Thoughts on kuvshinov ilya?

>>>/ic/

You could have at least started with an anime related image.

>>133963100
>kuvshinov ilya
wow, looks great. Has this faggot done anything besides stand on the backs of established creators. If not: what a fucking waste, should have his fingers broken.

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I like it

>>133963100
TRACE ON!

>>133963100

When you draw the exact same face every single day, every year, you're bound to get pretty decent at it eventually. I just wish you'd stop shilling your work everywhere all the time.

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An unrelated question but I'm going to use this thread, but Illya is a male name? Or somehow changes when it's Ilya? Why does she has a male name then? It has some special meaning or what?

>>133963100
this 'chromatic aberration' shit looks like absolute garbage.

>>133963600

Ilya is a common Russian male name.

>>133963600
there is actually an illya thread on the first page

>>133963600
It's a Russian male name, however it's pronounced like Illja/Il'ya. They are just very similar in written form.

>>133963100
He suffers from major same face. Great skill technically, but his work is boring as fuck.

That and he's a smug asshole.

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>>133963100
>Thoughts on kuvshinov ilya?

He earns a lot (not Sakimichan LOT, but still a lot) and his art is popular. And I thought fan artists like him are supposed to be poor, hell I was wrong.

Personally I like some of his images. But I'm getting tired of his style. He uses chromatic aberration everywhere.

I've seen some SHOCKING TRUTH about him tracing figs or images of some other artists but honestly only fools would care about originality of art. Especially that kind of art with video games, movies, anime. Everyone does that, everyone is using samples in music or tracing originals in art or rehashing lyrics, etc.

>>133963761
what a piss poor excuse to defend his work.

He has talent, but his work is boring.

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>>133963741
>He suffers from major same face.

This statement is painfully irrelevant considering how every single anime artist and his dog is "suffering" from sameface syndrome.

Hell, his style is far from someone like Tony Taka or Takeuchi.

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>>133963761
>only fools would care about originality of art

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>>133963761
never gets old tbqh senpaitachi

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>>133963761
>only fools would care about originality of art

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>>133963821
>>133963807
Yoko Kanno is using "STOLEN" samples in her music. Woah! A true shocker! Sentence her to death.

Wait.

No one cares.

Right.

>>133963100
What a waste of talent all on tracing screenshots.

>>133963820
He doesn't even try to vary the faces though, that's the problem. He has the skill to, but he refuses. His work is stale and he doesn't take risks with it.

And again, just because a lot of shit out there suffers from sameface does not make it okay.

>>133963888
>Yoko Kanno
did you just learn about her yesterday, anon?

>>133963888
>no one cares
>ilyafags honestly believe this

how embarrassing.

>>133963820

At least TT and Takeuchi generally draw the whole body and not just faces.

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>>133963100
He references extremely heavily, but he's got good skills. It's pretty boring desu, but the girls look cute. The amount of skill, but hopelessly crutching on references makes him on par with someone trying to git gud. Definitely not great.

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>>133963865
>>133963826
>>133963821
>>133963807
You are obviously not artists and don't know how it works. A golden rule for any new artists is to find some professional artist you admire and copy the shit out of him. Yeah, that's it. You copy and you learn by doing that. You are not original. You are not bringing anything new. You are pretty much shit artist and you have to rely on someone else. And if you are working hard enough you'd eventually become better and step aside of copying.

Only fools care about originality. Nothing is original, everything was made before you.

>>133963986
ok, i see what you're doing now. Silly of me to have taken bait, but it's 6am here and i just got my cup of coffee.

>>133963986
Well, I'm sorry you have gotten depressed and stooped so low as to become a mere copycat, but there is a way to be completely original and Ilya and Yoko do not do those things. Have some respect for the industry, faggot.

>>133963919
>>133963921
I'm pretty sure I learned about her ages before you, kiddo.

And yeah, that drama about her "stealing samples" is non existent in reality. Literally no one gives a shit about it in studios or Japan in general.

Because everyone does that. Sawano, Kanno, Kajiura. Getting inspired by something else, rehashing your own works, use samples, etc. It's common practice for any artists.

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>>133963986
>A golden rule for any new artists is to find some professional artist you admire and copy the shit out of him

Did you read that from a deviantart tutorial? Well, you get 8/10, for actually making me reply.

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>>133963600
Really popular Russian male name (Iliya) even in slavic folklore.

>>133964044
not him, but as a noob artist myself, I have always been under the impression that artists often assimilate one another's style. Not complete copying but only taking parts that you like.

>Chromatic aberration for drawings

What a huge faggot.

