/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon General

Remember to protect smiles!

What about Pokemon that are incapable of smiling? How do I protect Hitmonlee's smile?

>>25058559
They can still smile on the inside!

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One nice detail I noticed is they added sprint animations to this game.

I expected them to just increase the animation walk speed lazily but they actually did seperate sprint animations.

>>25058596
Chespin's walk animation is awful. He waddles like a pair of chattering teeth.

>>25058578
Lewd

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>>25058540

>>25058466
Oh, filename. Shouldn't have taken me so long, but I definitely see it.

>Evil-looking or Ghost/Dark/Poison-type Pokemon
>It's a monster house

>Friendly-looking Pokemon
>It's a pleasant conversation

EVERY FUCKING TIME

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>>25058659
>mfw using a Pure Seed or being exactly one-two tiles away from the Stairs
>mfw simply using a Petrify Orb and then running off for the Stairs

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>>25058659
*unseathes Foe-Seal Orb*

Why the fuck am I getting no new missions? Only have 701 species of Pokemon, but the last 19 aren't in my Friend Orb and I have no new missions anywhere. Cave completion rate is 100%.

How am I supposed to get Arceus?

>>25058659
I'm never surprised by this because I can always tell who's pulling my leg and who's serious by which unconnected pokemon are near them. If they have similar mons near them, it's legitimate. If none of the mons near are similar, then it's a trap.

Almost takes the fun out of it. Doesn't matter either way since I'll always have a couple of Petrify Orbs with me, but still.

>>25058720
Have you dilivered all the letters?

>>25058916
Yes.

Can you recruit pokemon like Blissey and Rapidash from Wish Cave?

>>25058720
Check serene village.

>Follow-through emera

THEY KEEP GETTING MORE OP

Ally Reviver seems OP.

Well /pmdg/, I'm interested in know who's the most/least popular Starter/Partner in the whole PMD saga, so soon I'll do a poll about it so we could see who's the favorite Pokemon as a Starter/Partner. I won't do the poll here on /pmdg/, but on /vp/.

Am I correct in assuming the satiated looplet has like three emera slots? I'm sicking of burning through five apples in fifteen-floor dungeons, but a hunger-nullifying item seems too good to be true.

>>25059125
Yeah we know, you said that last thread.
Just do the poll already if your going to do it.

>>25059170
Nope, just two. Just bring a ton of Emera-Up Orbs where you would bring apples. You'll need less on the long dungeons and you'll get your inventory space back immediately. Did I mention you have to go through a 44-floor dungeon to get it, filled with stupidly strong enemies? Because that's a thing.

>>25059174
>>25059196

>>25059196
...why. Why not post it where there's a perfectly good thread for it? What is the point?

>>25059170
It has two emera slots, but if you're roofed up its worth it. And it's great for long dungeons, although you should still bring 1-2 apples for pokemon that need them to be rescued, also in case you hit a sticky trap and it stickies your satiate looplet which happened to me. And before people point out it's my own fault for no cleanse orb, I didn't have anymore.

>>25059204
ThisX1000

>>25059196
Reposting ITT because you're dumb.

Time to choose your favorite PMD Starter/Partner.

This time Red and Blue Rescue Team.

Starter
http://strawpoll.me/6608599
Partner
http://strawpoll.me/6608617

I want to know who is the most/least popular Starter/Partner so I decided to make this poll.

>>25059204
>>25059214
>>25059218
Clearly because not everyone comes here.

>>25059204
I'm not him but I'll post it here

Starter
http://strawpoll.me/6608599
Partner
http://strawpoll.me/6608617

>>25059218
Oh you beat me too it >>25059247
Oh well.

>My partners looplet disappeared
This shit happened with my mains first looplet too, I don't even remember anyone stealing it.
Goddamn thief mons taking my shit.

>>25059258
>Hypno survives flamethrower
>Steals my looplet
>Clutch performer activates
>Almost get fucked by that shitmon

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>>25059319
Poll Anon here

OK. I decided to post the links here on /pmdg/. Here they are:

Red and Blue Rescue Team
>>25059247


Explorers of Sky

Starter
http://strawpoll.me/6608673

Partner
http://strawpoll.me/6608665


Gates to Infinity

Starter
http://strawpoll.me/6608635

Partner
http://strawpoll.me/6608643


Super Mystery Dungeon

Starter
http://strawpoll.me/6608749

Partner
http://strawpoll.me/6608767

>>25059294
>theifmon steals looplet with awakening emera attached

what is the best emera and why is it 8 power boosts

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>>25059395
>7 Power Boosts (with one of the opposite) and 1 Type Bulldozer
>mfw STABbing everything into oblivion because STAB is stronger than Super Effective without STAB

How many levels do moves have? I've gotten up to IV, and the max seems to be three gold stars.

>>25059042
Just did, nothing. I guess I'll randomly go through dungeons and see if anything happens.

>>25059458
Do you know what Pokemon you're missing, aside from Arceus?
You could always check Serebii if you do actually know. Not to mention Forms and Gender Differences are also a factor.

>>25059441
>http://strawpoll.me/6608767
V isn't the max either

>>25059533
I could check but it'd take forever to go through the 700 Pokemon and pick out the ones I don't have. There's no Pokedex in this game for me to see missing slots, right?

>>25059572
When you're making a Team Preset, you can Sort Pokemon by Evolution, which is actually National Pokedex Mode. While it might be tedious, you can match up your current Pokemon List with the actual National Pokedex and see what you're missing.

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>>25059589
>Meowth
>After epilogue, visit Meowth

FUCK ME IN THE ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Okay thanks Anon. Time to go through and see who I'm missing.

What's the differences between Explorers of Time/Darkness/and Sky?

