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Is Hunter x Hunter 2011 targeted towards 12 years old stupid

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Is Hunter x Hunter 2011 targeted towards 12 years old stupid kids ?

I always was a fan of the manga i read when i was younger and started watching the 1999 anime a couple weeks ago. It was amazing, i didn't mind the change from the manga because the pacing was almost perfect. There was no wasted seconds on those 62 episodes. The ending was a bit anti-climactic though. I watch the OVA who gave me a more satsifying ending but it was a bit weaker than the original show (i think the director was a big part of the awesomeness of the 1999 anime). and i wish i stopped there.

So i started watching the 2011 reboot from ant chimera arc, at first i was troubled by the voices i don't like Killua's new voice(i don't want to be mean but seriously sometimes it's like two people dubbing the kid) and Gon is a bit weird because i really liked what it was in the 1999 anime. But this are really a minor point because i was expecting the actor do be different. The things i dislike are all those flashback and the other usual tropes of shonen anime that was avoided in the 1999 version.

The worst, and by Far, is this fucking narrator. Seriously ? Who thought it would be a good idea to tell instead of showing ? The 1999 was gold because he didn't tell much and was always showing stuff. And that's poor writing and screening because it's showing me a forest a telling me a story instead of showing me the story. But ok, i can get over that i love the characters and the story.

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>>133679883
But now i'm up tu 111 and i can't take it anymore i won't watch the rest. It's SHIT. The narrator is taking up to 70% of every episode and the moment when they start the attack (for those who knows) it's a 2 seconds that takes 1.5 episodes. It's obnoxious as fuck, the narrator is explaining every techniques, every trail of thoughts, every things that's going on, that lead a character to think how he think during his life, stating the obvious, stating what just happened in the previous scene.... Even a 12 years old kids don't need that much details seriously.

I just can't keep watching this shit, the fights will last for episodes and there will be no tension because the narrator is telling me everything while it's happening. like seriously no spoil but there's invisible people, you can see it (because there is still image at this point of the show) but the narrator then tells you "they're invisible" it's stupid as fuck and it's killing everything ! It's supposed to be near the end of the arc a big climactic moment but it's filled by an obnoxious voice explaining everything for the stupid 12 years old that we are.
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>>133679883
>99fags
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>>133679971
I guess i am a 99 faggot now, i find it sad because i really wanted to like the reboot. I guess i'll just go for the manga now.
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>>133680207
>I guess i'll just go for the manga now.
Narrator is also in the manga, maybe even more than in the anime. Have fun.
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>>133679883
>dubbing
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>>133680290
Well shit..
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>not reading the manga
The narrator just doesn't work in the anime.
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>>133680432
Yep. Might feel slow to you but episode 111 actually covers 3 chapters of the manga.
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>>133679883
dropped this shit at chapter 30 its so fucking boring and seems that the chimera ant arc its not worth to watch.
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>>133680778
Chimera is worth it. I don't love this show like some of the faggots on here but the chimera ending was beautiful.

Also the York New OVA was the best anime.
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>>133680483
>>133680605
At list with the manga if it's really obnoxious i can turn the pages i'm not forced to read every explanations.
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>>133681649
You're not forced to read the subs or watch every single second of each episode either.
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>>133679883
99fags are literally worse than 2011fags.
Animefags are cancer. Please, kill yourself
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>>133681909
>99fags are literally worse than 2011fags.
Not even close.
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>>133679883
Back to One Piece.
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>>133679883
I don't know what to tell you, I love the 2011 series. It's so far been the only long running shonen I've been able to sit through and I've tried them all minus One Piece.

Also you seem to be comparing it harshly to the first series. I don't understand why people cape so hard for it, both have their goods and bads.
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>>133680778
>>133680945
I love HxH but the Chimera arc drags way too fucking long. The villains were some of the most obnoxious I've ever seen.

It's definitely worth it for the handful of impressive moments, but damn does it overstay it's welcome.
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>>133682105
I wouldn't have a problem with the Ant arc if it were significantly shorter and didn't bring the great hiatus arc.

It stalled more interesting plot lines, damn it.
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After reading this there was only one word in my mind. A u t i s m
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>>133682105
You could say it goes on for too long but it doesn't drag at all. There are several settings in the same arc and it almost never stagnates, even during the invasion the fights are short as fuck and new things are always happening. Also it doesn't have villains.
I hate this shit adaptation and the stupid memes it brought because they didn't know how to do CA.
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I absolutely love how people shit on Chimera Ants because of the narrator. It's like people internalized the rule of 'show don't tell' so much that they won't even think about narration and exposition before labeling it as shit writing. Sure everyone loves subtlety but the narrator during the Chimera Ant arc served an important function. Those key moments that people like to cream themselves about were so memorable largely because they handled the narrative precisely this way.
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>>133682314
>shit adaptation
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>>133682343
>literally everything about Kite
>episodes 100 to 110 slow as balls
>randomly changed some chapter orders in the middle of the invasion
Off the top of my head.
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>>133682422
You don't actually think 2011 is a bad adaptation, you're just trying to excuse CA's shit pacing by saying "the manga did it better!"

