/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Where's dat M&T link?

>>180943239
Based

Also remember newfriends, only post in threads which have the proper infopic and mod listings, the other ones are made by shitposting groups.

Where do I learn to play V2 like a pro? Going to start by playing as Chile, how do I become a very powerful country as fast as possible? I don't care if I abuse the game mechanics, as long as no cheats or save scumming.

>>180943496
What the fuck are the paddies doing?

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Stupid question but, what does white vs yellow mean here? Some of it is all yellow some it is partly white.

>>180943514
>>180943496
>Bloatmod

>>180943672
Partido Socialista

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-27th-of-june-2017.1032543/

Thanks for the completly fucking useless DD

>>180943726
Nothing. It's just an error in localization
>>180943672
Start as a GP like Prussia or France

>>180943789
>Chile
>not playing as Anarcho-Liberals in a bourgeois dictatorship

Partido Socialista is a failed meme, libertarianism is Chile's destiny.

>>180943672
Play as gp First. Democracies are shit for learning

>>180943925
Oh I didn't know if it meant I had better chances with one color or not. Personal Unions are confusing as hell.

>>180944018
It doesn't mean shit, just means paradox fucked up the localization

>>180943808
Wew

>>180943672
>chile as a starting nation

Where's hpm?

>>180944069
Thanks bro.

>>180944225
Died in Aleppo

>>180943496
Based potatoes

Which one is better, CK2+ or HiP?

I'm planning to do a playthrough but I don't know the difference between both.

>>180944394
Wew

>>180944561
They are basically the same shit.

>>180944561
It's HIP without a doubt for me. It just expands on CK2 and adds good shit that you'll find yourself missing when you don't play with the mod. No silly bloat.

>>180944561
HIP if you like the map, CK2+ if you don't

>>180943229
Looks like the hastebin link in OP is down.
Don't suppose there's a mirror around?

>>180944561
Ck2+

>>180944673
Not him but SWMH is shit
I can't fathom why the fuck people like it

>>180944413
very nice post friend
really stimulates discussion

>>180944821
Localized names meme

>>180944729
cs.rin.ru
Search for the CK2/EU4 thread there

>>180944821
My computer can't run it so I'm just used to the vanilla map, but what's so shit about it?(besides the meme sahara/arabia retarded connections)

>>180944851
don't reply to me ir my posts do you understand

>>180944851
Fuck off

>>180944970
The provinces are nonsensical, not really more historical and inconsistent
Some places got more for no reason, some less
English names don't really turn everything in english, they fuck some historical figures
Honestly don't see why people like it

>opens both new threads
>ctrl+f gex
>17 results
>close other thread

>>180943672
Taxes at 100% and Tariffs at 20%. Promote the party that has state capitalism and make it win the elections by spamming them every year. Then build liquor factories.

>>180944959
Aha, thanks.

>>180944993
>>180945093
'no'

>>180944383
This meme will never be funny

>>180944932
That can't be it all, that shit is just one of the worst features of that mod.

So, isthe new m&t version good?

>>180945135
Should I? Is it better than promote capitalists? What about putting tarrifs at around 90% and lower taxes? Also, what about other factories? Winery? Explosives? (North has sulfur or something like that)

>>180945135
Promote party loyalty, you mean

Does anyone have the link for CK2 HiP, lads ?

>>180945382
Also, what about the budget? How much should I put into education, administration, military spending, etc?

>>180945409
Yeah, I didn't quite get this, loyalty or spamming elections? Which works best?

>>180945398
Military factories are almost useless for profitability, they are mostly for your army and will rarely turn a profit.
So explosives aren't good. Wineries can be good, so can be luxury goods. Money usually comes from consumer goods

>>180945398
Promote capis after you build a few factories

>>180945497
http://hip.zijistark.com/releases/latest.pl

>>180945497
It's always the same fucking one
http://hip.zijistark.com/releases/latest.pl

>>180945497
Yes

>>180945550
What about clerks, intellectuals, craftsmen and soldiers?

>>180945684
T-thanks.
>>180945620
>>180945665
My bad lads, I lost it.

>>180945530
>Also, what about the budget? How much should I put into education, administration, military spending, etc?
>education
During peace? Max you can. Military is good for keeping soldiers happy and promotion, but don't always need to be high. Usually education is as high as possible. Admin depends on how is bureacraut in your states, but it's not terribly important.

AARnon finishing when

>>180945530
Loyalty

>>180945707
>intellectuals
depends on how low your literacy is, but promote it to 2% in all your states, at least. If it's really low, less than 30%, promote it to 4%.

>clers
don't do it
>craftsmen
after you have a factory, promote nonstop until the factory is almost full

>soldiers
depends if you are planning to go to war

>>180945835
Never

>>180945835
Didn't he say he was coming back today?

>>180945948
>>clers
>don't do it
u wot
clerks boost RP and boost factory efficiency

>>180945835
died in aleppo

>>180946098
They also require more literacy, promote slower and are generally the same shit as craftsmen
It's not worth it

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>>180946176
>aleppo

What's the best hoi game?

HPM 1815 start when

>>180945948
I'm going to try to conquer the Andes, at least Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Colombia, Panama, Argentina and Venezuela.

I think getting a reactionary coup would be much easier than playing as a democracy. How can I do it?

Also Chile doesn't seem to have a formable nation, sad.

>>180946309
hoi1

>>180946316
Never

>>180946221
it's a meme newfag

>>180946452
So was that, you dip

>>180946359
What the fuck would Chile form?

>>180926346
>Anyone remember when vickymod was kicked out for pandering to redditors?
That never happened tho, he was kicked out for being a redditor, not because of some conspiracy that he was bringing redditors.

I wish East vs West was finished

>>180943808
>we'll be paying money for this

ebin

>>180946309
Hoi3

>>180946359
>I think getting a reactionary coup would be much easier than playing as a democracy. How can I do it?
Reactionary party in power, high militancy and luck.
Picking a democracy to start is a bad decision.

