PTCGO General: Sexy Useless Cards Edition

>>33225146
Shining Legends can't come soon enough. Has a lot of cool and interesting cards/mechanics.

>>33225190
Yeah, few new combinations I'm looking forward to. Venusaur/Genesect should be fun even without FoGP. Raichu-GX and Raikou makes a nice parallel to Turbo Dark with a main attacker with 30 more HP. Maybe Kiawe/Shiny Arceus could work?

So new release set, weekend and summer time and these threads are still incredibly dead? Whats going on has it always been like this? Or is everyone on discord or something?

>>33225410
the thread's always slow which is why it always dies when there's gamefag news

>>33225410
95% of this board is soft-core and the rest is shit posting. Blame /vp/ culture.

Anyone have a chance to test out Baby Ninetales? Considering dropping a pack for a few copies.

tfw you waste 30$ to buy 12 (8 GUR) 4 BUS and only pull 2 Holos and a Garde GX. PTCG has shit pull rates.

>>33225686
you can literally throw out random rares for it
dont waste packs

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>>33225146
I traded 5 Pikachu packs 1:1 for Guzmas and Kiawes, prices have already settled if you put the trades up yourself.

>>33225686
You can get 2 from the theme deck for 500 coins.

>>33226267
You can get one tradeable packs for 558-524, not worth it.

>>33226277
574, not 524.

>>33225788
You got the most expensive GX in the set tho

>>33226255
The trainers might have but not the full art trainers and most of the pokemon.

Waiting to trade in my GRI until the Guzma and Acerola is reasonable priced.

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I'm getting back into PTCGO since Steam Siege. Would it be wise to pick up Golisopod-GX now or wait until after rotation and just keep saving backs for Leles?

>>33226692
Goli will massively drop in price after rotation, loss of fogp is huge for the deck.

Leles will keep spiking like shaymins after rotation.

>>33226704
I guess I'll keep grinding for those Leles and hopefully pick up a couple before rotation hits.

Thanks

>>33226704
>>33226692
Goli/Zoro is a sleeper hit, jsut watch.

>>33226813
Good at worlds, awful after worlds.

Zoroark becomes it's own deck and has no space for shit like Goli after worlds because it now has it's own GX and still can use breaks.

>>33225146
So i know nothing about the TCG other than that you guys shitpost about. That card seems good to me. Why is it shit?

>>33227141
Use four items and it gets OHKO'd by Garbador with a choice band.

Lunala is nucking futs. It blows Incineroar right out of the water. I've been blind for so long.

>>33227141
First attack does 30 for each energy attached. For a single energy and a DCE, that's 90, and there are other Pokemon that hit the same amount or more and don't give up two prizes. Hell, Garbodor hits only 20 less but with a 50% chance to discard energy, and also has access to Trashalanche. Second attack does 60 and heals 30, barely even worth mentioning. The GX attack does 200 and hits through any effects on the opposing Pokemon, which could be handy in a pinch, but you can achieve the same and probably with more damage by using a different card and a Pokemon Ranger/Guzma to get around effects. Plus as already said, Psychic weakness sucks right now with Garb running around.

>>33208274
I'm looking into making this deck, could it be run with 2 Lele?

Im gonna ask a controversial question, but why do people who weigh packs get such unneeded hate? I can relate getting shite cards, plus it's fair game to weigh packs if you want to. As a paying customer, you have every right to know what you are getting in a pack of cards.

>>33227396
Isn't weighing something retailers do? I guess there could be people who bring scales into Walmart, but at that point you may as well just buy singles.

>>33227355
No. You need exactly 3. If you have a fourth trade it away.

>>33227467
I know for a fact Gamestop does, at least my local store does. I bought packs there during their sales and every pack was terrible. All of them.

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>>33227467
>implying that I'd shell out 10-20 bucks on eBay when I could just buy a $10 scale once and just bring it to Walmart

>>33227901
A $10 scale isn't sensitive enough, you're looking at at least $60.

>>33225146
One of the coolest cards of all time. What does Rainbow look like?

>>33225146
Why does every single Volc I play against use the Staryu from EVO instead of the free retreat one from Breakpoint?

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>hadn't played for 12 years
>all my cards went in the recycling back then
>buy 3 boosters on a whim today
>pull 2 secret rares
beginner's luck?

>>33228252
That's a super rare and a full art.
Not even good ones, The Koko is three dollars and the supporter is four.

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Post pulls pls

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>>33228392
Thanks for the new cards anon

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This is your opening hand for the game. What do? FYI your next two draws are also energy.

>>33228437
Disgusting... this is why I avoid throwing my code cards out here because someone might pull this sort of greedy crap.
Used to be that there was a sense of fairness and giving other people a chance to claim something as well.
Whatever...

I've got packs and I need Staples.
Specifically:

##Pokémon - 6

* 2 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 60
* 2 Garbodor GRI 51
* 2 Garbodor BKP 57

##Trainer Cards - 25

* 2 Delinquent BKP 98
* 2 Hex Maniac AOR 75
* 1 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 1 Enhanced Hammer GRI 124
* 2 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 1 Rare Candy PRC 135
* 4 Puzzle of Time BKP 109
* 4 Bursting Balloon BKP 97
* 4 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99
* 1 Float Stone BKT 137
* 3 Fairy Garden FAC 100

##Energy - 16

* 4 Double Dragon Energy ROS 97
* 3 Rainbow Energy BKT 152
* 4 Shield Energy PRC 143
* 1 Splash Energy BKP 113
* 4 Strong Energy FAC 115

Total Cards - 47

willing to pay with Burning Shadows packs.

Do you guys know if there's a market for the original cards? I'm considering selling my collection but I'm not sure if people will buy them. I've seen some good prices for them but I don't know if that is the norm. I also wouldn't consider all my cards mint but I do have rares and 1st editions.

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Working on a budget deck for post rotation since I can't afford Lele right now. Opinions?
>inb4 SR Ultraball and FA Sycamore
They're locked...

>>33229065
retards will pay big money for them sometimes, I saw someone get a grand for a half complete set on goodwill.com

but anyone who looks around will find the most expensive card in the set is like $20-30 unless you care about 1st ed, misprints, gem mint vs mint condition, ect.

>>33229087
Yeah. I was seeing stuff like Charizard for $200-$2000 but I'm pretty sure the average was between $15-$40.

>>33229078
You can drop the nest balls for Brigette. Reduce the Oranguru count down to one. I have not had much time to test out if Raticate is a decent enough attacker to consider playing 4-4.

>>33229236
With no Lele I don't see Brigette being the best idea, that's why i have the nest balls for now. I've tested A-Raticate enough and seems to be putting in work but I might drop it down to a 3-3.

>>33228773
concede

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>>33225146
At last: the dream meme!

Ok so i bought 70 BUS codes and 70 GRI codes
I definetly want to open a few of them, which should i open and how many?

>>33229478
none, just trade for what you need/want is the best answer but i doubt it'll satisfy you
i'd open more GRI, it's a much better set than BUS, so like... 10 BUS and 25 GRI

>>33229612
Alright will do, will post pulls here when i get the codes.
And yeah i could probably trade for all i want but it wouldnt satisfy my pack opening needs, its why i always buy extra

any meme decks with alolan raticate

>>33229632
If you just want the rush from opening packs, I could trade you any 2 packs for 1 GRI.

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>>33229667
Play it in expanded with Frozen Town, Elesa and eco arm.

Pack muscle bands and maybe bursting balloons.

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>>33227967
That one is a separate secret rare. The FA/RR look pretty bland in comparison.

>>33230475
Why does his hand look like a fidget spinner

>>33231084
illuminati confirmed

>>33227225
Yup. Just wait for the games when you open Bewear but your opponent opens Lunala. Makes you want to give up on life.

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>>33227901
>walmart

Moving from HS to PTCGO, as someone who played the Pokemon TCG as a kid, both the GBC game and the actual physical game.

How competitive is this game at higher levels? Are there tournaments? Real money for winning?

>>33231741
Yeah. This year's World Championship is right around the corner. First prize in 2016 was $25k.

