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Early Super cute! edition

Previous Thread: >>174290753

>New V105 patch is out for PC/consoles waiting certification.
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-288027-16/release-notes-for-v105

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

**ATTENTION CONSOLE BROS**
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SOON
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>>174375006
Consolefriends are apparently getting the V105 patch tomorrow.
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I always thought parrying the anime slash was fun.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjb268tpQlw

Why is ubijew so god tier at making kill animations?
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>>174375760
I wonder if they have a guy that used to work on Mortal Kombat doing those, or something.
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>>174375006
Alright! If you don't ready up as soon as the match ends then fucking kill yourself.
>muh customization
Please die
Everyone leaves, then the game crashes and I have to reset my console.
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I would have busted a nut if the last guy got blasted off the cliff on the other side of the explosion radius.
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>>174375840
Assassin creed had the most badass kill animations in sp and mp, shame assassins Creed multiplayer was discontinued.
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Is it possible to stack the fury and berserker feats on berserker for raid boss mode? Or should I just use sharpen blades instead
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Do you play with honor /fag/?
And I'm not talking about duels, I'm talking in 4v4 situations
I usually give no shits and will 2v1 even if the opponent waited for me to finish my duel
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>>174375981
Yeah I did it once.
I basically had shugoki health with the dmg reduc passive always on.
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>>174376054
There's too much BS in 4v4s to play with honor. Revenge spam? Projectiles? Throw distance on cancer characters? Fuck it.
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>>174375760
ubisoft is god tier at world building, animations and that sort of thing
too bad their gameplay department is god awful
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>>174375760
>warden
Oh my.
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>>174376448

>worldbuilding

there is none in for honor

they make good games that are hampered by technical issues you mean
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>>174376054
Ask my opponents.
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>Join dominion
>During Vs screen that one fag writes "We respect 1v1, yes?"
>In fucking dominion
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>>174376648
Techincal issues and lack of support.
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(you)
Placeholder for Warden Shoulderspam fags.
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So I'm trying to unlock and sprint/roll on berserker/orochi and there's a second or two where they just stand there still in combat stance before being able to do either action. Is this a feature?
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>>174375760
They literally just reuse Assassin's Creed resources. But yea, these are really good. That fucking LB tho. I want to see a Shugoki go flying.
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>>174375980
Man I fucking loved Assassin's Creed's multiplayer. Manhunt and Wanted were the shit.

Too bad over the course 3 games they never bothered to add literally anything new or attempt to balance the ridiculously overpowered abilities like Smokebomb or Crowd Morph.

If they added an assassination mode into For Honor I'd seriously drop $60 on the spot for it.
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>>174377289
Use that and The Impaler to make Shugoki feel weightless.
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>>174376054
4v4 isn't fair regardless because of Gear and Feats. The only reason to be an homorfag is if you know your teammate is winning easily and you don't want to trigger Revenge.

In Brawl I'll be an honorfag sometimes, but if I feel like farming some salt then I'll gank and make it fun.
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>>174377289
I just want LB's execution to see the weirdest place I can launch the bodies into
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>>174376972
>being this mad
its time you got gud
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And then the servers crashed
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>>174376972
You'll be mad to find out that the nerf is only going to increase the stamina cost of the shoulder bash, not remove the 50/50.

You'll learn to deal with it.
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>>174375760
>nobushi kicking the head off
0/10
>warden gets that kill animation from apollyon
NOICE
>the two giant axe wielding classes still have no decap animations
-10/10
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Fixed from last tread
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>>174376547
Just give me Apollyon's outfit with that execution and I'm set.

Related, I hope some of the campaign exclusive gear parts/ornaments get added to MP.
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>>174378121
>nobushi kicking the head off
>0/10
Just die. Doesn't even have to be suicide.
Find a way to end your life immediately.
>warden gets that kill animation from apollyon
>NOICE
That thing looks like it's a million years long and doesn't even kill until the end. Only useful for bming in Duel.
>the two giant axe wielding classes still have no decap animations
At least we agree on something. It's pretty dumb how Raider has his opponent on their hands and knees yet he doesn't chop their head off.
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LESSEN RAIDER'S STANCE CHANGE TIME! NOW! REEEEE
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>>174378365
I get the joke, but

>not a Kensei going YOOOOOOOOOO
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Rate my Warden?
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Nothing to do in for honor but make dumb webms.
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>>174378973
I don't care for the stripes on the helmet. Most of the time paint on the warden doesn't look very good, save for the default helmet and simple geometric patterns.
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>>174378973
>dragon ornament
>painted armor
>mismatched pommel and guard/blade
>different armor materials
>non metallic chest/shoulders
>MUH BLACK AND RED COLORS
>that helmet
>woman
0/10 would be embarrassed to play as.
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>>174378973
Lose the paint on the metal, or at least on the helmet.

Not a fan of the Dain arms due to the studs and spikes.

Bronze guard clashes with steel-and-gold-trim blade and hilt. Too many different materials.
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>when all your opponent does is block and wait for a parry

do people just think this is a singleplayer game? why can't i have fun too?
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is raider the hardest char to play?
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>>174378973
>femwarden
Good taste my friend femwarden is a cutie
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>just roll backwards bro
>don't worry he won't instantly start shoulder bashing
>don't worry you still have enough stamina left to roll backwards once
>ah shit looks like you're fatigued, too bad my dude
>but we can agree this is balanced right
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>>174379660
kensei or berserker
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>>174379660
i'd say nobu

>slow guard speed
>no way to open up a turtle
>very easy to see light attacks
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R8 my Kensama
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>>174379548
Pretty sure the pommel and blade are from the same set.

The chest and helmet are fine, Dullahan is the most sensible looking of the greathelm variety available to the Warden (three of them have gross flat tops, and Haedus has an ahistorical lobster tail)
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>>174379739
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>>174379842
toaster/10
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>>174379683
>Dragon ornament, Lion chest engraving
Too many different animals, pick one.
>unironically using Merope arms instead of Elner
Spikes are retarded.
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>>174379979
I dont like the lion ornament tho
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>>174379629

just run away
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>>174379739
I heard bitching about it fixes how bad you are.
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>>174380178
Don't worry wardcuck, I'll only complain about it for one more week
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We posting wardens?
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>>174380574

For (you) >>174378069

Shoulder bash isn't going anywhere friend. Git gud
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>>174379842
cocainecovered/10
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>>174380868
Stage 1: denial
See you in a week little cuck
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>>174380774
10/10 good use of colors and isn't gaudy at all. Fashion on point
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>>174379850
Doesn't excuse using weapon pieces that look like they don't match.
I don't even play Warden but I bet there's better alternatives.

It doesn't look particularly feminine though.
The eyes are too square and the paint pattern on top of it makes it look sort of like a beard.
He could've chosen a more rounded helmet besides a flat top.

This game isn't historical anyways so lobster tail doesn't bother me.
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>>174380968
you will be so mad next week, i will screencap this just to post it in a week
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>>174380774
Your middle one's mascara is running.
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>>174380968
>cuck
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means
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>>174381071
Help yourself, just make sure you don't hit the ground too hard when they take away your crutch
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>>174381207
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Raider is hard but I,m stragely enjoying him even with all the fuck ups I make
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R8 my Warden that's shit because I keep changing the design
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>>174381456
Do your self a favor, and reset customizations. For ever.
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>>174381456
Another loadout
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Creatively bankrupt color schemes for Defender and Attacker coming through. I don't have the Neutral one I want yet (Ink Forest)

Paisley 2 is something I'm just experimenting with since I just unlocked it. Might probably drop it once the novelty wears off, though I do like how the Merope helm's crossplate covers up engravings so they don't look like a solid texture.
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>>174381456
That engraving on the helmet always amuses me
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>>174380774
Uncertain about green's back, but I felt it needed mixing up
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>>174381456
Ram ornament should have ram hilt to go with it. As it is it's be better without the ornament
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>>174381825
The orange/blue team colors are hopeless; I don't even try with them anymore. Like half the neutrals would be perfect as team colors but are unselectable for it.
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>>174381456
>>174381669
>>174381825
>>174382314
>tfw everyone is posting wardens and i am too lazy to even log in
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All these wardens cutting into their clothes with their sword.
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>>174382823
I made specifically sure to avoid this in order appease your keen eye anon
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>>174381456
Pretty danke.
If you were trying to be serious though you might need some help.
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>>174381456
>>174381669
Well, if there's any Warden helmet that would possibly be able to use that engraving, it's that one.
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>>174375558
when you do it as warden and gb off the parry into a wall for a guranteed top heavy
tasty
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>>174383262
>chainmail tit
HNNNNNNNGGGG

You sword and colour schemes need some work though.
The crossguard barely matches the blade and the pommel/handle are a completely different style.
Crusader crosses on the shins look dumb. Especially with the built in crosses on the chest piece.
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>>174383262
>toy sword
Pretty disgusting desu famalam
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>>174377837

would be cool if you could hit other players with it
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>>174383262
Pretty good, though switch to Daubeny wings and unfuck that sword. Gilgamesh blade is gross, and the guard and pommel clash.
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>>174383262
Would be great if not for the pommel
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>>174383739
It probly can like shugos demon ball
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>>174383803
Bitch those are not Daubeny wings. >>174379478
These are Daubeny wings.
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>main Raider and no other Vikangz
>I don't even know what any of the engravings look like because the only place you can engrave is his shoulderpad which is at a 90° angle to the camera

R8 too I guess since we're posting mains
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>Winning
>game dcs 60% of the time
>loosing
>game DCs 30% of the time
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>>174384368
Hence "switch to". As in switch away from the fish fins. Reading comprehension, boyo.
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>>174384419
>a

you can engrave valk face and shied and stomach

same with warlord, sheild
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>>174384448
>ragequitting actually fucks over your opponents in this game
>literally no penalty for it
THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
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Beserker is fuckin impossible to get good angles on
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So I played against this conqueror who popped revenge. He hit me with the shield bash and knocked me down. He meatied the shield bash when I got up. Is there anything I can do in that situation or is it just death?
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>>174384661
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>>174383657
>>174383662
>>174383803
>>174383868
I cannot seem to get a pommel that isn't an animal so I picked a creature and embraced it
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>>174384791
In that case would look better in steel armor
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>>174384737
Berserker is also impossible to make look good, so it doesn't matter.
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>>174384624
Yeah, but I don't play those characters, only Raider from Vikings.
I literally don't know what the engravings even look like because they're a smooshed mess facing away from the camera.

I wish Raider could engrave his arms and chest with like brands or scar tissue.
That would be metal.
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>>174384791
If you seriously care about how your character looks just drop some steel on weapon packs.
Also keep at least one piece of each gear appearance instead of dismantling.
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>>174385045
>Also keep at least one piece of each gear appearance instead of dismantling.
You quickly run out of space. Gotta dismantle at least some
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LAWBRINGER FAGS POST YOUR BEST PONY SPAM MOMENTS
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What colors go well with gold on Lawbringer's standards?
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Lawbringer really doesnt need a push light off a balock that shit is fucking obnoxious to fight
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>>174385126
I know. Having 1 of each actually puts you at 60 exactly I'm pretty sure. Especially cause there's so many weapon parts.

If you see something you know you'll always hate though feel free to chuck that shit, but I like to at least keep one piece of gear in each theme.
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>>174381825
I liked yours better when you had the bird hilt to match the ornament. I'd go full bird theme and use phoenix emblems on the back too
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>tfw emblem editor is too shitty to make the crest of lordaeron
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>>174385795
Blue and Gold makes you look French or Swedish.
Red and Gold makes you look English or Roman.
Purple and Gold makes you look regal or pimpin.
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>be rep 0 level 6 raider
>elimination
>vs a 108 rep 12 warlord
>spams heavies
>keeps gettin parried
>beat him easily


how do these people play for so long and still be so bad?
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>>174384868
It's that fucking awful mask of his.
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>>174380774
POST LEGENDS INSTEAD
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>>174386103
fuck

at least we can honor jacket
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>>174386894
wow those two loadouts look very unique and different from each other
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>>174386725
the mask isn't terrible. it's the closest thing to a traditional viking helmet
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I keep getting raped by berzerkers. What do?
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>>174387457

parry and go backwards
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>>174387457

block
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>>174387476
But they feint and go forwards.
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>>174387583

Dude just attack

Zerker is shit
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>>174387457

literally how

Zerkers are shit
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>>174387836
yeah but im worse
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>>174388000
well you'll probably get fucked by anyone then.
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>>174387019
raider gets shit for customization, fuck you
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>>174387457
Never offense if you see a top heavy, just block top and wait to see if he feints it.
If you fuck up your parry of the finisher you get hit by the second strongest heavy in the game after Shug's max charge.
If you block it you take fucking six, SIX! Chip damage buff when?
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>>174388000
just block

don't go for a parry unless you KNOW it's a light. they will almost always just feint heavies and spam side lights. rarely will they do any top attacks. try to fight away from walls if you find yourself getting guardbroken a lot

if you notice them going for deflects, feint -> gb

otherwise just never believe any attack they make to be genuine. most zerkers just fucking spam feints and lights and that's it. block up and use your poking attacks to your best ability
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>wanna play Berserker
>have lost 25 matches in a row with him
>switch to kensei
>start winning

is he just not for me? I feint like a mother fucker and it doesnt work
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>>174388518