If you are going to blob so much, you will need as much soldiers as you can afford after high literacy

>>180946309
darkest hour

>>180945835
THIS

Fucking when?

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>Confederate 'tactics'

>>180946673
I wish you were dead>>18094685

>>180946309
HoI3

>>180946673
Too soon.

>>180946712

>>180946854
Wee

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>>180946673
>tfw can't play as Israel being double agent between NATO and Warsaw Pact
>tfw can't make a 4th reich
>tfw can't start as Spain and become a rich democratic state

>>180946673
I wish that Victoria 3 came out

>>180946712
Wait
How?

>>180946854
>fighting the CSA
NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING

>>180947164
Jus mod it

>>180946712
songs of the shekels falling in my bank account DLC

>>180947364
That was supposed to be the vanilla game tho

>>180947164
>Tfe can cause a nuclear apocalypse

>>180947164
>>tfw can't make a 4th reich
You can in NWO

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shit

How do I make it as Belgium? I wanna be a real boy

>>180947548
I seriously doubt they could pull it off

>>180947564
Victoria plays like shit for that kind of mods. Also pop system and politics feel not finished

>>180947682
Take the congo baby
Invest in colonies and heavy industrializaiton

>>180947564
Nwo I'd shit

>>180947291
Getting free experience for my troops, and freeing the slaves.

>>180947815
Can I fuck up those smug dutch bastards across the border?

>>180947880
That goes without saying.
Take Indonesia from them.

>>180947692
You play like shit

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This is what happens when cheeseniggers try to fight

>>180947954
As well as Zealand and Artois from the french( the majority Picard place)

>>180947968
no u

>>180947875
>Freeing niggers
Kys

>>180948098
Yes.
You get them for free if you dismantle them, but that's only late game.

>>180948072
>Switzerland
Why

>>180948072
>blobbing in Switzerland
kys

>>180948072
Post pops and land

>>180948072
>annex the swiss
for what purpose

>>180947682
>playing a non country

>>180948072
Post industry

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>>180948415
Here
>>180948364
I would if I could
>>180948459
for a true grobdeutschlandiums
>>180948347
see above

So july we get no DD
Lazy swedes

Hey AFPG made byzantium flags for the redditors, let's kick him out too

>>180948761
>roughly 1 month paid holiday each year
>almost everyone takes it at the same time
Honestly I don't know how things get done in this country during the summer.

>>180948721
>over 60% liberal voting
also
>encouraging liquor

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>>180948721
>that many poles
you know what needs to be done

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>>180948518

>>180948721
also, are you the guy that was gassing the catholics or the one who drew like 5 maps was going for third reichiums

>>180948721
>that many Catholics
Disgusting

>>180949029
>that heavy industry
based

>>180949030
Both

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>>180949030
The latter, my friend.
>>180948415
Here
>>180949124
>is a filthy heretic
kys

>>180948775
>let's kick all any good content creators
Fuck off

>>180949279
Germany is a Protestant nation Papist cuck

>>180949279
Muh dick

>>180949279
What a fucking disgusting blob

>>180949279
give croatia independence, wait until they get cores on bosnia(and annex it) then puppet them again
klein croatiums makes me sad

>>180949442
>>180949449
These two seem to contradickt one another.
>>180949535
I only have an alliance with Croatia. I intend to make them into a grobcroatiums

>>180948721
>This many papists and South german scum

WHY WHY WHY

>>180949640
>These two seem to contradickt one another.
The 'disgusting blob' is right.

>>180949758
>is also a filthy heretic
Reminder that Benedict was a Hitler Jungend

>>180949640
>These two seem to contradickt one another.
The 'muh dick' is right

>>180949535>>180949640


All slavs should be gassed

I really wish gex was here

>>180949961
>>180949442
samefag

>>180949941
Reminder that his authority is derived from a made up document and Catholicism shouldn't exist in the first place. Orthodoxy is the true faith, Protestants are fellow brothers in rebelling against the false Church.

>>180950152
gex?

>>180950168
>>180949851
>>180949449
the same person

Reminder that Europe is for Europeans
Reminder that t*rks are not white

>>180950313
>>180950168
>>180950168
Samfags

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>>180950000
Nice digits.
I tried looking for a photo of a qt croat woman to prove you wrong, but my efforts were in vain.

>>180950312
Yes, gex, it's the nickname of !!gEXp1TuUhJX, the creator of the historical improvement mod for victoria 2

>>180950176
>slav(e) religion
'no'

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>>180512085
Only a few short years after the victory parade for the Soviet-German Conflict, the International’s greatest triumph, the hero of heroes is taken away from Britain: Frederick Saxe, formerly Frederick Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, heir to the Duke of Connacht, passes away. He was only 54, and has predeceased his father, who now mourns as a sorrowful laborer in the Irish municipality which was once nominally part of his Duchy.

For all of his just fame, Frederick was never an ostentatious man. Something of the black sheep of Victoria’s grand family, Frederick had preferred a military life—and a legitimate one, too, free of the short-listing and light duties which were so common for royalty in those days—to the life of luxury and courts. It cannot be denied he held himself apart from his men, but nevertheless, more than any other royal, he understood them. And although he did not first agree with the Second Glorious Revolution, he stayed loyal.

“He stayed loyal!” Keane cries, and the mourning wails of tens of thousands fill the Worker’s Palace, the glimmering beauty that was the old Crystal Palace. “He stayed loyal despite the calls of his officers to defect, to establish a counter-revolution in the colonies, which he might well have! Despite the wealth and privilege which he should have by virtue of his name alone, and which he, willingly and against all self-interest, abrogated. For the people, and for the state he did this. And he was the only one to do this, he, our People’s Duke, though he was robbed of name and family. Thus it is that we bury him now under his right title, last of that house to be given the honor in these isles: Frederick Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Duke of Connacht.”

