his organs together. But I guess it is just a One Piece thing since nobody dies when it isn't something world shaking.
oh boy. I think I could almost believe you on that.
>What about the fact that he didn't freeze Doflamingo in a way to kill?
No offense but it's your headcanon in this case. We really can't tell but there's no reason for Ao Kiji to go soft on a monster like Doffy.
Doffy is resilient and therefore his body prevented it from freezing. The same reason Jinbei would stop Akainu's magma fist with his palm for a single strike. Basic biology and physics don't apply. It's One Piece nonsensical things like this happens all the time.
> similar to how Fujitora didn't want to the one to defeat him.
Ao Kiji is not trying to take down the Schibukai system. It's obvious he has better things to do now than trying to stop Dofflamingo but no reason to spare him if it's that easy to kill him.
Over it's thousand year life, Zou has traveled the whole world. During it's travels, it's eaten every type of fish in existence, but it's stomach doesn't work normally, so they aren't digested right away.
Zou's stomach is All-Blue, and Sanji went inside it to find it.
will this shit ever end? Or are we stuck with it until the end of times?
>Normal Luffy yeah but G4 was too much
do you even read? Doffy ass devastated normal luffy. Gear 4 luffy wasn't even able to defeat an extremely weakened doflamingo before the time limit was up..
So Kaido and his crew are based on Card Games.
In Japan, "Card" is pronounced as "Kādo". He could also be argued as the "King" card.
The Jack card and the game Black Jack.
>Diez (X) Drake
The 10 card, the one following after the Jack card.
Card game called Sheepshead
Card game called Scotch Whist
Card game called Gin Rummy
Also, Doflamingo was an ally of Kaido, and he's the joker card.
It's a lost cause, you're going to have a whole bunch of people screaming to you that king kong gun would oneshot 100% Doflamingo in no time.
I thought we had left this whole debate behind. What happened?
Yes I read .Did you? It said G4 Luffy was getting his ass kicked. How does Luffy not beating the shit out of Mingo equate to getting his ass kicked when Doffy couldn't land a good blow until the limit was reached?
>The 10 card, the one following after the Jack card.
Would drake be one of the 3 disasters or just below?
Being one would make him stronger than Luffy atm, probably, given what we've seen of Jack and Dofflamingo would certainly have reasons to be afraid of Kaido's forces.
I think it's just that one "epic doffyfag btfo xD" guy shitting up the thread by bringing it up every time.
Anyone who's read dressrosa knows full well that a health luffy cannot defeat a healthy doflamingo.
I wasn't the guy you originally responded to, doflamingo couldn't hurt gear 4 luffy but luffy at the same time can't defeat doflamingo before the time limit is up. Doffy > luffy.
because when the time limit ended Luffy would have been dead in a 1vs1. His G4 is his ultimatum. If he doesn't manage to win the fight and has no one to support him, he's in big troubles.
Had he not had a whole fucking island covering his back from enraged Mingo while he was recharging from G4, he would've been slaughtered on the spot. That's not equal to 'getting your ass kicked', it's merely a 'he was about to get fucking murdered'
Were the Whitebeard pirates the only crew without a distinct theme?
>I wasn't the guy you originally responded to
well then try not to hop in others arguments if you're incapable of reading them. I don't give a fuck if Doffy > Luffy because G4 > Doffy.
>Anyone who's read dressrosa knows full well that a health luffy cannot defeat a healthy doflamingo.
But this is wrong. Before Gear Four their fight was pretty even. Luffy could hit him with speed but the punches lacked power, but when he tried to use Gear Third (grizzly magnum) Luffy's attacks became too slow and he was vulnerable.
After Gear 4th Luffy had Doffy on the ropes except for when he was surprised with devil fruit awakening.
Isn't Law stronger than Luffy?
reminder that oda endorses rule 63
not in his normal animal form
What? Before their fight doflamingo despite being weakened by law was dominating luffy, luffy wasn't able to deal any sort of significant damage to him, and when he tried using gear 3 he was simply too slow. Doflamingo was kicking him around in the meanwhile.
