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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, 26th of June:
1830 – William IV becomes king of Britain and Hanover.
1843 – Treaty of Nanking comes into effect, Hong Kong Island is ceded to the British "in perpetuity".
1848 – End of the June Days Uprising in Paris.
1857 – The first investiture of the Victoria Cross in Hyde Park, London.


>News
CK2 DD 55 - Nurture vs Nuisance
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-55-nurture-vs-nuisance.1030752/

EU4 DD 20/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-20th-of-june-2017.1031010/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!vIQnEZJK!5YCtpPMElgZJ3DDaVSaxJqEGym87SKZxfx-uKVwZmqM

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.2 - 02/06/2017
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>180701443
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>Want to do an AAR of my game
>Never remember to take screenshots

brb necking myself
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>HIP for CK2
>Metal music

What the fuck
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>>180844605
You literally just press F11, how can you forget that?
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>>180849035
That's the sabaton DLC, it has nothing to do with HIP.
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>>180849832
She looks horrible tho
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HPM has been pretty active, is he back for good?
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>>180849035
It comes from a DLC retard
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>>180844605
What game
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>>180850390
Show europe
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>>180850075
Yes
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>>180850509
And?
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What are some good colonies to take in V2?
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Give me a single-province muslim to start a brand new 789 CK2 game with
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>>180850837
Nigeria, Indonesia, India, a few treaty ports
Anything with lots of pops really
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AARnon where?

>>180850837
Nigeria, Ethiopia, Egypt and Congo are usually the best ones, but who are you playing as so we can make sure you aren't incorrectly blobbing
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>>180850908
Shit, that's hard.
Someone in Grana? Saladdin?
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Daily reminder that Zoroastrianism is the original monotheistic religion.
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>>180850970
Ethiopia is a shithole tho, why would it be a good colony?
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>>180850908
somewhere in egypt or along the silk road
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>>180851067
Zoroastrianism is a meme religion
Allahu akbar, bitch
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>>180851068
plenty of pops, good defensive terrain.
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>>180850075
No
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>>180851067
>Zoroastrianism
If it's so good why the fuck did it get BTFO by muslims?
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>>180851082
Wait
You can?
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>>180851201
t. Farsi-speaking Arab rapebaby
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>>180851272
It's poor as fuck tho
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>>180851579
t. meme religion worshiper
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>>180851067
Is Zoroastrianism older than judaism?
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>>180851579
>Farsi-speaking Arab rapebaby
So, all Iranians?
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>>180851895
LOL
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>>180851969
Serious question, mong
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Is Stellaris good now?
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>>180850727
>Bosniaks are croatian, no matter their religion.

That's the most retarded thing I ever read here.
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soon laddos
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>>180852219
Wait
IS ME AND YOU 2 COMING OUT?
REALLY? AFTER YEARS OF WAIT?
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>>180852219
FINALLY I CAN PLAY BLOATMOD
BEEN WAITING SINCE EU3
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Is there really no game as event/RP-heavy as CK2?
It's so weird thinking you found a new genre you like but end up only liking one game
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>>180852382
CK2 is almost a RPG, so no.

Depends tho, I can roleplay in any of these games.
Maybe you like CK2 because it's personal.
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>>180852095
Nope and wrong thread.
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>>180849312
tell us how it went when you're done
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>>180851895
No, it's propaganda
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>>180852219
CAN'T WAIT TO RUN THE GAME AT 10 FOS
MY BLOAT IS READY
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>>180852715
This
Seeing people fail is way funnier than succeeding
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>>180851895
>>180852739
Just read Jewpedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism
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>>180852219
Based
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>>180852301
>2 years
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Is anyone else who runs Dark World getting lots of quick, sudden CTDs? I don't know if it's Dark World's fault, or just my CK2 installation is corrupt at this point.

>>180851067
AND NO EVIL CAME FROM HIM

>>180851526
Maybe HoI4. Definitely not 2, 3, or DH.
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>>180852715
What game is he playing anyway?
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>>180852458
Stellaris
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>>180853215
Yeah, there's a bug with a mod, I think there's a fix in the forums
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>>180853215
Yeah
A navy in 3 takes fucking ages to be built
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>>180853324
Meant for >>180852382
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>>180853215
>AND NO EVIL CAME FROM HIM
What did he mean by this?
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>>180849221
This is the proper thread lad
>using duplicate threads
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>>180853223
EU4
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k lads. playing road to 1956 in hoi4 is really something else, it modifies and improves every single national focus tree for all of the major nations, i dont know how is possible for modders to do 10 times a better job than paradox.
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Why no one posts HoI3?
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>>180854061
too hard :^=)
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>>180854017
most of them are my puppets.
>>180854061
it runs like shit in my pc.
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Good eu4 mods?
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>>180854017
Is the mod good? What does it do?
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>>180854017
is that Mosely's Britain?
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>>180854192
>tfw I can run hoi4 at max graphics + mods
>days go by like the breeze
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>>180854195
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=820260968
the mod adds national focus trees for almost every single nation, expands the research tree. it also used to fix the ai a little bit i dont know if it still does
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>>180854194
VeF
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>>180854194
unistall.exe
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>>180854194
Mt
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>>180852715
Sure

>>180852886
Thanks for the vote of confidence.
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>>180854324
Cool
Any non steam links?
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>>180854464
>Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Your welcome :^)
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>>180854256
no, that is a imperialist britain under Edward VIII while having a fascist government with mosley as the front of the political party
>>180854479
http://hearts-of-iron-4.smods.ru/archives/1754
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>>180854324
Nice
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>>180852715
Also, anything else I should keep in mind? I'm going to vassal a Irish minor and feed it and then try and get colonising as soon as I get the second idea group.
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>>180854359
Nice meme you meme loving fuck
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>>180854726
Don't overdo your AE lad
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>>180854194
Too autistic
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This triggers the slav
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>>180854996
>terrain map mode
WHY
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>>180854898
Mmhm, just to give me a rough timestamp, in what year should I be seeking to take France/Ireland/Scotland, or indeed which order should I take it?
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>>180854195
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>>180854996
Based third reich
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>>180855115
>>180854324
it also adds more customization of your government with laws, for example i always go with enforced patriarchy, closed doors, hierarchy, ideology struggle, and divine inspiration once i have the technologies that i want
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/itla5k1and28ofg/M%26T_v2.00.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/file/itla5k1and28ofg/M%26T_v2.00.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/file/itla5k1and28ofg/M%26T_v2.00.7z
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When the prussia memes too hard
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>>180854996
>1846
lad you play one month per hour?
are you even playing?
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>>180854754
thanks
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>>180854996
>puppeting Norway but not Denmark
wut.
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>>180855109
No
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>>180855362
BASED AS FUCK
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>>180855362
Thanks
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>>180855450
Makes sense tho
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>>180855375
What
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>>180855375
What happened
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Why is v2 so good?
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>>180855362
Is it good?
What are the changes?
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>>180850970
>AARnon where?
Not today, got shit sleep and forgot I have something to do this afternoon. Wouldn't be able to keep up with myself while posting.

Tomorrow for sure. And I should be able to post clear through to the end.
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>>180855910
Pops
Tries to actually simulate something
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>>180853669
Ahura Mazda, it's a variation of an appellation you're supposed to apply to him when describing him. Basically, only good came from Ahura Mazda, as he was pure benevolence.

And thus, no evil came from him.
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>>180855910
actual economic warfare
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>>180856020
:(
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>>180855749
>>180855802
muscovy and hungary came naturally because of royal mariage
Spain I claimed and attacked
France got trough succesion war against poland
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>>180856312
>blobbing
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>>180856470
Fuck off with your reddit drama
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>>180856470
literally no one cares fuck off

GSG related content only please
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>>180856678
This
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>>180856196
>economic warfare
>no blockades
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>>180855802
Shit
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>>180857095
I can blockade all of ottomemes but they will still stay solvent and out of bankruptcy for years, in vicky2 cut off the rubber/oil supply and you not only invalidate your enemy's army you send their economy into freefall
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>>180856312
>spain
why
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>>180857696
Like most things. No reason
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>>180857696
Glorious revolution
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>that name
>those stats
Groovy.
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OwO whats this?
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>>180857779
Wait, HPM does drag?

>>180858504
I still will never get why after all these years of EUIV, they still can't do some of the points miscmods did all those years ago.

That said, the Midwest kept a lot of the Native names for places.
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What are the advantages from going from tribal to feudal in CK2? Better troops, although less? More annoying vassals? Faster tech? Is going to feudal always desirable?
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>>180858908
2.6.3?
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>>180858992
Taxes, money, more powerful infantry/cavarly and an easier time to manage the realm.
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>>180858908
>mommy Slaanesh will never hug you
>she will never coo in your ear and call you her favorite son

Why even bother carrying on?
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>>180850674
>>180851321
the duality of a man
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>>180859141
>changing government makes you lose all your troops leaving vulnerable for a while
I guess in the end it will be worth the while right?
>>
>at work
>Nothing to do
>watching lets plays that are 2 years old
>boss tells me to file papers so I look busy

tfw you will never be an aristocrat
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I'm thinking of playing Czechoslovakia in HOI3, how hard is it to survive?
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Based janny btfoing steamcordplaza
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>no israelmod in the OP
I bet the jews did thi... oh wait
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>>180858908
This map is so hard to look at
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>gas so many south german NIGGERS that alsace lorraine and the sudetenland become LESS german
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Is there a way to nerf the westernization of China until a revolution overwhelms the Qing because I'm really tired of an 1880s westernized china ruling the world
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>>180860909
no
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>>180860768
Who cares, just make sure not a single South German exists by 1936.
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>>180860909
HPM is actually going to buff China, so I doubt it
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>>180860909
Play HPM, they westernize around the end game

