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Where were you when the last good sub group died?

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Where were you when the last good sub group died?
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not waiting for their suvs
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Who?
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>>111246441
>last good sub group
Let's not exaggerate.
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Who is this and why should I care?
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>Where were you when the last good sub group died?

But Anime-koi is still alive.
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On top of that, Unlimited Translation Works won't sub Unlimited Blade Works

The irony.
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>>111246596
Oh that group who rip off CR and like to make bloated karaoke?
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>>111246644
I thought their policy is to not sub shows that CR or Funishit called dibs?
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>>111246596
>anime-koi
>good
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Nise BD's never.
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>>111246533
/thread
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>>111246441
He's an encoder, not a translator.
Your point is moot.
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>>111246727
He's in charge since Raze left, the only one who keeps UTW "alive".
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>>111246696
Not really, they subbed simulcasted shows a couple of times. They are doing 2wei right now.
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>>111246796
>Chloe
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>>111246853
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend go with them either.
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>>111246645
>that group who rip off CR

That's every group
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DAIZ!!!, where are my Gekkan shoujo subs
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>>111246953
Daiz is dead.
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>>111246596
It baffles me to think there actually are people who believe this.
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>>111246953
GOD IS DEAD
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>>111246441
>fansub
>good
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>>111246758
Is that so? Honestly, I can see why most groups are already disbanding when you consider these last few years of witch hunts from Japan. Even scanlating groups are in shambles.
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>>111247156
Well in UTW's case, they all are just burned out and prioritize their real life.
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The future we all choose.
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>>111246441
Commie's still alive, anon
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>>111247288
God bless them.
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>>111247288
Not a subgroup. More like subenterprise, subcommittee, subnomenklatura, etc.
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>>111247321
More like subversive.
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Nice, more people will start streaming from legal sites like crunchyroll or netflix, that will only bring more anime to said sites and we'll all enjoy high quality streams with high quality, professional subs.
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I hope it will come to cinemas abroad.

I'd even travel to London or something to watch it.
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UTW was/is a pretty shit group. Their supporters consist of people who always make youtube-tier comments.
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>>111247403
Is it really that big outside of Japan to justify international screenings?
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>>111247432
This is every groups supporters. The internet is populated primarily by people who make youtube-tier comments and groups have very little control over who supports them.
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>>111247438
F/Z sold a boatload in America so who knows.
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But there is still Commie
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>>111247346
Better than CR, which is a subscription.
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>>111247432
What the fuck do the supporters have to do with their subbing quality?
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>>111247288
>>111247477
Based anons
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>>111247477
For Nasuverse yes, UTW and Commie are the only ones who know their shit. I believe (and hope) Commie will do both UBW and Heaven's Feel.
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Watching over their old releases. Their Angel Beats release was horrid. Anime-Koi tier.
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>Needing subs
ALL THESE PLEBS
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>>111247482
CR is a supergroup, not a subgroup.
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>>111247587
Yeah, Doki did a better job.
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If only GG was still here ;_;
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>>111247587
Their Kill Me Baby release was bad.
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>>111247597
>learning a dying language
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>>111247736
But he already knows English, anon.
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>>111247597
>learning Japanese and not Chinese
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>>111247770
Go away, weeb.
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>>111247770
In what way is English a dying language?
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>>111247813
Arab will replace English as No.1 language.
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>>111246441
>good subs
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>>111247888
>mistaking utw with underwater
>vlc
>kill la kill

Just kill yourself already.
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>>111247888
Goddamn that was a really bad line.
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>>111247885
Nice bullshit you're sprouting there
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>>111247736
>>111247782
>Impliying
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>>111247888
>He thinks UTW = Underwater.
Oh I'm chuckling.
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UTW is the most overrated subgroup ever. Normalfags love them very much.

Even gg's death was more of a loss.
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>>111247961
>being this much of a weeab
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>>111247813
every language is a dying language
stay chill anon and enjoy your ride
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Fuck UTW, what the fuck is Mazui doing these days?
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>>111248003
>UTW is the most overrated subgroup ever.

UTW did good stuff to gain its reputation. Most overrated group would be FFF.
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>>111247888
Get the fuck out, retard.
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>>111248015
cute
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>>111248040
>Fuck UTW, what the fuck is Mazui doing these days?

What was the last show they even subbed? Tamako Market?
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>>111247959
That, Chinese, or Mexican Spanish.
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>>111248034
What will we speak then, 200 years from now? Binaries?
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>>111248124
I think so and they sucked balls.
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>>111248040
still being shit
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>>111248168
Please don't blame the show's quality on the group.
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>>111248244
>show's quality
They didn't make great subs anon
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>>111248244
Besides that, their subs were pretty bad for Tamako Market.
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>>111248040
Waiting for Hyouka S2
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Who will sub 4.0 now?
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>>111248428
well call me Mazui then

;_;
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>>111247288
>>111247477
The only reason to watch commie is for their hilariously visually distracting typesetting. The translations are shit and will always be shit.
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>>111248519
>The translations are shit and will always be shit.
looks like you don't watch Commie
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>>111248519

Commie still did a better job on Haikyuu than CR did.
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>good sub group

Watch the latest episode of Prisma Illya and say that again.
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>>111247288
Disgusting.
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>>111248519
>The translations are shit and will always be shit.

