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Imminent Ninjutsu edition

Previous Thread: >>174183662

>New V105 patch is out for PC/consoles waiting certification.
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-288027-16/release-notes-for-v105

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

**ATTENTION CONSOLE BROS**
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First for "Slay the Greenskin"
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Threadly reminder to preserve your winrate
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Why do you guys say Raider sucks? I've been trying him out and he seems to be fairly LEGENDARY
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>>174291020
Friendly reminder that if you do that you're a shit that can cease to exsist
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>>174291132
My man, did you even look at the image
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>>174290753
Witcher 3 mod that gives you Lawbringer's armor.

Just kidding.
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Is the first batch of dlc characters just going to be the roman, ninja, and highlander? For some reason I though there was going to be four
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Why are Nobushi honorfags so often
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>>174291386
Two. Six per year, three seasons per year.

Highlander has zero confirmation and could easily be a hoax.
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>>174291386
It's only two I'm pretty sure.
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>>174291625
Six per year? So wait, they're adding more than 6??
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>>174291779
depends. If its popular, they will probably do an r6 siege and make multiple years of content.
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>>174291831
Then by god we need a knight with a shield who isn't using a shitty flail
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>>174291779
That's the plan if it proves sustainable.
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Why are they so insufferable...
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>>174292659
Because their on reddit.
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so many ganks in 2v2 tonight


why are people being so gay?
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>getting ganked
>manage to bring the raider down to half health while parrying like mad
>he activates revenge and takes out 3/4 my health bar while I'm lying on the ground and his two friends kill me

well memed ubisoft
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>>174291248
minus law, I was giving you targets
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does conq have anything besides bash?

its boring using the same thing
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>>174293349
Have you tried bashing?
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>>174293406


i have gotten good at bashing ill have you know
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>>174293142
>Lawbringer
>not cancer
Not after this patch.
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>>174292862
>people playing a 2v2 brawl as a 2v2 brawl
>not as a le dark souls series of duels with spectators

You're the gay one here, sunbro.
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>>174293519

yeah because they dont 2v1 until a bot appears or its the lasty round and your on low hp

fuck honor XD
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Post shields
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>there's still no 4v4 mode without gear or feats
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>>174294126
If someone leaves is it proper courtesy to let the other team gang bang the bot then 1v1 you? And more so, if someone pops revenge or 2v1's in the 2v2 match, is it proper courtesy then to let the team without the infraction gang bang the perpetrator?
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What's that language that looks like Russian without cyrillic? Czech or something?
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>>174293507
>Still on console
>Ain't got no patch yet
>I think?
>Fuck
When does the patch even comes to consoles?

Still ready to jump to centurion though
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>>174293349
Superior block, that's about it.
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does orochi get free top light if he hits that running slash?
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>>174294337
I think you're in the wrong place friend.
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>have to play Dominion since it's the only mode to get a match quickly
>get matched up with my rep 0 team against an enemy team in golden raid gear all at least rep 3
>10 minutes of rape and revenge spamming occurs, complete with ganking out the ass and one teammate quitting, getting one shot by a feat whenever you manage to slow them down

I don't know why I fucking bother sometimes
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There better be two new heroes in 2 days (week early for season pass) or after this round or I'm going to be very sad
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>>174294289

it would be shit
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>>174294561
>not understanding irony
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>>174294723
Is it irony? Because I have played with several fags that do exactly that.
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>>174294638
There's a break period between seasons, you'll get your week early access then.
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>gear actually is actually a good idea
>ruined by Ubisoft's retarded match making that makes you fight golden murder machines while you're still in your starting gear

Really makes you think.
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>>174294875
Its pointing out that its arbitrary to even begin to construct rules around a game where chat is limited and rounds are short. I guess you need a high school diploma to see that though. ;)
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>>174291267
>slaying monsters with a poleaxe

if only
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What game mode is the best?
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>>174295718
Anything but SKirmish
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>>174295718

Brawl
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I just want to say something.

Warden is (almost) perfectly balanced.

All of HIS moves have a use, and he has approah options so you dont just sit there for 5 years in this defense meta. Maybe just a slight nerf to his bash and he'd be god teirly balanced. The problem is that the devs made characters that suck at the game they're in, and thats what needs changing, not Warden (mostly)
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>>174295421
I can't tell if you are being satirical because people unironically do that in-game.
It's like the assigned gender comics, I can't tell which ones are edited and which are originals because they are all so fucking ridiculous.
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>>174295960
Careful, you're going against the local narrative.
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>>174295718
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>>174295978
Your good man, and I understand. I'm just giving you shit. I tend to not 2v1 unless the time calls for it, and it completely depends on how i'm feeling. I know personally I get ass blasted mad if my team mate sucks so its another episode of "dealing with CC for 10 minutes" so I tend to let people fight there own fights.
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>>174295960
>b-but muh uncounterable vortex that isn't a real vortex!
>i-it just resets to neutral and takes half my stamina when it really only takes 1/3rd and recharges stupidly fast
>t-t-the warden can just do it again! I truly have no way to stop him from starting it up again because I don't do anything to try and go on the offensive!
>h-his top lights are too fast even though they're average!
>a-and the zone attack is too good even though you get a free gb on the warden on block!
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>>174294337
Literally every single person on PC does this. You console peasants saying this Ironically is fucking disgusting.
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>>174296323
>Shut down Wardens vortex with a light attack
>Now Warden is either canceling his shoulder to try to parry me, or just going full blown turtle to parry me
Playing against Wardens is no fun allowed. They literally don't know how to fight without their vortex, so they turtle up the instant you deny it to them
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How do you fight Nobushi as Warden? I can't get close enough to vortex and I can't grab off parries.
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>>174296879
My poor, poor friend. What can men do against such cuckoldery?
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>>174296896
Parry her lights, when you parry her heavies just do a light or zone. Also do the usual vortex shit.
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>>174296896
Warden gets top heavy off light parries.
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THREE
H
R
E
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Controllers and a monitor, that's what this game (fucking piece keepers) have cost me. Literally can't even play my xbox anymore
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>>174296890
What?!?!?! Warden initiated when you were doing nothing?!?!?!?!? THATS NOT ALLOWED! Also, on a more serious note, he needs either an attack or a dodge to start a vortex. Both are punishable.
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>>174296984
How is that cuckoldery? It's just implied honor rules and they're almost universally accepted. You see, in PC we don't suck so much ass that we have to gank our opponents so we adopted that kind of rules. Also femwarden is for faggots, kys.
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>>174297113
That is the same controller, only one broken controller has had pics posted here, the serial numbers match.
I'm squinting all the time so I can see the details.
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>>174297210
>universaly accepted
Dont listed to this fag, anon. Its split on pc, and i personally do whatever i feel like. People who isist on one side or another are complete cancer, and usualy weeb fatties.
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>>174296323

aye warden is balanced as fuck

just killed some rep 6 nobushi

wardens ww@
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While Wardens are to be reviled, I'd still rather fight Wardens for the rest of my life than fight a Warlord.

Headbutt nerf did nothing. Fighting a Warlord is still like one of those schoolyard make-believe fights where that one kid keeps going "Oh yeah, well my guy can also do THIS". Such a bloated fucking kit, holy shit.

They could split Warlord clean in half and produce two totally respectably powerful characters.
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>>174297376
Ill post pictures of the other 2 later I guess, one looks normal but the right bumper doesn't work at all, the other ive completely shattered the bumpers
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>>174294551
Yes, if it's done immediately
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>>174297210
>femwarden is for faggots
Its okay, I heard nobushi has the feminine penis you are looking for.
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>>174297734
I don't understand how you can get so mad to the point of breaking a controller.

I get more pissed off at this game than most other games, but I just quit and stop playing when it gets really bad. Yeah it's technically a ragequit but I'd prefer that over breaking something.
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>>174297113
>hair and dead skin everywhere
you're fucking disgusting
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>>174297210
If they make a point of saying it I am DEFINITELY not going to do it.
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What's the deal with parrying Zerks?
Sometimes I can GB, sometimes they are too far. What's the rule?
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So now that we are close, is there any actual word when we are getting new characters? Is it one week after season ends? Or right when it ends?
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scabbards/sheaths when
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>>174298689
Has the artist done one of these for Knights?
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>>174296890
That is how every character plays without their special gimmick
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>>174298828
Reverse image search you naive.
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>>174298828
only warden
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>>174296890
>Now Warden is playing like every other character in the game

Well... yeah.
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>>174294192
POST SHIELDS DAMNIT!
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>>174297914
Not that faggy anon but

Male warden > (fe)Male warden

Femwarden is a qt tho
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>>174299086
No
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>>174298572
Just do a side heavy, makes contact most of the time. Also if you parry the side dodge+light, its a free top heavy
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>>174299086
mine's shit
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>>174296890
>They literally don't know how to fight without their vortex,

thats becasue warden has nothing else
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>>174294192
Currently using the AdMech one
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What's up with the servers? I'm getting kicked out every match now.
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So im getting into Berserker

playing extremely aggressive is working to much
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>>174300532
Have fun until you win to the point that you get matched up with the turtle meta
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why is revenge still in 1v1 for fucks sake
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>>174299696
Welcome to the club.
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>>174294192
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>>174300678
Stop spamming lights at your opponent
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>>174300860

it was my last attack in a chain as valk
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lawfags are such fucking cancer

I cant believe people were saying his buffs were "to weak
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>>174300984
They WILL become true cancer once the next "fix" rolls out.
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>>174300860
What the fuck else are you supposed to do with the current meta? Im trying to be counter the defensive shit and besides random lights and heavies IDK how else to crack someone.

>use your shoulder bash
No
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>>174297734

Stop being a faggot and just slam your fist into your thigh repeatedly like me whenever you get mad
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>>174301225
>not using the only part of your kit that breaks turtles
>complains about turtles
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>>174294192
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>>174300969
>>174301225
Your opponent is getting rewarded for doing well defensively. Of course the game is flawed and is too defense oriented but thats not revenge's fault.
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>>174300984
>just want a buff theat makes him better in duels
>give him buffs that just piss people off

T-thanks UBI.
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>>174301225
Just use it anon, as long as you dont be a faggot and spam it its fine
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>>174301698
Isn't his shove 50/50 going to be gamechanging in duels?
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>>174301896
What? He just gets a light off of a shove now.
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Whoa Whoa

What the fuck how has no one noticed yet?

