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For all the shit you guys gave DEEN about the 2006 version, can

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For all the shit you guys gave DEEN about the 2006 version, can you honestly say this shit is any better?

>Eyes are too far apart
>Either her right arm is too short or her head is too large, take your pic
>The shading is terrible even compared to the first half of UBW.

Even the animators at uftotable are getting sick of doing FSN, or at least UBW.
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What does her face remind me of... That band... Syndrom of downs?
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Just let fatefags stay in their containment field.
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>>124927442
we know tabata is a shit character desginer
also
>Even the animators at uftotable are getting sick of doing FSN, or at least UBW.
sorry dude but ufotoable are TMfags
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>>124927663
>STOP DISCUSSING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
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>>124928005
Make me, nerboturd
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>>124928005
>stfu

Fuck right off to reddit
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>>124928187
You first.
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>>124928283
Ladies first
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>>124928005
>stfu
>>>/v/
>>>/leddit/
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>>124928322
That's what I said.
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>>124927442
> can you honestly say this shit is any better?
Yes, it is. Rin still makes me cringe every time I see her, but the overall quality of this adaptation is just incomparable to that made by DEEN.
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>>124927442
Rin and Saber a shit that's why
just wait for HF which is the true sequel to f/z
I'm sure they will deliver.
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>>124928653
Yeah well at least DEEN has had success with non-TM related works.
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We had a poll on this a few weeks ago. The results were pretty damning:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13NvlYO1mNAdqccX58Y4Ulwe0OfDNKRDZghB2IZImuzs/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm
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>>124928991
what does that have to do with anything
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>>124927442
alien face
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>>124927442
That's what you get with Tabata designing her. Other girls look good because they are not by him.
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>>124929132
what about OST poll ?
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>>124934281
UBW is subdued, but has flexible leitmotifs all over the place which gives it a lot of tone-setting power. Caster's creepy theme going all peaceful and sad as she faded was pretty cool and those Emiya teasers are going to drive me insane if we don't get it in its full glory at Ryuudou Temple.
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>>124934646
Emiya was in one of the first trailers, wasn't it?
I think they also used the first notes at the end of Archer and Lancer's fight, but I may be wrong.
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>>124934841
There are elements from Emiya on archer's theme and on the song that plays when Shirou projects Kanshou and Bakuya for the first time.
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>>124934841
Archer's summoning scene had the first few lines remixed, and they've thrown bits of that in every time he does something serious.
UFOtable knows what the fuck they're doing, so I'm content to wait for it in due time. It's Shirou's climactic theme anyway so it seems a waste to use its full form for Archer.
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>>124927900
We should have more Naruto threads instead of Fate threads.
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>>124935403
>It's Shirou's climactic theme anyway so it seems a waste to use its full form for Archer.
*cough*DEEN*cough*
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Lancelot who for who is....for all intents and purposes, the ultimate Knight, gets shit on by everyone doesn't he?
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>>124935590
>.for all intents and purposes, the ultimate Knight
>Traitorous fuckface
>"ultimate knight"
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>>124935590
Lancelot was an insufferable edgelord and was almost as retarded and obsessive as Dirmund
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Did we end up getting dolphins or what? Haven't seen the last couple of episodes.
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>>124935830
5 or more so eps until jackhammer/dolphins
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>>124935590
>the ultimate Knight
Hey there anon you posted the wrong pic with your post. Fear not, your friends at /a/ will help you fix it by posting the correct one.
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>>124927442
How about this girl?
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>>124936033
Tsukihime/Melty Aoko > shit > Mahoyo 1/3 Aoko.
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>>124927442