Thanks for proving my point with those greentexts.
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>>133682314
True, poor wording on my part.

Still
>99fags
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>>133682466
>explain why it's shit
>you're just excusing the pacing!
>pacing in a manga
Here's some more greentext. You can stop being retarded now.
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>>133682314
They didn't really know how to do any arc.
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>>133680337

thats the correct usage of the term
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Of course it's for 12 year old kids, it's a shonen series, it's LITERALLY FOR KIDS.
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>>133682547
Yeah, the pacing is shit in the manga too.
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>>133682330
If you cut literaly every narrator's words in 116 you'll have a much better scene and a much powerfull moment.
And it's just one of all those episode.
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>>133682569
Except for the Hunter Exam, Heavens Arena, Yorkshin, Greed Island, Chimera Ant, and the Election.
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>>133682661
No you won't. If you're going to target an episode, don't target the one standing as one of the best anime episodes ever produced.
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>>133682674
Sorry, your joke wasn't funny.
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>>133682661
>Pitou telling the truth
>Killua recognizing Pitou's gesture
>Gon seeing Kite instead of Komugi
The narrator made all of those scenes better.
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>muh mature shounen anime for mature people like myself

Are 99fags the most unbearable people in the world?
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>>133682674
Heavens Arena and Election are the only ones i'd say they did good.
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>>133682749
99 isn't mature, it's just poorly written melodrama with cliche characters.
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>>133682714
>the one standing as one of the best anime episodes ever produced.
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>>133679883
>The things i dislike are all those flashback and the other usual tropes of shonen anime that was avoided in the 1999 version.
Nigger what? Off the top of my head, Leorio and Paku had flashbacks. There is literally one flashback in CA and it's just as minor as those two. You're being stupid.
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>>133682796
That's exactly my point.
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>>133682547
>manga doesn't have pacing
Is this how deluded hxhfags are?
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>>133682714
>>133682746
No but seriously, the episode is standing out of the others because mid-episode the narrator shuts up.
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Another brilliant HxH thread
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Leaving everything else aside, I don't understand how anyone can negatively compare the voice acting in 2011 to the voice acting in 1999.

The voice acting in 1999 is legitimately bad. Most of the characters sound entirely wooden; Killua's is especially bad in that she sounds like has a cold all the time. The voice actors of 1999 seem like cool people and they clearly had a lot of fun with the series, in the drama CDs and musicals and such, but they're not actually that good.
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>>133682631
Do you know what pacing is? There's a constant flow of new info and situations. There's nothing slow about the way it's written.
On the other hand i remember 2011 spending like 5 minutes explaining the fucking elevator.
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>>133682910
The episode wouldn't be powerful without the narrator's interjections in the previous episode and throughout the whole arc building up Pitou and Gon.

Back to your daily Naruto threads.
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>>133682746
>Pitou telling the truth then the narrator say "pitou was telling the truth"
>Killua recognizing Pitou's gesture then the narrator say "Killua reconized Pitou's gesture"
>Gon seeing Kite instead of Komugi then the narrator say "he was seeing Kite in place of Komugi"

The narrator just kills everything, you're not stupid anon you don't need someone to tell you what's going on.
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>>133682944
The exact same argument is used to defend the anime's pacing. They're both shit.
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>>133682910
And you know what makes it stand out? It's not the fact that the narrator is bad, it's the way they used the silence. It's just well handled storytelling tool, and if anything only more evidence of the narrator's positive contribution.
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Can I ask /a/ a question? What is it with stupid dipshits addressing the entire board about their opinion on a show? It is like they are screaming 'look at me, give me attention because I can't get it offline!" I mean it is one thing to not like a show but to insult the fanbase is faggotry.

I simply can't comprehend how sad the OP must be to stoop to this low for a discussion. Maybe my theory that most anons are losers is actually true. Christ.
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>>133683018
>Maybe my theory that most anons are losers is actually true
How new are you?
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>re-watching Yu Yu Hakusho
>notice all the similarities with HxH
It's interesting see how Togashi fleshed out ideas he started with YYH. Like the Genkai tournament, it's essentially the Hunter Exam.
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>>133682976
>Pitou telling the truth then the narrator say "pitou was telling the truth"
We had no way of knowing if that actually was the truth or not.
>Killua recognizing Pitou's gesture then the narrator say "Killua reconized Pitou's gesture"
Same as above, all he did is look troubled.
>Gon seeing Kite instead of Komugi then the narrator say "he was seeing Kite in place of Komugi"
Happened the other way around, and the narrator was putting the emphasis on how it was the only thing in Gon's mind.