>>180861054
he's just dealing with rebel spam
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>not linking the old thread in the OP
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>>180861158
>he's just dealing with rebel spam
That's the only thing that really keeps China from being overpowered tho
although i do think that's better than having an unplayable country
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>>180861343
Not really,they have several isolationist modifiers and he talked about making them more conservative
Ask him next time but I don't think he plans to change chinese westernization
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Do I do it, or do I wait for Maine?
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>>180862247
Don't be a pussy.
>>
JUST DO IT
MAKE
YOUR DREAMS
COME TRUE
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>>180862247
Go for it, show those frogs what the Anglo can do.
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>>180862247
do it laddo
if you fail you haven't lost much time anyways
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vicky 3 will have mana :3
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>>180862859
Vicky 3 will have ingame microtransactions and be required to play online because all actual game is done on paradox servers not on your computer
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>>180862859
Vicky 3 will never happen because the entire economic system was programed by 1 dude, who has now left the company. Nobody else knows what the fuck do with it or how it even works. And nobody wants to try and make a new one.
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>>180863354
replace it with arrows and arbitrary numbers
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>>180863354
why did he leave the company?
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>>180863885
IDK, he left like 5-6 years ago.
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>>180863107
If this can let me play at max speed without slowdowns that make it just as slow as 3 speed I'm all for it
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Who was more based?
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>>180864174
If you want to be isolationist and withdraw from NATO? Dewey. If you want to fight commies? Truman.
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Give me a good, non meme start in ck2
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Okay, so I've been playing vanilla China and I can see why HPM nerfed the hell out of it. You'd think playing China during the century of humiliation would be harder.
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>>180864331
ireland
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>>180864331
Dirk V of Holland. Unite the Netherlands and secede from the HRE.
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What was that cold war wargame some anon posted yesterday? It looked autistic as hell
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And oh boy what a reroll, Provonce got excommunicated, and the Burgundians have been kicking the frogs in. Then the Surrender event happened, and I said no as always expecting to go to war, but they actually gave in for once. Now I'm just waiting for my manpower to build up again and for the War of the Roses to end. Got a 5/4/3 ruler though.

This is why I love Paradox games.
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>>180864174
NATO a shit
Do Dewey
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>>180865381
Meant to reply to
>>180862340
>>180862375
>>180862537
>>180862641

I got squished the first time (I got careless and lost one stack in Orleans), this game is proving to be quite interesting. Do missions change if you don't take them or do you have to accept and cancel to 'reroll' them?
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>>180865091
CMANO
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>>180854017
Road to 56 is a horrible mod, a mish mash of conflicting mods. Look at USA.
Play Kaiserreich
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Another genocide, targeting Catholics again. The pop density map is now incredible. The South and Poland is completely barren where as the north still has all their people.
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>>180866706
god
I wish anon didn't tell me it was good
I had it downloaded, just spent hours in this retarded mod

worse than hpm
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>>180866985
Why aren't there unemployed pops to genocide?
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is there any way i can make it easier for ai to have a friendly attitude besides rivals and just improving relations?
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>>180867563
almost as gay as anime
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Guys is the interest bug still around in Victoria 2/HPM mod?
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>>180867883
>HPM mod
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>>180867883
Also thinking of trying to do the big green Portugal belt and monopolizing the rubber economy, regardless of whether it works or not I'm planning on doing a stress test on my new computer and seeing how far I can go if I set the date for 3999, should I do napoopan or HPM?
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>>180866985
>le epic genocide is the most fun you can get out of victoria 2
what a boring game. no wonder everyone plays MEIOU now
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>>180868046
We all mistype sometimes anon
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>>180868734
actually it doesn't
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>>180868734
Just found out this meme is from the Simpsons.
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>>180862247
Do it lad. The Dual Monarchy awaits.

>>180867563
Who is it?
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>>180869345
Does 2 monarchies mean the two monarchs fuck each other?
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Am I bad or is socialist Italy in DH Kaiserreich kinda hard? It's late 1937 and my economy is finally starting to roll but Austria has like 8 times as many troops as I have just on their Italian border.
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How's my progress?
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>>180869623
Yes, and the Anglois people are the resultant child.
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>attack ottomans
>4 10000 stacks stackwiped
ah, ai
>>
Should I make a minimod for CWE that adds fidget spinner factories?
>>
I had a dream where I was invited to Paradox's office and they announced a new dlc for CK2 about adding Ming and I told them it was bad, and I told them that if they do it to make sure it doesn't kill fps like Rajas of India did, and that I didn't like it because they are making the game less and less about the crusades and I got respectfully disagreed out of the building.

It was a horrible nightmare.
>>
>>180870029
nice cheats BROTHER
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>>180870029
pretty epic if I say so meself, dont forget to vassalize lombardia and veneze
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What is the best way of getting rid of useless bureaucrats?
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>>180865381
>Get a case of Deja Vu as I get overrun with pretenders
>Burgundy declares war
>Pretenders win, bunch of shit happens
>Duke of Burgundy dies, ally Castile now has all his stuff

Did... should I reset or just carry on and try to force the onion with France now that I finally have the mission?
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>>180867153
lmaoing at your life. what do you expect from a meme mod in a meme game. also this is one of the best mods for hoi4. aka there are only 4 "good " mods for hoi4 . (kaiserreich, millenium dawn, black ice and this piece of shit
>>
if you guys could go back in time, would you fuck anne frank?
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>>180871564
I bet you don't even know where that meme comes from.
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>>180871714
no not really, i have alzheimer.
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A. Why do the Danish have so much trade power in a node where they have no provinces?
B. How do I get them out?
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>>180868734
>png
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>>180870942
Dissapear them.
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>>180870942
tax %
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>>180872090
>inflicting lossy compression on a work of pixel art
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>>180872436
you could say that about regular screenshots idiot
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>>180872436
art nowadays is all about defacing everything regular people hold dear and sacred
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>>180871816
Post bigger pictures and I might be able to tell you

They have a merchant there providing caravan power, which you auto get if you have a merchant in an inland node. On top of that, they also have the transfers from trade downstream, which gives them 20% of their province trade power in nodes that are directly up the flow of the nodes, from Lubeck, this is the North Sea, the Baltic sea, saxony, and Rheinland.

Basically, they have power from caravan and transferring from downstream
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Why is my 18th century Europe so fucking garbage?
That France-Provence border is p hot tho
>>
>>180863885
he works as a diplomat actually. for the mossad. he still does victoria 2 shit in his free time, like he's been making a mod called hpm.
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Any tips on surviving the German invasion?
Also, what types of Divs should I build, I'm thinking about building Mountain Divs because of the hills.
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Whos your favorite grand strategy youtuber? i like sometimes like to mimic strats from good players..
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>>180873126
BudgetMonk 119
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>>180871678
I would fug some 13 year old blonde girl who's very "mature" for her age and is one of the cool kids among all the peasant kids. we'd fuck and I'd marry her. I'd even get in on her teenage friend group, and we'd just sort of hang out in the streets and play dice and run around or whatever. I'd larp as a teenager because my teenage years were stolen from me. I'd become just like the weird older guy of their group, some teenage hang out groups have that guy. maybe we could run a little pickpocketing business or something.
once my wife gets older I wouldn't abandon her or anything either I'd just stop teenagerlarping and do something else.
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>>180872739
Because your actions weakened the great power in northern germany and the great power in russia.
Without those two to contain it poland/lithuania does horrid things like that.
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Question: If I have reduced the Netherlands to one state (their capitol), will I be able to choose a 'conquest' casus belli despite them having colonies?
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>>180871552
Well, I'm carrying on, got my first idea group, what should I go for? Currently rebuilding after the WotRs, so keeping myself out of trouble for now before commencing operation frog-squish.
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>>180872618
fuck Denmark
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been trying to get baselius all week now
should I just wait for an easier patch?
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>>180873108
You don't have time. Reinforce your current divs. Get them more arty, a little bit of AT. Build more forts.
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>>180872739
Take the baltic you fuck.
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>>180873126
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>>180872739
You know the drill.

>>180874306
Lithuania is still allied with Poland, and I can't afford to lose Poland as an ally since the rest of Europe basically hates my guts.
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>>180873485
I'm thinking a military idea, while quantity sounds good I'm thinking that something like offense or defence would be better in the short term for beating the French Elan.
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>>180873126
Encourge bureucrats man
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How do I pull off a good start for Belgium? I want to be unethical up in Africa. Also maybe give the Netherlands a spanking.
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>>180874363
fuck off robbie
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>>180873696
psss. here is the good stuff lad.
http://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?t=109
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>>180873126
I mean, the only good players are Florry and DDRJake. No clue why you'd ever watch anybody else for /gsg/.
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>>180874938
Except this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrOwydoUsIQ
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>>180874438
You're a pussy. Just rival Poland/Lithuania and ally the Ottomans.
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>>180874938
one is an autistic larper that only likes to blob and the other is an autistic larper that only likes to do meme runs.
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>>180874863
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>>180873126
>Watching Lets Plays
Shiggy diggy.
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>>180875135
>supporting a known animal abuser and wife beater.
shame on you,
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>>180875070
>Sweden allied with Muslims
;^)
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>>180873126
someone post young arumba
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>>180875227
Yes, The Swedes had close relations with the kebabs during their imperial wars with Russia.
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>>180875227
Sweden was actually allied with the Ottomans for a decent while under Charles XII.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skirmish_at_Bender

This event is the reason swedish actually has a turkish loan-word or two.
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>>180875214
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lads I failed my math 160 class twice.
I now have to take math 150 because if you fail a class twice, you have to retake the previous.
I'm not posting here anymore, not that I contributed much of anything besides propagating medium rare and mountain jew.
I'll be back in 6 weeks, hopefully.
unless I kms in which case post gross swiss empires in my honor
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>>180875536
Dissapointing last post.
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Meiou and taxes link, please?
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>>180875536
Which is 160? I'm in calc 2 right now and I'm really struggling. All I want is to be good at math and I can't. I try to do all the homework but I don't have time to ever fucking finish it.
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Should I make Wallonia into a puppet, or should I keep it?
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>>180874562
Aristocratic is great in the long run for the -1% decay in army tradition. You should probably stick to defensive for now tho.
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>>180872876
Good post
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>>180875536
nice blog post
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>>180875536
Nice blog, where do I Subscribe ?
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>>180855362
I didn't see. Sorry. Thanks bro
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>>180875854
it's not in your border. set it free.