>>33231098
>>33231084
Pokemon is for autistic kids. You just only recently noticed this.

>>33231871
Those are what populate /vp/

>>33231903
>>33231871
>water is wet

>>33225686
what is baby ninetales?

>>33232338
The alolan ninetales from BUS, not the GX one

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Which has more RNG: this game or Hearthstone?

>>33232338
The one that isn't affected by EX or GX attacks.

>>33232438
oh, I have that theme deck. Its quite good in the theme meta, also provides a nice skeleton to build a custom deck around. Shame it comes with the crappy vulpix and not the beacon one

>>33232338
"Baby" is a term a lot of people use to refer to the non -EX or -GX versions of pokemon.
>>33232441
This one for sure. Too much coin flipping.

>>33232454
To be fair, that theme deck is alright despite that Ninetales being in it. Its ability is actually useless and the attack is bad.

>>33232438
I've been using it and love it considering how everyone I face spams EX / GX pokemon.

>>33232486
>>33232454
The deck wants to get Kingdra asap to snipe the bench so your opponent never sets up. Kingdra and bruxxish snipe the bench. it has no 1 shot power so it can lose if you opponent opens lunala turn 5

What's my most efficient way to spend if I'm willing to spend $25 on this game?

>>33232863
Code cards off of EBay. Guardians rising code cards to be more specific. But them in bulk, trade for what resources you need.

hey guys, I love collecting cards IRL but i like making money too, which boosters pack I should buy to have the chance to make the most money off them?

So I'm guessing this isn't the kind of game where you can go pro? I mean, $25k/year isn't exactly living money, and that assumes you literally win the World Championship every year.

Does anybody play this on Twitch and have a good following?

>>33232937
Most "pro" players make money through sponsorships. If they play rogue decks and top with they can spike their inventory if they are vendors too

>>33232910
Guardians rising. Lele, Drampa and Metagross will net you a pretty penny and the full art items/energy are what a lot of people are clamoring for.

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>>33225146
>Bought 5 Mimikyu Pin Collections ($10/ea at Target)
>Opened up my online packs
>5 GXs (FA Umbreon, FA Solgaleo, RA Lurantis, RA Tauros, RA Decidueye)

It almost makes up for pulling nothing good IRL (just a RA Lurantis). Have you guys ever bought an IRL product, pulled shit, and then struck gold with the codes from those packs?

>>33233140
Nah, my luck is generally shit. Singles and trades for boring old me.

>>33233140
I never open them online because of that reason. I'd rage if I pull nothing IRL and pull everything good in the client.

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>>33233140
>opening packs
>ever

>>33233224
>never opening packs
you're missing half the fun of TCGs

>>33233224
Some guys love to gamble.

>>33233304
I have literally every single card I could ever want. Why would I open a pack for somethin I already have?

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Am I supposed to keep waiting ? I hit repair a few times but ended up in the same situation

>>33233224
Someone's gotta open up packs to get rare shit on the market

>>33233411
Try uninstalling and reinstalling.

>>33232937
supposedly yellowswellow makes a living off of twitch+youtube content on it

>>33228978
I hope the greedy anon dies in hell

>>33232937
Pooka whom was the best tcg youtuber (still is) was hired as tpci's commentator so more or less. Its fine to have just as a hobby, see: assfaggots.
Twitch only has good views when its a tournament.

>>33233074
cool I'll check thanks.

Cheapest place to buy digital Burning Shadows codes? Wanna get on the meme before they completely deflate.

>>33232956
>>33233523
>>33233638
Which is more lucrative to take seriously: PTCGO or the physical TCG?

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I've gotten two GXs, a shiny in SM after two eggs, and a 3/500 pull in a Gacha game. I'm feeling pretty damn lucky, so I've come to share my luck with you with some codes.
>C7G-WY49-K9D-QLM
>GP4-CLNM-D9K-CMR

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>go to brick-n-mortar store
>buy my usual ETB for the packs and goodies
>get to the last 4 packs
>see a glimmer of an FA Trainer
>"COME ON WICKE!!!
>FA Acerola
>throw the pack back in the bag in disgust and drive home

>>33233867
would you have jerked off in the car if it was wicke?

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>>33233894
uh...

>>33229453
first time seeing this happening in my life

>>33233915
Slowbro is going to take worlds.

>>33233867
FA Acerola is a much better pull from a pack, since it's actually good, and therefore more expensive. Just buy the FA Wicke straight-up if you want to look at it that bad, it's basically useless so it shouldn't be all that expensive.

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>>33233720
Is nobody gonna post results? I'm assuming that they were ass, no?

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>>33233929
>Just buy the FA Wicke straight-up

>letting some pleb touch my Future FA Wicke

>>33233720
I got the steam siege, it was garbo yeah nothing even worth taking a screenshot off

>>33233947
Just think of it as her parents handing her (the bride) to you (the groom).

>>33233961
Alright. I'll see you all in a few more months, when I decide to buy more packs.

>>33233947
How do you know some factory worker didn't jerk off on the sheet before packing it up, anon?

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I am extremely new to the card game, so let me ask something stupid. If I have 4 primarina GX, I can still run a few of this pictured Primarina, right? It's not the same card at all, so I assume.

I don't really want any pokemon other than my Primarina and huge Wailord.

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>>33233935

Pulled this at my card shop today

Is dis gud?

>>33234088
You can only run 4 copies of a card of the same name. So, you are correct: Primarina and Primarina GX are two completely different cards that can have 4 copies of each in one deck.

>>33234088
>If I have 4 primarina GX, I can still run a few of this pictured Primarina, right?
Yes.

>>33234092
No. Mail it to me immediately so I can dispose of it in a proper manner.

>>33234092
It vry gud.

>>33233867
>not jerking off to full art skyla

>>33232441

pokemon rng is "i'm going to do x, whether or not it succeeds is random"

hearthstone rng is "i'm going to do something, whether or not its x y or z is random"

the worst pokemon rng is "do i land a status/deal more damage", the most batshit crazy hearthstone rng is "pick randomly from every single spell card in the entire game and cast it on random targets up to x times"

so id honestly say hearthstone has more "anything can happen" rng but pokemon has more "success/fail" rng

>>33234210
Olivia, Plumeria, Mallow are my favorites.

>>33234210
I hope you're referring to Boobla and not the other one.

>>33233713
Physical TCG has a higher potential gain, streaming/youtubing PTCGO has better chance of more consistent income. In both cases you do much better if you get sponsored.

>>33234210
>>33234310
<piss-weak ecchi from a card game
Holy shit.

>see all the meta meme goli/gard/garb decks
>I feel a sudden urge to just build kingdra

So this is what it's like to be a shitter...

Whenever shining legends comes out, I'll also start building tapu koko again.

>>33234258

The people who bitch about PTCG RNG are like the people who bitch about stealth rock.

They both are missing quite a few brain cells.

>>33234352
I'm just saying that Boobla is the superior and more aesthetically pleasing FA Skyla, not necessarily in that way.

>>33234357
I like the idea behind Kingdra, it's numbers leave a lot to be desired, though. Maybe with Po town and some heavy disruption it could see some success behind that measly 90 damage.

>>33234824
I always thought Dusknoir/Kingdra might be a good combo, but that's still only 120 damage with two 3-stage pokemon required. Might be good against evolution-heavy deck with weak basics.

>>33234824
it's still basically night spear for one energy.

Kingdra is good in expanded too with the PLF Kingdra.

What is a good win% for a deck you are trying to make consistent and competitive?

>>33235240
Good point and good tech. Two shotting most big basics is not bad.

TCG newfag here. I have a stupid fucking question:

>What the hell is with EX and GX cards?

I have a bunch that say "Basic" on them but I know the Pokemon isn't basic, like Charizard EX and Pidgeot EX. And I have GX cards like Umbreon GX that just says it evolves from Evee.

Why does it say that? Don't you have to evolve up from, say, a Pidgeotto to get Pidgeot-EX or GX?

And can you evolve straight from the lower card to the EX or GX form, or do you have to go to the normal version of it first? So, is it Eevee > Umbreon > Umbreon-GX, or is it just Eevee > Umbreon-GX?