A week of mourning is mandated within the Commonwealth, after which it is announced that the Commonwealth’s greatest commander, Archibald Campbell, will take Saxe’s place as Commissioner of the Defense Staff, the chief of all the International’s various militaries.

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terrific game this is

>>180950649
BASED

Post music that you listen to when you get tired of the base soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QidWhGhjBlk
Based Alexandrov Ensemble

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POOST
THEEEEE
KAISERREICH
LIIIIINKKKK
for hoi4 of course

>>180950680
>labour party

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is suicide still an option

>>180950872
Yes

>>180950872
How many men can you mobilize?

>>180950872
>nigga buys a fight with the UK
>losing the naval battle
>naval invaded
What the FUCK were you expecting? Nigger just got ANGLO'ED
>>180950998
It says on the top. 12. He's fucked.

>>180950649
FUCKING BASED

>>180950782
my nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loSjUgGvhy4

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>Germany
I was so fucking close, barely 3 provinces to go.
>>180951063
See >>180950680
They invaded while they were in a fucking battle.

>>180950649
>Frederick Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, heir to the Duke of Connacht,
Did he leave behind a son/heir?

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Alright, now that all these hours building up this irredeemable land have proven to be in vain, what should I play now?

>>180950782
>>180951284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk2hKouTW8Y

>>180951309
Nigger they clearly had the fucking upperhand and it wouldn't change a thing, they would still sink your navy and invade you.
>>180951528
Stop being a fag, don't quit because you lost a war.

>>180947164
>start as Spain and become a rich democratic state
It's not a fantasy game

>>180950397
>>180950000

the digits have spoken
GAS THEM

>>180951591
Are you retarded, once you siege all British owned South African cores you get a decision to force the British out of the Cape.

>>180950649
wololo

>>180951528
>being this shit
I've been able to get the cape from the uk in 1850

>>180951848
That sounds retarded as fuck.
>UK and Germany giving up the cape for some bitch ass small power they can easily fuck over, like they actually did

>>180951386
Frederick? Yes, he did, Charles. He'll serve in the military briefly in the future under the name Windsor. He's almost as skilled as Archibald Campbell is.

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>>180950649
Keane’s government had been preparing arms manufactories to support the Commonwealth’s new mechanization program prior to moving forward with the plan, for fear that the costs would be exorbitant (or that global capital could block supplies) if the Commonwealth did not produce its own materiel. This delay was the reason army reform had not yet taken place, despite Attlee’s long haranguing of the Principal Secretary, and the death of Frederick only exacerbated the issue, although by 1917 the last tank facilities and oil refineries were almost complete and mechanization close to reality.

That is, until that grim morn. Cold, dull, and wet, with temperatures barely cresting 9° C in the midst of summer, the day was already promising to be a poor one; it soon grew much, much worse. Exiting his “Model Keane” public vehicle, the Principal Secretary was crossing to courtyard to enter Parliament when he was intercepted by what seemed a sympathetic figure. Never one to bother with security, Keane waved his guards off to hear the man’s petition… when he was shot six full times, close-range, with a French Modèle 1892 revolver. Although the gunman took cyanide before he could be apprehended, he was identified as Georges Ladoux, a French officer who had crossed to Britain over a year before under pretense of defection.

Keane is pronounced dead on the scene, and the Commonwealth descends into pandemonium. Within minutes of the successful assassination, carefully-timed counterrevolutionary risings take place in the conservative strongholds of Dublin and Edinburgh, while reformist youths rise in Oxford and Cambridge, aligning themselves to the reaction. A few divisions defect, and the reactionary militia attempt to rush Westminster to capture the Worker’s Parliament.

It is in this environment of rebellion and confusion that Marshal Archibald Campbell, leader of the International’s armies, takes temporary control of the state.

about play play DH Kaiserreich for the first time... I like to play countries that start out small or weak but have potential to become one of the big dogs, any recommendations?

>>180952379
DH is shit, play HoI3

>>180952275
can't back down now I'll look a clown now

>>180952379
one of the Italys

>>180952410
T.micro management pro

>>180952639
t. attention span of a kid

Okay guys, I'm currently adding more names to Vicky's list of Commerce Raiders for Germany.

What are some new names I should use?
Please use serious names

>>180952410
HoI3 is shit, play goy4

>>180952670
>why yes I do like taking 10 hours to take a province in the eastern front

>>180952379
depends on what you mean by "small and weak" Pretty much all of the entente fits the bill since they're trying to reclaim their homelands back in europe, so you have colonial holdings like Canada or Africa but european-tier tech teams and a decent amount of IC to work with.

Any tips of playing HOI4 with 0 military factories and only 1 civilian factory (tied down with toasters)

I wanna try an Axis Israel run for shits and giggles but I cant do jack shit without factories.

>>180952831
>being this bad

>>180953139
>implying there aren't too many provinces

>>180953275
>being THIS bad
>not understanding the need for space for manuever

>dating a girl for a long time
>finally sex time
>she asks me to go down on her
>"sorry, i don't want to lick your used up cunt"
>she fucking starts crying, dresses up and leaves

Fuck yoy /gsg/ this isn't what you promised me?!

>>180953359
>space to manevur
Wew yes I'm sure that that space is totally necessary
>>180953370
FONT

>>180953370
Take the Otakupill

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>>180952275
Citing the need for “security at home and punishment abroad for the murder of our beloved Principal Secretary,” Campbell issues martial law throughout the entirety of the British Isles; the rebellion at home is rapidly and ruthlessly eliminated, with summary extrajudicial justice the norm rather than the exception. After just a few short days of resistance the fighting is over, and the eyes of Campbell, and of all loyal Britons, necessarily turn to France, the instigator of their misery.