Not really, it depends a lot in the show and staff working on it. After a while, you'll know which release avoid and which don't.
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Thora are still around right?
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>>111248598
What's wrong? The Cartel A+ committee judges it wrong and spills the spaghetti?
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>>111248684
>implying there's a cartel
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>>111248658
Kind of, they finished Gundam UC a month ago or so.
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>>111248705
The Cartel is disbanded?
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>>111248590
Both groups had bad translations usually involving terminology shit but commies was a lot better than CR. Too bad they were like 3 weeks behind at one point
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>>111248705
>Implying there isn't
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>>111248750
There never was one to begin with.
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>>111246441
Daiz will forever survive until he dies of his baldiness, so the last good subgroup will forever prevail.
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>>111248834
daiz isn't in commie though
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>>111248684
UTW did a fine job for the first season that's why they got instablue for the second season but, so far, CR is doing a better job with it.
Everything UTW does gets A+ anyway, so it really doesn't matter if they did good in the first season.
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>>111248834
Daiz is not in Commie, anon
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>>111248872
>
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>>111248879
How is CR doing a better job?
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>>111248775
I won't ask its existence again. I still value my life.
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>>111248915
They got the character names right for instance.
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>>111248933
Not sure what your life has to do with fifty strangers translating cartoons
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>>111246441
I was on my way to school with toast in my mouth when senpai called

"Sub is kill"

"no"
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>>111248125
>Mexican Spanish.
Easily the best sounding Spanish, god bless Mexicans for actually speaking the language without sounding retarded.
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>>111248872
>>111248897
Daiz is just an encoder, and an active figure in the community. He will come and go, like it has always been for everyone else.
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>>111248590
Fuck CR's lazy job on Haikyuu.
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>>111248598
>that "crow" bit
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>>111249006
I don't know how that work in context
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>>111248459
Thora
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>>111249061
Retards think CR is doing the "for you" meme.
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>>111248459
coalgirls
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>>111249000
"chinga tu madre cabron"
Mexican spanish is the worst kind of spanish. Their accent is shit too.
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>>111249147
No, thanks.
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>>111249155
Vete a la chingada, puto.
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>>111249155
I bet you think Spaniard spanish is good, poor lost soul.
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>>111248459
Funimation, of course.
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>>111249242
Why would a studio sub another studio's movie?
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>>111249147
But who will sub it?

>>111249207
I don't like their accent most of the times, but if we talk about it.

>Paises irrelevantes de centroamérica
>Uruguay
>Colombia
>Chile
>España
>Paraguay
>Argentina
>Mexico
>Venezuela
>Perú
>The rest
>Bolivia
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>>111248459
Commie
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>>111249305
They might use retail again
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>>111249277
They were trying to grab Funimation's prize
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>>111249277
They're the subscribed licensor.
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>>111249277
Funimation is not an studio.
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>>111249335
I can't really see them doing it.
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>>111249305
>centroamérica
>Uruguay
>Colombia
>Chile
>España
>Paraguay
>Argentina
>Mexico
>Venezuela
>Perú
>The rest
>Bolivia
>centroamérica
>CENTROAMERICA
Nigger what the fuck are you smoking?
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>>111249377
Don't know why they would want to either
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>>111248459
I will
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>>111249391
Good point.
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I will only move to CR/HS when their "professional" subs surpass fansubs.
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>>111249380
That happens when you don't go to school anon.
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>>111249399
>anon subs a two hour movie
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>>111249380
They speak like mexicans, but without the stupid accent/funny words
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>>111249305
>But who will sub it?

They'll use R1 most likely, so, just avoid them as usual.
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I really wouldnt be too mad about subgroups giving up as long as there was at least a competent group to sub (at a decent speed) Funimation shows.

Nowadays for funimation shows you either get a fansub 5 days late or you get a glorious funimation encode. So sad
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>>111249510
That's because for FUNimation they have to transcribe and retime the script line by line and that takes time and they are lazy.
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>>111249485
Mexico isn't even Central America, it's part North America.
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>>111248945
I only watched episode 2 of 2wei with both groups, but I remember HS butchering the line when Rin and Luvia laughed and made fun of Kuro falling into the swamp trap.
It barely made sense.
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Is there really no regeneration within the community? People are talking like this is a shit situation for the fansubbing community. Or is this because I'm on /a/?
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>>111249588
Yeah, that's why mexico is also in the list.
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>>111249625
>Or is this because I'm on /a/?

Exactly.
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>>111249625
You're on /a/, where no one is well-versed in Japanese or English. Besides, the fansubbing community has always been small.
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>>111249695
>You're on /a/, where no one is well-versed in Japanese or English.
Hox.
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>>111249657
>>111249695
I take it that you're fansubbers, right? Why are you on /a/ then?
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>>111249763
>I take it that you're fansubbers, right?
No, just rational
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>>111249763
I'm not but it's not hard to see how the scene really is.
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>>111249625
I think CR is a major "problem" for the fansubbing community.
CR does a decent to good job with most of their subs and with HS we can have rips just a short time after the show aired in japan.
A lot of fansub groups don't even translate anymore, they just give the CR script another TL check, correct some minor mistakes and use a better RAW.
Real fansubbing is very rare nowadays. Even if we hate it - If CR suddenly died we'd be in a lot of trouble.
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>>111249740
Out of many, one
Part of /a/, yet different from /a/
Two beings in one substance,
etc.
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>>111249625
>Is there really no regeneration within the community?

It sure seems like there's very little.
Maybe it's because anime isn't as popular in the west anymore as it was 10 years ago.
Maybe it's because of CR and people feel like new subgroups just aren't needed. I don't know.
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>>111249929
>Maybe it's because anime isn't as popular in the west anymore as it was 10 years ago.

Not even close to accurate
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>>111249625
There is, but of course there are fluctuations as the years go by. I think currently the fansub community is getting smaller and there are a lot of factors to contribute:

We come from a sort of golden era of fansub which began its downfall around the appearance of simulcast
Simulcast deters a lot of people from subbing, even people who already do fansubs
The entry barrier for fansubbing is somewhat higher now, i.e. Diaz//a//the community will shit on you if your release is not somewhat on the same level as currently established groups

So maybe we're entering a Dark Age of fansubbing, but to be honest is not that bad. I mean, I used to think the translation had to be accurate, but really 99% of the time it doesn't matter.
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>>111249859

It would take a couple weeks for new sub groups to come out if CR died and stopped doing all the translating.
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>>111250034
/a/ doesn't have an influence on fansubbing
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>>111250034
We need a scapegoat to crucify and bring this dark age to an end. I elect Raze since he's not here anymore.
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>>111249929
Well we had CCC for One Piece, but then he got a real job as a translator somewhere and his boss got real mad finding out his involvement in MR/PM.
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>>111250009
I obviously don't know about the situation in america, but in my country it feels like the weeaboo times are over. 10 years ago all the kids were talking about anime in school. Now it's back to being that hobby for nerds and manchildren.
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>>111250149
what country is that
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>>111250034
>Diaz//a//the community
I never know why /a/ is always put on the pedestal, somehow looks as an important community, when most of the time it looks shit. /a/ only contribute like 5% and the rest 95% are shit-flinging self-masturbatory masochism.