The colors that came with the game as a preorder bonus are missing
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>>174301858
i-if you say so
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>>174302020
you can dodge it, so it becomes a 50/50 if he will light or gb.
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>>174302356

Wait what

I thought they just changed them. They're gone completely?
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>>174302672
Yes.
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>>174301123
does the next fix actually fix his parry-impale and make it guaranteed? Super pissed that that bug slipped through.
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>>174302672
>>174302356
I have knight neutral but others are missing
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>>174302020
But if you try dodging the light and Law GBs he gets a free heavy
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>>174302860
>>174302893

What the fuck.
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What if zerker got an unblockable light combo?
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>>174303561
HA HA HA HA
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>>174303561

personally zerker does better on console

PC is where all the tryhard fags are
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>>174303912
A PKs biggest weakness by far is that their so fucking used to nonstop dodging that you can often trap them in untechable GBs
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>>174303912
>pk didnt feint that
>pk tried to parry while out of stamina

DISGUSTING
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Feinting just doesnt work for me holy shit
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>50 elimination takedowns contract
>each lobby is a one and done because no one sticks around
>have to not only hope the game doesn't die because of p2p, but also have to wait between games

Part of the problem is my isp not allowing me to completely port forward so my NAT is shit, but still, this sucks.
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>>174305071

heres a pro tip

turn off global match making and stop blog posting faggot
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>>174305365
>stop blog posting faggot
But how else will I pretend like I have friends to complain to?
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Why is Berzerker so fun yet so shitty?

ONE mistake and your destroyed its insane
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>>174305715

Why do you think other assassin fags dont like him?

He has literally no range and is parry bait the class
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>>174305808
>>174305715
But he's strong as fuck

>>174305071
You can also save the contract by just keeping it tracked, they dont take it away when the new ones come
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>>174306005

Zerker is a good example of high skill needed
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>>174306005
>keep it tracked
oh yeah, i forgot you could do that
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>>174306005
>>174306081

Hes to much work when you can play classes in his same rank that offer more
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>duels as rep 6 raider
>fighting rep 10 kensei
>numerous times in each round there are lagspikes where he teleports and guardbreaks me or gets hits for free
>free wallstun overhead unblockables in the last two rounds
>he kills me with a lag hit
>leave the lobby, get rematched
>pick PK, tell him this is what he gets for being a laggy fuck
>leave and let him fight a shitty PK bot

fuck you
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>>174306201
Internet isn't always the users fault man, maybe he was on the other side of the world.
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>>174306201
Why do people always assume it's the other person's internet that's at fault?
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>>174306005

Well I dont fucking see it

Hes just not fun to play
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>>174306290
>>174306370

He didn't complain about any latency so I assumed he had none. I guess it isn't his fault if he's a Jap and matched against me in USA but still, fuck
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>>174300664
Then realize that Zerker has literally nothing in his kit save for being hard (but not impossible) to predict.
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>>174306678

Turtle zerker works

if you can parry every hit
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>>174306729
Zerker becomes top tier when you just remove dodges from the equation.
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>>174306729
>>174306883

Still hes to hard for no reason
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>>174306729
Yea, but that's every other character too.

It's kind of sad though, seeing as just one or two tiny changes could make Zerka a really strong character.
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>>174307254

No it is not

Im not exactly the best at this game but but I know what it takes to play it but zerker feels off to me

Im done playing him
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>>174306532
Understandable and excused for your crimes of faggotry.
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>>174307473

Zerks not for everyone

you mess up one time you are dead
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Can they nerf dashing?

I can instantly tell if people are from dark souls when they do that shit
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>Start a duel
>See it's a Valkyrie/Warden/Warlord
>Leave
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>>174308332
>Assassin is low health and or getting ganked
>Nonstop dashing to keep distance
>Once there's enough distance they just run
Something has to be done to stop faggots from running around, especially in elimination. I don't give a shit if my team is winning, I don't want to waste over 2 minutes waiting for the round to end because some faggot is afraid of dying
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>>174307930
too much risk for not enough reward
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>>174308425
Valk is balanced bro lmao! :)
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>>174305808
>>174306182
Yeah, you have to put in a lot more work for the same results, but it's so satisfying when you're in the zone and styling on kids.
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>>174308425
Warden players are the fucking WORST. I want him to be nerfed so goddamn bad, just so he can be buffed to do something other than random lights and shoulder bash blenders. Maybe then I'll play that boring, broken fucking character.
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>>174308760

its just not fun man

I feint like 3 times and people never fall for it

people never fall for the feint guard break

Is this like a PC thing since this sucks dick
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>>174309057

>Berzerker has some of the slowest attacks
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>>174308952
I play him with alot of heavy fainting and lights poking through, I win maybe 75% of my fights from out playing people and not using a crutch. But what the fuck is wrong with random lights? Its not fallowing the fucking meta of turtle? Shut up about light attacks, the warden isnt a Peace Keeper and they can all be reacted too. Just learn to parry if your so ass blasted
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>>174309305
>his side light
>slow
It's almost worse than PK's to me. I can go up against a PK and stomp their shit most of the time unless they're smart and constantly feint. But Berserkers are the most annoying fucking players in this game. They'll endlessly turtle and do random lights and then say "well it's because Berserker is bad!".
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>>174309057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f9uK9ZPpxk

Prepatch zerker on ps4. Try to play more like this. When you start getting on a roll like that, people panic and tilt hard.
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>>174309539
this will never happen on PC
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>people say zerk is easy parry bait
>still get trapped in his combos

What the fuck am i doing wrong? I can't tell whats a heavy or light anymore. Can you not parry mid combo?
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>>174291132
Wait, is that a street sweeper?
Why is he using that god-awful piece of shit?
If you're going to massacre an airport you're going to need more than 12 fucking shots.
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>>174309539

So just do more light spam?
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>>174309539
this will never happen on PC
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>>174309985
They had M249s, M4A1s, and Street Sweepers.
I want to go do that mission again, now.
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>>174309539

No

This cant work
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Well thanks for the tips but im sorry

Zerker is to fucking painful and is just a shit stomper
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>>174293519
>he dislikes 1v1s, probably tries (and usually succeeds) at forcing everyone to play a '2v2 brawl' by ganking & being a little shitter
I bet you've never actually organized before the match to get a real 2v2 going, where the 4 of you group up & the individual players swap targets mid-fight to tag-team & teamplay like proper 2v2ers instead of self-centered ganking faggots. I bet you haven't, and >hurr I get da ganks since I got da ledge-kill< is all you know.
Into the trash with you.
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>>174310025
Spam isnt a bad thing. Any player should be able to react and deal with it. The trick is to use so many lights that when you throw a heavy they dont expect it, fuck up the parry time, and eat it on the face.
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>>174309985
But anon, 12 shots is more than enough to kill anything that moves!
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>Decide to play Brawls
>Having an easy time against my opponent
>Fucking destroying him
>Suddenly my teammate runs over without having even fought his opponent
>Attacks my guy
>Gives him revenge
>Gets fucking slaughtered
>I have to try and fight two people alone now
>Ally quits

Who the fuck plays this horrendous mode?
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>>174309398
The problem is that it's not a well designed or fair offense. Moves that punish you for not reacting to them are fine and are a core component in action/fighting games. Take Nobushi's wheel kick for example. It's never guaranteed, but can be done out of almost all her attacks. If you get hit by it, you take a single bleed poke and then she has to re-engage in a different string to use it again. Her Hidden Stance can be incredibly good if you use it well, but again, it isn't unfair.

Warden on the other hand, is balanced entirely around two moves instead of four or five. The only two tools in his arsenal are shoulderbash and Crushing Counterstrike. Which top light is fine and just rewards a reactive player, shoulder bash is his bread and butter offense move. But again, it isn't a fair or well designed offense. Out of shoulderbash, Warden can:
A. Charge and hit you and get a free heavy. It barely ever happens, but when it does it's two bars gone.
B. Regularly bash which chains back into his side light combo, which chains back into the shoulderbash.
C. Feint the shoulderbash and parry a dash attack counter from an Assassin, practically the only "safe" thing you can do other than rolling away.
D. Guardbreak you across the fucking Earth.

Say you're playing Kensei, and you do dodge light to try to counter, but he feints, you're just back into the mixer and have to guess again, or completely disengage and give him the stamina edge, making his shoulderbash just that much more powerful by limiting your options completely. You can say it's "cracking the turtle meta", but it's opening it's way to an even worse meta when done competently.

tl;dr
While characters like Nobushi have a pretty balanced and fair offense that rewards good reads, there are completely unfair offenses that do nothing but put the defender at an incredible disadvantage.
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I lost 15 matches in a row with zerker

should I quit?
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>>174303912
>PK takes a huge stick throat-to-ass.webm
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>>174310718
maybe don't try zerker
Unless he is fun, then just keep playing him.
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>>174310718
Jesus Christ
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>>174305715
Lights are fast & heavies hit hard. Plus that leaping uninterruptible heavy top is pure sex.
If people don't know how to parry dash-attacks, &/or don't expect the feint-to-GB, it's child's play to take them apart.
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so, are we still getting events every week or just w/e they feel like it?

I need more dosh.
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>>174310780

He's fun when I get mind games or get a good full damage combo off

It's not fun with your every attack is parried and guard break is a fucking meme
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>>174307254
>change one or two tiny things to make him a really strong character
No, fuck you, he's fine as-is & anymore & he'll get a nerf too.
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>>174310564
With a friend, and... maybe I could be that friend.
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>>174310780

I'll just quit

I got 3 other heroes to rep 3 I might aswell wait for the centurion
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>>174311024
he's fine in a non 1v1 scenario.
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>>174308753
She's literally the most-balanced character.
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What if berserker got a dash guard break like kensei?
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>>174310628
tl;dr you sound like a whiny bitch
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>>174309539
That was a good fight with the valk.
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>>174308425
>playing Peacekeeper in duels while trying to get all my characters leveled up
>counter attacking more than anything, rarely commit to hits and just try to be an annoying shit to bait a parry
>people just end up mashing lights and zones and catching me every once in a while
>they turtle nonstop and never engage unless it's a random light or zone
>finally get annoyed and just start doing feints into lights
>win against a shitty Berserker turtle by doing this
>"dude I fucking hate PK, so unbalanced. Those lights are such nonsense"
>"if you didn't turtle so much I wouldn't have to be a scumbag about it. Plus it's not a PK problem, it's a game problem. The turtle meta is too strong, but the equally cancerous 'basically 50/50 unless you're a goddamn superhuman' meta is almost worse"
>I tell him I'll play a different character
>we requeue
>he goes Orochi
>does literally nothing but top light and zone
>"how can you complain about Peacekeeper when you play the exact same way you bitched about"
>"huh, complain about game balance when it's convienent to cover your loss."
>"My man, you were just bitching about PK being unbalanced when she really isn't a problem anymore apart from a minor couple things"
>"fucking PK mains defending that character"
>she's like my 9th string, only ahead of Raider, Valkyrie, and Warlord
>he wins 3-2, partly because you can't just hold block with reflex
>"rekt"
>leaves immediately
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>>174290753
Just won a 4v1 elimination with Berserker. Had half health, they were all ganging up on me so I climbed up a ladder ran across the bridge (overwatch) popped his berserker mode and sharpened blades. They all smacked me a few times and I got revenge then demolished them with my zone and quick lights. Half their health in one hit.
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>>174310464
It isn't enough to kill EVERYTHING THAT MOVES
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>>174311206
>going into depth and comparing characters and pinpointing game problems
>"lol dude stop complaining"
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>>174309985
A fitting weapon for the lawbringer.
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>>174311358
>Plus it's not a PK problem, it's a game problem
PKs being able to win with insanely fast light spam is a PK problem
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>>174310718
Stop playing duel with him.
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>>174311536
Maybe two months ago. Unless the PK is smart, and is just outplaying you, winning against a spamming PK is easy as fuck. Except for zones, which should just be disabled when locked on anyways.
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>Enemy picks Valk in a duel
>Gets mad at me for not raw attacking him when I am LB
>Point out that, since he's Valk, the entire duel is in HIS hands since he can very easily land his infinite loop of sweep bullshit that LB can't reliably dodge at all
>Guy tells me he can reaction parry ANY lights I throw at him and it's not hard to parry Valk lights
>Go LB into his LB
>He doesn't parry a single light
>Throws me off a ledge and says "U MAD?"
>Roll my eyes and quit