Gear 4 totally ruined doffy, I think even if doflamingo was healthy that luffy in gear 4 could beat him around, but the fact is that luffy after giving it his all in gear 4 couldn't beat a WEAKENED doflamingo let alone a healthy one before the time limit was up. After the time limit doflamingo can simply kill luffy provided there's no plot armor.
Doflamingo > Luffy in a fair fight.
The Marines have a theme (obviously)
Kaido has a theme
Big Mom has the whole wonderland theme
Blackbeard has the classiest old school Buccaneer theme.
Shanks seems to be like a gigantic strawhat/Roger crew.
Whitebeard pirates didn't appear to have any.
>hype Jack for weeks
>turns out he got wrecked trying to save Mingo
>turns out he was getting tooled by a bunch of furries until he detonated a gas bomb
that's the part people seem to forget. Luffy didn't even manage to defeat a severely weakened doflamingo with Gear 4 and would have been murdered in a fair fight, yet they seem to think they're somehow on par. The reason is still beyond me.
Luffy does not necessarily need to be as strong as every single enemy he encounters and you people really should stop enforcing that point of view. Reread the fight with Mingo and then tell me honestly if you think the two were on par with each other. He heavily relies on friends, alliances, trust, and all that. That's his greatest power. I thought it was clear?
>people want another island where the entirety of the natives are weak shit
Are people that surprised the strongest Mink could beat Jack?
Yeah, I personally believe he's one of the calamities. I don't know if he'd be above Luffy, he's probably just behind Jack since he's the right hand man of Kaido. But yeah I said ages ago that I expect Jack and Drake to be two division commanders of Kaido, and I even said it'd be cool if they were all ancient zoans.
Yeah, I'd say that the 3 calamities are like a monster trio, but are not 100% equal, similar to Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Especially with Jack as the right hand man to Kaido, I'd say Drake is the second calamity followed by whoever is the third. All with slight differences in strength though.
Maybe either animals or their powers, (such as wind, ice, fire, etc)
Yep, luffy won because of plot which includes law setting the stage as well as having the whole island behind him.
Though the argument that luffy can't beat doflamingo on his own is hypothetical, it's a fact that some people here can't seem to accept, there are literal retards here who can't read and understand a manga for 12 year olds
So what? Even then, all his planning amounted to nothing and Luffy was the one who had to do everything. Law even admitted that to his crew, and had a face of admiration when he saw Luffy's final attack.
Being homosexual fujobait was their theme
Who's going to get genderbent next?
There are people in this thread, right now, that don't think Dofflamingo is Admiral level.
>wow those Tenryuubito are so unfashionable
I want to be fem!killers friend.
He's literally their strongest fighter, and only no name because Zou is secluded
It's like calling Enel no-name because next to no one goes Sky Islands
Also, yes, hilarious joke
where's my kizaru at? stop sitting and wasting time and get into action you stupid laser man.
you should just ignore them really. It's been going on for months and it ain't gonna stop anytime soon.
>Even then, all his planning amounted to nothing
I still can't believe that Law was made a D. It makes sense to tie him as Doffy's enemy, but in the end it amounted to nothing. I hope that Oda doesn't start handing out Ds like crazy, I'd rather he gave around Haoushoku than Ds.
The injuries sustained by Radio Knife didn't hinder his fighting abilities. Law helped Luffy against Doffy just as much as Wiper did against Enel.
And fuck you for the name calling.
Are you ready for his suffering to be animated in a few hours?
guess I indeed was right to indirectly call you a speed reader
does that mean I'm not gonna see my nigga Urouge for a lot of time too? That makes me sad.
>is this confirmed
instead of speed readers we need a new term for people who only visit the generals
>>134095884 and >>134095935
Though I admit it wasn't lasting damage on Doffy.
All in all I legitimately think Luffy could beat Doffy 1 on 1. Luffy just saw Doffy as someone who was in his way towards his dream, not a major obstacle.
I can't find the full raw but the guy who translated the initial script wrote Sheepshead's lines as the following and I trust them more than niggerstream
>"Do you know who you're talking to?!! You're in the presence of the Emperor Kaidou's retainer!!