Maybe I should lurk the fuck moar but oh well.
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>>111250227
/a/ is just very vocal
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>>111247888

average kill la kill fan
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UTW died long ago.
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>>111250087
How many people do you think browse /a/? Now look at the number of downloads of anime torrents
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>>111250294
forgot your >
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>>111250303
/a/ doesnt watch anime dude
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>>111250294
staph
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>>111250087
Not sure if influential, but /a/'s and Reddit's opinions are the ones fansubbers care about the most.
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>>111250315

but he's not quoting anyone
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>>111250303
>How many people do you think browse /a/?
Less than 2000

>Now look at the number of downloads of anime torrents
People outside of /a/ know what Nyaa is
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who the fuck is Diaz?
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Oh look, fagsubbers are shitposting in this thread, like they're funny or anything.
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>>111246758
Then UTW died back when Raze stepped down; ar__ is literally an egotistical piece of shit.
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>>111250343
>Not sure if influential, but /a/'s and Reddit's opinions are the ones fansubbers care about the most.
Yeah that's why Commie doesn't put jokes in their subs anymore
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>>111250373
>Less than 2000
Fucking no. /a/ has HUGE traffic, but not every person who goes in here actually posts and engages in the community.
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>>111250445
Just post it from Foolz.
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>>111250419
UTW died long before that though.

>ar__ is literally an egotistical piece of shit

How so?

>>111250440
They toned that shit down a lot in the last two years though.
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>>111250445
I was referring to posters. I imagine there are a few thousand more lurking. /a/'s popular, but not really.
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Some things will go without subs, some things /a/ will sub, same every season. Isn't the only subs for Yama no Susume this season some guy from here?

>>111250411
Make sure you say the keywords to get flagged by Commie's bot.
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herkz a shit
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>>111250501
>Isn't the only subs for Yama no Susume this season some guy from here?

Yeah and they are horrible, but at least he's trying I guess.
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>>111250445
Actually, the number of posters has decreased in the last two months
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>>111250501
>>111250533
What is Doki.
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>>111250634
Don't wanna go against the Cartel.
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Heh
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>>111250533
I thought they were ok? I only watched the first though.

>>111250634
Slow
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>>111250634
A really shit group but they can't be worse than this guy. I forgot they were subbing it too, I will give them a chance.
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>>111246441

If he is a translator why does he have to watch it with subtitles anyway?
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>>111250808
He's an encoder and the guy running UTW right now.
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>>111250865

Pff, UTW is shit anyway, pretty much as dead as Mazui.
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>>111250898
Still better than a trash NEET like you.
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>>111250930
why did you insult him
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>>111250959
Because he insulted his favorite group.
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>>111247978

Maybe he thought he thought it was Under (the) water.

I don't even
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>>111252034
People make that mistake all the time
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>>111252074

No less dumb than alot or could care less.
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>>111250350
>>>/jp/
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>>111247432
>UTW was/is a pretty shit group. Their supporters consist of people who always make youtube-tier comments

There's no need to have fansub groups when there are so few actual anime fans left. Most people are anime consumers and are not anime fans. You can tell by their disdain for people who altruistically do fansubs that they are consumers and not fans.

I don't blame all those people who quit or those who refuse to take up the task of fansubbing to serve the ungrateful people.
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>>111249625

It's not as fucked up as the scanlation scene. Never will be.
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>>111252805
In other words, you're not an anime fan if you don't suck fansubbers dicks.
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>>111250009
>Not even close to accurate

Early 00s was the closest anime got to becoming mainstream, as much as Attack on Titan and SAO would lead you to believe.
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>>111252805
>editing
>whiners.pro
Why?
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>>111252816
Turnip Farmers alone carries the weight of an entire sub group or three.
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>>111250375

Lurk moar.
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>>111250373
>>111250303
>How many people do you think browse /a/?
>Less than 2000
moot said that the vast majority of daily visitors never post.
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>>111246441
But it died right after R2 ended, koda said so. Are you a slowking?
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>>111252805

I thought Eclipse were supposed to be high-tier sub group. Or was that a long time ago.
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>>111253105
Only weebs and nostalgiafags think so.
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>>111253081

moot also said captcha was temporary and that traffic doesn't change much during summer. He's full of shit.
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So many groups have come and gone over the years ;_;
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>>111253146
>traffic doesn't change much during summer.
That's actually true
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Remember when Daiz was alive?
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>>111253154
I know this is old as fuck but I just realized the guy didn't make a connection between Chihiro and gg.
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>>111252860
>>111252805
>>111253154
There's no need for gratitude to fansubbers. They fansub for their enjoyment or to educate themselves in the process in case they seek employment at a media company such as crunchyroll. So they have been rewarded already.

Being grateful to fansubbers is like being grateful to whoever makes your toilet paper or whoever havested the lettuce in your salad. Who cares about those people? If those people quit, someone else will take up the job. That's how it has always been and will be in the future.
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>>111254258
really anon
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i like subs thx
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Don't worry guys, [WinD], [ayu] and [yesy] will come back and save fansubbing from these dark times.
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>>111255240

Don't forget [your-mom]
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>>111254258
>Being grateful to fansubbers is like being grateful to whoever makes your toilet paper or whoever havested the lettuce in your salad. Who cares about those people? If those people quit, someone else will take up the job. That's how it has always been and will be in the future.

