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Is it just me or did Naruto copy Hunter x Hunter?

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Is it just me or did Naruto copy Hunter x Hunter?
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Togashi copied DB and JoJo in YYH.
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>>120560943
Elaborate on that first.
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>>120560943

If by copy you mean "be inspired by" then yes. Believe it or not but Mangaka read other peoples manga.
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Heavily inspired, especially the beginnings
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>>120561071
No he didn't

>>120560943
No it's not just you, like 70% of naruto (not shippuden) was basically an exact parallel to hunter x hunter.
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>>120561189
Say what you want, but Kishi did it better with the eyes until it he took the retarded road and fucked byakugan while making the Sharingan a cheat
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>>120561205
>70% of naruto (not shippuden) was basically an exact parallel to hunter x hunter.
No, Sage-Shitposter. You shitposted in the Op Thread and now hear. Pathetic.
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>>120560943
Chuunin exams=Hunter exams.
Sasuke=Kurapika+Killua
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>>120561244

I don't really know about the eyes, lol. But the exam arcs are basically the exact same. It's almost creepy. I decided not to get into Naruto.

Imagine how much Hunter x Hunter localized video games and stuff we would have if it was Hunter x Hunter which gained popularity in the west instead of Naruto.
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>>120561301
Damnit nigger, stop stalking me.

and also don't hold grudges, that's even more pathetic.
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>>120561244
And fix it back with Kaguya and Hamura.
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>>120561426
>Damnit nigger, stop stalking me.
Stop with the namefagging first, you are literally showing that you don't know what sage means/how to sage.

>and also don't hold grudges, that's even more pathetic.
Alright m8
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>>120561365
imagine getting to create your own nen-ability

8^)
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>>120561453
Way to late. Byakugan wa basically Neji and those two niggas. everyone else + that slave of the mizukage were irrelevant.
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>>120561365
There no else to blame but Togashi.
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>>120561476

Nen abilities aren't as cool as stands.
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>>120561475
Why do people like the name Anonymous so much? I'd prefer to choose my own.
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>>120561530

I know, but it's just nice to daydream about what it could been. I feel like it's the best in its genre. Naruto seems like a watered down version of it and it has all these big budget games that get localized and all kinds of other products as well.

Well, at least Killua and Gon are in that Jump Stars game that's getting released in English.
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>>120561633

4chan is an anonymous immage board. The appeal is that people are candid with their responses and would say things they'd never say if they had to live it down. If you want recognition then go 99% of other message boards. I hear reddit is popular.
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>>120561727
But why would they add the name, if it wasn't meant to be used :3?
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>>120560943
Flame of recca (YYH ripp off)+ HxH + Ushio to Tora= Naruto
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>>120561756

To single out faggots like you.
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>>120561569
thats not true.
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Better question
Why was the hunter exam arc so much better in the 99 anime?
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The water divination test reminds me of Harry Potter where the hat picks your school house.
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>>120561807

>no ghostly buddy to pose with
nen a shit.
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>>120562014
You could emit one if you wanted
Hell, you could even emit and manipulate 10 if you're good
Nen > stands
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>>120562014
8^)
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>>120562125
Best fight
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>>120561784
Yet still no where as good as either of them
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>>120562014
:^)
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>>120562012
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>>120562125
How netero was able to materilize that if he was enhancement.
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>>120562342
>Literaly fodder tier.
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>>120562346
It was implied that he became a specialist with time
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>>120562343

I'm not a Naruto fan. I just looked this up. You gotta be joking.
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>>120562087
>>120562125

To keep the argument simple I'll pick a simple stand. Name one nen user that can beat Jotaro in a fight. Keep in mind, Star Platinum has telescopic sight, enough strength to punch through steel, and super durability. Also, star platinum has ultimate accuracy, speed, and dexterity so he could pluck bullets out of the air and even flick them back to ricochet off stuff and hit you. All these bullshit power and he can stop time for 5 seconds.
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>>120562210
>Best fight
>Not Gon getting his shit pushed in by Hisoka
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>>120562346
It's a Emission type-technique, not a materialization one.
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>>120562499
I'm pretty sure the buddha following his punches and strikes is considered enhancement
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>>120562456
I'm not
I started HxH a little before Naruto ended. I'm kinda glad I did because even with Togashi being in eternal hiatus, HxH did not disappoint.
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It's just you, OP

>>120561189
>tfw sauce isn't as cute
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>>120562210
That isn't Gon vs Hisoka, or any Morel fight in general.
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>>120562463
Nen abilities, except maybe for enhancement, aren't about raw strenght, but about how they are used
>hurr it's the best becuz it can blow up a planet by snapping his fingers and is immortal and can teleport
Literally dropped
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>>120562463
and faster than Light speed
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>>120562659
>Morel wrecking furrybug twice in a row
Based
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>>120562549
Both are right, the Budda itself is a Emission technique, but it's attacks are Enhancement.
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>>120561071

>JoJo

Jojofags always making presence and managing to embarrass themselves
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Just your imagination.
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>>120561071

>Jojo

hahaha, fuck no, retard.

