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TCG/PTCGO General: Bedroom Eyes Fini Edition

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Old >>33176388

New?
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg
>https://pastebin.com/XDU1wEnz

TL:DR:
>Complete all Trainer Challenges to get 45 free packs (use Cheat Engine's speedhack to speed up AI games [http://www.cheatengine.org])
>Play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play.
>Farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets.
>Enter tournaments to get TRADABLE chests and packs.
>DON'T OPEN THEM.
>Trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.

What themedeck should I buy?
>Buy the Lunala one. Solgaleo upgrades into something cheap and decent ( >>32879775 (Dead) ) but is worse on it's own.

Resources
>http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/
>http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/pokemon-events/championship-series-event-results/
>http://thecharizardlounge.com/decklists/
>http://pkmncards.com/advanced/

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the forums in the trading section. Trading companies overprice cards, aim lower. Keep pack value in mind when trading.
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/
>http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Bots will snatch plain text or uncovered QRs.
>Ask for emails and send em individually.
>Post your pulls or your mom dies in her sleep.

Burning Shadows is out! Did you make any good deals yesterday or today? What do you plan to play next?
Also Worlds in 2 weeks! Do you think any rogue will do well there?
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Pulled a Marshadow GX. Is it useful?
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>>33201403
it's gonna be useful down the line for sure, and should already be good in expanded (night march)
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My GX pulls off of 6k tokens worth of packs.
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How many Golisopod do I need to run Golisopod GX/Lurantis Promo? And what ratio should I run on Lurantis Promo and GX?
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Pulled 4 Salazzle-GX, but none of Golisopod-GX or Muk-GX.
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You didnt fix the template again edition
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I like the coins that come with the new theme decks.
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Just seen a trade for two Gardes for a FA Guzma, I'm tempted since I don't care much for bling, but I know the Gardes are probably going to drop in price fairly significantly and the Guzma will probably hold pretty well.
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>>33201919

Don't what the prices are now but I was able to nab a FA Guzma for 22 packs when everyone else was asking for 30ish.
RA Gardsare like 15ish packs now?
They'll only go down.
Guzma is a staple and with no VS Seeker I can see decks running 3 or even 4.
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>>33201597
Did better than me
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>>33201597
>>33202289
such a waste of tokens. use those for tournaments tickets.
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>>33202437
I've got 200 tourny tickets and no time to get through them all lol
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>Buy Ninetales deck for baby Ninetales and the free free booster for 12 wins gives me a FA Gardevoir gx

Not bad for 500 coins.
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Two questions:

Why is there no FA Charizard only regular and RR?

If I get that upcoming Premium Trainer’s XY Collection with the Promo N and stuff does it come with a code for getting the promos in ptcgo?
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>tfw you only play PTCGO because the Magic online client is hot garbage
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Picked up a box today. My pulls were shit and I'm pretty upset
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>>33202617
>RR Darkrai-GX
>FA Guzma
>upset
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>>33202610
it's gonna be part of a separate product (there is a news about it on pokebeach)
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>>33202616
>Wizards is too retarded to just copy ptcgo

I hope they enjoy their no moneys from me
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>>33202617
Are SRs back to 2 per box?
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Alright I run rainbowforce Xerneas and I keep seeing Roadblock Sudowoodo. Is there any counter?
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>>33203102
Garbotoxin
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>>33202617
You buy a box, you should expect to be disappointed.

>>33203102
>>33203109
Or maybe Alolan Muk if you don't want to risk getting Field Blowered?
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>>33203118
Muk would probably be the better option, forgot about him.
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>>33201597

I got Z-E-R-O wasted 3000 coins, fuck this shitty game, it's time to buy codes to trade packs for the cards
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>>33203147
that is your fault. Tokens are the best resource and those locked packs in shop a newbie player trap. everyone knows they have horrid pull rates and you are gambling vs using tokens for trades/tournaments.
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>>33201597
4k here.
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is this game better than Magic?
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I scratched something like that, any ideas?
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>>33203276
They are different styles but PTCG is definitely cheaper especially if you play online only.
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Marshadow taking no prisoners.

>>33203276
Different games. Less mechanically varied, so easier to build for, much cheaper too.

>>33203283
Ho-oh can only grab EXs or GXs, so Typh and baby Incineroar are out. Ho-oh into M Charizard from Generations, throwing out Exp Shares and Wishful Batons might work.
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>>33203283

ok, forgive me quick update, I made this, added pokedex for typhlosion and baton for the energy transfer
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>>33203305

shit... forgot about this
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>>33203321

I made finally this... it's so sad ho-oh is not so broken :(
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>>33203364

maybe I should add one fliptini for incineroar's second attack for bigger chance for damage...
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Just got a nice batch of cards with my latest draw.
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>bought 8 packs

>FA ho-oh
>noivern gx
>foil porygon-z

at least the bird feels nice
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what makes a deck favored/unfavored against another deck in this game? (besides type weakness)
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>>33203439
advantage is the elo system. Hidden ranking which counts wins vs losses to determine "skill"
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Is the new Ho Oh going to be used in anything meta or is he sort of a filler card?
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>>33203464
it hits for 160. with volc thats 190 which is excellent math wise. Ho-oh will usually be the main attacker now, volc will be a supporter. for damage boost
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>>33203471
How does it hit for 160? It deals 180 for 4 energy and with volc that 210, the issue is that it costs 4 instead of 3.
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>>33203501
To be fair, you can also sacred fire which while only having base 50 can be amped a lot.

+30 per steam up and then +30 for choice band.
Meaning you can do a lot to active but with having the option to snipe for 50.
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>>33203439
Most decks have specific goals which can be countered. Usually, you will have some techs to deal with matches that you consider unfavorable.

For example, M-Ray players need a full bench to reach maximum damage. This can be countered with Parallel City or Sudowoodo, both of which reduce bench space.

Greninja Break focuses on Ability based damage, it can be countered with Ability locking cards.

EX/GX heavy decks can be countered by baby Alolan Ninetales.

You get the picture. Any strategy you build your deck around will have some sort of unfavorable match up besides the weakness factor.
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>>33203501
>>33203544
Lele into Kiawe turn one for the energy. Maybe even play baby Lurantis over Volc so you don't have to discard. Two of them and you're hitting 220, 250 with a Choice Band, one hitting anything.
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do you get mad when you lose?
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I was taking a look at the new set because Gardevoir GX, and it looked to me like Ribombee might combo decently with it. Is that something I should look into, or is it too slow?
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>>33200719
which is better Luminous Frost or Rock Steady?
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>>33203628
If it's 100% due to getting nigged by N while dominatingly winning yes.
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>>33203696
>If it's 100% due to getting nigged by N while dominatingly winning yes.


Then you weren't dominating.
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>>33203572
>>33203439
Math is important too. Say you are playing Garbodor Trashalanche but the opponent sets up without using any items.thats 0 damage. Or in MRay they cap out at 240 damage. They cannot one shot Metagross GX or Wailord ex since they have 250 hp. when the math becomes unfavorable is when a deck can have an advantage.

