/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

Remember to love your partner and to protect their smile

>>25046096
I took like two in-game weeks before bothering to get mine back after the credits.

>>25046088
Bulbasaur + Charmander
Worked pretty well. They both get multiple ranged attacks, though I neglected to get energy ball, sludge bomb, and flamethrower until the last possible chance before I couldn't get them because I was locked into the Tree of Life and Dark Matter dungeons.

>>25046088
Snivy/Fennekin. I think I've mentioned why - Snivy gets great physical moves and can run Energy Ball for a little sniping, while Fennekin can wipe floors quickly with Heat Wave and snipe with Flamethrower/Psybeam.

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>>25046088
>What's your starter duo?
I provide bastion to that smirk

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>>25046234
good taste

>>25046258
>>25046234
Wow, lot of people with best pair here. Who's player and who's partner with you guys?

>>25046290
MC is Snivy and Fennekin is my partner

>>25046290
The usual, >>25046295

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>>25046088
>What's your starter duo?
Only the best.

>>25046088
>What's your starter duo?
The quiz chose Turtwig for me so I just went with him. Plus I thought it was amusing playing as a starter that sprouts a tree on its final evo in a game centered around a giant tree of life. Then I picked Fennekin as a partner because she a cute. Little did I know how much her sniping skills would save me.

>>25046088
Froakie starter and Torchic partner. Which was fine for most of the game, but I'm gonna have trouble with Submerged Cave tomorrow.

Mudkip (Me) and Chikorita (Partner)

It's what I took in the previous games.

Earth Power and Petal Blizzard room clearing power in the Postgame.

In Sky, it was Shinx and Cyndaquil. Since Shinx isn't available in Super, I played as Chespin instead. It worked out and I finally figured out my favorite gen 6 starter as a result.

don't get me wrong though, I still want to cherish the special doggo I never had

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkliVUqRjOM

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>What's your starter duo?

Blue: Eevee and Chikorita
Sky: Bulbasaur and Eevee
Super: Bulbasaur and Fennekin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq4fCcwTrWs

Hard to believe the original game came out ten years ago.

>>25046088
>Side topic: What's your starter duo?
Mudkip and Riolu
>Last two times I played EotS I got Riolu as MC
>Get Riolu as partner in the game where the partner ends outshadowing the MC

>>25046394
Bring pounce and stawaway wands and don't be afraid to use them. Although it doesn't really apply to Submerged Cave, pounce wands are really useful for jumping on mons with room-hitting moves. If you're right next to them, then they won't use the room-hitters.

Is there any way to restore grimy good?

>>25046919
I don't think so. But you can eat it by the stairs so you can immediately remove the effects.

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UH

GUYS

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>>25047070
Another pic of it

I was able to KO it, but what the fuck? I'm starting to get scared now, what if my game eats my save?

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>>25047070
NEW
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>>25047083
What about red half-Skarmory near the bottom?

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>>25047104
It was a Swinub.

Wait a second, gen 2's shiny Swinub was blue, what does it mean?

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>>25046088
>>25046234

The best OTP and the best duo

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Is there a list of Pokemon I can recruit somewhere? I'm about to start RRT (my first PMD) and I was hoping I can get my Pokefu.

>>25047326
If you want Jumpluff, you have to wait until the post game to get one from Pitfall Valley.

Alternatively, you can go into Remains Island, a Wonder Mail only dungeon, and recruit one before the postgame. The downside to this is you have to fight off high level pokemon to get to Hoppip, the strongest being level 30+. You won't beat the main story before then unless you grind.

Also, during your playthrough, the credits are NOT the end of the game. Theres a ton of post credits dungeons.

>>25047349
Alright, thanks. What other PMD games have Jumpluff?

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>>25047372
I WONDER WHAT DUSKNOIR'S FAVOURITE COLOUR IS

>>25047372
All the ones that aren't called Gates to Infinity.

Luckily for you, in Sky Hoppip is found in the fifth dungeon. Or, if you're really impatient and want Jumpluff ASAP, you could just cheat and give yourself a super easy mission an hour or two in where one will join. I don't recommend this, as they join at level 1 and won't have much in the way of moves

>>25047390
Oh, and lucky you anon, Jumpluff is in one of the only IQ groups with Nature Gifter. You can use your favorite to powerlevel your other favorites with Joy Seeds!

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o-ok
I guess I'm using save states

>>25047424
Change your save type to Flash 256k or whatever the highest number there is

>>25047424
Save states wont work.

Eventually you'll have to save for good. Trying to quicksave will boot you to the title screen, with no save.

Just try to run Blue Rescue Team instead, if you can. Or do what >>25047435 said, and delete ALL files having to do with the game aside from the game itself. I recommend just playing Blue instead

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>It's a green emera

>>25047424
>>25047435
>>25047441
Slightly unrelated, but you're likely to encounter the same issue with Pokemon Emerald and maybe FRLG too. Pokemon games use a different save format than VBA's default, so you have to change them manually.

>>25047447
Emerald is still playable and able to be saved, but it's as if the internal battery is dead. No daily events will happen.

I still recommend just getting a DS emulator, you'll need to do it anyways if you decide to play Sky.

>>25047441
I just checked, and save states are working for me. Is there a quicksave feature ingame that you could be thinking of? I'm using the save function built into VBA.

>>25047454
In game, there's a Quicksave feature. Using this when saves fail boot you to the title screen.

You are FORCED to quicksave upon entering certain dungeons. Therefore, the game is unplayable past a certain point.

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>>25047446
>It's a green emera
>It's a high-end map revealer

>>25047465
That doesn't make sense, if I just played off of VBA's savestates, it would count as playing the game in one go without turning the power off.

Reloading a VBA/other emulator savetate doesn't turn the game off.

>>25047476
I'm talking about playing normally in Red. Eventually, before you enter Buried Relic, you are forced to do an IN GAME quicksave.