Jojo is just referenced in a lot of anime because they know if they reference jojo jojofags will buy the show like the autistic retards they're.
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>>120562463
>to keep this argument simple

What exactly is this supposed to prove? That Akira has no idea how to reasonably balance out abilities?
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>>120562463
meleoron
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>>120562463
Literally anyone
Using nen on someone opens their nen ports things, and if done violently it incapacitates you
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>>120563040
this

and does anyone know exactly how fast netero's nen can move? is it faster than star platinum?
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>>120561365
>Imagine how much Hunter x Hunter localized video games and stuff we would have if it was Hunter x Hunter which gained popularity in the west instead of Naruto.
Well there was a time where it boomed and Greed Island was adapted into a video game.
Since then it has gotten a cult following and now it's even more popular becuase of the anime.
Naruto in any scenario would have ended up as the most popular one because great advertisement in games and anime in the US while Hunter x Hunter became less known.
I wonder how things would have gone if it aired on Toonami (1999 version) as the succesor of Yuyu Haksuho
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>>120562568

You're making me want to try out Naruto. I'm so buttfrustrated about Hunter x Hunter that I could use a knockoff. I really don't know anything about it besides that they start off at some sort of ninja school, Naruto can eventually form clones of himself, and Sasuke's eyes turn red. I wonder if I can find the original episodes in high definition somewhere, it's not on Netflix surprisingly
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>>120562463
>stop time for five seconds
You must have forgotten that the attack on Meurem's Kingdom lasted 30 munites.
Meurem would rip off Jotaro's hat right out of his hair
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>>120563189

That's what I'm wondering too. Hunter x Hunter actually has a lot of video games in Japan by the way. The PSP one is pretty fun.
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>>120560943
It copied dragonball.
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>>120562795
What about Zero hand?
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>>120563369
>concentrated blast of the entirety of his aura
My guess is emission
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>>120562549
>>120562795
Emission to make the Buddha, manipulation to control it and enhancement to make it stronger
Netero was a very strong person
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>>120563040
>meleoron

He's too much a pussy to slit throats. Killua would make better use of his ability but that'd make HxH too boring and end this discussion

If Jotaro were fighting Mel then he'd just jump in the air and examine the ground for broken twigs and shit with Star Platinums telescopic sight. He'd guess the general location Mel is at and punch spam until he knocks the air out of Mel and kills him.
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>>120562463
>Thinking the power system in one manga is better because one of the powers is strong
Disgusting, I guess DBZ had the best power system then
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>>120563435
How did he get the Buddha though? Did he make it or was he blessed by it after reaching his own form of enlightenment?
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>>120562463
Don't forget how Star Platinum has very limited range except for when Jotaro is in prison then it can get him beer, RC cars and the Shonen Jump.
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>>120563608
>DBZ
>Not Saint Seiya.
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>>120562463
English yours language first not was huh?>>120562700
Jotaros stand was the physically strongest in the series so its power of time stop that was revealed at the end of part 3 wasnt very complicated(Although insanely bullshit). Aside from him the stands are all very intrigiung, and just get very complicated especially in part 4 on up.
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>>120563648
I guess his praying to it by offering 10,000 puches a day for 2 years gave him the ability to summon it
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>>120563506
>too much of a pussy to slit throats

i think you're confusing him with taco, and your plan wouldn't work anyways because meleoron's perfect plan makes him literally undetectable.
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>>120563648
No clue, all we really know is that he spent many years standing still while training his punch, iirc it supposedly made him go above and beyond what a person should be able to do
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>>120562430
No it wasn't
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>>120563759
could people in saint seiya blow up planets like nothing?
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>>120563506
Doesn't matter if he's a pussy. The question is who can, not who is willing.

Why would Jotaro know exactly what Meleoron's doing? Does that mean Meleoron is briefed on Jotaro's ability, too? Then he'd just stay perfectly still and keep holding his breath until Jotaro is on the ground again (which wouldn't take very long, considering he can't fucking float). And why are you assuming there are twigs and miscellanea on the ground? What if they were on clean asphalt?

Face it faggot, the only thing that could save Jotaro from meleoron is plot armor.
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>>120563916
>Planets
Try Galaxies
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How do we go about getting HxH out of hiatus?

Does anyone have experience with kidnapping for ransom?
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>>120564173
You never know when it coming back.
As far we know Togashi could be playing strip poker with Miura, Hoshino and his wife.
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I'm not being facetious or speaking in hyperbole when I say that Naruto is a blatant rip off of Hunter x Hunter. It's not the same as other series which take plot a couple plot points or story ideas from other series and then give it a new spin. Naruto is almost Nick Simmons level plagiarism. We're talking shameless thievery of entire important scenes, characters and character backgrounds, battle mechanics and development. There was a time when no one on /a/ would deny this, but then a handful of cocksucking, loud and obnoxious Naruto fanboys invaded this place on late 2009. But this still isn't up for debate. If we brought in any lawyer or judge specialized in copyright laws, he'd readily agree that the similarities are overwhelming and obviously intentional.
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>>120562463
Pretty much every single nen user.
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>>120564173
>>120564288

I only got into Hunter x Hunter in the few years (when I picked up the 2011 anime as it started). The frustrating thing wasn't so much the hiatus, but when he "came back" from his hiatus and then stopped again for a couple months. The fuck?