Why does the kaleid art look so much fucking better than stay night?
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I really don't know how anyone can complain about the animation when the Gae Bolg scene has got to be the best animated scene in the show to date.
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>>124936190
Because lolis.
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>>124936309
They're probably wannabe sakugafags who think using effects is always bad.
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>>124936190
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>>124936190
Because it doesn't kill best girls.
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>>124936868
You know, say what you want about Rin's face, but I sure as fuck have a lot reaction images from her due to this anime.
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>>124936190
They are both pretty disgusting in different ways to be honest.
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>>124936309
It's the best in this series. Not the best to date.
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>>124936980
Ufotable's Rin is hit-or miss in some angles she looks qt as fuck, but on other shhe just looks hideous.
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>>124936980
I've lost count of how many times I've lost it over Rin's reactions. The one you posted had me in stitches for a full minute, sasuga Lancer
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>>124936980
The only issue I have with Ufo's Rin is how they downgraded her ZR.
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>>124936980
>penis goes where
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>Rinface folder
Based ufo
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>>124936980
>>124937152
STOP LIKING HER SHE LOOKS BAAAAAAD BAAAAAAD

BAAAAAAD
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Someone explain to me why they didn't just use Fate/zero's character designer...
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>>124936432
It's funny, because most UBW effects are hand drawn+3d
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>>124937045
>best animated scene
>in the show
>to date
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>>124936980
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>>124937289
- Tomonori Sudo (Garden of Sinners, Fate/Zero) is responsible for the main characters again: Shiro, Saber, Illya, and Sakura.

- Atsushi Ikariya (Fate/Zero) is once again handling the older male characters like he did in Fate/Zero: Berserker, Lancer, and the other fuckers in the Mato family.

- Hisayuki Tabata (Yuyushiki) is new to this team, but he is responsible for the sexier female designs: Rin and Rider, as well as the various supporting female characters.
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>>124937820
>Garden of Sinners
Dude, c'mon.
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>>124937820
>this shit was copied directly from neogaf
Come the fuck on man.
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>>124937820
Why is this an Issue with character designs? You guys saw last episode right?
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I wanna get into this series

what do I watch first?
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If humans don't stand a chance against heroic spirits then how did a high school teacher fuck up Saber?
How did Rin manage to kick Caster around?
Shirou parried most of Rider's attacks before he learned how to trace
etc
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>>124938756
Fate/Zero can be enjoyed standalone. People will tell you that you'd get more enjoyment out of it if you read the FSN visual novel (which is true), but it's really not necessary.
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>>124938775
>If humans don't stand a chance against heroic spirits

Humans do stand a chance against Heroic Spirits, it's just they've got to be exceptional humans, and even then it's hard as fuck.
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>>124938756
Play the VN.
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>>124938756
The best option is to read the FSN visual novel.
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>>124938775
Some servants are trash and some aren't in Caster's case she can't fight and Rin reinforced her body.

Kuzuki was buffed up to 10 times his own strength.
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>>124938805
Do we have to go through the Star Wars bullshit again?
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>>124938805
Fuck off.

>>124938756
Play the VN
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>>124938868
>>124938805

the adult version I presume
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>>124938756
You can watch and enjoy Fate/Zero without having seen/play Fate/stay night, since the story is a prequel and the production team makes sure that everyone is on the same page.
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>>124938924
Of course, why would you play a VN that isn't 18+?
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>>124938924
The most recent version allows you to switch between sex scenes, and censored alternatives.