>"One of his 3 closest members called 'The Disasters'!! 'Jack the Drought'!!"
>All in all I legitimately think Luffy could beat Doffy 1 on 1.
Then you're a legitimate retard who can't understand fights in one piece and where people stand.
>luffy gear 4 can't beat a weakened doflamingo before time limit
>hurr but no luffy can beat him he just needs plot armor for 10 minutes
Gear 4 luffy cannot defeat a Doflamingo with his internal organs severed but somehow a 100% Luffy can defeat a 100% Doflamingo, one on one, no aid by ANYONE?
Makes sense I guess.
>About your pic, they were just shit flinging. This is battle shounen, injuries, if anything, just make you stronger.
oh please, this is getting silly now
>>luffy gear 4 can't beat a weakened doflamingo before time limit
>hurr but no luffy can beat him he just needs plot armor for 10 minutes
You mean the 20 minutes that was offscreened and simply just Luffy learning how Doffy uses his awakened powers? Luffy clearly adapted when he broke through with Leo Bazook or when he finished Doffy off.
>does that mean I'm not gonna see my nigga Urouge for a lot of time too? That makes me sad.
He will have a mini arc but I doubt he's important. I feel bad for you but you could have picked another character to be a fan of.
>what are inaccurate translations.
Ace must have been one hell of a beast when he got that hole through his chest. He just happened to get a heart attack during that precise instant. What a shame uh? I bet he would've risen up and annihilated the marines in one hit if that hadn't happened
i hate how much brook jokes make me laugh
>Kaido's right hand man beaten by some no-name furry?
Whe literally don't know jack-shit about how the fight against the Minks went. And Mink king was the one who was knocked into a coma that lasted for days while Jack went to fuck shit up again and sank 2 marine ships while 3 marine superpowers were present.
>The unfortunate are to be found everywhere! There's simply no saving them all!
Why can't Luffy argue against that? Why does Oda insist on making him a dumbfuck that refuses to reflect on anything even if it's right in his face.
Just stop replying. I realize that retards come and go in these threads but this guy is as dumb as the guy who thinks pre-ts luffy can beat vergo.
You literal retard, Luffy LITERALLY could not defeat a WEAKENED doflamingo with gear 4 before the time limit
were it not for plot armor, after gear 4 failed to defeat doflamingo, doflamingo would have just slaughtered luffy during his 10 minute downtime
there's literally no reason to believe a healthy doflamingo would lose against luffy on a flat secluded island with no one to interefere
Want me to summarize this again for you because you're so retarded? Sure.
>luffy gear 4 couldn't defeat a weakened doflamingo in the 30-40 minute timespan he had to defeat him
>gear 4's time limit is up, doflamingo can kill a luffy who can't even move now, but plot armor so luffy is able to hide for 10 minutes
If doflamingo is healthy he can easily survive the 30-40 minute onslaught by luffy and then kill him during the 10 minutes after
just remember of your words my brother. The time will come when THIS man will rise and become a star.
>Whitebeard pirates have a gay theme.
Did Oda seriously do this on purpose? Is Oda a closet homosexual?
None of them have a fixed theme to the entire crew, even Doffy only get to himself, them there's a card theme to his executives and the rest of his crew is half random, half house servants. It's all random.
it's just people trying to force their headcanons on everyone with no actual proofs and instead of ammitting they have none decide to keep arguing with retarded shit.
Listen up. I personally believe Kizaru could defeat Aokiji. Don't ask me why, I just could. Do I have any shred of proof? No. Do I come here trying to enforce you to see things my way? Fucking hell no.
Couldn't you do the same? Is it necessary for these threads to get deeper and deeper in a sea of shit just because you don't know how to keep your fingers from writing retarded shit on here?
>I personally believe Kizaru could defeat Aokiji.
We haven't seen the two fight one another so you can't apply it as an example against what healthy luffy vs healthy doffy would have been like
Holy shit, why can't people just accept that Doffy is far stronger than Luffy? Oda weakened Doffy because Luffy could never beat him otherwise. Doffy had his devil fruit for 3 decades and trained his abilities pretty much to perfection and also awakened his fruit. Luffy beating a unhandicapped Doffy would have just been fucking unbelievable and stupid.
we know it. Everyone with a brain knows it.