>>133963600
It's also french for there is if split up (il y a)

>>133964065
The only reason it's a drama is because she's one of the larger composers that gets away from it more frequently. While it's a shame, there's a difference between taking something from other composers and turning it into your own thing, and blatantly ripping them off as Kanno does.

>>133964109
(You) here, as a fellow artist struggling to find the fine line between originality and plagiarism, the line isn't as hard to find if you know the difference between influence and imitation. The latter tends to happen more when people get comfortable and lazy.

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>>133964044
>Well, I'm sorry you have gotten depressed and stooped so low as to become a mere copycat, but there is a way to be completely original and Ilya and Yoko do not do those things. Have some respect for the industry, faggot.

And both of them are extremely successful and popular.

Wow, I bet some jealous poorfag like you could tell them how wrong they are but I doubt you'd pass face control with your acne face. :^)

>>133964082
Yeah some DeviantArt guy said it. He was right! What a guy he is.

>>133964172
>The only reason it's a drama is because she's one of the larger composers that gets away from it more frequently. While it's a shame, there's a difference between taking something from other composers and turning it into your own thing, and blatantly ripping them off as Kanno does.

As long as her music is great I don't fucking care if she uses samples or not.

>>133964173
>And both of them are extremely successful and popular.
>bandwagon fallacy
pls anon

>>133963986
>Nothing is original.
Well, it's extremely hard to make an original idea nowadays but it's still possible to make your own original set of not so original ideas.

What rubs me the wrong way is his fan art. Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't you like, supposed to be a fan of something for your work to be called "fan art"? Because posting pics of a video game character, the name of which you don't even know, the day the first trailer comes out, just to ride on the hype, only looks like disgusting attention-whoring to me. Especially when those pics are often traced from promo images.

>>133964217
>muh secrit club fallacy

Leave to reddit please.

How is this /a/ related?

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>>133964173

It's this thread again?

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>>133964228
>What rubs me the wrong way is his fan art. Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't you like, supposed to be a fan of something for your work to be called "fan art"? Because posting pics of a video game character, the name of which you don't even know, the day the first trailer comes out, just to ride on the hype, only looks like disgusting attention-whoring to me. Especially when those pics are often traced from promo images.

What makes you think he doesn't know it?
http://otaku.ru/post/91344642713/kr0npr1nz
He says here that he plays, watches and reads a lot.

I don't know Ilya but I know some other Russian artists. They are nerds, they watch anime, play video games, read visual novels and manga. Don't know what's so special about it. Pretty common stuff.

>>133963897
Doesn't make it okay to do what? Make thousands of dollars by drawing it?

Imagine drawing "realistic" close ups of anime girls and making six figures from it

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>>133964359
>Picasso is some Internet deviant art artist

Woah.
Lots of revelations ITT.

>>133963820
Capcom has loads of amazing artists that shits right over your opinion.

>>133963100
Love his work but I hate how there's artists poorly imitating his style.

>>133963100
He overuses his chromatic aberration. It gets old to some of his works.
Still I like his art.

>>133965855
>chromatic aberration
What is this and should I be embarrassed for not knowing what it is considering I do some freelance illustration stuff?

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>>133966747

Yes, you should be pretty damn embarrassed for not knowing how to use google in the year 2015.

I thought I was in /ic/ for a second.

>>133966911
The lack of merc wip should have tipped you off.

>>133963741
>That and he's a smug asshole.
How is he smug? Or do you just think he's smug because you don'y like him?

>>133966845
Theres no point when idiots like you will do it for me out of spite :^)

>>133967124

I-I had the image ready on my PC, so i-it's not like I saw that much trouble to help you or anything. This is the last time you're getting my attention, so you'd better do your own work next time, geez!

He makes a lot of money off of painting cute yet generic anime girls.

I'm fucking jealous.

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On the topic of originality, I find this documentary to be pretty interesting.

https://youtu.be/coGpmA4saEk

How much does he earn from drawing in a public site anyway?

Who cares about the traced lineart when the result looks stunning? It's cheating a bit but his work is A+ and I'm jealous of all the shekels he gets every day just by doing his hobby.

>>133967552

in summary "Bad artists imitate. Great artists steal." -Pablo Picasso.

>>133968844
In other words "potato, potato." -Picasso

>>133967552

That was honestly wonderful.

>>133963157
>wow looks great
It's traced from a photo by the way.

>>133963100

I was one of his earliest followers on dA.

I have this prickish inclination to act like that makes me somehow special when I'm not.

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>>133969627
Does anyone not recognize this as being from Blade Runner?
It's a pretty famous photo, so I don't think it's supposed to be taken as an original thing.

>>133963100
Cool art.