>>25059606
T/D have some mons that aren't found in either version

Sky has every pokemon and more features, don't bother with T/D

>>25059606
Sky is the emerald/crystal to time and darkness.
I'm not sure what the differences between time and darkness are though. I don't think it's anything major, probably just the mons/items you can find in dungeons.

>>25059635
It's just a few pokemon and items. There is literally no reason to play Time/Darkness when you have Access to Sky.

>>25059647
I only have Time. I was wondering if buying a cheap copy of Sky was worth it.

>>25059658
yeah it's worth it

>>25059658
Sky should be pretty cheap, considering it isn't a Mainline Pokemon Game.
If all else fails, just emulate.

>>25059663
What are the main differences?
>>25059666
I'm too dumb to figure out emulating games... I've tried before and ended up downloading a virus. Is there a specific website that I can emulate games from safely?

>>25059684
>I'm too dumb to figure out emulating games... I've tried before and ended up downloading a virus. Is there a specific website that I can emulate games from safely?

Just grab the .zip right there in the OP. I got it together myself, and tested the roms, they should work.
The main differences?
>Bonus dungeons
>everything is recruitable without external help
>Spinda's Cafe in town, lets you make drinks to buff your party up and recycle items you dont want for items and tickets to a drawing that can have VERY good items
>Secret Bazaar, home to a few shops inside dungeons, one of which can sell you random items that can be stuff like Joy Seeds and Vitamins
>Special Episodes that expand on the story of multiple characters

>>25059684
Emuparadise is the best place for Nintendo ROMs, and the best DS Emulator is Desmume.
Look up tutorials to get Desmume running at its best, and download a Sky ROM.

>>25059717
Oh yeah, totally forgot that was in the OP.
Sounds like the differences between the games is pretty big.
>>25059727
I'll be checking those out, I'd like to figure this stuff out more.

Thanks guys.

>>25059748
Desmume should run right out of the .zip, but you might have to optimize some stuff.

>>25059601
If you're missing Igglybuff, Togepi, Rattata, Caterpie, and Wooper, then they're on the hill with the Big Tree outside of Serene Village

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There is 2 kinds of outcomes from boss fights in this game
1-
>beat boss
>"ohh you were just here to check it out, it is just a misunderstanding"
>"i am so sorry, here my connection orb number now you can use me forever
2-
>beat boss
>boss revives somehow and beats your ass in animaton
>then you wonder what was the point of the fight if i was gonna lose anyway?

>>25059684
well it's not like you have to develop the emulator yourself. I suggest you to lurk GBAtemp (and from there related sites if you find some that you think might be useful) so you know what you can do and where to look for stuff like this

>>25059779
And don't forget
>Think it's a boss fight
>Nah, I just wanted to meet you face to face. Here's my connection Orb!
>Had to go through some bullshit gauntlet just for that
>No boss fight or anything
>Just a "Hello neighbour! Here's my number in case of emergencies!"

>>25059779
>>boss revives somehow and beats your ass in animaton
Doesn't that literally happen only once?

>>25059797
And then there's
>Boss Fight
>it's a "Slowly beat down their health while they eat away through your Reviver Seeds and Oran Berries" Fight
And the worst part is, The Final Boss is guilty as fuck of doing this.

>>25059798
>entei fight(you beat him then he revives so you have to evolve)
>the fight in the voidland with the little black sludges
And as far as i remember, after you beat beedrill or gabite, it revive again and as it almost attacks you, some other pokemon comes and explain the situation.
And i haven't even finished the game

>>25059821
>Final boss
>Not Mewtwo
I had an easier time with the final boss that Mewtwo. Mewtwo is just bullshit followed by added bullshit so you have extra strength bullshit for your bullshit
Good for crops

>>25059760
Got it to work once I figured out I had to open Desmume.exe first.
Can most emulators work on desmume? Or do I have to download multiple emulators since some games aren't available for certain ones? (I'm guessing)

>>25059840
I wouldn't know, I'm still doing exactly what I said earlier except now I need to grind Pelipper Island for more Berries and Seeds since the stockpile I have isn't enough to keep up with the constant 2-Hit Kills

>>25059861
If you ever need a rescue we're here to help!

>>25059829
I guess I only counted Entei because that's the only one where you actually fight the boss twice (and the only one where you're scripted to lose the fight).

>>25059855
An emulator for a system will run almost, if not EVERY game for it.

Just open Desmume, locate the Sky ROM, and open it up. If you can't find it just drag the rom for Sky onto the icon for Desmume, it'll open automatically.

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>>25059247
>>25059350

>all this good taste in partners

i thought i was the only one

>>25059877
I got sky to work. I think I'm understanding this all better.

>>25059933
Since you don't seem to know much about emulators no offense to you at all, we were all new at one point you can save via savestates. You can use these at any time, and you can load them at any time. Think of it like having a bunch of save files that you can save and load even mid conversation

>>25059960
Yes, I'm completely new to it, any tips will help.

>>25060055
Emulators also generally have a fast forward button, which does exactly what it says, speeds the game up. Useful if you need to open up a ton of treasure chests in a row or buy a ton of Grab Bags

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>>25060074
I was gonna send a link of the emulator to a friend, but I'm gonna get him to play leaf green/fire red instead of a dungeon game. How do I tell which emulator is the best when downloading for emulators for other systems?

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>>25059821
>The Final Boss is guilty as fuck of doing this.

Dark Matter fight is only like that if you stay close to it because it uses the "smack everyone in radius" attack that chews through your seeds.

You're supposed to snipe it from far away, then the attacks are more manageable.