We have never seen Luffy fighting Doflamingo by itself, no rooms, no Law, so there's that you know. You can't possibly know how Doflamingo would hold up against Gear 4 without his internal organs severed, for example. In any case, the point of the post is that I have no proof to back up my claims, and the funny thing is, the ones who argue that luffy could defeat doflamingo on his own have evidence that goes AGAINST them. I don't even want to understand at this point.
There are some rabid idiots who're either Luffy fans or Doflamingo haters who have decided to begin this whole retarded debate for seemingly no reason even though everything in the manga proves them wrong. Don't ask. It is 4chan after all.
they'll just get worse. You may think you've won when they stop replying, but I can assure you those same idiots will appear in the next thread repeating the same exact shit.
Read the Godfather
Doffy: A fusion betwen Vito Corleone and Luca Brasi; he has Vito's gangland savviness and Luca's brutality and love of violence
Trebol: Donquixotes Clemenza, except he's not fat, only looks it. Day one partner in crime who got hm into the business
Vergo: Tom Hagen if he was a button man.
I could go on, but yeah, I think his crew has a strong Godfather or at least Italian Mafia theme
What do you define as "Luffy" though? G4 is a normal part of Luffy's power set. Doflamingo couldn't really do shit to G4 Luffy. If Luffy began by hitting Doffy with King Kong guns, then I don;t know if Doffy could have stood for too long.
>You literal retard, Luffy LITERALLY could not defeat a WEAKENED doflamingo with gear 4 before the time limit
You seem to be triggered anon.
>were it not for plot armor
Not this meme again.
>luffy gear 4 couldn't defeat a weakened doflamingo in the 30-40 minute timespan he had to defeat him
>gear 4's time limit is up, doflamingo can kill a luffy who can't even move now, but plot armor so luffy is able to hide for 10 minutes
The offscreen 20 minutes was literally there for Oda to create tension with the birdcage. Luffy could beat Doffy faster than that if he wasn't dodging so many awakened string attacks.
>He was way weaker and slower because of Law
Headcanon, he seemed to be relatively the same even after all the damage he took.
It's because Doffy is right, there is no saving everyone. Luffy probably understands that, and agrees that it isn't possible, but that isn't going to stop him from saving the people who are right in front of him.
>mfw doffyfags so butthurt that their jobber character got so btfo that they shitpost all day
luffy could beat healthy doflamingo easily too, he wasn't even trying in the fight and was as weakened as doflamingo, the fight was even
I assume the magnitude of the attack doesn't allow for Luffy to be able to use it randomly like it were simple punches. I assume it's straining and cannot be possibly spammed at will. In any case, what makes you think that a healthy Doffy wouldn't be able to simply avoid the attacks?
He does understand it, hence why he told Vivi that people die no matter what.
This anon gets it, Luffy saw Doffy as an annoying block in his pathway and nothing more.
So i haven't watched One Piece but i heard it is a good anime.. Should i start watching it now or am i fucked because it is too much to catch up now? How many episodes are there?
>The offscreen 20 minutes was literally there for Oda to create tension with the birdcage
And luffy couldn't beat him during this time despite being in gear 4 and despite doflamingo being weakened
>Luffy could beat Doffy faster than that if he wasn't dodging so many awakened string attacks.
are you a literal retard that thinks doflamingo using his df isn't allowed in a fight
>Headcanon, he seemed to be relatively the same even after all the damage he took.
it's literally canon that doflamingo was recognized by luffy to be very weakened
I wonder when this Luffy vs Doffy argument is going to end.
I also wonder what's coming next to take the place of this relatively newborn idiocy.
>This anon gets it, Luffy saw Doffy as an annoying block in his pathway and nothing more.
nah I'm actually just shitposting and mocking you/whoever it is that posts doffyfags btfo, you're an idiot if you think doffy can't beat luffy desu
To be fair, most "memes" in those threads are crappy samefags a single autist did fairly recently, including half that list you fags were posting.