That's the practical 4chan way. I refuse to suck fansubber epeen.
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>>111252805
>whiners.pro

That's some old shit.
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>>111257611
It's from 2 years ago at least.
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>>111254258

The problem is that the new groups appearing in the place of the good ones are shit. DameDesuYo, Anime-Koi, Watakushi, all garbage.
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>There are Anons out there who unironically like Commie
Well yeah I'd understand if you are some sort of faggot who doesn't know much about subs and just goes for whatever seems to have more seeds, but otherwise I'd rather watch raws and have a very basic idea of what's going on rather than watch Commieshit
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>>111257735
Well, obviously, because D_S lost that domain in the summer of '12.

That chart is hardly relevant anymore.
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>>111257924
If Commie is the only proper release, they've barely edited the CR script, and added proper typesetting and song TL, why not use them?

Are you also one of those people who prefer original TLs over simulcast edits all the time, even if that means choosing some deadshit group that doesn't know English?
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>>111247398
>legal sites like crunchyroll or netflix
>professional subs
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>>111258007
I'd only take Commie as long as they barely touch the CR script and don't go overboard with the memes and the typesetting. Maybe I overreacted but I've had way too many bad experiences with Commie.

>>111258099
Speaking of, what kind of subs do Netflix use for their anime? I suppose they use CR subs, right?
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>>111258099
Once again a person who doesn't know the definition for "professional".
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>>111258099
They are professional. Doesn't mean they're good at their jobs, though.
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>>111250087
Wrong.
I remember when they pissed off a.f.k. so much he stopped subbing, and this was someone who single-handedly subbed haruhi (at a professional level) and managed to release each episode inside 24 hours, which was a small miracle back then.
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why are you guys so worried?
minnasubs is here to save fansubbing!
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>>111257924
nice to know professional fansubber
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>>111248769
They are now nearly 12 episodes behind.

>>111250114
>ccc got a job
No fucking wonder PM haven't released anything for weeks, what a shame.

>>111250930
Defending a group which reaped donations, quit and won't bother translating their namesake anime, is pretty stupid at this point.

>>111260404
HSleader gets ass-blasted when people post with alternate CR rips.
Pretty funny considering he hates the thought of others having monopoly (might lose his bitcoin revenue).
He really does take pride in his garbage CR rips.
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>>111261032
>HSleader gets ass-blasted when people post with alternate CR rips.

He doesn't give a shit, 95% of the leechers will still download HS when they are available.
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I notice how no one ever mentions deadfish. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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>>111261311
They are indisputably the best so, not worth mentioning them.
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>>111261311
I think it's an excellent thing. No point in discussing the best.
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>>111261032
>won't bother translating their namesake anime, is pretty stupid at this point
Why the fuck does everyone say this? They formed to sub the MOVIE 3 years ago. They've explicitly stated that everything else is just gravy.
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Hey /a/, I'm here to save subtitles
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>>111246441
http://youtu.be/WqukWXviyew?t=1m
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what happened to rori?
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>>111265323
Merged with FFF
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>>111265344
Weren't they mostly FFF members to begin with?
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>>111265390
Pretty sure that was the case
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>>111246441
THORA's still releasing things last I checked.
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>>111247156
>Even scanlating groups are in shambles.

Business as usual then.
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>>111257924
I watched commie for Haikyuu because the CR subs are literally Hadena level bad.
They even manage to get the names of characters wrong, and moon speakers have pointed out that every other scene has an enormous mistranslation in it.
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>>111265502
and ANE is back too
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>>111265636
>people get paid for this shit
>people pay to watch this shit
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>>111265636
Good thing Haikyuu is a trash show
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I'm still waiting on my SYD subs
UTW a shit and I hate them
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>>111265730
What's wrong with it? It's a really good sports show with great animation and music in my opinion.
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>>111265654
Not really.
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>>111265799
They released something not too long ago
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>>111265726
Did they just hire the Hadena guys?
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>>111265868
I know, it doesn't mean they're back for good.
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Even if CR Translations aren't godawful, the company itself is so you should never pay them.

Fortunately, most of their releases are middling to bad, so the urge to sub never arises.
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>>111265901
It's not just the translator, the typesetters and timers are shit too, lines scene bleed constantly and shit like this happens a lot, with the team names typeset the wrong way around.
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>>111266005
Oh and some lines are typeset for way too long, lasting about 20 seconds after the sign has gone off screen.
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>>111266055
>that banding
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>>111265726
Don't forget they helped kill mangatraders for good.
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>>111266223
that was a ruse
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>>111265730
to you
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>>111265654
Nope, they are getting rid of old projects. Apparently, SoreMachi will be the next and last one.
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RIP UnderTheWater.

RIP herkz and raze.

They will be remembered for their subtitles of Attack the Titan and Jo la Jo.
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>>111266568
>They will be remembered for their subtitles of Attack the Titan

You mean The Eotena Onslaught.
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>>111266568
And nothing of value was lost that day
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>>111247736
>Makes excuses for not wanting to learn the language spoken in the world's 3rd largest economy.
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But eclipse died ages ago.
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>>111266621
Still don't know why people got mad about it
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>>111266963
2010 was only four years ago
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>>111253081
>>111250445
Why the fuck do people not post?
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>>111267713
>posting on /a/
Sounds great
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>>111267713
We probably don't want these people to post anyway
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>>111266982
Because they like intelligible subtitles over some English major trying to make himself feel smart maybe?
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>>111267936
>intelligible subtitles
'Eotena' is a valid word to use
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>>111267979
Commie pls.
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Why do people even care about subtitles? A decent translation is good enough, what real otaku cares about is the quality of the video, subs are for casuals.
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>>111268188
It's a problem to care about what the characters are saying? Also,
>real otaku
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>>111268188
>real otaku
Such as yourself?
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>>111268188
>real otaku

Don't you have an anime club meeting to get to?
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>>111268188
>real otaku
You can't be serious.
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>>111268188
>real otaku
You don't seriously think of this as a positive term, do you?
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>>111268321
No, my backlog is too big to leave the house.
>>111268280
>a decent translation is good enough
>>111268308
Not talking about you for sure.
>>111268479
>>111268511
>what is exaggeration?
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>>111268678
>No, my backlog is too big to leave the house.