And also, why are these even a thing? Do they really improve the game or were they just a dumbass marketing gimmick?

Using the trading guide online, will someone actually trade 2 Lele's for 23 BUR?

>>33235422
All EX are basics, and megas evolve from Ex. GX follow the normal rule.
>a Pidgeotto to get Pidgeot-EX or GX
If that was the case it would be written on the card.

>why are these even a thing
Read the card. They are stronger but give one more prize.

>>33235461
Hell no.
But they might trade 1 for 12.

Carbink Break errata to add in GXs when?

Okay, so I have Cheat Engine. How do I use it to speed up AI games?

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>>33235422
If it's an EX pokemon, it's a basic regardless of what pokemon it actually is. You just play it and you're done. If it's a GX pokemon, it follows normal evolution rules but tends to be stronger than an EX to make up for it. So it would be
>Pokemon EX
>Basic - Stage 1 - GX
Any basic GX pokemon is just like a basic.
Yes they're good. They dominate the standard meta. It wouldn't be a good marketing gimmick if they were bad.

>>33235472
Never.

>>33235474
Follow the tutorial.

>>33235422
EX cards are all basics except for Mega EX.

They were core to how the game was played for the BW/XY eras, PCL was trying to recapture how the game played in base set and succeeded. TCG grew hugely during that era.

GX cards are them moving back into a slower style of game like late ADV/DP era.

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>>33235479
It's not fair. Fates Collide was supposed to be a good set.

>>33235464
>>33235477
>>33235516
Thanks.

I didn't mean whether they're any good from a winning the game standpoint, I know they are. I meant that it seems to me they make the game less fun because they're so blatantly overpowered. Like what the fuck is the point of anything that's not an EX or GX card now that those exist? They basically make all older cards and strategies worthless. Now I have no experience with TCG so I can't really say with any authority, but it seems like the game would be better without them, now it's just a who-has-more-EX-cards contest, and all the other pokemon are just for collecting or for dumb kids to play with.

I feel bad for anyone who spent time and money building up a nice competitive deck before they were released. It's basically Nintendo saying, fuck you, you have to buy the new shit every year to keep up.

>>33235564
The advantage non-EX/GX cards have is that if they're knocked out, you only take one prize. So if you have no X cards and your opponent has only X cards, they need 6 KOs to win and you only need 3. Non-X cards with strong, cheap attacks generally see a lot of competitive use.

>>33235526
>only 2 carbink but 2-2 weavile
Youre doing this wrong

>>33235615
Less of an issue than only 1 power memory actually since the RNG always prizes it.

>>33235564
keep in mind you lose two prizes when an EX is KO'd, so you play to make trades.

A lot of decks like Vespiquen and Zoroark are built around trading one prize attackers to KO EX. There are lots of good one prize cards out there. And end of the day 99% of GX cards are like five fucking dollars, the only GX that passes the $10 mark is Tapu Lele and you use it in every deck anyways.

PTCG is, and has always been the cheapest TCG, your first deck will run you like $100 but each successive deck is like $30-40 at most. On top of that they give you online cards when you buy paper unlike magic where you have to buy separate paper/digital collections.

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>>33235240
Surprisingly good meme, I give it an 8/10 after fucking Archeops rotates, I'd actually call it a good deck if item lock cancer wasn't shitting up expanded at all times.

>>33235722
Nice

>>33235737
See you in hell, kid.

>>33226704

People over-exaggerate how popular Golisopod GX is. Its Lurantis tier popular and losing fogp didnt kill that either. Like its good but it wont even make the top 6 decks in current standard.

It wont see depreciation until after Crimson Invasion.

>>33235880
Lurantis is going to be better than it post rotation due to losing nothing anyway. I only ever ran 2 FoGP in that deck anyway. Golisopod is going to need a steady stream of supporters and items one after the other without playing draw cards.

>>33227396

Weighing packs is stupid and doesnt always work. You end up looking like an autistic poorfag just so you can get a million fucking Bewears.

If youre looking for better odds, dont just buy boosters from booster boxes. They have a fixed amount of hyper rares. Buy some blisters and boosters. I have a gamestop next door to my walmart so if I want to increase my odds I hit up both.

>>33231084

Mewtwo was the original fidget-spinnermon.

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>just got back from Walmart with these

What should I expect?

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>>33236047

absolute shit :/

>>33236047
Bulk.

>>33236073
These are some of the worst pulls I've ever seen.

>>33236047
>>33236213
>>33236213
Looks like you opened scaled packs. Well played!

>>33236047
>>33236073
Nice to see Walmart thriving in Australia

>>33235978
>>33236073
Scaled packs say you are 100% wrong. This guy opened nothing because the heavy packs were cleaned out

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>>33234092

Im back again

Redeemed this on PTCGO afterwards with the codes I got from said booster.

God does exist.

>>33236276

I know youre trolling but since breakpoint, theyve made the code cards of varying weight so then a GX pack will weigh the same as a shit pack.

Someone trade me some leles
pls will suck dik

>>33236563
No learn some self-control and stop opening packs. Buy volcanion ex for 1 gri then resell for 2 or 3. get 4 N/sycamore/guzma with 1 chest then resell for 1 guardiants. hustle you little shit, this thread has more than enough spoon feeding

>>33236582
too much work besides people arent fucking selling leles unless they get 50 fucking packs for one

>>33236582
I don't understand how people open packs, it's not even gambling, it's more like throwing money in the gutter.

>>33236650
Just put it up a lot you'll get bites.

>>33236651
I can understand the frustration when your niche market gets flooded with other traders who figured out your secret and then the competition makes it difficult to sell consistently. The biggest mark of a good trader is to constantly find different stuff that works for them staying ahead of the curve. But these guys expect to make 50 packs in 1 day as beginners when that is unrealistic. then they bitch when staples like lele pop up. I cant even test the market properly or go too crazy with my offers because I have very low tokens especially since they put the 10 day vs reward limit.but some of these guys have thousands of tokens and then cry when they buy locked packs and pull nothing but jank and 0 shaymin/leles. its their fault for squandering resources.

>>33236650
I sold a lele for 31 Guardians. A regular art lele. Why the hell did someone buy it that high? Demand peaks at certain hours of the day and people take whatever offer is there. just keep making offers for 22 GRI youll eventually get it. It sells like fucking crack so its not hype, the demand is real and it will continue to go up incrementally. especially once BUS gets over saturated people will flock to the safest card value in tapu lele, and the safest pack in Guardians Rising. Not to mention nobody is going to give you a fair trade for your cards vs tapu lele. Use your packs as leverage

>>33228773
Hope to fuck I get N'd into something better

>>33236722
>the 10 day vs reward limit
???

>>33236746
10 battles a day. a year ago I remember you had a chance for the mystery box on a wheel and it gave tons of tokens. now you get like 4 boxes per day so there are less tokens that can be feasibly gained. 5 tokens per win is a waste of time but back then i could get 25-50 every 3 battles or so. then if you hit the 100-300 token count it could save your ass getting that new bundle promo or something. point being people piss out their tokens when its the best resource on free to play.

>>33236759
Oh, yeah, I agree with you.
Generally I play it safe and just buy Pikachu packs and trade them for GRI. I only need two FA Ho-Oh GX and I've got my post-rotation Volc deck together anyway. I do experiment with other things to trade though, the most consistent has to be Octillery's, they're seeing a huge surge in market velocity right now for some reason.

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>>33236770

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I've already bought the Lunala deck

which one for my second one?

>>33236812
Grind out like fifty more coins, buy five Pikachu packs, trade for one GRI, trade that for one BUS, trade that for 2 GRI.

What are these Pikachu packs you guys are talking about?

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>>33236847

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>>33236852
>Gems

You disgust me.

>>33236817
>55x5=550
What did he mean by this?

>>33236864
I don't use gems, the thing just shows me what it'd cost.
I have a code hookup from a friend who wheels and deals like a case of this shit a week.
>>33236866
It means I used to assume a 10:1 ratio and forgot to adjust my numbers in response to discovering it's more like 5:1.