Some on 4chan seem to hate anyone who is actively creative in any way. It's a weird 'crabs in a bucket' mentality people have here. So they go "same face??". or "hurdur chromatic aberration??" etc. As if they've ever created something themselves. I think it's textbook jealousy.

>>133969627
>>133969904
I think >>133963157 was being sarcastic

>>133963600
There's a male slavic name "Iliya"

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All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

>>133970039
I agree with you but I still think Ilya's stuff is boring.

>>133970039
I have no problem with a lot of his work having repeated elements, that's just his style.

The CA is ugly though, I wish he'd get rid of it.
It's just empty visual flare that will look dated in the future

>>133963100
I like how he draws eyes, and his coloring is good he also appeals to my short-haired girls fetish but for some reason I don't understand why he almost never draws full-body stuff. It's always small pictures on the same fucking resolution all the fucking time. Barely any dynamic poses at all, it feels static and lifeless.

>>133963100
He inspires me and makes me want to surpass him. I want the same level of skill with more dynamic pictures.

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>>133970343
Because he's lazy and completely copy other artworks with his render and then add the same girl face over and over again.

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>>13397086

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>>133970931
And then he sells that and gets money from it. There isn't the slightest originality besides using an existing picture, redrawing exactly the same thing with the only thing he knows. His girl face.

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>>133963100

This thread kind of
<<<<<

well everyone's entitle to an opinion.

I think his great.

>>133970869
>>133970931
This is why I'm not a fan. Doing stuff like this is great for practice but why upload it? Do people really care that you've put that much effort into redrawing someone else's stuff almost verbatim?

>>133971047
He uploads it because that's what he gets money from.

>>133971047
Clearly if he's paid to do it.

>>133971126
>>133971150
Well that sucks. People really are easily impressed.

>>133971047
Eh, think of it as him getting more likely to be noticed if he upload more pieces even if they are nothing special.

The perfect example of selling out. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just business.

Trace and copy-paste a cute dollface on it once a day and make thousands off it.
If anyone would get that amount of money for it, to live comfortably off it and never need to work, they'd do it and never look back. Everyone envies success like that and with good reason.

>>133963100
This guy traces though. I hate shit like that.

>>133963820
I could tell all the Madoka Magica girls apart with hairless black-and-white pictures.

>>133963100
Hah, that picture is like directly traced off a scene from the movie Blade Runner. You're welcome.

Look how much money this chick is making.

https://www.patreon.com/sakimichan?ty=h

It's amazing that people are this thirsty for fanart.

>>133963741
>That and he's a smug asshole.

Explain.

>>133971766
He probably told another jealous retard to fuck off.

>>133971668
I don't understand the point of this, why pay her if she doesn't even draws porn or chacters interacting/funny situations shit like that? I didn't see all of her works, but they're just taking a popular character and drawing it with her own style, nothing fun or espectacular, people do that for fucking free all the time, hell I could even get one of my drawfags friends to do that for me.

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>>133971668
>$66,000 a month

I won't pretend I'm not jealous as fuck, but holy shit

>>133972181
could your drawfag friend get it done with that level of quality? Sakimichan actually spends a lot of time polishing her skills. As much as I hate her gimmicks, her style is clearly very well honed. On top of that she doesn't just draw anime, she draws all sorts of stuff in a (western) anime style. It's not very surprising she makes a lot off commissions when you factor those two together.

It's not like everyone is getting as much as Kronprinz or Sakimichan.

You mention extremely popular artists and there are thousands of scrubs who will never earn so much.

>>>/trash
Why isn't this crossboarding thread gone.

>>133972350
Actually, her art is pretty shit.

>>133968844
China fucking love Picasso.

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>>133971668
>https://www.patreon.com/sakimichan?ty=h

I'm jelly af desu.

>>133964351
It isn't.

>almost 100 replies

God damn, Mods.

Sage and report.
>>>/ic/
>>>/trash/

>>133971631

>>133969904

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>>133972422
Heh I just checked /trash/ right now and...

>>133972350
>could your drawfag friend get it done with that level of quality?
Not even close, but he would do it for free.
The point it's that I just don't understand why pay someone just to draw characters in her own style, I could understand it better if she created situations between characters (ships or whatever) or if she did porn, but it's not even that.

You also have really skilled people who are given far less.
https://www.patreon.com/angelarium?ty=h

>>133972611
This guy earns twice as much while being worse than your drawfag.
https://www.patreon.com/shiin?ty=h

>>133972611
I fucking love this guy and it pisses me off that people who can't draw more than 2 faces are making almost as much, case in point
>>133972684

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>>133971668
>over 65k per mouth
>some anon, with a interesant project, ask for 20k in kickstarter to make her dream come true and fail

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>>133972684

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>>133972535
She does draw softcore porn.