Decks that rely on energy denial to win, when the opponent can recur energy through things like elektrik dynamotor or bronzong metal links is another form of advantage. There are more examples but really you have to play those match ups to see it for yourself. Different decks have different interactions in strength/weakness.

>>33203628
>>33203696
N to 1-2 when I am absolutely sweeping the shit out of my opponent. When I lose in theme because I opened 1 pokemon and 7 energies. coin flip sacking like hypnotoxic laser putting my mon to sleep, then flipping tails. overall i dont take the game too seriously. Im used to losing over dumb shit and I win far more then I lose even with my shitty pet decks.
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>>33203628
flips makes me mad, so crushing hammer/hypnotoxic laser are the two things that really annoy me
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>>33203501
>>33203580
Another thing is the type weakness. You lighting isnt as common as water so the weakness advantage isnt there when you play volcanion vs volcanion all day long. Now you got ho-oh that can 1 shot and they cant cheese you with type weakness right back. difference between 1hko or 2hko can decide the entire game.
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about to play Night Striker in Theme VS.

what am I in for
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>get ETB
>holo Raichu, holo Lycanroc, reverse Diancie, Necrozma, full art Gard

Pretty solid start.
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>>33203677
Sloooow
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>>33204056
I thought it might be, but I figured I'd check to be sure. Still probably gonna buy them anyway.
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So what meme decks are you testing out?
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>>33204240
Crabrawler/Regirock.
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>>33204289
Crabrawler or Crabominable?
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>>33204240
This. I don't know what the proper tool count should be yet but damn is it scary.

>tfw you lose once because they're not playing post rotation and you are
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>>33204434
Hey man, abuse the eeveelutions while you can with this guy.
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>>33204467
Way too clunky. You need disruption and at least a 10 count of tools and 4 puzzles to live.
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>>33204240
Just that lol, I just slapped together your pic related and the new Weavile with Harambe and Lele+Wally for turn 1 evo and attack, hitting 100 turn 1 at best with fang, band and the stadium that buffs dark type attack by 10, also some disruption, gotta tune this shit a lot but seems decent and fun so far.
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>be me, anon that works at certain retail store
>basically in charge of guest service
>gotta take bunch of damaged and open pokemon premium collection, booster packs, etc
> ask co-worker "so what happens to all this stuff, do they get sent to a repackage company or something?"
> co-worker-"what? no we just throw them away"
>MY FUCKING FACE WHEN
> me-"is it cool if i open one of them and see what could have been pulled?"
> co=worker "why not? going to the trash anyways but be quick"
> decide to open snorlax gx box for the lolz
> pull fucking Holo charizard and full art pidgeot ex
> me-"cool if i keep these 2?"
> co-worker "you like this stuff anon? like i said they are going to the trash go ahead"
>fuckyes.jpg
>walking back to guest service and see burning shadow elite trainer box
>whythefucknot.jpg
>manager at guest service
>me-"can i put this on hold and price match to amazon( USD 29.31)
> manager -"sure just do it on your break"
>me-"sounds good you want me to show you how much it is?"
>manager-"nah we cool i trust you"
>break finall comes and i price match to 19.99 fuckthesystem.jpg
>19.99+employee discount
>feelsgood.jpg
>Go to car like autist and LITERALLY GET NOTHING OUT OF IT
>best pull was kingdra
>feelsbad.jpg
>later go back to chill ass co worker to return cards but keep sleeves, die, kingdra and online codes
>realize as i clock out i can do this indefinitely
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>>33204596
literally just got back into Ptcgo or else i start doing this alot sooner
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Are the new theme decks any good or should I stick with Lunala for my 500 coin purchase?
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I haven't touched this tcg since I was a kid, when neo genesis just came out and there was a genwun tcg game for the game boy color. Why the hell does everything have so much hp now?
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>>33204671
power creep
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>>33200719
Damn, Tapu Fini looks nice in that pic.
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>>33204644
A-Ninetales does fuck all in a format with no ex or gx
Lycanroc is ass
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I had an 8 game win streak with the A Ninetails deck. Cant beat Lycanroc deck though. Will get the Lycanroc deck eventually.
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Lately my misterious gifts aren't showing me nothing as a prize, is this a bug or i'm just being stupid?
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>>33204777
bug but you still get shit if you wait for it to open.
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>>33204644
Ninetales deck is okay for the two babby cards for other decks and the booster.
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>>33204708
>>33204787

Thanks for the replies--would Lunala be more worth it overall though? I like Ninetales as a pokemon, but I'm also interested in competitive, so I'm not sure.
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>>33204995
The Ninetales itself will be better in a competitive deck, where your opponent is likely to be playing EXs or GXs, but in pure theme deck format the Lunala one is the best.
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>>33205073
Good to know--thanks!
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>>33203572

This, which is why Sylveon shat on Darkrai and Garbo shits on water decks.
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>>33204787
God, I am regretting buying my Lycanroc deck online, gotta wait forever for it.
I'm just gonna grind on getting points to eventually get me an A-Ninetales deck.
I need something other than Hidden Moon to play with... it is getting rather old to play with, I love it, but... I keep reminding myself why I wanna make my own deck.
I got a Lunala-GX, trying to think of ways to make a deck around it, but... my brain isn't working well on the solution.
Other than that, I have Tapu Fini... I got Tapu Koko IRL, but that doesn't really help me since I don't play with anyone physically... yet.
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How is your pack count doing so far hordefriendos?
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>>33205312

Keep doing the challenges and open all the locked boosters. After lv 16 I think you should start getting unlocked boosters. Otherwise you can get some code cards online if you dont plan on getting boosters.

Me personally I collect and get a elite trainer box every expansion. Those codes should be enough to trade for some decent cards.

Whenever youre feeling confident make a standard deck and start getting vs rewards. I think you still get currency if you lose now.
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Pulls from two ETB and 38 loose cardboard packs.

I wasted a lot of money since I didn't pull a single Gardevoir, but opening packs is still fun and getting a chase card feels great.
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>>33205566
>38 loose cardboard packs
Jesus shit, there's wasting money then there's just throwing it in the gutter.
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>>33205566
Why not buy a Booster Box...
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>>33205505
How do you stitch screen shots like that?
Im trying to liquidate all my trade bait into GRI packs and Tapu Leles. Ever since ROS rotation was announced my card value tanked immensely. I guess thats what happens when you dont log in for a year though. Trying to get as much value from BUS because they will crash in a couple days.
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>>33205611
I literally just line the black line up. that's why it's not perfect and you can see vertical "tearing"

Not a bad approach desu. GRI will in the long run be much more valuable than BUS. I imagine even S&M will be more valuable than BUS long run because of the SR UB
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>>33205312
Lunala-GX plays nice with baby Lunala, I've got a deck running those two that seems pretty decent, but definitely not top-tier.
Only problem is it also runs 4 Leles.
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>>33205590

I had a couple of hundred dollars in BestBuy giftcards from their old computer trade in promo and few weeks ago.