I can't even imagine how tormented a fan of Hunter x Hunter must be who has been a fan since the 90s. Most likely many fans have killed themselves.
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>>120564299
Other than Chunin Exam, Chakra paper, red eyes and last of my clan, later on Naruto became original.
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>>120564385
>Other than Chunin Exam, Chakra paper, red eyes and last of my clan, later on Naruto became original.
and we all know how that turned out
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>>120564385
Don't forget akatsuki being phantom troop 2
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>>120564443
They are nothing alike.
Other than being a group of Rouges which is not uncommon in manga/anime
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>>120564431
I rate naruto 7/10
Any problem?
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>>120564299
>>120564385

Why would Naruto fanboys deny it when the creator has been on record in interviews stating that he was inspired a lot by Hunter x Hunter?
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>>120564492
Only yourself
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>>120564492
Depends what you rated HxH
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>>120564299
agreed, kishimoto ripped so much shit from hunter x hunter yet it's still garbage.

i watched naruto before hunter x hunter and fucking hated it yet hunter x hunter is now my favorite anime.
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>>120564543
Im not denying anything. But when people call it plagiarism is when we have a problem
That's like saying Meurem was plagiarized from Cell
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>>120564299
>If we brought in any lawyer or judge specialized in copyright laws, he'd readily agree that the similarities are overwhelming and obviously intentional.
If that was the case then naruto wouldn't have even reached 100 chapters you faggot. STop with your delusion. Also you seem to be a HxHfag. Every series is inspired by others, but finds it's own way. If you think that narutos battle mechanic is a complete cop of the nen-system then you are beyond autism. Of course it's shonen cliche, but not a direct copy.
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>>120564578
I don't remember that guy.
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>>120564578
>Using pictures as reference
>it's suddenly plagiarism
That's like calling the author of Slam Dunk the biggest plagiarizer in history
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Reminder that Bisky is best girl
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>>120564578
>people get idea from sources

Oh wow, who knew? You ever seen the picture of Oda's character design sheet?

>>120564749
You meant Palm, I'm sure
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>>120564638
because you didn't read the manga.
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>>120564913
That guy with the blond hair was definitely not in HxH
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>>120563893
Yes it was
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>>120564749
*best living girl
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>>120564385
>later on Naruto became original

Kishimoto couldn’t steal any more concepts and ideas from Togashi anymore due to all the hiatuses

Mind you, Naruto was always bad/mediocre, but it took a nosedive in quality exactly after HxH went on hiatus, leaving Kishimoto without his guiding point. No wonder Part II of Naruto consisted of Sasuke Rescue arcs and fighting old villains again, until Kishimoto finally decided what to write (which properly why you said "later on Naruto became original" ) , albeit much too late.

Anyways, these similarities are pretty hard not to notice, and when there’s just too many of them, copied in such a blatant manner, it’s hard to call them just a coincidence.
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>Pitou didn't NTR Killua by taking Gon's purity
Shit show
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>>120562463
Meruem
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>>120564987
By you? Retard, show the "implication" or fuck off
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>>120562886
This is true about Jojofags, but he really did copypaste from Jojo for like two volumes with the territory shit
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Kishimoto: Before I became a professional, I was already a big fan of Togashi-sensei.

Kishimoto: When I could see him at Jump Festa, I was very happy, but only after a few years was I able to actually meet him.
Kishimoto: Because I know an assistant who worked in the same office as you, I received an invitation.
Togashi: Yeah, we went to the Yakiniku, right? (Yakiniku is a Japanese steakhouse of Korean origin)

Kishimoto: Yes. Well, during that time period I was having difficulty creating my manga. I thought I'd ask you several tips sensei, but whenever I met you, really, I would just get incredibly nervous. But you gave me a lot of attention and were always helpful. I even got over the nervousness and ended up asking a lot. After the meal you introduced me to the workplace. The preparation techniques of your work and the work environment, among many other things, taught me a lot.

>So now we would like to hear about the fascination that Kishimoto has with Togashi.

Kishimoto: He is amazing in every way, right? Since before I became a professional, as an avid reader I already loved and read very enthusiastically Hunter x Hunter.
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>>120564913
I read the manga. I don't remember him.
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>>120565003
>Anyways, these similarities are pretty hard not to notice, and when there’s just too many of them, copied in such a blatant manner, it’s hard to call them just a coincidence
tell me about all those similarities you noticed.
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>>120565012
What purity?

Gon and Killua had already fucked by Greed Island.

And he had tons of /ss/ before that.
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>>120564615
meruem has a tail and he's green, those are literally the only two similarities.
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>>120565202
>Gon and Killua had already fucked by Greed Island.
w-what
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>>120560943

It's called archetypes hero path and theory of the genre anon. Those are structures that dictate plot points or what kind of stuff needs to happen.

There was a time where Bleach and Naruto where both doing the same thing at the same time like focusing on secondary characters, training, meeting the same kind of characters (Naruto meeting Bee and Ichigo meeting whoever his master was at the time).
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>>120564615
meruem is actually a confirmed homage to Freeza and Cell
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>>120565202

They never fucked you god damn disgusting freak. Killua is gay but Gon is straight. Dumbass.
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>>120565289
it's more to do with both having a sole survivor of a clan whose eye's turn red
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>>120565304
Togashi said it in an interview?
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>>120565661
There's a good chance Killua is legit gay. He has been heavily sheltered by an apparently cross dressing enthusiastic mother, with outside views of the world being as killing targets.