or don't make borders in the first place if you're just gonna break them fuckface
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>>180873126
There is only one answer
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>>180875536
Ask your professor to have you do Clauswitzian ballistics calculation tables.
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>>180875828
>I don't have time to finish it
>posting in gsg
I can see that
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So in EU4, how you're supposed to play as Sweden if you have the Third Rome DLC enabled?

with all the past buffs and changes that benefit Denmark it feels like only way to reasonably survive the start of the game as Sweden is to luck out (see: Start over dozen times) and have start where Lithuania remains independent so you can Cheese an alliance with them to survive the now much more powerful Muscowy
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>>180876335
You'll eventually have more absolutism/discipline than them so you should be able to overpower them. As for Denmark, how are they an issue again?
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>>180874438
lmao
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Updated
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>>180876734
Weak attempt desu
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>>180876820
I'd probably put my border along the Rhine and keep everything west of that as buffer states.
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>CK2 campaign as wallachia
>Byzantine emperor turned muslim

man, fuck this
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Oops, forgot to include Denmark
>>180876927
It's a 3rd Reich run, mein freund
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>>180876734
>>180876907
Man, why is the Scandinavian flag so wank. Makes me want to not form that shit and just stay as Sweden whenever I play them.
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>can't use the word kebab to refer to t*rks on paradox plaza anymore
why?
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/patches-and-versions.996689/page-5#post-23015045
upload pls thank you
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>>180877046
Ah okay, that makes more sense I guess.
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>>180877190
>paradox plaza
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>>180876598

They're not an issue really by themselves, the new changes to Muscowy though combined with the previous changes just make the Sweden Start really unpredictable and hardly enjoyable if you ask me

its massive chain of "what ifs"

>the war with Denmark will take more time than in the past
>UNLESS you cheese the independence war by "exploiting" the starting Rebels on Gotland weakening the main Danish army...
>the now more powerful Muscowy will shallow half of Novgorod by this time

the Muscowy jumping on Novgorod much earlier (earlier than you basicly can since you're occupied with the Denmark) which depending on AI and chance leads to all kinds of unfavorable situations which are difficulty (see: hard to deal with without resorting into cheese tactics)

Especially in the event Muscowy takes up provinces bordering you, which will limit your options for early expansion drasticly and might even lead to point where you simply might not survive

>Livonia jumps on weakened Novgorod
>Preventing you from claiming Neva, Ingermanland etc without fighting them

which isn't hard either UNLESS teutonic order survives poland, then you're in for a war that will leave your exposed to the Muscowy that will destroy you since they are much stronger now


so business as usual and I'm mostly just venting since I had several really frustrating runs in row, but the Start of the game as Sweden seems overly frustrating with the Third Rome
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Anyone have EU3 infopics I can send to my friend?

I just gifted him EU3.
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Hey HPM, I'm sure this sounds like a dumb question because there's probably a good answer, but instead of trying to make the AI encourage Dixie soldiers so that the Civil War is actually a real war, why not just increase the Dixie soldier pops at the game start and maybe change the OOB so there are 1-2 brigades which will survive the separation for more than a few days?
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>>180876907
Holy shit that Lithuania
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>>180877873
Just tell him to remember to go decentralized/serfdom or go home.
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>>180875862
Got defensive, now on the second group, still waiting for a good opportunity to go after France. Would taking exploration now be good so I can colonise early?
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>>180878496
I forgot how bad EU3 was, holy shit.
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Wow, I've never had Austria ASK to join the empire; I always have to fight them for their clay
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Hey HPM, have you got an ETA on next release? I don't want get into a game and have a new release with juicy new features ruin it for me.
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>>180878694
the game knows
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>>180878496
War exhaustion is literally the most useless bonus to have.
Serfdom has it's benefits. Like with a little serfdom and max narrowminded your entire nation can cost like 30 ducats worth to stabalize.
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>>180878756
I guess the Austrians want a shot at gassing some Hungarians for breaking away
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>>180878694
Protip from a fellow gross germaniums player: release Ukraine before you accept.
Otherwise it goes to Ruthenia, where as if you release Ukraine you can use liberste country on Russia and have a huge Hohol puppet.
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>>180878496
I miss this
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this gay as fuck mayo and texas update is buggy as fuck and keeps crashing
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Found them.
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>>180879237

>>180879031
That's why you gotta use CanOmer's map.
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>>180879237
>City view as a 3D scene instead of 2D icons

old memories
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>>180879408
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>>180879578
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>>180879725
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>>180872471
And I do.
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>>180879878
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>>180880029
Last one.
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Son of a bitch.
Anyone know where I can find Can Omer's map for EU3 now?
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I need help with babies first Germany game, how much ic should I have before I start building an army? I feel like its impossible to catch up with the Soviets at this point.
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>>180881402
you fucked up, you really shouldn't be manually building IC. you should just restart desu, it doesn't look like you have very divisions so your probably fucked when you have to invade poland
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>>180881915
Would it be impossible to build a decent army in time if I stopped building ic right now? I already have 68 divisions of mostly infantry and some MOT and LARM on the way. There's still time before 1939 rolls around.
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I'm playing Shimazu rn in EU4 and just wanna know what's a good idea group to go with?
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>>180882214
I guess? usually it's better to build your units early on and upgrade as time passes since they keep experience and can still fight while being upgraded. The problem I see is that while 68 divisions is ok, your going to want more and to make more your going to need to cut production on your air force which is pretty crucial as Germany. I misspoke when I said you're fucked at invading poland, it's just that with such a low number of divisions you'll probably be streched when it comes to France and USSR
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Oh and as for EU3 mods, miscmods is nigh mandatory, look for it. It should still be around.
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Why did everyone migrate to a thread made 100 posts early?
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What should I do?
Should I fight?
Should I accept their claims?
Do I join them?
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>>180883826
If you've got the backing of the French and Perfidious Albion, could be worth fighting. Good defensive terrain in the Sudetenland.
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>>180883826
No Way!
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>>180883826
>join the axis
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>>180882215
pls
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>>180883826
Using fierimod?
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>>180883826
FUCK the krauts
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Does anyone have a link to the discord?
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>>180883826
>>180884171
>>180884258
>>180885113
Due to popular vote, the Czech and Slovak peoples have decides to fight, a plan is drawn up.
Good thing Germany doesn't actually garrison it's borders.
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>>180885747
>Operation shitting fury
>Takes vienna day 1

Germans BTFO
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>>180885747
>>180883826
use flavormod desu.
https://pastebin.com/7ZBm2K3V
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>>180885747
It's actually spelled "shitting"
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>>180885747
That's actually a really good plan. River border and secures a good VP.
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>>180886345
That doesen't matter, what does is that the G*rmans are gonna drown in my shit.
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Having issues with HOI4 Millennium Dawn More Variants, I have them both enabled but I still cannot modify certain items like Infantry supply or gear. Anyone else use these two? Am I retarded?
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>conquers Silesia
Nothin' Personnel, Empress
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>>180879237
almost keen on figuring out how to bring the city view back. pretty sure most of it is still in the files somewhere.
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GIVE US OPERATION SHITING UPDATES
t. not him
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do i play a comfy GROß NEPALIUMS game or a comfy florence game on M&T?
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Should I take Corsica as France or give it to my italian vassal?

I only ask this because I don't know if there are any specific events regarding France/Corsica that might be interesting, like some regarding Napoleon and such, otherwise it's a province that I don't want for myself due to culture and not being interested in making it a state.
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>>180887671
he shat himself
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>>180888206
tbqh you should have vasslaized genoa or some other merchant republic and give them little swathes of territory for the bonus goods produced
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>>180887028
daily reminder that frederick II was a lala prancing homo
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me on the right
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You're a kike?
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>>180887158
Probably.
You can do it, anon! Put your name out there in the modding community!
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>>180887028
REMOVE BRATWURST remove bratwurst you are worst piefke. you are the piefke idiot you are the piefke smell. return to poladn. to our hohenzollern cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the Tiergarten….ahahahaha ,Preißn we will never forgeve you. Willy rascal FUck but fuck asshole saupreiß stink prussia bismarck bismarck..raid on berlin best day of my life. take a bath of dead piefke..ahahahahahPREISZEN WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget silesia .brandenburg we kill the king , saupreiß return to your precious königsberg….hahahahaha idiot saupreiß and piefke smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE BRATWURST FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. austria+bohemia+hungary+galicia=kill preißn…we will silesia/ beethoven alive in austria, beethoven making symphony of reich . fast symphony beethoven reich. we are rich and have gold now hahahaha ha because of beethoven… you are ppoor stink piefke… you live in a barrack hahahaha, you live in a bude
beethoven alive numbr one #1 in austria ….fuck the hohenzollern ,..FUCKk ashol tsaupreiß no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur Generalstab. mozart aliv and real strong wizard kill all the saupreiß farm aminal with symphony magic now we the habsburg rule .ape of the zoo king firdiech fukc the great satan and lay cannonball this ball hatch and hohenzollern wa;s born. stupid baby form the ball give bak our silesia we will crush u lik a skull of pig. austria greattst reich!
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>>180887671
Didn't work out m8, Germany ignored me and killed Poland when I declared they just invaded from my unguarded borders. But I saved so I can try again.
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>>180889118
10/10
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Any mod that lets me change the religion of anyone I want in war? Like force conversion but I can like make a hindu nation change into catholic if I force them. Its like the one thing I wanna do in this game at this point convert the world to the one faith without having to straight up conquer it.
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>>180888437
Genoa didn't exist by then in my game, it was all Milan which I have already wiped out, I ended diplo-vassaling Lucca and I'm feeding him the italian provinces I'm not interest in but I was wondering if there were some events regarding Corsica and France as it was the birthplace of Napoleon, idk just wondering.
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>>180889631
in what game?
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>>180889730
Cant believe I didnt mention. EU4.
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>>180889631
you can vassalize and force conversion that way
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>>180889118
>REMOVE BRATWURST remove bratwurst you are worst piefke.
2/10 for not saying "you are wurst piefke"
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>>180889893
>Conquer
>Hold onto them long enough for the liberty desire to drop below 50
>Force convert
>Release
I suppose if its my best option ill live with it.
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>>180890040
I really dislike puns.
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Why do redditors love republican Spain so much? Even for communists they were niggers. Routinely burning churches down, raping nuns, and killing christians.
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>>180890701
>Routinely burning churches down, raping nuns, and killing christians.
There's your answer
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Where can I pedo CMANO
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>>180890701
ahh yes i love this meme
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>>180890951
Whats CMANO I might be able to get you what you need I actually bought these games.
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>>180891138
Command Modern Air Naval Operations
This game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaHaA8rB3g
I saw an anon posting it yesterday I think and I'm interested now.
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>>180891121
What?
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How do I edit a country's literacy
thanks
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>>180891549
edit the literacy of every individual pop
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your welcm
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>>180891736
how would i do that
i don't see literacy in the pop files
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>>180891787
save files
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>>180891910
But I don't want to change a savefile, i want to make a minimod
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>>180891249
I own that but I have played its predecessors do some digging you can find some magnets eaisly hell I found one for Command: Northern Inferno I wont post it cause im gonna make you do the leg work.
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>>180892253
I saw a torrent for CMANO but its dead, and i saw one for Northern Inferno but i don't know if it's better than CMANO or not
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>Fascists TRIGGERED
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>>180892980
>2Goy4U
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>>180892980
Im more triggered your playing HoI4.
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>>180892980
Please delete your post right now
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>>180893081
Only playing it for KR, it's really good you should try it if you haven't.