You're literally retarded.
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>>133682949
I'm sorry but you're totally wrong. If you need a narrator to build up Pitou and Gon that's just poor writing. And i can agree that sometimes it can help explaining the obscur stuff (even though i prefer not) when it's obnoxious like in the previous episodes it just doesn't work.
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>>133682939
>Most of the characters sound entirely wooden
2011 had the opposite problem for me. Voices were too irritating and hammy.
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>>133683049
>needs someone to tell him what to think
>believe is not the one who's retarded
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>>133679883
Yes the the show is targeted towards kids. The only difference is the kids in 2011 are far more stupid than the kids in the late 90s and the turn of the 21st century
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>>133683053
>If you need a narrator to build up Pitou and Gon that's just poor writing.
All i remember the narrator doing to build it up was saying "Gon was raring to fight" at the end of episode 115.
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>>133683053
I must say that you've made a pariah of yourself in this club. What is instantly evident to us (the mastery of Togashi's HxH) isn't something you grasp. It's an exercise on futility to educate on the whys and wherefores of storytelling. Suffice it to say you have proven yourself a dunce among gentlemen. I consider my point carried and Chimera Ant again redeemed.
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>>133683119
>le wrong generation
>back in MY day
Fuck off
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>>133683180
Are you the same anon that tried to force the CA copypasta a few months ago? You did the same thing in the thread about Meruem.
You're really sad.
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>>133683180
kill yourself
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>>133683094
It's only giving you extra information on characters, not telling you what to think.
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>>133682903
Please tell me what you think pacing means.
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>>133683228
What I'm saying is Chimera Ant is not a journey about war. It is a story about being human. And what it means to be human. And according to Togashi, this means being in touch with your environment and world. And I agree with him.

Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us who have done the requisite study to understand Chimera Ant.
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>>133679883
>I always was a fan of the manga
>complains about the narrator in the chimera ant arc like it was an anime-only addition.

huh?
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OP is arguing for the sake of arguing. He can't even troll properly by constantly changing his stance on the show.
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>>133683362
the narration in the manga never disrupted the flow of the events
what works in one medium doesn't work in another
you know this
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>>133683228
if you can't comprehend how deep and elegant is chimera ant you should just fuck off to >>133683413 and keep discussing your naruto shit instead of coming here just to say a line of a meaningless effort to take down an entire fanbase that are not retards, like you are.
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>>133683433
>narration doesn't work in anime

lmao
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>>133683433
This, when doing an adaptation you shouldn't try to do the same thing but instead do the best thing.
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>>133683488
It's a manga adaptation dumbass. 1:1 works because they're both visual mediums.
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>>133683342
>>133683440
But i love the CA arc. This is blatant shitposting to try and make people who enjoy it seem pretentious.
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>>133683531
Do you think the same about LN or VN adaptations? They're both visual mediums so1:1 should work.
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>>133683590
>novels are visual mediums

TOP
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>>133683590
>LN
>visual medium

Anon.
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>>133683433
tn the manga it was clearly an stylistic choice from togashi and it had to be adapted into the anime. It would've been fine to omit it if the manga always had narration but Togashi chose to use it only for the palace invasion arc.

I have to say I didn't like it on both the anime and manga, but the anime team made the correct decision on keeping it, since it was their aim from the beginning to keep the adaptation as close to the manga as possible
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>>133683759
>since it was their aim from the beginning to keep the adaptation as close to the manga as possible
If that was their aim then they fucked up pretty quickly.
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>there are people who experienced this scene for the first time without voice acting and animation

I feel sorry for mangafags.
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>>133683629
>VN
>visual novels
>not a visual medium
>>133683725
Disregard that i suck cocks.
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>>133683822
If you want filler you can always watch 99. 2011 truly exceed the original work through comprehensive adapting.
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>>133683759
There's no narrator in the 99's adaptation and it's great without it.
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>>133683882
My sides.
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>>133683857
Have you ever played a VN? The visual aspects are just stock images reused over and over. They still have to describe a scene like any other novel.
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>>133683882
I guess this is the hot new meme.
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>>133679883
>>There was no wasted seconds on those 62 episodes.
>>HxH 1999
Stop wearing these pink-colored glasses, 99 was SLOW.
AS.
FUCK.

That's actually the main reason I dropped the series and just kept reading the manga. In 2002.

The new series may be crappy on some points (The BGM actually), but the pacing is right on for the beginning . And the slow pacing for the Chimera Ants arc was already in the manga.
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>>133683918
99 never adapted any scene that had narration.
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>muh pacing
Dank new buzzword senpaitachi.
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>>133683918
>thinking edgy melodrama is better than Togashi's writing
fuck off.

