/fhg/ - For Honor General

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Reminder that rolling out of Shoulder Bash doesn't put you at a stamina disadvantage.

https://clips.twitch.tv
/BlatantAbstemiousSharkJonCarnage

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>>174452705
>reveived

is this game even alive anymore?

>>174453013
If rolling away is the only thing you can do against Shoulder charge, it might as well be a disadvantage.

Has anyone else not gotten their round 3 rewards yet?

We are closing in on end of round 5, goddamn ubisoft.

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>pastebin
>(embed)

The last OP bamboozled you real good here.

>>174453160
It's not the only thing you can do though.

>>174453028
Turns out it doesn't even matter and large amounts of players are unable to download the patch, me included.

I miss metaldad....

>>174452705
If nobody else was going to make it, perhaps there was no need to make it at all.

>>174453160
You roll away only if you keep guessing wrong

>>174453972
you scared him off with your hungry asspussy.

Orochis are literally unbeatable. You can't deny me. I fucking hate them more than anything else and I hate playing against half the shitty fucking spam characters in this mess of a game.

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So I'm not the only one that fought the Captains in the training yard, right?

>>174454560
If you are going to complain about the game when you only have a couple of hours in it then you need to go and stay go

>>174454560
well tell me anon what kind of orochi assraped you?Zonespammer?

>>174454757
I've been playing for ages and I fucking hate them and I hate you

>>174454750
All I can imagine is Momji in the background in a smug face

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>>174453028
god bless this woman and her perky nips.

>>174454750
>wait for a while to see if they do something else other than training
>nobushi charge all of them

>>174454826
Literally every single one I have fought, spamming dashes, attacks out of nowhere, hitting me through shit, fuckin done man

>>174453013

Fuck off, shill.

>>174454560
They can be very hard to deal with then they feint the top heavy and then go into top light. The best thing to do is expect top light and zone, and once you get his pattern you parry the top light and punish. Also doing your own attacks of course.

>>174455184
If they spam dashes just wait for them to come close and guardbreak them
keep your guard left/right and guard up only if you see them attack
don't blame us,blame ubicock if we hit you while you block,it something common that i see 99% of the time when i play orochi and i know it's annoying

>>174454875
>Waah i can't beat a char that only attacks from 2 sides
git gud look at the animation for the zone

>>174455058
Momiji actually got stuck in spawn during that run of the mission.

>no nerf for Warden
Depressingly unsurprising.
>Conqueror's notes actually include complaining that Warden couldn't shield bash into double light on him
Whichever Warden maining dev that's doing this needs to face the rope.

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>>174455823

This is something that more people need to realize. The animation is really what is the give away. The indicator could be anything, and they all look the same.

The people who reliably parry lights recognize the animations, even if they don't consciously realize it.

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>patch wasn't enough to rekindle my desire to play law, let alone duel with him.

All it really took was a law mirror match, and the subtle nerfs they made.

>patch finally unlocks the level 1 paints that were locked because uplay lmao
>now the knight/viking/samurai attack and defense paints are gone
why can't ubisoft do anything right?

>>174457221

I wish they'd remove the "You need X color paint for X team"

The only time you can use any of the other colors is in duels, which is almost never. It's not like everyone doesn't have a big fucking colored shield above their names. Let's have free-for-all colors.

>>174457495
I'd be fine with forced team colors, if all of the "special" colors you get from Outfits or Story Mode weren't arbitrarily restricted to neutral only.

>unlock outfit with a primarily blue color scheme
>not usable for blue team

>>174456736
Why does Warden need a nerf, exactly?

>>174457042
what

>>174458441
This, but for all colors. Why the fuck is Red Dusk not an attacker color? AND WHY IS THE CLOSET RED/BLACK/WHITE ALTERNATIVE FOR ATTACKERS REP 10? Why in the hell couldn't they just've let us pick out our own three-color combos, just with team specific options?

>>174459260
You new?

>>174459609
No, actually. I play high level players (rep 20+), and every single time they're able to counter Wardens. They've a glorified Orochi with an unsafe zone and a retarded top-light.

Go ahead, shoulder-bash at high level play and see what happens. That works on new players, but it's pretty easily countered if you realize the niche of the class you're playing. Adapt.

>>174459784
they're*

>>174459784
i mean there's a reason everyone bitches about warden pk and roach. Their shitter killers, so naturally only shitters bitch about them.