>25 matches

Are you the dude from last night holy fuck
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>>174384661
>>174384756
don't ask me why id didn't parry the lunge and throw her.
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Has anyone else noticed that almost every's face is completely covered?
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>Tfw orochi just feels like a worse kensei
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>>174389596
:^)
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What am I supposed to do when a dude parries all of my lights?
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>>174390000
Show him your digits and he'll quit for you.
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>>174388904
disgusting
ragequitting should make your level drop by one and count as a loss (when you actually select quit or the app closes, rather than on disconnect)
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>>174375981
i used to run it but the power of sharpened blades cannot be ignored. It's strong enough without stacking it with the berserker feat
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>>174388518
feint and just spam lights

that's your only thing

or whiffing a light/heavy and then using the superarmor to smack your enemy with another heavy on top of it

idk man zerker is just garbage
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MISERUM
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Tips for shugoki?
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>>174390050
yeah it's a nice get
I'm not >>174390000 but I was playing against a warden that parried every light, never attacked otherwise, never parried heavy attacks, always hit cgb, never dodged etc. only used guaranteed damage. What do?
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>>174390000
try to stop yourself and examine your fighting style. maybe you're being predictable. don't attack into him with a light if you notice his guard matches yours, as he will be expecting an attack and he's gonna go for a parry.

you could try to feint a lot to mess him up. feint -> instant light attack and see what happens. parrymasters are hard to deal with though and i've only ever run into like 2
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>>174390395
>paint on steel

absolutely ugly
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>mfw everyone says zerker is shit but i literally can't react to his light attacks even though i can react to pk light attacks
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>>174390473
what if they know what a heavy looks like and never parry them, and can just wait with their guard out and if you feint they wait for a light to parry or gb to counter
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>>174390445

Use super armor to phase through attacks, throw them into a wall then demons embrace to get your hp back, if full hp heavy + headbutt

try to light + headbutt if they keep trying to gb you to take your armor away

use your run 50/50 when they are out of stamina, a throw we will get you 60 damage

feint heavy into gb is good, let it fly sometimes and soak their hit with your armor and trade

alway gb after parry, RT will bat them away from you and 25 damage, light + headbutt will exhaust them if they are below half stamina, throw them into wall for demons embrace and HP back

hyperarmor can tank one hit from anything ( oni charge, any running grab, conq bash, warden bash, warlord headbutt etc) except a guardbreak, a gb will instantly break it, play safe when your armor is gone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zhszdF_wIU
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>people can rush a berserker better than a zerker rushing himself

I want to test out this fucking "kappa build"
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>>174390682
depends on your class. have you tried it anyway?

just do a feint and immediately light in the same direction

they will think the red marker is your light and then immediately start a parry (most of the time anyway) but instead get bonked by a light
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>>174390916
>kappa build

fuck off with this twitch garbage
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>>174390909
thanks a ton! awesome.
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>>174391096

Its an apparently hyper aggressive version of for honor
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>>174391267

just play him for a few matches and be shit

then look up the vid, youll understand it more
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What class do you hate playing more than any other?

I hate using nobushi, everything you have is just so telegraphed and react able, and you have virtually no openers.
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Guys, what if, and hear me out here. What if we gave all heavy classes unparriable first heavies?
Also the heavies afterwards do massive chip damage, and assassins lose the ability to parry altogether!
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>playing conq
>people just doge everything
>shit damage on anything that lands

What is this hell?
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>>174392306

Stop this meme

Conq is still an annoying fucker
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>>174391394
warden. I have him at rep 8 and i dont play him anymore. High tier warden gameplay is literally shoulder bash mixups. He's got no cool mixups and finishers like lawbringer which make his standup game stale.
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is PC full of fucking tryhards?

Almost all my attacks get parried

even my lights
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>>174391394
Raider.
You can't do shit.
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>>174393069
It's just easier on PC
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Daily reminder that if Ubishit releases ranked mode before fixing this fucking game it'll kill the little player base left in this fucking game

Also obligatory https://youtu.be/jETgDKRUlgc
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>>174391269
well what is it
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>>174393069
>being good at the game makes you a tryhard
back2cod with you
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>>174391269
>>174393264

I REALLY hope they bring this fucking build to the full game all the people who tried it out said for honor was actually fun to play again
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>>174392539
Well he does need a rework.
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>>174391823
>trough instead of through

fuck I'm triggered
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>>174393285

>using COD as an insult

lol
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>>174393258
that guy is pretentious as fuck
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>>174393406
maybe get good at feinting before posting about how bad you are next time
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>>174393462
You're talking about the fucking shit head warden right anon? RIGHT?
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>>174393286
>>174393336
what would the build even be? Faster attacks for everyone? Parry even harder to land? Combos that arent noob bait?
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>>174393258
>Warden misses the shoulder countless times but immediately blocks and techs GBs
>Literally his entire playstyle is fucking dependent on spamming his shoulder
>Wardens don't see a problem with this
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>>174393462
>>174393793
True is a fag, but he is good. Also, the last round that is fought, the raider totally should have won, but he fucked up and didnt block the ZA. I mean, even though Shoulder Bash is strong, its not impossible. I mean impossible. Its realyl really hard, but not impossible.
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>>174393643
Every time Tru3 gets shit on he makes some stupid excuse and pretends he knows better than anyone else.
And the Warden was playing how you should play Warden.
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>>174393905
It has no punishments though. You can literally guess right and dodge the shoulder for him to recover instantly and tech GBs and block attacks
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>>174393793
You forgot
>loses a round
>IMMEDIATELY starts spamming flicker glitch, unlocking glitch, feint GB glitch while cancelling shoulder like a madman
>mfw
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Are we still posting wardens?!
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>>174394037
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>>174393985
>durr is trues fault this time!
>50k people view this one video
>Devs on reddit literally talk about it
>spamming shoulder cancel and glitching the entire game should be easily beaten by a fucking pro raider

I want warden/roach cucks who obviously play like this hanging from trees
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>>174394187
where did the vortex touch you?
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>>174394187
I play like this because that's how you play the game at the moment.
If you can't handle it, just stop playing.
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>>174394289
Stop defending broken shit and glitches you massive fucking retard. The fact that you do just proves that you're willing to kill a game and it's small community for your pleasure of looking like you're good at the game when in reality, you're garbage and rely on shit that's not intended for the game to begin with to cheese your way to the top.


TLDR: neck yourself my dude, only honorable thing left to do.
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>>174394440
See >>174394506 you guys ruined our community by intentionally exploiting shit that's not intended for the game.
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>>174394037
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>>174379739

lol the shouldercharge has literally the most start up of the moves like it
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>>174393286
can you please elaborate? hyper aggressive in what form? what the fug man
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>>174394745

All we were told was

>Zerker is OP in this build
>Its super fun
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>>174393985
>>174394440

lmao the way that warden plays is basically pre-patch conq

fucking morons. at least raider can tech a gb while dodging and have a dodge attack, but a warden can easily deal with any of that and just re-initiate his turtlevortex
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so i guess what >>174393715 was saying.

i'd love to give it a shot. they should let the public test it for a weekend
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>>174394626
"Our community" is a bunch of cry babies that never touched a fighter before and still have massive egos.
They are leaving because they are shit like most people here.
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>>174393715
>>174395104

I heard it makes for honor feel much more like a fighting game

Super close to soul calibur apparently
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>>174394667
Hey thats pretty good!
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>>174395142
people are leaving because they are shit, not because:

revenge gear is still broken
gameplay instability
lack of gamemode variation
some heroes being vastly overtuned/undertuned compared to others (warlord, warden, PK being broken; raider, zerker being garbage; conq being nerfed to limpness)

you got it all right, dude. tell us more about your correct viewpoints based on your years of experience in the fighting game world
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>duel order
>nothing but Lawbringers and Wardens that do absolutely nothing but turtle
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>>174395187

Honestly this is what for honor needs

fuck over the turtles thats all I want
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>>174395426
>no mask
D R O P P E D
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>>174395518
Isn't it great? It'll only be worse when they make Law's shove -> light impossible to block
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>>174395518
>brawl order
>first match, my teammate is a PK
>he's an honorfag
>tell him to just jump in and stop being "honorable"
>"no thanks, I'd rather improve"

And that's the story of the time that Peacekeeper had a bot as a teammate.
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>>174395848
kek

reminds me of when I'd duel someone repeatedly that plays like cancer. I'll quit at the rematch lobby but then end up in their game again. After a few goes, I just pick PK and leave immediately, letting them play against a bot or quit
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>when people dont take your feints

what the FUCK
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Whats the deal with the drooling Neanderthals who play Dominion. "Wow that Lawbringer at C has ledged us all 15 times, maybe we should go back!" For fucks sake.
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>>174396560
>falling for feints
>ever
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>>174396651
Please calm down Mr Sausage
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>>174396691

Are that easy to read now? Being a kensei main and people just dont even budge with me now
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>>174396651

Pride
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>>174395426
>Nobushi wearing no pants
>Resting bitch face
I refuse.
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>>174394032
>loses a round
he lost round one, so you're talking about round 2 here, right?
>flicker glitch
you mean zone, which everyone knows the direction of and is unsafe on block, and he didn't even use at all in round 2
>unlocking glitch
>feint gb glitch
these are the same thing, and he used it once, in the next round, not the round after losing, and he got one light attack off because of it, tru3 then spent so long looking into the camera and talking about it that he got hit by about 3 more shoulder bash into light, from the same direction each time, without blocking any of them
>cancelling
you mean the thing he was using from the start, that is part of the toolkit and not a bug, and that even beginners do, and can be cgb'd on reaction

Yeah one move warden has is OP, but everybody can cgb or block on reaction, it's not a 50/50 because it cant be punished because nothing is guaranteed from it, just get hit by it and get ready to block a light or cgb, just like you would if he was standing in front of you anyway. If tru3 wasn't playing a char with slow guard switch, which is something ubi actually messed up with imo, and needs fixed, and wasn't talking to the audience he wouldn't have got hurt by it.
I'm not defending the player, or warden, but why so salty?
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>>174395848
>brawl
>2-2
>sweep a shugo off a small ledge
> rez my teammate who's at my feet
>my teammate "wow, really"
>kill shugo without his help anyways
>get qued up with him again
>"i don't wanna play with this guy"
>tell other team I rezed my teammate in a brawl match
>"wow what a scumbag"
>get enemy teammate mad by calling their honor rules retarded
>promptly get ganked by them in round 3 while my teammate does nothing

honorfags everyone, complete hypocrites.
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IF I PULL THAT MASK OFF, WILL YOU DIE?
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>>174397850

I wanna touch her feet
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>>174397750
Yeah, it can get annoying. We don't have gamechat in ps4, and although it can be limiting, not having people constantly spit autistic vitriol is decent.
That being said I can't 2v1 someone in brawl without getting hate for playing the game how it was MEANT to be played, I can see how new players might find it frustrating when both the enemys are better than you, but after a while of the same shit it's a welcome challenge.
Getting 2v1'd is the thing I look forward to the most in a brawl, I loose most 2v1s but they are fun, and when I do win against 2 opponents working together to kill me nothing is more satisfying. Why someone wouldn't want that baffles me.
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>>174397750
Honorfags are so fucking quick to throw tantrums if you don't follow their rules
>Playing elimination
>Round 1 I end up dying, game comes down to 1v4, my teams Conq against the entire enemy team
>They decide to honorfag and Conq actually takes out 3 of them, and was slowly winning the last fight but the time ran out so it was called a tie
>Round 2 the same thing happens with the game coming down to 1v4 with the Conq on our team
>Enemy Lawbringer who died 1v1ing the Conq decides he doesn't want to honorfag anymore, and tries ganking
>The Shugoki that was fighting immediately backs off, then Oni charges the Lawbringer to the ground
>He does this over and over, the Conq starts getting free heavies on the Lawbringer each time he gets knocked down, eventually kills him this way
>No one on his team picks him back up
Can you imagine being so fucking autistic about """"honor"""" that you literally teamkill your teammate because they didn't follow your imaginary rules?
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>Watching someone play
>They keep swapping between left and right stance over and over

Why do people do this? Why do they swap between stances? It doesn't do ANYTHING. If anything it puts you at a disadvantage on certain characters, and means your thumb is always occupied on the right stick.
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>>174398463
She's a soldier with fabric shoes fighting in a rainy forest bitch probably has trench foot, why do people not realize anyone from before 200 years ago would be vile by our standards.
I disagree with your boner.
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>>174398934
This.
Plus, she's my wife, so don't even think about it.
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>>174398463
>>174398934

The samurai might aswell be barefoot if they all wear those poor as fucking leather shoes that barely seem to be held together they also live in the swamp

that shit be nasty
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>>174398934
>>174399073

Thats my fetish
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>>174399327
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>>174399327

why would I even question /vg/
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>>174398854
If they're using kbm and haven't turned guard mode sensitivity down they might not be doing anything - it's sensitive as fuck on standard - tiny twitches will change it.
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>>174393406
If you think it isn't, you need to go back to cod.
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>Waga shuchuu ni ari!
>outskilled, kiddo
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How the fuck is a peacekeeper CGB me after I parry her?! How the fuck else am I supposed to get guaranteed damage on the dodging cunt!?
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IDEA

>Conqueror's flail charge now becomes unblockable after 2 seconds, unparryable after 3 seconds
This will make Conqueror strong offensively, but not an offense that he doesn't need, like his shield bash. Which brings me to

>shield bash can now only be done off of parries and superior blocks
Shield bash has been proven to be too strong of a safe offense for a character like Conqueror. Instead of making it an offense move, it's now purely defensive. Heavy version only works on parries, light version on superior block. Light version no longer combos into a light attack, but it pushes back farther and allows Conqueror to get a free level 1 charge on his flail.