>>25060102
>Just another fight in which non-ranged attacks are almost worthless

>>25060099
Generally, I go with VBA, 1.8.0 looks like the most current proper release, but i've heard No$GBA is decent,

Maybe someone else in here can pick out the better one, never tried the latter

>>25060102
The Long-Range Attack can still reach you even if you aren't in his Melee Radius, and it still hurts like a bitch when you Devolve.

>>25059875
Another one(im playing as i monitor this thread btw)
>you defeat beheeyem
>he revives in animation
>your partner comes and saves you by tackling the guy
I swear, every fucking boss batle is like this.

>>25060130
and then he fucking goes
>UHH I AM ACTUALLY GOOD GUY I WAS RUNNING FROM THE BAD GUYS
>it is just a misunderstanding
WHAT THE F*CK IS UP WITH THE BOSS BATTLES OF THIS FRICKING GAME???

>>25060110
Welcome to Mystery Dungeon

I think I killed Rayquaza in the original game by throwing gravelrocks at it, and basically the same shit with Dialga

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>>25060102
>Dark Matter fight is only like that if you stay close to it because it uses the "smack everyone in radius" attack that chews through your seeds.
>Tfw that always missed me
>Tfw my partner would take the blow as well
>Tfw it usually took two hits to down us
>Tfw shit-ton of oran berries
I used probably 3 reviver seeds during that fight. and that was because Dark Matter changes typing

>>25060102
>not roiding up your HP
>not being able to take at least one sweep attack
>not spamming Alliances until it dies like a bitch

>>25060169
>>not being able to take at least one sweep attack
>>not spamming Alliances until it dies like a bitch
THIS. You guys need to just git gud

>>25060099
>How do I tell which emulator is the best when downloading for emulators for other systems?
There's not really a way to understand it from a bunch of results in a search engine or a list of emulators. I suggest you to read about it once in a while so you're informed. >>>/vg/emugen/, >>/vg/hbg/ and GBAtemp can be some good places to look at once in a while (at the cost of being popular places they're also full of shitposting). You don't need to lurk them continously, but doing this will get you to know this kind of stuff when you need it.

I use VBA when I need a GBA emulators, but if I'm lazy NO$GBA works too. mGBA is being developed, with the goal of being as close as possible to the actual GBA, so this might become better than VBA in the future.

>>25060169
>roiding up your HP

When the hell would you even find the time before the postgame? You don't get to dick around much in this game compared to the others.

>>25060169
>needing to use roids at all until you get far into post-game
scrub

I had to eat six apples in an 18-floor dungeon a while ago.

My only mission now is the 29-floor Heart Lake.

Am I really going to need about ten apples?

>>25060213
>>25060111
I just downloaded the vba emulator, but it only came with the .exe. Is this incorrect?
Also, I downloaded Fire red, but when I try to open it in the emulator, it just cycles between a few percentage numbers but never loads.
Should I just take this over to >>>/vg/emugen/ ?

>>25060219
You can still go to Pelipper Island and access Dungeons from there, then take the items you acquire, throw them into the Deposit Box and then pick them up in the Maingame.

>>25060169
>Using roids before post-game
Seems someone wasn't so good at this game

>>25060235
Did you switch leader at any point

>>25060238
Oh, I never touched Pelipper Island at all.

>>25060248
No, why?

>>25060260
You can also use it to Rescue Yourself if you have a team good enough for it, even during most Story Dungeons.

>>25060235
If you're lucky enough then you can find apples in the dungeon as you go. Bring four or five just in case though, and switch leaders when you get hungry if you need to conserve apples for whatever reason. And good luck, Heart Lake has some great music.

>>25060266
Each mon has a separate hunger counter, so that's 200 extra belly

>>25060272
WHAT THE FUCK

Well shit. Weird since they never get hungry normally.

>>25060270
>Implying I've had the volume up for more than a couple of the hundred hours I've played

>>25060282
>not enjoying the music

>>25060286
But anon, it's not real music, it's just video game music.

>>25060300
What does "real" mean?

>>25060236
They'd probably know more about it than me.

Man, a 30-floor dungeon takes a LOT longer to complete in SMD.

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>>25060879
Just think about Destiny Tower

>>25060892
Probably won't even bother.

>>25060896
casul

Hey guys

I'm playing Exploers of Sky on a r4i and was wondering if their was a way to make the bottom screen the top screen through a action replay code or a romhack?

Main reason being my top screen on my n3DS is a IPS screen while the bottom is TN

Has anyone used Shedinja effectively in these games? Would it be viable after dozens of life seeds and sitrus berries?

>>25060879
Emeras slow down dungeon crawling significantly

>>25060919
yep, it'd be downright broken

What other bonuses do Unown grant when you tag them along?

>Reach Grand Master rank
>Losing motivation to endure slogs through increasingly arduous dungeons for ugly legendaries

halp

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>choose Chespin as partner
>all that genki

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>>25061355

So I decided to play though explorers before starting super. I'm at temporal tower in EoD...is it still worth it to get Sky?

>>25061629
Not especially. Consider it as you would Platinum to D/P or Emerald to R/S.

You might want to grab an emulated copy from the OP, download a completed save file, and play through the Special Episodes, I guess.

>>25060102
>tfw just went up right next to Dark Matter and smacked its shit in both phases and used a pounce wand whenever it pushed me away
How do people have so much trouble with it? I only used 3 or 4 reviver seeds the whole fight and beat it on my first try while only being level 25.
Maybe I just got lucky with RNG and it didn't use the sweeping move on me as much as some other people, but it was still a pretty easy fight.

So, what was your Destiny Tower team? Who made the ascent?

If you didn't use your player and your partner, how dare you?

>>25061268
Eh. I'm not denying that Chespin's a good fit for the partner, because they are, but Fennekin's better just because they can snipe past you when you're leading the way, and can cover your ass from a distance.