>I just don't understand why pay someone just to draw characters in [their] own style
why pay anyone for art at all?

>>133972611
that's true, but the market doesn't always demand 'skill', which would be easy to explain if you looked at the currently trending anime. Some shitty artists are going to do better than legitimately good artists, and it's the sad truth of the industry. You either sell out or you live a poorfag life being happy with your work.

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>>133972684
>$4,057.01 per month

>>133963100
Tracer piece of shit.

>>133972611
It's not even about raw skill. What this guy's doing is more interesting than "popular thing in anime-ish style"

>>133972684
Shit, I draw better than this guy

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>>133972882
Show me.

>>133972773
Yeah, skill isn't so much a necessity these days as much as it is a nice thing to have; anyone can get popular. It's cool, but kind of lame at the same time.

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>>133972698
>>133972770
>>133972811
>>133972811
You think that's bad?

https://www.patreon.com/jephjacques?ty=h

Pic realeted is his art.

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>>133972936
Sure, not anime related though.

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>>133971668
Man I've seen better art posted to pixiv for free. I wonder why so many amazing japanese artists don't have communities like this? I only know a few with patreon.

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>>133972684
>$4,057.01
I dont get it.

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>>133973026
Make a patreon, I'll donate. Make a deviantart, darw popular shit like nardo, bleach etc. you have a good skill.

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Kody Boy would have a bright future if he just made his own patreon. I bet lots would donate even if ironically.

http://kodyboy555.deviantart.com/

Can't believe this shitty thread is still not deleted and you faggots actually replying without spamming the shit out of it.

Rage thread? okay.
https://www.patreon.com/akabur?ty=h
https://www.patreon.com/shadbase?ty=p
https://www.patreon.com/blackgategame?ty=h
https://www.patreon.com/zoe?ty=h
https://www.patreon.com/YandereDev?ty=h

>>133971668

Sakimi actually is pretty gud and draws lewds

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>>133973026
Good drawing. I liked, anon.

>>133973159
This. kr0nshills are the worst. I'm convinced it's him too. I'm positive I even caught him post in a 3x3 thread where he posted only his own art in the pics. I checked the archives and called him out. Haven't seen it since, although I haven't checked 3x3 threads in a long time.

>>133973163
>last
pls no, he's chill but greedy fuckward

>>133973020
That looks like a worse version of Questionable Content circa 2005

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>>133973331
so fukcing close

>>133973148
He's got his own style. That's better than most of the artists in this itt desu

>>133973119
Haha, in the future probably. I do have a >tumblr, but I only recently started using it.

>>133973207
Thank you, anon!

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>>133973148
>171 pages of the same fucking shit
This guy is nuts.

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Check 'em.

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>>133973148
>>133973440
Holy shit. my sides.

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>My new badger character. His name is Steve. He's a scuba diver. He's my new character to live in Florida. He lives in Lantana.

>>133973221

A while back he would post threads on /v/ with his art as OP and then samefag responses like, "source on OP pic", "it's kr0nprinz, check out his patreon". And the same would happen every fucking day. I thought it might be him, so I told him to fuck off, and those replies were never made again, even though he still makes threads with his pics every now and then.

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>>133973521

>>133972684
Shit I love the fuck out of that artstyle, but then again it's something not many people are into so that's why it's not too popular like >>133971668

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His shit all looks the same. Shit artist confirmed.

>western anime style

>>133973678
Linked the wrong one meant to say >>133972611
Then again, point still stands though. Anime style will always be more popular since it's what sells now.

>thread has nothing to do with anime or manga

>drawfaggots obviously shilling their patreon

>up for 7 hours

>145 replies

Are the Mods dead or /a/?

Als chekc em

>>133973847
/a/'s mods are really really averse to using /trash/ for some reason

I mean, /trash/ is a failed experiment, but still.

>>133973847
Probably burnt out from the sticky yesterday
It was a banfest

>>133972684
He doesn't actually, >>133972611 is per two weeks so he's getting a bit more. And damn, he's good.

>>133973043
> I dont get it.

Shiin has been doing this for years, so he build a pretty big fanbase thanks to that.
Actually, I myself discovered him a few years ago I liked his stuff for what they were, silly porn but the fetish made my hard and that was enough.
Except in the meantime I myself began drawing and because I that the flaws of all his pics began to get way too big, while it feels like the guy is also getting even worst as the time go. His coloring is horrendous and the faces are garbage. And to add shit he created this patreon like one or two years ago and he has been getting way too much money considering what he's usually doing.

Though to be fair. He sometimes does full doujin stories, and they're surprisingly hot.