At least the ironic shitpost is just floating around, like monkey shit in the water.
>Is Oda a closet homosexual?
Did he make a canon faggot the secondary protag for 3 years?
that finisher needs your opponent immobilized or running directly at it.
Luffy would never hit an on guard doflamingo with that king kong gun.
>put all your c̶h̶a̶k̶r̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶ ̶n̶e̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶i̶a̶t̶s̶u̶ haki into one attack
>it's the string clone
Doffyfags in full damage control
What ever floats your boat.
With current One Piece the manga is infinitely better. Don't be put off by the amount of content just take your time and enjoy the ride.
If you stick with the anime only just know the quality declines drastically at the 500 episode mark with still shots lasting up to 1-2 minutes, 5 minute long walking scenes and terrible animation.
The first thing that happened after Doffy got up after getting his insides destroyed was Luffy landing consecutive hits on him without any suprise attacks
I cannot wait to get more X Drake. Literally the best Supernova.
>mfw Luffyfags are now as bad as Doffyfags
good job guys
Each one has a fuckton of themes
Doffy: spanish, mafia, pimp, Michael Polnareff, Joker, Puppet-master, cards, Donquixote de La Mancha
Diamante: spanish matador, mafia, Steven Tyler, cards
Rocinante: mafia, "The Departed", Nolan Joker, cards
The flashback has a mafia theme more than his crew does.
Honestly, if Doffy had just stayed on the ground and gone "nah, I'll just wait for G4 to run out again, no sense in biting the bait" Luffy would have looked like such an asshole just bouncing in the air whilst Dressrosa got sliced
Thanks for the replies. I'm not really a mangareader so the anime it is then. I hope it is not to bad in comparison. You guys make it sound like it is...
This. What some people keep ignoring is Doffy mental state. During the whole fight against Law and Luffy he lost his compsure more and more and at the end was just full of rage. He stopped being calm and thinking things through and was pissed as fuck because someone he considers to be a lower being is giving him so much trouble. This is also why he wanted to take Luffys 1 hit KO technique head on. To prove he is superior.
I wonder where the Oro Jackson is now.
Just know you have been warned, the quality of the current anime is abysmal. One episode is the equivalent of half a chapter, sometimes less, which means they need to drag a small amount of content to become 24 minutes.
I think it's time someone from /a/ makes a video to compare the manga and anime with bias. Showing when the anime was good and what it's like now for the newfags.
well he was in the military for a good portion of his life before being a pirate.
Luffy literally set sail in a barrel and hoped for the best
Why do people find it hard to believe a guy with a shitton more experience than Luffy was stronger than Luffy? Doflamingo had been fighting and thriving in the New World for decades before Luffy came along, of course he was next level. He lost because Oda is trying to tell us that Luffy's greatest asset is his comrades, who he can rely on to protect others and even protect him when things really go south. Doffy was one man against an island full of seasoned fighters, and he almost beat every single one of them. Doffy is stronger than Luffy, but thats okay. Just let it be okay, anons.
I've seen what you mean. I was visiting a friend that was an OP fan and he was watching a skeleton fight some kinda ogre monster or some shit i don't know and when the roof caved in the animation got really lazy with the falling stones pattern repeating. Don't know which episode though. Anyway thanks again for the reply.
I see, maybe i'll check it out later. You folks are sure a nice bunch. Thanks mates.
Actually no one ever said "Read more mature stuff like Tokyo Ghoul" before I put it in there.
People did say "Read more mature stuff" though, it was like the second most popular bait line after "One Piece is shit', but I thought it wasn't funny enough so I added "like Tokyo Ghoul".
But it sounded believable enough so people kind of ran with it.
I guess its because he took advantage of the Marines archives and training and really studied the New World before going AWOL and defecting. The rest rushed in like assholes and got spanked for it.
I remember some people were expecting Dofflamingo to actually be one of the end boss with his crew having a mirror fight against the strawhats. Before the timeskip.
He really was the most mysterious character.
Actually if you look at it, Law, Kidd and Drake are the only ones shown not managing the situation after marineford.