I also didn't want to buy a large item and return it to cash out since I would take a while for the money to hit the bank.
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Rate my box :^)
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>>33205719
10/10. gj anon.
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>>33205719
>RR Garde-GX
>SR Stretcher
>FA Kiawe
jealous/10
All I got was some RA GX cards, with one Golispod-GX being the best of the bunch.
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>tfw you would have won if they weren't playing VS Seeker

Fuck these cheaters, be a man and play your deck right.
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>>33205719
0/10. Has a Machamp GX.
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>>33205719
>My box won't come until Monday and they haven't even shipped it.

You got some of the pulls I'm hoping for, so count me as another jelly/10.
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>>33205719
>RR Gardevoir and TWO Finis
Waifu/10
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>make a meme Salazzle/Weavile deck with wish baton
>nobody knows how to fight it
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>>33206009
So. How do you fight it?
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Why kn the fuck is he so goddamned expensive?
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>>33206050
Not benching Lele.
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>>33206067
because he's OUR BOI
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>>33206067
Also why in THE FUCK is he even more?
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>>33206067
Lysandre is rotating
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>>33206075
Becuse it says "Charizard" on the card
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>>33206067
It's mandatory in most decks, brand fucking new and a popular character

>>33206075
charitard tax
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>>33206075
>Muh Charizard
The original Charizard with Energy burn will forever inflate any Charizard ever.
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>>33206139
that card wasn't even good, it was like a tier 5 deck when haymaker was t0 and blastoise was t1.
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>>33206154
When we were kids some sparkles was all we needed to claim it GOAT
>Saw a little kid about a week ago crack an Umbreon GX
He was so stoked about it.
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>Get jackshit from guardians rising despite buying several packs since it debuted not a single GX nor legendary pokemon rare
>open pack and finally get my first GX
>Tapu Lele

my luck is really fucky sometimes.
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>>33206173
Good on him then
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>>33206194
>Open packs and get shitted on
>Continue with the abuse and open more
>Finally open Tapu Lele
>Hey that wasnt so bad!
You are stuck in a cycle.
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>>33206250
>try to save some packs for a Lele
>price just keeps going up
>"man this sucks"
>open the 6 packs I have
>get a Lele
Basically a steal
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>>33206519
What about all the previous months(years?) of opening crap? Not so much a steal on your side anymore right? You can look at just todays earnings, but if you examined your pack openings since the beginning you would see how knee deep you truly are. Anyways whatever helps you get through the day senpai. Just for the lurker newbies:opening is never advised. its a trap.
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Any y'all nerds have any lit AF decklists for Burning Shadows?
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>>33206535
Not even that guy. I just started playing PTCGO 2 months ago. Just saying, sometimes opening a pack is worth it.
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>>33206569
It's been mathed out. I believe a >ledditor has a table showing the expected value from opening a pack vs trading it. USUALLY it's negative. If you're a gambler and you like opening, obviously choose the one that is LEAST negative.
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Anyone have Nidoqueens willing to take a bunch of junk for it?
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>>33206601
The market has to get it's supply from somewhere. Trading for staples and desired cards is smarter than trying to open for them, but opening packs is how those cards even get to the market in the first place. If you want something specific, save packs and get it. Then after you have what you need why not just open stuff to see what you get? Saving up 500 packs is good and all but what do you even need that many for? SR Ultraballs and FA Ns?
That said, I really wish there was a way to grind extra cards into coins or something for PTCGO.
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>>33206872
That is actually the point. There is such an over-saturation of cards being opened, that packs have tremendous buying power. Even chests are respectable. Hell pikachu avatar packs can pick up small stuff and then flip for real packs. I sincerely doubt people who need lele are going to open random packs for it if they have 500 packs stockpiled. The issue with any player struggling to build the staples is they dont save their packs, and hope that pulling singles from packs will get them what they need. Whatever a player wants to do with their packs is fine but eventually they are going to need to save packs for a new card or whatever flavor of the month deck pops up. having 500 packs left over makes that a trivial issue to ever worry about. Blinging is more vanity, but there is profit in flipping bling cards too.
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>>33206872
The "supply" can partly be from more casual players who open every pack they get, then go and trade anything they get for more packs. Supply problems would only come about if every single player dealt optimally.

Besides, opening packs is fun
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tfw no people to play pokemon with IRL so all these packs i opened are just bulk for binders and boxes
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Why do I find Plumeria so sexy? Do I have shit taste? Shame she is such a lame card.
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>>33202763
Nah, bought a box today and only pulled RR Salazzle.

>>33202617
>RR Darkrai
>FA Guzma
>SR Rescue Stretcher
>being even the slightest pissed

Wew laddy, you're an ungrateful cunt. Pic related
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>>33202617
Oh, fuck off!
That is pretty good, if you're calling that shit... do yourself a favor and just stop bothering with boxes or even getting anything period.
Ungrateful fuck.
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>>33207110
This card is just a fucking disappointment. If you discarded nothing, it would be solid. If you discarded one, maybe it'd see some play. As it stands, this card is almost always more detrimental than good.
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>>33206919
>Hell pikachu avatar packs can pick up small stuff and then flip for real packs.
I flip them directly for GRI, 5:1.
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>>33207248
>If you discarded nothing, it would be solid.
TFG only targets the active and Xerosic onyl discards specials. If you discarded nothing Plumeria would represent an enormous amount of power creep.
I think 2 is good, and this card will see play.
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>>33207317
Its underwhelming thats its a 3 card combo and the incredible hand refiller shaymin is rotating. It will see some tech use in expanded, energy denial decks will play it regardless. but its not a staple or even a tech like xerosic was during toad format.
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>>33207351
>3 card combo
That refers to something needing three specific cards.
I can see this being used in many decks which use Harambe.
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>>33207359
No ultra ball has always been a 3 card combo. The specific cards doesnt matter. You just need any 2 to pay cost for the ultra ball being played. harambe and plumeria is a 4 card combo. 2 specific cards and 2 for discard. and of course it requires your opponent to have an energy to discard that energy anyways
but yes harambe is a decent hand refiller for standard.

actually this card is really devastating in match ups that have no energy acceleration when I think about it. Back in VirGen you wanted to open Virizion and 1 grass plus any other energy for emerald slash to set up your Genesect for the rest of the game. Things like crushing hammer would set you back 1 whole turn if you went first. The goal was turn 3 emerald slash and plumeria with vs seeker could make it so they never even get to play. Now with aqua patch, volcanion, metagross, garde etc energy acceleration has power creeped energy denial, or rather wouldnt auto lose if you kept spamming plumeria. But with some thinking this card could blow out decks that have no energy acceleration, if they still exist that is.
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>>33200719
I want to download the TCGO, but it keeps saying it can't acces USER_PROFILE or something. This also happens when I try to delete it. Does anyone here know the solution?
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>>33207012
Search for leagues, m8
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Did I fuck my MMR in ptcgo?