There's some shit you don't wanna deal with, and children who break their own rules and act like they were le epikkk trolling all along push me over the edge. Normally, I don't quit for anything, but when a guy goes out of his way to attack me when I am typing to prove some kind of """point"""? Nope.
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>>174311107
Even in 1v1s he's ok.
Just feint like a madman.
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>>174311193
Doesn't really help Kensei that much.
So not much.
Just gives him another option for openers, and honestly I'm not a fan.
Would rather he keep using his TWO A X E S than to gb-spam like that alpha-weeb.
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>Get destroyed by PK as Conq
>Remember the basics of CQC
>Block right by default to make her unable to use ZA
>Block all other attacks on reaction
>PK falls apart and runs away
EZ
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>>174310628
Wow. Warden's shoulderbash is too good and the rest of his kit is utter trash. Truly you are a genius for finding out this new and game-changing information. What other knowledge will you give to us, wise one? Is Shugo's 50/50 too powerful as well?
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>>174311916
It was a comparison between a balanced and unbalanced mixup, from two characters that are considered strong.
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Does this at least look decent?

I am attempting to figure out my endgame fashion for roach.
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>Play Raider mainly.
>Get bored one day and play a match as Warden.
>Tfw it's like playing on easy mode now.
Literally just parry anything the dick head fighting you throws out, then start your vortex and they freeze like deer in headlights. Be sure to finish them with your lightning quick zone attack. Ubi really should at least try to balance their game because this is hilariously easy to win with right now.
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>>174312152
I had the same thing but I went from raider and pre-buff law into orochi. Was like night and day.
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>>174311606
It's painfully easy though for them to send out a lightning fast zone then cancel into a light, then back the fuck up and regen stamina to do it all over again
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>>174312142
>moth roach
you're not fooling anyone with that menorah taped to your helmet
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>>174312142
Moths are annoying and you don't really know what they are good for, fits very well 10/10
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>>174311628
Reminder that you can react-dodge at least one of the two sweeps if you anticipate it & wait out the GB mixup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CpVpf4G76w
And if you do dodge it, you get a free GB as shown.
Take note, the warlord dodges after a bash as well, which'd imply EVERYONE can dodge after bash as well.
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>>174312248
Then just block right and parry the other two directions. Zone recoils on block now so they can't just continue or back off. I think it shouldn't be safe on block still, none of the zones should, but it's not as bad as it was before the nerf.
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>>174312152
>freeze
They're more afraid of the GB than the lights.
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>>174312516

Idk, sometimes I don't even have control over my character before I get sweeped, it's inconsistent as fuck.
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>>174312543
>Keep blocking right
>Have to switch to block the fast lights
>Guard stance change eats time, so my reaction speed has to be perfect
You should just never be able to zone unless you're already in the direction for it
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>>174312476
Moths are pretty, though.

though their larvae eat the shit out of our tomatos though.

>>174312257
Oy vey, I do not know what you mean, but the samurai are true warriors, not like the thug knights and rapists vikings! Donate your shekels to the true noble warriors!
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how the fuck, THE FUCK, do you deal with nobushi? I lose 80-90% of my fights to those cunts because of range. Someone tell me the fucking secrets.
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>>174310564
I do. Gotta do it with a friend.
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>>174312142
You look like my grandmother's quilt.
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>>174312826
Stop being impatient.
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>>174312884
Is the joke that its moth eaten?
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>>174312767
Guard change doesn't mean shit for parries though, which is what blows them up. You can't feint a light. You'll make them feint more which gives you more gaps in their offense.
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>>174312926
Honestly I cant react fast enough to her bull shit attacks, she does like 3 things and im bleeding and close to death. Some BS side heavy and I have no idea what it takes for her kick but I dont even think it can be side steeped.
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>>174312826
Block top, watch for the sides, always walk forward.
She'll get flustered & try to throw out pokes to range you.
Block & punish.
Enjoy the tilt.
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>>174313313
>can't be sidestepped
yeah it can
it's slow as molasses
People just don't anticipate it & think they're still stuck in a combo when they're NOT.
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>trying to level up a character in Dominion because it's fast
>keep getting matched with this Rep 15 Lawbringer that does literally nothing but Impaling Charge and Shove
>has max defense gear so you can never kill him at one bar by yourself
>used THREE (3) heal feats on me when I have a gear score of 5
>does absolutely nothing but stomp in ganks and talk shit and say "umad?"
>people wonder why everyone thinks Lawbringers are faggots
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>>174314000
Trips of truth, Lawbringer is the new cancer meta
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>Play elimination
>Teammate finished his guy off without executing, and didn't watch the body
>Watch it since I don't want it getting revived
>He runs off to the other side of the map and dies
>The body I'm watching has half it's revive bar left, I can easily still babysit this one and then revive my teammate
>Spams the chat nonstop for a revive and complains when I'm not getting him
These people are the worst
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>>174314148
So let me see if I understand the buff right, any attack that I throw at him, if he blocks he get s a free 50/50 GB or light attack after a shove right? On top of that if he parries a light he gets a free unparryable unblockable top heavy?
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>>174314338
Anon.
If the enemy team only has 1-2 people left, and you KNOW THEY'RE FIGHTING/OCCUPIED, don't fucking take the bench to guard a body unless you KNOW one of the living enemies is a nobushi piece of shit that can & will successfully flee to revive.

Otherwise you're being a dead fucking weight.

Guard bodies if there's cause.
Otherwise get off your dumb ass and help your team.
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>>174314000
i haven't run into any douche law-bringers ever.

Except for maybe that one that didn't emote with me if you want to count that.
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>>174314576
Enemy team had a PK, and they almost always run for the revive since they know no one can catch them.
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>>174314576
As an example
>4 minutes in
>2 enemies down, 1 ally down
>low-health ally downs his enemy with a light
>board now reads 3v1
>he starts running towards the last set of duelists as his idiot ally runs up & discovers the fresh enemy corpse
>idiot ally sits on it, thinking it will hatch
>low-health ally knows that his friend needs him & leaves the corpse to rot
>he arrives at the last fight & commences the 2v1 gank
>gets poked to death
>last ally is now back to a 1v1, and the idiot refuses to leave his perch to revive his fallen ally and turn the game into a 3v1 cinch because >muh revive timer
The story you relayed may have been you acting like a retard, friend.
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>>174314781
>>174314338
You sound like the worse one here, What good are you if the PK just smacks your ass, you win or lose that round?
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>>174314895
haa
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>>174314345
He's had the top heavy since before the buff.
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>>174314909
Are you retarded? I was guarding the body to make sure the enemy PK couldn't abandon their fight and revive the body
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>>174315072
nice, I'll post some
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>>174314852
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>>174315165
You remind me of Havel the Rock
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>>174315119
So did you win?
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>>174315157
Holy shit
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Does Conq have anything going for him other than shield bash spam? I started playing him a bit and it's pretty fun - light chains and charge attacks to apply pressure, interesting thing with heavy startups, etc

Only thing is my battles are 50/50 I get wrecked or I wreck them. Is it just pressuring people into making mistakes with the chains and shit? I like the whole shield on heavy attacks but I'm not sure how to use it. Also what punishes do I get off of parries/gb's? I can't seem to figure out anything that's consistent.
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>>174315298
Yes, it's just fucking annoying that I was babysitting someone elses kill and then they spam nonstop for revives
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How do you deal with one or more lawbros getting funky with you in a 1v2,3,4? I just keep dying,
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>very new
>playing dominion
>matched against a lot of high level dudes
>make a joke about getting raped
>dude makes another joke about finding me in the battlefield and raping me
>he actually goes around trying to find me
>never actually gets to kill me, but keeps making sexual comments
>second match
>keeps being lewd
>finds me
>all his comments got me hot and bothered
>can't concentrate
>die
>he makes lewd comment
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>>174315758
>Shit that never happpened except in the perverted, damaged mind of a prison gay Anonymous poster
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>>174315338
Only punishes you get from GB/parry are lights.
Don't parry, just block->light/gb. Use dat bash, and wallbang whenever possible. Charge-attacks are only useful against shitters unless you can read them like a book.
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Why the fuck does Shugs hyper armor protect him from Lawbringers long arm? It's basically the same thing as a grab, and telegraphed as shit, it's bullshit his armor eats it
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>>174316028
My eyes
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Dominion has its places to be fun, but do you have fun dealing with a valk abusing sweep, a warden abusing shoulder bash, a shug using ONI charge, and a law bro pushing and flipping you? That was the worst game I have played yet, christ.
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>>174316130
Have you tried dodging?
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>>174316109
It's that INTE-VERSATILE
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>>174316223
>singleplayer
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>>174315918
not him but that exact thing happened to me (save getting off to it) with a rep 19 lb
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>>174316181
So I can get GB more? Man sure didn't think about that at all, your so wise.
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>>174316223
Lmao what is this anime shit. That doesn't even make your attack harder to foresee.
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>>174316223
Y O U A R E R A I D E R
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>>174316559
It's almost definitely going to become a Roach emote
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>>174316559
Do it on realistic.
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>>174316668

I did but I threw him off the bridge and he died 5 seconds in
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Might be relevant soon.
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>>174316757
Me too.
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>>174316941
What's with the time limit?
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>>174316868
this makes no sense, what would the roach try to take from the law, it's not like in the actual show where there was pretense for them trying to take his knife
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>>174317171
a capture-point
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>>174317171
Someone should edit a B point below him, or even just an orange B.
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>>174317040
Dominion has a time limit to prevent the match from never ending because of some faggot on the breaking team running forever
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>>174317314
But B is usually a wide-open area without ledges, spikes, or choke-points.
It needs to be A or C.
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>>174317209
>world_war_one.webm
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I'm fucking done with this "complete x number of matches". I've been trying to achieve ONE fucking match for about 2 hours. Nat's green, my connection is fast af yet the game keeps failing. Thanks ubimicare
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>tfw nothing webm worthy ever happens to me
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>Dom match
>basically a walking rapefest of PK, Raider and Warlord
>both teams breaking, down to the Rape Train and our Rep 15 Kensei
>As if this man was Musashi himself, perfect parries, feints, dodge strikes and Revenge fill my screen
>PK head flies by
>Raider BTFO
>All oxygen in River Fort is replaced by Warlord's fear
>He turtles, but proves he is shit at CGB
>naught but silence and death on the field
His fucking brain and reflexes, folded 1,000 times on the top of Mt. Midoriyama.
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>>174317870
>Orochi not turtling and spamming top lights and zones