First real person he has bonded with is a boy his age.
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>>120565809

So?
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>>120565661
Gon ha learnt quite a few things from shotacon ladies whom he used to date and that's canon.
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>>120565661
What, do you think he just magically got Gon's scent or something?
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>>120565873
So? So what? The point of the post was within itself.
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>>120563189
Look on the bright side. At least there aren't retards who've made it their life mission to shitpost HxH threads.
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>>120565144
Post the full interview.
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>>120565661
He might be gay, who knows, but saying he's gay because he wants to be with Gon is fucking retarded. He's his first real friend.
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>>120564953
source is right there in the image. Chapter 102.
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>>120565984

Too lazy, sorry.
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>>120565927

Get a life.
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>>120565197
Let’s see:

>Gon’s best friend and rival Killua is a prodigy and very skilled from a prestigious family
>same age as Gon but with a more calm, serious and dark attitude. Killua's nen type is electricity (similar to Sasuke's lightning).
>Kurapika is the last survivor of the massacre of the Kuruta clan.
>He lives for revenge above anything. The Kuruta clan has a special ability called "Scarlet Eyes" their eyes turn red.
>Gon also goes all out to take Killua away from his own deadly assassin family, Naruto goes all out to retrieve Sasuke from his dangerous mentor.


Kishimoto combined Kurapika and Killua to create Sasuke
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>>120566347

Kishimoto says that Sasuke is based most heavily on Hiei from YYH, but I think that's bullshit.
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>>120566027
He's always going to be plausibly gay or not because he's a fictional character who needs to appeal to both fujos and people who don't want gay 12 yr olds in their manga. The best we can do is try to guess what Togashi is thinking, which I bet is that he wants them to be canon gay but Jump wont let him.
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>>120566347
Well, that's still not the whole story. So you can't say that Naruto is a HxH rip off, both even went into absolutly different directions.
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>>120565685

The whole "sole survivor" thing is a cliche that meets with certain criteria on the hero's path.

Heroes must be orphans or lack a parental figure and stable home... it's difficult to start an adventure from within a stable home where everyone is alive and happy.
The mentors act as paternal figures, like say Jiraya or Dumbledore or Obi wan or Kwi gon that protect and train the hero but must ultimately leave them for some reason so they can prove themselves before the showdown.

The formula is repeated again and again and again since the beginning of time. The last jedi, the last Sayan, the last master of hiten mitsurugi, and so on...

I don't think it really qualifies as copying...
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>>120566709
And they must always have red eyes too that are based solely within that mass murdered clan?
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>>120566661
Chuunin exams = Hunter exams
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>>120566411
>>120566027

Well, I have a very hard time believing that Gon is gay. However, I think Killua could be. Nobody is gay "because" they want to be with someone, but Killua's thoughts definitely border on romantic at times when it comes to Gon.

It doesn't matter anyway if Killua is gay. It might seem pathetic or even psychotic to be wondering about these things seriously, but what else do Hunter x Hunter fans have to do with no anime or manga releases?
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>>120566661
Like i said. Their paths diverged after a couple hundred chapters, Because Kishimoto couldn’t steal any more concepts and ideas from Togashi anymore due to all the hiatuses.
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>>120566857
Chunin Exams != Whole Naruto Story
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>>120566931
>Well, I have a very hard time believing that Gon is gay.
Why exactly is that? He hasn't said or done anything in the manga that makes him seem particularly heterosexual.
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>>120564578
Could have been the best shonen of the decade/10
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>>120563012
>That Akira has no idea how to reasonably balance out abilities
There are a lot of stand that counters Jotaro star platinum.
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>>120567004
Except dating older women and implied heterosexual sex with those women.
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>>120567004

Just statistical probability (most people aren't gay) and the fact that he's never really come off as romantically attracted to the guys around his age which have surrounded him through the series.
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>>120563750
It seems like you forgot about STAR FINGUH
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>>120567004
He goes on dates with girls, and makeshift fakes with Mama Gon. He even knew how to go on a proper date and turn down Palm. Definitely heterosexual.
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>>120562463
ME

*teleports behind jo-san* hello

"what?!"

star platinum tries to punch me but i instintaneously cut it in 2 with my katana *break jojos hand*

get out of my site....forever....if i ever see you again.....i will kill you.....
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>>120566992
Your point? Kishimoto still plagiarised a ton of shit from hunter x hunter. Nobody said he copied the entire fucking story, the parts he didn't copy are garbage anyways.
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>>120560943
Togashi might be back. Naruto's largely done so he's not trying to avoid crossing stories with Kishimoto. Let's hope Naruto brings a new lease of life into Togashi...

pls ;__;
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>>120567144
He thought he was going on dates with Mito too, if that doesn't tell you how naive and innocent he is I don't know what to tell you. That whole exchange was to make fun of Gon not understanding sex and Killua's dirty mind.

If anything he's completely asexual, not straight or gay. He's a kid after all. His date with Palm was totally innocent too.
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>>120567004
I don't think either of them are "gay" in a sexual way. I think Killua is attached enough to Gon to love him in which would lead to a sexual way later on.

Killua's love is pretty pure, so is Gon's but I don't think he goes as far with it.
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Meleoron would be so fucking OP if he had no objections to just stabbing people while invisible.
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>>120562855
Now that's just reaching.
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>Oh neat, a HxH thead, I wonder what's being discu-
>Gay shipping

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
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>>120567458
It's hard to not have gay shipping in a show with a two gay main characters.
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>>120561365
>lol
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>>120567458
I usually just ignore it, but the recent discussion of it in this thread is actually discussion
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>>120565108
Didn't you pay attention when Gon started his training with Wing-san? He said that you can become a specialist in later life - is that not implication enough?
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>>120562463
>Let me make this simple by picking the "strongest" stand
Why even bring powerlevels up when jojo does a really good job of not making fights about who has the stronger stand. It's about how they make use of it. Even star platinum is far from invincible.
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>people actually think Gon was having sex with those older women
how delusional.
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>>120567458
Can be worse, they can be discussing about The gender of Pitou and Alluka.
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>>120567458
There isn't anything else to discuss.