With the better AI frontline mechanics mod it's challenging enough, took me 18 months to kill fascist scum instead of 6
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>>180893208
I might consider it. This is the end of the only real game I did of HoI4. As you can see there are 4 Germanies one of which is still fasists and why the fuck is east Germany lime green in this shit game. I also like to ultra micro my troops due to playing alot of DH but I seem to get punished for doing that which is BULL.
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>>180893208
If I want to play KR I play it with DH. You know, the way it meant to be played you redditard fuck
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>>180893460
[Spoiler] I like national focus trees and KR has a lot of them [/Spoiler]
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>>180893414
I only see 3 Germanies
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>>180893414
And here I thought my plan to directly rule all of the western hemisphere was cancerous
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>>180893526
West Germany, East Germany and the black one are obvious see the OPM in Lithuanian? Thats Germany.
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>>180893621
What a fantastic game
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>>180893621
everything the light touches is germanies
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>>180893526
>austria isnt germany
fuck off östercuck
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>>180893882
That Austria of only Tirol is also fascist. Theres a very good reason that I only did this one game. The german "AI" only ever bothered to man two fronts periodically abandoning one of the fronts completely. What the fuck.
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>download Third Rome to see what it's like
>play Muscovy
>Have Russia's 1914 borders by 1620 along with Constantinople and having crippled both the Ottomemes and Ming

What the fuck is wrong with Paradox? How can there be people retarded enough to purchase this riduclous DLC?
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>>180894097
It was straight up a buff to keep russia from floundering every game. Paradox has a bad habit of supercharging a nation each DLC to insane levels for "balance" rather it be russia, ming, Prussia, PLC ect. The heads of both HoI4 and EU4 have both "left" so the next DLC for both games will be different. Heres hoping better cause even the paradrones are starting to revolt.
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>>180894307
Nah, the paradrones never revolted about the shitty quality of the games, the based slavs had the prices quadrupped and went full sacred war on Paradox, forcing them to roll back because 2ch net/gsg/ has, to this dsy, a functioning pirate archive. It's all in Russian though, so don't bother going to it.
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>>180895050
>Ruble doing poorly
>Prices increased to "reflect purchasing power"
Oh paradox.
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>>180851067
OG jewish monotheism predates zoroastrianism tho
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>>180895217
Also went up in Britain and Europe, who are both doing so extremely well due to Brexit.

To be very quite honest, it looks like they've done this for PR. Right now there are dozens of Paradrones spamming the official forum and >>>/r/paradoxplaza saying how Parakikes are a great niche company who listens to it's fans and imploring anyone and everyone who left a negative review to now buy more DLC and give multiple positive reviews.
Really makes you think.
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geheimnisnacht WHEN?
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Honestly, someone tell me how you can unironically be both a Stalinist and a trannie, I don't get it at all. Stalin sent GAYS to the gulag, imagine what he'd have done to trannies.
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>>180893414
first game of any hearts of iron ever

i think ur bad dude
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>>180895731
>Last 3 EU4 dlcs focused on one nation did little else
>Last 2 HoI4 DLC and only hoi4 dlc have focused on like 4 nations even making some of them weaker
Paradox should be focused on improving the game functions as the main pull for DLC. Modders can for the most part handle focus trees hell theve proven better at it. Paradox should focus on making EU4 feel more dynamic with trade and go back and fix colonization more. With HoI4 they should make a DLC dealing overwhelming with internal politics and external diplomacy.
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>>180896072
Im sure you can tell but I wasnt trying to conquer anything in my game I just went commie and fought the germans in the south.
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>>180896228
>didn't even take tyrol as rightful italian clay
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>>180896072
>>180896228
Heres a game were I went full RP in DH. Man was it a fun as fuck game all of Europe and Asia fell to fascism and I slowly reconquered it. I love playing democracy and liberating Europe from the commies or nazis.
>>180896317
That was the plan after Germany to start WW3 but as you can tell I took one look at the post war map threw up and quit.
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>>180896114
Or just carry on making shitty DLC and rolling in casual cash?
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>>180892980
No, anon! NO!
They just got out of their socialist shithole! Now is the time for recovery!
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>>180888485
Daily reminder that Vienna was known as the fag capital of Europe.
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Childhood is being too scared tomplay Germany because of the Steamcordplaza memers.
Adulthood is realising it's the only fun campaign.
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>>180896452
Man this picture sealed it for me. I am NEVER going to play DH again.
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>>180895050
What kind of slavs are there? Out of my friends and immediate acquaintances, there is not a SINGLE person here who buys any sort of games. Everyone pirates.
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>>180897014
Rooskies.
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>>180896802
>was known
until Berlin surpassed them, is what you're saying?
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>>180897013
Any reason why?
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>>180897131
Just look at it! It's hideous!

My self esteem is improved just by knowing that things in the world can be that ugly.
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>>180897115
Yes. Weimar was degenerate, not doubt about that. Then Third Reich saved it for a bit and today its fag capital again, considering today "Germany" is Bavarian-ran, there's no questions on why its the fag capital. Funny how now that Bavaria dominates Germany, its at its worst.
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>>180897167
I mean its basically how Europe looks today and I quite like my Russia its cute long.
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>>180868734
full map sauce?
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>>180897512
Lad. I'm talking about the UI and the map's aesthetics
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>>180897079
Yeah that's weird. Most Russians I know pirate everything, that seedy Russian site is known as such for a reason.
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>>180897623
Thats the WiF mod heres a game I did were I saved Europe as democratic China. My favorite game is were I fought nazi germany as democratic china I invaded through siberia through iran into india up through russia. It took 8 years to beat germany I didnt use any of my 40 nukes unitll germany nuked Nanjing and the kiddy gloves came off only DH game I took to the 60s.
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Lads, kind of off topic question, watching the film Zulu before I play a Zulu game in Victoria 2 Not watching for any particular reason, it's just a good film and the Zulu are doing this strange dance ceremony where the women hold short spears, and a white girl asks her fsther what they are and he says "Urgh.. a symbol of their chastity.."
What did they mean by this? Castration blade? Allegory for penetration? Weapon to stop men raping them? Circumcision tool?
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>Conquer Shendong/Southern Zhilli for them dolla dolla bills
>Printing unlimited moneys

>Suddenly all of china westernizes and balkanizes
>Suddenly I have 150000 westernized Chinese troops trying to kill me
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>>180897886
dildoes
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Is it weird that hoi3 is actually my favorite hoi game?
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>>180897954
Thanks, you little shit.
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>>180875214
>supporting a known animal abuser and wife beater
what's this meme?
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>>180898158
He's getting him confused with Arumba. Dude did a video saying he kicked the shit out of his dog out of frustration, look up his most downvoted video.
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>>180897490
The problem with Germany is that it is filled with Germans
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>>180898053
No, it's the paradox game with the best combat system. HoI3 is also my favourite one in the series.
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>>180888619
P E R M A N E N T
R E V O L U T I O N
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>>180898510
Prussia was unarguably the only good part of Germany. Every single else of them had a servile instinct but Prussia picked them up from the gutter and made an empire.
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>>180891249
This looks strangely fun.
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>>180898623
There have been many before you but you are indeed the strangest German nationalist I've come across
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>>180893414
And to think, this shitty peace treaty outcome is the result of a mod designed to fix the original, even worse peace treaties!
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>>180898548
Yeah the oob is a little bit autistic but it's only bad because how how fucking terribly the oob is organized at the start of the game. Once you've spent 30 or 40 minutes fixing paradox's retardation it makes sense.
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>>180898623
And then the Anglos sensed competition and destroyed them, and Europe, forever.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lVTOx4H8U
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>Once you've spent 30 or 40 minutes fixing paradox's retardation it makes sense.
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>>180898623
>What is the HRE
plus even before that they were btfoing romans as a loose collection of tribes so what use is an Empire really other than to pacify and domesticate the citizens
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>>180899456
t. Arminius
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>>180899456
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
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>>180899456
>>What is the HRE
A shitty collection of squabbling German "princes" who were arguing on who should give more of his wealth to a man in a funny hat who got the power he has through a fabricated document and these German "princes" just rolled with it.
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>>180899237
ebin meme xD
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R8. By far one of the most fun games I've had.
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>>180900953
your character is black
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>>180901268
That's Aryan sweetie.
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>>180901268
I've managed to keep my line black despite constantly intermarrying with Byzantines/Europeans. My grandson (future heir) is mixed (turkish ethnicity) though which means my dynasty will probably be white soon enough.
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>>180881402
Baby's fist Germany update: Poland fell in just 17 days, so far every things ahead of schedule.
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>>180898623
>Germans bullying the actual prussians who neva dindu nuffin
>"""GOOD"""
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>>180901268
Ethiopians are Christian therefore they are WHITE and BASED
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>>180892980
Not really

Amerigan fascists have awoken
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>>180900953
WE
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>>180902537
No, stop spouting fucking bullshit, you dirty nigger. Ethiopian are white because of their caucasoid skulls.
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>>180897490
When will the North, when will Saxony, when will they finally rise and try their chance at making Germany great again? South Germans were a decadent failure and plagued all Germans for centuries. West Germans are weak and servile and are pussy whipped by the French, along with plaguing Germany with HRE bullshit. East Germans tried hard but tried to hide their weakness under a mask of pretentious Crusader helmets, brought Germany to ruin, and were all too fast to turn to degeneracy and socialism - even now, the East still rules, and still destroys Germany, under the guise of their own guilt and hatred of their own people.