Standing over the body of Keane in the Crystal Palace, as Keane had done for Frederick Saxe just over a year before, Campbell issues a passionate plea for just and united fury. “They have taken from us not only the head of our government, but the head of all communist governments, the head of the International, the rudder of the internationalist movement itself! Augustus Henry Keane, the Principal Secretary of the Worker’s Commonwealth, the instigator of the Second Glorious Revolution and the captain who guided us through the storm of the German-Soviet War, lies before me here, now, shot dead by treachery. Treachery of a government whose people struggled to extract themselves from the clutches of global capital and have, sadly, failed. Treachery of a government whose people, whose elite, have always sought our destruction, and seek it all the more now that we threaten not merely their lives but their pocket-books!

But they do not know our strength. They do not know what they have done. As the new Principal Secretary of the Worker’s Commonwealth, and as commander the International, I will not rest until the men responsible for the Great Captain’s death have been brought to vicious, violent justice, and the agony of capital which wracks France is permanently swept away from its beautiful shores. We will fight—the International will fight!—and will die if necessary, to preserve the honor of the British people and the memory of Captain Keane!”

>>180953370
a: why would you ask some internet virgins for sex advice
n: honestly, what did you expect?

>>180950649
FINALLY

>>180953517
>Wew yes I'm sure that that space is totally necessary
Yes it is, otherwise you end with shit like DH
Doomstacking

>>180953546
What mod modfies your flag to show them fully

>>180953642
Have you tried gitting gud?

>>180953670
Big Square Frames, it's in AFPG's pastebin.

>>180953765
Arigatou AARnon-sama

>>180952275
wtf i love french people now

>>180953370
>falling for the vaginal Jew
>not having a qt3.14 feminine bf
Lad I....

>>180953736
lad dh is based around doomstacking, you should git gud and play a game where you can actually maneuver

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>>180948721
>14% poles
Lad...

>>180953370
good job anon
eating pussy is the lowest of the low

>>180953905
traps R gay

>>180953938
>tfw I do want to play hoi3 but I'm to dumb to even play DH

>>180954132
>he thinks I meant just traps
Hehehehe

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>>180953546
From the start, the war was about security as much as punishment. Although in the earliest days Campbell shouted the necessity of destroying the French state, as time passed he gradually slid back to a more traditionally internationalist position of merely installing a loyal government in power.

This vacillation is but the first of many problems which the people would soon discover about Campbell.

The fact of the matter is simply that Campbell was never intended to select Keane. None in the International wanted the unenviable task of broaching succession with the leader, who for his part had seemed to think it would have been as simple a matter as Parliament electing a new member. But with the state increasingly centralized around a single figure, with propaganda potential and political power embodied in a single figure, it was never going to be as simple a process as that. The Worker’s Cabinet, far closer to the circles of power than the Parliament, was the more likely body to select a successor, but even that was not guaranteed.

And this uncertainty is what allowed Campbell—unversed in political matters and a gruff speaker at best, although ambitious—to seize power, for what Campbell did have was undeniable skill… and the formal command of all International armies. When Keane died, it was a simple affair for him to swiftly step forward as the guiding force for the International in putting down the counte-revolution, and when martial law was lifted he simply never left, appointing himself Principal Secretary on the basis of the “necessary expansion of the International which we need to undertake.” Campbell, in other words, was to lead simply by virtue of his being a warrior.

Although politicians who had been more enamored with the choice of Hardie as successor quietly whisper about “generals installing consuls,” there is nothing they can do. Campbell is, after all, the head of the entire International’s military forces.

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Where should I go from here, /gsg/?

>>180954897
Play hpm

>>180955007
That's HPM

>>180954897
Indonesia

>>180955040
Oh lol sorry I'm used to shogunate colours take Alaska and some of Siberia desu as well as everything in Oceania

>>180954897
>>180955040
>>180955234
I fucking hate how you switch to that gay ass magenta and change your name to just Japan once you lose absolute monarchy status

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Post comfy Americas

>>180955442
>socialists
>comfy

brb vomiting

>>180955134
>>180955234
Should I go above infamy limit?

>>180955660
Yes
>>180955531
Not based

>>180955442
>socialists
>importing liquor
What the fuck are you doing?

>>180955442
Post lands and pop

>>180955881
a-at least I have good pops right?

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>>180955984
Oy Vey

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>>180954739
Some of these anti-Campbell plotters in the Worker’s Parliament hope that poor performance by the Commonwealth’s armies—which Campbell, in his lust for revenge against the French, had refused to wait to reform—will force the unpolitic leader from power, but their dreams are soon quashed. Leaving Major General Francis Grenfell in command of several divisions stationed in London (ostensibly to guard against the “still brewing counter-revolution,” but quite clearly intended to intimidate Parliament), Campbell leads the Commonwealth’s armies across the narrow channel to support French and Italian armies already furiously fighting in France.

Within a month the north of France has largely been overrun by the Commonwealth forces, which one of the German Red Army’s generals notes “fight with a ferocity I have never before seen, even in the depths of the Soviet war. I have seen ten men rush a machine-gun nest, nine of them dying in the process, just to slaughter the French inside, and saw the tenth afterwards fall to his knees and beg that his deeds were good enough for his friends, and for the deceased ‘Great Captain,’ Principal Secretary Keane.”

This self-sacrifice and righteous fury is epitomized in the siege of Paris, where Campbell’s forces perform exceptionally. Using point-support artillery fire permitted by airplanes equipped with wireless transceivers, long-range artillery deployment of smokescreens, and intentional building destruction to provide street cover, Campbell practically writes the book on modern urban warfare during the month-long Battle of Paris, and completely routs Baulanger, the Second Republic’s top defensive mind, in the process. And all this with an army that is, by modern standards, outdated!

The victory at Paris seals the matter in the eyes of most Britons; why should they do anything but cheer that such a great commander is now also the leader of their nation?

Is there a way to prevent soldier POPs from becoming rebels?

