Holy shit is this real life?

Now we just need those Aldermain and Mismarca updates!


Ha ha

>people read anime stories instead of actual books

jesus what is this world coming to

>>133810193
Most "actual books" are trash unless you only read classic litterature.

>>133810193
>people shitpost on 4chan instead of being productive in their life

jesus what is this world coming to

>>133810193
This, people could have read The Ways of Kings and another Brandon Sanderson fantasy book during the time it takes to finish one shit LN with shit prose.

>>133810258
*tips fedora*

>>133810052
I don't understand

>>133810282
shitposting on 4chan is productive, retard

>>133810258
>people read modern books instead of classic literature
jesus what is this world coming to

>>133810193
fasntng tale Onii-chan, why don't you busy yourself with one of those actual books?

>>13381019
i don't read LN, but you could say the same thing about reading manga. you could say it is just anime with black and white pictures.
(i think manga is better then anime btw)

>>133810348
About as productive as cutting your foreskin off.

>>133810381
I just read Fahrenheit 451 last night. Literally better than any anime shit I've ever sawed.

>>133810288
Isn't fantasy the western equivalent of LN shit in Japan? A lot of garbage for nerds with the occasional gems here and there.

>>133810052
>Being happily surprised about a below average LN
Just because is not another school battle harem doesn´t mean you have to shit your pants over it. Read a real fantasy novel instead.

>>133810288
>read books for middle-schoolers
>act superior to people reading Japanese books for middle-schoolers

>>133810424
So really productive?

>>133810288
Good now go back to /lit/

>>133810429
>sawed
Is this on purpose?

>>133810052
Or is it just fantasy

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>>133810528
Please don't redirect people who read genre fiction to /lit/.
How would you feel if people redirected shitters who talk about Naruto to /a/?

>>133810464
But Sanderson's shit is garbage, son.

>>133810595
>lmao bruh i read art of war im so enlightened XD

>>133810429
Wow, you read a book?
I prefered Martian Chronicles.

>>133810288
And you could have done something productive during the time you were shitposting on 4chan.
But guess what are you doing now?

>>133810258
>Fahrenheit 451
>reading entry level
>newfag without minimum
>thinks he's cool
Topkek. Don't forget to read all classic.

>>133810632
Yeah, I'm gonna read Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe next. Did you read that one, senpai?

>>133810052
Now we just have to wait 6 years for the other 9 books to get translated.

>>133810365
The deader the author, the better he is.

>>133810604
Then read good writers like Dan Simmons and Suggs

>>133810463
More like 99% of written works are garbage, and a good amount of that good 1% comes from Fantasy.

Oh hey, is just like anime! Difference from LN being is easier to find something good. Yes more than a handful.

I mean list 10 LNs that are alright read, story, concept. characters and moral message?
All I can think of:
Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria
Legend of the Legendary Heroes
First act of Shield Hero - barely readable
Haruhi
Yahari
Spice and Wolf
Kino no Tabi
Welcome to NHK (No pics, but well the list is hard to fill)
Note how I excluded the shitty power fantasy stuff? Because they are shit tier about self masturbation.

>>133810595
I don't mind dealing with shitposters as long they are /a/ related.

>>133810745
>haruhi

is this nigga serious

>>133810689
Dead authors that no one remembers are probably shit.
Dead authors that people remember are good.

This rule applies to everything, not just literature

>>133810052
I thought it was dead

>>133810595
what exactly is "genre fiction"? it just seems like fiction that just tries to have a story and doesn't try to have a deeper meaning, at least from what i've seen from offboard /lit/izens.

>>133810745
DDD

>>133810745
>moral message
Are you for real?
Also it's a huge list given how little LNs are translated in English. You're making them more appealing that you want.

>>133810052
>(Novel)
Preemptively DROPPED.

>>133810052
>reading books
>ever
There's too much anime to watch.

>>133810193
"Anime stories" have inherent qualities that are enjoyable. You would not watch anime if this weren't true so your statement is retarded.

>>133810660
Guess I should get my smug on too because I've read nonsense like Brave New World and 1984. You're not a intelectual and your taste in books is shit and will always be shit, the fact that you're trying to one up nerds on a fucking anime board tells volumes about just how fucking insecure you are.

>>133810134
Everyone dropped Aldermain like hot coal once Yakitori died.
And nobody's lunatic enough to translate Mismarca, besides js06 I guess, but even he's got his hands full with Kawakami/Kamachi stuff.

>>133810595
But every piece of literature is fiction, surely you meant fantasy?

>>133810604
Never read his stuff, but going by his resume, guy got an impressive numbers of prestige accolades. I doubt average garbage could receive them.

>>133810648
>Not dual tasking
Well, damn mate, sucks to be as inflexible as you.

>>133810937
>Never read his stuff
Then fuck off, if you haven't even read Sanderson's entry-level fantasy stuff then you have no business in this thread.

>>133810804
Yes, Proust's and Joyce's stuff is the height if entertainment. I've had more fun reading random pulp fantasy novels.

>>133810870
I just makes fun of young edgy people who just open world of books but start shitting of everything else and thinking that they're superior being. Just think about anime newfags for example.

>>133810987
>if you haven't read an entry-level Western fantasy author you have no business in this thread
Mods, this is clearly not /a/-related.