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=427133
https://mega.co.nz/#!kgpDWBDC!_AauU3aHQ8WATX4Lm6OyTc5tGKNG_sGieK1mDHM9gI4
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>>124938924
Of course, otherwise you'd miss some of the best liens in literary history
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>>124938756
You'll get a lot more if you play F/SN, but Fate/Zero was written with people new to the series in mind.
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>>124938964
Would you watch Star Wars episode 1 first?
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>>124927442
>The shading is terrible
As opposite to DEEN's? They couldn't even get the coloring right. Even in their official artwork it was fucked up. Their tanned Rin with grayish hair was vomit inducing. Ufo is pretty decent, specially in episodes they don't follow Tabata model
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>>124938964
>since the story is a prequel
Seriosuly, fuck off. Stop trying to bait other people just because you are a retarded zeroanimefirst fag
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>>124938756
Regarding the anime series:
Fate/stay night is standalone but not that good.
Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works is not standalone and not good either.
Fate/Zero is standalone but pretty good, so start with that
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I thought the new Fate stuff was quite well made?
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>>124938756
You don't need to read Fate/stay night to understand Fate/Zero. It was designed to be a standalone work, even though it's a prequel. Go with whatever you want, the fans here are autistic about this shit as you can see, comparing it to fucking Star Wars.
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>>124939154
/a/ will find a way to complain be it character designs, tension, Miura, powerlevel, choreography, heart surgeries, etc.
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>>124939154
It is, it's just some contrarians and baiters trying to start shit.
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>>124938805
>>124938964
>>124939134
>>124939164
Well this thread went back into Bait City fast.
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>>124939154
It's great. Zerofags though are terrible people.
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>>124939164
>It was designed to be a standalone work
No it wasn't.
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>>124939282
>Hi, I'm Ei Aoki, ask me anything!
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>>124939262
Ufo's Rho Aias makes my dick so fucking hard
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>>124939154
We had a thread earlier discussing how impressive and exciting a recent scene was. The /a/utists here had to slam it down and talk about how shitty it was. It's always the same couple guys, too.
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>>124939316
>Ei Aoki
Anime-only secondary spotted

And regardless of what Butch or Aoki may say the fact that they didn't explain or glossed over so many things, particularly towards the end and even more particularly in the anime makes it a terrible stand-alone work.
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>>124939262
The bone of my sword is back full force.
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>>124938756
As stated above you can watch Fate/Zero first. I would like to mention that Fate/Stay Night came out first and Fate/Zero was "meant" to be watch afterwards since it contains spoilers for Fate/Stay Night. It's whatever you want to do in the end. If you want to do something fun, check out Fate/Extra on PSP.
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>>124939446
Next few weeks are gonna be fun. We haven't even hit the parts of UBW that the route's known for yet.
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>>124939316
>>124939490
Also, many of the interactions between characters make much more sense if you read the VN first.
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>>124938924
It doesn't really matter except for HF, which most people will recommend you read the 18+ version. So it's probably best you get the version that lets you switch between 18+ and all ages content if you've got something against sex scenes.

There's not really that much sex in it though. The game is like 70 hours long and there's only 6 sex scenes total, I think. If you read it for sex scenes you'll be massively blue balled, since the first one is like 15 hours deep into the first route and catches you completely by surprise, since by then you'll have forgotten it was an eroge.
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>>124939525
>If you want to do something fun, check out Fate/Extra on PSP.
>Fate/Extra
>fun
Tip top kek.
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>>124939619
>Chiwa Saitou
>Sakura Tange

Go read your shitty point and click game with its english 'localization' for the 9th time.
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>>124939154
It's exceptionally well made, so of course people have to tear it down to prove how cool they are. Aside from the contrarions you also have a lot of butthurt zerofag secondaries who continually shitpost in all UBW threads.
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>>124939757
>shit gameplay
>mediocre story
>fun
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>>124939832
Fatefags ruined the sacred and rich Fate series by pretending its high literature or something. Get your head off your asses.
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>>124939876
The fuck are you even talking about.
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>>124939899
I think he's stating how shitty this fanbase is and how it makes discussing it insufferable.
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>>124938756
The game is separated into three entirely different storylines: Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, and Heaven's Feel.

The anime is Unlimited Blade Works.
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>>124939876
That has nothing to do with my post.
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>Type-Moon fandom
>Competent

Just look at this thread.
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>>124939946
And how it has anything to do with F/E having a retarded, mediocre-at-best story?

>inb4 hurr the original VN was no better
fuck off
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>>124939946
The biggest problem with the fandom is its total insulation, regardless. Everybody discusses the same thing over and over again and nobody encourages new blood. It's disgusting.
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>>124939876
>>124940012
>>124940056
Oh look, the anti-TM thread bait brigade is here
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>>124940045
I always chuckle when I see autists trying to make Nasu's VNs seem more special than they really are. Because making a harem of cliche archetypes, plastering them with tragic backstories and having the MC do some edgy shit is somehow amazing writing.
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>>124938805
>>124938847
>>124938868
>>124938923
>>124938964
>>124939011
>>124939134
>>124939164
>>124939525
I remember a year back when i wanted to get into fate and asked /a/ where to start because the series aring now just got announced.
I basically got told to go fuck myself and lurk more and all of you faggot are just putting the spoon into his mouth.
Chirst this what an anime adaptation does to it fanbase
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>>124940144
>Chirst this what an anime adaptation does to it fanbase