Because I wanted to wait for the next set to test meta changes I played a TON of theme to pass time. I used theme to do all of my daily challenges every day for a month so I was using the bad ones just for energy type and that was all I played.

So I started testing new decks today and I noticed I am no longer constantly playing mainstream meta decks anymore but people with meme decks like Honchcrow and Typhlosion. Out of the 7 games I played the only meta deck I saw was a single volcanion.

TLDR did I fuck my MMR because I played nothing but bad decks in theme for a month? If so does that thing ever reset?
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is there a list of budget decks somewhere?
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>>33208031
Theme and standard/expanded/legacy have two different elos.

This has been confirmed before I believe by a dev, it's unclear how elo is calculated between the others but your theme elo doesn't affect your other elo. It might just be more people playing within your elo causing you to play meme decks and before you were typically being paired up. Plus losing to anyone below your elo will slowly pull you down.
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>>33208117
Probably if you google a bit or use youtube.

I believe Omnipoke, YellowSwellow, and TrainerChip typically do a lot of budget decks.

Off the top of my head, the most budget deck out there is Drampa/Garbador and will probably remain affordable after rotation. Espeon/Garbodor is also pretty budget for the most part.
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Also for anyone that wants it, here's the discord link. No giveaways planned right now sorry, need to build my burning shadow collection.

https://discord.gg/chVfNWb
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This deck is really fun but I am finding Max potions to be kind of worthless. I swapped one out for another super scoop up just now but IDK if 4 seems right either. Any suggestions? I am currently testing it as a post rotation deck.

So far I am 7 wins 0 losses with it.
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Kingdra is my favorite meme of this set honestly. I just wish you could run Kingdra/Greninja in standard, standard is still just a little too fast for it.
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What should I build? Nothing in burning shadows caught my attention except for maybe Darkrai.

Should I just wait for ultra beasts?
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>>33208498
Metagross, then feed on the gardecucks. I also like Volcanion a lot with Ho-oh/Kiawe, Kiawe makes everything in the deck a good starter.
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>>33208515
Like this one?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ptcgo/comments/6fgu4a/2nd_place_metagross_gx_surprise_deck_from_madison/
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##Pokémon - 18

* 1 Drampa-GX GRI 115
* 4 Eevee SUM 101
* 1 Flareon AOR 13
* 1 Jolteon AOR 26
* 2 Espeon-GX SUM 61
* 4 Trubbish BKP 56
* 3 Garbodor GRI 51
* 1 Garbodor BKP 57
* 1 Vaporeon AOR 22

##Trainer Cards - 32

* 2 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 1 Professor's Letter XY 123
* 1 Lillie SUM 122
* 4 N DEX 96
* 1 Lysandre AOR 78
* 1 Brigette BKT 134
* 2 Field Blower GRI 125
* 1 Guzma BUS 115
* 3 Float Stone PLF 99
* 2 Level Ball AOR 76
* 1 Parallel City BKT 145
* 1 Hex Maniac AOR 75
* 3 Choice Band GRI 121
* 2 Ultra Ball ROS 93
* 4 Professor Sycamore XY 122
* 3 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 10

* 3 Double Colorless Energy FAC 114
* 7 Psychic Energy BLW 109


Fairly new to PTCGO, managed to put together this nice budget deck. Anything I should change? Haven't checked out the new expansion yet, anything I should get from there?
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>Buy 4 boosters to sacrifice lunch money
>Itsfuckingnothing.png
>Get home from uni and punch in the codes
>Itsfuckingnothing.png
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>>33208532
kinda, cut the dhelmise, add a koko promo, I run 2 vulpix as well personally because its such a bitch if it gets prized but it feels like an autowin if i start with it.
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>>33208631
That's all the changes you'd make?
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>>33208611
>expecting the cardboard Jew to deliver
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>want 3 gardevoir-gx
>damn 28 guardians rising pack for it each

Just gotta wait I guess.
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>>33202617

>Hyper Rare and a Secret Rare in the same box
>shit

I bet you are crying because you didn't get a Garde-fu.
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>>33208677
Not him but, might as well build for post-rotation. Drop the Seekers and Hex, drop the Karen since that's mainly to counter Vespiquen which is rotating, up counts of other supporters. I play Necrozma and a third psychic energy as my tech of choice over Koko, and it's already come in handy a few times, especially in the mirror match where I Black Rayed after they Tapu Cured to soften their Metagross back up. I also play 4 Candies and 3 Choice Bands as opposed to the count in that list, but that's to your taste.

>>33208806
Give it a week, wait for standard tournaments to start giving BUS packs, price will drop.
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I have almost full playset of Necrozma. What deck to build? Tried it with Honchcrow and Kiawe, but the opponent usually manages to heal after -attack-GX or not have own GX mons yet.
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>>33209011
How are you planning on building Necrozma? Card looks underwhelming in too many says to be viable.
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Hot off the meme presses, haven't lost to a gardcuck yet and i'm not even scumming by running memeseekers right before they're rotated, playing this set as god intended.
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>>33209044
Also I realized I have no stretchers lmao, -2 water energy and +2 stretchers honestly
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>>33209042
Because I can and I'm interested in it. I have other good GXs and built pretty viable decks already.
Also, seen someone with Necrozma in Metagross deck, but it lost to me before setting up correctly.
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>>33208806
I made this trade yesterday. It's crazy how the hype raises the prices. It'll be no where near its current price in a few weeks though.
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>>33208895
How would metagross deal with the alolan ninetales that can't be hurt by GX pokemon?
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>>33209170
metang kills it with one hit
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If a pokemon BREAK has an ability does it negate the ability of the stage under it? Like if I'm running Greninja BREAK on Greninja XY can I water shuriken and giant water shuriken on the same card?
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>>33209365
Yeah, you can use both. A BREAK adds to the card beneath it, it doesn't replace anything on it.
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>>33209091
I order physical code packs so that when I actually get them in the mail 2-3 weeks latter prices are normalized. Plus I save about 20%

>>33209064
The only way I see to run the card it a One-of in expanded Trev. It just speeds up the deck in some matches. It's now just 3 attacks with the break then a GX from Necrozma to finish off most decks.
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Anybody knows many many GRI packs FA sycamore is?
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>>33210294
It's worth ~5 Burning Shadows.