>ps4 patch just dropped
>get into duel
>PK
>pick Ken
>still can't open
>PK still attacks faster than the indicator
>get her down to one bar
>she just starts spamming zone
>die
>first round ends, they immediately start spamming emotes
>quit

Alll that hullabaloo for nothing eh? I'll just wait till ninja comes out then I'll see if the game is playable then.

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>tfw prefer dominion because it's the least chat-drama heavy mode

>>174459784
High level Warden is all about shoulder bash.

Just look at Legion, he is one of the best players at the moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETgDKRUlgc

If you don't play like him, you are just low level.

>>174460562
That's why I like it. People just shut up and play, for most part. Recently it's been a lot of "GREAT MATCHMAKING UBISHIT xD" and people ragequitting at the smallest thing or as soon as the enemy starts snowballing.

>>174460720
Tru3Talent isn't even that good. He had so many chances to punish Legion, but he didn't for the sake of the video. He punished him with a few heavies, and then stopped because he realized it was effecient, and didn't want it to seem like SB could be countered. He could've done the Raider unlock bug, but he chose not to. Y'know why? To make it seem like there's a problem, when there really isn't. He wouldn't have lost the third round. It was fairly obvious that the Warden was going to use the zone attack. If he blocked it, he had a free GB and would've won.

Also, Legion utilized soft-feinting.

>>174457042
Lawbringer patch changes

>The Long Arm now guarantees a Side Heavy Attack (but not Top Heavy).
>Light Riposte applies Stun on Hit (Hit and Regular Block recovery branchings into Chain increased to 200ms from 100ms).
>Parry now guarantees an Impaling Riposte or a Make Way.
>Make Way has Hyper Armor, damage increased to 25 (from 20).
>Swift Justice (HLH) Light Attack startup decreased to 500ms (from 700ms), Top Light Attack damage increased to 15 (from 10), Side Light Attack damage increased to 15 (from 8).
>Book, Chapter and verse (LHL) Top Heavy Attack startup decreased to 1000ms (from 1100ms), Side Heavy Attack startups decreased to 900ms (from 1000ms), Top Heavy attack damage increased to 35 (from 20), Side Heavy attack damage increased to 30 (from 20), Top Light Finisher attack damage increased to 15 (from 10), Side Light Finisher attack damage increased to 15 (from 8).
>Judge, Jury and Executioner (LHH) 1st Top Heavy Attack startup decreased to 1000ms (from 1100ms), 1st Side Heavy Attack startups decreased to 900ms (from 1000ms), Heavy Finisher Unblockable attack damage increased to 45 (from 30).
>Removed Hyper Armor from Hit and Miss Recoveries for Shove.

Where are those nerfs you're talkin' about?

>>174460557
Ken's side step heavy is also still unsafe on block

>>174460720
I'm a rep 17 warden main and i do use pizza combos but holy shit that is just stupid he is ONLY doing bashes.

>>174460993
The problem is that if you go for an atack the Warden can cancel and parry, if you dodge he can GB you and if you stay still he can just let it go.
That's pure guess.
You should be able to react to it.

And yeah, Tru3 isn't that good.

>>174461596
Because that's the best opener in the game, why trhow an atack that can be parried if you can just spam shoulder?

>>174454750
I kept crashing when I opened crates on that mission, so I sprinted through the whole thing to maximize my chance of actually finishing it.

>>174454750
Yea I ran in and just dueled the kensei while the grunts just slowly paced around watching then I executed him and cheesed it without fighting anyone else straight to the elephant

>>174461920
>>174460720
>>174456736
>>174453160

You have been shitting up the last 4 threads crying like a child about the shoulder bash. We all read the notes that its getting nerfed next week, bitching about it now isn't going to change anything till then. Your insufferable bitching is annoying. Stop.

>>174459405
>>174461080
In revenge you cannot get a heavy after a knockdown right off the bat anymore.

I also noticed that getting a top heavy feels less consistent (after dashing forwards). Unsure about this note though.

Long arm isn't as spammy as it was before. They definitely did something to it.

>>174462818
Pissed they're finally nerfing your cheese character, are we?

>>174460562
I would too except half the fucking matches some schmuck on the losing team ragequits right at the end & ruins it for everyone else.

>>174463445
I dont even play the warden, I main the fucking Kensai, but your acting like a child and your a band wagon bitcher. I bet you cried last week over the Shug and the week before that over the Conq. Just stop. Your fucking toxic.

Do we have new patch notes already?

>>174461920
>The problem is that if you go for an atack the Warden can cancel and parry
thats one of the options, it can't be done on reaction to attacks faster than 600ms

Is there any good way to use the flail charge on conq besides in ganks/team fights where you can bonk someone with a top heavy as when they do something?