>>133683962
what. manga hunter exam had narration, go and read it.
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>>133683992
>itachi
fuck off narutards
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>>133683961
>And the slow pacing for the Chimera Ants arc was already in the manga.
They did 120 chapters in 60 episodes. That's really slow considering how a good amount of those chapters was written.
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>>133683846
I actually feel more sorry for you if you need something to be animated in order to experience a scene.
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>>133679883
>show don't tell
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>>133683961
No, 99 is well paced. Being slow doesn't mean the pacing is off.
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>>133684133
>No, CA 2011 is well paced. Being slow doesn't mean the pacing is off.
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>>133684133
no it isn't you nostalgiafag. it was 30% shitty filler.
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>>133683846
I didn't have to listen to a screeching cake in the manga, so it's all good.
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>>133684016
They adapted Togashi's writing through dialogue and visual mean instead of using an obnoxious narrator.
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>>133684169
>>133683923
>>133683857
>>133683857

I love how I can identify each of these posters from using the same reaction images every thread.
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>>133684133
The 5th time we had a slow panning over some scenery with some contemplative version of Kaze no Uta playing in the background, I couldn't do it anymore.

(Even though I recognize that 2011 handled its soundtrack like shit and 99's was WAY more interesting)

The Hunter Exam dragged on like hell. Also hated how even early, they already were padding the story with filler action.
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>>133684016
Simply put it didn't need it, HxH manga needs narration because it is not in motion.

However when you have the ability to show motion you don't need narration anymore because you can just show the scene.

Simply put when it comes to animation unless, the characters can't talk a narrator is unnecessary.
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>>133684190
>They adapted Togashi's writing
no tey didn't. they butchered it.

99: Gon felt victimized and losing his shit in dramatized fashion after being punch by Hisoka.
Manga/2011: Gon sulked in silent for his bruised ego, a much more dignified character.

99: Gon won't lie and cheat (didn't steal Ponzu's badge, thus omitted his /sneaky nature)
Manga/2011: Gon displayed his bargaining skills and sneaky nature by stealing Ponzu's badge.

The latter characterization is one that'd impressed Killua and other people who met Gon and get awestruck by his lack of morality but charismatic nature.

Cliches and derivative plot/characters, inconsistent characterizations, cheap fillers, hammy soap opera-ish angst, cheap abuse of asspulls. A lot of these are what 1999 series adaptation is guilty of.
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>>133684174
It wasn't, and it's not nostalgia i'm OP i just watch 99 last week.
>>133684169
I never said i didn't like CA because it was slow. I actually enjoyed CA so far it made me overlook the changes(VA, direction and narration for the most) between the two adaptation and gave me a fresh start for watching 2011 because i think it's a good arc and i wanted to see more.
It's really the narrator that put me off, when he's more and more interrupting dialogues, fights and the story for explaining more stuff.
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>>133684256
>you need motion to tell stories visually
kek. mangafags contradicting themselves once more.
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>>133683433
>>the narration in the manga never disrupted the flow of the events

>>one chapter every 3 months
>>50% of it its the narration
EL OH EL. Yeah no.
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>>133684301
No they adapted it.

You do realize that there were things that 2011 handle things differently from the manga as well right?

For instance.

Manga/99: Gon is determined but Melancholic about leaving the Island.
2011: Gon is happy about leaving the island.

Manga/99: Gon immediately wants to go find Killua.
2011: Gon forgets about Killua, until Kurapika reminds him.

Manga:The people who Killua murders in the hallway, are polite to him.
2011: They're tryinig to start a fight.

Also Kite.
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>>133684133
Lets be honest, its not. The hunter exam took 30 episodes to finish thats like the half of the show, while yorkshin without the ova is 10-11 episodes...
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>>133684392
>one chapter every 3 months
False. You could at least have looked at the hiatus chart before pretending to know what you're talking about, he always released a bunch of them at once.
Also what you described doesn't change what's happening in the manga.
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Just doing a test here.
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>>133684379
I'm not making a contradiction at all.

Anime is in motion.

Manga is not.

Manga relies on both words and pictures therefore a narrator doesn't hurt it.

Anime relies on motion and sound, therefore a narrator isn't necessary.
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>>133684379
Another test.
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>>133684525
I agree yorkshin was a disapointment when i finished the show. But i hear they decided to end the show because they didn't want to fill the wait for new chapter from the manga. And if you put together yorkshin 99 and the OVA it's actually really well done.
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>>133679883
2011 is superior in every aspect.

The definitive version
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>>133684522
those are minor details that barely change the characterization

99 didn't adapt it. Manga Gon would never do something like the 1999 series did. The 1999 not only writes goody goody things for Gon (more endearing to mainstream audience I'm sure), it affected his mannerism. 1999 overemphasized Gon's wild eye innocent/dumb side, while missing those quite, dignified/manly/sneaky moment, so the 1999 Gon is not well rounded, and that goody goody portrayal contradicts the increasingly selfish and crazy Gon later in the story.

1999 series
Killua started out very emo, cold and distance from Gon (Gon came to say hi first) didn't know the concept of 'friend'. His dark emo expression and shadowed on the face screams 'daaarkk....killer' loudly, obviously.
Manga/2011
Killua is a cheerful boy and appeared normal on the surface from the start, came to say hi to Gon and introduce himself first. No one can tell Killua is not normal at first (Leorio just thought he's just some spoiled brat, underestimating him) and Gon commented on how Killua doesn't look like a killer at all.