It only makes sense that now it's the North's time to try, does it not? I can only accept that Germany is a forsaken nation if the northern Germans, the Germans of the seas bring the nation to ruin.

>>180895961
Just have faith brother. Soon, we will get to taste beautiful Dark Eldar waifus again.

In a world of darkness, Dellana, you were the light. I still miss you.
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>>180903281
>Seduce vampire
>Die having sex 2 years later
Worth it.
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>>180903615
Of course it's worth it. It doesn't help the vampires are generally qt as fuck.
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so where is kaiserreich for hoi4 again?
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>>180880731
On the forums
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>>180903281
I wish that mod didn't have so much bloat. The thing runs like dogshit generally I find.
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>>180908310
They're supposed to be dropping an update which apparently massively improves performance. Nice if they do, but I haven't got my hopes too high.
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>>180872739
map mod?
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>>180908310
I think it ran pretty OK after the Reaper's Due update if you disable the western part of the world and the Underworld.
>>180908352
I'd imagine all their artifacts and cults are very script intensive so dropping them in favor of M&M artifacts and societies might improve performance
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>>180899456
This isn't true, at all. The Romans suffered far worse defeats at the hands of Carthage, yet they still soldiered on and eventually defeated Carthage.

The Roman Empire did not annex Germania because they were already overextended and Germania held no strategic value or resources to the Roman Empire.
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>>180909218
>The Roman Empire did not annex Germania because they were already overextended and Germania held no strategic value or resources to the Roman Empire.

This. Germania was considered wasteland as far as the Empire was concerned.
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The world in 1888.

The British have won their war against the Dutch, taking the entirety of the East Indies. The Prime Minister, Cecil Rhodes, plans for a massive Cape-Sydney-Tokyo Trade zone, which he has dubbed the Greater Pacific Co-Prosperity Sphere. Under Rhodes, the Empire-in-exile has seen a number of reforms, one of them includes the restoration of a 'working' Parliament, established in Sydney. This has seen democracy return to the Empire, at least on a local level. The Imperial Unionists still dominate via an extremely biased FPTP system. The first bill of this restored Parliament was the Anglicanization Act, which renamed many native names within Indonesia to English ones. King-Emperor Ernst Augustus II led by example, rebranding the House of Hanover to the more 'English-sounding' House of Windsor.

Meanwhile in Europe, Germany still dominates. A Dutch Bloc has been formed with the Netherlands, the English Republic and Scandinavia. The King of Sweden has even managed to acquire the Congo as his personal domain with support from the Dutch. The scramble for Africa has started as after France's defeat at the hands of Germany and the Celtic Union, they have lost a majority of their colonies to native uprisings and the Germans and Dutch are quickly moving in to put down the uprisings and put their own colonies in place.
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>>180909421
that doesn't make germania a wasteland though
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>>180909467
I wish America had more of that glorious cold land.
But then I couldn't drink and gamble until I was 21.
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>>180909218
>>180909421
It was also a "philosophical" stance that the Roman Emperors took after Augustus. The Roman Empire was seen as the Mediterranean empire, and going outside those boundaries was seen as bad. Digging in with stationary and strong border defenses and enjoying the wealth of their Empire was more important. Obviously some Emperors broke this.
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>>180909421
What, you don't like an assload of timber?
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>>180909485
Compared to what Rome had? It pretty much was. The 'Byzantine' parts of the Empire were the most profitable territories of Rome. It's only later that through crusades, Turk invasions and Greek autism that it was shat up and turned to the modern balkans.
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>>180909805
Nah. They were turned into the shitholes they are today during the reign of Justin II when Slavs migrated there, and then they were prime raiding ground for the Avars, Bulgars, Magyars etc during Eastern Roman weakness.
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>>180909908
And I'm not saying that slavs are bad. It was just a disturbance and generally bad for the overall wealth of the region.
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>>180910039
It's okay Anon nobody is going to report you to the paradox police for racism against slavs (not that you can be racist against whites anyway)
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>>180909805
>The 'Byzantine' parts of the Empire were the most profitable territories of Rome
No, they weren't. The most profitable territories of Rome was Italy itself, followed by Egypt. The byzantine parts - greece and anatolia, were as profitable as northern africa,which is a fucking desert, southern spain, southern france and the levant.
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>>180910039
>And I'm not saying that slavs are bad
No need to say it, everyone already knows slavs are bad.
>>180910108
Slavs aren't white much less people.
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>>180909908
>>180910039
Yeah I forgot to mention the slavic invasions as well, they were a factor that weakened the area.

Anyway my point is that just because a country today is rich doesn't mean it always was. Until the industrial revolution, Britain was a shithole only good for farming. Until Napoleon gave the Germans a shake-up (and Martin Luther before him), the HRE was a middle eastern tier shithole with feuding "Princes" over who can serve the funny hat man better.

>>180910160
Then explain why Justinian saw Rome and the Italia peninsula as a shithole not worth keeping once he managed to retake quite a lot of it?
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>>180910221
>Then explain why Justinian saw Rome and the Italia peninsula as a shithole not worth keeping once he managed to retake quite a lot of it?
Because it was devastated by war and looted at the time he got in power and he would have to deal with the invaders but he was too much of a spineless faggot to do it.

The time the romans went to Germania was LONG before fucking Justinian you retard.
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>>180910160
Rome was wealthy because it was the center of the Empire, not because the region itself was particularly wealthy if you catch my drift. Most Italian families had roots going back to the Republic, and had massive estates all over the Empire. Of course the wealth made it back to Italy, but it was generated outside of Italy. I'm not saying that Italy wasn't wealthy, it was. But compared to the East, it was much poorer and only comparable because, again, it was the center of the Empire and the wealthiest nobility lived there.

After the WRE was disbanded Italy quickly lost its wealth.
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How do i fight if everyone is dead?
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>>180910320
see >>180910376
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>>180910376
>not because the region itself was particularly wealthy
>Italy was wealthy because it accumulated wealth
>not because it was wealthy
That's the dumbest sentence I ever read.
Anyway, we aren't talking about Rome the city alone, we are talking about the whole fucking peninsula up to Croatia.
Also nice sources.
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>>180910376
>ut it was generated outside of Italy
>PER CAPITA INCOME
>Per capita income or average income measures the average income earned per person in a given area
>IN A GIVEN AREA
The map is saying the income is being generated locally.
>>180910463
See >>180910472
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>>180910472
I was not aware literally carrying gold coins from the East and setting them up in a coffin in Italy made Italy wealthy. Italy was less urbanized than the East.
>source
Your picture is pretty bad though. Is it tax income or the income of the people in the province? Because Italians weren't taxed in 14AD while others were. So in any direction it's skewed. It speaks much of the Easts financial prowess that despite being overtaxed by the Emperors it remained wealthy.
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>>180910621
Not to mention how much Italy was propped up by the Emperor's quite literally directly owning Egypt and siphoning large parts of its wealth and grain to Italy. Italy would have never, on it's own, would have sustained a population so big without the free grain dole. Which is (part of the reason, the sackings and such helped) why it was so less populous after the Empire fell.
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>>180897583
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mbgjh9r0f4iqanb/Maps%20for%20M%26T%202.00.00%20in%201356.zip?dl=0
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>>180910621
>>180910864
Let's not forget that for a long while the WRE and ERE were partially reunited and the center remained in Constantinople and the East, because as soon as political power shifted away from Italy, it was a fucking backwater shithole.
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>>180910621
>literally no source for any of his bullshit claims
>literally ignoring income per capita
>he thinks accumulating wealth equals income per capita
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Atlas of World Population History. p. 106:
>Seven million people was more than the Italian farmer could feed and it was only because Rome now commanded the resources of the Mediterranean basin and could bring in wheat from North Africa (particularly Tunisia and Egypt) that such a figure could be sustained. Even so the situation was a vulnerable one and when the Roman Empire got into trouble, which it did in the mid 3rd century [CE], Italy's population was among the first to register a decline. With the complete administrative collapse that followed the Barbarian invasions and the sack of Rome in the early 5th century the decline became precipitous. Finally Justinian's reconquest, which was accompanied by famine and plague on an apocalyptic scale, brought the population to a 6th-century nadir that can be estimated at around 3.5[ million].
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>>180911658
Only thing that proves is that you were talking shit from the start like I said before, Egypt and Tunisia were richer than the byzantine parts, and nothing of what you said is news. Egypt and Tunisia were the granary of the empire, and it may come as a surprise to you, but income per capita isn't measured only in wheat.
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Barely played Vicky 2 at all, should I just play with HPM or learn vanilla first?
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>>180911921
I always recommend playing vanilla first no matter the game
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It's such a pain to defeat the Allies ugh...
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>>180872298
Wouldn't that also affect useful middle class people such as officers and clerks?
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>enter /gsg/
>ctrl+f
>gex
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>leave /gsg/
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gex
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>>180909467
>a massive Cape-Sydney-Tokyo Trade zone, which he has dubbed the Greater Pacific Co-Prosperity Sphere.
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>enter thread
>/gex (masterrace vim bindings)
>2 results
>both most recent posts
disappointing
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>enter thread
>ctrl+f la plata
>0 results
>leave /gsg/
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remember to play the games you pay for
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>>180914834
>>180914917
Post more of these
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>>180909467
>House of Hanover

You mean Saxe-Coburg-Gotha
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>>180913537
alternatively you can reduce funding to bureaucrats so they get less income

of course this affects your whole country, not just one reason. so you might have to give your whole country a lot of bureaucrats before you do that. you also will obviously get more crime because no money.


whatever you do to solve the problem, you will need a bureaucratic-style decision
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>raiding a dead thread at 3:25 am to post bad memes

here, have a good meme
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>>180915497
Skopje, Cyprus and Moldova are also non-countries
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>>180880184
Only conquer France? Please, that's not hard.
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>>180915665
macedonia is a country. colombia and ecudaor are both countries yet they are pretty much the same. If bulgaria is a country, then so is macedonia.

cyprus is most definitely a country. they have a unique history which is distinctly different than those who share their toungue in greece. certainly sharing a language is not a crime against nationhood? That would make all of south america a non-country.