Just so long as you leave here.
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>>111268678
>>what is exaggeration?
Not what you pulled off
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Hi guys. Anime-Koi is still pretty good, and Doki, but I really liked Mazui and I wish they'd come back and provide a sufficiently autistic alternative. Those are my opinions on fansubs.
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Oh I guess UTW is decent too. Underwater has it in them to be A-tier but then they always make some stupid localization decision that ruins the whole script (sweats club).
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>>111269028
>localize one line
>ruins the whole script
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>>111269028
What about vivid? They're good and even got a .moe domain.
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>>111269108

Commie+
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>>111268188
Is that you?
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>>111269028
>sweats club

That was Commie, Underwater had Jersey Club.

But on the other hand, they still haven't finished the show in question.
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>>111269108
Vivid is weird. When they co-release with EveTaku they're pretty good, but I seem to recall their solo releases not standing up. Same thing is true of Hiryuu, now that I think of it.
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>>111269173
Yeah, I'm bottom left ;)
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>>111265901
>Hadena
It's like you don't even remember how bad Hadena were.
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>>111269247
Vivid has been mostly good, their joint with EveTaku wasn't anything special.
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>>111269173
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>>111269160
http://unanimated.xtreemhost.com/commie-vs-vivid.htm
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>>111269196
Imagine I posted this, then.

Also they can't finish RnL S2 because it doesn't exist. The studio decided to take some time to write something that was true to the characters and had an interesting plot.
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>>111269624
she looks like someone who would talk like that
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>>111246441

>Where were you when the last good sub group died?

Honestly, I don't care.

The biggest problem with anime releases: All those sub-groups are created for /a/ and his elitism (10bits, honorifics, Daiz). Meanwhile Horriblesubs/CR/Deadfish want pander all the fans.
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>>111269930
/a/ isn't responsible for any of the established groups
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>>111269624
>mixing up pirate and hick speak
How do you even fuck up this badly?
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>>111270373
One of the retards on TL duty came up with the line as a "joke" and everyone thought it was hilarious and Daiz stood by it until /a/ bullied him into admitting it was dumb and taking it out of the batch release.
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>>111270488
Here he is crying because /a/ won't stop bringing it up and attempting to shift blame
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>>111270620
>10 Apr 2014
You've got to be kidding
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>>111269247
The only EveTaku member in that joint was lyger. He was also the only reason some EveTaku releases were good. He has pretty much stopped translating though and any releases he's not translating tend to be quite bad.
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>>111270488
>batch release
We're still waiting for that, aren't we.
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>>111270791
And the OVAs.
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>>111269485
They are just like FFF, they did some good jobs here and there but they are overrated as fuck, their levels of localization are almost Commie-tier and the only difference are the honorifics (and they are sometimes removed).
I could give two shits about the inside of the group and how better is unanimated as a leader.
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>>111271858
>their levels of localization are almost Commie-tier
Do you really hate localization that much?
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>>111269930
>Deadfish
You don't know what deadfish is are you?
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>>111271912
Go seek out the thread that screencap is from, in amongst the general shit-flinging is a lot of decent argumentation for and against localization and the specificities thereof.

Or we could always just have the same argument all over again! I'll start: "Itadakimasu" should always be left as-is, because it's used as a "set piece" in conversation and not necessarily for the dictionary meaning of the words. We have no direct equivalent of this tradition in the west aside from saying grace, which is a wholly separate cultural affair and would not work as a substitution. However, "Tadaima" and "Okaeri" should always be translated, because calling out "I'm home" and being acknowledged or welcomed back is a very common and familiar practice, which is also directly equivalent.
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>>111272281
>We have no direct equivalent of this tradition in the west aside from saying grace
That actually is the direct equivalent
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Why do people think Commie is a bad sub group?

Their Monogatari and Symphogear work was great.

UTW are lazy faggots who haven't finished SSY in years.
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>>111272459
No it's not, it's tied explicitly to the christian faith which would make the usage of the ritual immensely out of place in Japanese anime and a misrepresentation of what the characters are doing. However, if you really wanted, you could put "TL note: Japanese equivalent of saying grace".
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>>111272459
No it's not.

Itadakimasu honours the food for being there, whereas Grace honours God for putting it there.
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>>111272553
>Why do people think Commie is a bad sub group?
Some people cannot take a joke, even if it's just playing around with typesetting
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>>111272553
Because it's easier and funnier to stick with their bad releases, just like people has been hating a lot on UTW and Underwater in the last few months despite having done top notch releases in the past.
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>>111272612
>>111272629
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saying_grace

>Grace is a name for any of a number of short prayers said or an unvoiced intention held prior to or after eating, thanking God and/or the entities that have given of themselves to furnish nutrients to those partaking in the meal.
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>>111272553
Shitsekai Yaoi is garbage for idiots, no one should watch it, and Commie ruined Symphogear.
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>>111272629

What if food is my god
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>>111272693
>in the last few months
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>was in kitchen
>making sandwhich
>fone ring
>UTW is kill
>no ;_;
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>>111272722

But it had more yuri than yaoi.
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>>111272796
Yes, UTW since last year easily, and the hate against Underwater grew exponentially since Kill la Kill.
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>Other pre-meal sayings
>In Japan it is customary to put one's hands together and say "Itadakimasu"

It's a separate practice, a separate tradition, and a separate meaning. The real question is whether "Gochisousama-deshita" should be translated or not (yes) (it should be translated to "what a meal!" or "that was delicious!" etc).
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>>111272888
No it didn't, the girls were just sluts and that's Different.
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How would you translate OIISSHIIIIII?
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>>111273055
'Tasty"
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>>111273055
I probably wouldn't, but if I did I'd go with "delicious" or "tasty" depending on the speaker. If you translate it to "yummy" or "delish" or anything stupid like that then you should be rounded up and shot.
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>>111273055
"Yummy!"