WHAT YEAR IS IT?
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>jump into dominion match in progress
>one of my teammates is afk
>another is a bot
>the enemy team has a rep 8 shugoki, PK and two warlords
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>>174293507
I still havent played the patch, only looked over the notes, what made him suddenly cancer?
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>>174296323
>>b-but muh uncounterable vortex that isn't a real vortex!
I wasn't aware that it suddenly stopped looping into itself on both variations.
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Found this on the official forums
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>>174320596
Christ alive talk about too big for your britches
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You know, if they remove the ability to feint Shoulder Bash, Wardens will just turtle super hard against the 6 characters with side dodge attacks. Is that an improvement to the overall state of the game?
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>>174316772
This just reminds me of how great the knights armour sets could have been.
>warden's shitty patchwork chest
>conq having no sleeves
>pk's helmet hood
>Law is wearing jousting armour
>STUDS AND SPIKES EVERYWHERE
How could they fuck up this bad.
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>>174321389
Conq can get leather and mail arms.
I agree, though. More spikes and studs for tiers is retarded.
And none of them having some plate trousers is annoying. Especially for Lawbringer, since his description talks about how OP their specially made armor is.
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>>174321389
dude normies lmao
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Why did I get warned for joining in with my team of randos saying nigger?
What is with these safe space Devs? If they try to prevent me from utilizing the program I fucking paid for I'm going to firebomb their fucking headquarters.
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The first time I've actually rage quit a game. The fuckers pulled everything in the book, moving from point to point just ganking. Never less than two in a fight.

PK ban when?
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>>174322871
>MUH VERSATILITY
>MUH ARMOUR
>Isn't versatile
>Has normal HP and few armoured moves
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Are retarded people still saying Centurion and Ninja images are fake?
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>>174323212
Retarded people are bargaining by saying their weapons aren't being shown in the character selection screen.

Mostly it's scutumfags hoping desperately that Centurion has a shield instead of a single gladius/open hand or gladius/cestus.
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>Pre-order colors are no longer in the color select screen
>Have to reset all your customization and select the outfit and then re-customize your symbols etc.
>When you only do so much as to enter the color select screen ever again you will have to do it all over again
>When you close the game you will have to do it all over again
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>>174323212
no
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>>174323363
But we can CLEARLY see the Ninja is using either the WeebChain thing or sickles/duel sickles.

Centurion doesn't have a shield, he'd just be an underpowered Warlord.
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>>174290753
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>>174323503
>underpowered warlord

Not a chance they'd let their DLC characters be underpowered. They want people to actually buy the season pass
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>>174323594
Yeah but Warlord is so broken that even if they introduced Batman as a DLC character the Warlord would destroy him.
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>now fighting people that can parry lights even mixed up
>notice that they always have russian or turkish emblems
not fishy at all
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>>174323982
>Playing SFV
>Against a Ryu shitter with a Turkish flag
>Get him down to practically 1 pixel of health
>Suddenly the game freezes for about 8 seconds and when it starts up again I've apparently had my ass beat
hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>174323982
I have my orochi's zone attack parried once. Even more sus since I play a very defensive orochi, rarely if ever using zone in fights.
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>Get into a few 1v1s against a Rep4 Peacekeeper in Dom with my Rep1 Conq
>Win every time because the guy seemingly already lost his shit when his attacks were blocked
>Last time he got revenge
>ZA ZA ZA ZA ZA
>Against my heal on block
PK is the best heal class Tbh
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>>174324673
Got sick of fighting PK shitters on console as Conq so now all I do is fullblock and wait until the fuck off.
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>first time playing shug
>duel vs a rep 5 roach
>absolutely smoke him
>the next 4 rounds he spends running away from me
why?
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>>174325104
Overpowered scrub character.
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>>174325251
but i wasn't even using the 50/50
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>>174322996
>Cong is mostly ragged clothes with a few bit of plates, mail, and leather here and there
>He's the heavy
>Lawbringer is a giant ass dude in heavy armor
>He's just a hybrid

I feel like LB got the hybrid label simply because he use a poleaxe.
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>>174325446
Conq is the "heavy" yet has the weakest attacks and dies in 3 hits to an Orochi.

HMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>174320596
It was in the trailer as well.
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>>174325481
>Low defense shitters
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>>174325686
>Playing meme game types with gear stats
L
O
L
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>>174325852
>Playing the mode with nothing but turtling tryhards
I bet that's fun
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>>174326254
>mfw 200 duels and I've fought 4 Conquerors
Everyone is a fucking Orochi and Valk shitters.
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>>174326463
That can't be PC then because all you get there is Wardens
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>2v2
>2 pks spamming lights
wow such fun much wow
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>wanting to nerf warden
>the only character that can break up a turtle

If every character were as strong as warden we would have an enjoyable game.
Devs should give everybody an ability that breaks up a turtle and not nerf the only one who can currently can do it.
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>>174326860
How about you fix turtling instead of keeping an OP moveset?
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they should remove the guard delay for raider/shug/law

nubu and valk has "long" weapons yet they dont got it
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>>174327225
Nobushi does get it
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>>174327329
well remove it either way
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>>174326860
>Devs should give everybody an ability that breaks up a turtle and not nerf the only one who can currently can do it.
Except giving every other character their own moveset to open people up will take months. Warden should not go unnerfed for literal fucking months when no one else can do what he can
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>>174310628
t. Shitterhis bash gives all of his moves use
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Haven't played in a few weeks. Has the latest patch fixed the game?
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>>174327981
if for fix you mean no more turtle or stare contest then no
same goes for the indicator going up and then switch istantly left or right
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>>174327172
>>174327643
hola reddit
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>>174328058
I mean is revenge gear still broken, is every class other than Conqueror, Warlord, PK and Warden still useless and is the game still filled with connection issues?
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>>174327643
>forcing everybody to play in the turtle meta without counter
No thanks I don't want to spend my duels parry fishing.
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>>174328069
They're right though. Each character should be on relatively equal footing with each other.

Obviously, with 12 characters, there will be some that are generally weaker, and some that are generally stronger, and not to mention counters.

The turtle meta needs to be addressed, but the answer isn't "everybody use warden".

Nerfing one or two characters will be much quicker than buffing the ones that need it, although I do agree that they do need to be buffed eventually. But having Warden as the option that stands clearly above the rest for his guessing game is not the way to go.
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>>174328314
>reddit spacing
>crying about warden
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>>174328314
Nigga don't even reply
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>>174328302
Too bad, Wardens already getting a nerf
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>>174308435
It's supposed to be the reason we have ranged weapons.
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>>174328579
Except it's fairly easy to dodge ranged weapons if you know it's coming. kunai is the only one that's challenging
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>>174328383
Where did this reddit spacing meme come from anyway?

And don't say reddit
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>>174328193
I think they nerfed revenge stat,conqueror shield bash is easier to dodge
From an orochi view,warlord and warden are still op,but i'm half shitter and came back like 2 week ago so i may be worng
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>>174293349

Rep 15 Conq only player here

No

Conq still 2 stronk tho
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>>174328069
>thinking warden is OP is reddit

ok then
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>>174328819
No but crying about him constantly and using reddit spacing makes you reddit.
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so when they nerfing all zone spammer clases?
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>>174328960

what exactly is reddit spacing? double spaces between words or what?
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>>174328984
Tomorrow

You won't have to block left/right anymore, so don't bother doing it
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>>174328960
>reddit spacing

you're they same kind of autist that think '>' is le green meme arrows don't you?
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love how warlords can still spam headbutt

nice fix you french cunts
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>>174329001
>>174329271
wew lads you're either phoneposting scum or reddit scum
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>>174329001
Nigga don't even bother, it's just a "I have no arguments to counter yours so I'll nitpick on stupid shit".
You can try to explain to him why he's a stupid fuck but he'll just meme it up some more.
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>>174329402
>reddit scum
you do realize that reddit's and 4chan's community overlap alot?
a good example of this would be /pol/
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>>174329321
Snake, press the dodge button.
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>>174329517
>t. proud member of r/4chan
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>patch still isn't out on console
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>>174329639
dodge my dick in your face
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>>174294192
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>>174329924
Otzdarva?
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>>174329516
obviously, given what i see here >>174329402 its an argument/insult for the retarded. but whats the term actually mean? is it double spacing between each word? or is it pressing enter twice after each line?
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>>174329924
Also had this at one point...
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>>174329965
Not him, but we both share a love for Armored Core apparently.
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>>174329893

Walking backwards is enough to evade that range lmao
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>>174326860
they are gibing the lawman 50/50
and supposedly defense nerf is already in the testing, maybe will be ready together with the new chars
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why do people think Warden is balanced?
he's obviously not but Warden mains refuse to accept that they're character is op
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>>174330273
no one that is actually good at the game thinks warden is op
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>>174330337
>has the only way to open up turtles which cant be punished
yep that's balanced
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>>174330273
Warden mains are a special kind faggot, no one else is so far up their own ass.
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>>174330337
Your reply to any challenge on this opinion will be "warden isn't OP. All the other characters are just bad :^)"
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>>174330164
you'd know the range of my dick ;)
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>opponent just waits for you to attack

these staring contests are fucking stupid
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>>174331136
Play warden, PK or shugo then. You can do pretty much whatever you like with those characters
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Is Orochi any good?

What about Nobushi?
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>>174331456
Noobushi is good but gets absolutely mauled by conq still

Orochi is okay. Hasn't got many other openers but gets ludicrous damage off any openings it can get. Has a light that does 30 damage
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>>174331382
>be warden against warlord full turtle mode
>initiate miserum
>get GB right as i dash to begin the miserum
what do i do now?
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why do people say conq is shit now

people have been dodging my bash but i can still tech ther gbs
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>>174311653
Again, any hero can feint like a madman.

The fact that it's all Berserker can do is his weakness.
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>>174331695
You can tech only if their timing is late. You can't defend yourself after bashing and your bashes have no guard now which is the much more important part of the nerf. It means conq gets rekt by any class with a decent side step attack or good timing and a 600ms light.

Even with conq's strong passive defense, someone has to attack first eventually, and conq has below average attack speed, lowest damage of all characters and only one opener with his bash, which is now easily punishable and unsafe.

They gave conq something like 10 nerfs at once and made him total shite. Full block is shit and useless, heavy and light bash are shit and unsafe, he can't chain heavy off of missed heavy bash anymore, unlocked heavy no longer does 30 damage meaning conq has by far the lowest average damage at 15/25 despite his "heavy hitter" description.