Because that's the only strong points HxH has.

Shit fights, shit abilities, shit plots ALWAYS resolved in the most unsatisfying way possible, shit character development across the board.
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>>120567552
It's not an implication because Netero's power is very believable for a man who trained for 50 years. It only uses Enhancement, Emission, and some Manipulation, which are in sequence.

If Netero was using a strong manipulation and transmutation technique, then you'd have a better argument in calling him a specialist.
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>>120561365
It's too bad that Togashi is lazy. Say what you want about Kishi but at least he cared enough to keep up with the weekly schedule.
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>>120567458

It's not really shipping, I just love the characters and want to know everything about them, including the possibility that Killua is gay.
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>>120562855
none of them even look a like, and it's pretty pathetic that someone would actually search this hard to make this.

i really hope that person wasn't you
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>>120567612
Everyone knows Pitou is most probably female, the real problem is shitposters who stir the pot.
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>>120567736
Pitou is genderless.
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>>120567612
Alluka IS girls. the point is only Killua see her while the rest of the Zoldyck only see Nanika so they refer it as He.
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>>120567552
There is literally no implication there toward that end.

There is NO implication. Netero's ability can be described without being specialist. There was NO implication at all, he just state an outright fact, which if worked as anything more, it was the foreshadowing of Kuripika's emperor time
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How do you guys deal with the hiatuses?

Unlike those of you who've been reading since the beginning and got accustomed to the hiatuses, I just marathoned the entire manga in the last 3 days and now I just feel empty and desperate for more.
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>>120567746
That's less likely. Especially for an ant.
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>>120567716
Who cares. I'd rather have constant hiatuses and an extremely well written manga than a weekly dose of cancer, that's just my opinion though.
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>>120567753
Alluka is a boy, nanika is a girl.
End of case.
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>>120567509
lrn2childhoodfriendship

My basketball teammates and I fool around all the time. The majority of us are pretty close.
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>>120567718
And as sappy as it sounds I'm very invested in their relationship so it's less shipping for fun and more shipping to analyse their characters
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>>120567769
Read other manga.
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>>120567857
The 2 main gay characters are Hisoka and Killua, Gon isn't gay.
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>>120567769
It's like asking how people deal with pain.
You just deal with it, there's no point in being a faggot and crying about and shit.
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>>120567736
>Everyone knows Pitou is most probably female

I miss post-2011 anime HxH threads.
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>>120567889
>Hisoka
Hisoka isn't gay, he's a funophile
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>>120567819

Yes but Togashi's schedule is unproffessional no matter how much I'd like to be an apologist for him. He can take his hiatuses for as long as he need to, but he shouldn't re-continue until he's ready to keep going for a while. He shouldn't excite his fans by announcing a return only to quickly stop. That's sadistic
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>>120567656
>very believable for a man who trained for 50 years

The logic of the implication follows that even if you don't reach specialist status you can train hard enough to develop yourself in the other nen types than the one you're naturally inclined to.
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>>120567843
>inventing baseless theories because you don't want to acknowledge the possibility of a trans character even though Togashi has written them before with zero ambiguity
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>>120567843
it's the opposite way around
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>>120568062
I will get the last laugh in 15 years
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Togashi is a faggot.
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>>120568062
>>120568078
But Alluka is definitely a boy, and Alluka always refers to Nanika as a girl.
>>120568118
You're not me, no one was talking to you

>>120568132
Almost definitely somewhat literally. Not even joking.
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>>120567819
>extremely well written manga

I thought we were talking about HxH, not Berserk.
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>>120567889
The point is, any resemblance to male friendships as Gon and Killua's will be considered gay because those that see it that way can't comprehend it.

Not sure about Hisoka but he seems pretty much a depraved omnisexual and I imagine he'd fuck/fight anything worth his time.
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>>120568236
Killua is gay, why would he freak out to Palm wanting a date, and Gon already going out on dates if he wasn't interested in Gon? Dude wanted Gon to be gay so bad I could feel it.
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>>120568216
There's only one? Ever?
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>>120567857
But you're also a huge faggot, so that only gives more proof at them being gay.
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>>120560943
Alright guys I did it.

Am I in for a good ride?(I enjoyed Naruto)
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>>120568436
>(I enjoyed Naruto)

You'll enjoy anything then.
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>>120568436
>I enjoyed Naruto
Is this bait or did you skip almost all of Naruto?
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>>120568328
>why would he freak out to Palm wanting a date

I get a little jealous when my best m8 hangs out more with his girlfriend or meets new friends. I'm possessive over bonds that have taken years to develop or have been tested by tough times but I don't think I'm gay, I have no problems with it either. The point is you're explanation is aiming for a reason that is absolute, which it isn't.
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>>120560943
Is it just me or every shonen ever copy each others?
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>>120567562
>"Strongest"
SP is literally garbage compared to some of the other shit
Like S&W and GER
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>>120568545
>n-no homo really guys

>>>/fit/
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>>120568545
You might be a little gay.
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>>120568436

It's factually the best shonen series ever created, so probably
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>>120568568
yea that's shonen for ya
a mix of HNK, Jojo, and DBZ created the perfect formula for never ending money print series, and everyone follows it because money.
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>>120568400
Eh sure, I guess if that's how you wanna see.