1999 series
Killua suffered from guilt of who he is/his family in that stupid filler (that completely ruined the ball game with Netero).
Manga/2011
Killua took pride in his family and especially his dad obviously, and his main rebellion came from not wanting to be told what to do and having no choice of a lifestyle of his own, not because he has some conscience /morality inner conflicts that the 1999 series kept hammering on

1999 series
Killua was tormented by struggles of suppressing his dark, dangerous killer nature as filler added some episodes with the bear and Mito.
Manga/2011
Killua has NO such struggle at all whatsoever. He didn't have problem suppressing his killer nature. Rather, his REAL ongoing struggles came from over self-preservations on the face of danger as taught by Illumi.
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>>133684693
I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but seriously? Do you really think the whole Kite thing "barely changed the characterization"? Not even talking about the rest, but the retarded filler in the first half of episode 85 completely ruined the Pitou scene by raising a thousand of death flags. In the manga it really comes out of nowhere.
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>>133684795
Kaito change is the only bad part of 2011.
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>>133684824
That and incompetent directing.
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>>133679883
Hunter x Hunter itself is targeted toward twelve-year-old kids, you idiot.
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>>133684795
it's a mentor in a shonen manga, if you didn't he was going to die you're probably underage.

>>133684855
kek
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>>133684628
Yorkshin as a whole (tv+ova) is amazing, i was just pointing out how retarded was the pacing in the hunter exam.
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2011 has never been dubbed. Is that why 99fags prefer the less faithful adaption?
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>>133684693
And Gon wouldn't given a shit about Kite if he literally just met him, he would have never forgotten Killua for Ging (it would have been the opposite), and also was more upset about the thought of his father abandoning him than dying.

So yes, 2011 Gon isn't much better than the '99 Gon, and would still do shit that manga Gon would never do.

Manga Killua is an edgelord, who didn't give a shit about anything in the exam, besides Gon. 2011 changed him an innocent kid.
1999 made him emo
neither of them are right.

2011 just has little scenes where they alter shit, that changes your overall view of characters and their personalities.
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>>133684884
Not all mentors in shounen manga die anon.
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>>133685076
If you listen to the 99 dub you will bleed from your ears. One has to be extremely autistic and/or deaf to actually enjoy it. I hope 2011 dub will be like this
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Since Madhouse fucked up, what studio do you think should have adapted HxH?
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>>133685234
None.

It didn't need another adaptation. Especially since there's no end in sight.
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>>133685136
2011 didn't change any of the characters but the gon/kite relationship. which isn't that important his anger at pitou, which is because of his absolutist morality being broken apart.
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>>133685234
>Madhouse fucked up
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>>133684574
Dude, I got the scans when these were publishing, 3 months is an exageration, but Togashi's shitty planning really hurt the Chimera Ants arc a lot, just with the slow pacing + slow release.
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>>133684522
>The people who Killua murders in the hallway, are polite to him.
What, no.
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>>133685362
>thinking 2011 was a good adaptation
>reddit filename
Everytime.
>>133685386
>shitty planning
Really? His planning was really good. Everything fit into the themes and fell into place, even events from early in the arc coming into play later.
What hurt CA was the 8+ years it took to finish it.
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>>133685136
>Gon wouldn't given a shit about Kite if he literally just met him

Yeah, he would. That's Gon's character.

>Manga Killua is an edgelord, who didn't give a shit about anything in the exam, besides Gon. 2011 changed him an innocent kid.

Now you're just making stuff up.

>2011 just has little scenes where they alter shit

Give examples.
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>>133685511
When talking about a LATE AS FUCK mangaka, the planning I'm talking about is his drawing planning, you autist.
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>>133685511
>>thinking 2011 was a good adaptation
It was. Please read through the thread. There are a number of intelligent responses that cripple your amateur analysis of Madhouse's work.
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>>133685136
>Manga Killua is an edgelord
U wot m8

He's more playful than anything.
His edge parts come out when he needs to win quick, like when he ripped that guy's heart out.
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When will there be a good HxH thread again?
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>>133685511
>manga fanboy dislikes 2011
everytime. it will ALWAYS be better than the manga, especially in CA. you can keep exuding butthurt because they removed one little scene between gon and kite.
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>>133685684
when 11fags kill themselves
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>this thread

mangafags BTFO
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>>133685602
I read through the thread. 2011 had shit pacing, altered the source material in some stupid ways that don't make sense and only make it worse, didn't know how to use the soundtrack and had shit animation most of the time.
>>133685702
>it will ALWAYS be better than the manga, especially in CA
It never once was even as good as the manga, except maybe for a handful of scenes. They also butchered CA.
>>133685806
>this image
This is what 2011 cancer looks like.
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>>133685806

>9gag
>ifunny
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>>133685921
>2011 had shit pacing
oh, you're one of those people. stopped reading.
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>>133685955
The Zoldyck arc was 4 chapters long and it took just as many episodes. You can stay delusional if you want.
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>>133686063
Just stop responding. Let the thread die.
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>>133686063
>expanding on a tiny arc is a bad thing
Stay delusional mangafag.
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>>133686115
>thinking dragging scenes that took one page into 10 minutes of animated content is a good thing
>calling anyone delusional
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>>133686168
>it's different so it's bad
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>>133682330
>It's like people internalized the rule of 'show don't tell' so much that they won't even think about narration and exposition before labeling it as shit writing.
Man, this.