Finally, AoE now drains less stamina, and charges like his heavy attack. When charged long enough, it becomes an unblockable, and Conqueror can walk while he uses it much like his full block. This will make Conqueror good at what he's supposed to do, be an asshole when taking points.
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>>174399741
you aren't
BALANCED AND FAIR WORKING AS INTENDED
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>>174399605
>Dumbass Goki tries to WAGA SHUUCHUU me in a 2v1
>Dodge it and ledge him.
>"wow really?"
>Mfw
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>>174398854
>assassins guard can't stay up longer than a second
>avoid being predictable in defense
>avoid being predictable in offense
>hide what directs you prefer to attack from
>get a sense of rhythm which helps you respond to a block at the right time
>keeps your thumb warmed up and helps you react faster to very fast attacks
Sometimes if I play PK (when I hit random mine's only level 3 I don't play her often) I like to face away from the enemy and guard lock, then walk backwards towards them while doing the retarded arm dance to intimidate them, it's a severely underutilized turtle meta breaking mixup.
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>>174399803
I need to know, why is this happening? Is it supposed to?! Im super fucking lost. I just quit a 2v2 because it was the only way I cold land a hit on this peacekeeper and she just kept counter GB me even after I parried her attacks.
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>>174399327

I want you to imagine Nobushis feet after a day of her doing stuff

Her training must cause her feet to have large blisters and calluses due to her fancy foot work she must be forced to wrap them all the time. She must also just use her shoes for battle so she must walk around all day barefoot in the myre if she doesnt pay attention to where she steps she could get shit like a fungus infection or worms.

wanna touch her feet now?
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>>174400008
All you did was make me

ROCK

HARD
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>>174400158
feel free to leave at any time, pal
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>>174400008

I would like to know more about the heroes personal lives
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>>174399741
The only way to beat PK is to be substantially better at the game than the PK player. PK players aren't reward for learning the fundamentals (lightspam works better), so they never really get very good.
Unless they started off as a raider or something and they are really good at the core gameplay, in which case, just be way better than them because PK has the best risk/reward ratio in the game (aside maybe Shug/Warden but idk, that's just a general consensus it's subjective)
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daily where is my roman, where is my scutum post
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>>174400158
How do you imagine each of the fem heroes would treat you with their feet? I like to think of nobu as the motherly type.
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oh my fucking god, i can't fucking stand the pure fucking autism of this fucking game. it takes me literally 3 deaths to get so fucking explosively angry that im ready to throw my fucking controller.

this fucking faggot and cock sucking boyfriend... playing dominon with the most broken fucking gear, would NOT get off each other cock the entire fucking game, a lawbringer peice of shit would would do nothing but throws and gaurd breaks so his faggot nigger lover with his fucking retarded 400% damage berserker could WITH ONE HIT take half your fucking life

this kind of unabashed fucking blatant exploitation and autism pisses me off so fucking much
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>>174378365
>not ryujin no ken wo kurae
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>>174400394
So for real, no shit, you CAN NOT GB a peacekeeper off a parry?! What a load of horse shit. Why bother learning more challenging fighters when you can play the peacekeeper and have someone hold you hand.
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>>174400290
I could do with some for honor fluff ngl.
Not the foot fetish stuff, the context to the heroes stuff.
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>>174400526
I wasn't addressing this specifically, but this doesn't sound right. Every time I've parried one I have gotten gb (as orochi, warden, and conq), are you using LB, nobushi, kensei, or valk? They don't always get it because of their range. You may also not get it if you run out of stamina on the parry, or if you wait at all or move.
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>>174399791
>Conqueror can walk while he uses it much like his full block
That's fucking amazing.
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>>174400526
There's a bug going on with debuff resistance. If you max it out you can tech GBs after parries, they're working on fixing it
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>have a thousand points in domion
>AN ERROR HAS OCCURED RETURNING TO MAIN MENU
>THE LAST 15 MINUTES IS COMPETELY WASTED
>ALL THOSE ORDERS YOU DID DONT COUNT NOW
>NO STEEL FOR THAT MATCH, NO XP EITHER BECUASE OUR SHIT FUCKING SYSTEM CAN'T HANDLE ONE LITTLE FAGGOT RAGE QUITTING
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>>174400869
they patched that out already
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>>174401180
Don't think it's patched on consoles yet
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>>174399791
I'd make it so that after 6 seconds of flail charge he runs out of stamina, but can still hold it spinning, but it powers down instead of up upon release while out of stamina.
I'd keep light version shield bash chaining into an attack but just make it blockable.
the heavy one makes no sense, conq should get a guaranteed heavy/gb in whatever direction he parrys so it;s not too gimicky.
Like the zone idea a lot.
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>>174399791
>Unparryable at 3 seconds.
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>>174400290
>>174400569

Id like to think the samurai are all royalty with Shugoki being a clans sumo Nobushi is of course a female samurai either raised or brought into it and as such she does duties like manage the money, and entertain guests . Orochis are special samurai who received ninja training and the like they directly serve Kenseis.

Knights all serve a king/lord with peacekeeper handling politics and the like as a fair maiden. Warden/Law Bringer were raised in castles so they are accustomed to its lifestyle and train while also handling other tasks. Conqueror unlike the others was raised outside the castle and had to earn his postion. id say it varies from each conq some hate the noble lifestyle while others take pride in rising though the ranks like this.

Vikings seem to be the usual Berserkers just seem to be skilled fighters and valuable hunters. Valkyries could seen as priestess of sorts since they anser directly to the gods. Raiders seem to be also picked at birth due to muh prophecy and Warlords seem to be the usual jarls who manage their warbands and the like
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>>174401305

sounds boring
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>>174400857
Warden. I have full stamina and it happened from neutral.
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>>174401214
Im on PC so thats not it.
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this game does nothing but fucking piss me off. i dont even know why the fuck i play it, or anything. i get no fucking joy from anything i play anymore. why the fuck can't i stop playing this fucking shit?
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>see a Rep 14 Law
>oh cool a fellow high rep law
>just spams Shove>GB

Christ
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>>174401780
did it work?
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>>174396560
>when people take your fients but fient to catch themselves
Goddammit
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>>174401860
not to me at least.
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>>174401305
Doesn't quite fit into the design elements and things the devs referenced in interviews. Nobushi is more of a shady merc/dancer, orochi is like the pretentious special agent, shugs is like that one guy nobody likes but his jokes are funny and he's killed more people than the special agent, kensei starts off foot soldier, ends up legendary like his namesake.
Aside from Warden LB being boilerplate knights, conq being a criminal and pk a sneaky annoying whore you might as well make the rest up.
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>>174401568
>>174401501
Well shit.
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>>174401898
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>>174401287
Right now his flail charge is just parry bait, making it more deadly by making the opponent nervous. In theory it should almost never get to the full charge, because they'll back off or try to make a move before then.
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You just stepped on a nail bomb. How do you react?
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>>174402370
I probably explode.
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>>174402370
Bleed. Bleed to death.
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>>174402217
Did I encounter some new bull shit bug or something? Some test this bull shit. I parried the attack, went for the GB and she CGB me. I tried it two more times, then I tried attacking instead of GBing her off parries, she parried my parry and then I RQ.
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>>174402370
survive dat shit an keep on cuz I got max debuff resistance like a shitter to never get gb.
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>Guy spams help as he gets 2v1'd
>Am just finishing fending off a light spamming PK.
>Manage to get there as he dies.
>"Wow, thanks. For fuck's sake."
>Mfw
Fuck you, guy. Get good.
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Can we address difficulty real quick? What is the reward for playing something challenging in this game when you can play the 50/50 BS of the Orochi, "Oh is it going to be top spam or za" game, the PK and the immune to being punished after a parry, the shugs "lol ill eat your heavy attack and demon embrace you" and the bull shit of head butts. Some one please red pill me to keep playing the raider, kensai, and zerker.
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>>174403142
why do people play games on hard mode instead of easy mode?
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>>174403556
At the end of the day in a competitive multiplayer game people play to win not to brag.
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>>174397293
People want every character to be as shit as their main and scream autistically until it is made so. Only a matter of time before every character is garbage and the turtle meta is untouched. If it takes Ubi weeks or months to fix a single character, I'd love to see how long it takes them to change the entire game. This is just another game with a lot of potential ruined by its community and the devs. Sad too.
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im fucking tired of these rage quitters crashing the game at the fucking victory screen
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>>174403610
Playing a character with a niche toolset is arguably more rewarding than playing a top tier character though. In the JoJo arcade game, Pet Shop is SSS tier broken, but nobody ever uses him since he's just not fun.
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Kensai or Conq? Or should I stay warden?
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>>174403610
I play it for fun though, and i have fun winning with shit characters.
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>Go against a Warden
>He's low level but has expensive gear
>All he does is spam the shoulder and guard
>Doesn't even try to parry or anything, just turtles and shoulders
>It's probably some guy bandwagoning onto Warden since everyone knows how crazy OP he is
>Just tell him I don't wanna deal with it and quit

There's no point. It's not fun.
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>>174404701
Stay Warden if you want to keep winning consistently without too much hassle. Kensei if you wanna win against really bad players by putting in absurd effort. Conqueror if you wanna lose most of the time against good players but also just turtle and smack with lights.
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>>174404848
pretty ez to deal with if he really doesn't try to parry. Unless you're a nobushie or some really bad match up.
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>>174405213
this. Stop being bad and learn to counter. It's like if someone kept spamming PK zone attack cancel and only PK zone attack cancel. Just punish.
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When is the light attack spam being fixed? Holy shit people are using it intentionally just to troll.
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>can parry pk's lights
>can't parry raw warlord heavys
it can't only be my right?
i swear there is no difference between warlord's heavy and light animations
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>Go against a Kensei as Lawbringer
>He says LB is more powerful than Warden
>Tell him how retarded that is
>Go Kensei into his Kensei
>We're 2-2
>Realise the ONLY time he gets damage on me is when I whiff an attack or parry
>Stop parrying entirely
>Just block his attacks and GBC
>Pop revenge and run away just to tick him off
>He gets super mad at me for doing this
>Rage quits in the tie breaker round

He also used the word "meme" a lot and called me a "cuq" for using Revenge to run away. It was pretty fun, over all.
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>>174406186
>called me a "cuq" for using Revenge to run away
I would be a lot more mad if someone popped revenge to get a cheap kill than to run away
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>>174406301
I was just doing it to see if I could force a draw by refusing to attack, and it worked. If you just don't even bother trying to parry, certain characters like LB, Nobushi and Kensei have no way of doing anything. It's great.
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>been a shugoki main since launch, before oni charge was discovered
>slowly feeling myself getting worse since people turtle up more and I can't trade hits
>switch to raider and practice parrying
>tfw going against wardens, parrying their top light and chunking them with heavies in return

Feels so fucking good. I'm actually getting better at this game.
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>>174406393

Feels better parrying lights as an LB.
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>population high
>same 8 people every game
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>>174402370
[Cackles in warden]
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>>174406393
Dmbrace the oni charge. The turtle fears it.
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>>174406186
Lawbringer is going to be top tier after the next patch when they bugfix shove and make Warden's shoulder consume more stamina
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>>174406495
Well I mean (assuming you're in the US) it's anywhere from midnight to three AM on a Tuesday that could be it too
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Why would anyone play valk? You have one combo, and only one. Light Light leg sweep. Doesn't it get boring?
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>>174406853
Yeah, I don't really like that. I have reached Rep 5 only playing duels as Lawbringer and I feel like I know him super well. I have around 115 hours in the game since release, and the vast majority of that is Lawbringer duels gameplay.

After this next patch, you won't even need to feint. Everyone will just spend the whole fight staring angrily at LB and draws will be regular occurrences.

>>174407147
A lot of characters are like that. There are Shugoki mains who just use the charge, over and over, and have a good time. Valk actually has some mix ups and fun stuff to do if you are willing to take risks.
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>Carrying the shit out of a game of elimination
>My team is complete trash, literally they each had 1 kill compared to my 10
>Enemy team is being carried hard by a Roach in revenge gear (console, no nerf yet) who just abuses his flicker
>Last round it comes down to 1v1 me and him
>Manage to pick up two of my teammates, Roach immediately runs to stack buffs
>Signal nonstop for my team to stay grouped up
>They actually listen
>Roach comes back with every buff
>Sharpens his fucking blades
>Retarded teammates attack him and he gets revenge, killing them both
>End up losing
I fucking cannot stand constantly getting paired with teammates who are high functioning retards
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Fastest way to gain rep?
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Anyone else getting fucking sick of dominion matches freezing and your game crashing all the fucking time? I'm too afraid to even play dominion anymore because I can't fucking stand having my game freeze 70% of the time and losing credit for the whole match.
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>>174401305

Appolyon mentions in the final mission that all concept of nobility is dead in Ashfeld.
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>>174407684
Grinding contract orders against bots. If you're lucky and get orders for the character/class you want, you can get at least 6k XP per batch of contract orders, in addition to the 2-4k or so you will get just by playing those matches. This is roughly 5-10 levels I think, depending on what level your character already is.
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Who should I play?
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>>174407863
Kensei or Lawbringer. Lawbringer is way better than Kensei now, but Kensei is so damn satisfying. Raider is a hard counter to the Warden meta.
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>>174407863
Orochi. Trust me. Play him with all his tools and you're experiencing a vastly different game.
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Post images that best describe the For Honor experience
>tfw gitin gud as raider

Quick tip too for PS4 players: You can rebind controls by going to settings, and in the accessibility menu, there will be an option to rebind your controller. Remember, this affects controls for all aspects of the PS4, so be sure to change your settings back when you are done, or get used to the new settings.
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>>174408113
Last time someone told me to trust them I woke up with a sore bum.
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>>174408165
I could make a collage of my rage quitting opponents in duels at this point.
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>>174408223
That's what you get for trusting your dad, Anon.
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Where the fuck are the new characters???
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>>174407863
Try people yourself honestly.
You haven't touched anyone else besides Warden or Nobushi so I can't really determine what else you'd like.