Have you never been in a seriously competing sports team, among whom you are really good friends with? r u lonely m8?
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>>120568495
I don't like 99% of the moe shit /a/ recommends, so there's that.

>>120568537
I skipped the fillers, otherwise I enjoyed it.

>>120568629
Cool, even though I already spoiled myself by watching all the fights and such
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>>120568568
Yes and that's why it is stupid to complain about one case over others.
You should be complaining about SJ as a whole.
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>>120568495
>>120568537
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>>120568665
>Cool, even though I already spoiled myself by watching all the fights and such

There is only like 4 fights in the series, the big spoiler is when Kite dies.
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>>120568591
>>120568599

It feels great to be this comfortable with my sexuality. Try it out.
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>>120568436
Probably not.

It's literally just Boku no Pico without the actual porn part.

Don't let these closet fags fool you.
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>>120568743
>Does gay things
>Doesn't think he's gay

That's not being comfortable, if you were you'd say what you're doing is pretty gay.
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>>120568665
>I already spoiled myself by watching all the fights and such

I don't know why you'd do that, but fights aren't really spoilers anyway. Hunter x Hunter actually has a good story and very in depth world building. The setting and the rules in place are pretty well fleshed out and stuff. It's more about the adventure than anything.
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Shonen is literally a chain of copies of each other that change over time like a Chinese telephone.
so yes, probably
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HxH is good because there is no bullshit friendship power ups that save the day, it all has to do with destroying yourself to achieve your goals.
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>>120568787
>That's not being comfortable, if you were you'd say what you're doing is pretty gay.

I get off on girls though, as hard as it is for you to believe for the sake of your own argument.
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>>120562463
If you're going to try to make madara uchiha bullshit to make your point, at least use an actually strong stand like King Crimson.
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>>120562463

No character in HxH can beat Jotaro, and you know that, faggot.
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>>120562463
Can any character in JoJo beat Accelerator?
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>>120568827

That's just anime & manga in general, a lot of people in the industry are really sleazy and there's a lot of borderline plagiarism that goes on. Kishimoto isn't the first and he won't be the last to lift a lot of ideas like this.
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Is there a single thing that HxH really excels at?

I can't think of a single one, there are plenty of manga that do far, far better in any given category.
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>>120560943
I dunno, but HxH copied Dragon Ball.
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>>120568018
Your point? Ever heard of quality over quantity?

Naruto is still shit compared to Hunter x Hunter. Togashi can do whatever he wants, he's not your slave. And he's on hiatus now because of back pains.

>He shouldn't excite his fans by announcing a return only to quickly stop. That's sadistic

Which of these is more sadistic:

a, writing a few chapters even though he has no obligation to do so, just so ungrateful pieces of shit like you can read them illegally and complain
b, forcing him to write until he ends up with a permanent injury ruining the entire thing for everybody

Hmm, I wonder.
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>>120569090
>Is there a single thing that HxH really excels at?

Character development, if you take the anime into account, music.
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>>120569090
Subverting battle shonen tropes
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>>120560943
No.

And HxH is just YYH while copying even MORE from Dragon Ball.
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>>120568236
ikr, talk about a classic case of autism
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>>120569072
What frustrates me are shows like Baka and Test or Guilty Crown that have good ideas of their own but keep falling back on ecchi clichés to pad out.
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>>120569171

Would you say that it's a deconstruction of the shonen genre?
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>>120569298
Not the genre but it's established tropes.
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>>120569171
Why is that a good thing? Some things are good about that, but it's not worth it when every single fucking arc ends like shit because of it.

HxH would actually be a contender for best shonen if it had satisfying resolutions.
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>>120569070
Yes
Kraftwerk
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>>120569090
Character development, Meruem's character arc is a masterpiece by shounen standards.

Avoiding predictability, cliches and tropes.

The power system and fights.
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>>120569369
>if it had satisfying resolutions
4 u
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>>120568568
>Is it just me or every shonen ever copy each others?
Try manga
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>>120568568
>Is it just me or every shonen ever copy each others?

That's like saying all Mahou Shoujo copy each other just because it's a bunch of girls running around defeating bad guys.
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>>120569385
>Avoiding predictability, cliches and tropes.

The triumph of good has to be ultimately worked towards in such genres, it's a given. But yeah I'd agree, hxh is quite unpredictable in it's journey.
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>>120569090
>any given category.
It excels at not lacking in any. It does them all great.

I mean OP may have better world building, but HxH does it near as good.

I can't think of a character who isn't "good," all that I don't like, I feel like they were meant to be like that.
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>>120567819
10/10 post
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>>120569096
>I dunno, but HxH copied Dragon Ball.
How so
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>>120569096
Several people have said this, but literally no one has expounded on it.

Care to explain?
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>inserting yourself into your manga

Who does this?

>>120569690

It's a meme
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>>120569731

luffy = oda
aizen = kubo
naruto = kishimoto

the better question is who wouldn't do that.
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>>120569970

Some people go a little over the top with it...
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>>120569385
>Avoiding predictability, cliches and tropes.
I'd say the best thing is that it goes into them, and drives them somewhere else.