>>180956484
yfw Campbell is the British version of Mark Anthony

>>180955442
>1901
>Literacy 97%
>Isn't throwing up more cash than what he knows what to do with
failure

>>180956508
Appoint them to generals with high reliability

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>>180955881
>>180956821
it gets worse

Why do we never see any AnCap runs

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>>180957237
>only 8.9% Germans
>5.5% Jews

>>180957237
>Voting
>Allowed
MEIN SIDES

>>180957426
>wanting g*rms at all

>>180957571
>plays as Krauts in denial, on rightful German lands
>doesn't want actual Germans

>>180954739
todays postings have been pretty exciting my dude

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>>180956484
Although Parliamentarians fear the collapse of the Commonwealth into a dictatorship of the military following the Battle of Paris, the propaganda ministry runs with the Principal Secretary’s great victory and utilizes it to strengthen the regime and international communism both, in the process legitimating Campbell as Keane’s legitimate successor. In him the International’s military and its political arm are both united, making Campbell something of a leader and commander of armies (both his own and his puppets’) both, a figure with only one real comparison: Napoleon. To the British, the comparison could not be any more disquieting.

But, without the ability to resist Campbell and the mighty trans-national military complex which supports his new claim to governance, there is little that Parliament can do but continue to run the nation as best it can and to hope that Campbell will not abuse the power which he has won for himself. Already his willful seizure of the German military for this operation has alienated Liebknecht and Luxembourg, although the war against the French is met with hearty support from Mussolini in Italy. Only the universal respect for Keane and shared fury over his needless death keeps the International united and on the offensive.

With the destruction of the French fleet off the coast of Bordeaux by the Lion of the Seas, the government of Marie Armand Patrice de MacMahon, Duc de Magenta, finally has no chance of fleeing overseas. After leading France for almost twenty years and approaching the status of a dictator himself, MacMahon is now forced to run for his life in his own nation. Fearful of his inevitable execution at the hands of the British over his order to assassinate Keane and doubtful about the prospects of reaching the safety of the Pyrenees, MacMahon instead rushes toward German lines, hopeful that the more passive Liebknecht, already frustrated with the Commonwealth, will not turn him over.

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Should I let the Swedes form Scandinavia?

Is there any way to copy the trail of tears event so I can move all South Germans in my country to Madagascar?

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>>180958259

>>180958345
Playing as Prussia-formed Germany, I really don't want any Cathocucks in my country.

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>>180958451
Hello heretic

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>>180955442
>1826
>owns most of America
feels good man

>>180958207
Help them form it, then puppet them right after.

>>180943229

>>180941931
which of these is the thread

>>180958207
no you should pet denmark

>>180954739
FUCK CAMPBELL
BRING BACK KEANE
FUCKKKKK

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>>180958070
By late January, with MacMahon having fled, it is clear that the present French government is over. The curious circumstances of “a conservative, monarchist government ruling a socialist republic” (for the Second Republic was established following the socialist uprising which overturned the last Bourbon monarch of France, Louis Philippe II, and had a heavily socialistic constitution) has now passed into the annals of history, and it is for Campbell’s government to pick up the pieces.

First comes the matter of MacMahon, who was foolish in the extreme to assume that the Germans would not turn him over. Loyal to Keane as they had always been, and detesting the noble Duc de Magenta, Liebknecht and Luxembourg give MacMahon to Campbell immediately, who encourages a media circus in Paris when he publicly tries the Duc in front of a crowd of hundreds of thousands. Eventually he is (naturally) found guilty, stripped of his titles, his family executed and beheaded before him, and finally, in a gruesome recreation of French Revolutionary violence, the heads of the MacMahon house are paraded about on pikes through the streets. The barbarity is stunning to the International, but how might they resist? No measures to do so were ever established.

Following the MacMahons’ death, the French communist Pierre Semard is established as President of the Third French Republic (this time with a communistic “constitution”) and soon begins executing mass purges of reactionaries which had accrued in France following the long presidency of MacMahon. In an unexpected and unprecedented move, however, the war with France does not simply conclude with the establishment of a new communist government; Campbell has changed his mind yet again, and has decided that France must pay further reparations. The move is decried by communists all over the International, but Campbell orders dissenters silenced and publications carrying their words censored as a “matter of security.”

>>180959242
>supporting (((internationalism)))

kys

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BELIEVABLE WORLDS

Andalusia doesn't even exist in Iberia anymore, their capital is in Eriksfjord.

>>180959438
keane was fucking great
you take that back right now

>>180959512
Well, why don't you go take care of that problem?

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Oh no, the muslims found the annexing cheat in the console

>>180943672
Make militancy rise as much as you can (protip: declare wars on fags that can't fight back and never accept peace offers) until you can pass social reforms. Then pass the reforms that improve the education system.

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How do I reduce my population's consciousness? Considering abandoning this playthrough, I was eventually beaten by endless hordes of militant socialists. I became a republic and lost all my allies, then the endless hordes of communists followed up and Austria Hungary used the opportunity to take Istria.

Also all of my own armies joined the rebels so I didn't stand a chance.

>>180958259
Last I checked it doesn't move them it lowers it by a percentage and raises the percent Oklahoma

>>180960460
I have had Italy games when there are more communists than my population

Which EU4 version is M&T2.0 supposed to work with? I'm getting crashes with the latest one.

>>180956906
I meant something like modding out the possibility of them being rebels

>>180960460
is that japan in Montenegro?

why does Persia look so fuckhuge in CK2?

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>>180959360
Campbell declares a council of himself, Field Marshal Lester Haig, Liebknecht, Mussolini, and Semard to decide the nature of the French surrender. With only Semard and Liebknecht arguing for a position of “internationalist peace with honor, without territorial aggrandizement” (Liebknecht from ideology, Semard from self-interest), the place of two British men on the council, as well as the pro-war national-socialist Mussolini, helps to ensure that the British get they want out of the deal.