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Kumoko v1 cover. What the fuck is that pink thing. It barely looks like a spider and Kumoko was a black spider until she turned white.

>>133810473
That novel had 800+ pages. I had to put off reading it since it was such a heavy read. I doubt middle schoolers read anything other than their home work assignment that is at most 2 pages.

>Hmm, here is The Great Gatsby and some generic anime shit
>I think I'll read the generic anime shit!

This is why Trump is a presidential candidate, guys.

>>133810987
Is this post some sort of new age joke or something?
Because it isn't funny.

>>133810745
Good is subjective since all I want from my reading material is entertainment which LNs offer in spades considering all the dumb stuff that's out there. Getting pretentious over fucking LNs is laughable.

>>133810873
Don't talk as if you're everyone. There are plenty of people who are mature enough to not drop a novel because of one persons death.

>>133811033
Sanderson's style leads more to LN-style proses and settings, which would make it really easy to adapt.
But that's one the reasons why it's below average.

>>133810987
>>>/lit/

>>133811072
4th graders were reading fucking harry potter

>>133811072
Nigger, I started high school the week before Way of Kings came out, and I had it preordered. Not everyone's illiterate until age eighteen.

>>133810853
Which just mean how fucking generous I acutally am.

>>133810804
Fame isn't really a criteria for quality in litterature (as in every other medium).

Is there a board with more pretentious bullshit than /lit/?

>>133810873
I never cared about Yakitori so her death doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the books.

VN's > Manga > 'real' books == LNs >>> Reincarnation LNs

>>133810987
Wait are you praising the author or making fun of him? I cant tell.

>>133811190
This.
sorta

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>start reading random LN
>half of the "book" is spent on a shitty poorly written exposition
I'll stick to VNs, manga and anime.

>>133811040
Guessing it's supposed to be her Zoa Ere form but eeh, I don't like it.

>>133811078
>too dumb to just read both
>/pol/ posting

>>133810689
Do you even know what it takes for a book to qualify as a classic? Research it and you will realise its not just about age.

>>133811190
Some reincarnation LN stories are amazing though and a ton of VNs are fucking horrible.

>>133811163
It's a decent metric when talking about dead people, because plebs can get hyped for the latest shit but only enthusiasts care about old shit

>VNs > Manga
Maybe if you want to spend forty hours on a story.

>>133811190
You forgot WNs, and MTL WNs deserve a special category in hell by themselves.

>>133811228
>start reading random LN
>half of it is spent on nationalistic wanking

>>133811178

/mu/?

>>133811145
>>133811149
Where are you from? Barely any kids read at all here (N.A). They just play their mini games on their Ipads.

>>133811229
Zoa Ere had scythe front legs so can't be that.

>>133811190
>muh picture buks

lol pleb with a tiny brain detected

>>133811040
Angry monkey is the thing on the bottom right, man I love those things, a whole species of angry monkeys that swears vengeance if you kill one of them and it doesn't matter where you are because every monkey on the planet is out to get you.

>>133811072
Grisaia no Kajitsu's VN has +1 million words. That doesn't make it any better.

>>133811178
I pity /lit/. Poor souls trying so hard to become snobs and pedants in internet. I bet most of them don't really enjoy literary fiction.

>>133811190
Are LNs with MMO mechanics while not MMOs higher or lower than reicarnation LNs?

>>133811301
>N.A
North America or North Auschwitz?

>>133811190
It just depends of the guy writing them, so that's dumb overall.
Manga and VN are not even the same medium.

>>133811190
>VN's > Manga
>eroge vs art
Jesus Christ

>>133811040
Alaba looks kind of weird. When it was described as wolfish I guess I had a different idea in mind. Since the monkeys and stuff are on there v1 will probably end with the monkey fight / heading to the middle layer after the fight.

>>133811307
Then hell if I know what's going on there. I'll always have my imagination.

>>133810546
Caught in a landslide,
No escape from reality.

>>133811295
You're not reading a random LN, just Mahouka or Gate.

>>133811190
Manga>VN>Anime>Western Novels>LNs>Playing with your tummy>WNs>Fat-useless-pussy-beta-NEET-Reincarnation-Power-Fantasy

>>133811232
Can you read book when you can't pick up a joke?

>>133811444
>playing with your tummy
W-what?

>>133811341
The same, only Hack did it okay, that´s all.

>>133811444
Playing with your tummy should be rate higher

>>133811408
There are a lot of VNs that aren't eroge, and most manga are shit.

Shit, fuck.
I made this thread so I can make someone smile that their slowly updated semi-decent fantasy LN got a new chapter, not invite fucking /lit/ and their shit taste.

>>133811078
I fucking hate The Great Gatsby, I'd take average LNshit over it any day of the week.

>>133811301
Uhh, New York?
Granted when I referred to 4th graders reading Harry Potter, there weren't Ipads back then. I don't really know what kids do now, but that was only a decade ago.

>>133811492
Hack was set in an mmorpg so it makes sense for it to have those stats at least.

>>133811489
Exactly, something as inane and unproductive as that is more enjoyable.

>>133811274
There's a shitload of great forgotten authors and one-hit wonders, so it really doesn't cut it.