>>33236852
Canadian? The minimum number of gems you can buy is 250 (200 + 50 bonus) for $12 still the same?

>>33236881
I don't fucking know dude, I have "USA" in my settings, I always just assumed it shows everyone the gem cost.

>>33236892
Nope only Canadian IPs get that gem pricing.

>>33236864
My notes from 2015 tell me 250 gems = 12$. Guardians rising is about 40 cents nowadays right? So thats 30 packs in value. Of course the stuff in the shop rarely goes for full value on public. Problem with Gems is the price is too volatile but I remember the Jirachi gem Promo was 100 gems and jirachi sold for 25 packs usually more at the time. the bundle didnt last long but jirachi was better than most codes online. You would have to pick up roaring skies at less than 10 cents for it to even be comparable at the time since jirachi bundle had 2 free packs plus a coin that could be sold for a few more packs. So it was the perfect gem item to use money on. I havent kept up with the gem market but gems could be a way to spend money lucratively in the game if a really good promo comes out. i know some gem sleeve/gameplay held value pretty well too. most of the time gems are garbage but there were times gems was the best way to spend real money in game.

>>33225146
Are new theme decks better than the Lunala one?

>>33235612
>>33235642
I forgot about that. That makes a little more sense I guess. I still feel like the game would be more fun without them, it still sounds like all the really winning strategies are going to be based around using EX cards strategically and a bunch of weird Trainer cards and whatnot to support them.

Like what about using one really tanky EX like a Snorlax, and filling up your deck with Trainer cards that let you retreat for free, potions, and pokemon with healing abilities so you can keep sending him back to the Bench, healing him, then sending him back out?

And I'm not going out of my way to buy cards, I'm just kind of learning to use the ones I happen to have around. Wife keeps buying pokemon packs at the store because she loves to open them, so I figure I might as well learn to play the game because I have nothing better to do.

Also--are there any videos of example gameplay that aren't narrated by fucking little kids? I'm trying to watch a few normal games played through to get a feel for how the game goes, but they're all either first-time instruction videos, pro matches with no explanation at all, or fucking little kids.

>>33237390
>I still feel like the game would be more fun without them
I tried. It isn't. It's a fucking grind.

>>33237390
yellowswellow/omnipoke

>>33237315
They're terrible even by themedeck standards

>>33237394
Isn't that kind of what it's supposed to be? Like the original video games were all a grind too. You have to spend a while to build up to the good cards, or choose some okay cards early on, you can't just have massive damage potential in the first couple of turns because, fucking EX cards, bitch!

I just feel like it completely nullified the old idea of upgrading to a normal Stage-2 evolution over the course of the game. Like who the fuck's actually going to go through Charmander > Charmeleon > Charizard now?

>>33237419
Thanks

>>33237442
Almost all decks are evolution decks now and a few of the biggest ones use stage twos
I think you're looking at this through nostalgia goggles. No one would play a TCG where one game takes an hour

man, eggs decks in legacy takes so much fuckin time to play against
the battle are hella interesting but jesus i just had to sink 30 minutes in that game vs empoleon/egg

For how long should I put my trade in ?
Is 48 hours a waste of token/time ?

Also ,is a baby-ninetales/ninetales/glaceon deck a good idea ?

>>33238123
8 hours

any of you play lycanroc.dek? looking to build it but not sure what ratios and shit people go with

>>33236770
>Octillery's, they're seeing a huge surge in market velocity right now for some reason.

Because of the upcoming death of Shaymin.

>>33238123
That deck idea sounds neat.

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I'm trying to come up with a deck centered around pic related.

The gist of it would be discarding basic pokemon as needed to give it a wide range of attacks and using rescue stretchers to get them back on the bench as needed.

Any suggestions?

>>33239455
It's a dumb idea frankly. It's a gx with low hp that's clearly better suited for a supporting role. You might as well try to make a deck centered around attacking with shaymin ex.

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Were Ex/Gx a mistake?

>>33239455
Best use for it is probab;y with Jolteon/Glaceon EX, just trying to lock your opponent and freely picking either Jolteon's move or Glaceon's

>>33239622
Ex yes
Gx no

Games without any x Pokemon drag out really hard and encourage passive play. However ex Pokemon ruined evolution as a mechanic for a decade and led to cancerous 40 trainer decklists. Gx is fair in comparison, even if some of the cards seem unfair.

>>33239672
New EX Pokemon aren't being printed anymore, right? When will the last EX rotate out of Standard?

>>33239622
I think so.

The first ex era had pokemon that were slightly better, it was up to you wether or not to take the two prize risk.

The current two prizers are so much better that most non-EX/GX become useless. Yes, there have been always useless cards, but we reached a point where most of them have 0% chance of winning. You can't even try to play with your favorite mon (unless it's Darkrai or Gardevoir).

The game is still good, but it's really sad that so many cards have nothing but collecting value.

>>33239622
The current iteration of EX are the problem.

GX are perfectly fine in my book.

>>33232910
Bump

>>33239935
Guardians Rising.

But that is assuming you get lucky. Trying to make money out of packs is a mistake, you will always end up wasting more than you sell.

>>33239716
>The current two prizers are so much better that most non-EX/GX become useless.
Yeah, because Garb, Alolan vulpix, Vileplume, Vikavolt, Xerneas, Eevolutions or Tapu koko are useless.
Just in the last months there has been several tops with decks with non ex/gx main attackers such as Vespiqueen, Zoroark, Gyarados or Greninja.

I haven't played this since Evolutions so I don't know so much about the meta right now.
Should I trade my Darkrai EX FA for 2 Grandpa FA? It is any good?

Who are the best streamers if I want to learn strategy?

>>33237705
The eggs animation as well as digging into the discard pile make it tedious. Before you could play the ability with 1 click without going into discard. no idea why it was removed.

>>33238123
8 hours because kids these days dont wait for the whole trade system to load. just whatever is at the 8 hour mark. its a terrible trading system probably the worst of its kind. Best way to abuse it is to spam trades at the 8 hour mark relentlessly

>>33239622
GX are basically mega evolution without the stupid end your turn rule. EXs were just an exacerbation of a bigger problem pokemon has which was big basic syndrome. apparently it sells well so the game will never go back to dp era of card design. not to mention games can take less longer with the 2 prize rule. japan only has 1 game per round and still have trouble with keeping within time limits.

Which deck si the fastest for laddering? sick of these 20 minutes games and losing when all I want are the vs rewards box

>>33239702

Next year probably after Steam Siege cuts off

>>33240067
>"most" and "all" means the same thing to me
Yes anon, the meta is not just EX/GX, but the discrepancies leave no room for MOST other Pokémon.

I, for example, like Arcanine, baby Lycanroc, Persian, Alolan Sandslash, Chesnaught... The list goes on. The thing is, cards like these have no chance at all against any EX/GX, even shitty ones.

Normal Pokémon are only playable when they have a multiplier that can reach big numbers or when they have an useful ability. And those are a very small fraction of what we get every set.

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>>33236852
Wait a fucking minute. You can buy Charizard box in Canadian store?

>>33241224

The current meta is about 50/50.

You exaggerate way too much.

>>33241224
It's not even close to most, the split is pretty close to half and half.
I agree with your point about some cards not being usable, but it doesn't have anything to do with EX/GX, just look at machamp, charizard or any of the other multiple cards which have various EX/GX and are still useless.
I do agree that they should try to make more pokemon viable instead of giving yet another good card to darkrai, but the solution isn't making an EX/GX for each card nor removing the already existing EX/GX.

>>33241224

You can easily make a cool Arcanine deck with Kiawe. Make sure to get a bunch of Tapu Lele-GX though.

>>33240009
Oh yeah i know, I just want to open some pack and collect some cards, I just want to know, if i get lucky, what the potencial money i can make. Thanks BTW

I can't wait to buy a box and get all the shit pulls

>>33239622
GXs are decent so far but it really annoyes me how most multi staged ones are really not worth it due to basic GXs being plain better

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>reach 1600 on the ladder
>get the 5 GRI
>nothing in the first 4 packs outside of a rev.holo rescue stretcher
>5th pack

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I miss BREAK ride Pokémon.