In Europe France is left mostly intact, although Savoie is ceded to Italy on the grounds that the “cession of territory will help to engender respect and loyalty to the state on the part of the people of Italy, who thus far have resisted proletarianization efforts.” While this is at least partly true, the refusal to grant Germany Alsace-Lorraine is a clear slap in the face over Liebknecht and Luxembourg’s quite vocal anti-war stances; although they would have undoubtedly refused the territory, Campbell’s decision to avoid even offering it is a snub which causes a break between the German and Commonwealth communist parties, although the German Nationale Volksarmee at least formally remains under the control of Campbell himself, in his capacity as Commissioner of the Defense Staff.

Yet Liebknecht’s decision to walk out of the talks only strengthens Campbell’s hand, as he is now able to enforce what he truly wants on France without any meaningful resistance: radical decolonization, to the Commonwealth’s benefit.

>>180960943
Woah mama

>>180960918
sure

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>>180959835
I'm in bed with the Turk

>>180960943
>>180961037
Yes, they were sphered by Russia early in the game. Japan and Russia went to war, so for some reason Japan puts an army in Montenegro

>>180961110
Why would you do this?

>>180960993
BASED

can we get a new flag now

Should I just hold off on starting any HPM games until the next update?

>>180961151
OH HERRO THER RUSSA

What's the event that lowers your infamy back to 25 in HPM again?

>>180961354
No?Unless you plan on playing China
You can finish a campaign in 2-4 days anyway

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>>180961354
forgot qt

>>180961331
I thought about it for a long time, anon, but in the end I decided against it. It was Keane's government that chose the flag that stands, and part of Campbell's character is that, even if he's a bit of a bumbler when it comes to communism and really is more of a nationalist than anything, the man did really love Keane. He wouldn't change the flag from the one chosen by his predecessor.

>>180950836
bls :DDD

>>180961716
I guess there's also the fact that Stalin didn't put the Russian flag back on.

>>180950836
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/patches-and-versions.996689/page-5#post-23015045

>>180960993
I have to study now so I will (you) you and say that I shall read these later

>>180961909
no
i need one for the pirates
yes i f5 this shithole all the time, someone post it already

>>180961484
Is it likely to be backwards compatible with old saves? Is China really the only thing he will change?

>>180962048
have you checked the russians

>>180962062
No and no
But fixing
China is the biggest change in terms of gameplay, as far as I know

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>>180960993
“In what can only be called an unbecoming fit of nationalist fervor, Campbell made the decision to punish the French state rather than simply punishing the prior government. Seeing the French as the ‘perennial enemy of the British’ and viewing their dominance in ‘zones which are properly British in interest and control’ a threat, Campbell decided to force major decolonization upon them within Africa and Southeast Asia.

“Although France was permitted to keep Algiers and even to hold it as a full Department, the Senegal and Ivory Coast were to be federated under her, and vast tracts of land in Southeast Asia were ceded to the Commonwealth-aligned governments of the Thai and Vietnamese People’s Republics, although France was permitted to retain a federated Cambodian republic under her control.

“The problems with Campbell’s thinking can easily be identified simply from his typical verbiage: ‘British’ interests rather than ‘Commonwealth’ interests. Although a skilled field commander, Campbell was never a politician, nor was a natural communist. Relatively poorly educated as he was, having joined the army before Arthur Henderson’s election and never having worked as a laborer or having read Marx closely, Campbell was predisposed to antiquated, pre-Revolutionary conceptions of nationality and rivalry which internationalist doctrine was meant to have stamped out; put another way, Campbell could mimic communistic justifications for his actions, but undertook them from within a behavioral matrix which was essentially pre-Revolutionary. The tendency for Campbell to fall back on these antiquated concepts informed his entire Secretariat, and would result in the disaster that was Red Dawn.”

-Kershaw, “Campbell (vol. 2): Superiority,” International Academic Press, 1998.

>>180962174
thats the idea
be right back thanks

>>180962174
I don't think they have it yet
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=72319&hilit=hearts+of+iron+iv&start=1470

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So I have annexed all of pre-westernized Japan as Germany. Is there any way to release them as a puppet without them eventually GP'ing themselves free? What provinces do I have to keep for their military and industrial scores low enough for permanent secondary power?

>>180962868
Either keep them all annexed or give independence to united Japan.

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>>180962868
>So I have annexed all of pre-westernized Japan as Germany

So, american """cultured""" POPS won't ever leave the Americas?Where do I change that?

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>>180962369
>disaster that was red dawn
oh fuck
CAMPBELL WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO AND RUIN IT

>>180962369
>“Although France was permitted to keep Algiers
Why
Fuck the frogs
>>180962868
>blobbing

Anybody got a download link for hoi4 kaiserreich v0.4.7?
please?
pretty please?

>>180963262
buy dh and play it on there instead

>>180963092
>wanting communism

>>180963229
It's not blobbing, just colonialism

>>180963092
>CAMPBELL WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO AND RUIN IT
The ruining hasn't even begun yet, anon.

It will take years of mismanagement to get there.

>>180963229
>Why
Because I didn't want to weaken the French too much, and Algiers was considered integral to the government. I also left them with Guyana.

>>180963643
bring back keane

My name is Pavlos
I am Hellenic
Please clap

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>>180962369
Upon returning to Britain, Campbell is met by cheering crowds, all organized by the propaganda ministry. After the raucous crowds are passed and the Principal Secretary returns to Downing Street, however, he is informed in no uncertain terms that the Commonwealth is in crisis, and that those crowds were nothing but show.

The last war’s cost was astronomical, and thanks to Campbell’s demands that naval base expansion “be undertaken with all speed” simultaneous with the war, the entire treasury surplus has vanished. What’s worse, the government has actually fallen into debt. Forced to quietly cease paying all unemployment and pension benefits in order to utilize that money to pay the deficit (to avoid giving the impression that it is possible for a communist state to even become indebted like a “capitalist cesspit”), the Principal Secretary’s ministers urge that an immediate restructuring of state finances is necessary to ensure that the government will recoup the resources necessary to continue carrying through with present plans for industrial expansion, which require up to £1 million per year to maintain.