Has anyone else realised how fun furret is to use?
> Bring enemy and team members next to you with follow me
>use baton pass and power up teammate
>use sucker punch

>>25061818
I'm only at the beginning, but pin missile and vine whip seem to be doing me well.

While in the last story dungeon, is it possible to teach starters moves that only their final forms can learn, e.g., dark pulse to Greninja?

>>25062529
Unfortunately no. I tried this because somehow I ended up back in Lively Town as Chesnaught/Blastoise after losing a fighting during a boss or some shit and I couldn't learn move tutor stuff only available to those forms.

>>25062529
Nope.
TMs and Stat Boosting Items have no effect when you're evolved, so you'll have to wait until you get done with all of that before you can use those items.

how do I see the enemy's health? I just seem to bash them until they're dead

also is the number of enemies on each floor static?

How the hell do I beat the second form of Dark Matter?

>>25062759
Attack it

>>25062633
>how do I see the enemy's health?
You can't.

>is the number of enemies on each floor static?
No. The initial number of Pokémon on a floor is random, and each turn there's a chance of the game generating a new 'mon somewhere on the floor, so it's quite variable.

>>25062802
Gee, thanks.

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Anons, any tips for getting through the destiny tower mission?

>Looplets
>Inventory

>>25062852
Step 1: Satiated Looplet, with Emera-Up Orbs for same. Parters can take any looplet they want, though I would suggest some of the stat-boosting treasures, or maybe the Mist Looplet if you have a readily spammable move.
Step 2: Max Elixirs. You're gonna need 'em.
Step 3: Reviver Seeds. If you think you have enough, you don't have enough and you should feel bad for thinking you have enough.
Step 4: Petrify Orbs. Probably around 3, or possibly more (though you can probably nab a Petrify, Totter, Slumber, or Foe-Seal Orb somewhere between Houses if you run out). Don't wanna get fucked up by a random Monster House near the end, now do you?
Step 5: Stayaway, Petrify, and Warp Wands. Most useful tools in the game for single targets. Throw in a few Pounce Wands if you still have space.
Step 6: Pray to Arceus that it's feeling benevolent enough to let you up.

>>25062837
There's not much else to it besides that. If it beats you, choose "give up" and it will spawn you and your partner in a room that takes you to it and its health is the same as it was before you lost.

>>25062837
>>25062759
>>25062802
I beat it it!

>that ending
Well that was sad. Oh well. Epilogue time!

>>25060919
For added fun, use a partner that can learn Soak.

The only real problem with just roiding Shedinja to the ends of the earth is that it doesn't get any room-clearing moves.

>>25061700
>accidentally unspoilering
Dark Matter was piss-easy for me too. I had more trouble with the Yveltal fight because I didn't focus it.

>>25063055
>Can't be taught Ominous Wind for some reason
>Only gets Silver Wind as an egg move

Gay.

>>25063090
>Magnet Bomb, Mirror Shot, and Flash Cannon are all 1-tile range moves
Why must I suffer this pain

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>>25063157
>Zap Cannon is the only ranged electric attack that doesnt hit the entire room

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>mfw recruiting a metric ton of Pokemon before I actually do any Epilogue Dungeons solely because of all the Letter Deliveries I did
>mfw recruiting even more in a single Dungeon because of my Mission Backlog in other continents

>>25063488
>bein a lull where I only get one or two missions per dungeon
>go to Noe Town for another two missions
>nine pokemon there wanting to talk and get connected

wow just got gangraped in Polywarth river in story mode

>twf when befriended 3 traveling pokemon in one dungeon
I was just doing Altaria's request, and I ran into Beldum, Unown ?, and Unown !.

>>25063455
This honestly upsets me.

>>25061818
Chespin/Wooper/Ampharos

Traveling Pokemon are great and all, but it's really annoying not being able to get a mon you want without randomly finding it.

Just imagine. Masquerain naturally learns Ominous Wind, Silver Wind, and Quiver Dance. Add Blizzard by TM and you've won.

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>>25064174
>ominous wind and silver wind
>mfw it has both of these when you run into it in ZIS

6 Pokemon to go in Blue, I'm going to try to recruit an Exeggcute the normal way though, i'm almost out of Joy Seeds to help out my runs

>>25062883
Where do I find the satiated looplet?

>>25064478
Look at the treasure list in the OP.

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>>25061818
I wrote Field Journal, that in itself explains it

Are Pokemon's level up stats fixed?

>>25065193
Yes, for all of the games.

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Please help, I'm in the Cape of Wonders and I already failed 2 of my chances.

Do rescue missions automatically appear on Pelliper island for other people once I request to be saved and visit there or do I have to make a QR code and beg people on forums?

>tfw trying to do mysterious jungle as froakie

Damn, the animation for Gravity is fucking calamitous. it looks like the dungeon is caving in.

>>25065372
imma comin for ya, anon! sit tight.

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>>25065372
>>25065775
here's your rescue QR code. i included a reviver seed in the letter

Roughly how much HP does Mewtwo have?

>>25065893
Thanks a lot anon. I may not have much, but I'll send you something.

>>25066093
no need to send anything, dude. just make it through that dungeon all right. pelipper gave me a foe-seal orb for finishing your mission, and that's fine and dandy by me.

pmd is getting into my dreams fuck

I had a dream that there was a dungeon in PSMD where you could actually recruit Pokemon but the catch was that every room in it was a Monster House and most enemies had looplets and could use ridiculous items.
It apparently had a name that made it seem easy and I remember also in the dream coming onto 4chan to rant about it.