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>Yfw you only lose to people with no skill.
>How I know?
>They only win using Lysandre
Lysandrfags deserve to die to be honest.

>>33242390
I wish Kingdra had a BREAK evolution.

Finally a decently viable Kingdra but it doesn't have the HP to be good in this metagame. If it had like 20 more HP or an ability to back it up then it'd be good.

>>33242390

They could not balance them. They had subpar HP, the pre-evolutions did nothing special and many of the BREAKs (Chesnaught's being especially bad) were still unplayable

Of course, that didn't stop them making a HOORAY BIG BASIC to immediately kill BREAKs dead whatever was left of them.

>>33242399
what did he mean by this?

>>33242399
Explain how exactly they Lysandre 6 prizes from you.

Because if you are filling your bench with Leles and Shaymins and don't win fast enough, you deserve it.

>>33242399
>tfw I always Lysandre their 3 Shaymin and win in 3-4 turns.

Every. Fucking. Time.

>>33242390
BREAKS were the most boring, bland and worthless iteration in the history of Pokémon TCG.

>Just checked my messages on the TCGO and I got a report notification.

Wow, someone was salty...

What are the chances of me getting banned for that?

I think Pokemon could hit HS level of popularity if:

1. There were a dedicated viewing mode and the PC version of the game looked a bit better.
2. There were a major forum with hover functionality so readers could hover over the name of a card and see what it does.

>>33242505
>BREAKS were the most boring, bland and worthless iteration in the history of Pokémon TCG
Only because nothing besides Greninja and Zoroark were made viable.

The mechanic itself is interesting, but it is too clunky and has no support whatsoever.

>>33242470
Since I only play 2 Leles 0 Shaymins, it's actually rare for that to happen. It's entirely late-game when my opponent and I require 1/2 Prizes to win. I dead-draw allot (playing Post Rotation Volcanion). I actually win most of my matches, around 95% of losses are because Lysandre, while the other 5% is a god awful start w. Dead Draws entire game.

>>33242553
>Only because nothing besides Greninja and Zoroark were made viable.
Zoroark was "viable" only for one or three months, and even then most people used the normal Zoroark more.

The good thing is that this mistake made possible the creation of a better mechanic, the GXs.

>>33241875
Basic GX's are seen more often, but so are evolutions. Mulling it over in my head, they are more or less even if you don't count necessary editions that 95% of decks need to run in order to be competitive (Lele).

Basics have: Lapras, Tauros, Turtonator, Drampa, Necrozma, Darkrai and Bulu.

Evolutions have: Decidueye, Espeon, Umbreon, Ninetales, Metagross, Golisopod and Gardevoir.

Decidueye and Golisopods futures are up in the air with rotation coming in a few weeks, but that's not a bad ratio to have for a mechanic that was introduced in February. It is definitely way better handled than BREAK's were.

>>33242602
Both mechanics were recycled and had potential. BREAKs are Lv.X's in a meta of big basics: an obvious mistake.

If we had a single item that could evolve a Pokémon into its BREAK on the turn it was played, then maybe they'd be fast enough to compete with EXs.

Or, since they were in a meta with no tool removal for a long time, some sort of FFB for them.

I suspect the only reason they were left without support was Greninja. Any extra help would break that deck (no pun intended).

>>33242399

Sounds to me like you're a shitty player himself who can't get into late game. Git gud.

>>33242553

>Only because nothing besides Greninja and Zoroark were made viable.

You forgot Trevenant Break.

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how do I stop getting mad when I lose

>>33242800
True. Still, that's 3 out of 35.

>>33242800

Bronzong break is kind of decent with Solgaleo in expanded.

>>33242838
Realize it's just a game.

Then get mad when you lose again.
Honestly it's about taking losses in strides and moving on, breathing helps and also taking breaks when you're on tilt to avoid tilting even more.

>>33228773
Play two energy, sky return into the loss. Like a pro.

>>33242838
It's hard to say, anon, it depends on what kind of person you are. If you believe Rngesus hates you, then you'd better kust quit.

If you believe you can get better at the game, try to analyze your matches and find out what were your mistakes. Check your opponent's decklists, see if you can learn what is their strategy and if it applies to your own deck.

I myself have learned to admire good decks. Think about it: When you win, what reaction do you expect from your opponent? Are you trying to make them mad? Or to show how your list is powerful? When you put effort into something, you don't want to be hated for that.

I have a friend who used to get really pissed at me when he'd lose online. As soon as he started playing IRL with me, he changed. I believe playing only online makes you feel as if everyone is your enemy. If that's the case, I'd sugest you try to play IRL, it's a lot easier to face defeat and learn from someone that can talk more than those pre constructed lines from ptcgo (which somehow always sound provocative).

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>>33243016

>yfw your opponent is one of those fags who says "well played" prematurely and still make a comeback and blow him the fuck out.

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>>33243016
>If you believe Rngesus hates you
I'm not convinced that it's this.

> I believe playing only online makes you feel as if everyone is your enemy
I think it's this. For some reason, I always get the feeling that my opponent is not playing the game for fun or for their own enjoyment. I get this feeling that they just want to win at all costs, by any means necessary, and that I am just another obstacle that needs to be removed. I feel as though my opponent loathes me, because I may prevent them from winning, and when they hate me then I feel that I must hate them in return. Suddenly, nobody is having any fun and Pokemon becomes a brutal race to the finish. Gotta win, win win. No matter what. It sucks the enjoyment out of it for me. I just want to play a friendly game of cards. What is this strange obsession with being the best there ever was in a literal children's card game?

I realize that I am probably projecting a bit. I don't feel this way when I play Magic at the store on Fridays.

>>33243102
PTCGO can be really toxic, I stopped playing it for a while now. I used to take some breaks at the trades after some matches (winning or not, people who spam angry faces when they are losing are also maddening).

You could try TcgOne. It's harder to get matches there, but the chat is open and people are usually nice.

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>>33243095
one of the best feeling
up there is when they say "well played" when they think they have the win on board, and you pull some great late-game combo or gamechanger card and you take it

>>33243095
I had one opponent Lysandre my EVO Mew to attack it with his M Mewtwo for the last prize. He goes like:

>Well played
>[attacks for 0 damage]
>Angry face
>loses on the following turn

I don't like hostile matches, but these moments are so rewarding.

I wonder if anyone genuinely means it when they send a "well played".

>get half a box
>SR Choice Band, Salazzle, FA Necrozma, tons of holos

Not bad considering that's by far the best SR, after pulling FA Golisopod from prerelease and FA Gard from my ETB I'm making pretty solid progress on the big cards. Just Guzma left really, not counting hyper rares.

>>33239622
ex's from the RSE-era were fine -- the first iteration with Mewtwo/Chansey/Hitmonchan was complete ass, Sandstorm made them worth playing

EXs from BW were so fucking stupid. Mewtwo-EX had 80 more HP than the Mewtwos printed before it, and had no damage ceiling. The power creep was palpable to the point some people unironically talked about banning it. The fact they were basics took non-supporting Stage 2s out of the picture. Not to forget Rare Candy was nerfed.

GXs are a lot more balanced, and thank god they're not all basics. They had to be made significantly stronger than Basic GXs, but at least they're more balanced.

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Bought each of these for $3.15

Can't wait to see the absolute garbage I'll pull!

What are some good post-rotation decks? Tried Tapu Koko-GX, but it doesn't set up fast enough and gets one shot vs half of its match-ups.

>>33243572
How?

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>>33243604
Price match at target, got 16 blisters for $50

Not amazing pulls, but can't really complain

>>33243240
>>I wonder if anyone genuinely means it when they send a "well played".
I do send it genuinely, which ends up in some stupid situations like saying well played when I guess the opponent can win easily the next turn and getting spammed with hearts, happy faces and well played when the opponent thinks I wasn't expecting him to win.
Or when I said well played when the opponent had win in field they miss it and I end up winning next turn.