Go ahead and try to use your in game quicksave by opening your menu and going Others>Quicksave or Give Up>Quicksave. The end result is what happens when you try to enter the Buried Relic, which you must do to gain access to nearly all of the post credits content.

>>25047531
Draco Meteor?

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>>25047070
>>25047083
uh, that's funny
Well, I did happen to get something similar, and I've seen other people having the same problem, but it was just some of the Pokémon sprites with some of the pixels out of place. And they did change like that. After defeating them they disappeared too. I don't think you should get worried too much, but I guess it would be interesting to find out how it happens. You happened to have a particularly cool result though.

I think the pink thing is supposed to be part of Cyndaquil's sprite. There was a Cyndaquil near to it and it was strange as well.

>>25047576
Close, that's the second-costliest. Number one is really unremarkable.

>>25047585
the game seems fine for now, still doing this run though. Your pic, that's an Eevee combined with what?

>>25047590
Relic Song?

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>>25047593
I'm not sure. I think part of it might be the head of a pink Cyndaquil, and maybe its paws too.

>>25047593
>Relic Song?

Nope, it's Gunk Shot

>>25047070
>>25047083

That's the sprite glitch. It's a really rare but harmless bug that happens to the graphics of some mons, where their palettes get swapped and each animation makes them glitch.
I've had it happen to me on Rescue team in Joyous Tower; a Chikorita and a Squirtle got glitched and their palettes swapped. Chikorita was brown and Squirtle was normal, and suddenly Squirtle became green and Chikorita was normal.
It goes away after one is defeated. Not sure what causes it, maybe a spawning issue or something.

>>25047814
I had quicksaved on the floor, and loaded the save. I saw that not too long later. Maybe it's a bug relating to being on a floor for so long after a Quicksave?

>>25047822
Maybe, but I don't think so. I never quick save and it happened. It's just a random bug.

>>25047857
I don't think it can be random. I guess the best way to figure out what exactly is happening is learning how the game manages the RAM and analyze it when it happens.

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>>25046088
Charmander and Froakie, what I had in X and Y.

>inb4 >Charmander
I know I know it's everyone and their mother's favorite Pokemon but I still love it just the same.

I'm debating on whether I should evolve them or not since these 2 are one of the few starters that drastically change upon fully evolving. Moveset wise especially. At least my autism of evolving them is quelled by the fact that these 2 are fully evolved on the boxart.

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OK. So here's my problem. I'm at Grand Master already, the only available mission is to find Zygarde. I have spoken to every Pokemon, encountered them in dungeons as enemies, recruited Mewtwo and the Lake Trio of emotions, and no one in any of the towns are willing to talk to me anymore. I don't even encounter them in random dungeons where they are either traveling or fainted.

Did I miss my chance to recruit these pokemon?

>>25048713
Or do I have to restart my game?

>>25048713
Some shit are just traveling pokemon that you're not going to have to care about until they're on your ticker. Some like Kecleon you're just not going to get until you talk to them later with more connected. Some you don't need to a request to go get, as in any dungeon with a legendary's face you can do. From the looks of that you haven't even done Mysterious Geoglyph, because by completing there you just get Genesect for free. Now, unless I see you with 100% map completion and still don't have everyone (Which would be a fucked up glitch), get outta here and don't even think about restarting.

>>25048739
Oh so they'll be in dungeons I haven't ventured into yet? My maps 83.0% complete.

>>25048748
There's probably a few travelers that snuck in behind the initial wave, so you'll get those later. For now just do some legendary fights, some treasure dungeons, just keep going until you run out of legendary faces on the map selection. You can probably guess when you get to fuck with Destiny Tower and Arceus.

>>25048713

You never miss a chance to recruit Pokemon.

If finding Zygarde is your only mission then completing it should allow you to see where some traveling Pokemon are.

Most of the legendaries you shown should have locations where their mugshots are on the area selection screen.

And the genies are hiding out in a certain dungeon, if you encounter them and they get away you have to enter the dungeon again to try to get them.

>>25048762
So all those other Pokemon are in Zygarde's place having a party?

How do I get more vitamins? Is there a way to farm for them?

>>25049040
Why, your friendly local gold merchant, of course!

What's everyone's least favorite moment in each of the games?

>>25049612
Realizing all that's left to do is the bullshit dungeons.

Reminds me,
>mfw the game shows Sacred Ruins as "Very Difficult" while many restriction-free <20 floor dungeons are "Super Difficult"

>>25046088
Phanpy + Totodile

Being phanpy is suffering in Sky

>>25049856
Pretty sure that the difficulty's determined by the strength of the Pokemon in the dungeons, not by how hard it'd actually be to complete. If you kept your level in Sacred Ruins, then it wouldn't be much of a challenge. Now what's REALLY stupid is how the difficulty description's capped at Super Difficult, from early postgame dungeons to Destiny Tower itself.

>>25047466
Are there stairs-reveal emeras? I've yet to find one.

>>25050059
Yes, I've found a couple.

How is Clefairy for the level 1 dungeons in Sky? Gets a lot of high PP moves and can learn a lot of available TMs.

Also, how does the Mobile Scarf and hunger mechanic work for teammate pokemon? They never seem to go hungry.

>>25046662
YOOM-TAH!

>Next PMD
>Set before all other PMD game chronologically
>Main theme at first is exploration of old ruins
>Ruins of clearly human origin, from overgrown office buildings to abandoned factories
>Some automated systems are still up, including security systems
>Recovering ancient artifacts to figure out what they do
>Dumb kid somehow manages to capture itself on a pokeball
>Cyberspace as the hell/everything is fucked up dungeons
>Even dumber explorer unleashes a grey goo, becomes the game's required unnatural disaster

>>25050125
Beautiful. Dump it in the writefaggotry thread. I may have to write this myself, but I'll give you credit.