>>174463545
It's funny how you still think you're talking to one person.

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>>174463968
Post the fucking (you)'s then

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Not sure whats going on im getting inconsistent results. Don't have gear on

>>174464129
most classes have a very hard to execute high damage throw combo

its done with action queuing before the throw finishes
for example
warden
>sidethrow > before the throw finishes > side heavy and move in that direction > q top heavy right after for 70 dmg

pk has similar with 93 dmg

and lawmans combo is i ,believe, >forward throw > dash > light > top heavy

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>>174464038
In before shopped.

If the Centurion isnt some Leonidas tier gameplay I have no interest

>>174460993
>he could have done the raider unlock bug but chose not to, to make it seem like there's a problem when there isn't
Do you even realize how retarded that sounds?
Read it again.
Do you see where some people would take exception?
Can you spot it?
>there's no problem because you can abuse a bug to escape it
Huh yeah ok, whatever you say t. scumbag warden

>pre-empting the charge with a heavy is an efficient punish and he deliberately stopped using it because viewership conspiracy bullshit
Anon, forgetting that the warden can cancel & parry that shit, you can see the irish-fag continue to attempt that, and the warden just stayed out of range.

>>174464469
What the fuck does that mean?
Valk is basically a Hoplite with a tiny shield.
Why would a re-imagined Roman Centurion be anything like a Spartan Hoplite?

>>174464469
I'll be a bit peeved if the Shinobi doesn't have some kind "get over here" ability with his kusari-gama.

>>174464769
you are wrong, >>174460993 he is right

raider is one of the best classes to counter warden
and he just stood there whining for the sympathy points

and
>not using "exploits" when they are allowed and then whining that someone uses them
better don't come to the tournaments or stay silent if you expect it to be like a regular 1v1 matchmade game

>>174464775
People are retarded man.

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>>174465108
>one of the best classes to counter him
>loses 46-54
k, whatever you say

>muh exploits are legit tournament tactics
cancer, and unsurprising from a warden

>>174465859
tournament play != regular matchmaking

unsurprising to come from a whining shitter

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>playing lawbro
>at the point now where everyone i face does the heavy -> feint -> grab combo or waits for you to do something
>no normal attacks land unless they're mid combo
>play against orochis & nobushis
>no penalty for them to constantly keep dashing backwards and creating gaps to spam heavies because you can't confirm a grab after a heavy parry.
>beserkers and pks just play the feint -> light spam game until you're either dead or they've been parried into oblivion, each fight's outcome feels random at best
>for some ridiculous reason big guys in for honor have slower guard changes, basically makes parrying/blocking impossible against these two when they know what they'e doing
>conqs just spam a vortex
>guard change is too slow for me to react between a warden left zone or an up light
>long arm of the law is one of the most telegraphed moves, basically worthless -- even if your opponent is in the corner he can dash in place for invul frames

lads I think I need to take a break. game just feels like i keep seeing the same shit every game and skill isn't really a factor.

>>174464832
I'd say there will be a feat involving tripping someone or pulling them in with the hook, if not an execution

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>good at warden
>good at conq
>good at fucking lawbringer
>still shit at peacekeeper

>>174466396
Good, we don't need another abusive PK spamming crap up in this game until we finally fix her spam for console. Just keep improvong every other character

>tfw still haven't picked a main

>warden
>looks great but is boring to play
>kensei
>looks like shit but is great fun
>LB (pre-patch)
>looks great but is shit
>Raider
>looks great but is shit

So what are y'alls priorities with gear stats? Like in each category, which stat do you boost at the cost of which other stat?

For me it's:
>boost Exhaustion recovery/lose Debuff resistance
>boost Sprint speed or Block Damage/lose Execution health regen
>boost Stamina regen/lose Revive speed
>boost Attack/lose Defense
>boost Revenge gain by defense/lose Feat cooldown reduction
>boost Throw distance/lose Revenge gain by injury

That's the non game-mode/character specific, all purpose stat setup anyway. Like I could lose Sprint for Execution regen and Block res for Revive if I'm using an Elimination dedicated build for example.

>>174466396
You post like that's a bad thing. You're not a total shitter Anon, be proud of that.

>>174466602
Raider is fun if you learn how to pull off all of the moves the hero has. Imo, it's pretty rewarding to actually outskill another player, but yeah, it can definitely be an uphill battle But I play for semi competetive fun

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>play as valk
>mix-up the shit out of a warden
>he gets revenge
>makes 0 difference
>more mix-ups
>execute him after a flawless fight
>error, session migration failed
lol you guys can dish it out but you can't take it, can you?