So I mean... maybe 10?
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>Beating an all holo/full art deck
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>>33210404
as if you could. holos make all their cards do more damage, and also makes it so they can pull all the right cards at the right time. idiot, keep dreaming.
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Are servers down???
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>>33210575
Probably crashed. I got dumped out of a match for no reason and couldn't get back in.
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>>33210575
>>33210614

I get a down for Maintenance error when I try and log in. So I guess their servers died.
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>>33201635
I dunno, I was thinking about 2 Golisopod Gx, 2 Normal golisopod, 2 Lurantis Gx and 2 promo. What do you think?
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>>33210575
>>33210635
Just managed to get back in. Try now.
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>>33210404
I did that with my Regice. Fag didn't have a fucking Ranger. He even use Hex Maniac. lel
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>>33201645
I got muk gx irl then salazzle in tcgo
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>server went down cost me a pack

FUCKING REEEEEEEE
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what do you do if you're too scared to play VS?

asking for a friend.
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>>33211381
Probably kill yourself? Plenty of shitters at low elo. it balances itself out just play
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>>33211381
Play Theme VS.
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Has anyone tried the new Gyarados yet? It's first attack could be pretty powerful
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>>33211452
too hard to use in standard, it's best used as an alt attacker in archies or expanded vespiquen lists.
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Just went to Target, these Tsareena boxes have Portugese (?) promos. Shame I couldn't use them.
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Is there any way to search for special energies?
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>>33211606
energy loto pulls special energies as well as basic.
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>>33211606
Mallow, energy lotto, teammates
Shining mew in japan can get 2 of any energy
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>>33211596
That's italian
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>play N
>dead draw

Going to love the new format.
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>>33211699
>not playing the vastly superior misty's determination to get exactly what you want
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>>33208274
Was running vikavolt with that deck and now that Acerola & scoop up are out I'm gunna build this one.
Jelly of the FA Acerola though.
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>>33209185
Do you just scoop vs fire? Maybe run that stadium that gives steel no weakness?
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>>33212118
I had a close match running Metagross against Volc earler. Necrozma pulled through for me, got all his Volcs and Turts into KO range for a single swing for Metagross and proceeded to get a few KOs by itself. You can try running Altar of the Sunne but I don't trust it to not get Field Blowered or counter stadiumed.
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>>33203438
U like the feeling of a bird? Cock perhaps?
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>>33212163
next level tech here guys, we playin the deck out game btw
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>>33212220
That sounds dumb, but I came second at a League Challenge a few weeks ago with a Jolteon EX and Glaceon EX deck, where three of my four wins were by decking out an opponent who couldn't hit me.
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>>33212220
that thing can only one shot with choice, and ho-oh gx has lightning weakness not water.

>>33212163
ill look into necrozma. At least they need to stadium/blower or they cant one shot if sunne is up. And I love the metagross vs gard gx match up only thing is volc.
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>>33204596
link to the ETB?
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>>33212292

Since Metagross already runs A Vulpix you can add in a Bady A Ninetales and two water energy over the typical two psychic. I've never test this since I just scoop online if I see a volc with Metagross.
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>tfw to dumb too play Standard
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>>33212836
>I've never test this since I just scoop online if I see a volc with Metagross.
I scoop after the first two-prizer is taken, the MG/Volc matchup is based on momentum and it can really go either way.
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Am I right in thinking if I start playing irl again it'll go hand in hand with this and I'll be able to use codes in any boosters I get to get cards in PTCGO?
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>>33214060
Yes
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>>33212836
Baby Ninetales still falls easily to three steam ups on a baby Volc. I'm kinda curious if Araquanid could work as a tech. If you see you're matched against Volc, just abandon all efforts on bringing out any Metagross and just try to get the water spider out asap.

>>33214060
Yep. Keep in mind though PTCGO has in-built global trading, and it's always better average value to trade virtual boosters for specific cards.
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>order two booster boxes and etb on eBay a month ago
>"will arrive day of release!"
>still not here
>tomorrow is Sunday
Jesus Christ I just want my disappointment.
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>>33214146
>opponent neglects board state for araquanid
>kill it with a lele
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>>33214233
very true
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>>33214233
damn you right
rip the dream ;_;7
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>>33211381
I play several matches a day, but I still get pre-match jitters irl and online. Just play a consistent deck you enjoy and do your best.
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>>33212877
>Too gay
Ftfy
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>>33214680
So fixated on Peepee's, can't complete a turn.
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Anyone test baby Ninetales against Metagross yet?
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Everyone is playing fire energy disruption on ladder
Kill me please
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What sorts of additions would you like for the online client? Personally my wish list is
>other table choices/unlockable ones
>viewable "favorites" binder so you can enjoy shitter cards you collect but love
>special format events
>anime player character and npcs
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Just won a match against Gard with a Dusknoir deck, ironically, it's the only match i've won.

Advices? Just a fun deck tho

##Pokémon - 18

* 2 Drampa-GX GRI 160
* 2 Murkrow GRI 78
* 2 Honchkrow GRI 79
* 2 Zorua BKT 89
* 2 Zoroark BKT 91
* 1 Tapu Koko PR-SM SM31
* 2 Duskull BUS 51
* 1 Dusclops BUS 52
* 2 Dusknoir BUS 53
* 2 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 137

##Trainer Cards - 34

* 2 Energy Loto GRI 122
* 2 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130
* 2 Wally ROS 94
* 1 Lillie SUM 122
* 2 Rare Candy SUM 129
* 4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 2 Special Charge STS 105
* 1 Skyla BKT 148
* 1 Field Blower GRI 125
* 2 Guzma BUS 115
* 1 Altar of the Moone GRI 117
* 3 N FAC 105
* 3 Choice Band GRI 121
* 2 Float Stone BKT 137
* 4 Ultra Ball FAC 113
* 2 Professor Kukui SUM 128

##Energy - 8

* 4 Double Colorless Energy NXD 92
* 4 Rainbow Energy BKT 152

Total Cards - 60
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>>33214975
Ranked and customizable tables.
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>>33214975
Ban all players who spam the trade section. Keep up trade ratio. Shit ratios will get you warnings if you SPAM. Good ratios will have less token costs. Trades can be locked for the week but you can only post a few less. This way card values are more competitive. The problem with pub is there wont always be every single card on public market 100% of the time. But it might pop up once a week but the 2 day cost is very heavy especially on cards that rarely in demand. So by keeping trades up longer you can get better value since people will undercut each other constantly. Right now the way to get advantage is to simply spam public every 8 hours. No newbie is going to scroll all the way up, but they will take offers around the 1 hour mark since its easier to find. Actually the entire public market interface needs to be reworked. The loading is atrocious. Ban accounts that are obviously multies. Those accounts that put up 100 offers of 1 evolutions pack for your tapu lele for 48 hours are using multies to save their token costs by accepting their own trades right before it times out. This is a known exploit that still isnt being dealt with.