All this despite saying in the same patch that they didn't want to nerf light spam and zone at the same time for PK in case they "over nerfed" her. Lol. Truly the cry babies of reddit are a cancer upon competitive gaming.
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>>174310439
mad retard spotted bro. the only wrong way to play brawl is separate duels without any team play what so ever. why don't you go back to duels you little whiny cunt
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>>174332343
Not to mention conq's existing issues of a shitty zone attack compared to pretty much anyone. No stun attacks, no ripostes, only one knock down move that has shit tracking and is easy to see coming because it has to be done from sprint and conq has pathetic sprint speed, no combos or guaranteed follow ups in neutral other than bash -> light (one 15 damage attack for the stamina cost of two!)

An already average class with the worst kit in the game and 4 losing match ups and they nerfed everything about him that made him in any way viable. Great balance
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>>174331823
Not him, but i disagree. Zerker has a lot of mix-ups he can use, and his heavy attacks are pretty punishing (especially that top heavy). His combos are deadly, and he's so fast you can dance around your opponent (like any other assassin ik). The only time that i use feint when playing him is in the middle of a combo, thne i go to zone right after feint cause it completely throws off my opponent, cause they were expecting another heavy. My point is feinting is not all a zerker can do, if the player is aggressive enough.
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>>174332343
thats the french for you

the game dont follow a basic rule set or logic

someone you can GB after a parry while youy cant with others its stupid and lazy
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I know this has been asked to oblivion, but what is the Centurion gonna use as a weapon? I heard someone mention a Cestus?
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>>174332950
Gladius and cestus
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>>174332681
Characters are not balanced around 1v1s, Conq is still good in 4v4s.
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>>174333135
>>174332950
I swear to god if ubisoft add a fucking meme bullshit hand to hand fighter to this game I'm quitting
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>>174333341
No, he's really not. He has average guard changing and no CC abilities. Full guard might have been useful in holding objectives but he can be easily grabbed out of it and taking attacks in full guard ruins your stamina
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>>174333494
>no CC abilities
>literally spends all game running around unlocked to tackle you onto the floor the moment you lock on to someone else
>bashes you into a corner while his buddy murders you

He's borderline cancerous in Skirmish.
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>>174312142
:3 Looks cute

I haven't bought outfits yet, but I've been trying to get good team colors, seeing as it's the majority of what I play.
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>>174333368
Another scutum faggot BTFO
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>>174333569
So you mean he's a worse version of shugoki, law, warlord, valk or even raider in that regard? Damn. Conq 2 stronq
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>>174315351
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>>174333763
Shugoki and Valk can knock down allies.

Warlord can't knock down at all, only spam headbutt.
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>>174333851
>Conqueror's best helmet is his starting helmet

Who thought giving him 3 base models of kettle helmet (with visor variations) was a good idea?
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>>174291123
Because he gets nothing, besides a top light, off a heavy parry-guardbreak unless he can throw his opponent into a wall. He has to get a light parry for guaranteed damage in the form of a side heavy. Even a top heavy after parrying a light isn't guaranteed.
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How good is Warden outside his vortex?
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Shameless ratefagging. Roast me.
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>>174334159
Is this blade ribbed for pleasure?
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>>174334137
Imagine orochi without his high damage top lights and an unsafe zone
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>>174334137
Vortex is actually gobshite and not going to work past the first bash/double-light chain on any nearly competent player.

Warden's pretty solid. Master your top light counterstrike, learn to parry>guardbreak and feint attacks well, and you can stand up to anything.
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>>174334218
Yes. Whose pleasure it is ribbed for remains to be seen, however.
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>>174334137
He's still formidable.
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>>174334292
>Vortex is actually gobshite
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>>174334137
Worse Orochi.

Even Crushing Counterstrike is only 5 more damage than Orochi's parry into top heavy.

And Orochi has a better top light and zone attack. Plus rare use for actual other moves like zephyr slash and even storm rush, on occasion.

Warden's damage output is kind of pitiful without shoulder chains.
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>>174334137
Depends how you play him. I main Raider so i play him like Raider and i do pretty well.
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>>174334427
If you don't know how to get out of a vortex at this point, you basically deserve to get cheesed to death famalam
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>>174315351
I didn't know you could cure two cancers at once.
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what to do when you reach the poimnt where the only thing holding you back are your reactions?
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>>174334617
Keep on practicing. Play some oldschool reaction training games like Snake if you're at Parkinsons level and need to build reflexes from ground up.
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>>174334617
You try to get better at predicting your opponent by studying every single fucking pattern they might show.
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reminder to REPORT ALL russians for cheating
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>>174334617
Play Raider so you don't need to react, you can just pick fuckheads up and throw them off cliffs.
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>>174334617
Accept your death, old man.
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>All these PK and Warlord mains theory-dueling against Wardens

For fuck's sake, the Warden has even less time to react to your reaction than you do to react to the bash. You're not going to get reaction parried for stuffing him with a light, you're going to get prediction parried if you keep doing it every time. It's a guessing game for both players involved, not just the defender, don't try to paint it as a scenario where the average Warden is literally reading your inputs somehow.
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>>174335008
also, a good warlord can cancel your shoulder every time
>see warden dashing
>dash forward
>headbutt
it beats shoulder/gb
but i think it loses to wardens top light
>dash
>top light
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>>174335008
I really hope the devs break the defensive meta without making the game a pretty version of rock-paper-scissors.
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>>174334159
Pommel seems mismatched
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skirmish is the worst fucking gamemode

>>174334816
this seem like the best course of action

Im basically an old man at 23
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>>174334159
That helmet looks like a toddler's drawing of what a knight helmet looks like.
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>>174334159
>Gilgamesh Blade*
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>>174335262
>tfw no Gilgamesh guard
>>174335546
Spotted the weeb
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>>174335262
You're a fine warrior. Call me sentimental, but I wish we'd met under different circumstances.
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>Third dominion game in a row that get nuked

I just want to complete my fucking orders.
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>>174335669
How am I a weeb
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>>174334159
0/10

Shit blade. Shit colours scheme. Gaudy ornament. Shit helmet. Paint on shoulders and helmet. Just absolutely awful
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>>174335669
It doesn't take a weeb to find it retarded to have the weak of your blade serrated. Enjoy your toy sword.
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>>174335775
My apologies. I retract my statement. Have a good day sir, Deus Vult.
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>>174334159
The Gilgamesh blade looks fucking disgusting
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>>174335739
Well make it a fucking fourth.
Fuck this I'm going to draw XJ9 lewds
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>>174335879
:^)
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>>174335284
>old man at 23
Just start using recreational stimulants bro.
If you're in a country where you can still get ephedrine that'll set you up good, otherwise caffeine, yohimbine, synepherine, sulbutiamine, taurine, and theanine are cheap in bulk and I've had good effects from them.
If you want to be an herbal fag about it get coffee, ginger, cayenne pepper, guarana, and green tea.
Dosage may vary, take aspirin to avoid strokes, and don't kill yourself.
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>>174335775
That LB looks tight
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why the FUCK does warlord get hyperarmor on the end of his heavys?
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>>174335985
>its funny because its true
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>>174334159
>gilgamesh dildo
jesus, delete this post, you are hurting people
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Am I a stylish for honor?
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>>174334617

A line of coke is what you do.
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>>174336147
You're an all right for honor
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>>174335797
>muh realism
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Another scrub who wasnt stronq enough to not get the bonq from conq
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>>174336147
>Lion motif on standards
>Lion motif on guard
>Eagle motif on pommel

Stick to one motif. Change your pommel.
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>>174336147
good taste my dude
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>>174336147

>taking screen shot while your standards are clipping through your gaudy sword

0/10
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>>174336270

i DONT HAVE ANY OTHER ONES
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>>174336371
Helmet engraving clashes pretty awfully with the rest of the outfit. It's too busy compared to how plain the rest of it is.

Also not a fan of the studded leather look to begin with.

Sword's pretty good.
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>>174334617
play roach versus the lvl 3 valk bot for a few hours.
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>>174336478
engraving looks good, shut up
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cant bonq the conq
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r8 my bushi.
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>>174334798
>Implying
As a Raider main you have triggered me. I don't abuse the throw, i parry and use heavy attacks
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>>174336972
Would fuck
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he had already lost. the game was over. he just screwed himself out of his rewards. such was the bitterness of his salt
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>Yesterday night I was watching the stream of a player (wont say who just in case they didnt want the info to spread) and they spoke about the community workshop where players like Brando and PeteMoo went to Ubi montreal to give input and ideas.
>According to them there are currently 2 test versions of the game right now. The first is the Alpha build which has the DLC characters (Almost guaranteed to have been tried out by the players) but it is more stable and similar to the game as it right now so it is a bit boring in contrast to the other changes. This is where the devs aim to put the finishing touches on the DLC heroes and for balance and stability changes.
>There is a second build referred to as the Kappa build where the game is much crazier and aggressive and it is where the devs are testing ways to counter the defensive meta and make some weirder changes the the characters and mechanics. It was quoted as being much more fun. Get this, berzerker is OP in that build according to one of the players who tried it out.
>I didnt want to share this at first since there might be all this privacy contracts that some may have to sign. But I think the community would be interested to see the devs trying new things and working on it and there seems to be no negative repercussions on me sharing this info.
This is some "my uncle works at Ubisoft" shit, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>174337384
>This is some "my uncle works at Ubisoft" shit

That's literally what it is.
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>>174337479
What, you wouldn't have your own internal builds where you try some wacky shit?
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>>174337384
it's true tho
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MISERUM
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>>174337509
Top lights
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>>174337384
Wasn't there some dude here saying that Berserker was really OP in something?
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LB shove needs to become more punishable if missed. They are starting to spam it.
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>>174337763
Isn't it already punishable if they whiff? It's as slow as, if not slower than, post-nerf headbutt.
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>>174337763
in the next patch LB doesnt even have to move to win, just block into shove 50/50
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>>174337384

That kappa build sounds interesting
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>>174336845
Jian scum
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>>174337803
You might be able to get a light in if you sidestep as they are doing it, but otherwise no. They recover after it quickly.
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>>174337384

i really hope the devs dont cave to reddit and remove the defensive meta, its the only thing making this game worth playing right now IMO. remove that and youre left with a (pseudo)fighting game like any other: best frame data and combos wins e.g. zerk is OP now

just make these changes:

time reduced to 90 seconds in duel. for obvious reasons

lowest hp by % loses a timeout, all characters of a given archetype have the same HP i.e. if an orochi and a conq end a fight with the same amount of HP pips, the orochi wins by % of his max HP being higher. this is to stop players, especially heavies, completely turtling up when they go to red HP

no more stages where one class can endlessly outrun another to force a timeout e.g. running circle around the firepits on any map as an assassin vs anyone who isnt an assassin. balance out run speeds in general, add a speed boost for players who are pursuing another

remove revenge entirely from duel and brawl. obvious reasons

in duel, strikes to the back(even lights) do 80dmg if you arent locked on, bashes to the back knocks down for the same time as being GB'd during exhaustion. discourages running away and things like shugo spamming oni charge
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>Go against a total newbie
>He's playing Valk, level 4
>Crush him super hard as LB
>Asks me what I am meant to do
>Change to my level 1 Valk to try and give him some pointers
>He gets mad and asks me how I could know ANYTHING if I am only level 1 as a character

Do people not even bother to learn characters they don't play? I have a basic idea of Valk's moveset despite only playing her against bots.
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>>174337954
You're full of shit, people Dodge>Untechable GB me all the time when I whiff shoves. It's still a terrible move from neutral, but it's going to be stupid OP from blocks after the next patch.
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>>174338546

Fuck that

What's the point of our combos if it's a death sentence on most classes
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Dodging shit with Hidden Stance is so satisfying, and its getting easier next patch as well because i'm a console pleb
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>>174338832
Which characters are doing that? Cause i cant do it with Raider or Warden
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>>174299102
This. I don't want to look like a skinny half-dyke in armor I want to look like a knight.
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>>174322954
Stop saying nigger in public/non-anonymous places you fucking retarded edgelord.
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even now, as the worst class in the game by a wide margin, no one brings the salt like conq does
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>>174338589
The same thing happened to me expect I taught my noob how to use warden and he was gratefull for my advice. I taught him to parry, tech gbs, do a zone attack, feint, MISERIUM, double strike and crushing counterstrike. He was autistic enough that he absorbed it all in one go. T'was scary 2bh.
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>>174339017
>>174337351
>>174336845
>>174336261

more nerfs for conq pls. i need more salt
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>>174338935
I definitely have raiders pull it off.
Wardens have some trouble with the timing it seems, I've had it happen a few times but if they go too early it just starts a bash and if they go too late I can tech it, the window seems pretty narrow for them. Same with the rest of classes that have a dodge>gb special.
I don't THINK I've had a shugoki pull it off, but I might be wrong. Pretty sure everyone else has done it to me at least once.