>>133810873
>Yakitori
Wait I'm reading the manga, you mean Yatori? Because I don't remember seeing Yakitori

>>133811408

naked characters + art > art

Well yeah, why do you think the renaissance was so popular.

>>133811495
You made me happy, anon, and that's all that matters.

>>133811541
What does it mean? Do you have rolls of fat to play with, or do you just mean fingering your bellybutton, or what?

>>133811495
You have yourself to blame. Making a thread about a shit nip novel that barely anyone wants to read. The discussion turned out better than what would be imaginable.

>>133811495
LN related threads right now on /a/ are pretty worthless to bother trying to discuss anything. Everyone knows a mod will move it to /jp/ and kill it at any time.

>>133810604
It depends on the novel, but I think that the major problems come from his characters

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I can never follow along in actual books. I always get lost and forget what's even happening. I need occasional pictures and anime girls to help me stay on track or else my tiny brain will just wander into eternity.

>>133811560
Name one good book no one knows about. Pro tip: you can't.

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>>133811494
>There are a lot of VNs that aren't eroge
Name some
>and most manga are shit.
SON

>>133811518
Have you not been interacting with society the last half decade or what? Last time I visited N.Y, majority of the kids were more engrossed in Skylanders and some stupid P2W strategy game on their pads.

>>133811495
We had a few good threads, but recently every LN threads has been riddled by the usual "real book" stupidity.
Can't do anything about retards sadly.

>>133811670
This is what anime does to your brain, people.

>>133811670
Following an ongoing series is a pain in the ass because one books is out every 2-3 years unless you are reading Dresden's files

>>133811495
Dude I'm happy this got updated, but you have to remember that this place is full of elitists. I just hope dragon girl gets more development

>>133811576
Show me your vndb list. You can't be serious.

The Keys to the Kingdom
Gormenghast
Mistborn
The Malazan Book of the Fallen
The Name of the Wind
The Rithmatist


You faggots go read these, right now.

>>133811670
It takes time for the brain to get used to words.

>>133811729
Better than being pretentious /lit/ trash.

>>133811680
Not him but that´s an oxymoron. Rephrase it like, name one good book that is not well known.

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>>133811670
Reminder that this is the kind of a person you get into arguments with
Let it sink in for a second

>>133811568
Also dubbed Fried Chicken

>>133811766
Can't, too busy with my LN backlog+GBF, have Dune to read too.

>>133811723
I blame that mod that keeps moving threads to /jp/ so they die, it created a hostile attitude for LNs.

>>133811692
Key's stuff for example, those are one most famous VNs in the industry.
>SON
How many manga do you consider good? 100? 200? Out of, what, 20000 titles?

>>133811766
Anything by Brandon Sanderson already reads like a LN you kek

>>133811593
Like doing some drum rolls on your stomach, clean your bellybutton, try to fasten your muscles and what not.

Cross-boarding scum need to leave.

>>133811818
Shit it's still not clicking

>>133811680
>Name one good book no one knows about
That's fucking retarded. Do you expect me to list something that one guy wrote and burned immediately a few centuries ago?
When I'm talking about forgotten authors, I'm not talking about less-known authors, not litteraly litteracy who.

>>133810429

Most things are. The only good things coming out of anime lately have mostly been movies and OVAs that have nothing to do with light novels or the late night ecchi scene. It's truly amazing how much the overall quality of Japanese animated things goes up when it's totally separated from the LN/VN scenes tropes and cliches and seemingly effortlessly so at that.

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>>133811670
me too

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>>133811859
>Key's stuff

>>133811670
dyslexia

>>133811670
Heh, that´s cute mate. Thanks for being honest. But shitty novels tends to have that effect. What have you been reading?

>>133811894
Yeah you should.

>>133811859
Key is shit though.
At least say the Infinity serie or something.

>>133810473

The irony is that Light Novel and Visual Novel readers have a massive unfounded superiority complex and truly think that their favorite genre works are gods gift to literature. You could make an entire "LN fans say the darndest things" type compilation out of some of the posts that come out of that sub-fandom and make a book or TV show out of it and probably never run out of Grade A material.

>>133811942
Is this the average twitter poster?

Are George R.R Martin and Tolkien entry level?

>>133811692
Stein's Gate

>>133810288
>fantasy
Why would I waste my time with a genre that's STILL trying to do the exact same thing Tolkien already did.

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>>133810843
Genre fiction is basically literature that can be easily classified as belonging to a specific genre (horror, romance, fantasy, science fiction, mystery, thriller, etc.), is mostly focused on the plot, and is written primarily for commercial entertainment. It's "literature" that doesn't have any actual literary merit, it's the written equivalent of television.
Googling would probably provide a more precise definition, I'm just talking out of my ass here.
>>133810909
Genre fiction, as opposed to literary fiction. Non-fiction literature exists as well, though.

>>133811072
I got the Hobbit, Lord of the Rings, Silmarillion, Roverandom, and the first two Harry Potter books for my tenth birthday (which is in late July) and read them all over summer break. I'd like to believe that I was a genius child prodigy who squandered his talent, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing exceptional about this. Reading isn't hard, and kids aren't retards.

>>133811966
I didn't say it was good, though. He just asked for an example. And I can't really blame nips for mixing some ecchi stuff in their VNs, since that's what sells.