A way to turn off animations like it was 3 years ago. these animations slow the game down and caused many bugs. For fucks sake celebi prime is still bugged after all these years.
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Weavile is the sleeper of the set. If they release good help for it it'll be the new Garb.
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>>33215195
It has damage issues in closing the game out, and the opponent can always play around it by only using 1 ability pokmon on field. 60 sounds nice but it cant close a game that way like Trashalanche can. it needs a partner to move counters or punish them for having 6 counters. but it is a sleeper card
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>>33215302
I'm running it with Salazzle right now and it seems pretty good. I'm waiting for Lele or Spiritomb to come out to pair it with Necrozma.
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Really getting sick of how fucking rigged N is in the client. I never, ever get a decent hand off it while my opponent gets the perfect setup, no matter if it's 6 or 1 card.
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>>33215661
That's how N be.
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>>33215661
N has been more kind to me this format. IN previous years N would always destroy me. You are not alone in this sentiment. Try running stuff like oranguru or octillery. They can be the perfect counter vs N.
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>>33215822
That's why I love legacy so much, it's really hard to get bricked there with things like Smeargle around.
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>>33202617
>full art guzma and SR stretcher
Yea fuck off those are both staples and you got the blingy version. I'd take those pulls in a heartbeat
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>>33205785
What's wrong with N-ing you every turn, anon? Does that cause problems for you or something?
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>>33206154
But it had the biggest printed numbers, which is all that mattered.
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>>33214949
I've tested Metagross against baby ninetails, just keeping a metang ready and using guzmas makes baby ninetails worthless
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>>33207302
Woo, I need to get in on that, that's like 550 tokens for a tradable pack.
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>>33216268
558-574, depending how long it takes to get bites.
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>>33216285
>>33216268
Notably, trading one pack for 5 Pikachu packs is also a good deal because it lets you break down a pack into 3-5 specific trainers without having to put the pack up to trade for those trainers, which succeed far less often than putting one or two pikachus up for the ones you need.
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>>33216307
this. i picked up guzma, acerola, kiawe with pikachu packs.
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why do people even trade for pikachu packs?
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Why the fuck is Forest of the Giant plants not banned right away? Literally 3 matches in a row. Lost turn 0. didnt even draw a card
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>>33216846
True. Guess to give players time to get rid of their cards?
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>>33216846
>didn't see a single fogp deck between the 2nd week of the guardians meta and the day they announced the ban
>suddenly see tons of people playing them
>when I switch to garb or volc I never run into them

enjoy it while it lasts coinflip niggers.
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>Started playing Ptcgo again
>Buy Elite Trainer Box of Burning Shadows
>Trade all 8 packs for everything to make Baby Alolan Ninetales
>Play Vs
>15 games late im at ~450 Points

Seriously people, y'all depend on GX's and EX's way too much
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How good are the GX pokemon this expansion?
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>just bought 4 from Walmart

What should I expect?
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I love flipping tapu lele gx.
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>>33217680
Jank? Kidding I wish you luck anon.
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>>33217694

Eh, not that bad right?
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>>33217731
>that delicious Olivia
You did well anon, you did well.
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>>33217769

I haven't played or bought the TCG since I got a pack with an electric type Tyrrannitar EX.

So I don't know what the heck is a GX, but I'm guessing it's the same as EX :[
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>>33217796
GX is basically EX. That marshadow is about 13$
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I got a bunch of cards i have no plans on using
They include FA Darkrai, 3 Grenjinja Breaks, FA Shaymin, should i trade them and build standard decks?
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>>33217852
sell them for Guardians Rising (easiest) or trade them for a deck(harder as people will overvalue their shit).
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>>33217820
What's the list of rarity?

Hyper, then ultra, then secret rare?
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>>33217820
>>33217903

How many of each rare does one box have?
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>>33217903
Well you have the regular art GX, then the Fullart GX, then they added the Secret Hyper Rare foil which is sometimes known as Rainbow Rare because the white background and different colors look like a rainbow.
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>>33217959
Ah, I see. Thanks.

Should I try and sell it to my local card shop?

I don't really play the game, I just bought the pack out of nostalgia. And I started playing TCGO on my iPad when I'm on the shitter.
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Does anybody have Alph Lithograph for trade on PTCGO?
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>>33218010
You could sell it but a vendor will give you like 50% value. If you keep it sleeve it up so it doesnt get damaged. Have you seen the Evolutions packs? They are very much like the original base set in card design. Might be a good pick for nostalgia, though a bad pick for value as its a pretty bad set.
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>>33218090
What evolution pack?

TCGO or actual physical copy?
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>>33218153
Both physical or ingame. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Evolutions_(TCG) basically modernized reprints from the first base set
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I want something besides a GX box.
I want a golisopod figure box, that's what I want.
Also this new expansion has some really great artists, and that zygarde is sexy as hell.
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>>33218090
What evolution pack?

TCGO or actual physical copy?
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>>33218166
Ah, I don't think I'm going to collect those.

I'm have more or less moved to online; another reason, besides nostalgia, I bought the packs was for the code inside the booster.

If there was an easier way of obtaining those codes I wouldn't buy that many boosters. I've probably bought around 10 packs from Walmart this week.
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>>33218282
Flipping is probably the easiest way to make more packs. Ebay you can buy codes if you want to drop money, make sure they email it to you and always check their feedback.
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>>33218337
What and where to flip code?
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>>33218365
Something simple. Buy octillery for 1 guardians pack. resell for 2-3 guardians OR burning shadows. lot of people in that market but its extremely easy to get into once you start up
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>>33218379
Octillery for 1 guardian pack? Is that on TCGO?
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>>33217796
>So I don't know what the heck is a GX, but I'm guessing it's the same as EX :[
It's EX, but evo dudes still need to evo and they get a special once-per-game move.
Overall I think they're better than EX.
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>>33211952
I changed it up a bit as I played more. I am up to 13 wins and 1 loss with this deck the 1 loss was from not having a nongx against baby Ninetails. I actually could have won too by decking my opponent who could not kill anything with the Ninetails but I missplayed with my N bouncing the wrong poke to my hand to have more cards in my deck to shuffle in.I still am wondering if I should put another Raikou in the deck over one of those scoop ups for more control against lock out like Ninetails.

Either way it is really fun and I am winning against decks who are still using prerotation cards like VS seeker so IDK if that says something.

Side not Jolteon is a Norse god right now and a vast number of players just quit when they see it on the board because they just net deck and never think they will see one.
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English release when?
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Need kingdras from burning shadows any one want to trade some for some of these packs?
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Any dank Slowbro-EX decks?
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>>33218626
Yea Jolteon is the king atm.
The amount of times I've seen volcanion decks quit turn one. Really satisfying. similar to how geninja break decks shit themselves over glaceon.
I'm glad I kept my Raikous from a couple of decks ago. Good idea when people will be betting on baby ninetales and nothing else.
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>>33218985
>greninja decks
>shit over glaceon

Lol.
Greninja doesn't give a shit about glaceon, they just throw shurikens until it's dead.