If you want to have variety though I'd focus on having 1 of each archetype of heroes.
So finding a Heavy that suits your style and an assassin should be a priority for you.
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>>174408309
After the season ends.
The characters aren't even officially announced yet.
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>>174408393
>>174408309
And there's a small waiting period between seasons, could be 1-2 weeks at best. New characters probably won't be released until the actual season starts, and only to season pass holders for the first week
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>>174408393
Yeah and "officially" ubisoft is a team of multicultural and religiously diverse people but we all know the truth.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwhd7jWx1TU


I get access to patch 1.05 tomorrow.

Say something nice about the patch please
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>>174408734
It will make your dick bigger
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>>174408734
Not a lot changes.
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>>174408734
there's nothing nice about it. The buffs for Berserker were ok, but the ones for Kensei were minor and the ones for Lawbringer put him to S tier.

The nerfs did literally nothing. Peacekeeper is still a top tier character, as are Warlord and Conqueror. Ubisoft thinks marginally nerfing one aspect of a character makes them balanced.

The revenge nerf makes it practically useless EXCEPT in 1v1's or unless you have gear, making gear even more important now.
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>>174408982
I wouldn't say Lawbringer is S tier. He's better than he was, and better than Zerker and Kensei, but he's not some fucking hellish death machine of 50/50 bullshit like Shugoki and Warden. He's mid tier at best. Next patch, however, he will probably be S tier.
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>>174409050
>Lawbringer
>no 50/50's
Blocking guarantees him a 50/50.
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>>174408494
They changed that line years ago sadly. Initially it was to not have turbanmonkeys get mad at them, now it's to show their progressive street cred
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>>174409374
At the moment it doesn't, it will next patch.
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>>174409628
I still don't understand what a character's sexuality or gender identity has to do with how good of a character they are.
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>>174409628
Assassins creed was already going downhill, but this is what really drove home the decision to not buy syndicate, no matter how cheap of a sale it goes on
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>>174409931
>tfw the last asscreed game i played was 2
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>>174410092
It all goes downhill after 3. Black flag was a good pirate game, but not a good assassins creed game
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>>174402615
> she parried my parry
You're probably just too late to GB after you parried. Also, You're pretty much fucked if you're against a skilled PK so hope for the best that the next PK you fight is the stereotypical ones.
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>>174410359
There was no fucking way I was too late, it was immediately after the GB, there was no room for distance, as I was ontop of her.
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>>174409701
It has nothing to do with a character being good or not.
People in creative positions though want their stupid quotas crammed into every single story. Even if it makes no fucking sense.

I honestly can't stand when a character is gay for no reason though, because when I see that I feel like it's a conscious descision by the creator(s) to send some sort of message.

If the creator is gay, then whatever, they're reflecting their own experience. But if it's a bunch of overgrown white high school girls telling the audience what life is like for a gay black man, they can fuck off.
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>>174410092
Last good one was Revelations anyways.
3 killed any reason to be interested in the series at all by fucking 2 storylines simultaneously.
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>>174405745
I used to have your problem then I noticed that although his heavies are slow, that actual swipe is instantaneous.
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>>174408982
>>174409050
Nah, lawbringer is pretty fucking annoying even now. Better than warden once they give him a 50/50 based solely on the fact that his fucking shove is really stupid to dodge.
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>>174410909
His shove is fucking really easy to dodge, the fuck are you talking about?
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>>174410969
I get smacked by the fucking thing no matter how I dodge.
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>>174410092
> tfw the last asscreed game I played was Altair Chronicles on DS
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>>174410995
Then ur bad
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>>174410995

on block or out of neutral?
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>>174411371
block. For some reason when he tries it when it's not a follow up to something I can dodge it but for some fucking reason can't do it any other time.
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>>174411418
It's confirmed off of a block
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>>174411458
Well that's why then. I figured as much, but was still getting fairly irritated by it.
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Conq, Warlord or Shugoki?
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>>174410092

>tfw the last AC game I played was Syndicate
Pirated though, just like Unity
Got all others for 20 bucks in total. AC is not so bad if you don't pay more than 10 bucks for a single game, you will just hate yourself for it.
But seriously I was 90% sure that /v/ was pranking me with that new text until I read it ingame myself.
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>>174411516
Warlord. Much better than the other two
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>>174411418

the shove is guaranteed on block

the follow up is easy enough to deal with on reaction, on PC at least. if he grabs you and starts a chain though things can get real shitty real fast, especially if youre near a wall
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>>174411568
What do you mean? That has been in every game since the first one.
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>>174411580
Yea, that's been my problem. The weird thing with the followup attack is that sometimes I can block it and the other times it goes right through my fucking block.
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>>174411679
It's actually a bug that you were able to block it at all. Apparently, you're supposed to have to dodge it.
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>>174411670
Keep reading it nigga.
Before syndicate Ubisoft knew that there are only two genders and didn't mention this.
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>>174411720
That's fucking retarded. It makes more sense for you to be able to block it if you're quick enough. It's a pretty fast follow up
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how does laws 50/50 work with new patch? bash into poke or GB like warden or what?
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Ok turns out your childhood friend now works at Ubisoft and he's asking you for help on how to differentiate the Roman from the rest of th4e cast already in the game. What do you tell him?
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>>174411516

Shugo or maybe Warlord if you don't want to play as le funny fat man meme.

Shug is getting the Oni Charge horse shit removed next week, but I think he will still be absolutely legit. Best HP, super armor all day-can trade hits in his favour easily all game, takes a pile of stamina with that guaranteed headbutt, best GB rewards in the game, 1HKO with Demon Embrace(guaranteed on wallsplat) if he eats a load of damage first-even if it doesn't kill it does a lot of damage and regains HP for you,
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>>174411861
Tell him to make him an exact clone of Warden in gameplay, but turn the 50/50 into a guaranteed heavy every time, no way to possibly counter it.
Watch Warden mains switch instantly and claim it's fair
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>>174411769
It's pretty stupid, yeah, and this is coming from a lawbringer main. I like that the light after the shove is faster now, but it shouldn't be unblockable.

>>174411860
You're correct, shove into either light or GB
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>Console patch tomorrow.
>Bonk will be getting nerfed to uselessness and now his only "free" target the LB will be super powerful.
Time to main Centurion? I assume they're never going to buff Conqueror after this.
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>>174412147
LB is still kinda bad, he's just better at punishing/stomping shitters than he used to be.

He still has no place in so-called high-level play.

But yeah, conq got bonqed
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holy shit

the memers werent even wrong

the game is literally going to die before the new characters are out

jesus christ someone hold me i wanna cry
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>>174412147
>Console patch tomorrow
>Roaches will no longer get revenge by injury and two shot me when I'm about to kill them
I cannot fucking wait. Also Conq prebuff is too fucking stronq
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>>174412279
i feel you
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>>174412303
>Conq prebuff is too fucking stronq
Still never understood this meme unless all you play is Dominion Conq was horrible in duels.
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>>174411861

make him a gladiator with a trident and net.

he gets 4 nets per respawn
net is a ranged GB with poor damage rewards and no knock down on exhaustion but causes 10-15 seconds of speed and guard change debuff, if it hits you while exhausted it lasts the full 10-15 seconds plus the entire duration of your exhaustion, during which you cannot move around or dodge along with the guard speed debuff

Has 2 "stances"
one hand grip on spear with net in the other hand if you have one(can be changed extremely fast if youre out of nets). 1 hand grip has good speed (400-500ms lights) but poor damage and terrible guards as in gets rocked and takes chip damage from lights

2 handed grip takes 2 seconds to change to if you still have nets but does good great damage and has average guard
i'd also change the so called "debuffs" that exist currently for PK and Nobu from just doing piles of bleed DoT to doing speed and vision debuffs respectively. every fucking weapon in the game should do bleed damage or internal bleeding/broken bones if it hits, giving only 2 classes access to that is retarded.
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>>174412357
Even in duels he was annoying as shit to face because he'd just turtle and shield bash since it was unpunishable
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>>174412510
Annoying but not difficult, the SB combo does hardly any damage.
I'd still rather face a Conker in a duel than pretty much anyone else in the game.
Apart from Valkyrie pre-patch because lol what a shit character.
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>>174412510
This. The shield bash was 100% safe pre-patch. It was the most annoying shit ever.
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>>174411749
Ah I didn't see identities at the end.
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>>174412585
>Annoying but not difficult, the SB combo does hardly any damage.
That didn't stop Conqs from doing nothing but it to slowly widdle your health down because there was no punishment on it if you dodged
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I fucked around with Warlord in the free roam tutorial mission. He feels fun.Will people shit on me for using him?
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>>174403631
>Turtle meta is awful
>lets replace it with an unpunishable offense meta instead.

Cancer like you is why companies don't listen to the community in the first place.
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>>174412357
>>174412303
>>174412147
>>174412260

rep 15 conq player, rep 17 account here

conq used to be excellent in duel. had 4 losing match ups all the same(PK, raider, shugo and warlord) but he was very good and extremely irritating to play against.

he needed a nerf, but they went waaaay too far. he cant attack, CGB, or even guard off a missed light or heavy bash anymore, he can't chain heavy out of missed heavy bash so his only pressure mix up now is conscript's attrition to heavy where he used to be able to threaten and move around with heavy bash -> heavy attack

they nerfed his unlocked 30 damage heavy so he has the lowest damage in the game now by far at 15/25 and his level 3 charged heavy has absolutely no utility in duel. he has tied for second slowest attacks, only shugo and law are slower on average but both of those characters can get openers with super armor and bash mix ups and get much better damage rewards

full block doesnt work after being bashed now and it also comes out far slower so it has no utility in duel. it also costs a shit load of stamina to get hit while in full block and you cant follow up with a riposte bash because of how badly staggered you get

long story short, the devs listened to reddit and salty warden fags and leveled the conq with like 10 different nerfs and no buffs in the same patch. if you wanna keep playing conq, like i do, the only way to get openers is to dodge guard enemy attacks and respond with a bash->light. thats all you can do now
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>>174412859
Yes, isn't that great?
And now they also out themselves as shitters if they do because headbutt is pretty easily dodged now and if they got ledged, they fucked up a fundamental skill they should have mastered before even reaching rep1 with a single character!
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>>174412945
I never used it much. It doesn't seem to do much damage at all.
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>>174412917
>they nerfed his unlocked 30 damage heavy
Yes but they buffed his locked on heavy. So you can actually get executions now.
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>>174413030

you could always get executions. executions have no point in duel and you could buff your damage to get them in gear score modes.

And getting a 25 damage heavy(lowest in the game) in exchange for a 30 damage heavy is not a buff, its a considerable nerf. went from lowest damage in the game, to even lower still
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>>174412917

The thing is that I still win most fights with conq and that I see many others do the same and that his winrate being still too high means he will get another nerf.
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>>174412859
he is fun that he is a very good character, but he gets boring very fast
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>>174412945
Ledge is bullshit, stop being a t. Warlord poster.

If you get thrown off an edge it is entirely easy to counter but how he can aim you in any direction and carry you the length of the fucking map is absurd.

Ask any fighting game veteran if "character has a throw that kills you in one hit" is a fair mechanic and they'll laugh in your face.
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>>174413257
>MFW have had ring outs for Soul Caliburs entire lifespan and the idea of fighting at the ledge isn't a bother at all.

Do people really tilt that hard?
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>>174413257
Why would I care about fighting game veterans when FH is not even a fighting game
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recommend me for honor streams /fhg/, who is /ourguy/
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>>174413402
nobody

all streamers are shit
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>>174413349
yes
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>>174413349
Because ring out in SC doesn't happen with a sometimes untechable throw.
There is absolutely no reason as a Warlord to even attack your opponent with your sword. With enough persistence you're going to land enough GBs to throw them off an edge if you're that autistic.
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>>174413402

probably truetalent, sadly. he's a douche but hes realistic about the faults and merits of the game and its characters and he doesnt abuse flickering or other bullshit glitches, he also mains raider and everyone likes a low tier hero
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Who are the most OP characters at the moment?

Who are the worst?
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>>174413402
kinseymister
petemoo
exthelionx

all are good at their chars and seem ok

>>174413531
if i wanted to see a grown up cry all day i would watch myself
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>>174413402
me
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>>174413349

in SC2, the actually competitive one, ring outs rarely happen because all throws that get ring outs can be teched and most attacks that would normal put you offstage can be air controlled out of

really the only high level characters with good ring out moves are yoshi with his knee and astaroth with his headbutt
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Season end is like a week from now. Why isnt there any new hero footage yet?
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>>174413594

Petemoo is a scumbag, plays shugo and warden, abuses broken mechanics all day
XTheLeonX is garbage, whiny bitch. His greatest achievement at the game is getting absolutely fucked raw by LegionUnchained and spawning the video that was largely responsible for the conq nerf
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>>174413592
Warlord, Warlord, and also Warlord

zerk is kinda shit right now so all the LB fags are jumping to him
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>>174413461
Can you honestly blame someone for not wanting to stay against a Warlord who's going to parry ledge people?
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>>174413463
>sometimes untechable
Every time it's untechable is because you fucked something up
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>>174413592

until the 1.06 patch hits, Shugo is most OP by miles. then Warlord and PK, then Warden
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>>174413651
There's an inbetween season period of a week or two. We'll probably get the footage then
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>>174413592
>Who are the most OP characters at the moment?
PK
>Who are the worst?
kensei, zerker, nobushi, lawman, orochi, raider...
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>>174413752
>>174413815
I always said WL and ISHYGDDT were OP and I'm happy everyone else finally realised.
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>game freezes after the longest dominion match in history
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>>174413531
>truetalent
>>174413594
>kinseymister
>petemoo
>exthelionx
>>174413702
>LegionUnchained

At least Notalents dick isnt so tiny to purposely exploit every single broken mechanic, but still.