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>already hating him because of popularity
I like his works, he has a great sense of proportions, colors and his coloring style is unique. There is something catchy about each piece of his that makes you want to open and see it, it's a perfect medium of moe and semi-realism.

>>133973026
It's just a simple face. Show what you can do with bodies and stuff.

Shiin is actually pretty competent when it comes to porn comics.

>>133974228
I'm drawing a body right now, still a wip. I only recently starting using my tablet again, so here's an old pencil drawing.

http://i.imgur.com/cOvNNvH.jpg

I'm not into drawing porn though, so it's kind of a weird baseline to start from.

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>>133974228
Oh, and here's a male body. I'm currently studying perspective.

Apologies for non-/a/ related content.

>>133974345
>I'm not into drawing porn
You'll never make money with that attitude.

>>133974402
Is that Aizen with four arms?

>>133974089
plus those dicksucking lips

>>133974472
Softcore, yes. Hardcore? Probably not, but it depends. I want to aim at a larger demographic.

>>133974479
Just a redraw of something I sketched a couple years back. It deviated a lot from its current form.

>>133974089
This
Nothing more to add really
I wish he wouldnt use chromatic aberration because it looks like shit but other than that his art is great

This is why kr0npr0n is rich. He peddles his shit everywhere. And the mods aren't doing anything.

>>133974089
>he has a great sense of proportions

What proportions, he only draws heads and shoulders?

>>133974345
>>133974402
> I'm not into drawing porn though, so it's kind of a weird baseline to start from.

Not really. he's a PORN artist. What is important isn't how perfect looking it is, but if you will fap to it. And in that regard, his stuffs are pretty popular. Of course, you may not like it, but a lot of people still do. Shiin has got a pretty good diversity of poses in his comics, and they don't have the awful shading in his usual illustrations, which are overall much more lazier lately.
http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1770759

Or a some examples of pics from him I still like today and find damn hot.
http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1038885
http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1035488
http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=981022


I ten thousand times prefer a porn artist that I can use as fap fuel rather than ones that doesn't even makes me hard.

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>>133974928
I threw up in my mouth a little
What the fuck is this shit?

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>>133974915
this, not like he put bodies and background in perspective or shit like that. And to add fuel to the fire they're al copied. it's as lazy as you can be.

>>133974089
>>133974751
Actual artist here. You're objectively wrong. That's all.

>>133974541
>I want to aim at a larger demographic.
Why be popular when you can be rich? A small but wealthy demographic can give you more cash than trying to appease a general audience. Just look at furfags. They throw so much money at garbage, it's incredible.

>>133972435
edgy

>>133975009
Don't question the dick, if it wasn't porn I would find that shit as well, but it still somehow gets me hard.

Though he's one of the few western guys I follow, all the rest is doujin/H-manga, and more high tier stuff like Jun's.

>>133975042
I am an artist too, you are objectively stupid.

>>133975132
And on the side note, no, I'm not among the patreons.

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>>133974915
Artists usually fuck up when drawing big anime eyes in half realistic faces. He always draws them perfectly symmetrical and it never looks odd.

>>133975042
Show us your works. I'm an artist too.

>>133974928
Well, that's what I was saying. I don't draw porn, so it's weird to compare ME to someone who does.

>>133975103
Good point. It's something I'll have to think about in the future though.

>>133974089
>great sense of proportions
because he's been well established as a tracer

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>>133974928
ayy

>>133975229
> Well, that's what I was saying. I don't draw porn, so it's weird to compare ME to someone who does.


Aren't you the one who said "even I am better than him"?

>>133975219
He really good for what he does, which is really really, limited. One girl sameface, painting render, and the rest is copied from another artwork.

He has skills but he's beyond lazy. Compare with >>133975036 for some high tier illustrations with cute faces.

>>133975238
Between the references and his art, his art is far better proportioned.

>>133973692
it's called having a set style. Look at Akira Toriyama and Araki
I agree more variation would be better but having similar samefaces isn't bad when it's still distinguishable from his other pictures

>>133975272
Yes. I'll be more specific: I draw objectively nicer than he does.

Do I draw porn better than him? No, it's not something I do in the first place.

So it's my own personal opinion, sorry for the misunderstanding.

>>133975320
You sound jealous
Just because hes not as good as some god tier artist that makes him shit? I dont follow your logic

>>133975219
>Show us your works. I'm an artist too.
We're one merc wip away from being /ic/.

>>133975350
Yeah, actual people are worse proportioned than uguu anime girls.

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>>133975042
>>133975154
>>133975219
Oh, yeah? guess what? I'm a artist too.

>>133975410
People have flaws, idealized drawings do not.