anyone disagree?
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>>111273055
Tasty or delicious

>>111273130
>If you translate it to "yummy" or "delish"
Those could be fine too
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>>111273055
Ayy nigga, this's the shit, yo
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ITT: plebs still needing subs
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>>111273216
No! It wouldn't be okay, because those are slang terms or abbreviations! If the character is using normal Japanese, you should translate their words into normal English. I hope you die.
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>>111273361
>those are slang terms or abbreviations
Yes, because everyone in Japan speaks in a strict, literal manner.
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>>111273216
>yummy
>fine

>this is why we can't have nice things.jpg
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>>111272938
Why not "Thanks for the food!"?
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>>111273055

>It's like there's a party in my mouth, and everyone's invited!
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>>111273449
That's what "Itadakimasu" means.
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>>111273449

Why not "Rub a dub dub thanks for the grub?"
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>>111273055
Scrumptious
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>>111273449

This. One has to be retarded not to be able to translate formal English into whatever suits their retarded minds in their own heads. Having sub groups do it for them just dumbs down the whole practice.
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>>111273434
They are when they use one single word in its correct pronunciation in its culturally-defined place. Why would you introduce slang where there was none to start? If the character's tone indicates a casual feeling, then let the viewer figure that out whilst also getting the dictionary definition of the word the character said.
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>>111273561
>They are when they use one single word in its correct pronunciation in its culturally-defined place.
They don't have multiple words to say one thing like English. So it's kind of necessary to translate accordingly because 'tasty' might not necessarily fit the person speaking.

>Why would you introduce slang where there was none to start?
That's not the case all the time.

> If the character's tone indicates a casual feeling, then let the viewer figure that out whilst also getting the dictionary definition of the word the character said.
Or you could translate it as it was said, because that's the point of a translation.
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>>111273708
>because 'tasty' might not necessarily fit the person speaking.

According to YOUR view. For others, it may be fine because their brains can process "that character is expressing his/her thought on the food and it tastes good."

Translation =/= localization for slow retards.
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>>111273708
>Or you could translate it as it was said, because that's the point of a translation.
Yes, you would then translate the word "oishii" into an english word of the same meaning, without adding any other connotations. The viewer can figure out if a little girl is saying it cutely (where one might put "delish!" if one was a particularly terrible human being") or if a hardened thug is growling out his appreciation (where certain people have been known to go for "this shit is tasty!" or similar).
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>>111273829
>For others, it may be fine because their brains can process "that character is expressing his/her thought on the food and it tastes good."
Then what would be the point of subbing it if you already understand?
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>>111273958
You can't understand what "tasty" means? Good grief.

"Tasty"/"Delicious" is neutral; "yummy"/"delish" is not.
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>>111273918
>>Or you could translate it as it was said, because that's the point of a translation
>Yes, you would then translate the word "oishii" into an english word of the same meaning, without adding any other connotations.
You would add connotations to translate it 'as it was said'.
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>>111273958
Because a gap in the subtitles is jarring when you are expecting to read along with the lines on screen.
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>>111272722
The kindergarten is that way.
>>>/out/
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>>111274062
No you wouldn't. A character eats a thing, and says a Japanese word whilst looking pleased. The fansubs say "It's great!" or "delicious!". You now know what the character said, and can get the tone and emotion from the animation and voice acting.
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>>111274036
>You can't understand what "tasty" means? Good grief.
I'm saying it isn't always apt.

>"Tasty"/"Delicious" is neutral; "yummy"/"delish" is not.
You don't always use 'tasty' to describe a food, and the same applies in dialogue.
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>>111274138
Everything in that post is 100% true
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>>111274154
>You now know what the character said, and can get the tone and emotion from the animation and voice acting.
There's nothing wrong with a fitting translation to go with that.
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>>111274036
Yummy and tasty are equally neutral.
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>>111269173
>everyone in the back looks normal/good
Always gets me.
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>>111274236
>>111274156

This is why there are people who can't into moon after years of anime. It's actually because they don't listen and rely on subs so hard.
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>>111274156
There are options. For example, to convey surprise you could translate "oishii" as "oh, it's good!". The key is not using words that are "loaded" with secondary meanings and implications, in order to preserve accuracy.
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>>111272722
>Shitsekai Yaoi is garbage
I can kinda agree with that. I found it to be quite shit. Probably because of this little shit.
>Commie ruined Symphogear
How so?
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>>111274350
He's just trying to fit in, ignore him.
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>>111274336
Unless they're called for
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>>111274350
>How so?
They subbed it
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>>111274350
I really disliked the characters in SSY, and they were the only thing that could have redeemed it. The concept was neat, but the reality was just awful. It was worse than Coppelion.

Commie repeatedly used unfitting lines for the situation at hand, added profanities where none were indicated, and at times wholly changed the meaning of a character's line in order to "flow" better. It was absolutely unwatchable.
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>>111274562
>added profanities where none were indicated
how do you know this
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>>111273449

What if they're by themselves? Who are they saying it to?
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>>111273055
>Onii-chan, the taste of the fresh cum coming out of your dick in my little mouth while I tickle it with my tongue is astoundingly delicious!
I dare you to find a better translation.
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>>111274432
Yes, if the character in question mispronounced or changed the form of "oishii" then an argument could be made for using a slang term. However, I would leave the latter case unmentioned (any viewer who notices and cares about a character's vocal tic already knows what's up) and translate the former straight, with possibly a TL note if it's not immediately mentioned that the character misspoke.