Campbell’s solution to this issue is “preemptive army reform,” which is nothing less than the dismissal of fully one-half of the Commonwealth’s active duty personnel. Although this does recoup funds, it also makes the Commonwealth appear weak to the remainder of the International.

It is in this environment that the DDR begins to stir once again. Having removed Liebknecht in the 1918 elections for his weakness in negotiations, the new General Secretary, Ernst Thälmann, is a national-socialist in a similar vein to Mussolini. He reignites the German state’s hostile relationship with the Soviets over the trivial matter of the autonomy of the Astrakhan Oblast, and although Campbell is able to defuse the situation with threats of war, the election of a national-socialist, and the continued hostility of Thälmann and Trotsky, bodes ill for communist unity.

>>180958070
>Luxembourg is still alive
WTF I love aaranon more now

>>180963784
Keane is dead and buried, anon. You don't come back from six point-blank shots with a Modèle 1892. The government is Campbell's now.

>>180964340
How is America doing?

>>180964383
Ridiculously well. Top industry in the world, huge POP counts that have even places like Nevada with about 50,000 POPs per province, a massive Dreadnaught navy and 246 active brigades with the ability to mobilize 600 more. What's more, support for communism in America is only 1.79%, among the lowest in the world.

They've been getting powered up by people fleeing communism for decades now, and it's really starting to show. Their education is suffering because of it (because they don't have Biologism yet), and it's only at about 90%, but their industrial and military capacities are huge as a result.

>>180964843
>real Europeans fleeing the communist hellhole that Europe has become to make the US stronger
LET FREEDOM RING

>>180963072
Change overseas to yes. I forget what file it's in. Maybe cultures.txt

>>180962237
HPM said old saves aren't compatible with the latest version but I tried it anyway and it works fine lmao

>>180962425
>>180962048
the ruskies have 4.6 which is the patch that fixed major CTD issues

4.7 came out today and was pretty small

>>180965242
yeah found it minute ago, how ruskies are so based

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>>180963810
Not only does the “army reform” do little more than make the Commonwealth look weak, it does not even meaningfully resolve her economic difficulties, for Campbell still demands full naval base expansions. While he does issue a state-sponsored plan for highways throughout the Commonwealth in early 1920 which puts millions of unemployed men and women to work, what laboring peoples will later refer to as the “bleak times” of the Campbell Secretariat have begun. With all funds being devoted to military or potentially military purposes, and with social welfare still “suspended in the interests of national security,” by 1920 the situation is clear: the Commonwealth has well and truly slipped into a dictatorship of the military. Although the Worker’s Parliament still meets, even the nominal authority which it held under Keane is gone, replaced by total loyalty, through fear, to Campbell.

Yet if the Parliament is silent, the people are not. Enraged by the removal of their benefits, thousands take to the streets despite the risks. “The government expects that we should work, and from the money acquired gain all the necessary elements of life, yet this only after we have paid exorbitant taxes and received nothing in return,” one charismatic protester named Oswald shouts to a growing crowd at Trafalgar Square. “That is not communism, my friends; it is not even socialism. It is capitalism! We have returned to where we stood before, to a time when the power of money, and money alone, rules the actions of the elite, who now once again take from us everything, and give to us nothing!”

Reports of unrest all over the nation prompts Campbell to devote a small amount of resources to a state-owned corporation called the BBC, a radio network intended to broadcast pro-Party and pro-military messages intended to calm the people about the current situation. For the time being it is successful, but when it inevitably fails, the army will be present to take over the task.

>>180965682
Fascist Britan?

>>180965682
>Enraged by the removal of their benefits
hahahahaha

>>180965682
>systematic extermination
How do I get this? Is is only for Britain?

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>>180965682
>one charismatic protestor named Oswald

>>180965986
Only anglo countries like UK, Australia, USA...

>>180965682
MAXIMISTS TAKE POWER

>>180960460
Are you by chance playing unpatched vanilla?

>>180966362
That's pretty dumb, thanks for filling me in.

>>180966405
This is HPM with all DLC, all patches. I won my second great war then it all went to shit

>>180965986
It's any nation with an extreme ideology after Rhetoric of Hate is discovered. Absolute monarchy, communist dictatorship and fascist dictatorship can do it, I'm not sure if presidential dictatorships and bourgeois dictatorships can, but I believe so.

>>180965845
>>180966372
You anon will need to wait to see how it all pans out.

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>>180943229
>perfect borders don't exi-

>>180967085
Thanks, I've only got about 50h in the game so I hadn't come across it yet

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>>180967104
kek

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>Had a 0/5/1 hier
>Current ruler is getting old
>At 72 the heir dies and I now have a 3/6/4

>>180967085
i'm ready for the union of britain

>>180967408
balls are touching

What is the minimum funding my Victoria 2 ships need to not disintegrate? The lowest seems to be 35 % but sometimes, seemingly at random, I have to increase it for no apparent reason.

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>>180965682
Although Campbell is not an internationalist in the same sense that Keane was—ideologically driven with a clear view of what the future should be—the Principal Secretary nevertheless idolized Keane, and for all of his faults Campbell desires to emulate his predecessor’s internationalism. The problem is merely that Campbell does not have the strong, loyal state apparatus under him which Keane did, and his repressive rule, backed by the military, discourages the more free exchange of ideas which existed during Keane’s time. Campbell simply does not know how to perform internationalism, as was exemplified during the French debacle, and is too proud to allow anyone else to assist him in his decision-making. The Worker’s Cabinet has been abolished, and Parliament has become such a limp body that even the few dissidents within it, like Attlee, Hardie, and Mosley, can be safely ignored.

Eventually, however, there had to be a performance of internationalism. After two years without any benefits paid out by the government, with intense military and police repression (Scotland Yard now represents terror in the minds of Britons; tens of thousands have gone “missing” on their account) and with taxation still overwhelming many workers due to Campbell’s requirement that “a store of money be acquired to offset the major costs of armed forces reform,” the people have been bled dry of both wealth and hope in the bleak years. There must, his closest military advisers tell him, be something to show for this, some glimmer of Keanesian internationalism which might help bolster what they dance around telling him is, in reality, the rapidly collapsing image of his Secretariat.