Law by being smart and not going right on, Kidd already murders a crew and makes fun of them and drake destroys a Yonkou Island.
Truly Drake, Kidd and Law were meant to be the only relevant supernova from the start.
I'm glad Oda didn't keep us waiting in the dark too long about Doffy. He was the best kind of test for the post-timeskip Strawhats, and really set the bar for what we can expect from high-level pirates from this point onwards. Honestly, I'm scared on Luffys behalf. I'm finally beginning to understand why Ussop is always pissing his pats, he has every right to.
The people the Strawhats are going against are some of the most violent, monstrous people out there. They will tear them to shreds f they fuck around, especially Blackbeard, whose cruelty I can only imagine has grown in the last two years. Luffy really will need all the help he can get if he wants to best these fuckers
old man, martial artist, butler, sentai villain
circus freak, choffer
Donquixote de la Mancha, cassino deals
Doffy has 7 different themes mixed with randomness
>Why do people find it hard to believe a guy with a shitton more experience than Luffy was stronger than Luffy?
Because Luffy is the protagonist, son of Dragon, grandson of Garp, trained by the son and firstmate of Roger. It doesnt matter how Oda starts the fight, it was always going to be revealed that Luffy was stronger
by kicking his ass. Doffy got bitched on by Kuzan and Issho for a reason
Okay, here's a really weird asspull.
>the nature of Devil Fruits is the ability of the fruit's 'demon' to fuse with, temporarily, with the soul of its consumer
>guns and swords and ships all have souls, so fruits work on them too
>it is this nature of soul-based fusion that inspires Dr. Vegapunk and others like him to experiment with the nature of fusion, not simply of material and sinew like Caesar, but of the heart and soul, the essence of things
>artificial devil fruits are merely the practical benefit, what Vegapunk has created is a way to transfer the soul of a creature into a transmittable energy
>for now, this has the purpose of merely allowing Kuma to hop bodies, but later...
>big battle, the Thousand Sunny is sunk, and like all sunken ships, it becomes part of the fleet of the afterlife
>maybe even Luffy's hat is destroyed, as part of the chaos (I have a bigger idea but I don't want to bore you)
>Merry Go was burned, a funeral like this frees the ship soul to the air instead of Davy Jones, but unlike Merry, Sunny is now a part of his collection
>the Strawhats discover a way to enter Davy Jones Locker but still alive
>they go at first out of Luffy's deathwish adventure drive after losing so much, but later find Davy Jones has not only his hat, but Oro Jackson the Thousand Sunny as well
>the Marines impounded and destroyed the Oro Jackson by dropping it in a whirlpool after hacking off the important bits
>Luffy engages in a long game of Davy Back fight to get both his boat and his hat back
>somehow the soul of the Oro Jackson and Thousand Sunny merge, and when they break out we get a proper second upgrade
>not breaking the rules of Franky's wish, while also accommodating a larger crew
I don't really have any belief in this, I just started typing from 'Luffy fights Davy Jones to get his ship back'
Don't worry, I don't like heroshit.
But if I can give you some advice, be more tolerant to these hambeasts. After all they're basically you with a vagina. So be kind to yourself.
If he wasn't stopped, then Kaido would have shown up in Marineford
Kaido and Shanks are around the same level. Roger was on a level high enough to be pirate king and you think Kaido is as well?
fanboy mods are actually a terrible thing, specially for mainstream shows, even good ones like One Piece.
It will be even worse if it's the horse-fuckes/fanfic writer one who don't watch most anime that people used to talk about here.
What if Shanks told him a place to go kill himself? Think outside the box anon. For all we know Kaido was a friend of WB and wanted to help him, but Shanks might have wanted WB to die.
While roger is a beast he didn't have the same amount of pirates to compete against. He started the Pirate age after all.
He would have most likely became pirate king even if he started from the same point luffy did but his road was ultimately easier.
>projecting your fatness on anons that trigger you
I don't care if newfags like you try to come to /a/ because this place will eat you alive the moment you step out of the safe zone of a general.
>Very rarely, a shitposting thread will be "allowed to stay up", and begin to affect threads outside the OP's own!