Have to be pretty close to do it too, if you're near the max range for the shove to connect it probably won't work, so try and stay in close.
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>>174338951
This is the place for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/
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>>174339226
The problem i seem to have is: whenever i try to dodge to the side the shove somehow still gets me.
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>>174338832
To be fair, it'll give Lawbringer a choice. Do you go for the safer raw block and get the shove 50/50, or do you go for the riskier parry and get a bunch more, potentially more damaging follow-ups?
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>>174338935
You must be garbos

The only reason raider is such a strong counter for most of the top 5 characters is that he gets huge rewards from bashes and the shoulder 50/50

He gets GB off his own side steps and can't be GB'd while side stepping. It's why he clobbers warden, conq, law, warlord, call and others.
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Hey am I the only one who's been having awful connections issues today?
Couldn't finish a single fucking game at all without being booted to the menu
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>>174339469
Valk, not call. Fucking autocorrect
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>>174333494
>not good in 4v4s
>where he can stack defence/blockdamageresist/revenge & has access to healonblock/catapult, not to mention his baseline superior block
Nigger conk can handle & even win 4v1s.
He's fucking good in 4v4, because it's best to tackle him 1v1 and that takes fucking forever.
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>>174336845
>there's an upgraded sleaveless
Fuck I need those
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>>174339173
this cant be good for the heart. so much salt

>>174339685
>implying block damage resist isnt a dump stat
>implying catapult has ever killed an assassin player, ever

garbage man detected, opinion discarded
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>>174338889
And it throws attackers for a loop.
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>>174339469
I dont Gb all that often with him, because II'm good at parries. And most Lb i've played just spam that bash until it connects.
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>>174339275
Anon you're going to learn fast that if you can't filter your edge in normie spaces you're going to get hit.
Control yourself or stop whining.
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>>174339896
>class has the best block in the game
>he just lets it atrophy
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>europe
>notice lag alot today
>open random ip
>paste into google
>american

like what the hell?
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>Kensei players execute you and just stand there idle, cleaning the blade
>Berserker players go full ADHD mode with emotes

I notice this every time
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>>174340545
One class has good spammable emotes.
The other doesn't.
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>>174340625
Kensei's newest emote is one of the most spammable in the game
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>>174340286

>stack heal on block(only good feat at that level) with block damage resistance

hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>174340545
>Any Viking player beats you
>Spams emotes like a child having a blue dye fit

I do the Kensei thing. Mostly, I don't even execute people in duels anymore. It feels like a rude time waster. I just finish them off and immediately unlock to get the round over with. Also, I fucking LOVE this pose as LB. It looks so good and I wish I could trigger it at will.
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>>174340545

>edgy samurai faggot walks off slowly
>PK player spams lights into the wall or changes guards like a spastic
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>>174339326
The tracking period is weird, need to start your dodge in the early frames of the shove, but it's doable.

>>174339330
The choice already exists, my worry is that this'll push the optimal move very much into the block camp, which makes for much less interesting gameplay and VERY, VERY low incentive for anyone to ever go offensive against law. And since law has no useful offensive tools, we're just going to end up staring at each other. Not good.
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>>174340545
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man berzerker feats are shit AND take forever to unlock
>kills in 1v1
>kill heros
>killstreaks
LOL should be takedowns not kills
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>>174340756

nice, i like that

i also wish i could make the female conq stretch and show her armpits at will. i know theres the RAH emote, but the idle one is so much more languid
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>>174341375
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>>174341583

the pope frowns upon your homosexuality, heathen
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>>174340084
Not him, but unless my financial status is affected in any way, I really don't filter myself in any way. Seems to keep garbage-tier normies out of my life and tbe people that matter accept it.
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>>174340545
>LB
>have much more enjoyment scratching my ass idling for the first two rounds
>spam flaming thrusts on 3rd win
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>>174341375
>shitskin
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>>174342315
>Having the Hellfire
>Being a homosexual

You have to choose two.
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>>174342368
Because Darkness or Whirlwind are much better options, right?
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>>174342368
To be fair, they look a lot less gay on LB than the other knights.
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It's over for me boys. Average of .35 ms reaction times after suffering spinal damage.

It's been a good run. I'm 30 so it was time anyway. It's been fun. Take care.
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>>174341375
North-african monkey saracen in disguise as a conqueror
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>>174342568
>>174342368
>>174342539

all effects look shit on all characters

sunbeam on warden and conq is barely passable, just barely
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>>174342678
Find a dl source of Adderall and get back to parrying PK lights. 26 here, the line can't end so soon.
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>>174342678
>.35 ms
reaction dont mean shit when the p2p is shitty and are getting out in with chinese and americans while living on the otherside of the FUCKING PLANET
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Friendly reminder that Mordhau will blow this game out of goddamned water.
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>>174342879
Shadow has potentinal to look good on ninja, but I agree they are absolute shite.
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>>174343264
or is it called Darkness? whatever
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>>174342879
What about whirlwind?
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>>174342678
Is this bait
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>>174342678

I'm 30 and I can parry lights more often than not, does that make me a miracle of science?
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tips for a new lawbro?
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>>174340545
>>174340756
I'm just living up the Viking aesthetic man. I will flip out after my berserker fury has earned me your skull, it may just be my last moments alive to celebrate considering the traumatic frostbite that has rattled half my body for being a half naked man living in fucking Scandinavia. The only respite for our autistic and savage living is the celebration of victory against tierfag Peacekeeper mains (and Tyrfags at that, fuck honor).
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>>174343950
Get really damn good at parries.
Memorize and recite lots of Dredd quotes.
Don't shove from neutral if people are too close, they can easily dodge and GB you.
Try not to cry.
Cry a lot.
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>>174343461

Why would it be bait?
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>>174343950
Become a parry god, cleave people in two with top heavy off light parries.

Then fail at parrying raw heavies because you're on a hair trigger for valk/PK lights.
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>>174344576

>Then fail at parrying raw heavies because you're on a hair trigger for valk/PK lights.

Then die to scrubs because you think they're going to use MLG tactics but instead use the worst shit in the game.
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i fucking HATE 400-500ms lights as a berzerker you cant do ANYthing if its a pk/valk
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>>174343950
>wait for bug fix
>block, shove, light, block, shove, light, block shove gb, block, shove, light, block, shove, gb
>become salt merchant
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>>174344848
As an anyone you can't do anything against that shit if you can't afford high grade cocaine every time you want to play.
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>>174345103
if pk/valk attack any faster they'll split the fucking atom
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>>174344576
>tfw to intelligent to parry the 40 second warden side heavies
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>>174345891
too*
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>>174344701

I played a level 3 warden last night, and he beat me, he had no idea how to vortex and did side lights from neutral, I lost 3 rounds until I copped on
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Does conq get side or top heavies off light parries?
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>>174346656

Yes.
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>>174346656

Side is faster so if he gets any of it itll be side
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>>174340741
>he doesn't like healing faster than the ganksquad can damage him
k
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>>174341065
Truly fascinating.
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>>174342141
t trailer trash
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Posting warden. I want the owl sword, thoughts?
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>>174340756
They do it even if they didn't get the kill.
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>>174342879
Whirlwind on zerker is great, and the thor effects are 10/10 on raider.
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>>174347342
>studded leather
Change your chest armor.
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>>174347460
>last human player on a team with 3 leaver-bots
>better spam emotes over his corpse to gloat over the win

Vikang players are scum.
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>>174345103
>tfw get really fucking into it when I play
>body temp goes up
>hunger fades
>reaction time drops from 260->210ms
Who needs cocaine when you've got immersion?
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>>174347342
Change the rest to brass if you want to use the wings.
Good taste in sword, if 'owl sword' means a shitty pommel, don't.
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>>174347460
I've never gotten mad at emote spam before but holy shit fuck that warlord
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>>174347460
>>174347736
>>174348159
lol
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>>174347985
I do olympic fencing and I get around 210-220ms for my fastest short lunges on a reaction drill machine, but for some reason I'm way slower in FH. Maybe not enough adrenalin, maybe because I fence left handed and use the mouse right handed.
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warlord play the same animation, heavy and light

how fun
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>>174340865
I have done all those things as warden
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>pk can still zone attack and feint it if it hits, only she does it inside her combo

JUST NERF THE FUCKING SPEED ALREADY SAME GOES FOR WARDENS AND ORCHI ZONES
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>>174347342
I don't understand your patterns
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>>174342879
Whirlwind looks alright with Ken/Nobu.
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>>174347604
I like the cloth belt around the midrif. >>174348126
I'm not sure how I feel about it but I will be able to get the 108 score for dominion with it.
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>>174348126
The Bellius hilt/pommel looks pretty alright, and it's the only sword with an owl motif so he probably means this one.
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>>174348910
Rising Ball on the right shoulder of the Dullahan/Lederic arms is the one case where I'll forgive someone for painted armor.
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>>174348432
Probably both play a role.
Adrenalin's a hell of a drug.
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>>174348852
warden's and roach zoens are both 500 ms, like most fast lights
git gud
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>>174349190
Nope, not a fan.
Wings'd snap off if you tried to use the damn thing.
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>>174348852
t. Warlord main

Warlord zone is as fast as Warden and Roach zones, except his deals 25 damage for some fucked up reason so it can kill on the regen threshold.
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>>174349425
500ms instant attack no change in guard + flicker

yeah i just need to "get good"
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Anyone else noticed this uncounterable combo Orochi and PK use on ps4? They'll be paying fair one minute (and I always enjoy fighting a skilled one) but if they start to lose they pull out this unbeatable combo.