Go check back in the 2010-2012 threads you retard.
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>>124940144
The fuck are you talking about, ever since the F/Z novel came out the standard response to secondaries asking where to start has been "go play the VN".
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>>124940144
Telling people to read the VN can prevent people from becoming disgusting Zerofags. It's a necessary evil.
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>>124940218
>ever since the F/Z novel came out the standard response to secondaries asking where to start has been "go play the VN".

Welcome, new-friend. Give it time, and it won't be fun anymore.
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>UBW is directed by the guy who 'adapted' KnK/6
>People are surprised when people don't like it all that much

Looking forward to God Eater for some of that Paradox Spiral magic.
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>>124940306
>says his first post about Fate was a year ago
>calls other newfriends
oh the sweet, sweet irony

And by the way I have been here since 2006
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>>124940354
>Miura boogieman

You know KnK6 and the changes made to it was a collaborative thing, right? And Miura has proved be competent. Those Vita OPs everyone loves? Him.

Seriously, people need to give that shit a rest.
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>>124940354
Oblivion Recorder was just as shit in the source material anon. Adapting shit doesn't stop it from being shit.
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>>124940445
The source material being the source material aside I've absolutely loved the way Ufotable's gone out of their way to embellish a lot of these fights.
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>>124940354
God eater just looks like CGI.
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>>124940546
Like the Ufotable UBW is anything to brag about either. But I assume it does win the "less shit" contest.
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>>124941050
Nice well thought out criticism.
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>>124938756
HERE WE GO
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Are there any Fate games that do not have rock paper scissors as a game mechanic?
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>>124941050
I really wish they did HF instead of leaving it for a movie. UBW has been so shitty so far up until Lancer vs Archer.
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>>124941201
HF would have been a snorefest.
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>>124937993
Pretentious but a better name
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>>124941177
>watched the original anime, it's shit
>lol, anime is shit the original VN is superior
>Fate route fan translated, it's mediocre
>lol fate route is the worst, UBW is the shit Archer is fucking GAR
>UBW is translated, it's "okay" but still a lot of shit
>bro you should see Heaven's feel, it's the best route where shit truly goes down
>HF is translated, it's boring as fuck
>bro, Fate/Stay Night is shit you, Fate Zero is where it's at, it's a prequel about the war before F/SN, it's everything awesome about the original and there is no high school shit
>typical awfully written Japanese anime light novel
>oh well, it's getting an anime adaptation, might check that out.
>it's okay, but overall a letdown, much hype little delivery.
>you should check out all these spinoffs, they are awesome as fuck
>nope

people who lurk and post in these threads have autism and love eating shit
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>>124941201
Adapting HF is like watching paint dry, sure it's interesting but not so much as 26 episodes.
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>>124938756
It's pretty terrible. Most pure VNs are. Unless you're really into waifus, all you're going to get is incredibly shitty writing, a terrible translation, and some ok sex scenes. But the ok sex scenes aren't worth the fucking 90 hours of pointless text between them. Fate could have been like 10-20 hours, but the author was retarded and though length == mature and adult writing, so everything is padded to hell and back. It takes incredibly long to say or do the simplest things.

Don't bother with Fate/Stay Night. Watch Zero and the recent Stay Night anime if you find the idea interesting (although the SN anime is still pretty boring. It's hard to fix this source material), but good lord is the VN bad.
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>>124941494
>ok sex scenes

Here's how I know you didn't read it.
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>>124941494
This is bait, but people complain about pacing in the adaptation, when that's the worst part of the VN, so yeah
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>>124941494
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I watched fate/zero on netflix for the hell of it. Should I just stop at that and not fuck with the rest of the series? The only reason I liked fate/zero was for the weird combination of magic and 90's setting.