>>25050125
Sounds pretty rad.

>>25050125
We go from a snow ball to a dark ball to a grey ball.

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>>25050338
I'd rather have an actual fucking villain again

>>25050503
why?

>>25049612
Red/Blue: What i'm doing right now, recruiting everything. Outside that, Joyous Tower

Sky: The Apple Woods shit, easily

Gates: Probably the dungeons with any weather since you can't recover hp naturally

Super: The Gauntlet

>>25050067
Untested.

Mobile scarf they can use just fine. Stuff like the Heal Ribbon seems to affect them after awhile though

>>25050579
Everything about Skuntank pissed me off. Its my Headcanon that they died in that Hidden Land entrance place.

>>25050588
thanks

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>>25050611
Chatot's a massive shit but at least he's usable in ZIS

>>25046290
i have this pair, but fenne MC and snivy as partner.

question: where in-game is the option to convert items into gold bars? the FAQ says it's the deposit box, but i can't seem to find any options that allow that. is it unlockable, or am i just retarded and looking in the wrong places?

>>25050924
If you have 100 of an item the exchange option will be available when withdrawing items.

>>25050935
shit, thanks dude. i'm too used to selecting to withdraw with L that i didn't find the option at first.

>>25050924
>>25050953

Have 100 of any item, usually rocks and sticks.

So I'm thinking about starting PMD: EoS. What would you guys recommend be the first few Pokemon that I use my stat boosts on? I hear that Jirachi is the best when it comes to recruiting so I might choose it.

>>25050961
Buff up Jirachi's IQ if you plan on recruiting everything. After that, you can worry about other pokemon

For buffing other's IQ, I recommend either Wooper or Quagsire, whichever you like more, and Vespiquen. Wooper's found extremely early on, and has invaluable IQ skills, and a useful ability in Damp which prevents explosions.


Vespiquen gets Sweet Scent+Attack Order, both hit the entire room. In addition, it gets Multitalent, upping the PP of all moves by 5 permanently. It gets a few of the very useful IQ skills Wooper gets, but trades a double hitting default attack for Pierce Hurler. Jirachi already gets that skill, though.

>>25050990
Forgot to mention that Vespiquen gets Collector, which ups the drop rate of treasure chests. Granted it's more useful early on because later on you're drowning in swap items, and seldom get good stuff from random chests. You can link Sweet Scent and Attack order for a linked move bonus, if you want to grind levels

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>>25050125
>next PMD
>the being thats been summoning humans reveals itself to you
>humans are actually agents brought in because the foreign aspect of them grants them some immunities in the pokemon world
>being uses legends, folk tales, as well as other things to guide the agents such as Gardevoir in Rescue Team.
>all of the partners are born and destined to meet the human
>each "ball" is a new demon as a result of pokemon
>bittercold was doubt
>darkmatter was hatred
>new one is of sadness
>the being brings in multiple humans for the sole purpose of trying not to fuck up
>voice of life comes back
>its revealed the real demon is bidoof
>the being has been kecleon this whole time as well, guiding the human whereever possible

I've been saving up my GLORIOUS SHINIES for a while and now it's time to roid rage with the Water Looplet.

What's the best way to go? Individual vitamins, or Mega Donuts/Sweet Chocolate/Four-Leaf Cookie? Also, is there even a difference between those last three?

>Electro Ball and Power Gem aren't ranged

Disappointing.

>>25051247
individual vitamins are better by far. sweets are far too unpredictable in their stats, and from my experience, mega donuts don't give noticebly better chances for more stat boosts, despite their higher price

>>25051247
Vitamins.

The candies are mainly for HP, and give +1 per stat up that isn't HP, where the vitamins boost by +2

>>25051027
>its revealed the real demon is bidoof
Jirachi made his wish extremely too well

What would the embodiment of sadness even be? An AI made too powerful through contact with Porygons that still misses it's human masters?

>>25051265
Neither is Charge Beam. Nor U-Turn anymore.

Escorting Tyrantrum is officially the hardest thing I've had to do in this game.

Everything in the dungeon keeps selectively sniping him from miles away.

>>25051558
You have to out-snipe the snipers with your own sniper

Mat Block appears to protect you from the stat-lowering effects of Leaf Storm.

Bellossom used Leaf Storm!
A critical hit!
It's super effective!
Swampert took 107 damage!
Swampert fainted.
Bellossom was protected from attacks by Mat Block!
Bellossom gained 240 Exp. Points.
and so on

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>>25051588
>Bellossom used Leaf Storm!

>>25051580
There's no way to anticipate Hydro Pump rape.

>>25051603
After-images, bro

God damn it. I'm so tempted to restart my game.

>>25051629
just dump your save and do it, doing this kind of stuff is pretty easy on the 3ds now

>>25051629
Same, but i'm supposed to be trying out every mon in the Sacred Ruins.

>>25051637
Well, I'm the anon who is this guy.
>>25048713
I know the legendaries are in their own dungeons and shit. But I can't find or connect to Pidgey. And it's pissing me off.

>>25051637
...How, exactly? Do you need specific tools? Can you do it on a budget of "entirely broke?" Because I would love to be able to restart my game while not losing what I have stored.

>>25051662
All you need is the 3DS web browser and some files in your SD card.

>>25051662
>>25051679
I just remembered some people had problems trying to select PSMD with it, I'm not sure why. I hope that's not the case for you.

>>25051697
Well, there's already the problem that I was foolish enough to put Smash 4 right on my SD card, so I have no room to put anything else on there. I'll check, but I'm not exactly optimistic. Where would I go to get these files?

>>25051714
They don't take up much space, and you can move SSB4 from the SD card to PC if you really need more space. Anyway, original or New 3DS? And what system version are you on? You only need like a little more than one MB of space, by the way.