They press "options, down, down, down, down, x" or "long press ps4 home button, x" or "ps4 power button"

Any tips on how to beat this?
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>matchmaking is so bad I have to go pvai with matchmaking turned off if I want to get the two dailies done in less than an hour
Wew I don't have time for this shit, fix when?
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>>174349749
Do it first, before they can.
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>>174349556
you got it
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Why does every single Unique weapon look like ass except maybe Lawbringer's Guimond thing? It's ceremonial, but not gaudy.
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>>174350231

I like kensei/orochis Guards/hilts

kenseis blade not so much
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>>174311862
How do you even parry an axe like his? Well, hatchet. I mean wouldn't he just control your weapon with his axeheads?
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>>174350063
>t.warden SB spamming shitter

i'll masterbait to your nerf
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>>174350231
The guimond axe looks pretty good and I really like the hammer on the reverse. I'm not a fan of the spike though, too embellished. Doesn't much look like you could impale a shuggo on that without it snapping off. The white shaft is neat, but the grip in the middle is overdesigned. I like the hammer head at the base of it.
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>>174350231
Unique weapon parts look good combined with other weapon parts not the full sets
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>>174350474
Is there a LB shaft without a dumb grip in the middle? One of the primary advantages of a polearm is that you can shift your grip anywhere along the length for versatility.

How about one with langets?
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if they dont release a quarterstaff wielding class soon im going to burn down ubisoft hq
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Why does this game have such a massive Soulsfag infestation? I don't need all of these XxXXKn1ghtArt0riasxXx types.
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>>174350625
Several don't have a dedicated grip, or have a relatively subtle one with most of the shaft clearly wrapped or textured for grip. Those that do have a big obvious handle look pretty silly.

http://alfalis.de/For_Fashion/#
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>>174350736

The biggest memers of the dark souls PVP community made videos about the game
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>>174350736
Where do you think all the honorfaggotry in 4v4s came from? Soulsfag fight clubs.
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>>174349510
They won't snap off because it's a videogame
Seriousyl are you guys genuinely autistic? Thus isn't even a game that warrants immersively immersive immersion.
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>>174350997
>>174351146

I thought soulsfags were the un honorable ones? People like Orobroro likes to get his dickstroked by his fans when he straight up ganks people and calls YOUR SALTY HAHAHAHAH BACK ME UP CHAT to anyone who calls him out
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>>174351153
If they didn't want realismfags to flock to the game, they wouldn't have included nods to realistic medieval combat, such as halfswording or visible gambesons.

For Honor is a remarkably graceful blend between the usual hollywood/fantasy aesthetic and realistic historical influences. Some people just prefer to lean more towards one side or the other, and you can't fault them for that.

Don't post your character asking for critique if you can't handle differing tastes.
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Is there some kind of frame data image that circulates in these threads? Or how long it takes for attacks to hit? Curious about raider's and law's timings
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>>174351521
There's a spreadsheet somewhere, but I don't have the link.
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>>174351409
Oroboro is similar to what you'd call a "Heel" in pro wrestling, if that makes sense.

Most Soulsfags are all PROPER BOW NO ITEMS NO HEALING FINAL DESTINATION and get super salty if you interfere in a 1v1, even outside of fight clubs in contexts that allow for multiple invaders.
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>>174349921
quality fucking webm friend.
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>>174351521

Oroboro is part of a collation of souls fags who all hide behind their fanbase for there le epic memes
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>>174351414
I posted the picture of the warden, that dudes not me, I'm still 50/50 about it and most likely will use it in dominion but not in 2v2 and the like.
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>>174350457
spoiler: it will be fucking nothing, since thy are giving the lawman 50/50 out of a block
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>>174349302
It looks so fucking good. I also use it on my cape.
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>>174349517
No it isn't. Warlords zone is 600ms. While Warden, Zerk, and Roach zones are 500ms and Pk's being 400ms.
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So characters all have different health, not by a lot, but they all also have the same damage reductions, right? I know shug takes more damage outside of his armor but does armor overall reduce damage taken? Like warlord heavy trades
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>>174350457
The "nerf" will just make it so he can't gb cancel or feint a fully charged shoulder bash. It'll make it easier to see what he'll do but it's hardly as much of a nerf that people seem to think.
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>>174352167
No difference. "armor" is about what things can and cannot interrupt a move.
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>>174352167
I think Lawbringer has the highest defense and second hoghest healtg, effectivly giving him the highest survivability since shugo takes double damage with his shield down.
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>>174352430
Law takes same damage as everyone else, and suggo takes +50%, not double.
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>>174351859
The fuck are you responding too? But I agree, Oroboro is a scrub.
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>>174349921
But I like playing
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>>174352593
Maybe it's just in 4v4 where he feels like he has higher defensebthan other characters, save warlord with all his bs passive feats that make him unkillable withount giving him revenge.
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>>174344848
I'm pretty sure that the hitstun in place after being nailed by a PK or Valk light makes it impossible for you to adjust your guard as berserker. I've felt it firsthand and there was a video/webm of it a few threads back. Valk or PK would land their first light and then the berserker just can't move his guard at all to adjust for the next one. He's "stunned" and his guard indicator is stuck as "black" and you basically are fucked and have to tank the next light. No blocking, no dodging, nothing goes through for the berserker.
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>>174352746
Law has a passive after a parry that increases his defence
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>>174352812
You can deflect the second hit
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>>174352812
Are you on console? Becuase you are straight up lying if your on pc.
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>>174348445
yup and his lights are as fast as PK and Valk's, have fun!
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Was this recent patch any good for the game?
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>>174353383
yes but it wasn't enough.

a step in the right direction but we needed about 20 steps

we aren't getting anything balance-wise for another week too.
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>>174353383
Gear was fixed
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>>174353607
Did they say what's getting changed in the next patch?
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>>174353115
I didn't know that, but I swear I can't block it in time or do anything. I'll have to test this against the bot

>>174353173
I'm on PC. It's been a while since I played berserker but I could have sworn to god that it was impossible to block the second hit if I ate the first. I'll just test it later
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>Console patch is tommorow

The console world is not prepared for my Rep 10 Kensei

JIN
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>>174353115
>>174353173
/5zh3do
its stupid and need fixing
>>174353115
maybe i have to try it but its still stupid
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>>174353667
Lawbringer went will become the ultimate turtle when he just has to block to win, pk nerf, raider buff, warden vortex small nerf and i dont remember the rest
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>>174353667
Nothing specific, but these are the things they promise will be touched.
>Warden shoulder/vortex
>PK lights
>Shugoki charge
>Lawbringer bugfixes
>Raider buffs
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>>174354212

He was always meant to be the ultimate turtle because he has literally no way of opening on someone and all his moves are based on defending first.
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>>174354306
What's wrong with the Shuggy charge?
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Are Kensei's side dash lights still unsafe in the newest patch?
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>>174354380
Yes but how are you supposed to beat a lawman that just sits there and wait for the block?
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>>174354387
In Ubisoft's words, the charge will definitely get adjusted. It was meant to be a fringe piece of Shug's kit, not one of his most core moves. Put bluntly, what should've been a move you use only once in a while when the occasional opportunity comes up is instead part of arguably the most damning mix-up in the game.
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>>174352430
He has slow guard change (.1 seconds slower after a block), and unlike shields doesn't get the superior block (auto block from all sides for .5 seconds after a successful block). So not as good as he's looks. But yeah his hp is 155 (shug gets 160) which is a boon.
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>>174354621

How is the LB supposed to damage you?
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>>174354621
>>174354887
You two can argue all you want, but the design is bad for the game. What they SHOULD do is change the shove on block to be a bash on receiving a hit. Then it's still a chain interrupter that makes the other guy think about the trades he has to make, and Law is encouraged to parry instead of just block for a free 50/50.
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>>174354887
Then instead of making him a near unbeatable turtle when they want to fix turtle meta they should buff his other tools and atleast make the block shove trigger off a perfect block
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>>174349921
NOICE
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>>174355026
I'm neither of them and I agree, LB should have an incentive to take damage, and a reward for taking risks
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>>174354097
the Law buff better be as good as it sounds
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So, when the fuck are we getting the Rainbow 6 treatment and getting our shit properly fixed?
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>>174355495
never cause the french cant makes games worth shit
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>>174355484
It's nowhere near as good as it sounds. His chains are a bit better and shove is better IF IT HITS, but mostly it's the same old thing.
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>Enemy team is breaking.
>Shadowrealm someone.
>It kicks me when trying to reconnect.
This is actually unacceptable.

Had zero deaths as well.
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Just played a dominion match against a team of Peacekeepers, orochis, and nobushis. They all rage quit leaving us with bots and a swift victory.

Suffer not the weeb
Bully peacekeepers
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>>174317209
>HIGH LEVEL FOOTSIE GAMEPLAY
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>>174354472
Please I need to know for tommorow
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>>174324284
Im such shit at fighting orochis that I always prepare to parry an orochis za even if they never use it
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>>174356604

Nobushi has the best feet
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>>174356236
When are we getting the idle and emote versions of shadowrealm?
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>play dominion
>enemy team has all the trap feats
>point C is nothing but traps and ledges for them to kill you with
>My team refuses to push any other objective
>Enemy team has 20 kills as there lowest

>mfw
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>>174357428
Where's the LB vs Orochi one where the top heavy just stomps the roach straight into the ground with his ornament poking out of the stone and twitching?
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>>174356671

They are unsafe.
Except against another Kensei, for whatever reason.
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Did anyone else notice how twitchy from PTSD the berserker is
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how do i play as a nobushi?
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>>174357642

thats just the shrooms taking affect
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first game this session and already a salty rage quitter
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>>174357642
Berserker has severe ADHD and Autism
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why the fuck can nubo attack right after kick?
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>>174358458
Because otherwise kick wouldn't be any good?
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>>174358612
It gives the nobushi room and if you are out of stamina and she lands it you are knocked over. It seems pretty good without the extra poke.
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>>174358178
>Autism

That's conqueror, the way he plays with that flail in his spare time.
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>>174358710
Not good enough to be worth the risk of it getting dodged and giving away a free guard break. It's not nearly fast enough to be worth that risk with no follow up.
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>>174358612
but she can attack even if it's dodged
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>>174296890
>People adapt depending if their opponent knows how to stop a heroes trick or gimmick
hory shet
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Are the patch notes for Raider and Orochi out yet?
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>>174358458
because it's unsafe as fuck, but also oppens another 50/50
>miss kick
>attack
>get parried

>miss kick
>they gb
>you attack
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>>174342879
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Why should I use anything that isn't the shoulder bash as opener?
I mean, anything else can just be parried.
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>>174359483
>he is not soft cancelling his attacks to not get parried
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>>174359606
That's getting patched out though.
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>>174359483
You shouldn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETgDKRUlgc
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>>174359262
I dont think this video is supposed to show how risky it is. Unless the warlord didnt punish all I saw was a nobushi fucking destroy that guy.
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>>174359829
why not?
it's exactly the same as feinting any other attack

>>174359881
what i said in that post, missing it opens 50/50 not in your favor
either get parried/gb'ed or land a light attack
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>>174359829
>notalent
>brings a weak character vs ppl that will use anything to win
>whines
i don't disagree with him that the game is unbalanced but every single video i see of him is whining and blaming the game for his own failures
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There a guide to make the berserk brand? seen it twice now but no clue how they made it.
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>>174360858
He only really whines against warden now

Before it was pre-nerf warlord and his whining was more than justified. He dropped PK too for the flak he was getting for using her
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>>174359226
Anyone?
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Why the fuck is the Season Pass so much more expensive than the difference between the Deluxe Edition and the Standard Edition? Isn't the difference between the editions just the Season Pass?
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>>174360858
>brings a weak characte
Nigger, Raider is Warden's hard counter because he's the only character that can cover multiple options with Dodge>GBC.
He was still losing because Warden still has 3 other options out of an unpublishable approach that costs no stamina.