You all need to kys.
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>>174413531
did someone say low tier
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>>174380774
Does Liam O'Brien have wider hips than fem warden?
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>>174413761
don't get parried, kid ;^)
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>>174413787

>get parried
>get baited into a dodge
>whiff your own GB
>whiff a heavy
>have your zone blocked

there are plenty of ways to give up an untechable state, vs warlord this a death sentence from anywhere that he has line of sight to an environmental. this is not balanced
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>>174413787
>Headbutt forces them to doge
>Untechable throw as reward

>Conqueror does anything
>Untechable throw as reward

lol
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>>174413890
one of those is not like the otherr
spoiler: n0t4l3nt is trash and a whiny bitch, everyone else on that list are at least good at the game
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>>174413909
E
V
O
L
V
E
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>>174413981
>good at the game

wait til they remove flickering and nerf shug and warden
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>>174414043
they will still be better than the linkage fag
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Most frustrating thing about this game to me is playing Conqueror and beating low level shitters who then cry because "Conqueror is overpowered" because some dipshit who only plays Dominion on Reddit told him so.

Yet Warlords are free to roam around the land pulling off ridiculous shit and being stronger than Conqueror in every single aspect and no one says a damn fucking thing.

Reminds me of what it's like being in a workplace with females.

>You screw up.
"WOW ANON WHAT THE FUCK? GET TO MY OFFICE."
>Woman screws up.
"Tee-hee so silly, lol! I'll get you a drink and you can just sit down and relax :)"
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>>174414079
jesus dude calm down why are you so mad lmao
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>>174413981
I cant even imagine how much of a loser you must be to think cheating means you are good.

I bet you dont even play the game out of fear of loosing a match, you just watch others play it.
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>>174413402
ScottJund if you want to see someone use a non meta character
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>>174414120
Ew.
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>>174413761
as someone who hates how fucking stupid warlord is
yes I can blame them because that's a parryledge any character can get, that map is ass and that roach positioned themselves in the worst way possible
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>>174413702
Which video?
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>>174413402

galahad94 has been a law main since day 1. hes very good. his streams can be entertaining at times
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>>174414118
how many tournaments has balding streamer won?
__0__
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>>174413917
I don't, because I just quit against Warlords
>>174414169
Yeah it could have happened with any character, but any character trying for a parry ledge is just cancerous as shit
>>
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>>174414169

agreed in the case of that video. if youre gonna play recklessly like that on that map it can only be because you want to die quickly to ledging and get it over with

i often do that myself on obvious ledge maps. go or broke so it ends quickly one way or the other
>>
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>>174414217
Anon why did you post this? It's just an unfortunate lagspike :^)
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>>174414217
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>>174414238
>but any character trying for a parry ledge is just cancerous as shit
anon PLS
position yourself better and dont be so much of a shitter
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>>174414238
>any character trying for a parry ledge is just cancerous as shit

>do something reckless and unsafe
>get punished for it
>wooooooooooooooooooowwwww learn to play the game fucking ledging scrub. fuck you! you should just let me do whatever i like without ever taking the optimal punish!!!!REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

calm down and git gud, boyo
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>>174414210
>admiring cheaters
>anime poster

I dont even know which one you mean, but even bringing up tournamets shows perfectly who are we dealing with here.

I would suggest you stop embarrassing yourself further, but you dont seems like a reasonable type of person anyway.
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>>174412917
Conqueror is still by far one of the safest characters in the game.
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>>174414341
>>174414342
I'm not defending having shitty footing, you guys aren't actually getting the picture
>Enemy camps a ledge and turtles the fuck up to parry ledge
>Unless you're playing Warlord to headbutt, you cannot do anything about it
WOW SO MUCH FUN TO PLAY AGAINST

I've literally had faggots let the game draw because they refused to leave the ledge
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>>174414370
>admiring a whiner

I dont even know which one you mean, but even bringing up tournamets shows perfectly who are we dealing with here.

I would suggest you stop embarrassing yourself further, but you dont seems like a reasonable type of person anyway.
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>>174414494
nice argument
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>>174414418

based on what? bash? its punishable by everything now. you must be fucking garbage if you still get popped by random conqs
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>>174414494
shouldnt you be in a school, kiddo?
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>>174414418
Safe? Sure.
If you haven't realised he does the lowest damage in the game as always, ALWAYS has done.
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>>174414674
His dash in mixup is still strong. Nerfind the shield bash only made Conqueror players smarter, so they're taking a page from Warlord's playbook and just doing the dash in bash/guard break mixup. Only way to stop it is to know exactly when the Conq is going to dash and light attack him. I'm all for Conqueror buffs, but they need to redesign a lot of his abilities first. What can they even buff with his currest toolkit to make him better but not ridiculously broken like he was before?
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>>174414862
Why do people always bitch about this? He has, unarguably, the best defense in the game. Why should he have a great offense too?
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>>174414904
>Only way to stop it is to know exactly when the Conq is going to dash
how can dash be real nigga just dodge nigga haha
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>>174414993
>unarguably
God damn I wish I had your copy of For Honor where Warlord doesn't exist
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>>174414995
>you've just been guardbroken
Well gee buddy, thanks for the advice!

>>174415015
Warlord doesn't have superior block on heavies though. The only difference is that if Warlord parries an attack he's going to drag your ass across the map.
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>>174415065
If Conq does a dash into a gb there's a significant amount of time for you to react to it because pressing dodge + gb is how Conq does sb

Like seriously it's a good 1000ms at least for the game to not recognise the gb input as sb after a dodge

and it's entirely techable

???????
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>>174414418

>decide to start offense
>after weighing up your options, you go for a bash, it being the only one you have
>youre playing against any assassin at all, they spin half way across the map and end up behind your back as the bash ends, you eat a light
>youre playing against shug, the bash does nothing but cost you stamina and get you hit or GB'd, or the shugo runs off and starts oni charging
>you play anyone else at all, they dodge and GB you, hit you with a 30-40 damage heavy
>maybe the bash hits and maybe the follow up light conects, congrats, you just did 15 damage

with conq now you must hit your bashes 2-3, or maybe 4 times as often as the opponent dodges and gets a punish to outpace them for damage

>>174414904
give him back the ability to either do one of these three things after missing a bash: attack, GB, or guard. taking away all three was a fucking retarded move

>>174415065
superior block on heavy never works. it attacks slowly into the same direction you just had to block. it trades 0 damage to you, for 1 or 2 chip damage to your opponent and the timing of it isnt even worth risking
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>>174415175
I don't think you understand the concept of a mixup.
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>>174414678
>>174414642
not an argument ;^)
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>when you light attack after shove as LB
I can't wait until it's actually guaranteed
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>>174414904
Just let the conw dash bash you if he attacks you while you are on the ground you get a free gb
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>>174415280
I wish I saved my hatemail
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>>174415387
Never too late to start
>Beat the same guy three times in a row in elimination
>First two rounds ledged him
>Final round played it clean, beat him fairly
>Refused him a rematch because I was playing with friends
>Get this
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>>174415256
>decide to start offense
>with the most turtle character in the game
WHOA

>give him back the ability to make his mixups even stronger and safer
>defensive character
WHOA

>superior block on heavy never works
>except when it gives you a guaranteed guard break
WHOA
>>
Fresh webm
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>>174415624
>XxScOpEzX310xX (Kevin)
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>>174415741
>Warden
>reddit emblem
>literally nothing webm
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>>174415775
>The name I want is taken
>Should I think of a new one?
>Nah, let's just throw in random numbers, letters, and caps
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>Pick my rep 1 Shug for elimination
>Enemy team has 3 high rep Wardens with maxed out gear
>Game boils down to 1v3
>Waddle my fat ass over to the only revivable body on my team
>All three Wardens are emoting on the body
>Notice an attack buff behind them
>Charge past them all and grab the buff
>Start fighting them, pop revenge and kill two of them at once with an unblockable
>Finish off the last one
>IMMEDIATELY get hatemail because I grabbed a buff before fighting all three of them at once
I fucking love the whole "Yeah you just beat my entire team, but I'm better than you!" attitude they always have
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>>174415803
>Warden
I decided to level Warden when tehy added that ornament.
>reddit emblem
>St. George's Cross.
>The representation of the Warrior Saint himself.
>reddit
Fuck you
>literally nothing webm
I enjoyed his salt.
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>>174415719
>>174415719
>>superior block on heavy never works
>>except when it gives you a guaranteed guard break
>WHOA

my bad, i thought you meant how conq's own heavies have block on start up. superior block vs heavy for conq is a nothing. no class in the game starts its offense with heavy attacks, anyone that does this is a shitter who would lose to a bot playing prepatch LB

>decide to start offense
>with the most turtle character in the game
>WHOA

teach me how to win games without doing damage senpai, pls. in my 15 reps as conq and getting into the top 0.1% of conq players, i still havent figured it out. teach me senpai!

>give him back the ability to make his mixups even stronger and safer
>defensive character
>WHOA

i really dont see the problem in being able to negate at least one type of punish after a missed bash.


his fullguard is useless now too btw. to say hes the best class defensively is a joke. he has shit rewards from strong defensive play. his parries are trash and he has no ripostes, or stuning attacks, or DoT attacks to allow him to retreat to any effect, his running speed is among the slowest in the game, and he needs to dash to start up what must be the shittiest and most unsafe running bash in the game, which is his only knockdown move.

b-b-b-b-but he blocks heavies! wow big fucking deal. good players only use heavies in safe states - off GB, wallsplat, knock down etc. he has something like 4 or 5 states where he cant CGB himself. and his own heavy is the weakest in the game

hes a bad character. he was never that good. he was always 1 dimensional and lost to 4 other characters out of 12. now hes 0 dimensional and loses to everyone
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Another roach sent into the shadow realm
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>>174416208
Are you talking about Conqueror from a duel perspective
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>>174416287

obviously. the game is balanced around 1v1 and duel and to a lesser extent brawl are the only good modes.

4v4 modes are stupid fucking garbage, they rarely even finish due to 8 way p2p connections. gear score, lag, revenge builds and all that shit just ruin it even more
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>warlord dies
>get up again fullhp
>ask how
>lol u salty
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>>174416278
I think I played with you earlier. Didn't you bitch about honor when I ledged you?
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>>174416365
And that's where I stopped caring about your opinion. This game is OBJECTIVELY poorly designed for 1v1 gameplay. Nothing they do balance wise can change the fundamental problems with the game.
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>>174416434
>feats a cancer
what else is new
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>>174416448
That wasnt me i play on ps4
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>>174416542
no.
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>>174416660
there is a feat that let warlord revive by his own?
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>>174416542

if its designed poorly for 1v1 its designed even worse for 4v4

>8 way p2p connection in a game that requires sub 400ms reaction times
>revenge builds
>feats that insta kill you from off screen, cant be blocked or dodged
>one person quits and the whole game falls apart

i could go on, the point is, your opinion is shit. the devs balance the game around 1v1, based on playing 1v1, based on the opinion and feedback of 1v1 players, based on stats and metrics from duel

any proper discussion around balance has to be based in 1v1 play regardless of your opinion on it
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>>174416542
>the game is balanced around 1v1
Some people actually believe this
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Rate muh old lawbro.
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>>174416762
From 1v1 data it's just way easier to see which heroes are a lot weaker than others. Nothing changes the fact that the game's 1v1 is bullshit and ubi gives no fuck about competitive play anyway because most duel maps are 90% ledges.
And you can't really count shit connection into game design like you just did.
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>>174416752
yes
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>>174416542
This. Coming form fighting games, where they live and die based on their balance, there are so many mistakes here that would make this game laughable if anyone pretended it was anything other than non-competitive. The risk reward system is completely fucked up, environmental hazards are beyond smash-tier bad and feats that can take off 75%
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>>174406393

Raider is top fun, hes all about mind games

Hits like a truck too and has the most damaging combo in the game
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>fight dude in duel
>he's pk
>i'm warden
>he loses 3 matches in a row
>wins the fourth
>"U LOSE"
>I say "yeah? and?"
>he leaves
im confused, what happened?
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>>174407147

Not true

Light light sweep
heavy cancel bash sweep
heavy cancel bash light sweep

Retreat bash sweep

Any of these bashs can be followed with gb too

Shes actually a very fun character
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Conq gets a free heavy after blocking Roach zone? Noice
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>>174417145

>feats

there needs to a separate /fhg/ for shitters that ever bring up 4v4 modes or gear stat/feat mechanics
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>>174417465
Nah, there needs to be a separate place for retards that actually take its 1v1 seriously and thinks it's important
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>gets parried to death
>says this
thinking emote
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>>174417526

>makes a post to start talking about FH in terms of its competitive viability
>compares it to traditional fighters
>drags smash into it, but only the stage hazards in tourney illegal stages
>brings up FH mechanics that only exist in 8 player modes, again while comparing FH to 1v1 traditional fighters
>gets called retarded
>lol 1v1 is gay anyway

are you a professional retard?

>>174417092
>And you can't really count shit connection into game design like you just did.