I'm really sick of morons who just parrot that rule because it's the first and only thing they ever bothered to learn about writing. They don't even bother to think about what they're saying, which is essentially 'words are bad'. They are not, they serve an important function, and they only become a problem when they REPLACE the visual storytelling rather than enhance or supplement it- which is not the case with the CA arc at all. It's a stylistic choice, but also necessary because there's just so much going on internally for so many characters.

And yes, the narrator is annoying, but literally only in the anime. Text boxes are extremely natural in a manga and add some nice impact without forcing cheesy, misplaced dialogue out of the characters.
>>
2011 is better
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>>133686694

this desu senpai
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>>133685684
We need to ban the daily generals and hope that Togashi stays in hiatus for another year.
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>>133686405
Sometimes I forget that the Ant arc isn't actually mediocre, only the adaptation is.
>>
That's not even what show don't tell means. It's about not just saying "this happened" but rather actually saying how it all happened. It's about making your reader more involved in the story by not just aving them passively suck up some info from a person saying something, but rather from feeliung lkike they were there as a part of the action from the active and engaging story.Has nothing to do with the presence of narration, but rather with the lack of important parts of your story being told in detail.
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>>133686833
>daily
They're more like weekly. Or maybe i just don't pay attention to HxH threads.
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>this thread
I'm sincerely at a loss for words at how cancerous this fanbase has become.
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>>133686926
It's not even really Madhouse's fault, they can't cut all the narration out but there's no real way to make it work well. The whole palace invasion just isn't suitable for animation, it's intentionally slowed down so when you're watching it in 'real time' rather than being able to quickly read a page, you really feel it.
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My clan died in a raid four years ago. They're dead and gone. They're favorite thing was their eyes. I'm gonna collect their eyes.

You don't have be competent to be a Hunter. Leorio is a Hunter.
My other best friend is dying again. He's back in the hospital for his sixteenth time. Good luck with that one. Sick of the bullshit. Sick of all this shit. I don't go out anymore, cause I hate every motherfucker, I don't care what they're up to. Four years I wasted, sippin on drinks at the bar, chit-chatting with fucking nobodies. Now I stay at home, like a fucking hermit. I'm not gonna take any shit from anyone.

I know what's going on. I got set up. I got jumped. Thank god Killua wasn't there to watch me get my fucking ass kicked. He would have wound up with a bleeding anus and prolly become someone's fuccboi. He has a big asshole.

I live for this shit. I love it. Bring it the fuck on.

Payback's a bitch motherfu
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>>133687382
Do you have autism?
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What if hunterxhunter came back as a light novel. Would you read it?
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>>133687382
Reminder this is the kind of shitposting 2011 brought us
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>>133687600
>2011
>Posts a picture of the 99 version.

99fags getting desperate.
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>>133687599
If Togashi wrote it, sure.
>>
>>133687599
If Togashi wrote it and drew the art for the covers.
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>>133687912
>pretending to be 99fags so they have even more of an excuse to shit up the thread
2011fags everyone.
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>>133687912
>>133688054
it's probably the same dumb pikafag who was already caught roleplaying
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>>133688293
>caught roleplaying
What?
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>>133688293
Doubt it, disregarding the autism that post is rather offensive to his character.
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everyone who shits on the 2011 version should just fuck off, you have shit taste
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>>133688940
I agree.
>Hurr muh deep imagery
>hurr muh kite in episode 1
>hurr muh filler
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>>133688940
>>133689013

Thanks for bumping this cancerous thread, sasuga 2011fags.
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>>133679953
Chimera arc is a slog for the most part. Never watched 99 but while I agree that the last couple episodes are amazing the pacing was awful and the narration is too much at times. The arcs before this were paced much better. The election arc is pretty good though.
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>>133689057
No, thank you for bumping, sasuga faggot.
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>>133689013
>>133689013
Agreed. Just post 2011 images and watch them autistically sperg out. It's still the best way to experience HxH.
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>>133689105
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>>133689103
No, unlike you cancerous newfags I know how to sage.
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>>133689057
>sasuga
you're not japanese
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>>133689570
I am though.
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>>133689616
R-really?Post eyes.
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>>133689616
so get out gook
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>>133689658
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>>133689749
thats nomura
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>>133689749
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>>133683119
>I am so much smarter than all these kids these days hahaha!
you sound like an insecure faggot
>>
Killua is cute!
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>>133686927
The feeling of this arc and much of hunterxhunter is introspection. That is why there is nothing wrong with the narration. it is just new because not many authors can pull it off.
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Im redoing a few episodes to try and get a better more natural colour palette than the one i did first. Old on the right newer on the left...
Ps image is from the mpgs on the editor thats why the look like shit
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http://strawpoll.me/6032105/
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>>133692336
Thank you Encoderanon.
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>>133682627
Doesnt mean it should be for 12 years old STUPID kids.
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>>133692344
>Leorio above Gon and Killua

kek
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>>133692956
Butthurt killuafag detected.
>>
>the show
>the director
>the original series
>the ending
literally kill yourself
>>
The only thing about the narrator is shit like