>>174466990
As far as I can tell Raider's moves are feint into stunning tap, waste half your stamina on an unblockable because you can't get a heavy off and then pray your opponent cant parry.

>>174466669
Remember, rep 3+ gear boosts 2 different stats but decrease one by a ton, and unless block damage or block dame resistance got buffed this patch, I wouldn't use em. Also debuff resist helps for lower effects bleed, stun and all that but just got nerfed for cgb time, which I barely discovered today, so it is still a pretty solid stat to buff

>>174467015
>play as valk
>these Wardens players, am I right?
,':^\

>>174467015
>hahaha my cancer beat yours
>can i get an upvote guyz?

>>174466602
Warden is pretty fun if you play a feint heavy game. I think my favorite is when I do top heavy, top heavy into fient then top heavy when they fall for the faint.

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>>174467140
Yeah, raider is sort of a worse kensei, but the carry is fun I guess, and buff musclegirls

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>>174467015
Did he even try to shoulder bash you? Did he even vortex you? Fucking Christ this is how Hitler killed the Jews.

https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/66c2xb/not_today_warden_not_today/

The warden didn't even abuse SB. He was just trying to spike him. It's like just because the other player is a Warden, it's fair game to be a shit head about it. It's a witch hunt on Reddit. Not sure why I read it.

>>174467832
9/10 times if you see someone bitching about Warden in game or in /fhg/ they're from reddit.

Fuck even bots can escape from the "vortex".

>t. kensei main

Why is it that I main LB and now post patch I can't win a match with him, especially a mirror match

>>174467832
>literally linking reddit

If anyone gives a shit about their thoughts or discussion just fucking go there and stay there holy shit

>>174468156
The issue lies in them being the majority. The voice of the community. It's a issue what they think, I read the Reddit posts because it can decide where this game goes in direction. They are fags though.

>>174460993
>High level Warden play doesn't happen because it easily gets countered
>Actually here's one of the best players nonstop abusing shoulder bash as Warden
>THE GUY HE WAS PLAYING AGAINST COULD HAVE COUNTERED BUT CHOOSE NOT TO SO HE COULD PRETEND SHOULDER IS A PROBLEM
Holy shit Warden mains are fucking pathetic

If the Warden's vortex isn't so broken what am I supposed to do as a Lawbringer? Dodge/Dodge>shove gets me hit and against a wall I have no idea what to do. Top light doesn't seem to come out fast enough either.

>>174468832
Take a couple bashes to find out if he cancels into gb a lot or just does the light attacks. If it's light attacks dodge and punish, if it's gb, cgb

Is there anything more boring in the game than a lawbringer mirror?

>>174469004

Problem is that LB can't punish it right now. Even if we did it only gives us a light.

>>174469131

Conq mirror.

>>174469160
Of you dodge the SB I think it's a free GB

>>174469459
lb goes into shove after dodge
if he waits, it becomes techable

>>174468832
I can top light the warden with lb just fine maybe you do it too late

>tfw cant afk farm brawl vs ai (victimless crime if you play until the other guy quits) after patch today
jesus i dont want to actually play this game, i just want to dress up my characters

>>174467015
there's no cure for this cancer son

it's terminal

>>174454560
Mmmmmmmm your tears sustain the orochi

>>174463968
If they're saying the same thing then the same responses apply, regardless of whether they are the same person, they might be wrong, but not for the reason you said.

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>>174467285
>>174467348
>>174470221
Baa ;^)

>>174467568
We were only a minute & a half into the match, he never had the opportunity lol

>>174467404
You'll only hit the first top heavy if they're a shitter, unless you mean wall stun from throw, in which case I'll try that. When I played him I liked GB-SH-SHfeint-GB-SH

>>174470973
In a minute and a half the Warden had plenty of chances. Your a sour cunt for assuming every Warden is SB fag and your the type of person to hang niggers because it's what the cool kids are doing.

It pisses me off so much that you can't get any of the fucking decorative items that the characters wear in the campaign.

>Instead of making these cool items a reward for beating the game on X difficulty, let's keep players from getting them and release them at a later time and steel price that makes them impossible to obtain without buying one of our packs!

>>174471119
Either way you cut it the feint game on the warden is fun. The top heavy deals so much damage it just crushes assassins.

>>174469131
I have a lot of fun with LB mirrors, good mind games, extra satisfying when you read them well and just body them. Mirrors are great in small doses because you know it's a not a matchup that's determining the outcome in any way, just skill and knowing the character.