You'd think an artist who's given money to do whatever he wants would be more creative.

>>133975376
You're talking to one than more person here. I never said he was shit. I said his stuffs are really limited, boring and uninspired.

>>133975376
He's good, but he's not "70k a month" good.

T.b.h If I got paid that much to draw the same uninspired shit I would be completely okay with life and not care what haters think

>>133973148
Reminds me on that one guy who spams that low tier Ah! My Goddess stuff for several years!

>>133975410
Just wanted to add, in technical sense, his works are fine. But that doesn't change the fact that he's completely devoid of ANY creativity and invention. Painting from references is worthless if you can't do anything else. Any retard can copy/stylize a photo or a movie screenshot. True challenge is creating something on your own.

>>133975320
What's really going on about that pic is the background, not the character. The animu in your pic is the definition of a sameface. You seem to think that detailed work means the artist is more talented.

>>133975410
The references I was talking about were animu too. He adapts it to his style.

>>133975611
Did Kron show any skill for bodies, perspective and backgrounds? He's good at what he does, which is limited, and he's lazy for a guy that gets so much money. That's all there is to say.

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Why does Japan has a higher amount of quality artists?

>>133975730
It really doesn't, you just look in the wrong places.

https://www.artstation.com/

>>133975685

He tweeted some sketches he did of real people in subway, parks and elsewhere outdoors, and he definitely has the skill to do varied kinds of people, perspectives and postures. He just never actually posts actual, original illustrations like that. It's like the guy literally can only draw what he sees and doesn't have an ounce of imagination.

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>>133975685
>perspective
Many times.
>bodies
Someone who can draw faces like that can nail bodies and anatomy. He has drawn great backgrounds too.

>>133969904
Not many people actually watched that movie

>>133975831
> Many times.

The pic you posted isn't supposed to be your example right?


And no, the face doesn't means much, since it's litterally one face he draws over and over again and probably the only stuff if he ever created.

>>133975831
Don't mean to pick up a fight, but the picture you posted has no good anatomy. Aside from the exact same copy/paste face that he perfected drawing the overall figuure is bad.

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who
>google
>it's Kr0nz
Oh, the hypocritical plagiarist guy that twitter artists really fucking hate

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>>133975846
What? Blade Runner is like the Citizen Kane of Sci-fi movies.
It's a fucking classic. Next you'll tell me people haven't seen the good, the bad and the ugly or Titanic.

>>133975831

The head doesn't fit the body at all, so I'm pretty sure it's traced off a photo.

>>133975910
Exactly, and that's called craftsmanship not art. To be an artist you have to have at least ounce of imagination.

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>>133963100
The fact that he makes so much money from just redrawing things that already exist just reinforces my belief that non artists are really easy to impress.

>>133975501
70k? Youre fucking kidding me
No way

>>133975831
The face really doesn't fit the hairs. Same for >>133970931

>>133975927
Putting any of those movies in the same category as Titantic is laughable considering its hailed across the world. Fact is, Blad Runner is a kind of cult classic and loved by those with refined tastes. I tried showing BR to my friends and they all hated it. Thought it was boring.

>>133975900
That was for anatomy. You only need to open his gallery and you'll find many examples of perspective.

>>133975910
>has no good anatomy
For real?

>>133975932
>the head doesn't fit the body
The poster before said the anatomy was bad, and now you say it's taken from somewhere. Make up your minds.

>>133975831
Why did he have to put a red line on the chin? That just makes it worse. The head already doesn't fit hte body.

>>133975977
Fuck, meant to quote >>133975808

>>133976031
But
That can't be true

>>133976003
>The face really doesn't fit the hairs
>what is style

now this is getting autismo

>>133976069

Wow, it's like you're talking with different people here, buddy!

The anatomy in a traced illustration generally looks more or less wonky, because a photograph with three-dimensional depth and natural shading doesn't translate well into a 2D painting.

>>133976069
>For real?
Yup, for real.

>>133976069
>For real?

front positioned body, undetailed, lots of hidden stuff, one hand is hidden with the arms looking weirdly small, and the other is badly done.

It's really nothing special or impressive.
>>133976102
What? If it was a real proper style, then the face and hairs would looks well together, here it doesn't.

>>133976031
It's popular as fuck, man. I had to study it in my English class back in high school.

>>133976070
Fuck you. Now I can't unsee it.

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>>133975808
Someone posted the original source of at least a couple of those subway drawings before (flickr photo link) so at least some of those are just photo referenced, but I think that still takes some skill to translate things into a different style

doesn't change the fact that he is a plagiarizing asshole though.