>>133812018
Narutoe and Wanpiss of Western Fantasy respectively.

>>133810745

Light Novels are pretty much about pure otaku self insertion power fantasies and catering to fetishes. Morality, character arcs, storytelling, sticking to a concept and generally having things develop in a natural direction barely factor into them, but when they occasionally do the result is generally something actually kind of passable.

>>133810193
I'm willing to read "The cat's craddle" sisnce it appeared really interesting in 999.
Is it good ?

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>>133812038

>>133812068
More like Dragon ball and Naruto/WannPiss

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>>133811916
LN buisness is good for ghostwriters.
>>133812020
>>133811966
Come on. Name something not entry lvl

>>133810745
Baccano is also quite good.

>>133812054
look at this special snowflake who thinks hes important enough to warrant a trip. nice superiority complex you got going on there, kiddo.

>>133812131
>Come on. Name something not entry lvl
Aselia

Also, Web Novels are basically on the same level as fanfiction.

>>133811995
>The irony is that Light Novel and Visual Novel readers have a massive unfounded superiority complex
Only true for the annoying Japanese readers mustard race. Everyone else just discuss the plot or talk about their waifu.
>sub-fandom
>>>/tumblr/

>>133811822
>GBF
Shit's a goddamn timesink. Fuck

>>133812131
Chaos;Head

>>133812158
https://vndb.org/v74 ?

>>133812018
Don´t be dumb, Tolkien works are hard to read if you suffer from ADHD, guy is talking about trees for pages upon pages.

When you read everything, everything feels generic, I've read over 1300 manga, around 200 LNs and watched around 600 anime with at least a cour.


But what I love most is harem
Fuck you it just mushes my brain and it feels so kimochi

>>133812211
It doesn't help that most of them are machine translated by SEA idiots who don't know shit about both (jap/eng) languages.

Is Nisioisin a good writer?

>>133812158
Seinarukana never ever

>>133811670
I'm kind of similar to this but my eyes just kind of drift to the white space between the words after a while and I just kind of scroll over the words, still reading but not bothering to take any meaning from them. Also reading gives me a headache, I don't know how people can do nothing but read for hours and hours

>>133812131
Yu-No?

>>133812076
Yes, I agree on that. Which is why I listed the ones I listed.

>>133812211
Well duh? They're just stuff random people post online.

>>133812231
Reminds me of one Japanese writer that talks about potatoes for pages upon pages.

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>>133812223
GW tommorow, hope you have your grinding cap ready.

>>133812158
Aselia isn't all ages.

Belgariad anime when?

>>133812332
It is if you ask JAST.

>>133812342
Hopefully never, that story was trash. It was pretty much as close to being a shitty LN story as western fantasy fiction gets.

>>133812252
You sound like a liar. I have read over 200 manga, around 10 LNs and watched over 100 anime shows. And can´t stand fucking pure harem shows anymore. You want something more, not something less.

>>133812302
>magnum opus
Yu-No has porn. But good choice.

>>133811670
I can very well follow books, but surely more moe would help. Nowadays book are always dealing with the inner conflicts of the obvious author's self insert or some dramatic bullshit; there's nothing like my brain-dead cutesy anime and manga, fuck.

>>133812325
Source needed.

>>133812374
And Shiny Days isn't loli if you ask JAST.
Fuck them.

>>133812388
That's pathetic anon.
I had more LNs read than you in 2006 when nobody even translated them.

>>133812388
You are not him.

>>133812383
That exactly why it should get an anime. It's on par with the medium.

>>133811078

>Here is an actual half decently written and directed show with a variety of characters, themes, concepts and ideas=Probably gets like 10K regular viewers tops on sites like MAL and /a/ and probably mediocre reviews
>Here's some light novel tripe with tropey high school girls, fanservice out the ass, droning dialogue and no sense of direction=pretty much guaranteed 50-100K+ regular viewers on sites like MAL and /a/ as well as rave reviews.

Also works. The real problem with anime right now is it's just catered to and pulled in the lowest common denominator kind of fan just looking for a good fap for so long in the last decade or so that's it's basically gotten to the point where it's only pulling in fetishists and idiots now and the only people that would watch anything else are the people that got into anime before shitty Light novel adaptations became popular and prolific. You can really see it in how your average thread on any given anime forum reads now and what people bother to talk about.

What's worse is now the medium has probably fucked itself into a corner where it probably has nowhere to go if the LN adaptation scene ever does just completely bottom out since people that would be interested in other stuff will have long since written off anime and people that watch LN shit pretty much just watch that exclusively. IMO that's what some of the older anime creators have been trying to warn people about when they say anime can't just be all about cute girls and wish fulfillment. At this point the only one that really seems to be trying to dig themselves out of this whole mostly and successfully so is Bandai who was smart enough to just largely ignore the LN Boom give or take a few Sunrise Studio 8 adaptations this entire time and just continue to go with what had always worked for them in all around multimedia projects and franchises that try to appeal to more than just one or two fringe demographic makeups.

Is Nasu a good writer?