>>33243588
Zoroark, Metagross, Volcanion, Gardevoir will be the big four imo, with the latter three forming a rock-paper-scissors relationship and Zoroark being 50/50 versus all of them.

>>33243680
Got a link to what you price matched?

>>33243102
You are describing life anon. Those neighbors of yours? Yeah they are not friend they are enemies and strangers who dont care for your well being over their own. Its all a race and if you win you take their spot for rewards so they will do anything to pull you down.

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>>33243826
I don't believe that it needs to be this way, though. In America, I think it is rabid capitalism that fosters this brutal mentality. It's every man for themselves, because it's 2k17 and we still believe so fervently in the Self Made Man meme.

We are all in this together. Let's just have fun and play a nice game of cards.

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What spend coins on now

>>33243860
Its animal nature. Why do lions fight for supremacy? They arent king of the jungles because a hippo would chomp a lion in half with 1 bite. Humans fight for center stage and for what? Resources are limited, dumbing down the population and becoming king isnt impressive. Big fish in a small pond paradox. Its a sickness thats carried through all the animal kingdom, and humans are some of the most primitive beasts. I agree it doesnt NEED to be this way.

As for vs I honestly just want to win for the vs reward tokens. I only get mad if I lose a 20 minute game nowadays.

>>33243588

Like >>33243742 said Gardevoir, Metagross, and Vocanion are the big three. Volc might push Metagross out of the meta since it has no check.

I don't think Zoroark is playable, it has a 50/50 Volc but looses to the other two unless your opponent is an idiot.

Ninetales should also be viable. VikaBulu and Garb variants are more up in the air but should be around. Xerneas and Darkrai are also contenders.

>>33243895
Make trades on public flipping cards(best use of tokens), or use tokens to enter token tournaments for tournament tickets(long and you have to win consistently) OR buy pikachu packs and sell 5 for 1 guardian rising packs(not the most maximized value for tokens, but the safest with no gambling involved.

>>33243933
Can you break that down more for the mentally challenged?

Public flipping cards?

Where do I go to trade the Pikachu boxes?

Also, do I open the GR packs?

>>33243925
>Volc might push Metagross out of the meta since it has no check.
Volc autoloses to Gard which autoloses to Gross which autoloses to Volc.

anyone got a reliable link for cheat engine, as well as a how-to? the link in the OP is garbage.

>>33243963
>Public flipping cards?
Pick a card, and try to sell it for more than you bought it for.

>Where do I go to trade the Pikachu boxes?
Public trade

>Also, do I open the GR packs?
No. Stockpile them until you have enough to buy lele. It's the number one staple card.

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>>33243963
buy metagross gx for 1 pack sell for 2-3. Extremely basic but it wont always work 100% of the time. You must make your OWN offers. Public wont give you fair offers because the lowlifes snatch up all the good offers.

In the shop > Gameplay tab. Then make an offer on public trade your 5 pikachu for 1 guardians rising pack

>Also, do I open the GR packs?
I fell like I am being baited. Never open packs. You use packs to trade for stuff you want for your deck. Have self restraint. The grind can be tough when you start from scratch but with some persistence you will build everything you want just start with the staples.

>>33243963
You can also use pikachu packs for commons/uncommons like sycamore/N/choice band/guzma. The playerbase has quite a large amount of those cards, but only the newer sets as the older prints are much more rare and less likely people will trade it off. Next, if you ask for foils your chances go down substantially. you can get about 1 foil for 1 pika pack usually. you can get about 5-10 trainers from the newest set non foil with 1 pika pack but the more you ask the less chance of success.

If you want to get vs rewards use the hidden moon theme deck. its one of the best. The problem with standard is you want at least 1 tapu lele which is 20+ guardians packs. you can make a budget mew/passimian which doesnt need tapu. you can also make volcanion or metagross. they lose some consistency because you can no longer ultraball into tapu lele but you can still curbstomp most players in the game regardless. really just pick a deck you like, that will be your goal and then build from there.

>>33244058
If you've never opened a single pack I'd open like 15-20 and then just keep them for trades. Lots of good stuff to get with a chance to get something expensive, so I wouldn't say you should never open one.

>>33242597
>my deck that depends on my opponent not interacting with my bench dies to bench interaction

Gee fuckin whiz anon

>>33244364
It's only worth it if you're sitting on hundreds of packs like me, and just do it for fun / to pass the time

Is there a way to accelerate energy for Toxapex GX? I'm trying to make a deck for it with Wishful Baton but can't think of a good way to accelerate energy, besides like Rayquaza, which requires a DCE.

I know it's really bad, but I just wanna meme with it.

>>33245113
Wait for Shining Mew.

>>33243771

Id like to know as well

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>never open packs
I don't get this, I mean I do, you trade packs for the exact cards you want / need for your deck, but that just sounds very boring and slow

I used to save up BS packs but once I reached 6 I started to open them instead. I got Golispod and machamp from them, traded all of those and got 9 more packs, opened those up and got HR Bulu, Fini and pic related.

I know it's very luck dependent but man, opening packs is the most fun I get from the game, grinding for packs and trading all of them for that one exact card you need is the most strategic and munchkin way to go about it, but from my personal experiences, I got to build my deck a lot quicker and had a lot more fun by opening packs instead.

then again, I'm a leleless player so yeah, take what I say with a grain of salt

>>33245229
I didn't read the bulk of that, but you are gonna stay Lele-less. The law of the land about not popping packs is for all the baby scrubs trying to get in on the action fast and efficiently.

You can have whatever kind of fun you want, this game attracts all kinds, but packs are money.

>>33243860
I agree. People act as if they really go through any of this "modern jungle" theory as if that could possibly apply for someone who has enough resources to spend their time and money on a TCG. And then about it on /vp/.

Humans have as much competitive as socializing traits. We are not just one side of the coin and it's definetely possible to play a children's card game just for fun.

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>>33245229
I made 70ish Guardians Rising packs on pure profit since the morning. This doesnt happen everyday but flipping cards is by far the best feeling because now I can make any deck I want. I can go full high rarity. I have 20+ leles because they sell so well. I could NEVER do this opening packs. Hoping to pull 20 leles is ridiculous. Heck in my opinion hoping to pull 1 lele is straight bonkers. But I can trade for lele with shitty cards then resell at profit. Look I dont tell you not to open packs so you feel like shit. Im giving you the best advice so you dont have to hope to open random cards. Im giving you advice that will let you get that lele without paying money with minimal grind. to build any deck. even tropical beaches arent a farcry.

Now I understand the "fun" approach. But what works is there are 1000s of leles on the market right now. and there are 10 or so people who will trade it for jank cards, or 20 Guardians packs and then I flip that for couple more packs. Maybe I want Rainbow Gardevoir? I trade 1 lele and a few packs. I never have to crack open BUS packs because I can turn 1 BUS into 2. Ina day i can turn 1 bus into 7 or so. not bad right? but I got multiple offers that dont always work but when they do I can make a new deck. I log in the morning and at night. I only play for vs ladder on weekends because you need tokens to make public offers in the first place.

Again I dont say this to sabotage players. If you want to open packs go ahead. If you want to make a deck with x4 leles then stop opening packs. You wont get 4 leles without losing money or opening hundreds of packs. Sure there is that 1 guy who opened back to back leles. he is an anomaly. Anyways Im glad to help you guys. Up to you if use that advice.

>>33245692
So what you did/do is pretty much saved up for let's say a lele in this case, get the cheapest one possible, resell for higher, buy cheap one again, and repeat that process all the time? man that reminds me of my MMO days. I could do that, maybe I should starting with the Gardevoir, that does sound fun in its own way.

also, seeing all those packs just makes me want to open at least 500 of 'em in one go, I may have a problem.

>>33245692
I think this goes without saying but I never spent cash on this game. I will tell you how I started from the bottom.
> I started as a Yugioh player who didnt know jack shit about pokemon.
>Downloaded PTCGO and grind out theme vs mode
>tournaments are introduced and now packs are prizes
>Grind tournaments with basic BW green, Basic Orange, mind wipe then eventually mental might then dark hammer
>move into standard with jank quad pyroar deck
>started to resell pyroars
>learned the art of flipping cards
I moved into flipping high rarity cards within 2 months. 3rd month I had everything I wanted max rarity.