>design an online game that requires sub 400ms reaction times
>give it an 8 player mode
>make it have p2p connections

THATS NOT THE DESIGNERS FAULT THO
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>Find renown 5 orochi who does nothing but flicker zone and top light
>beat him with lawbringer
>get him exhausted and throw him
>as usual he doesn't fall
>throw him into geyser because i'm not dealing with it
>die to him because he doesn't fall again while I was exhausted
>Spams emote like crazy
>Beat him and he instantly wants to battle again
>Sure okay
>He votes the map with no environment traps
>He picks renown 2 warlord
>All he does is head butt spam and zone
>beats me once during the match because all he did was headbutt spam
>he of course does the teabag emote spam
>beat him because he doesn't know that my top light beats his headbutt
>Get this
For honor has the most autistic players.
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>>174417709
>There is only one other poster on /fhg/
Almost maybe, but the post you just replied to was my first one regarding that and it was also true. How can anyone take this game's 1v1 seriously? It's only slightly above Souls PvP.
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>>174417838
>It's only slightly above Souls PvP.
Ok hold on now let's not say things we're gonna regret in the morning
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>>174417709
You want dedicated servers for a game that requires 400ms reaction times? The lag will be worse than it is now. Connection interrupts are annoying but the lag you would have without p2p connection would make you even more mad.
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>>174416991
Nightmare/10
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>>174417924
p2p is fine for duel, every 1v1 game ever has been fine with p2p, whether its smash, quake, traditional fighters, racing games or whatever. in 4v4 its a disaster though.
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>dude leaves
>suddenly lag
>returning to menu
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>>174417969
I-is that a good rating my dude?
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>>174418613
I was just referencing the weapon and Nightmare/Soul Edge
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anyone got a website that show the gears stats of armour/weapons?

i need to know if there's a zerk weapon withdefault stam reduction and a boost small to attack or defence
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>>174418807
Oh I see it now
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>>174418807
Christ were they on a bad trip when they designed him?
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A rep 12 Warlord said he'd teach me a thing or two about warlords but I forgot his name and I lagged out of the match. If you're that guy give me a bell
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Wait, IS THIS FINALLY THE PATCH
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>>174419483
Yes
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>>174419574
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>>174412464
This is a terrible idea
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>>174419712

caestus tard detected
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>>174412464

Im glad people like you dont make video games
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>everyone I don't like is a caestustard / scutumfag!
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>>174412464
>Guys lets make literally THE most annoying character to fight
There's a reason you'll never be in charge of things like this
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>>174419029
Soul Calibur was a Japanese fighting game with a rather unique character style. Soul Calibur was a fancy light blue/crystal sword and Soul Edge was red and fleshy with one or more eyeballs. There was a canon wielder of Soul Edge and Soul Calibur, but every character had a Soul Calibur/Soul Edge variant of their weapons when you beat the game with them.

I miss Soul Calibur
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>>174420150
>unique
Yeah that's one word for it.
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>>174412464
>>174419876
Why in the fuck would you want this? It is almost guaranteed to be a character on his own, and you want to fuck up an actually interesting and unique character instead?
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>>174420205
>posting nazis
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>>174420396
you're right, I should be posting notorious nazbol leaders
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>>174419960
>>174420021


well what about this idea for a new samurai character

so hes this huge morbidly obese guy with practically no armor and a limp mohawk, and he wears a pig mask. thats his design. oh and nipple tassels. like a stripper you know? his executions involve sitting on people and hitting them with his big fat belly which he then pats because hes a funny le fat meme man

his kit is that he gets super armor all the time with no input from the player and it negates all stun, bashes and knock downs

his lights confirm into a headbutt that does shit loads of stamina damage

he can run around and knock people over that are nowhere near him and this gives him a free heavy attack if it doesnt knock them off stage. he can do this infinitely and its 100% safe

if he gets a GB, which can do as a safe mix up from the aforementioned running attack, he can knock you a mile away like a baseball which does about 40 damage, or throw you into a wall and break your back which gives him loads of extra HP, or kills you in one hit if he has low HP.

he also has the highest hp in the game, because hes so fat you see. getting stabbed into the fat doesnt hurt as much as a healthy person being stabbed


sounds good right? only AAA developers usually come up with shit this good. you guys can have that one for free. pass it onto ubi if you want :^)
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>>174412464
Sorry, that is an awful idea anon
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>>174420476
yo calm down anon
yo anon stop
chill
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This is what I should be doing as a warlord, right? Defense and shit?
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>>174420472
That's better
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>>174420656
Don't worry too much about gear until it's purple.
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>>174420656

Kinda
My Rep5 Warlord goes full Att and Def and has shit stamina, it's rarely a problem though
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>>174420738
When does that happen?
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>>174420476
>getting stabbed into the fat doesnt hurt as much as a healthy person being stabbed
This is actually true. There's nothing important to be hurt in fat.
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>>174420796
Rep 3.
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>>174420823
It still hurts tho man
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>>174420796
Rep 3+
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>>174420856
>>174420917
Fuck my dudes that seems like months away
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>>174420857
It doesn't. Even the nerves are less dense/sensitive. Fat is as close to lifeless flesh you can get
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>>174420946
Assuming you're a normal human being with a life and a job, it probably is.
But if you were you probably wouldn't be here
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>>174421220
Look man I got replaced by robots at work give me a break, ok?
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>>174420476
>Being this assblasted that strangers online didn't like your shitty idea
Top laugh
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Am I doing OK so far?
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Have they actually addressed soft cancelling/feinting? Only way I open up higher level players as kensei is with GB cancels
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>>174421409

No
But your k/d doesn't mean shit in this game anyway because bots count as well and you can ragequit whenever you want, which will keep your results from being saved
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>>174421846
Oh.
Then why does it even keep track of k/d if that's the case?
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>>174421361

i not even mad. its not a perfect idea, its not even a great idea, but at least half the characters in FH are bad ideas and a third of them are broken or based on poor concepts

like the aforementioned shugo
the nobu and valk - fights out of a formation with a spear, uses sweeping motions and slashing attacks as well as one handed piercing attacks at the full length of the weapon from a ballerina stance
the orochi - we already have a samurai, what else can we do? maybe a skinny samurai? awesome
PK and Zerk - dual wielding meme
raider - bone wearing, great axe wielding hulk, unarmored hulk

etc etc

the only characters that are conceptually solid are conq, law, warden, warlord and kensei and 4 of those 5 were, still are, or are about to become OP as fuck.

its not like my bad idea was up against particularly strong competition from ubisoft, or any others ideas at all from this thread
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>>174421886
>i not even mad
>types out multiple posts consisting of multiple paragraphs
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>>174421879

Dunno, maybe they wanted to create somewhat of an illusion that it's a competitive game
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>>174421969

i'm at work. i have nothing better to do. youre clearly as invested into keeping up with the topic as i am, whats your excuse?
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>>174422072
>Typing two lines to call your idea retarded is the same thing as paragraphs defending it
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>>174422072
>youre clearly as invested
buddy please
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>>174422072
Get a better job where you aren't bored
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I'm trying to learn Raider but need help. What am I actually guaranteed after a guardbreak/parry?

One video says I don't get anything, another says I get a side heavy.
>>
they nerfed revenge too hard
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>Go against a Lawbringer or Valkyrie
>They're using any ornaments except the ones for beating the game on Realistic

How can people have such shit taste? They are literally the only two good ornaments in the fucking game.
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>>174422358
zone attack or a light of of gb
and side heavy out of a light parry
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>>174422826
The axehead is a very good ornament for LB
But yeah all the others are pretty crap
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>>174423317
>>174422826
I'm thinking of buying the new dragon ornament for law, or the old snake dragon one
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>>174423585
Don't
It's crap
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>>174421879
design oversite. good on the devs for realizing that people care about their stats. Bad on them to make a system where you can simply leave before a loss is calculated on your profile. In addition to mm being completely fucked. It sometimes matches me against complete noobs who don't know how to parry or tech gbs.
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I cannot wait until they fix light after shove on Lawbringer, Orochi is super bullshit without it
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>>174414370
>>anime poster
You're probably that faggot on /r6g/ who whines about posting anime on 4chan.
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Old news to you PC players but, Lawbringer is cancer now? He seems unstoppable on consoles now
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>>174424721
That's not even his final form, wait until his shove light is 100% confirmed unless you dodge which opens you up to a 50/50 because that was Ubi's intention and will be patched in next week
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>>174424721
>tfw was waiting for console patch to play but im fucking busy for like 2 weeks straight

fucking kill me
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>>174425007

>Remove conq from the meta after reddit cries too hard
>Replace him less than a month later with a character with the same shit, but much worse since he has combos and high damage and super armor moves and unblockables and higher hp and two command grabs that change positions and lead to a guaranteed heavy or drags you half way across the map and either ledges you or leads to top heavy if you hit a wall

Damn. Ubisoft are so legit. Top notch devs
>>
Is it too late to get back into the game? I bought it 2 weeks after launch but stopped playing due to a mix of reasons mainly due to ubi's shitty matchmaking and I'm essentially still a new player. I keep getting matched with people tripple my skill level and I always lose.
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>>174401305
>Hero videos state that then Kensei are Warrior Generals/Commanders
>General Tozen is a goddamn Orochi
>Seijuro is an Orochi
>THE EMPEROR'S CHAMPION
>Meanwhile killing Kensei by the handful in campaign

Every Kensei in campaign should be a roach and vice versa.
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>>174425384

I like to remind you lawfags in this General were saying the "the buffs suck"
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>>174425615
Ask someone to mentor you?

What platform, what region, what character?
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>>174425615
It's either now or never. Pretty much everyone playing is dedicated players who are at least somewhat skilled
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>>174425672
The buffs they announced suck
The guaranteed lights after shove was never so much as hinted to
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I really dont understand people who say fighting Orochi is easy

Maybe its because I play on PS4, but guarding top or right for his zone is literally just a guess, its unreactable.
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>>174425690
Pc, Oceania and I've been playing Orukai
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>>174425816
Fighting Orochi is easy. Fighting a Roach that knows to abuse his flicker nonstop is pure fucking suffering
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>>174425672
They do now, but when ubi fix it to be in line with their original vision, along with nerfs to shugo, PK and warden, law will shoot straight to the top

Even conq's "mixup" required him to step in, wait until pressing GB no longer did a bash and then try grab someone. Law will have an instant input for either GB or attack

Only raider will stand a chance Vs him
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>>174425816
I can react most of the time to it.

If you absolutely can't react, then guard top, as getting hit by a top would be more damaging than getting hit by a zone.
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>>174425615
(You) ing myself here. Is there a way I can completley scrap all my progress without buying a smurf? Reading the OP beginners guide, I've done alot wrong.
>>
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>>174425816

Earlier today when playing Conq, I accidentally discovered that I can GB a roach after blocking his ZA, is that new? Didn't play Conq in a while.
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Finally have access to the patch. Maybe law will be a little better.

Was there no weekly content this week?
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>>174420150
>>174420205
Unique is pretty much the only way to say it nicely...
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>>174427256
Don't talk shit about my nigga Voldo
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>>174425615
Play against npc for a few hours. Set up a custom match with some lvl 3 bots. It won't make you better than the normal player but it'll teach you the mechanics you need to know.
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>Oh hey daily challenge is for 3 games of brawl, that should be good
>First game I get someone trying out a character for the first time
Why the fuck do people do this shit? He couldn't get a single fucking kill
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>>174427256
>>174427494
>>174420150

S T E P A S I D E
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>>174427548
>reeeeeee why do people play the game
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>>174425876
Cant the 50/50 just be ignored by characters with a sidestep attack?
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>decide i will turn on for honor today
>20 minutes
>still not a single game played
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>>174427584
UDIYA!
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>>174427584
>>174428016
>>174427256
is for honor where all the 3d fighting game fags went to?
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>>174428068
not like they had anywhere else to go
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>Only the duel order left
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>>174428068

The 3D fighting community IS for honor
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>Hyper armor during revenge is gone
Who decided this was a good idea? Now there's literally nothing you can do during a gank
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>>174428273
At least you can queue for it. Skirmish/Elim are unplayable during twilight hours.
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>>174428609
Just parry
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>>174427584

Can a female centurion be my new short sword waifu?
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>>174428750
During a gank with three people spamming lights and GBs?
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>>174428609
Is it though? I hit people in revenge all the time and they don't stagger and sometimes they do.
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>>174428857
Just parry
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>Load into elimination
>Have a teammate who refuses to revive people or help them when they signal for help
>Quit
I hope the match crashed on them
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>Berserker nearly 2 shots me in Elimination because he starts the fight by throwing a bomb and hitting me with a throwing axe

100% skill
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>>174380774

All of those are shit.

Don't tell me you actually play with those, where other people can see them.
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Why do people bother wasting steel on 108 gear level?
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>>174430060
>wasting steel
What else are you going to spend it on? Shitty ornaments or shitty outfits?
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>>174430060
It's the only thing that makes a diffrence.
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>Play elimination on console now that we have the buff
>Enemy Roach runs away from me first fucking round
>There's no buffs for him, he's just circling around the map as I chase him and impale him, just for him to run again
>Buffs spawn and he tries grabbing one
>Buffs take longer to get and he can't get one before I knock him out
>He runs every single round and ends up with 0 kills because he can't run and stack buffs
I fucking love this update so far
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>>174430060
Because it does something, while your shitty customization doesn't do anything.
And I can afford both
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>>174430148
emotes and executions
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>>174430060
>Have three characters decked out in 108 gear
>Bought one mythic outfit
>Still have 25k steel
I play a lot
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>>174430060
Because purple gear looks miles better than blie gear sometimes

The purple Nobushi weapons are fucking beautiful, and I just hit Rep 3 on her.
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Anybody have a bug with chat? I can't see any messages at all sometimes. It just randomly happens from time to time.
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>>174430458
>>174430391
>>174430148
>>174430060

Any news yet on how much steel the new characters will be?
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>>174431030
25k at the most if they follow siege, but we really have no idea yet.
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>>174431030
As far as anyone knows they will be free to play, but unlocking customization options are still up in the air.