PS: Jolteon is still pretty shit tier, just lysander/guzma around it and if they're cheeky enough to try to sweep with one jolteon then take the gg free win with ranger.
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>>33200719
>evolve seven fairies challenge
>fill energyless evo challenge scaffold deck with fairies that evolve
>first match
>guy actually sees that i'm not playing to win and presses pass until I evolve everyone and concede
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>>33218014
which one you want
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>>33218985
I am thinking now maybe adjusting and adding fighting fury belts into the mix to try and keep Koko in the 2 hit threshold so it can rotate around easier without him dying and setting me back on my win clock.

Lost my second game with the deck to Guard, again it was my fault as I though she had 200 HP and not 230. So right now I am 14w to 2losses with it.
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>>33219183
struggled with Cbanded. A.Ninetales gx a bit.
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>>33219035
Aye I know. It's the shit people who don't know that, who flock to the deck cuz it's muh old worlds deck.
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>>33218626
i really want to try out tapu koko after rotation, and you list seems like a good template
i didn't rly take exp share into account when i was listing useful cards, i was thinking of using FFBs and a 1-1 Electrode line to refill the energies shoud i lose a tapu koko at some point
was also thinking of running less energies since ideally, you always keep them on board
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>>33219263
Maintaining the energies are really important due to Kokos squishyness I have found. I kind of want to find spots for 3 shares and 3 FFBs it's just hard finding the spot right now for 1 more FFB.
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>>33219098
Evolve challenges are always easiest. Damage next easiest because running into a single SE can do it.

Knockouts hardest because you gotta get them basically 1 and 2 at a time, maybe 4 if in theme, but people always concede.
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Who would win:
>A four pack of lava spewing firebeasts
>One waterbug
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Would any competitive deck ever play more than 1 kiawe? Its a 1 of at best right?
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>>33220118
Maybe two? If your strategy revolves around a successful turn 1 Kiawe you don't want to run the risk of it being prized. And if you hit a point later in the game where you're sure you can go a turn without being attacked it could be useful again, but that's an unlikely and very situational usage.
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>>33220118
What kind of deck are you trying to run?
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>>33220332
None, just cant decide if I should trade off this second FA I got or keep it just in case
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>>33220337
That's what you are having trouble deciding on? Just trade it.
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>>33218707

Just put up any one of them and ask for four common Kingdras.
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how do I stop feeling depressed when I lose in VS
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>>33220637
Save your salt for event matches.
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>>33208004
The thing is, stores stopped supporting the pokemon tcg here, so no one plays, i have a giant collection from when i played and i keep opening packs but i only have 1 friend to play with which gets boring and to play any sort of game i'd have to drive about 70km
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>>33220637
>Lose a shit-ton in VS by auto concede at the beginning of the game (like 10-20 times)

>Get matched with players who auto concede, and 5 year olds

>???

>Profit
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>>33220880
>playing to face baddies and not have exciting and fun games vs good players
>not aiming to gid gud

scrub
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>>33220918
how does one "git gud" at a game with literal coin flips?
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>>33220962
and 99% reliant on rng for card hands
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>>33220962
>>33221006
on top of actual decision-making, the two big skills that come with a game like this is odds management and deckbuilding

deckbuilding will allow you to have consistent good hands (sure you'll dead draw once in a while, but you build your deck in a certain way for it to happen as least as possible)
odds managements is about all the little things you can do to avoid relying on rng or losing it (for example: deck thinning so you put odds on your side to not lose to late-game N)

there is a reason there are players who consistently make top 32/top 8/worlds for years; you won't win EVERY games, and you'll lose to worse players or by dead drawing, but your goal is to be as consistent as possible over a long period of time
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>>33221079
Lel
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>>33221079
I desperately want to believe this, but every game feels like such a coinflip to me. Often it feels like none of my decisions matter, and whoever has the better draw just wins on the spot. It's the same feeling I got when I played Hearthstone and it's what ultimately drove me away from the game. I feel as though I have no agency in these types of games.
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>>33221163
What format do you play, and what deck?

Going off a tangent here, but I'd also like to say:
People tend to think that decisions matter more in slower-paced formats. For example, whenever you'll see people talk (or read articles) about Garbodor-
Ssableye in expanded, they'll say the deck requires a very skilled player to do well with it at a tournament, and that deck is hella slow. You also have to possess a good knowledge of every matchup and long-term decision making whenever you use junk hunt.

You also have old time players saying old formats were very skill-based, because they had a lot of options but also were slower in general (talking EX/DPP/HGSS eras here).

Anyway, have you tried getting into legacy? It's a slower-paced format that is really fun imo, altho the cost to get into it can be a bit discouraging at first.
-- end of the tangent --

I kinda felt the same way as you in the previous and super fast paced format, but I think Garbodor's influence on standard has been very healthy in that regard since it punishes people who just rushes through their deck without really thinking about it. The loss of VS Seeker will also force people to be more cautious in their discards/early game aggression after rotation.

Finally, you might wanna try decks that play the long-con, as they reward game knowledge and decision making (for example, Primal Groudon in expanded, but that one is annoying to build since it really wants Tropical
Beaches).

I'll also mention that no matter how good you get, there are still some bullshit mechanics in that game that will make you powerless, such as turn 1 itemlock, but that is only a real issue in expanded at it stands.
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I... uhh...what?
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>>33221525
i have no idea if that's fair or not but jfc so much stuff
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>>33221525
Probably one of those items that was only available for gems for a single week. There's a few of them, like the Ancient Power Box or the Victini Sleeves, and hardcore collectors sometimes pay a shitton for them.
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>>33221525
https://www.reddit.com/r/ptcgo/comments/3ulwpa/why_do_the_mewtwovictini_boxsleeves_cost_so_much/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pokemon-TCG-Online-Victini-Digital-Mangas-amp-Victini-Digital-caja-de-cubierta-/301842018714?_ul=EC&nma=true&si=yWW9ZjIAN4kRlAZdneo90KdthZA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
https://www.reddit.com/r/ptcgo/comments/3f3olk/valuable_sleevesdeckboxes/
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Do you think a Machamp-GX deck would be viable? With a Choice Band and a Strong Energy, his GX move can OHKO Gardevoir GX. And I guess you could use Carbinks to help setup. Could it work?
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>>33221859
Why does good stuff only come out of locked packs ffs
Right before this i got an Espeon from another locked pack
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>>33221859
Nah. Psychic weakness too big of a hurdle to get over. But if you want to meme and dream, more power to you.
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>>33221890
also is there any deck i can do with lurantis? i love the actual pokemon and wouldnt mind doing something with it
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>>33221890
Holy shit!

>>33221859
Damn, got 4 of that guy. don't like it very much
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>>33221859
its literally the worst GX card. Worse than Kommo-o
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>>33222031
Even worst than Snorlax??
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>>33222069
>snorlax
>bad

Kiawe is a thing now m8.
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>>33222114
>tfw no water type kiwae for wishiwashi
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>>33222142
I would probably quit. Lapras would have too much fun, I hate when Lapras is allowed to have fun.
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>>33222114
Besides you can destroit even with one Tapu Lele, energy is not the biggest problem, but the sleep condition.
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>>33222249
>tfw DI win everything with the Gardevoir-GX meme but get rekt'd live by Lapras-chan
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do I have ANY CHANCE AT ALL to win in Theme VS if I don't play Hidden Moon?
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>>33222815
im on a 6 game with streak with the greninja Basic blue
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>>33218676
Never she is way too sexy they would have to censor her art
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>>33221414

Is Primal Groudon the most expensive competitive deck online?