Granted back then it was easier to sell higher because trading companies standards were easier to undercut since they were so greedy in their price value. Now the profit margin is smaller. I dont "snipe" cards. I make my own offers then log off. I dont haggle with players to lower their price. I set my prices and go about my day.

Tournaments, Theme Deck tournaments specifically, is how I started my pack currency. Pyroar a shitty budget deck showed me the art of flipping cards.

>>33245718
yeah i pick up lele for like 20 packs worth of jank cards then resell. this was easier 1 month ago because everyone figured out lele is money so its price us more competitive

right now i flip dark patch, virbank/laser, octillery, metagross gx etc buy for 1 pack resell for 2-3. Its a bit less lucrative but more consistent.

anyways I wont give shit away, but I will teach you how to walk on your own. heck surpass me if thats your ambition. Just pass it forward to the next anon.

>>33245718
>seeing all those packs just makes me want to open at least 500 of 'em in one go
See it from my perspective. Nothing in Guardians Rising is worth cracking 500 packs. But maybe the next set will have something big bigger than Lele? Now I have 500 packs for that next big thing. Heck start flipping that next big thing. I do open locked packs, but honestly I can do so much damage with 1 GRI/BUS pack its not worth it. Now what really holds me back is I only have 100-300 tokens at any given time. Offers arent 100% accurate but they work. just find your niche, you might figure out a goldmine nobody else will figure out in months and by then you will have your own collection. just test the waters with what people play in standard but in expanded and legacy too.

>>33245736
I wasn't expecting charity in the least anyway, but thanks for the insight of keeping the packs, I do see a lot more of the value when doing reselling and all.

I don't know if my pack opening addiction can be cured though.

>>33245745
Don't worry, I didn't mean that I would open all of these packs because I think it's totally worth it and that I'll be winning in the end, I just love opening packs for the fuck of it, really.

>>33245755
I had a friend who wanted to open a Full Art N. So he traded his whole collection for Noble Victories packs. He ended up opening 200 packs with everything but full art N. A week later he opened 400+ packs finally got Full Art N. at the time N was only 50ish pack value. I got pack opening experience vicariously through him since he would constantly get angry how he has yet to pull a Full Art N. When he got the N he was happy but he quit for a year too since his collection was gone. Just keep it in moderation.

How many packs of BUS should I offer for a Lele?

>>33243976
Greninja has a good matchup against all three (Shadow Stitching ruins Metagross). I've been seeing him a lot on ladder lately and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes very popular again.

>>33246015
Forty

>>33246015
try14-16
>>33245736
you are absolutely right, and your advices are very sound (i do the same, and would recommend it to anyone pickin up the game and wanting to build good decks); the way you phrase it amuses me
>anyways I wont give shit away, but I will teach you how to walk on your own. heck surpass me if thats your ambition. Just pass it forward to the next anon.
sounds like an old master teaching the new generation ;w;
>thanks anon-sensei...for i will become the best trader the world has ever seen!

but yeah, top tier advices ofc, and i encourage everyone to still ride the BUS wave, as they're still overpriced right now! you can get a lot of meta cards in every format for much less than their worth in GRI

>>33243976
garde doesn't autolose to gross honestly, it has less consistency issues than metagross, if metagross janks out for a turn or two it can easily lose.

>>33239622
EXs were definitely a mistake. Some genius at the pokemon actually thought "Let's make evolved pokemon basics" "Let's make a basic wailord with 250 HP". Just because all the 12 year old charizard fanboys like big numbers and shiny cards. Completely destroyed evolution which has been a huge mechanic of the game since its inception.

GXs on the other hand are a step in the right direction, imo. The power creep is still there, yes, but I like how they changed the game, you still have to evolve, and it made the game not so fast paced. The GX attacks are neat, as they can be a game changer, or it can screw you if you use it at the wrong time.

>>33225146
I'm new.
I've read that to get the best cards the most efficient way you have to exchange them for booster packs. I've got some playing against the AI but it says I can't trade them. Do I get them only by buying with coins?

>>33247203
I read wrong the TLDR, don't mind the dumb question

>>33245229
>>33245692
>>33245718
>>33245736
>>33245768
>>33246379
why not just get a job, buy a bunch of packs with your disposable income, and have fun playing the game while also supporting the developer?

I'm not an economics student, but I do know that there is an opportunity cost associated with flipping packs, because the time you spent reading into the market and making trades is time that you could have spent making actual money. The question then is which one results in more packs in the long run?

I agree with the anon who said that opening packs is the most fun part of a TCG. I'm not willing to lose that experience just so I can make a 'profit' off of virtual items that have no intrinsic value. Your mileage may vary.

>>33247218
But you made money with a card game, the manchild dream.
Like YouTube

>>33247218
I've got a doctor's appointment at nine, I'll go through the math when I get back.

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>>33247218
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>>33247400

Other anon here.

The way I look at it is packs are $4 and each card is 30 cents to a dollar even if I get shit draws so even a shit pack will still equal the cost of the pack or more. If I get a GX or better then thats a plus. So if I sell in bulk then I can retain the value and even get the GXes that I want to deckbuild. Other times its trading dead cards (Sylveon GX) for current (Metagross GX)

You gotta find your own way to economize your collection.

>>33247628

To add to that, I find that Pokemon cards are like scratch-off tickets but better. If that gives you some perspective.

Tip for gitting gud

Don't ignore threat assessment and board development over taking prizes. It's easy to lysandre a shaymin and feel accomplished, but it's often better to focus on their threats, even if you can't knock them out. A shaymin is never going to be worth fewer prizes unless something special happens, and every turn that their threat is unopposed, you will take more damage. A lot of bad players blame N and ace trainer for their losses, not realizing that spending your lysandre for prizes while they were ahead let them take control of the game.

Stay free.

How do you play Darkrai now?

>>33247218
I did not mention buying packs because that is an extreme outlier. Most people here cannot afford to spend so much money on virtual packs. But you are correct buying pack codes is the fastest way to build a collection. A friend I know bought 1000s of codes and built a bigger collection than me in just 1 month. Probably dropped $1000s. How he spends his money is on him.

As for why? Because again most players here would not come here if they were buying packs. Most want to keep it free to play for whatever reason. Market trends dont take very long to read into. See Zoroark/drampa top an event? Buy up zoroarks and drampa. Octillery wont rotate but shaymin will? Buy up octillery. metagross has a good match up vs gard? Buy up metagross. Its simple stuff like this that will carry most players. hardly any effort or time involved. though to expand your acceptance rate you want to get creative with your offers. I still stand by statement there is no reason to crack open packs in PTCGO because packs have much more value on average than whatever you hope to pull. whether you are buying codes or free to play its rarely advised to do so.maybe day 1 of a new set opening packs can give the best returns. But that same new pack can let you pick up most cards in the 10 range value. then from there you can flip.

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>>33248829
Just pace yourself. You do vs daily rewards right? you got plenty of time

>>33248528
Play one or two GX and load up on energy + elixirs.

>>33248829
If you like FA supporters, you're not a blingfag. If you're trying to bling out every card in the deck i.e. reverse holo non-FA suppoters, energies, simple items and secret rare items.

>>33249651
...you're a blingfag.
Forgot to end the sentence.

I bought a ton of Burning shadows with that walmart 3.15 price match, and i pulled like 3 Golisopods. I am shit at deckbuilding in this game. What else would i put in the deck other that shit that bounces him back to the bench and makes his retreat cost loeer?

>>33249716
Zoroark with float stone? Guzma, super scoop up, escape rope, switch. pick your poison basically

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>>33249716
Promo Tapu Koko, Switch, Super Scoop-Up/Acerola, and Zoroark BKT are a few ideas to think about, but you will absolutely require 3-4 Guzma. Losing Forest of Giant plants is brutal for the deck because you can't put down two Wimpods during setup, Golisopod your benched one turn 1, then Wimp Out into Golisopod for massive damage, but it's not a killing blow. Just experiment a little, put stuff together and try it out, then if it doesn't seem to be working like you'd hoped, go back to the drawing board and modify it a little more.