>>25066322
You're still dreaming

>>25066076
1842

>>25066322
>A dream about PSMD
>Subconscious forgot to make it smutty

You wasted it

>>25066380
not him but I associate PSMD with pain and frustration, not fucking or anything enjoyable

>>25066322
weird, because i had a dream about PMD last night as well.

except i was convincing someone who absolutely HATED pokemon to try it out. i explained the game in detail and showed them a few dungeons and surprisingly, they liked it a lot and bought a copy for themselves.

i have no idea why this happened or what prompted this, but immediately after that i had another dream where i was pulling worms out of my arms.

so that's a thing.

I've decided that because of my limited Flamethrower TMs and Joy Seeds, I'm going to try to get Exeggcute and Skitty the normal way.

Wish me luck guys, i'm going to really need it.

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>>25066322
Only dream I had in the same situation was years ago. It was actually fresh after Explorers came out.

My partner and I finished exploring the entire continent. I was a teenager at the time so yes of course it ended extremely lewdly on sharpedo bluff.

I don't remember much else about it. Its hard to remember a dream unless its significant.

Porygon-Z currently knows
>Tri Attack
>Psybeam
>Nasty Plot
>Discharge

Would you replace with Nasty Plot with another ranged move like Ice Beam?

>>25066376
Lawd.

>>25066543
I would replace Psybeam with Ice Beam just because ice beam is stronger and has good coverage (which totally doesn't matter)

Just finished psmd, really cool ending

Anyone else have to rescue themselves with their nukes? I was contemplating using them last time a dungeon kicked my ass but I got hit with the old "but I might need them later" and the guys I went with just barely made the rescue in time.

>>25066613
nukes?

>>25066622

Pokemon like Salamence that are fully evolved and far higher a level then you but as a result, become unusable for a long if you actually use them.

>>25066629
oh

for some reason I was thinking blast seeds

>Whismur used Astonish!
>Shedinja took 34 damage!
>Shedinja fainted.
>Whismur evolved into Loudred
What the hell, those are both enemies on this floor. I was in the same room as them, but on the other side. I had no idea that they would ever attack each other if they weren't confused or something.

>>25066659
enemies eagerly seek out really weak enemies such as shedninja so they can evolve. it's rad.

>>25066659
Shedinja attacks nothing, not even you. Think of it as the only "neutral" pokemon

Enemies attack it to evolve. I just get the image that shedinja wants to be alone but keeps getting bullied

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>>25066703
>tfw I turned Shedinja into a monstrous machine of death

>It's an Emera-Swap Trap!
>The Dizzying Stare on the Resilient Looplet was changed to Better Odds!
>The Emera-Swap Trap broke.
Oh god yes

>>25066759
Me and my partner are already at 200 HP, so not sure if I should keep boosting theirs or dump some into Shedinja.

What moveset?

Haunter being meta
>No, I thought I was immortal!
>At least, that's according to the setting.

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>>25066703
When sadfic of bullied shedinja?

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>run into Exeggcute
>attack it without equipping Friend Bow
>recruit it anyways
>mfw

>>25066967
Nice!

>>25066804
Hone Claws
Leech Life
and just two other moves to fit the current challenge. Generally I stick with attack moves.

>>25066987
Time for Skitty, who's probably the deadliest enemy in the game this side of parasect

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>>25067003
>skitty is level TWENTY-TWO
>on floors where the second strongest pokemon are level 15

>>25067002
Spite could be nice because it effectively neuters bosses. Shadow Ball is always nice to have. I guess you could use Shadow Sneak over Spite if you only want attacking moves + hone claws (or you just want another physical move). Phantom Force is strong, too, and it's especially good for the leader since most enemies will walk into it.

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>>25067003
>>25067027
>having to manage to survive multiple Level 22 Skitty that pack Attract in case Cute Charm doesn't kick in, Sing to annoy you even more, Assist to randomly pull a move from any of the other Pokemon on that floor, and worst of all Doubleslap which will likely KO you multiple times due to STAB and Multihit Moves being retardedly overpowered
At least Joyous Tower lets you bring Items, but holy fuck.

>>25067230
Linked Frustration+Frustration is a good tactic, maybe. I have the reviver seeds to back me up if all 5 hits 1shot

Fuck SMD is a lot harder than the previous ones, or maybe it's only because I insist on using my hero and partner.
Is there any good way to grind levels so that I don't get fuckled by everything?

>>25067318
You're apparently supposed to use items on everything.

If you're still in the story, not much you can do but tough it out. The wonder mail codes in the OP can help.

>>25067318
If you aren't Post-Epilogue yet, there aren't really ways to grind because of how quickly the game pushes you to progressing the story.
But you can access Pelipper Island at any time once you gain access to it, where you can go through dungeons with your other Pokemon to acquire items and give them EXP.
Best part of it is those items will go to storage when you leave Pelipper Item so you can use them in the Main Game.

>>25067344
Pelipper Island, not Item, fuck.

>>25067318
same here. This is my first MD game and coming from the main series I was shocked at the difficulty level of even some of the early chapters. You can usually go through the main games blindfolded but here I constantly have to think about my item distribution, battle placement etc.

Just starting SMD, who the fuck should I play as?

>>25067417
your favorite top tier

>>25067417
Whoever you want to play as.

>>25067417
Chespin

>>25067419
>>25067420

I used mudkip in the old games because Water/Ground seemed like a good idea over any pure typing, do pure typing starters actually get fucked in this game?

>>25067423
mudkip is pure water, anon

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>>25067230
FIRST MOTHERFUCKING SKITTY JOINS

FUCK YOU JOYOUS TOWER, I'M DONE WITH YOU

>>25067445
What else are you missing, Anon?

>>25067453
The final four pokemon are

Rapidash
Slowking
Blissey
Jirachi


Assuming i find a King's Rock and Slowking doesnt join on that trip, i have a minimum of 3 trips

>>25067460
The first three have to be evolved to acquire.
Good luck with getting another Chansey if you want a Living Dex.