Moldova is also an important country to remind romanians of the russian brutality their northern brother suffered under and have now elected to suffer under.
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>>180915872
'Macedonia' is a greek region, not a country
But if you mean skopje, that is also not a country.
Bulgaria is the land of the Bulgarians, therefore it should have all and any bulgarian land(including skopje).Columbia and Ecuador are both latin-american countries, but neither is the country of all latin-americans.
Every Greek city has a unique history, doesn't change the fact that they are all Hellenic.
That's far from a valid reason.They were always romanian land and there's still a lot of romanians there.
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>>180915872
Toti moldovenii sunt prosti, nu-i mai flata atata
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>>180878620
Well, we still haven't taken any more French clay. It's been an amazingly quiet game compared to the last one, really I'm just looking for the opportunity to break the unspoken 100-year truce we've had with the French since they gave up on Maine. I'm thinking of attacking Scotland and drawing France in (which nets them less allies). Also I went for Economic ideas because I'm a noob, but I can probably drop it now if I really really should.
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>>180916201
How do u get terrain to bleed thru on colonies ???
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>>180915872
>That would make all of south america a non-country

Well,
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>>180916439
I don't know, didn't even know that was a thing.

Anyway, I need to boost my manpower in order to overtake the French, hopefully they'll go into some war and get bled.
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>>180915840
>mp_switzerland
>mp_vijayanagar
Are those old saves or do people still play?
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>>180916605
that's just a shittier version of the other one
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>>180916614
yeah it look like they were saved in the 1480s, it seems pretty old
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>>180917092
You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. That's why I'm going to annex you last.
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slow day today huh
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Natalia sprung up while I was taking South Africa from the Brits, and is in their sphere. What do I o with it? Changeowner or puppet/annex?
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>>180916614
>Screenshot name says August 2012.
>Asks if that's a recent multiplayer game in it...
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>>180918230
Can you form South Africa as a foreign power?

If so then do it. Make a boer South Africa.
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>>180919160
That's what I was wondering, looking through the events they all required me to be the UK. I have no modding skills whatsoever so I couldn't change them for the Netherlands. Might just changeowner once I border them...
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>>180919286
>can't form South Africa as Netherlands

Lmao. So just change owner and give it all of them to Natalia. They can form South Africa if the have Cape City of whatever is called.
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>>180919286
>>180919551
You can create SAF as any nations what are you retards talking about
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>>180915706
What does this even say?
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>>180919682
I was talking about the events that allow for the annexation of Natalia only work for the UK, and that there is practically no way for me to annex them without incurring infamy, and i'd rather not cheat and changeowner
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>>180916201
Well, I got a Regency and Portugal decided to attack Scotland's colonies thus dragging me into a war with them and France. Scotland is occupied but so are my possessions in France and because the Iberians are asstards they've done nothing to stop them. Spain's just tapped out and now I'm waiting to see who blinks first.
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>>180915172
In my mainland some regions have something like 170% admin efficiency just from bureaucrats.
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>you can form China as the Legation Cities in DH KR

Ayy lmao. And all you need is the Yakuza. Are there any more interesting countries to play in KR?

Are any of the chinese warlords interesting?
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>>180919682
Is it possible to release South Africa at the start of the game? I saw that they have cores, but there's no option to released them like you would release other nations. Is it tied to the decision to Organise South Africa or something?
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>>180920560
There's a 'create South Africa' decision that releases them for you
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>>180920631
Must've missed that somehow. I'm using HPM, by the way.
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>>180920809
>HPM
Is that a mod?
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>>180920631
Yeah but my original question was about what to do about Natalia, because they're in UKs sphere and I cant annex them without infamy. I was wondering whether I should just changeowner them or if there was a way to allow me to inherit their lands, through events etc... But all events are geared towards the UK
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>>180920837
Historical Project Mod, anon. Check the sticky. It's PRETTY GOOD
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>>180920993
When you create South Africa all SAF cores on your sphere/vassal you be given to SAF.
But reorganizing SAF(so it's your culture) apparently removes all un-owned cores, so not sure how that would work
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>>180921028
>sticky
Uh, the OP I mean.
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>>180921104
Alright, I'll let Natalia be until I can enact that decision, depending on what happens I'll changeowner them or whatever but in the mean time might puppet them. Thanks
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>>180915163
In my LARP, the whole Britain in exile happened because Victoria was assassinated back in 1840, so Ernst Augustus took the throne and had a civil war with the more liberal Whigs. And actually Saxe-Coburg-Gotha didn't become a thing historically until Victoria's heirs took over. She was Hanover herself.
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>>180919947
>Personal Union with Denmark

Neat.
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>>180921105
What's OP? Is that a mod?
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>>180922178
I see what's going on here.
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holy shit
now that's an empire
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Not enough people post the GoT mod.

Well I am having one interesting game right now. I started as Magnar Styr of the Thenns. As anyone else would do, I journeyed to Valyria, and came back with Euron's armor.
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>>180922384
fuck GoT and fuck the fat fuck who wrote those books
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>>180920405
pls respond
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>>180922442
That's not very nice.

Anyway, before I got that armor, I had a separate journey to Valyria, where my traveling companion found a Dragon.
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Soryuu, are you around?
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>>180922384
Only problem with the GoT mod is that once you take the throne, you pretty much have nothing to do unless you're Stannis with who you're gonna get countless civil wars to remove all the old Lannisters and their supporters who will attack you.

In actual GoT you can have the kingdom divided with claims for ages, but there's no option for dynamic war like say, Joffrey/Tommen run to Casterly Rock and continue to fight from there if Stannis or Daenerys take King's Landing.

I mean shit, in current GoT you've had Lannister-Westeros of Westerlands, Crownlands and some of Stormlands, Mereen under Dany, semi-autonomous Riverlands in a constant war and an autonomous war for ages, with Baratheon loyalists all over and Dragonstone being pretty much independent.
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>>180922542
Germany
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i want the prussia pros to fuck off
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>>180922723
True. I mostly only play a couple generations. Usually the fun dies out when all the canon characters are dead.

Now to continue, I thought it was amusing seeing Gregor Clegane become King Beyond the Wall, but this...
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>>180922906
Germany is too easy. I want a challenge. Don't say the Mad Baron because that's easy as well.

t.KRpro
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>Doing a based Hungary run
>this happens
A GOOD SIGN
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M&T 2.0 is out
Is it good or shit
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>>180923316
Maybe
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>>180923337
Is performance better at least
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>>180923086
IMO the timescale should be increased so it feels more like the show. Characters age slower, but armies still move fast because its fucking GoT and thats what always happens.

I did have a very interesting game I posted here awhile ago though. I lost the war as Stannis but Tommen allowed me to live and kept me as Lord of the Stormlands. I died with some assassination, but was resurrected and since I had resurrected by rhllor, I was immortal Stannis. War against the White Walkers happened, which was long as fuck and the North collapsed into a shithole of infighting as Ramsay tried to keep it together while also fighting the White Walkers. At one point White Walkers sieged King's Landing and killed all of Tommen's family, he had some kids with Marge + Myrcella. I ended up his heir as immortal Stannis and I shadow babied him right after. I beat the White Walkers but there was fuck all to do after, all my rivals were pretty much dead from the war or by old age.
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>>180923379
Yeah performance is better, but a broccoli runs better than old meiou.
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>>180923379
yes
I like it
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>>180923410
what's the timespan of the books now? 3 years? Then the games would be HOI tier, you'd be looking at a ten year timespan in total then
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Darkest Hour doesn't work on Windows 10 for me. Any solutions? It crashes before the menu loads.

>buy game
>doesn't work

wew
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>>180923259
From my based Hungary run. Pretty sure I killed at least 8 million non-Catholics...
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PLEASE POST MEIOU, NOW!
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>>180923601
>tfw can't torrent because I live in a police state

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

Also fuck those fags who brought down the archive.
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>>180923637
This Empire is Romanian Orthodox.
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>>180923592
Yes but it'd be better imo, fits with the GOT timetable of things going down slower, at a HOI level and GOT's mostly always been about a set of characters less than their dynasties anyway.
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>>180923601
I had a similar issue with Victoria 2. Fixed it by downloading some directx drivers among other things. I don't remember which ones exactly, but you should be able to google that shit up.
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>>180923807
It would be weird to see armies move at the speed of trains though
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One of my daughters got trained up to Formidable Fighter by 15, and another is now a Greenseer. Hopefully I'll be giving them each dragon eggs soon.
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>>180923616
>Hausa
Nigga what
Good job tho desu
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>>180923616
post map
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>>180923997
WHO RULES THE NORTH?

And more importantly, who's on the Iron Throne, Stormlands, Westerlands etc?
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>>180924029
>>180924097
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>>180923637
I BEG YOU ME LADS, POST MEIOU
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i want prussiafags to leave
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>>180924178
>wanting to play bloatmod

Have sex.
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>>180924235
This.
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Codreanu.
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>>180924178
POST IT, JUST POST IT LADS
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>>180924372
Antonescu
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>>180924372
>>180924486
Ceaușescu
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>>180924535
Tudose.
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>>180924372
>>180924486
>>180924535
>talking to a romanian
>talking about causescu
>"He did a lot of good things. Built a lot of infrastructure, made Romania a good country...but he was a dictator hahahah"

Kek. He also laughs at the many gypsies removal that happened in Romania.
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>>180924803
Causescu was unironically a good guy though. The people against him are the ones on Soros' pay. He supported natalism to grow Romania's population, he was pro traditional values. Only thing is his state had a slight atheistic bent because he wanted to be worshiped instead, which is unlike other Eastern Bloc countries including the USSR who just cooperated with the church and filled them with based KGB.
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>>180924118
Thoren Smallwood has the wall, Sansa the North, Renly the Stormlands and the Iron Isles, Edmure's kid by Slyse Florent has the Riverlands, Lancel has the Westerlands, Garlan the Reach, Harold has the Vale, Doran has Dorne, and Joffrey has the Iron Throne.