WHAT WILL GON DO NOW HE'S FOUND X WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO KURPIKA but it's all good.

Chimera arc seems promising to me so far despite being way early though but I like it, I doubt anything can top Greed Island while they spent way too much on that retarded Bomber is was fucking amazing.
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>>133692344
Kurapika>Gon>Leorio>Killua for me.
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>>133686405
even novel's writer apply the 'show don't tell' rules, even when they only use words. In the anime the narrator is over-explaining things too many times, it's essentially over-exposition by telling bluntly everything. It's like introducing yourself by saying "my name is john, my parents are dead in a car accident and that's why i'm always angry at car polution." That's way too much exposition for a "hello"
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Explain to me why Madhouse hates this guy.
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>>133693646
Why do you think so?
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>>133693646
>added in a filler scene of Kite watching Gon for no apparent reason, contradicting his character
what
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>>133693981
>generic mentor dude has character
There's nothing to contradict.
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>>133694195
nice attention disorder
>>
How are people claiming 2011 is the best adaptation when 2011 ruined Yorkshin, the most critically acclaimed arc?
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>>133694398
Because Nick Crmemester said Chimera Ant is the best thing in the world.
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>>133693907
>not in episode 1
>changed his role in the series from guy who set everything in motion to literally did nothing
>made his relationship with Gon much less significant, doesn't immediately recognize him like in the manga and even has to be reminded
>random shitty filler backstory
>random shitty filler scene making his imminent death as obvious as possible
I don't think they liked him much.
>>133694195
He's hardly generic or a mentor. He even says he won't teach them much because that's not what they're supposed to be doing.
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>>133694398
>2011 ruined Yorkshin
what

also the most acclaimed arc is chimera ant
>>
>>133694398
Chimera ant is the most critically acclaimed arc though. The anime butchered both of these arcs anyway.
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>>133694523
>muh episode 1
>all filler is bad

reminder not to respond to mangafags
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>>133694581
>adding muh makes an argument void
>thinking spending time on some shitty unnecessary filler instead of actually following the source material is good
Secondaries truly are scum.
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>>133694538
>>133694538
They're both critically acclaimed. Yorknew is much less controversial among fans though
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>>133679883
>Is Hunter x Hunter 2011 targeted towards 12 years old stupid kids ?
Happy 13th birthday anon
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>>133693642
>anime
Come back when you've read the manga,

There was maybe a few sentences that didn't need to be included but overall the narration enhances what you're seeing and your understanding of the story. It becomes an annoyance when you listen to it, but it's fine when reading. It's more like sound effects or something in the manga, it's something you can kind of tell from the image but being able to see it with clarity makes it better.
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>>133694702
>being a mangafag
>defending the slow and pointless narration
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>>133694699
My question was to emphasize the fact that the narrator is talking to me like i can't understand myself what's being showed, like i'm more stupid than when i was 12 years old.
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>>133694523
Amazing how you 2011fags will call '99 shit because there's filler in it, but proceed to defend the filler in 2011.
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>>133694857
>slow narration
>in the manga
Do you read really slowly?
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>>133695004
the 2011 filler is good. the 99 filler is bad. is that so hard to understand?
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>>133694857
Nice rebuttal, sasuga anime only fags.
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>>133695004
I'm not defending the 2011 filler though, are you retarded?
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>>133695082
My bad, meant to quote >>133694581
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>>133679883
hxh is not that great but I watched it for chrollo :3
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>>133695147
>chrollofags
Truly the biggest cancer there is after killuafags.
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>>133695041
>the 2011 filler is good. the 99 filler is bad.
>>
>>133695041
>the 99 filler is bad.
wrong, a lot of it was entertaining
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>>133695147
>>Is Hunter x Hunter 2011 targeted towards 12 years old stupid kids ?
Kill yourself >>>/tumblr/
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>>133695248
>tumblr filename
>frogposting
Who are you calling cancer?
>>
>>133695293
>unironically being a 99fag