With these warnings in mind, Campbell thus decides that the time is indeed ripe for another conflict to extend communism abroad, and begins moving the International to strike against the Dutch and their Austro-Hungarian allies, the last real capitalist powers in Europe.

>>180958687
Show me your horse factories

>>180963797
*claps*
Is this memes?

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>Spain is administered by Spain
woah

Thinking about doing an Oman game in V2, what should be my goals?

>>180967408
Can you invade the brits without passage through america? How does that even work?

>>180968083
>Communist government bleeds their subjects dry of money and hope

More news at 11

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>>180968083
The problem with Secretary Campbell’s timing is, of course, that the Worker’s Army of the Commonwealth is not yet prepared for war. With industrial development suspended under the Campbell ministry, industrial production for industrial and military purposes has slumped; the Nigerian model K-12 tank is still the most highly produced on the market, with the Commonwealth-manufactured Haig 313 lagging behind, and similar tales can be told about oil and fuel production. Even if the Commonwealth manufactures the majority of the world’s military gear for all other purposes, the lack of goods necessary for true mechanization slows the entire process; in short, the WAC is not yet ready to fight.

And neither does it seem that the militaries of the International are particularly ready themselves. Thälmann’s Nationale Volksarmee is required to put down a mass rising for political rights not long after Campbell issues the orders to prepare for war with the Dutch and Austro-Hungarians, and the Soviet Red Army, disgusted as Trotsky is with Campbell’s leadership, actually refuses to participate in the engagement. The refusal is entirely illegal, but everyone knows that the Commonwealth simply does not have the men to enforce unity in the International any longer, and Campbell permits Trotsky’s government to refuse aid, a de facto agreement that participation in the International is selective and not mandatory.

Addresses by Attlee and Hardie the following day attempting to issue a vote of no confidence in Campbell on the basis of the “collapse of the International’s unity” is met with fury, and both men, long-time and loyal communists both, are publicly purged in show trials. Dissent quiets, and Campbell’s rule is stabilized… for a little while, at least.

>>180969174
It's childish non-sense to say that a spanish government rules Spain.

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Okay lads, which ideas group should I go for?

>>180969686
Humanists: it's time for England to be multicultural

>>180969858
Yeah, those extra culture slots will help once France is ours.

Shame I never got the force union mission, still, I'm nearly done incorporating Denmark, which I only RM on a whim and got a union out of a couple years later. Savoy also shares our dynasty so there's always hoping...

How high should bureaucrats be in a province?

>>180970620
they should be blazing it 24/7

>>180952275
That's quite sad
I liked him a lot

>>180969576
>Nigeria outproducing GB in tanks
>Russia already telling you to fuck off
>Rebels in Germany
>Purging longtime and loyal communist for trying to legally and peacefully remove the man from head office who failed the main goal of the International

>The state of Communist

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You can only revoke the manifest destiny cores if you're a great power or if you've won a war against them. All the great powers have been stable as fuck.

>>180970715
made me smile :)

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>>180970715
>Opium Need: Filled

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>>180969576
When the so-called “Great War to Demolish Capital” is finally declared, although most of the International agrees to participate, Trotsky’s refusal to assist isolates the majority of participants and prevents them from sending troops. The war, then, is effectively between France, Italy, Germany, Denmark and Sweden on the International’s side, and the Netherlands, Luxembourg, and Austria-Hungary on the “side of empire and capital.”

Even with an ill-prepared Volksarmee in Germany, the chances of the Dutch and Austro-Hungarians successfully resisting are minimal, and with their almost certain defeat the last two major empires in Europe will collapse under the crushing weight of the hammer and sickle. Even people who despise Campbell’s “crypto-capitalism” reluctantly nod their heads about his decision to target the two greatest enemies to international communism simultaneously, although worries about how these two new states will be proletarianized abound.

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>>180950649
It's beautiful

;_;

>>180952275
And now, the dark world begins. How long until the totalitarian state?

>>180971154
>12 industry

Shouldn't you be getting insane immigration? Just encourage capitalists and you will boom.

>socialist focus as Texas

You deserve to die.

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The early months of the war see the greatest action in Bohemia and Bavaria, with major battles between Austria-Hungary and the DDR locking down the Austrian army there, allowing Benito Mussolini’s Italian Free Army to invade the Kaiser’s territory through Venice with minimal resistance. With French forces under a somewhat reluctant Semard dividing themselves between Bavaria and the Netherlands, the prospects for a quick victory look strong.

Nevertheless, Campbell is concerned about the potential for Austro-Hungarian forces to initiate a major push through Bohemia toward Berlin, which the General Secretary views to be possible on the basis of their undefended eastern border with the Soviets; the lack of armies there alone suggests that as many as 100,000 regulars might be streaming north, and if Berlin falls Kaiser Wilhelm, who is still living in Vienna, might be rushed in to set up a provisional government. With German nationalism on the rise as evinced by Thälmann’s election, the return of Wilhelm would likely plunge the DDR into a civil war that might threaten not merely the war itself, but the fragile International. Even if Campbell is not a wise politician, he does at least have an eye for strategic planning, and for weakness.

As such, he phones Trotsky in Moscow, whose participation in the war Campbell now perceives to be critical, not merely to shore up the International’s unity and silence criticisms of his Secretariat at home, but to allow International forces from Africa and Asia to march against the Austro-Hungarians. After several hours of pleading, haranguing, and debating, Trotsky agrees to once again subsume the Red Army under Campbell’s command, but only if Campbell refuses to “ever attempt territorial aggrandizement at the cost of international unity again in the future.” The Marshal meekly agrees; a cheap price for the restored control of the entire Red Army, especially when the French were the only ones Campbell sought to weaken.