>>25051751
Original, and I'm on 10.4.0 because I needed to update for the Sm4sh update. Pretty sure I can downgrade, though. What files am I hunting for?

>>25051853
>Pretty sure I can downgrade
I feel sorry for you. 10.4 is the one that blocked that. There might still be a workaround as Nintendo might have been lazy when patching it, but I wouldn't count on it too much.

Extract this in your SD card http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=07282312877263867636
and then follow http://yls8.mtheall.com/3dsbrowserhax.php (go in the browser->delete cookies and history, close the browser->press l and r at the same time, scan the qr code, this should be enough, if not, do what the page says)

>>25051901
Fucking hell. Such is life.

>>25051647
>I know the legendaries are in their own dungeons and shit. But I can't find or connect to Pidgey.
Pidgey is just a Connection Orb mission at the Abundant Pass (Grass Continent). You have to get Bonsly first, though. And to connect with Bonsly, you need to do Togekiss' connection orb mission. Togekiss' mission also gets you Pichu and Happiny

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>wish cave
>find reviver seed
>have 4 already
>think Charizard's PP is looking a little low, no uses in Flamethrower
>kill Charizard with sticks
>revives with full PP
>take Reviver Seed


PRO STRATS

>>25051946
Well, I found Slakoth in Mystical Forrest in Air Continent. Is Togekiss just a fainted Pokemon or a traveling Pokemon in a random dungeon?

>>25051997
Togekiss has a connection orb mission, but I can't remember how it's unlocked or where it is. Sorry I can't be of more help.

>>25051997
Togekiss is also your bottleneck for Illumise and Volbeat, by the way.

>>25051313
>>25051338
Thanks guys. Time to use all 72 gold bars.

Does it say somewhere where each of Ampharos' special treasure things? It's been a while since I played and I can't remember where he told me to go.

>>25052103
Aren't they the crown dungeons that don't have a legendary?

>>25052103
They will be marked with a gold crown on the dungeon select screens.

>>25052103
Alternatively, there's a guide to treasure locations in the OP

How is Blast Trap damage calculated? It's definitely not percentage-based anymore; it just OHKO'd the Nincada I was escorting.

>>25052215
I think it's a flat 80 damage for non party members, and 50% of party member's hp. Apparently escorts dont count?

>>25052255
Seems so. He took 80 damage.

>Step on this completely invisible trap and be forced to use a reviver seed in order to complete the mission

>>25052303
Bring Wooper with, it has Damp, which prevents that.

niggas, how do I get more HP so my starter quits being a glass cannon? I hate how little HP he gets

>>25051987
Added this strategy in my level 1 guide, check it out.

>>25052360
better start finding life seeds

>>25052360
Sitrus berries
Life seeds
Water Looplet

/or
Just a Blue Looplet

>>25052360
Sitrus berrys.

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>>25046234
>>25046258
He's so fucking cute, I can't not protect this smile.

It's being worth playing through it again. Sorry Don-chan.

>>25052377
>>25052374
>>25052373
How early can I begin to start reliably finding these things?

>>25052398
>Sitrus berries
Very, very quickly.
>Water Looplet
As soon as Pledge Hill opens up. I think that's when you hit Lively Town.

>Life Seeds
Check the code in the OP.

>>25052406
That doesn't help me at all. How soon is quickly?
Around which chapters?

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>>25052395
I'm doing some protection of my own right now

As in chapter 1 of my fic will be uploaded in like an hour or two

As in I am preemptively shilling smugleaf funnelcake things

Beat Wish Cave once again, and with this, I've recruited every pokemon that is unevolved

>>25052417
Not until near the end, from my experience.

But really, offense is the best defense. Spend some gold bars to boost your Attack or Special Attack so you can kill things faster.

>>25052436
Does anybody know if i can recruit shit like Exeggutor and Blissey like this? It seems to have prioritized unevolved pokemon

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>>25052418
>As in chapter 1 of my fic will be uploaded in like an hour or two
Is it that time again?

>>25051929
Did you manage to do it?

>>25052455
It's only 6k words, but I actually have a proofreader. Expect something at all.

Sometimes it feels as though non-ranged attacks might as well not exist. 90% of enemy encounters take place in hallways where only one Pokemon can engage the enemy face-to-face, and you can't approach foes without getting your shit pushed in. They'll stand one tile away and either keep boosting stats or hitting you with their own ranged moves.

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Why? Would having attacks be anywhere near as accurate as they are in the main games make PMD too easy?

>>25052515
boost your speed

>>25052418
HYPE
Y
P
E

>>25052526
I've already taken enough carbos to double it. And I mean for all PMDs, not just Super.

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>>25052418
Waiting for you anon!

How many levels do moves have? The highest seems to be three stars, as seen with Hoopa's Hyperspace Hole. The most I have is level IV. At what point does it go from numerals to stars?

>>25052418
GOD DAMMIT, I WAS GOING TO WRITE THIS.

Then again, it probably wouldn't have happened for a while due to college concerns. It's probably for the best. Unless this anon has no clue what he's doing, in which case I might get writing after all.

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>Accidentally let Fennekin step on a Stealth Rock tile
>fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

>8 damage

>>25052634
Nahnahnah, I think you're thinking that I'm going to make something absolutely cute and shit. I have some decently rude plans for these two cuties. If you're going to make something fluffy, I suggest doing it.

>Go to sand dune of spirits
>As fennekin
>Two lunatone and a pupitar on spawn
>pupitar used sandstorm!
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>fennekin ate a reviver seed! (hint: don't eat these, keep them in your bag)
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>fennekin ate a reviver seed! (hint: don't eat these, keep them in your bag)
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>fennekin ate a reviver seed! (hint: don't eat these, keep them in your bag)
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>fennekin ate a reviver seed! (hint: don't eat these, keep them in your bag)
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>fennekin ate a reviver seed! (hint: don't eat these, keep them in your bag)
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>lunatone used hypnosis!
>fennekin ate a reviver seed! (hint: don't eat these, keep them in your bag)
>lunatone used rock slide!
>lunatone used rock slide!
>send for a rescue or continue from save data

This dungeon is a meme isn't it.