I'm going out on a limb and saying instead of 500 it's gonna be 1500
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>>174431101
for what reason would they have to charge for these characters getting released?
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>>174431101
it's not gonna be 25k, in siege you get 400+ in-game credits per win but in for honor you only get 40
>>174431030
5-10k
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>>174431101
>>174431153

Siege does not have the same currency like for honor.Siege has ingame currency and premium currency with the new operators costing 25k ingame while costing 600 premium currency.

Now thats basically $1=100 currency so like $6. Which might equal in for honor terms like 6k steel? Maybe 7k.

The ONLY way people will be okay with them costing like 20k steel or something is if they let use play the heroes even without buying them like the base game
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>>174431273
To encourage season pass sales. Just be grateful that it's dlc that can be unlocked with in game money and not locked behind a paywall
>>174431307
25k is a worst case scenario. I'm expecting 15k though, considering some emotes and oranments cost 7k
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>>174409374

both are reactable.
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Alright I have a Rep 10 Kensei, Rep 3 Warden and Rep 3 Nobushi

I think it's time for an assassin

4 decides which one
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>>174432062
Fuck assassins, play Law and wait for ninja
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>>174431537
>>174431378
>>174431307

I feel like all your estimates are on the low side. I'm expecting 40k steel minimum. And i doubt you'll be able to play them without buying them

There would be no reason at all to buy the season pass if the new characters cost less than the amount of steel you can make in a few days casual play
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>>174432194
>I'm expecting 40k steel minimum
That's way too much, there's no way people wouldn't be fucking outraged at that
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>>174432194
I know ubisoft is bad but they handle siege pretty okayish

They made ALL the cosmetics in siege purchasable with in game currency and reduced the prices on everything
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>>174432194
Also there will almost definitely be season pass exclusive outfits for the new characters, like Siege has
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>>174432194
>40k
are you retarded? one character would then cost more than the actual season pass
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>>174432370
Not all, there are cosmetics that are paywall only in siege.
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>>174432062
Orochi.
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>>174432349
40k seems reasonable. If you mainly play 4v4 modes and grind out the contracts, you can get around 1-2k a day. I would be massively surprised if they release them for under 20k steel. 30-60k seems reasonable.
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>Save someone in elimination who was going to get killed
>Kill the guy who was hitting him, face a Warden who was there
>Warden ends up killing me and the guy I saved just fucking watches
>He lets the Warden pick up the guy I killed and they 1v1
HONORFAGS STAY THE FUCK OUT OF 4V4 REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174432194
>>174432658
have you ever looked at the steel exchange prices? 40k steel is basically the price of the fucking season pass, the game would die off instantly if you had to pay that much for each character, or even close to that amount. 5-10k per is the likely price, as it takes the average player about two weeks to get that, which is the same as buying a dlc character in r6 siege.
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>>174432772
I'm just going by what a F2P game would have. You WANT to massively overprice the characters. The players who autistically grind and don't buy the pass will say it's fine, and the players who buy the pass get gigantic perceived value out of each released character.
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>>174386184
Thanks
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>>174432904

You are an idiot

A single character is fucking $40

Not even F2P games do this
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>>174432904
you know this game isn't free to play right?
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>>174433048
It's not 40 dollars, it's virtual currency, so it's okay. Hey, if you don't like it, buy the season pass.
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>>174432521
Do you think ubisoft considers your time or your impotent butthurt to be more important than the money and support of the people who buy steel and season passes with real life currency?

If ubisoft gave a shit about your rage or you having a good time they wouldn't announce simple fixes to major issues like he shugo 50/50 and then blue balls you with it for 2 or more fucking weeks
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>>174432904
this isn't a f2p game though. What you have to do is compare it to another game ubisoft released, r6 siege. They want people to buy the season pass but they don't want it to be outrageous. In siege every dlc character translates to being around 5-10$, and as such they make it so you can grind the characters if you play for a few weeks, or you can buy them. They'll do the same here. 30k-60k steel is 20-50 dollars, theres no compromise there. Especially since the season pass is 40$.
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>>174432772
Wow. I must be making cash at about 8 times the speed of the average player even tho i only play duel and brawl and only do the easy orders that suit the one character i actually play
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>Decide to play elimination
>Get matched with people who can't get a single fucking kill
>Revive them all at least once and they still never get a kill
Is it wrong to quit in these scenarios? I fucking hate getting paired with a team of retards and having every round turn into a 1v3
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>>174433139
>this isn't a f2p game though

>Have to grind days to unlock cosmetics
>Can only realistically "main" two or three characters by design
>Have to unlock characters using virtual currency
>P2P matchmaking

It's a F2P game a few hundred thousand people got scammed into buying for 40 to 80 bucks.

>>174433128
This. They have a far bigger "obligation" to their season pass customers than to everyone else.
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>>174433376
you're missing the point, so its going to be cute when you're completely silent in a week when they reveal it to be 10k steel per character.
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>>174433128
having one character cost more than the season pass would cause outrage
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>>174433376

I understand ubisoft is shit.

but your making them out as to much of as a bad guy the shit your saying is insane even for a F2P game
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>>174433453
Then buy the season pass, goyim. What, you don't wanna grind? Look how much value you get! Six characters, each worth $20-$50 in Steel, all for the price of the season pass! Fucking amazing!
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>>174433448
>You're gonna be so fucking butthurt when you get way better value than you thought!

Yeah that makes sense. I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like you're gonna the one who gets upset when they announce the prices for non season pass holders
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>IF you have a shit team, every single one of them is shit
How and why
>>
hey guys let's give warden the most damaging attack in the game
and let's also give him a move that's so safe it puts a character designed completely around defending to shame
btw let's give him two lightning fast attacks that are just barely reactable too
did I mention he also has one of the best throw ranges in the game lol
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>>174433376
>>174433128
You guys don't understand marketing at all. They want you to buy steel packs, and they want you to buy the season pass. This is why things are priced the way they are, where big ornaments, lootboxes, etc, quickly drain you, but aren't extremely expensive. This is also going to be the same with heroes. The casual audience is more likely to purchase a season pass or steel packs because their playtime is low, compared to a more dedicated gamer, who will probably not even purchase the season pass, at least not initially. This is why you grab them with hero costs, making it middle of the line, so that it gets them to want to buy the season pass, but not too much that they feel forced to buy it, and just give up.
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>>174433571
>>174433583

but F2P games are not even that insane I dont get where this 40k steel comes from
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>>174433571
you're honestly delusional if you think that one DLC character would cost £20-£50 in steel
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>>174433889
>>174433864

>There are people in this very thread who believe that entirely new characters will cost 5k, while hideous character specific ornaments and effects that any player with aesthetic taste disables cost like 8k

You guys are some funny ass niggas
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>>174434067

Thats the reason

Characters might not cost alot but it costs alot to spruce them up with cosmetics and gear items
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What's the price of in game money/time spent playing to buy news characters in street fighter 5? I know it's 100k fight money, but after doing story mode, how fast can you get fight money from just playing the game?
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>>174433889
>>174433945
I am kinda basing my estimates off the Starter Edition (scam edition) of Rainbow Six: Siege, and also the prices of the ornaments and cosmetics. If a mythic outfit costs something like 12.5k per outfit, or 45k for outfitting your whole faction, is it really so ridiculous to think a single character might be 30-60k Steel? It's 15 hours of gameplay to unlock a single Operator in Siege's Starter Edition.
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>>174434067
what? that has nothing to do with anything. In rainbow 6 siege, dlc characters cost 25k renown. There are cosmetics that cost 30k renown. These same characters cost 600 r6 credits each, which translates to 5$. I'm literally taking this from the game by the same company that they released a year ago.
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>can parry well
>as soon as a russian joins i cant

NICE
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https://clips.twitch.tv
/TenaciousFantasticClipsmomFUNgineer

He's not wrong
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>>174434318
>basing it off the starter edition
so you're retarded
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>>174434318
it is ridiculous, because you're literally basing it off the scam starter edition instead of the normal edition, where >>174434341 is the actual rates. And they don't even let you purchase renown in that game directly, like you can with steel, which would lessen the value of renown even more. They say a dlc character in r6 siege will take around 25 hours of play to get, which is around 5-10k steel in for honor.
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>>174403556
Pride, I want to at least get above average. More rewarding imo.
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>>174434412
This is why i said earlier that despite being a douche, I hate his voice and his style of streaming, that truetalent is the closest thing to our guy. He's honest and fair in his assessment of the characters and the game as a whole with its flaws and merits. He plays the game in an honest way with an honest character

I've watched him stream other games tho, and it's unwatchable
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>>174403610
people play to do both
beating people with the literal who shit character is going to be a lot more rewarding for them, as well as they get more street cred
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Lawbringer was hidden nerfed,

Can't land a heavy off of shove in revenge mode without dashing forwards. This means you can;t get the unblockable unless you wiff the heavy.
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>>174434861
>truetalent
lolno
hes a dumbass, said kensei was just "underrated" and thinks zerk is op
if anything hes a fucking idiot
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>>174435261
This was always the case, it was never guaranteed
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>>174434318
How is ubisoft allowed to get away with this? Who buys these things thinking "i like getting treated like this" or "i think this is good value for money"

This is the first ubisoft game I've bought since AC1. Ubisoft was literally /ourguys/ for a short while but they just...
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>>174435396
I could always Shove>heavy>heavy in revenge mode
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>>174434861

I agree. I first watched Tru3 when he was fighting against Mege (A warden main youtuber) and never said "Good Fight" or showed any duelist etiquette at all. I dismissed him as an egotist and an asshole.

But after watching him more, he at least cares about the health of the game and says reasonable things.
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>>174434412
he is tho
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>>174375437
>centurion
>not even primvs pilvs
>no shield
>no horse hair ornament

JUST
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Warden vs Anyone Else is kind of boring to watch, but Warden vs Warden is pretty fun. It's very active. Nobody can turtle.
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>>174375437
>centurion
>legion comander

wat
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>>174435449
ubisoft can get away with the starter edition because its made for neet losers. People who 'main' a couple of characters and thats it. I know they'll do a for honor one as well. 10-15$ and any non-vanguards take 10k steel to unlock, they'll make a killing off of it.
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>>174435760
Centurions were so named because they were the leaders of at least 100 men

To say they lead a legion is a bit of a stretch but still, it's a fitting enough title
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>>174435470
It was not guaranteed
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>>174433376

There is nothing wrong with grinding for days to unlock shit. It's not really grinding because you're playing the game you unlock things that have no effect on gameplay. The center of it all is playing the game. If you call playing the game "grinding" then you shouldn't be fucking playing.
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>>174435506
>Duelist etiquette
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>Warden can cancel shoulder to GB
>Can connect two attacks after
>Can tech a GB if the shoulder is dodged and not canceled

>Warlord and Conq can't do any of these
>A properly timed dodge solves 100% of the bashes in your favor unless in a corner

Dunno how valk's shield and "GET REKT NERD" compares to the three, but sheesh.
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>>174436079
Shove side heavy side heavy was garunteed in revenge pre patch.
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>>174436608
Valk's sweep isn't that hard to dodge as most characters, though the timing is extremely strict as heavies. Plus, it can be hard-punished and requires you to land hits before hand.
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>>174436608
warden cant tech gbs if timed well, git better
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mfw consolefag
mfw kensei buffs
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>>174436632
No
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warden fights are fun, it's over quickly with no bullshit

>tfw the first guy i meet after some week break rage quits on the last round
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revives need to be nerfed
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>>174438828
so the new meta is the revive meta?
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>>174438663
>No bullshit
>Uses shoulder bash 4 times in 10 seconds
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>>174438663
cancer
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>>174439073
How is that bullshit in a mirror match?
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>>174438375
the law buffs are bretty gud
seem to be hitting people with the swift justice finisher alot more
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>>174439073
>>174439190

>implying shoulder bash is bullshit
you must get better
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>>174439373
>Watch he spam a move almost every two seconds
>W-what do you mean that's bullshit?
>>174439637
Enjoy the nerf
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>>174439790
i will when it will be nothing ;^)
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>>174439790
>Didn't even respond to the question at all, just s-stuttered in response

So you concede that it's not bullshit in a mirror match then? Both players have the same tools available, neither one is disadvantaged.
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>>174439939
>How is it bullshit that I spammed a move nonstop, didn't you know in a mirror match that's okay?
Yes both players can do it, but I only see one nonstop spamming the shoulder like a goddamn crutch
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>>174440001
>one player plays his hero worse
>that player loses

What's wrong about this? It's like getting mad over a PK mirror because the losing PK only uses heavies.
>>
is there anything else to orochi than top light, zone and storm rush? all other attacks seem shit
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>>174440001
>crutch
>everything else is parried and heavily punished

snoflake mains pls stop, your char is trash, deal with it
don't try to bring everyone to your trash level
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>>174402370
activate tier 3 feat of small health regen, cancelling bleed and restoring most of my health I lost
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>>174440336
>I spammed more so I'm the better player!
I'm sure you also think Warlords who spam headbutt nonstop and parry GB are skilled
>>174440562
Warden nerf already confirmed, enjoy him while you can
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>>174441345
>>174439842
>>
>>174441345
>using the tools in your kit is unskilled if you do it more than an arbitrary X times per minute