>>133976070
Something tells me he drew the body separately, cropped a head drawing then placed it there. Hence, the red line.

>>133976128
Sorry to say this, but you need glasses.

>>133976155
Check up the definition of style.
>front positioned body, undetailed
Does it need to be detailed to look good? You can't draw front-positioned pics now because it makes them automatically shit? Don't be so stupid.

>>133976216
wow

>>133976248
As an artist, I do that a lot, because it puts some contrast from the head and the neck. The face looks like it's part of the neck if you don't draw a line clearly.

>>133976254
Sorry, but you need basic education. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm done talking to you.

>>133975730
In that case, most of it is just a real photo with some effects added on it. But I tend to prefer the "good" Japanese artists to the "good" Western artists because there's typically more simplicity. By which I mean, just because you are artistically capable of drawing the reflections on every single button of a girl's jacket as she gets fucked in the ass doesn't mean it helps the image achieve its goal.

>>133976254
Okay. Remove the left arm. No check the torso position. it's totally fucked up. And yes, it should be more detailed, plenty of parts looks really flat. and the fact only the face is detailed makes it even weirder.

>>133974928
I think im gonna be sick

>>133976314
>basic education
Don't give that shit to me. Only a dumb amateur can think that a picture is shit because it doesn't have a pretty background and 10000 lines inside of it.
>it's front-positioned, so it's bad
Pff, look who's talking about basic ed.

>>133976216
The main thing I get from this image is how effective action lines are, holy shit.

>>133976216
>>133976405
Are people mad because he didn't credit the original? Or, because people were paying him to do copies?

>>133976382
I'm a drawfag and I can clearly tell everything was handrawn. Not saying he may not have traced a photo though.

>>133976464
if you ask me it's probably a mixture of how popular he is compared to the level of effort he puts into his compositions. I don't think he deserves the popularity when he's essentially redrawing the body and then slapping his autistic trademark face onto it.

>>133976518
He completely redraws quite a few of those in his own art style. Simply putting the character in the same body position isn't that bad.

>>133976470

I'm pretty sure the building in the background is a 3D-model.

>>133976216
I think the chihiro pic is the only "tracing doing right". the rest is shit.
>>133976464
Both. plus he act like a douchebag.

>>133976589
maybe, which would be even more legit since the artist did the 3d model. Anyway, the painting won't make it itself, it's really high level.

>getting paid because they do softcore porn
>too skilless and untallanted to actually do manga or anything of worth to the community so they're basically black holes for money

Kek. Americans really like wasting money.

>>133976644

Yeah, I'm not saying it's wrong. It a nice piece.

>>133976405
Isn't this what they call master study?

>>133976464
you mean other artists? probably because he deceived others into thinking his works are original and not copied and that he shat on other copy artists in deviantart for copying, even though he copies himself. (I'm sure someone has a screenshot of that deleted crit message of his somewhere)

I mean I'm pretty sure no one would've gave a shit if he just said in the very beginning the majority of his works were copied.

>>133976727
No. You're not suppoed to change anything if you're doing a master study.
Master study is code word for practicing my forgery skills.

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>>133976388
Nope, it's not, it looks perfect.

>>133976730
Bottom right, I believe. >>133976216

>>133976730
>(I'm sure someone has a screenshot of that deleted crit message of his somewhere)
http://kuvshinov-ilya.deviantart.com/journal/Plagiarism-and-Tracing-cases-511968928

>>133976727
That how could be called if he didn't only do that and got payed 70k per months just for doing them.

Her he just discretely take a pic, redraw it with his render and put his sameface.

>>133976464
What he does is essentially what someone does when they're doing studies. Plenty of artists do this. I think people are mad because he doesn't treat his "studies" the same way other people normally treat studies. That is, declaring it is a study, etc. But I don't know much about his behaviour online, so this is mostly an assumption. People typically don't get as asspained over artists who do nothing but studies as much as they get asspained over this guy, so it must be because he doesn't treat them as studies.

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>>133976779

>>133976863
Your pic describes your sense of anatomy pretty well.

>>133976757
You do master studies to learn techniques or skills employed by the original artist to create the piece. These people that copy may have nice technique but who cares when they have no creativity.

>>133963100
I simply hate him because despite being boring, unimaginative and a sellout, he's still a better artist than me, and he's successful.
there, I said it.

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Look at this perfect anatomy, man. That fucking anatomy, man, look at that hand, fucking look at it.

>>133976806
>UPD.: prints are deleted.
Oh, so he tried to sell prints of his master copies.

>>133976405
If I remember right has a pic which proves that he copy another pic from a guy in pixiv. It's a anime pic. maybe tokyo ghoul.