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>>25052689
shoulda used a warp wand

>>25052689
Chesto Looplet for this single dungeon

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>>25052689
you're triggering me, anon

>>25052668
Oh. OH. I was planning on doing some actual, long-term fic, basically a retelling of the story where the protagonist actually has more of a personality than an old potato and the dialogue is actually realistic. Don't get me wrong, I love the story, but some of the portrayals are...subpar. Besides, we're missing a lot of interaction that could happen in the dungeons, and there are a few game mechanics that could use translation into effective story terms (Connection Orb? Really?). Hopefully, it won't suck too bad.

Meanwhile, you were planning on writing something that may or may not be smut. I approve of this, but fortunately they don't interact.

>>25052705
>>25052709
>>25052710
and to top it all off there's not one but TWO flash fire mons that can spawn in this dungeon, and one of them is houndoom.
I had to go relearn fucking scratch.

Chesto looplet here I fucking come. Here's hoping on finding a type bulldozer emera.

Who /constantlyforgetsalliancesexist/ here?

>>25052668
>I have some decently rude plans for these two cuties.

>>25052720
here's how i made it through, also as fennekin:
>guiding wand spam
>fuck everything run to the stairs
>died on floor 10 when i ran out of reviver seeds
>rescued myself with a team of all water types (clauncher leader sweeps hard for this, make sure he has aura sphere and all pulse moves)

rescuing yourself is always an option, remember that. i pray for you

>>25052711
>Smut
I've only written smut once in my life, and that was because it was of absolute importance in a dead fandom that SOMEONE did it. I'm just making a 5 chapter postgame story where suffering happens but also fluff most of the way until it isn't but then there's just a little more suffering at the end. Recreating the story line is a tricky task that you really need to commit to as to make it not as bland as every other recreation.

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>>25052418
HYPED.

>>25052769
MAGICAL STICKS

you can now start the game as any first-stage or single-stage pokemon you wish.

who do you choose, /pmdg/? why?

>>25052798
kecleon

I want to punish the goyim.

>>25052798
SHINX
H
I
N
X

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>>25052798
Dratini.

>>25052798
Cubone. Or Shinx. Can I pick both?

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>>25052798
TIME

I've played explorers for the sky and loved it. Which game should I pick up second?

>>25052825
Super is good

>>25052748
You have a very good point, my friend. And indeed, it shall probably be incredibly, stupidly, bland. BUT I SHALL HAVE TRIED.

>>25052798
Wooper, easily. If it applies to partners, Mareep for that as well.

>>25052798
If it's not against the rules then I pick Jirachi.

>>25052837
Great taste, anon. Not what I would have picked, but still great taste.

I hear a lot of talk about Wooper in regards to PMD. What're they good for, other than being cute?

>>25052798
Honestly, I'm gonna stick with the starters. It's tradition at this point. Besides, they're fairly balanced statwise, meaning that you won't be penalized for picking something with fucked-up stats in the early game.

>>25052735
10 guiding wands
32 petrify wands
23 warp wands
40 (forty) stayaway wands
2 petrify orbs
5 slumber orbs
6 reviver seeds
Weather looplet fuck my ass I don't have a chesto looplet.

I should be good to go.

>>25052860
Ditch those Slumber Orbs for Totter Orbs. Confusion doesn't snap 'em out by walking past or by getting hit by Sandstorm.

>>25052856
>I hear a lot of talk about Wooper in regards to PMD

That's mainly the same autist going on about it. Which is me.

In Sky, they have both abilities, and VERY good IQ skills. Stuff like double hitting normal attacks, and trap immunity. In Super, they lose those, but make up for it by getting Earth Power, which is essentially Earthquake but better because it doesn't hurt your team.

Best of all, you can get one really early in Sky, as early as Waterfall Cave. I main one in every single game, mainly because it's my favorite

>>25052871
Sounds solid. I might try it next time I play through Sky.

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>>25052880
I highly recommend it. A default attack that attacks twice deals with everything that isn't in Zero Isle Center, and it gets Blizzard via TM.

It also gets the ability to see the floor layout and sense the direction of stairs, too

>>25052870
dude lmao I just found a wand expert emera
shits gonna be alright

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>Heliolisk used Razor Wind
>Heliolisk used Razor Wind
>Heliolisk used Razor Wind

This didn't happen in my first run...

>>25052729
I 100% the game and never ended up using an alliance past the tutorial. It just wasn't necessary.

>>25052729
it's not that i forgot about it, it's just inefficient since it burns up hunger points. i'd rather just have my teammates snipe from around me. (i use it occasionally during boss battles but nothing else really)

those high level dungeons where enemies start using alliances tho
those are just mean

Is Pelipper Island required for anything? I've recruited over 600 Pokemon and still haven't gone there.

>>25053044
I just took an enemy alliance attack for the first time, almost a OHKO.

>>25052729
Okay, yeah, me. Except on bosses, it's really the only way to take them out properly.

Does having more members in your team split their Exp like in mainline games, or everyone would get the same amount either way? Just wondering because I'm still in story mode and don't want my main characters underleveled later.

>>25053119
not required for anything. you can use it to rescue yourself if you ever die, or rescue someone else in nintendo's inconvenient-ass access ways. but that's really it.

while i'm talking about it, i'm really disappointed that there's no really easy way to save defeated teams over wifi. that's something i always wished i were able to do. help out any randos that might be in trouble, somewhere in the world.

>>25053149
everyone gets the same amount, even teammates you've connected with, but don't have in your adventuring party. it's nice.

