Miyazaki agrees with you. Fan service is an evil invention.
Depends on the series itself. If there was an interesting premise, with interesting characters, and they throw it all out for fanservice(Hentai anime typically, which I think we can all admit is terribad 9/10)
This. Fanservice is usually nothing more than a marketing gimmick to raise sales. Usually I don't mind as long as its not distracting or derails the story/characters. One of my first filters is to check the amount and focus fanservice gets unable show. Usually the more is used the more is evident is being used to cover/compensate for poor writing or weak plot/chatacters.
There are exceptions of course but those are very scarce.
Most normalfags would probably be put off by a middle schooler in nothing but bloomers. If it's their first exposure, then it's likely they won't watch.
But it does. Normies don't do anything that they can't talk or brag about on Facebook. And they're not going to post this shit there.
shows that are 100% fanservice and rely to much fan service are usually really bad. and i don't even see the point in them. Do you enjoy cock tease that much? If I want to fap i'll go to sad panda, not watch anime
>Normies don't do anything that they can't talk or brag about on Facebook.
Yes they do, everyone has their weird passions and habits that they keep for themselves or only share with a few close friends.
What exactly do you mean by "fanservice"? Fanservice can encapsule a lot of different things, T&A, movie or pop culture references, fight scenes, backgrounds. I'd argue that fanservice is an integral part of any media.
No it can't. The term itself implies that it's more general but its actual definition in the context of anime or manga is restricted to sexual fanservice. If the term is being applied to e.g. action scenes it's a comparison to normal fanservice found in other anime/manga.
>implying normie shows like GoT don't also have fanservice
>implying it can't be both good or bad depending on the show and implementation
>implying you should care about 'normies'
Illya fan-service was the absolute worst.
That WebM is not attractive to the least. It totally misses everything that makes an adorable loli cutely erotic.
Pic related is perfect example of nose-bleeding inducing erotic cuteness that makes you want to embrace a loli tenderly with all your love and cuddle her and sniff her and kiss her on the mouth and do a little lewd stuff that makes her warmly giggle in joy.
It's developed to more or less mean that but originally the term was also applied to things like shots of mechs and action scenes.
The idea of fanservice is that it doesn't add anything to the narrative or other "point" of the show. Therefore I would argue that shows which are hinged upon fanservice aren't truly fanservice, because the service cuts are all the show has; fanservice in those shows is like dialogue in other shows.
I disagree. It totally misses the cat-girl feeling too.
Fan service is generally disgusting because it's not sincere and shows no respect to the characters.
Yozakura Quartet is a rare example of fan-service done extremely well and integrated into the whole lovely atmosphere of the show and the lovely personalities of the characters.
Indeed, it rare to find fan service that actually makes justice to the characters and fits their personalities. I don't enjoy mean spirited fan service.
Lum is a good example, the girl is fan service personified but it goes well with her personality, doesn't degrade the character and she's even rightfully admired for all her other personal qualities which is far more than what you can say for most girls coming from fanservice heavy shows.
Just fuck off already with your obsession over tumblr.
You're a faggot anon. And not in a good way.
That thing seriously looks ugly and I'm quite big Illya fan. Sure it's a spin-off, but that doesn't change the fact that it's repulsive.
Sure, you can have that opinion, though anime with action scenes are usually of that genre and action scenes are usually huge part of the story, but you often have fanservice where nothing would change without it.
Not all fanservice has to be bad, I like lewd scenes and innuendos a lot, but just outright nudity is mostly annoying and done poorly
Refers to scenes that are supposed to excite the viewer, it's usually used to describe scenes that are trying to semi-sexually arouse the viewer. It's still broader term
>exactly zero frames of animation
Excessive amounts of fanservice is a device they use to milk money from a series with poor plot or animation. I can get over it if the series has some for humor purposes if it's far from the main point of it.
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
Please tell me it was not her clit.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT MANGA WHO WOULD FIND THAT ATTRACTIVE
The only people who would care are those who want to brag to other people about how they only watch mature, intellectual cartoons.
That thing was holding on to her vagina pretty tight.
>I ACCIDENTALLY GOT TWO MORE STUCK ON IT
Nigga, how dumb do you have to be?
>The only people who would care about absolutely tasteless crap that's like a shit-stain on your audiovisual medium that you're trying to enjoy are those pretending to be mature.
Honey are you ok? I heard some noise.
>forced sex appeal
Stop this at once.
>I just find it annoying, pointless and irrelevant most of the time.
dis nigga about to get sum action
New chapter, I wonder what this could lead to?
you telling me this has chapters?
You're trying way too desperately to fit in. Fuck off.
>referring to girls as "bitches"
If you called her a "slut" then I could understand what you're trying to say, but that wording you're using should stay on /v/ or Facebook or where ever you came from.
My fucking sides.
Oh that poor bastard.
I feel for him, I really do.