>>133812459
I'm tryin to read books here not your audiobiography, dude

>>133812388
>200 manga, around 10 LNs and watched over 100 anime shows.
You should hide your powerlevel. Too low

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>>133812461
>nasu
>not a hack

>>133812388
The only thing I won't read is shojosmut, I'm pretty openminded.
Reading over 1000 manga in 15 years is not all that particularly hard.

>>133812461
All writers are hacks.

>>133812272
He's one of a kind

>>133812461
Not really, but he has his moments.
F/SN wasn't one.

>>133812459
Entertainment and money are all that matter.

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>this whole thread

>>133812435
You can only take so much bad read before you give up on the media. Latest one was Overlord, got tricked with the classic "But the LN is much better", it was a bore, exposition upon exposition on the first chapter, and turned out to be another power fantasy everyone is sucking MC´s dick(bone).

This thread should go talk to the Subete thread, it'd be entertaining.

>>133812592
Overlord is dung, dropped it on the second volume way before the anime was even announced.
You should know better than to listen to the crossboarders dwelling in those threads.

>>133812461
>Vampire turned out to be the earth itself
He is a pretty shitty writer. But chuuni faggots will gobble it up since he was smart enough to hire someone that draws attractive girls.

>>133812592
>novel is literally called Overlord
>features a goddamned D&D 3.x lich and all the bullshit that that entails as the protagonist
>he somehow doesn't think that it's going to be a powerfantasy
You are the idiot here.

>>133812644
Subete is the proof "real books" can be worst than LN.

>>133812131
Hello World

>>133812683
>Takeuchi
>drawing attractive girls
>being a good artist at all

>>133812688
Caster edition is also shit.

>>133812672
A lot of anons got lured into it with the latest anime, most dropped it, some have it as their first LN and is worshipping the fuck out of it with their daily General even though they have no content to talk about.

>>133811859

Honestly despite what people tell me I barely see how the average big name VN adaptation is any better than the average big name LN adaptation. They share a lot of the same tendencies towards the stupid and pointless and largely just rely on fanservice and core fanboy audiences. It's like every time one gets adapted the original fanbase gets so up it's own asses with how great they think the source is and what a treat the secondary plebs are in for and thus so down peoples throats about them with the result usually being so middling that they end up making pretty much no new fans. Really LN/VN sourcefags and overly ambitious producers need to learn when to shut the hell up once in a while and let the adaptation do the talking, but IMO they don't want to do that because they know the result would be disastrous as people watch these things and make up their own minds which would probably lead to the conclusion that they're mediocre shit at best.

It's a vicious cycle with no end in site cause studios can't figure out much of anything else to do these days though it seems like within a few more years adaptations of cell phone games might supersede adaptations of Light and Visual novels with zealot like cult followings.

>>133812592
>read Overlord
>don't expect a power fantasy
Are an idiot?
But yes, it's pretty bad, and it gets worst.

>>133812100
Vonnegut Jr's? Yes, it's a must read. That said, most people read it when they're 13.

>>133812038
That's the point of the genre, fuckass.

Why read mystery if every book is apparently a suckup to Doyle?

If you haven't read War and Peace and The Brother Karamazov then get the fuck out of here.

>>133812688
>Called Overlord
>Does nothing evil at all
>Is literally named Overlord
Don´t be a baka.

>>133811190
Kill yourself.

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>>133812488

>>133812291 here, I barely made it past the green text before drifting off. Post words manga

>>133812824
is this going to be the new /a/ meme?

>>133811670
And people say /lit/ is bad.

Holy fuck. This is who I argue with?

>>133812868
It's already a /lit/ meme.

>>133812585

No just money really, anime producers don't give a shit if the average person find their shows entertaining or not as long as the necessary 3,000 otaku buy their Blu-Rays at their ridiculously marked up prices. Most anime are made solely with hitting that magic break even number in mind, not growing franchises or bringing in new viewers and demographics. Occasionally you get the odd anime original like Love Live that just crushes it and actually has it's works sell progressively more as time goes on but that's fast becoming like a once every couple of years kind of thing.

>>133812824
I read it all in school.

>>133812898
Oh, I guess that explains it then.

>>133812824
>reading commie shit
I bet those Alah's that nuked paris read red books

George R.R Martin is the Urobutcher of the west.

>>133812868
No, it takes a lot of dedication and patience and samefagging at the right timing to make a meme, I'm not as young as I used to be and unfortunately I got a job.

>>133812799
Yeah the one with the Ice 9.
And well at 13 I was more into children fantasy, mangos and French comics.

Why read "real books" when you can just read something with good art? What's the appeal of reading tomes with nothing but fucking words in them? Why the fuck are /lit/ so elitist?

>>133812828
>literally orders the extermination of a whole lizardman population so Icebug can learn to think
>murders a bunch of tomb raiders for daring to set foot in his tomb
>nukes 70k people and gets giddy over it
>bullies every country in the neigbourhood into listening to him

>>133813002
Shitty version of.

>>133812884
>Index general
>Type-moon garbage general
>Bleach general
>Overlord general
>SAO general
>Mushou Tensei general
Where the fuck do you think you are champ?

>>133812901
Commie school I presume.
Did they also teach you how to use a AK-47 to destroy our freedom?

>>133812899
>doesn't understand the business model
>thinks Love Live is anime original
This is the kind of person who makes sweeping statements about the "current state of the industry".