I used the Greyjoy Rebellion start date because I wanted more time but wanted to see familiar characters. My favorite part about this is that Renly "The Depraved" isn't gay, while Garlan is.

Additionally, Sansa is married to Edric, Robert found out about Cersei and executed her, while Jaime was not (Though he is blind, not sure when that happened). Gerion was killed by Robert during a trial by combat, Robert died mysteriously.

That's most of the significant events south of the wall that I can find.
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>>180924803
Less people are anti-dictator then you might think man.
I mean, openly everyone's gonna spout the whole "Democracy is the best and only way" shit. But privately, most people think there's nothing inherently wrong with dictatorships or monarchy. As long as your leader is doing shit you like, people don't care if they elected him or not
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>>180924981
Are you romanian?

Also, unification with Moldova when. Why aren't you faggets doing this already? If I were the president in Romania I would make a massive propaganda campaign to unite with the moldovans.
>>180925020
Yeah I know. I come from a third world too. Pretty sure he said the "but he was a dictator" so I couldn't realise he supported him.
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Is this redpilled?
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>>180925136
Pentru ca ne cacam pe ei de moldoveni lol
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>>180925225
what the fuck is this
some sort of bad spoken latin?

I'm not moldovan, bro.
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>>180924156
>>180923259
Still no civil war...but this is pretty cool.
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>>180925292
>vanilla
thats why theres no civil war fuckwit.
download and play HPM.
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>>180925292
>france invading the UK

WAT

How is this possible? I never saw a single game where the UK was invaded, except in a great war.
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enjoy, faglords
http://www.mediafire.com/file/itla5k1and28ofg/M%26T_v2.00.7z
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>>180925008
How'd Tywin's line die out?
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>>180925136
Not Romanian but I know plenty of the region. Anyway its largely because of corruption of "right-wing" governments who don't give a shit and just want to steal more money for themselves. Its same with FYROM and Bulgaria. Huge amount of ethnic Bulgarians there, literally no effort by the government.

In the Balkans, right-wing means Soros liberal funded groups that support the EU and unironically wanted Shillary in the White House. Left-wing means ex-communists hardline nationalists who pose as social democrats to have good contacts in the EU.
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>>180925352
I'm playing HPM though
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what are some grand strategy where I can smash the patriarchy?
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>>180925402
Vanilla. There's a strait from france to england to make it easier for england to get force on the continent despite the retarded naval AI.
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>>180925757
No, you aren't.
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>>180925757
You very clearly aren't, two sicilies has it's vanilla colors.
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why delete this art?
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>>180921794
>>180919947
Got my 4th idea group, what military ideas should I go for along Defensive?
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>>180925757
lmao, did you remember to check the mod in the launcher when you started the game?
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>tfw forming Russia in 1396
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>>180925459
Tywin died of stress at 52 and Tyrion died of drinking at 20. He also had another daughter who died of mysterious circumstances. Like I said Cersei was executed by Robert and Jaime is still in the Kingsguard.
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>>180927582
I guess if Joffrey's still King as you said, Robert never found out he was a bastard and who exactly she cucked him with. Speaking of Joffrey, how's he doing? Caused any civil wars yet?
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>>180919858
Green fellow:
>Mano pq vose ta cozinhando un sino?
Orange fellow:
>N to cozinhando, to assando
Green fellow:
>Meo deos
Orange fellow:
>q foi caraio
Green fellow:
>Voce eh um assa sino
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>>180927667
A few, but he is still about. Though when I checked on the Targs I saw Dany briefly ruled but then Joffrey won it back in another claim war.

Also,
A giant that is also strong and large for their size... I wish I had some excess weapons to give him.
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>>180854195
It's horrible and broken, don't bother
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>>180928003
Who's Joffrey married to and does he have any kids? Is he counted as Baratheon or Lannister?
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>>180926535
I'm thinking offensive, but quality covers both land and navy.
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>>180928441
Yes
Random vale girl
Baratheon
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>>180925292
Does HPM simulate the Holy Alliance?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Alliance
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>>180928735
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Alliance
yes
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>>180928735
There was a Holy Alliance decision in PDM.
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>>180928735
It doesn't.
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>>180928912
who are you quoting?
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>>180928979
This doesn't work when it's an actual quote.
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AARnon when? He said it'd be today ya pinhead.
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what are some good hoi4 mods?
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Which EU4 version is M&T2.0 supposed to work with? The latest or the second to last?
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>>180929513
Well you should always start with uninstall.exe, then once you already understood it enough move onto killing yourself
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>>180929635
It's not supposed to work at all unless you like watching paint dry.
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what country should i play and what government should i have in vcitoria 2
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any flavourmod made for Germany like the France minimod?
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>>180930908
HPM.
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>>180930627
Any government but democracy and HM's government is good.
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>>180930987
which country tho?I mean for rp'ing
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>>180931071
USA is a good start. Fascist, communist or absolute monarchy all work. Presidential and ancap dictatorships are good too.
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>>180930957
but HPM doesnt let me rename the baltics into German names
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>>180931304
>USA is a good start
I played this game for years, i'm just looking for suggestions on countries to play
already did both commie USA(where i genocided the niggers) and absolute/const. monarchy USA.I suppose fascist would be essentially the same as communist

>>180931362
hehueheuheuhe unironically funny
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>>180931732
Oh, then Austria could be good. Go full Metternich and stay an absolute monarchy Austria, don't form KuK, try and keep a balance of power in Europe without too much dismantlement and 0 blobbing from your starting borders.
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wtf my homosexuality is cured now
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How the fuck does this shit even work
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>>180931898
I literally just finished my Austria campaign where I did just that, didn't blob and didn't form anything(except i went republic instead of staying monarchy).I quit around 1900 because I got tired of fighting Italy every 5 years despite dismantling them
I was thinking of doing a communist Spain, but have no idea what my borders should be
>>180932485
pacifism
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>>180931304
non-democratic usa collapses instantly in HPM
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>>180851968
Not Afghans and azeri
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>>180932534
>pacifism
oh well thats dumb, I just like peace
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>>180932926
If you aren't the AI, its easy as shit to keep the rebels down. The states that secede start with 0 troops so you can take them down pretty easily. It collapses if its AI ran because AI is retarded and even then i've seen quite a few dictatorship USAs surviving in recent games.
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reminder im the best britain player in gsg
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shangqing tianguo or mongolia?
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>>180932887
>>180932204
so are these leftist memes or
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>>180933089
so once you annex the rebels they stop seceding?
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>>180933257
this playthrough was good i think i died to rebels though
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>>180933257
>starting as number 1
>remaining number 1
Even playing as China is harder than that.
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>>180933275
The first one is
One (male) orange+ anothe (male) orange = extinction of the orange race
One (male) orange + One (female) orange = oranges jr.

The second one is
>Orange, why are you polishing me?
>Because women are objects
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>>180933257
>>180933413
yeah if you like minmaxxing, kys

>>180933372
They only secede once, yeah. The bug of them rapidly seceding was only NNM/PDM.
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>>180933578
They stop suceeding, but you still have the stupid 'sons of liberty' events that give you infinite militancy
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>>180933550
yeah but it's ironic

or is it, how many layers
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>>180933257
>BUF
>with colonies

it's shit
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>>180909218
No, the reason was because Germany as whole had about the same population as Italy proper
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>>180933758
I think at heart they are honest
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>>180933889
t. has no idea what oswald mosley's policies were
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>>180934025
enlighten me
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Historical Project Mod or Historical Flavour Mod`?
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How come Vicky never saves the plans that I make? I even save them to a folder, but they are always gone each time I start the game up.
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>>180934212
Might be that the program doesn't have the permissions to write to the folder it's supposed to save plans in.
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>>180934295
But you see, it's an issue which has only recently surfaced. This is the first game I've played where this issue is present.
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>>180934168
multiracial policy for a multiracial empire
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I am getting into Victoria 2 again after being away for half a year. Are there any good mods I missed?
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>>180934531
vocaroo it
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anyone that speaks Spanish natively outside of Europe ought to be put into a mass grave
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>*The Github link has been removed because of the new rules of the forum*
what the fuck
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>>180934630
dead game
don't play
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>>180934168
You may of observed that nothing really happens until the old show breaks down.
In Africa another place in which our policies have been so completely and entirely justified - I once said 'triumphantly' because that's not a word to use in a situation of tragedy - but have been completely justified.
Nothing could be done.Nobody'd listen.Yards of nonsense were turned out.
Until the plain truth was proven.This time, alas very often in blood and in a horror, we stood throughout again in Africa but perfectly clear cut principles of which we were tremendously abused with every sort of foolish and disgusting lie.It was said we wante to 'persecure the blacks', that we were 'racialists' who wanted to put our people 'on top of one another', of another people.All those disgusting and foolish lies we're told about.We said, of course, as I always say: "Naturally we believe in our own race.Any man worth anything believes in his own race as he believes in his own family.But because you believe in our race or in your own family doesn't mean you want to injure other races or other families.[...]You would do them any good term that you can." And our attitude was always the same.Our first duty was to our own people, our british and european peoples, but also, in addition to that, of course we would do waht we could to help other people as well.
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>go over infamy limit as UK in 1836
>grab all the land you want
>easily defeat any GP that wars you with blockades until they white peace
>after a while the infamy resets to 24.99
>enjoy massive land
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>>180934736
Why anybody, ANYBODY still defends forum antics I will never understand