Tropical Beach is ~150 packs. Some printings go for $100-$175 physical too.
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>>33221079
>there is a reason there are players who consistently make top 32/top 8/worlds for years;

I think you are grossly missing one key fact. Those pro players are good, but they invest all their time, and money into those events. They live and breathe pokemon as a job, as a lifestyle. Their dedication is something more than what a random who wins their regionals and falls off the face off the planet would put forth. Their is skill in deck building, and risk taking with moves for KOs but to name drop pro players people always fail to mention that those same pro players invest so much into the game than it just being a hobby. I would tell any player who wants to "git gud" how much are you willing to devote of your existence into a card game? How important is it for you to follow meta trends, learn the newest deck, travel to events?
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>>33221525
That is also a really low ball offer. such a shit trade from someone "wealthy".
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>>33222815
Hidden moon is strong but not unbeatable. If you play a rogue theme deck choice chances are your opponent wont know how to grind against it. The problem from hidden moon has always been lunala one shotting everything in the game, and darkness weakness being a non issue
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I just finished Trainer Challenge, and this is what I'm able to put together after opening all of the free packs.

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 11

* 1 Alomomola GRI 36
* 2 Articuno ROS 16
* 1 Blastoise-EX EVO 21
* 1 Gyarados-EX BKP 26
* 3 Magikarp AOR 19
* 1 Gyarados AOR 21
* 2 Gyarados AOR 20

##Trainer Cards - 36

* 1 Brooklet Hill GRI 120
* 2 Rough Seas PRC 137
* 2 Crushing Hammer EPO 92
* 2 Brock's Grit EVO 74
* 2 Wally ROS 94
* 2 Lysandre FLF 90
* 3 N DEX 96
* 3 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 4 Ultra Ball FLF 99
* 2 Switch EVO 88
* 1 Town Map BKT 150
* 2 Pokémon Center Lady FLF 93
* 1 Skyla BKT 148
* 1 Weakness Policy PRC 142
* 4 Dive Ball PRC 125
* 1 Enhanced Hammer GRI 162
* 1 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 2 Exp. Share NXD 87

##Energy - 13

* 6 Water Energy XYEnergy 9
* 4 Double Colorless Energy NXD 92
* 3 Splash Energy BKP 113

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******


Is this salvageable or should I dumpster it and try harder next time
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>>33223193
just focusing on a gyarados deck for now. get 1 octillery
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>>33222815
Yeah. You do fine so long as you're not facing hidden moon.
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>>33223301
So, no then.
>>
So, I just absolutely wrecked by this.
Had a response for everything I could do.
Is it that good or am I that bad?


##Pokémon - 13

* 1 Eevee SUM 101
* 2 Rayquaza GRI 106
* 4 Cosmog SUM 64
* 3 Lunala GRI 61
* 2 Lunala-GX PR-SM SM17
* 1 Espeon-GX SUM 61

##Trainer Cards - 37

* 3 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 3 Professor's Letter XY 123
* 4 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 2 Lillie SUM 122
* 3 Skyla BKP 122
* 4 Rare Candy SUM 129
* 2 Nest Ball SUM 123
* 2 Guzma BUS 115
* 1 Enhanced Hammer GRI 124
* 2 Altar of the Moone GRI 117
* 2 Choice Band GRI 121
* 3 Max Potion BKP 103
* 2 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
* 2 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 2 Professor Kukui SUM 128

##Energy - 10

* 8 Psychic Energy Energy 5
* 2 Double Colorless Energy FAC 114

Total Cards - 60
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>>33223329
Dude like 1 in 8 people are playing it. That's 7 games of winning. I do it all the time. Just don't expect a high streak.
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Should I buy Gardememe and other SRs now or wait a bit longer for prices to stabilize?
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Is this worth it? is there flip potential?
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According to the card value guide, this trade is exactly equal (1.5+2.5=2+2)

Don't take it because you should aim to be one pack positive in the card value guide with any trade you do.

http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html
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>>33223332
>basically the deck I've been working on just with pre-rotation cards and no Leles
Well good to know it's wrecking someone.
>>33223514
Sylveon is pretty much a dead deck right now. While it's possible it could see a resurgence I wouldn't put too much faith in that investment.
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>>33223514
>Sylveon
top kek
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>>33223514
Not for two Drampa.
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>>33223482
Definitely wait. Price is dropping constantly, should stabilize soon. I overpaid because I'm impatient and also got two full art Gardes from tradelocked packs so felt compelled to get two more.
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>>33223482
dont buy BUS cards, but buy w/e else you want while the price of BUS is super high
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>>33223482
Get rid of you BUS packs asap. Dont get BUS cards because they are massively inflated but they will drop in 1-2 weeks.
>>
What is the best partner for Necrozma GX in Standard/Expanded in your opinion?
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>>33224108
Works pretty well as a Metagross tech. Might be fun in Expanded with Gardevoir ND.
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>>33224108
I saw it with a honedge, that doubles the damage counters. Was pretty interesting to say the least.
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>>33224299

In expanded you can play it as a 1 of in Trev to close out games quicker

>>33223332
I say you played bad or had a bad matchup. The deck looks like it plays like the old M Gardevoir deck. Powerful if set up but with a long ramp and a fragile board state. I played a deck similar to this, so it might be net-decked from somewhere, and stomped it. I think the only meta deck it would be good against is Garb if you can set up with few items. Everything else should be able to deal with it.
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>get a completely dead hand
>opponent gets a nut hand
this is my experience every game in Theme
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So Necrozoma with Metagross GX. Necrozoma can hit 180 for volcanion Meta sweeps Gard GX. memeish or next level meta once hex maniac rotates?
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How many burning shadows or guardians rising do you reckon i could get for an SR Lightning and an SR psychic?
People are offering like, 1 or 2 each in public but i think that's a bit low no?
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>>33224918
Necrozma is good as a one or two of in a Metagross list but you shouldn't be running more than 3 or 4 psychic energy in that deck Metagross is better in most matchups.
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>>33224920
try 6 GRI then go lower from there. check what other people are SELLING theirs for. Thats your competition. Not the guys offering 2 packs. ignore them thats a trap always check what the other sellers are settling at.
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>>33224918
Necrozma can hit for 190 without a Choice Band which even helps with those pesky Lapras and Zygardes. It's definitely helped me out a lot. Great for an across-the-board blast in the mirror match too. I tried a Metagross deck with Araquanid thrown in as suggested earlier in the thread, three times now it's won me games against Volc and Typhlosion.
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