Ace Combat games have better writing than 98% of 'real books' and LNs

>>133812899
Is weird how Idolmaster failed to take the number one spot despite being the first big 2D Idol franchise.

>>133812770
People complain about adaptations being shit all the fucking time, it's not a LN/VN thing.
And most of the time, guess what? They're right. It's also harder to adapt than manga for obvious reason.
Miracles like Baccano with peerless adaptation and direction are hard to come through.

>>133813015
Oh, I can't remember quite when I read it, but it's part of the deluge of books you get as a young teenager. Along with catcher in the rye, 1984, brave new world, atlas shrugged, and so on.

But reiterating my first response, it's worth reading. I have re-read it a number of times, at different ages, and I always enjoy it.

>>133813053
Yep.

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>>133813023
>What's the appeal of reading tomes with nothing but fucking words in them
Is this b8?

>>133813094
I bet you think Tom Clancy novels are good.

>>133812824
Only if you shorten them to 20 words or less.

>>133812901
Don't we all?

>>133813130
Don't you have a board to stroke your ego in?

>>133812898
I find this funny. /lit/ praises Russian classics writing , meanwhile in my country a lot of people criticize their writing.

>>133813034
>All in a game world
>Readers are suppose to agree with his decision
>His enemies are obnoxious, annoying and made for people to hate
>Overlordfaggots
Try again.

>>133813108
They fucked up hard with Xenoglossia.

>if it isn't 10deep20you it's shit

>>133813034
>kill loli
Too far for me honestly.

>>133810679
There is no need, it will turn to shit halfway.

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>>133813002
Urobutcher at least produces new content every now and then. The fat fucking faggot spends 5+ years writing a single book even though every single one since the third has been trash and spends most of his spare time blogging about moving, football and the SF/fantasy literature's gamergate equivalent.

>>133813184
Nah, they fucked up by having way too many characters. Popular ones get almost no screentime or have to share it, and no they are no more than archetypes, and never goes beyond it.

>>133813132
You wouldn't get me to read some Veteran Murikkan's books if they were literally shitting gold.

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>>133810288
>>133810193
>people read posts about people reading anime stories instead of actual books
>>>/out/

>>133813181
>All in a game world
No, how many fucking times does this need to be said.

>>133813002
>tfw no one shitpost about ASOIAF in 2000
Haters are cancer

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>>133813167
What?
I mean seriously, how fucking rerarded are you if you don't know why people like books?

>>133813202
Arche was a literally who and died a literally who, a cute face doesn't mean shit when there's billion of others that weren't dead men walking from the moment they showed up.

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>>133812851
Anyone else stop actually reading manga and just click through the pictures to get the story?
>implying this is /a/ and not a /lit/ thread

>>133813319
books are boring anime is boring too imho the only enjoyment in my life is sex and football

>>133813184
>>133813255
They didn't fuck up anything.
Idolm@ster is a very succesful franchise and isn't even an anime one to begin with.
Love Life has been succesfully tailored for one branch of otaku, and even then, its success is an anomaly.
All in all, Bamco doesn't give a fuck because they own both.

>>133813319
retarded*

>>133813126
Thanks.
I'm willing to read "real" english books, but sometimes the gap between internet/anime/games and litterature english is so big that I can't read a single page without having to search for 2 or 3 words in a dictionary.
I hope it doesn't discourage me because it looks really interesting.

>>133813034
>vol 7
>BAAAAW MY FRIENDS

Books are for fags.

>>133813271
Jintai translation when?

>>133813371
It's very successful, but Xenoglossia was a fucking terrible idea and they should have realized this.

>>133813347
I "read" my weekly One Piece by reading short sentences and looking at the images.

>>133813319
They like them because they can show them off to all their buddies and make obscure references in conversation to look smart.

>>133813377
Are you ESL? Because otherwise you're an idiot.

>>133813381
I thought that we established that from book one, nigger has anxiety issues as does every other thing in the tomb of horrors. Angry manchild Ainz was fun.

>>133813420
Never.

LN's, VN's, books, anime, manga.

They're all self-masturbation, their only purpose is to sink time.

>>133813377
Is English your first language? I had this problem when I started reading French (and even more so during Latin lessons, but fuck school) - overcoming it was a 2-step process, first you develop the vocabulary, which takes a while, and then you gain the context to understand the nuance in phrases, references etc. All worth doing though.

>>133813448
I do this a lot when marathoning a manga that came out in volumes because the first chapter of a volume is almost always like 20-30 pages of re-cap.

>>133813426
Maybe, I don't care. Who knows if the market was ready for the idol boom in 2006.
I enjoyed the show alright.

>>133813277
>Plays a virtual reality mmorpg
>System malfunction
>Guy mind is stuck in the game or some shit
>UI, stats screens, cash shop item and general game stuff are still functional
Yeah is a game alright.

>>133813548
Just like posting here.

>>133813548
You're not profound.

>>133813573
>Guy mind is stuck in the game or some shit
He literally gets ported over to fantasy land.

>>133813347
What the fuck is this? When did manga become this boring to read, or is it just this particular one?
>>133813371
>IMfaggots BTFO and mad as fuck

>>133813480
Ainz is unlikable though.
Making the bad guy sort of likable is the first thing to do if you're going to write a story from the evil side.