3 regular art Golisopods for 18 BS? is that good?

>>33249919
No. That's terrible. You figure they would go for about 3 packs starting price.

Got a BUS Box for pretty much 10$, disappointing pulls but I cant complain.

>>33249716
Also recommend a couple of promo Lurantis for truly ridiculous damage for 1 energy.

>>33250238
Scaled box huh kid?

>>33249773
>>33249793
Thanks dudes. i'll try this out

>>33250215
Golisopod seems to be the most expensive card in the set right now after Gardevoir with these inflated prices.

>>33250242
>promo Lurantis
oh shit thats not bad at all. gonna go to the shop later and pick these up. You think this deck would be decent in the meta? There's a regional coming up on th 3rd and i wanna play this. Or ill just bum my friends expanded deck

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>>33233867
>Finally get around to buying a box
>Open the 5th pack and see it's a white online card
>see a glimmer of an FA Trainer
>"I can't wait for ano-"
>It's my FA Wicke
Jizzed in my shorts

Rest of the box pulls were shit, but I got my waifu

>>33250247
Not exactly a scaled box, had above average UR pulls, but the URs were pretty bad, bar the Garde GX and Tapu Bulu FA.

>>33250277
It can stay expensive if it wants, card is not so remarkable you need to go dropping almost 20 packs on regular arts.

>>33250285
Honestly yeah, I think it'll be seen a lot coming up at Worlds.

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>>33250277
>>33250285
It's the current flavor-of-the-rotation meme-deck. While I guarantee it'll see some play and will probably be decent I seriously doubt it will top any events with things like Garde running around. Fire decks that use Kiawe will ruin your shit too, so be wary of those.

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Some cunt at my local Target bought all the Burning Shadows so I bought a Zygarde Pin Collection and pulled this but it has a dent in the ear. Is it worth PSA grading anyways?

>>33250447
Draw a piercing there and say its part of the card

>>33250447
Man ive opened a few boxes of GRI and BUS and all the fucking rainbow rares/secrets/full arts have some sort of border damage, i am incredibly careful at opening my packs and this is a recurring trend
Who does quality control for these cunts

I am utterly brand new to this game, if I were to post my list, would anyone mind giving some short feedback on what points of the game I'm missing?

>>33250994
Post list and I can give you a quick summary of why it's shit and what you should consider.

I'm watching ti7 right now so don't have free time to give full critique.

>>33250994
PS: Look up youtubers like tablemon, yellowswellow, omnipoke, and teamfishknuckles.

They do regular videos about top decks and give insight into why they have certain cards in their deck.

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>>33251032
Okay, thank you! I'm running:

4x Poplio
4x Brionne
4x Primarina GX
4x Wailmer
4x Wailords
4x Tentacool
4x Tentacruel

From there I have 2 ultraballs, 2 nest balls, and 2 timer balls. 4 Hau, 4 Hala, 1 Kukui and 1 Lili

and the rest is water energy, something close to 20. I was thinking of moving my whole Wailord thing over to 4 of the Dewgong's who have 120 hp and Freezing breath. I felt Freezing Breath is similar to what I like about Wailord's Dive, but the whole pokemon is just cheaper and easier to play, and can work with Double Colorless Energy. Then with just seels, I could call the deck the Seal Deal

>>33251130
Primarina is a bad GX, requires too much investment for an attack that isn't great. Darkrai does the same thing but his attack has a 20 base and Darkrai is a basic which means it benefits from elixers compared to primarina.

Too many different types of pokemon evolution lines, generally focus on one evolution line or meximum two. You'll end up with too many dead cards if you try to put in more than two evolution lines in such thick numbers.

Way way WAY too much water energy. The deck that runs the most energy right now in the current meta is darkrai which runs 12-15 and that's considered a LOT. Generally run 8-10 energies in most decks unless you're running max elixers or something.

Hau is bad, Hala is bad. Run Sycamores and N in x4 count pretty much as a baseline for every deck. TIMER BALL IS AWFUL, run x4 Ultra Balls always.

tl;dr: Choose another stronger GX deck, if you want a water deck the kingdra is mildly viable but probably ninetales gx is the most meta water deck right now.

Also look up youtubers I referenced, they'll help you understand why your deck is bad and how good decks run.

>>33251130
Assuming you're using Primarina as the main attacker, take out 2 Brionne, add 3-4 rare candy and 4 aqua patches. I'm also not sure about the other attackers, they'll probably make the deck pretty clunky. 20 water energy is probably too much as well, you'll get a lot of dead hands. I have a Primarina GX deck as well, it's not the best and probably needs tweaking as well, but yeah.

>>33251173
I hear you, I asked for your advice and I read it, and I'll look up your youtube guys. But unfortunately you're telling me to build something that ISN'T primarina, and that's just not gonna jive. You're right, I do agree Timer Ball is awful, but the card disadvantage of Ultra ball is too, are you sure about 4 of them? I was about to kill them completely. And Hau, bad? "hau" is that possible, it's literally Ancestral Recall from magic, yet it doesn't even cost U. I asked for your help, but even I'm not so sure about that one.

>>33251193
So I should kill off the Tenta's completely for the Candy and Patches, then 2 Brionne and like 5 Energy to fill in my draw like Kukui and Lili in playsets?

>>33251253
Having a petdeck is fine but you have to admit when a card is bad bruh.

Primarina is not in a good place right now, it's like 1-3 cards off being viable but until that happens I'd suggest staying away. The longer you stick with it the more you'll struggle in the long run.

Also playing different decks will help you in the long run, if you only play one deck you're ultimately hurting yourself by limiting yourself. This isn't a fighting game, metas change and you have to be flexible with deck choices.

Yes, all good decks run 4 ultra balls. Discarding cards from hand is a VERY good ability to have.

Hau is awful. Don't pun at me, I'll counterspell your shit.
Hau is awful because Sycamore and N exist. Being able to discard a whole hand to get a new hand is ridiculously powerful. And N gives you the ability to disrupt your opponent's hand while refreshing your hand.

>>33251253
Yep.
In mine, my only other pokemon other than the popplio line is Oranguru and Tapu Lele. You could also use Octillery for drawing cards as well. I'd have 2-3 Brionne if you're running 4 rare candy. I'd say 10 or 9 energy max. 2 Kukui is fine. I've tried to use Lillie and Hau before, and they're not great. Sycamore, N, or Shauna are much better for getting new hands.

>>33251253
Sycamore is better than Hau because 7 > 3. There's not much point in trying to build up your hand up N is a fairly common card and will reset it.

I would consider cards like Skyla or even Misty's Determination as well. You want to maximise your chance to get Primarina out ASAP, so searching for specific cards can be even more useful than draw power.

>>33251302
Hm, alright I will drop the Hau's and Hala's for your Wheel of Fortune copies. I feel that. I will still have my seals, I'm sorry. It's fine for my "meta", i'm playing with my youngest brother and my manager from work. My Primo is fine here.

>>33251398
And it goes without saying, I do see the strength in Ultra ball when all my card draw grants 7. So I'll up those as well, and I'm done with Timer Ball's bullshit of not getting me a single thing too many times.

>>33249651
>prefer having all my monsters and stadiums reverse holo or full-art
>don't give a SHIT about anything that doesn't stay face-up on the field
My fields are fucking gorgeous.

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>>33249793
>Losing Forest of Giant plants is brutal for the deck because you can't put down two Wimpods during setup, Golisopod your benched one turn 1, then Wimp Out into Golisopod for massive damage, but it's not a killing blow.
You can do that with a Lele/UB and Wally, though it is less than ideal.
Wait, what set's Wally from?
Fuck.
>>33250320
>fa bulu and a garde for $10
>disappointing
>>33250372
> Fire decks that use Kiawe
Are there any that don't?

>>33251467
>Wait, what set's Wally from?

Roaring Skies and Generations, so it'll be legal for Standard because of the latter print.

>>33251467
wally is in generation, so available, but its a shit idea because golisopod wanna abuse acerola/guzma