>>25067471
Can't I just recruit them via wishing?

>686/720

WHOO
TIME FOR 40-FLOOR HELL DUNGEONS

>>25067474
Shit, I didn't even know about that since I never got Lucario Rank.

>>25067489
The reason i evolved the Exeggcute and Skitty i had was because i was afraid of this. It's sad i dont even know this because I'm the guide writer for the OP.

I can't see anything against it online, and I'm not down with leveling a Ponyta 39 goddamned levels or grinding a Chansey's IQ. I'm just going to wish for those two to be recruitable via doing this

What's the highest-level move you have, Hyperspace Hole nonwithstanding?

My Vine Whip is about to hit V.

>>25067776
VI Heat Wave, maxed from drinks 2 move levels ago

I'm guessing Kecleon has regular stats this time around.

>>25067811
Kecleon takes ages to level up though. I've seen nearly half a million to level up once before level 50

>>25067820
>Suddenly, memories of Dragon Quest V DS

So what's even the point of freezing?

Wow, that Mewtwo fight was a million times easier than I expected. It took me about six tiny reviver seeds, two truant wands, and one ban seed.

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Congratulations to the winners of Red/Blue Rescue Team poll.

>>25067968
I think fire type moves thaw and do damage.

So, considering the game will release soon for me, what are the best starters?

>>25068683
Chespin and Fennekin are widely regarded as the best, due to Chespin's Pin Missile and Rollout and Fennekin's early Psybeam and general sniping ability. Either works for the partner's personality, too (though personally I prefer the doggo). As for the player, I see a lot of people going Snivy/Fennekin - Snivy's got good short-range moves, but near-zero sniping capability. Otherwise, just do whatever. You can beat the game with practically anything, although Riolu's a bit of a hard sell due to learning barely any moves by TM and nothing by level-up past 15 (except Screech, which is useless) in levels you'll achieve in the game. I would also recommend against Froakie, because despite how much I like Froakie's design, the level-up moves, the egg/bonus moves, and the given stat spread are...not internally consistent.

>>25068683
The ones you like most
If you are a tryhard and bad at the game, you can listen to this too >>25068921

>six star exploration mission in snowy cave
>decide to bring heatran to help out against ice types
>get in the dungeon and it's water types
>only ice types are walrein and dewgong with thick fat
>the only items on the ground are plain looplets
>proceed to rage for 17 straight floors

>>25068683
Chikorita is a great partner. It learns stuff like Reflect, Light Screen, etc. Very good for keeping you safe while you mow down the enemies.

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>>25068683
I saved this a while ago, I don't know if anything's changed since then though

>>25069282
>>25069273

Also, move Riolu down to the Bronze Tier.

>>25069282
>>25069309
>look at these opinions, they're the truth! i can get /pol/ to confirm it if you don't believe it because le /pol/ is always right meme!

>>25068683
Just go with your favourites.

>>25069322
What the fuck does /pol/ have to do with anything

>>25069322
HOLY SHIT GUYS STOP TALKING ABOUT PANCAKES

>>25067041
Actually, I don't think Spite works on bosses.

>meganium does a back flip when you talk to it
wut

>tfw motivated pokemon are shitmons

>>25069282
What starters actually show the scarf on their graphic?
Playing as Totodile made it look like a clip-on tie.

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>>25061268
>>25068921

>>25068921
>although Riolu's a bit of a hard sell due to learning barely any moves
>Tfw I had an easier time with Riolu than Snivy
Riolu is great. You guys just never gave him a chance

>>25070891
Vacuum Wave/Quick Attack/Force Palm/Bite is decent enough to get through, especially if you have a Long-Range Attacker like Charmander or Fennekin backing it up.
Having Riolu pays off once you can evolve it and have a field day with Hawlucha for both Relearner and Tutor purposes.

>>25070915
>Vacuum Wave/Quick Attack/Force Palm/Bite
>No Reversal
>No Counter
That shit will save your life. You're playing Riolu wrong, my friend

>>25070940
Mine was too glassy to survive long enough to abuse Reversal, and there are far too many Long-Range Attackers by Endgame to actually use Counter effectively.

>>25070950
>Mine was too glassy to survive long enough to abuse Reversal
Glassy is right.. Once I got Reversal and replaced Counter with that, I was an unstoppable killing machine. You're supposed to replace Counter with Reversal once you learn it. You don't need both
>and there are far too many Long-Range Attackers by Endgame to actually use Counter effectively
Like I said, you drop Counter once you learn Reversal. And by endgame you should evolve to Lucario to get Bone Rush and Aura Sphere
Your entire role as Riolu is bodyguard throughout the game until Epilogue. You block incoming attacks with Counter, hit people from afar with Vaccume Wave and Quick Attack, and your partner snipes. You are made to body block enemies from reaching your partner
Once you learn Reversal, replace Counter with that. Now you're a boss killer. With Toughness, you can take OHKO's with 1 hp left. Reversal works based on how much health you have. The less the health, the more damage it does
Thus, you just start spamming that the more your health goes down until you fall or until the enemy falls. If you play your cards right, you can just OHKO enemies due to how low your health is by using Reversal

Like I said: You're your partners bodyguard. They snipe, you bodyblock and RKO into an Aegis Reflector anyone that tries to get between you and them
You cannot have it hard with Riolu

>>25071008
see >>25070915

>Shellder and Cloyster join at levels 26 and 23 respectively
Well that's bullshit

>>25070691
What are deerling and espurr talking about?

>>25071111
who gets to top next

>>25071111
They're talking about quads and how bad Vice Principal Watchog smells

>>25071111
they're talking about who is the cutest

>>25071111
Plotting the destruction of the patriarchy

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How do I make the sadness go away.