>>25053162
Really? I thought that was only the case with a motivated team.

>>25053175
i thought that too at first, but nope, with motivated teams, it just gives the motivated pokemon triple exp if you use them. the sharing exp. mechanic applies to everyone, all the time. you can check for yourself at intervals - teammates you've never used will be levels higher because of the exp. sharing. that's how i figured it out, at least.

Let's come up with some devious shit for the next PMD.

>Trap that permanently decreases a random stat when stepped on

Can move-boosting drinks be thrown through my team like vitamins?

>>25053283
you're sick.

here's one not quite as mean, but still awful to think about.
>the strong wind that flushes you out of a dungeon comes back
>almost all higher-level dungeons have a chance to spawn those godawful maze floors in place of a regular floor

>>25053376
>>almost all higher-level dungeons have a chance to spawn those godawful maze floors in place of a regular floor
Uuuuuuuuuugh

>>25053371
yep. those are also exploitable with the water looplet. you'll just have to make sure both party members' last move was the move you want to power up.

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>Swirlix made a shrugging motion and crammed another mouthful of nuts into her maw
>Swirlix made a shrugging motion and crammed another mouthful of nuts into her maw
>Swirlix made a shrugging motion and crammed another mouthful of nuts into her maw

I hope you liked named MCs figgots
http://pastebin.com/30BfS1zk

>>25053371
You're damn right

>>25053403
>she

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>>25053415
Don't you start this I am already well-versed in this kind of combat

>>25053283
since wonder tiles count as traps, they disappear once you step on them

>>25053387
>>25053403
Thanks. Holy shit, that boost is NOT worth nine gold bars.

>>25053283
>fire trap
>burns you and a random item
>item is gone forever

>>25053283
Doom seed trap

>>25053465
>Forget trap
>Causes you to forget a move
>It can even be a tutored one

>>25053440
That wouldn't be TOO bad.

>>25053283
>Discharge Trap

Effectively a Discharge that his every pokemon in the room, friend or foe.

>>25053403
HYPE
Y
P
E

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JUST TRY AND MISS NOW FUCKER

>>25052798
Zubat. I fucking LOVE Crobat. Boss battle? Nah, fuck you, Confuse Ray. Inner Focus is a great ability for dungeons. Sanic speed for max reliability. Leech Life is usable for once, so I'll be enjoying that recovery as well.

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>>25053283
Type trap
>Changes the type of the Pokemon whom steps on it to a random type

>>25053547
Crobat is most definitely Bro-bat

>>25053283
>Enemy Summon Trap

Needs a better name, but it summons a random enemy, BUT only one that is NOT in the dungeon. This means ANY non legendary pokemon.

>>25053283
>Wand sapper trap
>Removes all charges of a random wand
>Also heavily lowers stats for the floor if a Braixen or Delphox steps on it

>>25053569
Wand charges?

>>25053283
>lookalike items are back

>lookalike wands
>lookalike emeras

>"Tarp"
>Transforms a random item into a lookalike or viceversa

>>25053578
>you have shitloads of your favourite wand in the bag
>step on that trap
>it chooses that wand
>now you have no more of that wand
>for extra fun, you get the equivalent amount in wooden sticks

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>2017
>Next PMD Game is released
>Combination of all the best mechanics from each game
>Drops all the worst mechanics from each game
>Looks better than the current main gen games
>Final Boss is a Human turned Pokemon
>Story revolves around the legend of Humanity
>There are specific online dungeons where you can be invaded by similar leveled teams in the same manner as a Souls game
>Events of previous PMD games are mentioned within story

>>25053600
>Looks better than the current main gen games

So it'll be 2D again?

>>25053283
>Level down trap
>Automatic faint trap
>Back to first floor trap
>All items gone trap

>>25053614
>Delete save file trap
>Brick 3DS trap
>Parents die trap

>>25053623
>Sun explodes trap
I'd be searching all day for it if that's how it worked.

>>25053623
>Burn down house trap

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So here's the team I'm running.

Quiver Dance/ Giga Drain/ Teeter Dance/ Energy Ball- Chlorophyll Lilligant

Heatwave/Flame Thrower/ Fire Blast/Bite Charmander with perism looplet

Sunnyday/ Growth/ Solar Beam/ Morning Sun Cherrim

Heatwave hits hard in the sun even against resists. A double quiver dance thanks to chlorophyll means that Lilligant hits like a truck as well. Cherrim is just there to set up the sun,for the healing, and the SpA, but's limited move doesn't help it too much.

Any suggestions for improvements?

>>25053623
>send soul to the shadow realm trap

>>25053650
>Send pokemon to the Sacred Ruins trap

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>>25053376

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>>25053672
>that's actually in the game
i've been on floors for 20+ minutes and never gotten it. what kinda dicking around do you gotta do to get that shit?

>>25053694
Grinding in Mysterious Geoglyph mostly

>>25053600
Warning: intense autism
>A few specific minor legendaries behaving particularly oddly
>Some being always near disaster areas, others being way too friendly or convincing explorers to do strange tasks
>Those disasters being completely unexplained, a town's population completely vanishing overnight only to show up in another continent, huge holes being drilled and odd structures showing up in remote locations after an earthquake
>Disasters keep happening and getting worse, whole towns being destroyed, attacks by things that are definitely not pokemons or even living
>An investigation on those odd legendaries is launched
>Plot and dungeons happen
>The pokemon world is revealed to be the human world after an event made pokemons appear and forced the humans off this world
>The humans have been observing the world for a while, and they now know how to take it back
>For that, they sent various humans preemptively transformed into pokemons of their choosing
>Their mission being to weaken the existing pokemon population, and destroy [plot related entity a la tree of life], which is the reason why every human that gets into the pokemon world transforms into a pokemon and loses most memories.
>Open hostilities between most pokemons, and the humans plus some other pokemons that think siding with the humans will spare them from totally-a-not-kid-friendly-genocide

>>25053698
Exactly what I was doing. Had to eat two apples before that came up.