>>133684301
>>133684693
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>>133695248
/a/ would be much better if animefags left.
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>>133695248
What goes through someones head when they post facebook frog with a tumblr filename on /a/?
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>>133695342
Not much, probably.
>>
>>133695314
>>133695328
>>133695342
Don't you guys realize they're doing this on purpose? If they wanted to be taken seriously, they wouldn't attach cancerous images like that to their posts. It's literally reverse bait
>>
>>133695392
Ironic shitposting is shitposting. I don't care whether or not they have opinions or if they are right or wrong. We can't let people think they can post that shit here.
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>>133695392
>everyone who isn't a mangafag is baiting
lmao
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>>133695392
They've been doing it for the past 10 threads or so too.
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>>133695446
Should we just stop discussing hxh altogether? I don't want these threads to become like the jojo generals
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HxH was good but the chimera ant arc was filled with so much ass pull that it killed it for me. Literally gods. They fucking flew across an entire field and caught kite off guard while they were still young and in developement. Don't even think pitou had nen yet. Nuke was an ass pull. Gon san was an ass pull.

>inb4 gon san isn't an ass pull

Why the fuck doesn't everybody in HxH not do their X-San transformation in a fight then? Every fight that was lost. Uvogin for example. His heart was bound and he was about to be killed? Why didn't he just uvogin-san his way out and instantly kill kurapika? That's why gon-san doesn't sit well with me. Every fucking character has 'potential' and to give it all up for a massive power boost is just dumb, espeically when there has been plenty of opportunities in the manga for characters who have been killed to just use it anyway but didn't because x-San wasn't invented yet and was only brought around during the CA because it was an ass pull. Ants were too strong and them getting beat was dumb because of that.
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>>133695538
>HxH was good but the chimera ant arc was filled with so much ass pull that it killed it for me.
this. hxhfags are so fucking deluded that their ass pull shit is good
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>>133695538
>>133695574
Its a shonen manga. I enjoy it for what it is
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>>133695527
I wish HxH threads would be deleted on sight until it's off hiatus.
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>>133695616
hxh is a average battle shonen at best, but these fanboys will insist it's the true deep masterpiece of manga. when it's just an ass pull shonen with bad art.
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>>133695538
>They fucking flew across an entire field and caught kite off guard while they were still young and in developement.
Yeah, that's the point. They're already born incredibly powerful. And yes, they had nen, there was like a couple of chapters centered around it that you'd notice if you didn't have ADD.
>Nuke was an ass pull
Nukes were stated to exist in HxH. Again, that's your ADD.

>Why the fuck doesn't everybody in HxH not do their X-San transformation in a fight then?
Not everyone is an enhancer, a child or has as much potential as Gon.
>Every fucking character has 'potential' and to give it all up for a massive power boost is just dumb, espeically when there has been plenty of opportunities in the manga for characters who have been killed to just use it anyway but didn't because x-San wasn't invented yet and was only brought around during the CA because it was an ass pull.
Refer to above. Not everyone has as much as sacrifice as Gon. Also the thinking behind it wasn't "shit i'm losing better powerup", Gon WANTED to die and Gon-san was a mean to do it and punish Pitou at the same. He didn't give a shit about his life anymore, unlike what you suggest.

>>133695574
>>133695616
>>133695728
You're retards.
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>>133695767
>Gon WANTED to die and Gon-san was a mean to do it and punish Pitou at the same
How is that not the same as "lol I'm dead anyway might as well just give up all my nen and KO this chain faggot easily since hes dangerous to my entire squad anyway"
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>>133695818
How is it the same at all?
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>>133695818
Uvogin had his aura completely shut off, chain jail forces the prisoner into a state of zetsu. So how was Uvo supposed to make a nen contract when he couldn't even use nen at all?
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>>133695538
>new, powerful beings are an asspull
That would make fucking everything in manga an asspull. They're from the DC and were born from nen users being eaten. The entire point of their existence was that they developed to become very strong, and we literally see how they evolve that way. The nuke wasn't an asspull because we know nuclear weaponry exist in the HxH universe. Gon san wasn't an asspull because it obeys nen rules. If other characters should have used it but didn't, that's called a plot hole. But regardless, they have neither the potential nor the resolve in most cases. Uvo is older and hadn't been stewing in rage and guilt for so long that he would naturally think to sacrifice everything to get revenge before dying.

I swear to god, people are so paranoid about 'asspulls' that they care more about everything being as predictable as possible more than the impact of the events themselves. Hey, who cares about the thematic value of the nuke or the character development behind Gon san, I was surprised that they occured so they're bad writing and unenjoyable moments!
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>>133696649
Where do you think you are?
>>
>>133683180
I'm sorry I don't normally post, but I just wanted to tell you that this is absolutely, without a doubt, the most autistic thing I've ever read, and I've been a regular lurker on r9k for the last year.

Let that soak in.
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>>133698114
>bumping this thread to announce you're a redditor
>seriously responding to a blatant shitpost
Please kill yourself
Do it now
>>
>>133698114
>doesn't sage
>bumps the thread
>browses r9k
Jesus fucking christ. Just fuck off and stay there forever you shitty underage faggot. >>>/r9k/
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>>133698283
no
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>>133690408
>implying he missed my heart
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