And if there's a pun I'd just leave it as close to as-is as possible and provide a note explaining what the pun was and why the Japanese aren't funny.
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>>111274623
My grorious nippon language doesn't rely on insults.
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>>111274202
Yes. If you mean mine.
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>>111274657

It doesn't change the fact that it's Japanese customary to Gochisosama with no one there.
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But anon, FFF and Coalgirls are still alive.
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>>111274562
>and at times wholly changed the meaning of a character's line in order to "flow" better

I watched Symphogear with Commie and I don't remember this, mind to post screenshots?
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>>111274696
>translate the former straight, with possibly a TL note if it's not immediately mentioned that the character misspoke.
Really, at that point, you should just translate it with a fitting connotation

>And if there's a pun I'd just leave it as close to as-is as possible and provide a note explaining what the pun was and why the Japanese aren't funny.
I hope you're joking about the first half of this.
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>>111274623
Because I speak just enough weaboo jap to tell when a common line is obviously mistranslated yet not enough to watch raws. I also know that Japanese does not have any profane words, as such, and I know that the writers would never have intended Hibiki to say "fuck".
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>>111274771
Who are you trying to trick?
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>>111274816
>Really, at that point, you should just translate it with a fitting connotation
I guess you could go with "Tathty!" or something, but I'd rather just let the context carry it.
>I hope you're joking about the first half of this.
Completely serious. Fansubbers have no business trying to replace jokes with humor of their own; it's invariably cringeworthy and more immersion-breaking than just amalgamating two english words and adding a note so the viewer understands why the character said that.
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>>111274837
>Because I speak just enough weaboo jap to tell when a common line is obviously mistranslated yet not enough to watch raws.
And you conveniently know the lines where Commie translated part of the dialogue with curse words

>I also know that Japanese does not have any profane words, as such, and I know that the writers would never have intended Hibiki to say "fuck".
I don't think you know Japanese
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>>111274837
Are you dumb? You're watching american localized subtitles.
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>>111274980
>I guess you could go with "Tathty!" or something, but I'd rather just let the context carry it.
You translate with context in mind when it comes to Japanese.

>Completely serious. Fansubbers have no business trying to replace jokes with humor of their own
That doesn't always happen.

>it's invariably cringeworthy and more immersion-breaking than just amalgamating two english words and adding a note so the viewer understands why the character said that.
And exactly how is the joke supposed to be funny when you explain it in a note? Even having to leave a note breaks immersion on its own.
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>>111274987
If you think "kuso" equates to one of english's four letter words then I will hunt you down and shit right in your mouth

And if you think "teme" or "kisama" indicates anything stronger than maybe "bastard" then the same thing goes.
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>>111274562
>SSY was worse than coppelion

it's time to stop posting
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>>111275131

You're right, but

>>>/d/
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>>111275038
No I'm not. I try to watch good subs, to avoid American localization.
>>111275125
>And exactly how is the joke supposed to be funny when you explain it in a note? Even having to leave a note breaks immersion on its own.
It might not be funny, but it will be correct. Given that the options of "unfunny and correct" or "unfunny and wrong", I'll take the former every time.
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>>111275131
>If you think "kuso" equates to one of english's four letter words then I will hunt you down and shit right in your mouth
Hilarious, because "kuso" does mean shit.
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>>111275131
Holy shit, pick up a book, ? can easily be translated as "shit!" or "fuck!". Also, depending on the situation, this can also be applicable to ???? and ??.
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>>111275131

So this is an inaccurate translation?
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>>111275210
>but it will be correct
You can't completely translate jokes?

>Given that the options of "unfunny and correct" or "unfunny and wrong", I'll take the former every time.
Except I doubt you could make the decision given your bias against localization
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>>111275210
>No I'm not. I try to watch good subs, to avoid American localization.

Even R1 localizes, you'd be better off studying japanese.
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Is it sad to say that I would prefer HSubs over anything, every other sub group feels like they take days to do everything and I just feel so impatient.
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>>111275151
It was though. Coppelion was fun and interesting; even if it was kind of stupid and wasn't the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. adaptation with cute girls a lot of people were hoping for it was at least enjoyable and (by and large) pleasant.

SSY was full of unlikeable characters who were supposed to be "relatable" because they had ludicrous SUFFERING backstories or "human" because they acted like giant shitheads. Pair this with the eye-rolling-est setting going since the epic post-apocalyptic grimdark road warrior pictures you drew in your notebook in sixth grade and you get a recipe for pure shit.
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>>111275301
No, it doesn't. It refers to feces but does not carry the cultural connotations of "shit" or "fuck"
>>111275262
It can be, but it would be wrong. It would be doubly wrong given the context.
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>>111275389
You're downloading streams, and you don't care about improved quality in any area because you don't like to wait
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>>111275485
>It can be, but it would be wrong.
How? That's what it means.

>It would be doubly wrong given the context.
And what was that context?
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>>111275485
>It refers to feces but does not carry the cultural connotations of "shit" or "fuck"

Yeah, every time someone says "kuso" they are talking about feces and totally not saying a profanity.
Anon, please, stop being dumb.
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>>111275485
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>>111275594
The context was, as I recall, a cute highschool girl who throughout the series is portrayed as the very embodiment of naivete, innocence, and friendship, getting frustrated and saying "kuso". (I haven't watched the first season in a long time).

While an American character might use "shit" or "fuck" in such a context, we are not watching American characters and it is, to me, important to preserve some of the distinctions.
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>>111275389
Yet those fags use leopard raws and do a horrible job with their translation.
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>>111275746
>The context was, as I recall, a cute highschool girl who throughout the series is portrayed as the very embodiment of naivete, innocence, and friendship, getting frustrated and saying "kuso". (I haven't watched the first season in a long time).
>getting frustrated and saying "kuso"
surely she said poop out of frustration
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>>111275746
And a japanese character would never say what you read in the subtitles because they speak japanese, you're just retarded.
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>>111275722
i.e a generally inoffensive fecal-related word used to express frustration or an object of poor quality.
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>>111275833
She said "damn!", a slightly uncouth word used to express frustration that is nonetheless not hugely offensive to any but the absolute most prudish members of society.
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>>111275888
This only proves that it can and was used to say "shit".
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>>111269930
>honorifics
I will never get why people have problem with it.
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>>111267713
Because simply following the discussion can be interesting enough in itself?
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>>111275955
She said ?, not ????.
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>>111276004
I bet a thousand naira that none of them even know what all of them mean
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>>111274837
>Because I speak just enough weaboo jap to tell when a common line is obviously mistranslated yet not enough to watch raws.
It's truly the greatest suffering.
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>>111276054

And you care, why?