>Grinding Mysterious Geoglyph with motivated Volcarona
>Have found Better Odds, Barrage, Dizzying Stare, Confusion Guard (Signal Beam), and Training
>Meanwhile my helpless Unown has Warp Payback, Intimidator, Distance Dodge, and Guard Boost

THE GOOD LORD SMILES UPON ME THIS DAY

>>2505328
>Turncoat trap
>Makes the team pokemon that steps on it switch sides and become an enemy, still with the same stats, moves and equipped item
>Have to kill it and revive to make it join back your team, or finish the exploration.

>Ditto Trap
>Spawns one Ditto for each pokemon of yours in the room, they all transform into the different pokemons.

>>25053715
Say, is the one room orb in PSMD?

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>>25053723
Haven't found any yet, but the final floor of Mysterious Geoglyph is just one room. It was practically made for grinding.

>>25053747
Oh, cool

Forgive me ignorance, but I was wondering, is any aspect of d explorers of SKY still online? Can I save someone or be saved or trade items or pokemon via WiFi connection? If yes, is there anything else that can be done aside from those four? Thanks :D

>>25053924
No, all wifi on all DS games are gone.

You CAN however, screenshot the rescue passwords, post them here, and be rescued. No wifi doesn't affect password rescues at all. If you rescue someone, you can send them an item if they aren't in ZIS

2 questions.
Is there any way to fight against perish song?
And what does the excavation looplet do?

>>25053934
>Heal seed, Aromatherapy I think, if so then Refresh
>Allows Gold Sparkles to appear and give you stuff so long as your leader is wearing one

>>25053939
Do gold sparkles not always appear? Does it not just increase the amount of them? Also, will my whole team see it, or only the one wearing the looplet?

>>25053947
Nope, just regular sparkles
Only the one wearing it if they're the leader

>>25053951
Ah, okay, that's lame, but thanks.
I guess I might as well wear it since it gives as many slots as a regular gold looplet but also has that added benefit.

>>25053403
finally got around to reading this, you have my interest

can't wait for more

>>25053930
Really? How come that works, I mean it still happens through internet, doesnt it?
I know all online DS features were shut so I was always confused as for why people still post rescuse codes.

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>>25054031
Don't worry, I'll try to make the later entries a little less awkward and short. Besides the fluff I'm about to activate I'm very interested in what imma try to do with that serp.

>>25054073
It just works.

Think of it like this, Passwords worked for Red Rescue Team right?

>>25054079
what kind of fanfiction has Mawile been writing and is it to quality laughs

>>25054151
I imagine her the type to secretly be real into some serious anime friendship magical girl bullshit. Considering the kind of stuff that happened during the main storyline, she'd already be desperately inspired to write it. Swirlix would be the only one to know of it because she knows everything.

>>25053600
You had me at invasions.
Not sure how pvp would work in PMD though.

>>25054166
cute

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>>25054336
Maybe if I get bored after I finish the series I'll make a bonus chapter

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>tfw 238 gold bars

>>25053930
>No, all wifi on all DS games are gone.
You can actually use alternate servers as well.

>>25046088
Well /pmdg/, I'm interested in know who's the most/least popular Starter/Partner in the whole PMD saga, so soon I'll do a poll about it so we could see who's the favorite Pokemon as a Starter/Partner. I won't do the poll here on /pmdg/, but on /vp/.

I will make the poll through Straw Poll, if you know a better page tell me.

>>25055320
>most popular starter/partner
Riolu, if I had to guess
it's one of my favourites too!

>Clear Poliwrath river.
>Close 3DS once Ampharous asks what my team name should be.

How long did it take all of you to pick a name?

>>25055439
Warning: It's different from other PMD games. They're going to refer to you as "The _____" instead of "Team _____". So you probably want a plural.

I quickly went with Argonauts, since I usually call my guild Argonaut in the Etrian Odyssey series.

>>25055390
Yeah, but who is the least popular? Skitty? Phanpy? Axew? Froakie? That's why I'm interested on doing this.

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Are there any good psychic moves in this game? Pretty much every psychic move seems like it is 1 square ranged move that doesn't have the damage output or utility of other 1 square range moves.
>>25055439
Just pick something, the game lets you rename it.

>>25055504
Psybeam is ranged... at least on PMD1 and PMD2, I don't know if its the same on PMD3 and/or PMD4.

>>25055473
least popular duo has to be Phanpy/Eevee

>>25055504
I think Psychic is about the best you get.

>>25055462
It's also like that in GtI too. Also, this only happens in the English translation for some reason.

>>25055574
I skipped GtI because of the horrible starter pool.

>>25055390
>>25055528
I'm thinking on doing separated polls like this: one poll for the favorite Pokemon as Starter on Red/Blue Rescue Team, other one like this but for Partner, one for Starters on Explorers of Sky, other for Partners in Explorers of Sky, etc., this will show us who is the most/least chosen Pokemon as Starter and/or Partner.

Yes, is a fact that Phanpy is the worst Starter and Eevee is the worst Partner, but this is only true for Explorers of Sky, but what about the other games?

>>25055621
Machop is probably the least popular for Red/Blue

>>25055518
Psybeam is ranged, and the reason Espurr is the best sniper kitty

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>>25050513
Not him, but the story feels like it lacks an emotional connection to the antagonists.

Just beat Regigigas, and to the guy in the last thread, yeah, doing that extends a connection opportunity to Ferroseed that's connected to Solrock's spot.