Warden is broken at high level.
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>>174361742
Gold edition gives you the 30 days of champ status and the sunbeam effect on every character.
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>>174361901
No such thing as a hard counter
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>>174360082
thats bullshit many times i've dodge>gb a nubo kick only to eat a light
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Is there a comprehensive flow chart on the warden's bash out there?

I can think of a punish for all his options, except for cancelling the bash. Point anything out I've missed

>Bash
Dodge attack
Light (if yours is quick enough)

>Charged bash
Dodge attack (have to time it to the bash)

>Bash cancel to gb
Light
Heavy
Dodge attack
(Raider and Kensei can dodge while counter-gbing)

>Cancel
????

And against all mixups you can roll out.


Can gb punish a warden that cancels his bash?
If not, it needs to.

From what I can see, the only real changes warden needs are making his missed bash a free gb, gb punish if he cancels his bash and increasing the stamina cost for starting a bash to stop him spamming it in neutral
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First 5 tries. How's this? And how is everyone else matching up?
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>>174361901
>unpunishable
>warden is broken at high level
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>>174362952
What is that?
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>>174362381
cancel is literally back to neutral
you don't punish a feint
cancel can be punished by just gb'ing the warden mid dash, he has a long dash recovery
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>>174363115
Are you real right now? Just google reaction speed test you thick mother fucker. Christ does everyone need to hold your hand for you?
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>>174363325
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>>174363148
No other character has such a dangerous feint ingame. If he's going to start a bash mixup, he needs to put himself at risk, even if it's a feint

>he has a long dash recovery
Kek, no he doesn't. That's one of his biggest issues. You dodge the bash and he still counter-gbs you.
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>>174349190
FUCK i love the owl motif.

I got the Pouncing owl symbol for my Lawbringer unlocked but i can't use it on my warden.
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>>174363325
Yes
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>>174362952
>236ms reaction
>cant parry most lights, can barely even switch guard fast enough for pk/valk
It's worthless
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>>174363518
Wiould you hold my hand, anon?
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>>174362952
314

What the fuck is wrong with me? I've done this before too. Never managed to get below 260 average
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>>174361901
>unpublishable
Is Warden writing a book?
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>>174363424
i mean the regular dash
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>>174363694
>230 ms
>Regularly destroy PKs and Valks with back-to-back AD MORTEM parries

Everything became twice as easy when I switched to MKB
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>>174362952
Well, it confirmed the suspicion that my reaction time was shit.
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>>174364330
But I dun wanna, that shit cramps my hands even worse than controller. Maybe I should just play with console peasants
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>>174362952
I'm usually ~270. I swear I'm faster when I play through because I'm decently consistent at parrying things like Orochi's top light on reaction, though that might be because most roaches suck.

Prediction>Reaction anyways though.
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>Block a heavy
>Somehow fall down
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>>174357567
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>>174364534
Nothing in the game is faster than like 400ms
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>>174364578
Were you a Conqueror activating fullblock at low stamina, by chance?
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>>174363694

Why? The lights are 500ms.
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>>174363982
>>174364427
>>174364534

Keep in mind if you're on a shit or wireless connection it raises it. In wifi I was like 370.
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>>174364669
How are you chaining against him?

Does Conq's all-block not have superior block?
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>>174362952
>>174363694
These types of reaction tests are somewhat flawed as it is a single stimuli you are waiting for rather than reacting properly to many possible outcomes.

>>174364534
>Prediction>Reaction anyways though.

This guys right because when you predict you focus on a single outcome vastly increasing reaction times and are capable of parrying anything.
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>>174364643
Yeah, but latency cuts into that.
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>>174364427
>>174362952
git gud
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>>174364967

Difficult with light chains and lights that
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>>174365042
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>>174364950
It does not.
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So reddit killed this game right? Around release and for some time after, reddit was harping that this game would develop a deep meta akin to an actual fighting game and that people should reserve judgements until "the community actually learned how to play". This effectively allowed Jewbisoft to have a massive community center that would silence all criticism during the most profitable period when the game first released. Now we are getting community "outrage" and blackouts well after they already got what they want, just like all the other games in like sans Siege , releasing a shit product with no intention of long term support besides season pass content and patches and running away with the money.
Imagine how this game would be if places like reddit actually had the balls to speak out about all the problems.
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>>174364929
Also if you're playing on PC it's a world of difference too.
Being able to see twice the frames of an attack and using a mouse instead of a stick essentially doubles your ability to react.
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>>174365071
Im fully aware, it's impossible to predict everything but if you do correctly predict there is no faster attack than your reaction time, even flickered zones can be done if they are aparticularly flowcharty player. Just need to fight the impulse to fall for the flicker.

I think complex stimuli reaction time is closer to 350-400ms, with guard change and not being on the ball all the time is why light chains can be demonic especially when you throw things like console fps and deadzones into the mix, poor bastards.
>>
>>174365326
Everyone was saying "learn the game before you talk shit."

Well, everyone has learned the game, and now they're talking shit.
>>
>Shove
>[Bug Fix] Removed Super Armor from Hit and Miss Recoveries.

>Developer comments: Shove’s Uninterruptible Stance property was active throughout the build-up and recoveries. It’s now going to be only on the build-up.

What exactly does this mean?
>>
So, I got complacent in playing this game on the controller even on PC, would it help any significant bit if I played on M+KB?
>>
>>174366431
I think it means that after the hitbox for the push activates, the Super Armor fucks off
>>
>>174366431
Easier to dodge>hit or dodge>gb the shove, you no longer get penalized for hitting too early.
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>>174366183
Posts getting hundreds of upvotes on reddit saying that a meta would take MONTHS or LONGER to develop. Meanwhile in reality people figured out the cheese and character tier balance in like a week and nobody needed even a quarter of the current length of time to start criticizing things.
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>>174366575
response time for everything is much faster but honestly it's awkward as fuck
>>
>>174366969
How faster?

Also, how awkward is it? Can't be that bad, and I wanna git gud.
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>>174366431
you can gb after missed shove i believe, since the armor was preventing you to gb the lawman until he was fully recovered
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>>174367097
it's something you have to get used to, i started on m+kb so i did not have that problem
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>>174366575
Depends if you remove deadzones from your controller. Withount deadzones, your response time will be pretty much the same as a mouse.
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>>174347335
>"he doesn't lie to himself and others on a regular basis?"
>"better project really hard!"
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>>174367097
Blocking is literally a twitch, there is no stretching to gb, you actually have relearn parrying cause it responds to soon on mkb, it's just all far more responsive. But fuck is movement weird
>>
I'm not even mad
I won
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KB+M or joystick?
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>>174367864
Steering wheel.
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>>174367864
None, get a dance pad.
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>>174367864
KBM is faster, but mouse is also really easy to accidentally fuck up your guard with, needs a really steady hand.
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>>174367652
How are there so many people who find WASD movement weird? Did they not play PC games (i.e. first person shooters and the like) as kids?
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>>174367864
Touchpad+stylus
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>>174368015
Yeah but this isn't an FPS
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>>174368015
I never liked shooters
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>>174368142
Fine, third person shooters like Max Payne and the like.

>but it's not a shooter

We're talking about movement.
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>>174357428
Orochi so OP.

Here we can see an example where he can just disappear into thin air.
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>>174368203

what a fag
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>>174368250

It's still weird to control fighting games (or whatever this is) with wasd for me, controller feels better and the faster guard switch on kb+m advantage is kinda gone in a week as well when people get to adjust the deadzone. Which is already possible on PC now anyway
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>>174366431
If the shove wiffs it doesn't still have super armor.
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>>174368548
So, after we get to configure the deadzone, there's gonna be no reason tu use KB+M?
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>>174369070
I use a steel series controller so I already have this option.
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>>174369070
Gb/gbcs are still faster on kbm
Heavies/parries might still be faster through clicking than through triggers
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>>174366702
>>174366776
>>174367121
>>174368586
thanks
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>>174369310
>Gb/gbcs are still faster on kbm
Not really a reason for me, I have no issues with CGB
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>>174330230
Stop GB orochi dash lights, its a free top heavy IIRC
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>>174369070
They announced they're adding that?
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Orochi or berserker?
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Why is this happening
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>>174371350
Both suck pretty bad, but Orochi is better due to the flicker. Berzerker is genuinely one of the harder characters to play in duels and almost entirely reliant on utilizing his full toolkit, feints, parries, and deflects. Orochi is "AM I GONNA TOP LIGHT OR AM I GONNA ZONE??? HA HA :)" 5-10 times in a row.
>>
Defense or Attack for Warlord?
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>>174372154
Why not both?
>>
>playing with a peacekeeper on my team
>name is saltkeeper
you sly bastard
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>>174371680
Such bull shit. It's basically a 50/50.
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>Having a pretty good duel against a warden
>One of my shoves accidentally pushed him into a fire, draining the little health he had left
>He spams his jerking off emote as I spam sorry
>"Sorry for what?"

I wish all the community was like this
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>>174372232
You'll find your self out of stamina very very often with both. Defense is nice if you make a lot of mistakes, attack is nice if you get parries often. Pick on. Max attack will smash through a bar and a half of health with a heavy.
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>>174373260
Thats the guy from a gay porno isnt it?
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>>174371350
Roach is you want to play a punishing/interrupting style, Berkserker if you want to go hyper offensive with tons of feints to open up your opponent.
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>duel mode
>1v1 a shug
>he's a typical oni charge retard
>isn't that a little boring?
>shut up lucky trash you're not on my lvl

I thought people like that was a meme holy shit
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>>174370804
i know, this was before i learned that all dash attacks are light, except PK's
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>>174373670
He is technically right. Oni Charge spam is top level.
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>>174373670
Winning is never boring to sociopaths
>>
I got impatient

>>174375006
>>174375006
>>174375006
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Fuck tower ruin, worst brawl map
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>>174373383
Nothing gay about showing another man how to jack off by using someone's else's mouth.
In fact, I'd be right happy to show you.
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>>174294192
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>>174297113
Seek medication.
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>>174375345
did somebody once tell you
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