It can be left in. It's even in "-" form for retards to get or neglect. For it has no direct counterparts in the English language, it harms no one keeping it in.
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>>111275987
Some argument could be made for a deliberately loutish character to have the same word translated as "shit", but I still wouldn't do it since "kuso" simply doesn't carry the same weight socially.

I will never concede this point. Profanities are always incorrect unless the character literally says the word in question in the language it originates from. I will stand here like Benkei and deny every attempt to claim otherwise.
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>>111276122
It can be left out too.
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>>111276131
>but I still wouldn't do it since "kuso" simply doesn't carry the same weight socially.
Please tell you're not serious, because this thread has revealed that it does.

>I will never concede this point. Profanities are always incorrect unless the character literally says the word in question in the language it originates from. I will stand here like Benkei and deny every attempt to claim otherwise.
pic related
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>>111265734
It's never happening.

They've all but admitted they won't work on it anymore. Translator stopped because he didn't like the show, and everyone else is apathetic towards getting someone else to do the show. They don't have any obligation to do it (they don't have any literal obligation, at least, and don't see a reason to do finish it for the people who want a decent release).

I've been checking everyday, since well before they finally released episode 11. It hurts.
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>>111276041
Shimatta is literally "oh my!" or "oh goodness!". It's an absolutely normal thing to say even in polite situations.
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>>111276252
Hadena please go.
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>>111276252
why is so hilarious when /a/ discusses Japanese
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>>111276142

It can be left out. What I can't stand is groups straight converting "-san" to Mr or Miss and then leaving out counterparts for "-chan" or "-kun".
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>>111276292
The literal translation is "a thing happened". It's a normal word that is often used to convey surprise.
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>>111276340
Because the people who knows the least about something are the ones who are loudest and most adamant about it.

And laughing at idiots are funny because schadenfreude is a thing.
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>>111276393
Laruffii pls.
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>>111276379
>leaving out counterparts for "-chan" or "-kun".
They're just context for gender
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>>111276465
>context for gender
>implying "-chan" is only used for a certain gender and not used for younger characters in cases
>implying the same for "-kun"
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>>111276465
>They're just context for gender
And then there's this guy. Why can't you all just admit that you don't know moon as a language beyond some stock phrases from anime and hentai?
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>>111276515
>>111276527
They wouldn't need to be translated even with that added context
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You are a thousand years too early to defeat me. While you were "learning" "Japanese" and "watching anime", I was posting on the internet and refining my techniques and I have become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
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>>111276601

Right, because there has never been jokes or development where characters have switched the honorifics dedicating level of intimacy and friendship. I bet surname and first name calling in Chinese cartoons must baffle you too.
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>>111276648
what techniques
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>>111276702
>Right, because there has never been jokes or development where characters have switched the honorifics dedicating level of intimacy and friendship.
I didn't say there weren't. Still doesn't justify translating them.

>I bet surname and first name calling in Chinese cartoons must baffle you too.
Whatever lets you sleep.
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>>111269247
Hiryuu's releases are normally pretty good and they've been around for a long, long time, but they are underdogs and, normally, people would go with other groups.
I'm not watching SAO but I read a lot of people saying they are doing the best job.
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>>111276713
Posting a lot
Getting real mad
Having strong opinions
Pretending to have been joking the entire time
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>>111276773
>I didn't say there weren't. Still doesn't justify translating them.

If they are needed to understand the situation at hand, then why shouldn't they be left in as is in your precious English subtitles?
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>>111276868
They don't do anything being included outside of spelling them out.
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>>111276930

That's what I was saying. Leave them in and don't convert them as per >>111276379, or leave them out completely for people who aren't fucking deaf. Did you think I switched my argument midway through the conversation?
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>>111276998
>That's what I was saying. Leave them in and don't convert them as per >>111276379, or leave them out completely for people who aren't fucking deaf.
You did ask why "-chan" or "-kun" were left out.
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>>111277093

Because you retardedly said they're only context for gender.
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You should always include the honorifics, because pretending they don't exist is wrong and trying to localize them is awkward and expecting the viewer to pick them up for themselves is unfair because the nips put their words in the wrong order so things like that are easy to miss. Also, you can't hear -kun and -san and -chwan in manga.
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>>111277147
I apologize.
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>>111277157
>-chwan

How did you know I scanlated, anon-chwan?
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I was googling to find out if -chwan was a "thing" people actually said or if it was one character's weird speech impediment from a manga I read and I found this and I'm pretty sure it represents the platonic ideals of both anime and fansubbing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ptlNb_Na4
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>>111277235
It was an intuition, anon-chama
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>>111277157
Or -djorno or -salma.
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>>111246441

But Exiled-Destiny, Whynot, AnimeNOW and AnimeCentral are still around as far as I am aware.

Eclipse were the last good sub group to die last time I checked.
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>>111278554
>AnimeNOW
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>>111278554
>Exiled-Destiny
>AnimeNOW
5.7/10 Almost got me.
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>>111246441
what will fansubs be like in 2024?
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>>111278856

If in 10 years later you still need sub, you should worry about something else.
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>>111278856
Files will be less than 100 MB
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So, fansubbing has died many times in the last 10 years, is this finally the real death of fansubbing?
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>>111279083
>Believing on /a/ habbenings
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>>111279083
You should be more concerned when HS dies
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>>111279168
HS isn't fansubs
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>>111279301
I didn't say it was
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Any minute now for those SYD subs.
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I hope the guy ranting about translations in this thread is just trolling all you guys, because he doesn't know ? about Japanese.
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>>111280511
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