4chan has spoiled me, I always forget the rest of the internet is so fucking irredeemably shitty.
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>>180934736
in which game mod
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>>180934880
you took a lot of useless shit my man
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>>180935052
oh go play belgium and wank off for 90 years then
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>>180934979
Divergences of Darkness
>>180934910
I get you my man, I can't believe that this shithole is actually one of the better parts of the internet. Why is the internet so shitty?
>>
Cualquier uno que hable inglés debería ser colocado en tumbas comunes
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>>180934189
>Historical Flavour Mod
What?
link?
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>>180935321
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/submod-hpm-historical-flavour-mod.1028707/
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5g5nchezn5zsxwq/HPM.rar?dl=0
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>>180935183
>Divergences of Darkness
Do you want a download link or something?
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>>180935386
I have it downloaded already
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>>180935136
>blobbing

kys faggot
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Why do ginger people look so fucked up? How have they survived history? Why do we persecute them?
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what's the' hpm checksum again?
alex should really just put that in the pastebin
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>>180935592
yes
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>>180935561
>blob
>get larger population for military, access to resources ahead of your rivals, increased industry and bigger economy for a larger navy
>spread more based engl*shman across the world

whats not to love?
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>>180935610
NSUC
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>>180935705
Because you start as the #1 GP and blob as it. It's easy as fuck and anyone could do it.
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>>180935372
>can rename lithuania as Germany
seems pretty interesting, will he update it or something?
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>>180935610
MEME
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>>180935862
no
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England and Leinster led by the MacMurrough-Kavanagh family
>Serbia used to have PU over byzantium and then integrated them
>Protestant
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
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>>180935864
no it isn't, you have to fight every GP simultaneously and deal with rebels, you're clearly a babby who has never gone over the infamy limit and would get rekt if he did

stick to bel*cum* kid0
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>>180935986
>EU4

Did not click.
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>>180936093
and none of that fucking matters because of how strong UK is. an AI UK is farily retarded and never leaves the isles, but an actually competent UK player is challenged not by gameplay but by how boring it is. If your going to play UK, you play world police, not world blobbbbbbbber
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>>180936456
Either that or release everything and compete with everyone else on an equal level, but even that isn't very challenging considering even with everything released, UK stays #1 GP with just the Isles alone.
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>>180936584
Then play just England, they have a nice fascist flag.
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Is defender of the faith worth it?
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hey /b/ros what National Focus should I take as Japan?
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>>180936456
conquer the world as UK then lad if it's so easy

I'll wait

oh wait that has literally never been done in HPM because it's fucking impossible
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>>180936817
blobbing = world conquest you stupid redditor
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>>180936736
also, would it be better to have Korea as a state or a colonial province?
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>>180936924
=/= *
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>>180936662
>they have a nice fascist flag
Agreed. I still have a DoD England run where I put in the fascist flag from HPM. It looks great.

>>180936817
Nor should it be. Kill yourself or go back to r/paradoxplaza where they'll enable your blobbing.
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>>180936924
>>180937116
>says blobbing is easy
>"Of course it's not easy, the game makes it hard."
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>>180937979
It's easy, so it should be hard. What's so difficult to understand?
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>>180938112
>blobbing is easy
>ask if you can do it
>you say no
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Ming is boring to play
>>
i'm 6'5 and well built irl i'll fucking destroy you irl
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>>180938437
I have a bedouin rifle come at me bro
>>
What's so hot it's cool, but so cool it's hot?

Blobbing
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>>180938612
your mum
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G*rmany must perish
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>>180938437
fucking christ im so tired of you stupid bitch nigger *rips your head off*
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"I believe that the Jews have a mission in life. They must see to it that the nations of the world get together in one vast federation. "Union Now" is the beginning of this. Slowly but surely the world will develop into a paradise. We will have perpetual peace. And the Jews will do the most to bring about this confederation, because they have the most to gain. But how can you get peace if Germany exists? The only way to win an eternal peace is to make the punishment of waging war more horrible than war itself. Human beings are penalized for murder, aren't they? Well, Germany starts all the wars of magnitude. Let us sterilize all Germans and wars of world domination will come to an end!"

-Theodore Newman Kaufman
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What tech/how many troops would you say are necessary to invade China? The only winning strategy I've found is sphering all its vassals and then holding the line at Shendong with ~150k, but that's infeasible for those who are not the greatest of GPs.
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>>180939474
stack of 30k and just wait for them to attack

if you're russia or have a large border wtih them, just rush like 60k to their capital and get in big battles to rack up warscore
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>>180938437
>>180938532
I have a storehouse full of Martini-Henry rifles and 140 regulars who know how to use them

en garde
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>no AARnon
PLEASE
SAVE US FROM THIS SHITPOSTING HELL
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>>180936093
Not him, but it's easy to survive over 25 infamy. Fuck, I did it as an unciv. (Admittedly, the unciv in question was China, but still.) And that's without the whole "island" thing to help defend me.
>>180936817
Not sure about HPM, but I remember seeing a world conquest as greece once.
>>180939474
Lots.
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>>180939663
let's see you come at me bro with an army like that I'm sure the authorities would be thrilled
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>>180939828
There are no authorities in the zulu kingdom but us, anon
>>
>>180939929
the zulu kingdom doesn't real kid
my rifle is real though
>>
I asked this a few days ago but I just got shitposters meming on me, so I'll ask again today, what's the funnest country in Victoria 2?
>>
doesn't HPM fucks your economy if you surpass the infamy limit?
>>
hpm fucks your boypussy in person if you surpass the infamy limit
>>
>>180940489
It makes it worse, but it's still usable.
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What should I do?
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>>180940621
what if i have girlpussy
>>
What do I do now?
>>
>>180940647
If it matters that much to you, spend your mana on development until the economic base penalty is -52
>>180940752
kys
>>
>>180940678
you're xy degenerate subhuman
>>
>>180940805
Well, it's always nice to have a vassal I'd say, how is the economic base calculated anyway?
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>>180940752
Forgot pic.
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>>180940647
>>180940908
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>>180940939
Take over the Netherlands
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How much of Poland should I take?
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>>180940939
>no Limburg
Start over.
>>
>>180941060
Thanks, so I should upgrade my weakest provinces then to raise the base value?
>>
>>180941135
How do I annex their capital?
>>
>>180941159
All of it.
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Is this pretty much the best solution to German unification?
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>>180941293
That, or more dip rep. Do you have the advisor for that already?
>>
>>180939618
>>180939775
The thing is that juicy, juicy province in Southern Zhilli producing gold. It's flipped me from 2K deficits to 4K positives before.
>>
>>180941536
No, the best solution is gross Germaniums with a giant Hungary.
>>
>>180941559
Got that advisor. The whole 'economic base' thing is rubbish to be honest, just because your vast empire has a few mud huts in one corner means that some place with a few hovels will say no.
>>
>>180941536
How did you even do this?
>>
>>180941780
>>180941559
Well, I've done it, roll on intergration.

This whole thing would have been avoided if I had just waited after taking their territories after they insulted me about 50 years ago. I even sold them back their territory in order to ingratiate themselves to me but I sure as hell won't make that mistake again. Yes I'm an idiot; it's my second attempt at an ironman game.
>>
>>180941760
>wanting A*strians in your reich

no thanks

>>180941881
Conquer the German minors or cheat. I did a bit of both.
>>
9 picks who I play in HPM.
>>
>>180942001
Oman
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>>180941998
No, I mean how did you get AI Austria to form Danubiums?
>>
>>180942001
Paraguay, don't ever stop being a dictatorship, don't blob outside the Chaco, Uruguay and Entre Rios. See how far you can go.
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>>180941959
>my mission just gave me 1+ dip rep

Well, fuck.
>>
Let's just be honest, HPM is bringing redditors here. Especially now he's adding Babylon and Byzantium. That's a fact. He could stop this if he simply didn't add muh byzzie but he refuses to. Anyone remember when vickymod was kicked out for pandering to redditors?
>inb4 t. Steamcordrobbie
>>
>>180942207
But then I'll have no pops and be against massive nigger blobs with infinite immigration.
>>180942072
What can you even do as Oman?
>>
>>180942265
lmao remember when he got rid of those tags because they weren't historically accurate
what a fag
>>
>>180942265
Fuck off, Bomber.
>>
>>180942265
Vickymod was kicked out because it was a bloated mess and he only ever added meme irrelevant shit that shat up performance. HPM makes sure to keep performance going well every single time.
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>>180942505
>>180942524
the alarm has gone off
the noble historical project mod defense force awakens
godspeed
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>>180942501
>>180942505
>>180942524
I knew this would happen. Butthurt redditors defending their God. Go back to >>>/r/paradoxplaza, you fucking retards.
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Hey janny the shitposters made a new thread early please delete it

>>180941931
>>180941931
>>180941931
>>
>>180942615
um excuse me sweetie i am the poster of >>180942501 (and also >>180942614) and i would appreciate you not mistaking me for a redditor supporting every decision alexios granderos makes thank you :)
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>>180942614
>>180942615
You will never take this general steamcordplaza
>spamming the exact same post st the exact same time
>not a raid
>>
>>180942384
>But then I'll have no pops and be against massive nigger blobs with infinite immigration.
That's the point, go for healthcare reforms, fix your country and make it European tier but with Solano in charge. Wars against populated Argentina and Brazil aren't that difficult even of they're allied.
>>
>>180942736
They're options, you nigger, you don't have to play with them on, they're just for people eho don't want to play grossgeraniums fot the 6 millionth time.
>>
>>180942843
talexios grandios xd
>>
>>180942794
Even healthcare reforms can't equal immigration, plus didn't that autist unironically make interracial breeding camps?
>>
>>180942843
bich i wasn't talking to you
i was talking to the snapcordplaza boy
it goes against chan etiquette to reply to somebody for no reason you know
>>
Where do I learn how to play V2 like a pro? I want to game the system.
>>
>>180942980
>>180942953
Bomber, stop being a retard. HPM is our official mod, if you want to play Steamcordplaza mod go back to the discord.
>>
>>180942979
Yeah, how based can you be
>tfw no qt guarani gf forced upon you
>>
>>180943147
>wanting natives outside of sex slave purposes
>letting amerindians fuck white women at all
Lad, I get you're a spic and this is your fetish, but seriously, fuck off.
>>
>>180943142
prove to me that i am bomber
i triple dog dare you
>>
New Thread
>>180943229
>>180943229
>>180943229
>>180943229
>>
The Peoples' Thread!
>>180941931
>>180941931
>>180941931
>>180941931
>>180941931
>>180941931
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this thread has looked like complete garbage since i got bored of shitposting it
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>>180943502
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>>180942118
They do that if you kick the shit out of them. I see it happen a lot.
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