Be honest, when you were introduced to Gon, Killua, Kuripika, Hisoka, Gitturaker (Illumi) etc.
I bet you thought it'd be

>Gon stupid, but battle genius who has "perfect" morality
He's consistently simple minded, straight in his tactics and in someways has the "worst" sense of morality

>Killua, 100% edge all day every day
Can be dark, due to upbringing, otherwise just a kid going through stuff for first time

>Kuripika, see Killua's expectation
Only shows edge when it's acceptable, and rarely.

>Leorio, useless side character
Whilst being always weaker, in the manga he was considerably better and usefull at times. The anime cut ALL of his small, but big impact for him, moments out.

>Hisoka, the joker and that one FF villian
A chill guy, very little edge, just enjoys fighting, sexually.

>Gitteracker, Raditz
illumi

The list goes on
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>>120569970
That just makes Togashi's choice of self inserts even funnier. Most accurate too.
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>>120569731
everyone
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>>120569136
>>120569385
>Character development
Every time. Why are HxH fans so delusional? The only thing HxH does worse than character development is the actual fights.

The only main character who's had any kind of development at all is Killua.
Gon is still a retarded/idealistic kid, even after everything he's been through.
Kurapika is still a one-dimensional shithead.
Leorio is still a useless fuck.

Mereum didn't even have that much either, he just fell in love with Chaika 0.5.0 and that was it. Even Netero had more development during that arc than Meruem.
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>>120569583
I'd say Togashi managed to subvert that with Gon san, since it was technically the triumph of good over evil, but paints good as bad, evil as sympathetic, and the triumph as flat out sad. It didnt feel like a victory worth celebrating. Though yeah obviously good has to win in the end.
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>>120570494
>Gon is still a retarded/idealistic kid, even after everything he's been through.
He has always got his way though, why would he change?

until recently, in which he has shown some change

>Kurapika is still a one-dimensional shithead.
are you kidding? Have you not read the manga?

>Leorio is still a useless fuck.
Ok you definitely never read it
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>>120570494
>Even Netero had more development during that arc than Meruem
You're definitely baiting.
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>>120570494
>Gon is still a retarded/idealistic kid, even after everything he's been through.
>idealistic kid

Did you skip the CA arc?
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It's implied that Netero is a Kurta
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>>120570494
>Mereum didn't even have that much either

You tried
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>>120570524
nicely put
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If we're having a HxH thread, can anyone make me or provide a .webm of Killua using his yo-yo as a grapple hook during The Last Mission?
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>>120570524
>Though yeah obviously good has to win in the end.

Chairman was seen as evil throughout the entire fight with Meruem.
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>>120570698
>are you kidding? Have you not read the manga?
Literally his only character trait is "getting my clan's eyes back!!". That's it. There's absolutely nothing else to him.

>Ok you definitely never read it
He's still a useless piece of shit in the manga too. Just because the anime makes him an even bigger one doesn't make him not one.

>>120570738
>Did you skip the CA arc?
No. As soon as he found out Kite had reincarnated, he went back to exactly how he was before.

>>120570727
>>120570827
>b8 meme

Please tell me what else about Mereum developed besides falling in love with proto Chaika.
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>>120570896
You're gonna need to learn to feed yourself one day anon
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>>120570524
He did the same in YYH
>Sensui who was a demon died a human
>Yusuke who was a human became a demon.

Chimera ant arc had the same symbolism, in the end ants portrayed more human like qualities than the hunters especially Meruem 2.0.
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>>120570940
>Literally his only character trait is "getting my clan's eyes back!!".

That and the whole revenge thing, and him giving up his revenge for his friends. He went from somebody who didn't care about anything but revenge, to putting that revenge away for the sake of the people he cared about.
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>>120570989
He only wanted revenge because he wanted his clan's eyes back.
He thought the Phantom Troupe knew where they were.
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>>120570940
>character trait
For one, that's a motive, not a trait. Secondly, if you had read instead of just looking at the pictures you'd see how he has changed

>He's still a useless piece of shit in the manga too. Just because the anime makes him an even bigger one doesn't make him not one.
There's a BIG difference between doing nothing and doing things but still less than others.

Plus in the election arc he talks about all of this.
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>>120571079
Read HxH.
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>>120563750
No, he has very limited range in fighting with full power. Remember that the farther you let the stand go, the weaker it gets. Same with Star Platinum.
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Reminder that Alluka is the biggest asspul; in shouen history and that Kite should've stayed dead.
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>>120571118
And his motive is the only thing that defines him. He has no character traits whatsoever.

>There's a BIG difference between doing nothing and doing things but still less than others.
Not when you're a useless piece of shit that accomplishes nothing either way.

>>120571143
Maybe you should. Or you could try to prove me wrong, but we both know that's impossible.
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>>120570940
Please tell me what else about Mereum developed besides falling in love with proto Chaika.
See>>120570986

That's why one should read the manga not the wiki as you can't judge character development from it.

Also Gon grew up fro that little boy into a person who understood the realities of the world.

Now stop your unnecessary faggotry.
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>>120571307
Nice bait.
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>>120571189
Any DB asspull is worse
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>>120571189
>this not being a bigger ass pull

also found it funny he still kept his boy voice while looking like a 30 year old buff up man. like did his vocal chords just not get boosted? lol
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>>120571477
>>this not being a bigger ass pull

What, it was foreshadowed to hell and back, however Alluka wasn't.
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>>120570494
Gon's development was done more through reveals of existing traits rather than changing over time. He seems like a kind, happy go lucky kid, then throughout the series we find out he's amoral, a bit crazy, treats Killua badly and is prone to massive tantrums when things dont go his way.