>>133813654
>Fantasy land have digital UI and convenient stat screens for the MC, the NPCs are clueless dummies
Heh, sure thing bub.

>>133813655
This particular manga is 90% narration by the main character and 100% power fantasy-fanfiction by the author.

I see a lot of these recently and they are all based on web/lightnovels

>>133813655
It reads like a instruction manual, most writers don't really know how to infodump properly and integrate it into the dialogue.
tl;dr Show, don't tell.

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>>133813450
>They like them because they can show them off to all their buddies
As sad as it is, it's probably the main reason why so many people still insist on buying physical books in fucking 2015 when an objectively superior alternative exist and has for many years now.

>>133813733
There are no UIs outside the throne room. The rest of the world doesn't have them.

>>133813749
Jesus hell, first person narration is suppose to be interesting, not written like a log diary by some kid. And I am aware of the recent surge in self masturbation work.

>>133813790
Shut the fuck up you dumb tripshit.

>90 day gap
>a big deal

>>133813779
But showing instead of telling is hard baka senpai. Why do it when you don´t have to? Your audience is kind of dumb anyway.

>>133810424
Both help the Jews?

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>>133810258
>muh "literature"
>muh "genre fiction"

You having a giggle?

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>>133813472
>ESL
Yes I'm French and since English classes are shit (3rd year of Physics and we are learning fucking compound adjectives), I learned all I know through vidya, mangas and even if it seems odd, 4chan.
>>133813555
Well, I think I overcame the "basic" English since I can read/speak/understand common English, but when it comes to a more formal/literary/heavy language I struggle a lot and it doesn't feel smooth.

>>133813790
>Tripfuck confirmed for poorfag and can´t appreciate the feel of holding physical paper, nor the joy of having a collection.
No one is surprised, get the fuck out.

>>133813790
>insist on buying physical books in fucking 2015
Book piracy is awkward and I refuse to pay amazon for glorified .txt files. I love my ereader because it allows me to pirate books but plenty of stuff isn't available

>>133813790
Yeah, I love the object, but I rarely buy books nowadays.
When you don't have any space left on your shelves, you start to really appreciate your e-reader.
You can also put h-manga in them, so you can read in bed and even fap if the book is really boring.

>>133813892
English is also my secondary language, quite easy. I tried to master French as third, but gave up since is time consuming and not a lot of people speak it.

>>133813960
I wish their was a fast way to put manga on my kobo ereader. Polite sage because unsure if off topic

>people actively dislike physical books
Fuck this gay earth

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>>133813805
I actually like some of them, even though they are so shitty. There are a few manhwa like this too

Pic related, my favorite one right now. So far pretty much 0 story or progression but I still want to see what happens for some reason.

>>133813892
Just keep going. Start with American literature, and international English literature. The British classics are somewhat harder, as they're mired in contextual references and odd anachronisms.

>>133813805

It's the primary reason I can't really do light novel series anymore. Its funny how its kind of like Hollywood where the smallest talents that should be considered lowest on the totem pole have the most monstrously inflated egos and it shows in what they write about and how they right it. Shit like Monogatari series, Oreimo, Saekano, Gate, Mekaku and the like getting popular is the worst thing to happen to anime this decade. It seems like Visual Novel writers like Maeda are content to join in the masturbatory writing and empty promises too judging by recent trends and comments. The industry let these people in and tried to crown them kings of writing and now we all have to suffer the consequences of an empowered otaku community and writers who can't and/or won't listen to criticism and only care about pleasing their dwindling regimen of yes men fanboys.

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Waiting for this shit.... still waiting. .. LN pics when.

>>133814042
>Kindle and Tablet to read
>Physical to expose on a shelf so they always look clean and new

>>133814082
Nice tiddies

So what's up with the way Nips treat their MC's? They are always making them feel like complete losers.
Is this engrained in the japanese culture?

>>133814089
>wanting unread books on your shelf
Might as well have fake books at that point.

>>133814082
Chapter 1 just got posted, check novelupdates.

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>>133814053
I like this and the spider one, both are pretty comfy.

>>133814188
Its a self insert for you anon, so you feel better when they win in the end.

>>133814139
It's all his... he pecks on them every night in bed.

>>133814089
Nah, it just feels more comfier to sit in a nice chair, dim the lights enough to read the text, drink one site and snacks on the other reading a book.
Tablet's hurt my eyes after a while, and the shit on them is distracting.

58 IPs for over 300 posts? Goddamn

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>>133814188
You tell me.

Fantasy is shit and you should feel bad if you like it

>>133814214
Oh ok wait... is the tl gonna be slow?

>>133814089
>no more dog ears
>no cold sweat because a "friend" borrowed it
My life has improved when I let go of my physical book autism.

>>133814282
Why do people even take in count the poster/post ratio? This is a site for discussion, it's obvious people are going to make more than post if they are discussing.

>>133814263
>Tablet
That's your problem. Get a proper e-reader, it's visually indistinguishable from printed paper.

>>133814018
It's said that 3DPD love guy speaking French, but as everyone here speaks it I can't say if it really works.
>>133814067
I tried the great Gatsby but damn it's hard as fuck.