>>25055504
i always go psybeam for psychic snipes. it has 4 tiles of range. 1-square psychic moves are almost always a waste of my time because i use sp. atk 'mons for sniping

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>Razor Wind Heliolisk
>Teeter Dance Lilligant
>Muddy Water Seismitoad
>Ominous Wind Drifblim with Aftermath
>Hydro Pump Seadra

>>25056116
>>Ominous Wind Drifblim with Aftermath
>this is somehow worse than Unburden Ominous Wind/Minimize Drifblim

If you're unlucky this motherfucker can use it 8 times in one turn in Sky, but at least there Minimize isn't +4 evade

>>25056158
>there

I try to keep blast seeds for just such an occasion.
FUCK BUG BITE GODDAMN

>>25053956
It's definitely worth it considering that the gold sparkles can contain Joy Seeds and Life Seeds.

>>25056158
I've had good luck with not finding Unburden Drifblim, so it's been awhile since I forgot how terrifying they are.
Aftermath is a bitch if you have an Escort, though.

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How did /pmdg/ like Conquest? I feel like the deeper mechanics were kind of underused even in the postgame and I'd like to see a sequel where the macro-level castle development and conquering strategy was more important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgc_nxqibaI

>>25056116
Honestly I think the hit-whole-room moves break the game. It feels weird taking out a whole monster house with one Heat Wave. And the super long range moves are just nasty.

>>25046088
What the fuck
I took the quiz, got told I was kind and sensitive, and got... Totodile. I don't really like totodile, and I don't see how that's a particularly "sensitive" pokemon... I'll give the quiz another go.

So I take the quiz again, get told I'm "warm, caring," a DIFFERENT result, and get... Totodile again.

Does the quiz even have anything to do with what you get?

Assuming you're playing Super, the quiz result doesn't matter. You can decline and pick for yourself.

>>25057162
How come Spike Chunsoft can learn from mistakes but GameFreak can't?

>>25057180
GameFreak is too busy trying to compete with the Mobile Market.

>>25057180
What mistakes has GameFreak been punished for

>>25057162
I can, but I thought if I took the quiz I'd get something that I like at least a little, or something that even makes sense, and stick with that.

If I can get two different descriptions and the same pokemon, doesnt that mean the quiz result and pokemon arent related? If so, why bother including the quiz?

>>25057149
haven't you read le explorers of death? you keep getting totodile because you're a totodile, the game knows better than you

>>25057207
>I got a mudkip over and over in EoS
>got mudkip again in super
help

>>25057225
Mudkip is cute though
Way less ugly than totodile...

>Klefki joins my team
>now he will open multiple boxes at once

THANK YOU GOD

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>>25057234
>totodile
>ugly

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>>25057234
At least you'll have dat ass.

I got Piplup and Torchic on my first and second run. Chose neither.

>Starters are around level 45
>Have roided their stats up to ~200
>Can't bring myself to boost their stats the rest of the way because they'll naturally be around 255 by level 100

Am I being a dumbass?

>>25057262
depends. do stats cap at around 255?

>>25057247
T-they're cute!

>>25057274
They do, so using too many more stat boosters would be wasteful in the long run. But on the other hand, it's unlikely I'll ever hit level 100.

>>25057274
yes

>>25057274
I'm pretty sure they don't. My delphox (didn't know about evolution, don't hurt me) has reached 259 sp atk.

Might be because she's holding a tempest looplet and that may alter things, but still.

>>25057352
looplets put them over the cap by however much the looplet boosts it by but the base stat cap is 255

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>going through Mysterious Geoglyph with Heatran and Fennekin on Blow Everything Up duty

>Sixth floor of Thorny Shadow Path
>Have already gone through two Elixirs

Fuck, I hope you don't have to go through too many of these level-reducing dungeons to recruit everyone.

>>25057352
>Delphox
>He evolved Braixen
[Shaming Intensifies]

Do Pokémon become busy randomly or just when I use them? I just connected with Axew and gained Salamance as a result so I figure there must be a downside to using a nuke like him this early.

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>>25057543
>he evolved

>>25057606
Randomly, or if they're too powerful, more likely after using them.

Taking Salamence that early will render it unusable for a long time

>>25057606
They go on breaks more often if they're a higher level than your starter and if you've been using them recently.

>>25057606
Semi-random, but more often if they're higher level than your starters. My Shaymin is available about 80% of the time, but Ampharos who is higher level than me is only around about 30% of the time

>>25057606
That Salamence helped me so much in missions too.

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>>25057607
Did it for the moves

>>25057530
Fucking hell, this is impossible. I HAVE to use a warp wand on every single Blissey, and I don't think the 108 I have in storage is enough for that.

I just switched from Chespin to Fennekin and my supereffective Embers do exactly as much damage against the Grass- and Bug-types as Chespin's NVE Vine Whips did. Does type effectiveness even exist in these games?

>finally get SUPER
>all these save points before the end of the first chapter
Yep, it's a mystery dungeon game.

>>25057675
resistances and weaknesses don't matter too much but I don't have a specific number for them in super

>>25057683
If it's one thing I'll say about Super, they make SURE that everything you do is followed by a save

>>25057690
STAB is x1.7
SE is x1.4

Welcome to MD where 4 fire moves charizard is viable, now git out.

Which ending of explorers of sky does everyone talk about? The ending of the main game or the ending after that?

>>25058126
Main game, usually. It's definitely the more dramatic, heart-tearing one. The latter is rough, but not nearly as bad.

>>25058081
>STAB is x1.7
That seems a bit much. You sure, anon?

>>25058266
Not him, but I'd believe it.

>>25058266
It's slightly higher than in the maingames. Yes.

>second to last boss of super
Took me several tries before I realized that I could hit Yveltal with a Confusing Wand (and that wands are actually useful against bosses, unlike orbs). That + teaching Ice Beam to my Froakie made the fight much easier.

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>>25058441
Truant Wand. Boss's bane, very useful. Also: Move in close on Yveltal and spam Alliances with your STAB moves just to murder it as quick as possible (the rest can be dealt with individually.)