If it works, it works. In a mirror match, it means the other player is objectively worse than you are, because they could do the same thing to you and win.
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>>174440562
>warden vortex is seen as imbalanced by the entire community minus some delusional retards
>to the point where it's getting nerfed
>this one guy in /fhg/ keeps insisting it's absolutely fine and easily countered
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>>174441659
>not by anyone that is good at the game
>entire community being reddit and some below average /fhg/ players
seems about right
>>
>"rolling out of Warden vortex costs 50% stamina and puts him at stamina advantage"

clips dot twitch dot tv slash BlatantAbstemiousSharkJonCarnage
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>>174441826
>has a unpunishable turtle opener
>no other character has anything like that
yep seems balanced
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>>174441826
>"I know better than everyone else!"
Have fun without your crutch next week
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>>174441826
>I know better than the devs who agreed it's overpowered!
>>
>All Daily Orders and Contract Orders can now be done in PvP and PvAI without distinction.
>Contract orders

So this doesn't work right? Or did they say contract orders by accident?
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>>174442998
wait for the orders to update
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>>174441987
>>174441993
>>174442098
screencapped, see you next week
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am i missing something or does zerk's side step light attack completely negate warden's 50/50?
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>>174443079
>updates tomorrow

fug
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>>174443401
You're missing the fact that a good warden will feint the bash to trick you into your silly spin, then parry and top heavy your ass for 1/3 of your maximum health
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>>174441659
>warden vortex is seen as imbalanced by the entire community

By the entire reddit community, you mean.
>>
>>174444016
You would know, mister reddit spacing
>>
>get for honor about a month ago
>play it daily for a few weeks
>eventually just turn it on to do daily orders and switch to some other game
>can't handle most gameplay due to my shit reaction times and awful imbalance
>genuinely leave sessions frustrated and not having had fun
>haven't played in several days
>no drive to go back in

Help me /fhg/
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>>174441826

>A 50/50 that leads into another 50/50 ad infinitum.
>But is not actually a 50/50 because they can cancel any time to react to anything you might do with no negative impact whatsoever
>Also cannot be punished on reaction
>And the punishment it does get is unreliable and weak at best
>Can be done in combo or from neutral
>With negligible stamina cost
>Unblockable and has hyper armor

Truly the Buddhist's pride and pinnacle of balance
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>>174444382
Either find a friend to practise your reaction time or quit. What system do you play on?
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>>174444976
half of the shit you posted is wrong tho
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>>174444382

Problem is when you leave for a couple days you get rusty real fast, guaranteeing you will have a bad time of you come in only for a bit.

Some of the most fun I have is catching crazy shit I pull off on film.
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>>174445085
what's wrong then?
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>>174444976
>But is not actually a 50/50 because they can cancel any time to react to anything you might do
False, the Warden has to predict your reaction. Warden players are not input reading robots.

>Can be done in combo or from neutral
False, it cannot be done from neutral, it needs a light attack OR a dodge, both of which can be punished.

>Unblockable and has hyper armor
Only the fully charged version has hyper armor, and this gets used far less frequently than a regular uncharged bash.
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>>174445085

Except it's not. It gets hyper armor not throughout the whole animation, but real quickly.
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>>174445147
has been posted countless times

refer to >>174445231
for a start
>>
>All these valks

What is it with this community that fucking love playing characters that are frustating to play against
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>>174445005
PS4, I'm afraid.

>>174445142
I suppose I just need to go back in and deal with it. Doesn't help I main Conq, who gets his shit pushed in by faster characters.
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>>174445548
That's every single competitive community in gaming history after the advent of online multiplayer overtook arcade/couch gaming.
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>>174445231
>False, the Warden has to predict your reaction. Warden players are not input reading robots

Wow you actually believe this. All you do is lift your finger and tap the button again when you see them dodge. OR just keep holding it down when you don't think you can catch the dodge with a GB and hit them when their dodge is done.

>False, it cannot be done from neutral, it needs a light attack OR a dodge, both of which can be punished.

Have you even seen the videos of high level play? They spam and cancel constantly. Yes it requires a dodge, but it doesn't have do go through the animation basically at all to start up the bash.

You can't believe this.
>>
Is it possible to play Warden or Warlord without abusing their obviously retarded kits?
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>>174445381

Except that dude is wrong. Tourney Wardens pull this off constantly. The animation cancel on dodge makes the charge basically come from neutral.
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>>174445231
>False, the Warden has to predict your reaction.
More like "throw out whatever they want, since they can't be punished anyway"
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>>174445671
>All you do is lift your finger and tap the button again when you see them dodge.
You've never played Warden, have you?
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>>174445957

I have a rep 6. It's difficult, but not impossible.
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>>174445785
Of course it's possible with Warden, but you'll lose most of your matches because Warden is basically a worse Orochi without le shoulder memes.

It's not possible with Warlord because you'd need to literally just stand there and let the enemy kill you.
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>>174436827
It only requires a hit (singular) to trigger. The first attack in the chain can be whiffed. Both are bullshit, but at least you can legitimately get good to overcome Valk. Warden is 50/50 at any skill level.
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>>174445908
>doesnt cancel charge
>gets top lighted
How is this possible i thought you could not punish it when guessed right?? all those players must be cheating!
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>>174436608
Warlord and Conq bashes are a lot faster than Warden's though. If you just take a hammer to it and remove the GB cancel, it will become unusably bad.
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>>174446290

A bunch of classes can't top light the charge.
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>>174445650
if you need to practice your reactions i'd gladly help
post PSN
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>months to get a 'balance' update
>a 'good' Warlord can still be 100% untouchable
>a 'good' Peacekeeper can still be 100% untouchable
What sort of mentally challenged tards work at Ubisoft? Do they just not know about these two?
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>switch to raider to complete an order
>get shit on all of dominion
>fuck it just want one execute to finish order
>get interrupted by valkyrie gangrape constantly
>finally pull off an execute in the middle of a gangrape, and even manage to kill another before getting daggered by a roach
>game crashes just as the match ends
Why do I even try leveling anything other than warden
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>>174446408
It doesn't have to be a top, it just has to be fast enough. There are only two different light speeds in the game (not counting PK second lights in a chain) and only 3 out of 12 classes lack at least one fast light.

One of the 3 is Shugoki who can kill Warden with Charge 50/50s anyway, shoulder bash vortex loses to it.
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Reminder to ledge all PKs.
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Tfw rep 9 lawman on console.
While they were playing pk and warlord I played the waiting game, and now they shall know of their misdeads as I bring the LAW
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>>174443401
Most side dodge attacks can counter their 50/50, but if you're facing a smart Warden then it's only going to work once. Fortunately the majority aren't very smart.
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>>174445908
>>174439637

i wonder if guessing right stops the shoulder?
wait what id does???!!! nonsence, it's unpunishable
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Fucking warlords man.
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>>174447313
Do it twice, and the third time just do an empty dodge and parry their parry attempt.
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>>174447368
>just guess right
So this is the power of Warden mains
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>be Nobushi
>vs defensive Shugoki
>have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING WAY TO BEAT HIM AT ALL
>DEAD IN THREE FUCKING HITS
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>>174447495
what part of the word "mixup" you don't understand?
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>>174447524
you can try light softcancel with hidden stance vs someone who is parry hungry, but welcom to turtle beats everything
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actual question: what was the reason behind the sprint speed nerf? it's not like they nerfed or buffed the sprint speed of indivdual chars but they nerfed it for everyone equally. how is that change anything, except make everybody slower? what am i missing?
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>>174447737
What part of "guessing doesn't involve any amount of skill by definition and therefore doesn't belong in a fighting game" do you not understand?
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>get called a griefer because i'm spamming feints in a 2v1
why are honourfags like this
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>>174447869
>mixups do not belong in fighting games

What the fuck am I reading.
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>>174447869
>doesn't belong in a fighting game
this is your 1st right?
because most fighting games have moves too fast to react to, so they are countered on prediction
pls git gud
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>>174447964
Vortex*
>>174448008
lmao
You have no idea what you're talking about
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>>174448064
>Vortex*
game does not have a vortex tho
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>>174448064
>3f jabs
>throws in general

Granted, most traditional fighting games have more involved footsies than For Honor; you don't react to the throw to counter it, you react to the opponent taking a sudden step forward to get in range for the throw.
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>>174359226 (You)
>>174361443 (You)
I like it.
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>>174448260
>throws are countered on prediction
Holy fuck this is who I'm arguing with
I'm done
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>>174446757
>why do I even try playing a 4v4 mode with this rage-quit-crash issue going on
ftfy
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>>174448506
Thanks for admitting you've never played a fighting game in your life.
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Why are Wardens the only ones incapable of accepting that they are OP? Every other class mains could. Deus Vult fags are retarded by nature but still, Conqs and PKs admitted it as well.
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>>174448962
Did you miss the Warlord shilling in this thread in the days leading up to the Headbutt nerf?

>Wow this game really has gone to reddit casuals, first they make fullblock useless and now they're gutting headbutt, Warlord will be trash tier

This sort of delusional shitposting was rampant.
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>>174448962

https://clips.twitch.tv
/BlatantAbstemiousSharkJonCarnage
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>>174448962
>taking anything Conqs and PKs says into consideration
i'm not even a warden main and i don't think it's op, no one at high level thinks its op
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>>174449138
D-delet this
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>>174449370
Should've used a Raider for the image.
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>>174449370
Reminder that wardens did just fine against kensei.
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>>174447867
I guess if everyone is slower then it's easier to get a hit on them when they run by you?
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>>174449571
>Nobushi is the Warden killer at higher skill tiers

Someone explain.
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>>174449862
very high damage
immune to vortex
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>>174449913
Immune how?
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>>174449862
>warden-killer
>52%
I think you have the two graphs mixed up.
Top is 21+
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>>174449976
short dashes
if timed right (at the very start of the dash animation)
she can tech gb cancel and punish raw shoulder
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>>174449978
You are reading the graph wrong, it's from left to right not top down
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so now the consoles have the patch when are they gonna drop the connection patch??
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>>174450345
Most probably on the next maintenance
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"Vortex"

If you can get out of it with a single move (rolling away) then it's not a vortex. A vortex in a fighting game is inescapable for its entire duration unless you use your special meter to break out of it. So you either wait to spend a valuable resource (your special) or you take the damage and escape when the combo finishes or they fuck up and give you enough frames to get out.

Rolling away for a bit of stamina that recharges by the time warden can get to you again is nothing compared to a real vortex.
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>>174450345
They've been doing connection and stability patches for the past several weeks. There is no one "silver bullet" patch, in their words; it's a gradual process.
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>>174450149
Anon, the top graph is of higher-skill players.
In the top graph (higher-skill players) Nobushi only has a 52% winrate against warden.
Nobu is only a warden-killer (with a 59% winrate) in lower-skill play, as shown in the second/bottom graph (lower-skilled players).
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>>174449978
>>174450743
Not my fault someone randomly decided to swap the top and bottom graphs for no reason even though it's been posted the other way around dozens of times.
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>>174450743
Sorry anon my bad i thought you meant warden has 52% against nobushi
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>>174450515
We don't have a special meter though.
Nor can the warden 'fuck up' and give us frames to get out- the timings are too loose for that.
So it's either reset to neutral or guess.
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>>174450891
I wanted to post it once a few threads back & didn't see it anywhere, so I just stitched it together from the two components I DID have.
It's still your fault for not reading what I wrote.
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>>174450941
It's not a real reset either because this assumes you're always gonna have space behind you when the Warden initiates the SB
Denying the fact that it leaves you at a stamina disadvantage is retarded. It's a very simple point:
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im fucking sick of seeing the parry animation BUT STILL GET HIT!
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>>174451081
Forgot the rest of my post.
It's a very simple point:
-initiating a shoulder bash and canceling it takes very little stamina
-rolling backwards, the supposed counter to this, takes half of your total stamina.
There's a very clear imbalance and this is already being addressed. People arguing in favor of Warden are retarded or trolling.
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>>174451081
>it leaves you at a stamina disadvantage
It does not.
>>174449138
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>>174451209
>-rolling backwards, the supposed counter to this, takes half of your total stamina.

see >>174449138

It literally fills up back to full by the time warden gets back to you.
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>>174451350
Not the point and not always the case.
Also Galahad is the person who argued Lawbringer didn't need any buffs, I admire him as a player but I don't trust him to speak for the playerbase
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>>174451475
>not always the case
Well, go ahead and explain this, and set down those goalposts for a moment.
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>>174386725
I actually like the mask.
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>>174451554
I already did, you don't always have a huge open space behind you.
Plus this doesn't matter anyway, you shouldn't have to cripple yourself to counter something that is risk free for the opponent.
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>>174451475
well what did the buff do for law but give him a confirmed light?
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>>174451789
Confirmed heavy if his opponent fucks up & eats a long-arm.
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>>174451789
It's not confirmed, it's a 50/50 for light or gb.
Still too weak from neutral.
Still too strong on guard.
Should trigger when you get hit instead of when you block.
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>>174451698
But we already just established that it doesn't cripple you in any way. You have full stamina by the time the distance is closed again.

You can also reposition during this time so your back won't be against a wall or ledge. A lot of players seem to think they're not allowed to move left and right in FH duels for some reason.
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>>174451968
You're just ignoring all my points, no use arguing with you
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>>174451968
Show me some top tier gameplay where people's response to bash is to roll away when they see it coming.
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>>174451698
>i was cornered but it's not my fault
your fault if you let yourself get push in a corner and even then you can interrupt the charge with a fast attack
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>>174452062
You're not making any points, you just keep going "doesn't matter" and ignoring proof that counters your weak arguments. It's the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalala".
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>>174452254
Show me some top tier gameplay (i.e. a tournament with money on the line) where people actually play as Warden and win.
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>>174452272
My points are very clear and the vortex is already getting nerfed anyway. I don't need to try to change your biased point of view
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>>174452448
stamina cost is a nerf?
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I probably messed something up but here you go you lazy fucks

>>174452705
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