>>133814323
>lending your property to others
You're just a mere faggot, I wouldn't let my family near my stuff, much less someone else.
Make a better excuse, stop being a bitch.

>>133814374
Great Gatsby was pretty good as a movie. I read the book entirely and realized what good depth the story had.

>>133814404
Sorry I'm not autistic.

So in the end, is there any good no fantasy/sci-fi trash western books?

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>>133814360
Why do you think? People others opinions in the discussion too. If you just want to hear and see a one-sided story than go to the most echo-chamber-friendly-site on the internet: Reddit.

>>133814497
What?

>>133814067
>they're mired in contextual references and odd anachronisms.
Trainspotting was the most difficult book I ever read because everything is phonetically spelt Scottish slang

>>133814470
I would read diary of the wimpy kid. We all know it is the greatest book in the west... yup. Life is tough dude. Keep looking.

>>133814470
No, just read Sigsawa's stuff and you've already read better than 99% of literature east or west.

>>133814470
No. Steinbeck and Ellis are awful writers.

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>>133814497
>People others opinions in the discussion too.

>>133814470
Just read whatever, you read for entertainment not work.

>>133814213
But you can go, take one, open it and smell the new paper with the immaculate whiteness dazzling your eyes.
>>133814263
Seriously, a Kindle for books and a 7 inches Tablet with MangaRock for manga scans is the way to go.
>>133814323
>Lending your books
Seriously ? I can't trust anyone when it comes to my personnal stuff.
>>133814448
I never saw either movies so I wanted to get a grasp of the original story, but I guess I'll watch it.

>>133814559
No one wants same-fagging or a small group of people spreading their opinions the whole time,

>>133814289
>Being 20+
>Still goes to the playground to take the swings for a tour in the middle of the night
W-what´s wrong with having some inner child fun?

>>133814569
We also have that.

>>133814374
When you're feeling confident try Ulysses. That's your end goal.

>>133814633
>>133814559
I tired okay. Me promise no ESL here.

>>133814685
Not him, but what the fuck are you talking about?

>>133814797
(Me) Yes that's right.

>>133814797
/a/ lives in constant fear of new generals starting. Which is fair enough really

>>133814717
Nothing. As long you're not hurting anyone feel free to do whatever.

>>133814725
>End goal
How is it my end goal ? Is it written in a really formal and old english ? Is it a major piece of litterature ?

>>133814874
No, it's not written in formal English. It is a seminal piece of modernist literature. Joyce employs a vast lexicon, and it's generally considered a difficult read.

>>133814319
TL said they'll try to do a few chapters a week.

>>133814874
>Is it a major piece of litterature ?
Not knowing What is widely considered to be the most important piece of Literature of the 20th century and putting a space before a question mark. Why are you posting in this thread

>>133814963
Soshite shoujo did that and look where it is now... why...

>>133815034
Go be elitist about things no one gives a fuck about elsewhere, fuck Joyce, no one should be forced to read his crap.

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>>133810873
Oratoria translation when? It's illustrated by Haimura . Can't it interest him?

What's the Twilight of LNs?

>>133815089
Yahari.

>>133815071
That story doesn't have that much going for it other than the MC being adorable though. I can see why the translator might have started getting bored / losing focus on it.

>>133814943
Oh ok, thanks I take note, maybe I'll read it someday.
>>133815034
>not reading the whole conversation
I don't know shit about International/English litterature since everyone spammed me with Hugo, Zola, Stendhal, Balzac and their friends, so people here are kind of educating me on things I have to read.
And for the space before the question mark, if you look closely, every French types like that, it's a grammar rule.
>Toujours un espace avant et après le point-virgule, le point d'interrogation, le point d'exclamation et les deux points.

>>133811942
Is this supposed to make fun of Key? Cause I only see some stupid person making stupid claims that have basically nothing to do with Clannad or other Key VNs.

>>133815323
But you aren't in a french site, so refrain typing like a retard.

>>133815323
>Stendhal
All my hate.

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>>133815323
What about Proust?
Did you enjoy In Search of Lost Time?

Does the pdf generator on BT no longer work?

>>133815323
>it's a grammar rule.
and in my native language mh is pronounced as v. That doesn't really have any reflection on how I post on an English using website though

>>133815409
>>133815505
>Throwing a tantrum over a mere space
Oui monsieur.
>>133815436
>The red and the black
Fuck this shit.
>>133815483
I only read some portions of it at school and even if the sentences were long as hell, I still found it relaxing, especially the madeleine part.

>>133814082
This one is pretty interesting.
>Family dies in a truck accident.
>Pet bird dies a year later.
>Pet bird reincarnated in a fantasy world as a girl
>Summons MC from Earth to be with her
>They eventually get married and all that
Kind of nice to have a summoned to a fantasy world story with a monogamous relationship that progresses.

>>133815661
Spaces before a question mark reminds me of stupid people on other sites. It's a PTSD kinda thing.

>>133815750
So he waifud a pigeon?

Dammit Japan

>>133815864
Hey, Tesla waifud a bird too, if a Slav inventor can then so can he.

>>133815864
Well she was a white cockatiel not a pigeon.

>>133815864
It's not even Japan, Tesla waifu'd a pigeon too.