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>>25071428
hugs

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>>25071444
But my partner's gone, I have no one to hug. It was a Fennekin.

>>25071428
Take it for a drive and abandon it on the side of the road somewhere far from civilization.

>>25071463
>Not going on a hunting trip

>>25071462
You must embrace pain and burn it as fuel for your journey.

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>>25071462
S A V E
A
V
E

Here is some cutelewd I wrote for phox to fuel your protectiong http://pastebin.com/D9HqGSQB

Flygon is actually really good in PSMD. It gets earth power and earthquake by level-up (eq is usable when the rest of the team is immune to ground), and you can tutor it both heat wave and draco meteor. Slap a resilient looplet on it, and you don't have to worry at all about draco's stat-lowering.

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>>25071462
she always comes back.

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>>25071462
She'll be back. You just have to believe

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Back into Wish Cave. I'm unsure if wishing will actually let you recruit Blissey and Rapidash, but I need to hope it does. Even if you can't, I can still mark down that it can't so everyone knows

>>25071974
Godspeed, Anon.

huh. Epilogue was certainly different.

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>708/720 species

I'M SO EXCITED
AND I JUST CAN'T HIDE IT

Elixirs, VItamins and TMs certainly look manmade
But without humans to make them, could them be considered to be a limited resource?
What would happen if the supply runs out?

>>25072438
Vitamins are harvested and refined in the Grass Continent from it's bountiful mining and farming areas, making the nation one of the most potent trading centers in the world. The Kecleon guild originated first on the Air Continent, but would later make it's base of operations smack in the center of the Grass.

Anyone saying the Mewtwo fight is the hardest in the game is full of shit.

>>25072438
Well, Pokémon can apparently create buildings, I don't really see how they couldn't do that

>>25072468
Did you use a ban seed?

>>25072480
I did.

Currently making my way to Palkia/Dialga/Rayquaza again.

>>25072504
They aren't that bad if you get good emeras on your way up.
I didn't even have to use reviver seeds the second time I fought them.

>>25072538
How? Roar of Time and Spacial Rend halve everyone's HP, and Dragon Ascent was hitting Chespin for 175.

>>25072552
Just bring along stuff with Memento

>>25072552
I can't remember what all I had but I think I had a lullaby and barrage emeras on both my main and partner.
I might have had a Better odds or critical boost one too, I'm not sure.
I have riolu as my main, so I used Thunder punch often during the battles and in combination with the lullaby emeras they didn't get many attacks in, and when they did I healed myself with drain punch immediately after, Rayquaza didn't even get a single hit in.

>>25072597
Won this time, mainly because of better emeras. I miss IQ.

Just got to 20f, Kecleon/Wooper are level 17, Charizard and the Skarmory i picked up are level 15. Grinding is essential on 18-19f.

Skarmory's not going to last much longer, as it's just a meat shield. Now the real run begins

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>>25071608
Good shit

>>25072470
Most pokemon buildings look like poor imitations of human buildings.
Example: all of Noe Town.

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>do a "get this item from this criminal" mission for the first time
>there's another rescue team there
>they start fucking attacking me
>they all refuse to die
>like hundreds of hundreds of damage put upon them and they won't die
>use all my reviver seeds, run out, party members all faint
>have to run away to avoid them
>one of them chases down the Liepard
>grabs the item and runs away
>Try Again

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>25072813
A sign that you need to git gud, and always have a paralysis orb or two on hand for unexpected shit like that.

>>25072826
It just came out of nowhere, man. I was just doing some Water Continent missions as filler while I try to gather enough good items to take on the Sand Dune of Spirits alone, I didn't expect to get wiped by something in Stone Field.

>>25072813
Let that one be for a while. It's nearly impossible to do as soon as it's available. I did it a bit later on by spamming Heat Waves.

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>>25072813
>use Paralysis Orb (or some other orb to get the enemy team out of your hair)
>block exits with teammates
>attack criminal, chase it around the room until it dies
>collect item

>>25072844
I used a Petrify Orb and Pounce Wands and had no problem

>>25072839
Expect the unexpected anon. Always be prepared.
I have only ever seen the mission fail screen once and that was because the fucking shit licker I was hunting spawned right next to the goddamn stairs and bailed like a pussy fuck as soon as I hit him. That goddamn motherfucking shit.
But seriously, pack for any situation and not just the ones you know for sure you'll encounter.
Git gud.

>>25072877
It's impossible to pack for any situation with only 48 slots. Half of the time I make it to the destination/boss floor, see how it fucks me up, reset after losing, and pack accordingly for the second go.

>>25072906
48 slots is fucking huge.
Aside from basic shit like looplets, apples, elixirs, oran berries, and reviver seeds, I always bring: one escape orb, 2 petrify orbs, a totter orb, stayaway wands, pounce wands, petrify wands, and truant wands. I am packed for every situation.

I just finished this game. What the fuck was all of that? What the fuck happened? How is a pokemon game supposed to get real so quickly when I was just having fun times with my bro? Actually how the fuck did I get so attached to my partner??? And why the fuck am I crying?

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>>25072924
Can you fucking believe the gall of the credits?
I don't even remember what the song sounded like because I stopped giving a shit.

>>25072906
Sure it is. I'm just fine with just 18 currently. Though my team has attacks and enough roids to make them death incarnate so I don't use items much anymore.
Wands make this game easy as hell if you know how to use them and blast seeds in my experience did around 100 damage. I saved blast seeds for bosses during the early game when I was underleveled and had few problems.

>>25072922
>Totter Orb
To what purpose? Why not just more Petrify Orbs?