>>124938756
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I wanna get into this series

what do I watch first?
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>>124941555
I jerked off to them too many times, what's the issue?
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>>124938756
fate/zero

fuck the VNs, they're terrible
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>>124941727
If you can actually get off to them, I guess none. More fucking power to you, but it's a common opinion that they're good..
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>>124941796
Didn't mean to add the extra period.
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>>124941796
I got off to Tsukihime's erotic scenes as well. Guess I didn't read about Hisui's starfish, defensive Type-Lunatic.
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>>124941636
If you really don't care about why everything went horribly wrong, sure
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>>124941796
>it's a common opinion that they're good
Nasu H-scenes are almost as bad as Key H-scenes.
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>>124941855
>defensive Type-Lunatic

What? All I'm saying is it's not a commonly held opinion that H-scenes translated by a high school kid are particularly hot.
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>>124939619
>implying you played and understood CCC
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>>124941954
>implying CCC was good outside the story
>implying you can recommend a full Japanese game to any random person and they'll understand it
EoP please.
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It has been a very long time since I played the original VN, but I really don't remember Shirou being this fucking annoying. Its like they've taking every bad shounen cliche and forced it on the dude. A lot of character development Shirou gets is being lost because of the lack of inner dialogue from the VN and a lot of little changes here and there. I can't remember too much, but I remember Shirou being a lot smarter and a little bit cocky-almost like a mini-Archer. I think a lot of the problem with this show stems from both missing and/or changed dialogue from the VN and the fact that UBW relies heavily upon prior knowledge of the Saber route. It's really altering the way some of the characters like Tohsaka and Shirou come off.

If you ignore the Fate/Stay Night part of the show and just look at it as generic shounen action then it works and its "ok". However as an entry in the Fate series this shit sucks.

I may catch shit for this but I believe, as far as Fate/Stay night is concerned, that the DEEN adaptation is a better "Fate/SN show" simply because there was more inner dialogue going on and better characterization. DEEN Shirou wasn't as fucking annoying till like midway through. The UBW-TV series however is a better action show/animation porn which makes it more watchable. In my opinion though it fails as an entry in the franchise if that makes any sense. Both are a shit sandwich though in comparison to what little I remember of the VN make no mistake.
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>>124941954
>needing to understand the story for a game with shit gameplay makes it fun
CCC barely improved what Extra's horrible gameplay, it was still bad.
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>cringeworthy eroge is good

thank god based ufotable saved us from a faithful adaptation of fsn
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>>124942952
>neogaf
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>>124941050
This post was also copied from neogaf.
For what purpose.
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>>124943158
Bait obviously.
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>>124943114
fuck off, ubw is by far the worst route
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>>124943306
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>people actually recommending others to read the VN
>in English
You idiots will never truly be primaries
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>>124943381
get fucked rin is worst girl
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>>124943463
>Saber
>best anything
Saberfags have gotten obnoxious lately.
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>>124943505
>lately
is there any fanbase that isn't obnoxious
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>>124943505
secondaries >>>/out/
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>>124936033
What the hell is that thing sticking out where her foot is supposed to be?
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>>124943505
Both are shit Illya included, Sakura is were it as at gaylords.
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>>124943463
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>>124943585
If I was a gaylord like you I'd be inclined to agree.
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>>124943463

I love Saber, but Rin is just better.

Saber and Rin are the two good girls. Sakura... was really bad in the VN but maybe Ufotable will redeem her.

Ultimately, Saber's route can really only tell her story-- Saber is a non sequitur to Shirou. Rin is connected with his past, present, and future. While Saber and Sakura use their routes to tell their own stories, Rin's route is about Shirou's present, past, and future.

She's the main girl of the series.

Saber is a wonderful girl, but she's also never realistically able to be a part of Shirou's life.

She's great, but Rin is the chosen one.

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To the OP, you're completely obnoxious. Yes. Easily. I don't care about your random analysis of frames. Compare several action sequences. The overall direction. Pacing. Execution of joke bits. Portrayals of Taiga-- like really dude, it's not even close.
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