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>>133976885

>>133976913
>no creativity.
Why waste your time with creativity when technique is enough to feed you. Art is a business.

You can work 9 to 5 as a burger flipper and make creative art in your free time, or you could be like these guys and find a niche.

In this case it's copying shitty anime art and drawing it with a superior technique.

I salute them for playing one of the most retarded communities out there like a fiddle.

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>>133976949
I can't believe I'm doing this for some artist I don't even know, but you're a fucking retard son. Learn what style means and then show up to teach us your "basic education".

Even the top dog sakimichan isn't hated as much as kr0npr0n.

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>>133976806
>First of all, I need to say I NEVER trace photos or other people's works.
This guy needs help. mental help.

>>133977147
>sakimichan
>hated
Yeah. Those 60K per month speak of hate.
Yeah.

Why can't you fucking landwhale tumblr tier artists get a fucking clue?

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>>133977097
Thanks for confirming you know shit all about art. But don't mind me, keep eating that shit up.

>meme artist can only get by because of muh pretty coloring

I love when hack artist only have coloring going for themselves and they either copy, or have shit anatomy.

>>133976031
>Blad Runner is a kind of cult classic and loved by those with refined tastes
Get the fuck out of here
It does not deserve the praise it gets. It was an ok movie
And the replicant that gave the hints to the bladerunner was far more interesting than him
Protagonist has no character aside that forced rape scene. Unless the characterization is supposed to be stale and inhuman to show how much of a replicant the characters were

>>133977239
Show us good animu art Leonardo.I'm bretty sure I'm a better artist than you.

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>>133976779
>>133976863
>>133976885

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>>133977061
People that are skilled work in the film/game/entertainment industry making the things everyone consumes, they don't flip burgers. This guy does well, but like you said it is a niche and even then most people who go into a career in art do so because they want to do something they like, if he likes producing derivative copies of work that is his prerogative but most others prefer to do original work. Look at pic related, he's mostly known for his fan art online but he does comic book covers and stuff like that.

>>133977319
ten/10

>>133977232
What the fuck are you talking about? All I'm saying is that kr0n receives more hate.

>>133977321
Man, I'm not much of a fan of his female sameface, but artgem is the real deal.

>>133977321
>People that are skilled work in the film/game/entertainment industry
Speaking as someone who works in the game industry I can say that unfortunately, no, 3/4th of the artists working in the industry can't get on the slavs little finger even when they're copying shit.

That's why most companies that need shit drawn call up chinks nowadays. Western artists are shit and all you have to blame are your retarded art schools that teach jack shit.

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>>133977301
Oh, watch out, the baby's going to throw a tantrum. You already made it perfectly clear how well you understand art, no need for further proof.

>>133977483
>baby
>posts that gif
>tfw I managed to get in a discussion with an underage fuck who pretends to be an art expert

>>133977426
There are tonnes of places to develop practical illustration skills, even if fine art has gone off the deep end. Most people are turned off from it because of how intensive courses are or how much work it actually takes to become good enough to get work. You just never hear about good western artists because they are all locked up tight by their companies and little of their work gets seen in the public because of NDAs.

>>133963100
>shilling kr0n
>not /a/ related in the slightest
MODS

>>133977744
>not /a/ related
He has drawn plenty animu/manga characters and his style is anime-ish. That's enough.

First, gooktoons. Then, RWBY. Now, kr0n.

>>133977744
>scream for mods
>get trips and dubs
>shitposters not
fucking irony.

>>133977595
Let me just post some things off the top of my head:

>Pillars of Eternity
>Concept Artists: Kazunori Aruga, Polina Hristova
The game is 3D apart from that.

>Shadworun : Dragonfall
>Environment Art Lead : Jenn Tran
The game is 3D apart from the environments.

>Transistor
>Art : Jen Zee

>XCOM : EW
>Concept Artists : Piero Macgowan, Aaron Yamada-Hanff, Bryce Homick

So far out of the jobs that require art skills only a single Western name.

I could go on. Really in my 5 experience so far in the industry when "pencils and paints' are involved they start looking for a slav, a chink or whatever else. Very rarely a Westerner.

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>>133977893
>RWBY
RWHO?

I love his lips. Don't carbout the rest.

>>133975927
I haven't seen any of the movies you mentioned in your post
I think I have a Blade Runner Laserdisc and a copy of Titanic somewhere, I've just never watched it.

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what do you think of this one?

>>133978921
He looks like teenagers now a days with those giant poofs of hair on their small heads.

>>133977426
Working at gamestop doesn't make you part of the industry famalam.

>>133977956
I think Jenn Tran and Jen Zee are both westerners

Has this guy ever done full body or just trace torsos?