>>25072924
Welcome to the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series. Prepare for repeated emotional kicks in the dick. Remember to always cherish the smile.

>>25069268
Yup. When that shit happened to me I just turned the game off four floors in.

>>25072950
Enemies recover from petrification as sson as you hit them once.

>>25072924
Honestly, I wasn't expecting that twist either.
I'm also not sure if I should be glad or disappointed that everything between Dark Matter and reuniting with your Partner didn't take that long compared to Time/Darkness/Sky in terms of "WHEN THE FUCK CAN I EVOLVE US ALREADY".

>>25072942

The fucking credits ate me alive. Like I didn't already believe what just happened there and I'm sitting there waiting to see what is going to happen to bring him back and after a brief pause of my character crying in silence he continues while the credits just roll.

The most agonizing thing was the wait to see if anything happens after the credits. I'm somewhat hopeful, but I imagine I will have to find someone to fill his spot

>>25072989
The game isn't done shoving the plot down your throat yet, so you'll still be busy for awhile.
Hope you stocked up on Wands and Orbs, because you'll be doing at least two Dungeons by yourself.

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>>25072989
I hope you're resolute in how far you'll go to protect that smile, you're going to need it.

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>>25072974
>evolving your starters

>>25072989
>Filling your partners spot
I couldn't do it. I ended up doing missions solo after I lost my partner.

>>25073003
>>25073000

I'll go as far as I need to, I'm not letting it end like this. Out of curiosity though, are the other games this good at getting you like this? I rarely feel anything in games/movies, which is why I'm really surprised this got me as hard as it did.

It's a good feeling and I want to play more like it.

>>25073033
Starter was Charmander, Partner was Riolu.
Air Slash is a must-have for when STAB Heat Wave/Flamethrower wont slice through some enemies, and Riolu's too much of a shitter to keep unevolved in comparison to what Lucario can learn.

>>25073067
>not going out of your way to pick starters you dont need to evolve for moves

I mean as long as you like them, fine, but evolving starters is like a crime for me

>>25073036
I can vouch for Rescue Team and Explorers giving you feelings, but I haven't played Gates.

>>25073092
Gates would have been better if it wasn't for everything being so mediocre.
The twist that everyone would forget that you existed once you disappeared would have been great if it wasn't for MUH POWER OF FRIENDSHIP making that completely irrelevant.

>>25073035
Oh boy, you are so in for additional emotional pain

>>25073033
>not wanting to reach maximum potential
FUCK not getting more stats for evolving

>>25073114
>not destroying the hardest dungeons with an unevolved mon just to rub it in

>>25073102
What? do you mean when mew joins you? I was ok with that for some reason.
I finished the game almost a month ago.

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>tfw sort of regret roiding up Cinccino because he becomes a dead weight as soon as Bullet Seed is depleted

Lost the Magmortar boss. I thought I was going to fight Entei? Do I ever get to? Thanks.

>>25073163
You do. Get ready for some shit.

>>25073163
Immediately after said boss. It's exactly as bullshit as you think it is. At first, anyway. Just you wait.

>>25073146
PP up drinks man

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Question,

is it possible to get Darkrai before mewtwo?

I'm autistic enough to want a mewtwo vs. darkrai showdown.

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>>25073165
>>25073172

Thanks anons, I'm hype as fuck and also slightly scared

>>25073205
>Chickorita

You asked for this.

>>25073196
Yes.

>>25073212
I have no idea what my plan is other then spam wands and hope I dont die

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>>25073205
>Chickorita
I hope that jaw of yours has insurance

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>>25073298
>>25073212

>totter orb
>slowly alliance attack every one
>keep magmortar at bay with warp, slumber and petrify wands
>surround him last and chickorita in the back with razor leaf safe from harm

>Next PMD game
>When any Pokemon besides your starter or partner is defeated, they're gone forever a la Fire Emblem

Y/N

>>25073416
Fuck no, i dont think you could have a worse idea for PMD

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>>25073298
>>25073212
>>25073172

HOLY FUCK I JUST GOT TO THE EVOLVE CUTSCENE THIS IS HYPE AS FUCK

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https://soundcloud.com/lotias/057-staff-roll-draft
I made another remix draft [again]

I might prioritize finishing this one, because I like it a lot

When visiting every dungeon, does it work to deposit all my stuff and let myself die in each one? I'd rather not have to use 30 escape orbs.

>level 24 on floor 66

This is going to be a cakewalk. I've found no reviver seeds, but i'm so good that i dont need a single one.

>>25073481
Yes. I got credit for going to every dungeon even after i went into Sacred Ruins and got my ass beat.

>>25073496
Alright, cool.

>>25073496
Wait, you don't have to fully clear the dungeons to get credit?

99F, time to beat Jirachi again and see if i can recruit fully evolved mons

>>25073612
not in SMD

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>>25073624
God damn that's a relief. Nowhere on the entire internet said you couldn't recruit stuff like this, but i was still worried since the game prioritized unevolved pokemon.

Easiest run i've had in a long time. Finished at a high level, and got screech early, making it a cakewalk

I noticed Pokémon whose levels are lower than mine are randomly becoming unavailable, even when I haven't used them in a while. I remember weaker Pokémon almost always not being busy in PSMD.

>>25073700
It's based on Levels and Chance.

Do you get anything for finding all the secret treasures?

>>25074092
Crowns!

They do nothing.

What's the fastest way to commit suicide in a dungeon? My weakest recruit is at level 40.

>>25074141
I already have one crown, but was hoping there'd be a real reward for getting all four.

>>25074162
You get a fifth crown!

I have a pokemon with sheer cold, encourage seed, training seed, and accuracy drink.
Good idea? Also where can I go to find a monster house?

New thread

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>>25074542
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