>All the Threads are turning to shit! Its like he's not an ordinary poster any more!!!
>admitting to be a hambeast/newfag
You fucked up, nigga
>I said newfag first, that means I've been here longer
>be more tolerant to these hambeasts
>I speak, react and got enraged like a newfag and admitted to be a new, but if I later say no, that means I can still save face.
Anyone hoping Kaidou's fight will be Strawhats Vs. Kaidou and maybe one other guy? I just reread Thriller Bark and want to believe they'll be another Whole Crew Vs. Overwhelmingly Strong opponent battle down the line.
hambeast got #rekt
>I behave like a human being who can't sleep at night and has time to waste
>that somehow means I'm enraged, not bored to death
Also you'll never be half as cool as Onizuka, you can stop deluding yourself now.
>I'm fat so it means everybody who mocks me is fat like me guise
I don't think this will work out here, maybe you should experiment this shit on some forum and see if it floats before you get baned there.
>be more tolerant to these hambeasts
I thought people were shitposting, but nope
fuck off to >>>/co/mblr
>watch hambeast anime
>hambeast got rekt
Samefag, did you just "rekt" yourself ?
But I'm not american. On the other hand there are like 90% chances you guys are.
So statistically I'm not taking too much risks calling you fatasses.
whiteknight hambeast, and admit to be a fat virgin
>I speak, react and got enraged like a newfag, whiteknight hambeasts, and admit to be a fat virgin but if I keep going, I can still save face.
lel I saw that comic an anon made in wait for chapter 808 on reddit
I wonder how many of you fucks secretly post there, I browse it when I get bored of /a/ but it's unbelievable some people from here post there.
I think it's just some underaged newfag who dropped here by accident and decided to whiteknight hambeasts, the one who posted >>134102712
There's no fujoshis outside of the snk threads and /cm/, and they don't care about underaged redditors like >>134102712 whitenkighting hambeasts, unless you don't know what a fujoshi is.
This is the one post in these threads that never gets old.
>Had he not had a whole fucking island covering his back from enraged Mingo while he was recharging from G4, he would've been slaughtered on the spot. That's not equal to 'getting your ass kicked', it's merely a 'he was about to get fucking murdered'
this, they were almost equals, but the edge was with Polnareff.
There's too many redditors on here
I've been to reddit a few times, not only is the layout vomit inducing but the community is trash. They all talk shit about this site but yet they worship the content from here and slurp up every bit of semen. They act like autistic manchildren as well, even more than 4chan.
that was an obvious bait to the point it would make fucking Quentin be ashamed, like that Rebecca one, I just pretend everybody just believed him ironically, since that's how it would go on in every other thread or board I ever went to.
Real fujoshis rarely leave their actual boards, even snk is a mixed bag, more blind shitpost than thread.
The Doflawcinante triangle and Lawlu frenesy kind of died. So we kind of left.
I still read One Piece, but I feel less and less like going to this thread. Not like it wasn't full of retards before, but it's just not as fun. I suppose the other resident fujos feel the same. You guys can't have fun, troll, bicker or shitpost correctly, moreover some of you are in the process of ruining some of my maymays. And it's painful to watch.
>newfag actually fucks off back to tumblr when told to
Fucking miracle, I wish every underaged newfag was like you, kid, and just fucked off to your shithole when realized you fucked up.
>You guys can't have fun, troll, bicker or shitpost correctly, moreover some of you are in the process of ruining some of my maymays. And it's painful to watch.
Fuck off cancer go back to your shithole
the shit it was. I saw admitted baiters whose trips sounded way more convincing, and it still managed shit because their threads weren't filled with newfags who'd fall for their b8
Hell, I mentioned Quentin, his last year's trip was more convincing that faggot and still didn't worked.
>waaaah I already left, now leae with me so I won't feel asshurt
>hey guyz check out le doge meme one piece comic I made!
>WOW DUDE THIS IS SO GOOD
>(insert joke from greentext screencap found on /r4chan)
>le supreme gentleman fedoratipper esquire: You sir are a scholar and a gentleman, I tip my hat and raise my glass to you.
Reddit in a nutshell