It is pretty bad because it devalues the work. The problem with anime is it basically has Hollywood movie syndrome right now and the target group all only care about cute girls. It's also why games like Hyperdimension Neptunia are popular.
In the hive of people who support this there will not be a single logical argument in this thread though, so let's see how high of a post count we can get before janitors delete it.
Oh gosh what the fuck
Depends on what you mean by fanservice and what kind of series you're referring to.
If they put heavy sexual fanservice in Planetes, it would be off putting. They did put fanservice in Planetes though, in ways like upping the framerate during the zero gravity scenes which was a service to the fans who were very interested in space.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SICK SHIT I DON'T EVEN
>it's a pronoun
Guess I'll use it to refer to you from now on.
Well, you would probably like that though.
Not everyone likes it so you shouldn't be rude and use it.
i'm not a huge fan of pointless fanservice. i think it can be done in a way that compliments who the characters are (like the sexual deviant female character wearing revealing clothing). but it really bugs me when there's panty shots out of nowhere (like Grisaia). or fanservice that detracts from the main story, which really bugged me in the monogatari series because i liked some of the plot, and it's always interrupted constantly by fanservice, and then everyone only talks about the fanservice rather than the story.
moe fanservice like in K-ON! seems fine to me, because at least the innocence is a part of the characters and not just a selling point.
>Not everyone likes it
So either you like being called a faggot or you have only been here for a week.
>WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SICK SHIT
Yeah, you've been here for a week.
>Degenerate scum thinking they're better than the rest of the garbage on this board.
You can take your moral high ground and shove it up your ass. I think there's a whole website dedicated to circlejerking people like you.
>monogatari series because i liked some of the plot, and it's always interrupted constantly by fanservice
Try watching Otome x Amnesia.
Prisma Illya is a parody spinoff with tongue-in-cheek fanservice that amounts to a twisted gag routine for the most part. In fact, most fanservice can no longer be taken at face value these days. It isn't like the 90s anymore where girls randomly flash their panties in otherwise serious shows. It doesn't feel at all out of place in shows that don't take themselves seriously and can have some fun with their characters. This is one of the few ways anime has gotten better in the past decade or so.
I do like being called a faggot.
And I said I don't consume garbage. Develop some taste.
Bitch is both a normalfag word to refer to women and retarded. It takes a while to get out of that "either have to be a normalfag or an edgy kiddie who enjoys using offensive words for the sake of it" mentality though. Stop trying to fit in too hard, and refer to >>121884586 before you say "tumblr" one more time.
You're a little defensive. I was being respectful to you. I considered both possibilities since you said you wouldn't have minded if he said slut. I don't think it Is right of you to give someone crap if he is dumping a hentai, though.
Also, I see bitch a lot in ero manga, so it is a word that TLers like to use I suppose. It has a different connotation than slut so I see why they would sometimes choose that word. I do see your side though.
What a homophobic bitch.
Yeah, except the strawman comic in >>121884586 isn't even relevant to this situation.
They're not complaining about people talking about tumblr all the time here, which is what that comic is strawmanning, they're talking about how shitposters are very tumblresque in their mannerisms and speech.
I really don't think this is how the human body works
>I just find it annoying, pointless and irrelevant most of the time.
That's because you're a hypocrite and a homosexual (or a woman). I'll bet you don't see the "sexy bits" of Uta no Prince-sama or Shounen Hollywood as fan service.
I suddenly have a stabbing pain in my groin
>If only there was something to block it with
Officer I can explain! It's not what it looks like!
Take a look at the middle panel.
That's not a Red Cross...
>I can't be arsed to read doujins or watch hentai, I want shitty censored psuedo-softcore porn in my uzbekian basket weaving pictographs
would /a/ do whatever it takes?
This sure will have some use in the future.
why the fuck am i still reading this
Nothing officer I swear I was just watching
Hivemind circling the wagons because someone pointed out how japan otaku have shit taste and fanservice is Considered Harmful and Inferior to Superior Glorious Doujin and Hentai Master Race.
/a/ are plebs at masturbation
Good thing her womb was ripped out earlier. He definetely didn't impregnate her!
>insult and boogeyman me
>why are you getting defensive
>give someone crap
No need to take it personal. Liberally using "bitch" to refer to girls is just distasteful and I want anon-kun to stop doing it because
I like him.
"Slut" is a dumb word too when used in the 3D world because it's a way to shame women for their sexuality so
it's harder to make mutual love with thembut at least it has a use as referring to a certain archetype in 2D.
It's the same thing. You're splitting hairs. Obviously it's stupid to yell "tumblr" every time someone doesn't behave exactly like you want to.
It's bad for the quality of the work, but as a marketing stratagem it is fucking paydirt.
Remember who the target audience is.
>There are Anime watchers who actually don't like Ecchi, not even once in a while
Fucking shit tastes.
>If only there was something to block it with
Was marathoning Darker than Black series and just saw this thread anyway. Not like I have anything important to do on 4chan.