Meruem's development was beautifully done, youd have to be blind to simplify it to falling in love when it basically flipped his entire world view and reason for existing on it's head. He was born ridiculously strong with zero empathy for humans and designed for the sole purpose of ruling over everything, and in the end he says he was born to play gungi with Komugi. So good.

Kurapika's development revolves around how bad of a person he's willing to become for revenge.

Leorio is just an mc in name, he hasn't done much yet.
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>>120571189
Nothing can beat the birth of GER.
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>>120571333
Meruem never became "human". He was never even an "ant" in the first place.

He never wanted to be king or world domination, it was just what everybody else expected from him.

Literally the only thing he did was start liking his blind waifu. That was the only modification to his character.
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>>120570958

Sometimes there's a couple HxH fans lurking who like to make them, I don't have the program. I've never asked for one but I like saving them. Oh well, that scene is cool even if the movies are silly.
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>>120569090
>Is there a single thing that HxH really excels at?
Being good
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>>120570494
Here's a reply
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>>120569090
this bait gets posted in every hxh thread lol

>>120570494
this is literally copy pasta

get original faggot
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>>120571529
GER was at least foreshadowed with SCR
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>>120571189
>Kite gets eaten
>Reborn as a CA
Makes perfect sense to me
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>>120571855
Should've been reborn as the King.
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>>120571529
GER wasn't an asspull, it was just shit writing.

The arrow had been already been shown to grant additional powers to stands/users through Kira and Silver Chariot.

GER getting "lol fuck u I win xD" for its change was just garbage.
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>>120571477
>like did his vocal chords just not get boosted? lol
It's almost like that had nothing to do with the author or the source material


and it was fully mentioned that something like this would be achieve able
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>>120571546
Anon just being a homo sapien=/=human we are talking about human feelings and as the arc progressed Meruem became more and more like a human in fact more than the hunters around him.

Hell Youpi showed excellent character development, when he left Knuckle and Morel alive.

That's why I said you should read the manga rather than skimming through the wiki.
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>>120571905
The problem for me was that Diavolo got his hands on the arrow and it magically refused to give more power to him. despite the fact that he was more or less in the situation as Kira
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>>120571189
Reminder that Alluka is the biggest asspul; in shouen history

her first appearance was in the zoldyck family arc.
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>>120572060
The problem is, Requiem stands are self-aware
imagine how hard it would be to hide yourself while King Crimson Requiem goes around fucking shit up.
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>>120572138
>her
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havent read/watched the series yet, but you're telling me this is a fucking male?
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>>120572281
Yes.
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>>120572281
series is full of fagbait, what were you expecting?
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>>120572281
It's a boy.
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>>120572046
Except Mereum didn't have truly ant nor human emotions or feelings at the beginning or the end of his arc. Which is why I called him neither.

Even though he was born to be king/rule, he never truly wanted it himself, he just went along with whatever the Royal Guard was doing.

Which is why he fell in love with Komugi in the first place, he was bored as fuck with the bullshit forced on him and looking for something actually interesting to do, and Komugi gave him that.

He was inherently violent, sure, but it's not like that changed at all after falling in love with Komugi.
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>>120572281
That's a shota.
At one point there's a catgirl looking creature but it's actually a catboy.
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>>120562343
It's odd that the chakra paper test was incorporated so relatively late in the series. Shouldn't it be shinobi 101 to know what type of chakra you have and then build on whichever type it is?
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>>120572281

That's Killua's little bro
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>>120572356
>female voice
>feminine features
>acts female
>is male

>>120572312
this.
all the genders are fucked and full of lady boys.
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>>120572138
also this
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>>120572359
It seems that elemental transformation is something advanced.
Also, most of the kind seems to start with techniques of their clans rather than elemental ones(except Uchiha)
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>>120572281
of course, he's 11 years old and completely flat it cant be a girl.
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>>120572312
>implying liking traps makes you gay
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>>120572330
He was a newborn baby at the start and fully accepted all the things expected from him, it's obviously somewhat inherent for ants to feel that way (eg the way Palm became concerned for him after becoming an ant).
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The Zoldyck family is pretty dysfunctional, so none of the children are gonna turn out normal. One's a tranny, one's morbidly obese and the rest have severe mental problems as well.
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>>120572604
there isnt a term yet to call it

it's not bi/gay yet not straight either. Ive been liking traps for 10 years now yet I would still never fuck a non-trap guy. completely turns me off, so it has nothing to do with "being a phase".
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>>120572330
If you understand this then why can't you see the character development?

He completely changed during the arc,
>fighting with Netero without intending to kill him
>Not killing Welfin, Knuckle, Meleoron, Palm, Pouf.
>Understanding human emotions like love.
>Accepting his mortality despite his great power.
>Accepting to be defeated.

If this isn't character development then you're trolling
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>>120572356
pitou actually is a girl
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>>120563175
Is Netero's Bhodisvatta's thousand hands faster than Star Platinum?

To a ridiculous degree.
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>>120572777
Too bad because Silva is pretty based and seems like a well adjusted dad. He just takes the training too far, he was kind to Killua even if he was assuming he'd get his way in the end.
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>>120563175
If a better than average hunter is able to evade gunfire and the statue can strike Meruem so fast he can't even react then I'd say it's much much faster
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>>120573314
Meruem was so boring, we didn't learn any of his abilities and then he just died.
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