>>174471218
k

>>174467568
"W-warden can't be beaten if they use shoulder bash! I refuse to believe it!"

Where can I watch the last tournament?

>>174471323
You're correct. It's the only thing aside Crushing counterstrike I like about warden. I don't like vortex, it's boring and unrewarding on a personal level because you know you're not using your skill to win. If I can't feel like I outplayed the enemy it feels like an empty victory, I hope the nerf fixes that so I can enjoy warden again, I know I can just refuse to use vortex if I want, but I'm not autistic.

>>174467568
>>174471218
>not every warden is a SB fag
Right, and not every conk is a bash-fag.
Except they're all bash-fags, just to a greater or lesser extent.

Ranked next week?

>>174471723
>generalizing Wardens.

Where did the shoulder bash touch you?

>>174471723
Well conk now cant counter guard break, or block during/out of a bash miss, so using it against a player with a brain is suicidal. It's now a liability that would actually make him better if it was removed so he could at least dash gb without bashing.

>>174471708
Same. SB mixup really sucks all the fun out of him.

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I really want this ornament and symbol.

I SWEAR IF ONE MORE FUCKING PERSON CALLS HIM KENSAI

>>174472617
make you wonder how much crap they have hidden in files

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>>174472687
Seriously, the campaign weebs look rad as hell.

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>See Valks sweep coming from a mile away
>Dodge
>Still hits me mid dodge
>Block valks second light
>Sweep still comes out

This bitch is buggy as fuck

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>>174472769
cant have Aiyu's head either

which doesnt even match her helmetless head

>disconnect
>disconnect
>disconnect
>disconnect
Remind me why I play this again?

>>174472262
Yep, I picked him up a few days ago and played him up to rep 1, had really good fun but by the time I was at rep 1, and good at vortex, he'd become boring. I honestly wouldn't mind shoulder bash if it worked like this:

>can't be used out of neutral or dash
>can only be used after a light or heavy attack hits (not zone)
>doesn't chain into anything, no lights, heavies or zone
>can't be cancelled into gb
>can be dodged
>knockback is 50% higher than LB's shove, but smaller easier to dodge hitbox
>can knock enemies into a wall for wall stun or hazard/ledge
>same stamina damage as shugs headbutts, but you also take the same stamina damage
>if it's dodged you can still block a heavy or cgb, but can't block a 500 millisecond light attack

This would eliminate the 50/50, while giving warden a good chance to knock into a wall for guaranteed top heavy, can be used to knock them back and retreat, can be used to exhaust them, but also has risk because it can be dodged, costs decent stamina (especially off a heavy bc you already used some) and gives the enemy a guaranteed light if you miss. What do you guys think?

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>>174473084
Because it's pretty good when it actually works.

>>174473338
This would make it useless. Warden already gets guaranteed top heavies from parries. Exhaustion is useless.

The problem is that right now it's low-risk high-reward. You want to make it high-risk no-reward. People would literally never use it outside of ledge kills.

>>174472769
that valk winged ornament is cool as heck. >>174473007
and its the only good looking helmet for female kensei as well

>>174473480
Yeah but with this you could parry-gb-heavy-shove-(into wall)-top heavy, would be a better combo, but also include risking getting it dodged, but you could always mixup when you do and don't use it. You don't think it would be more fun? I'm not saying it's good, but that's kind of the point, maybe remove the guaranteed light on a dodge?

You know what, as a warden main once defence meta is fixed i wouldnt mind a complete chenge of his bash, something like a stunning pommel strike

>>174473338
The current bash isn't going anywhere. The 50/50 will persist after the nerf. It's his design and it's working as intended. Most they will do is add a cost to stamina.

>>174473480
I think wall stun and ledging are high reward

>>174474175
All I want is it to be untechable if dodged and less time to cancel to GB. Is that too much?

fucking hell is raider guaranteed anything like at all? just tossed an exhausted nigger to the ground and he still managed to block my top heavy fuck

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Anyone else really down on their luck scavenging for a particular item here? I'm starting to get kind of upset, I'm getting everything else and I don't even want heroic weapon parts, I'm drowning in them.

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>>174471813
Right in my fun.

>>174474175
It's not a prediction, I'm not deluding myself, I just like talking hypothetical mechanical changes and how they'd change playstyles. I'm on /vg/ of course I find this asinine shit fun.

>>174474321
want wakkein shaft for my rep 5 raider, still hasn't dropped, spent almost all the steel I got between rep 3 and 5 on premuim packs for him

>log in
>go to play a pvp game
>D/C's right at the end, as usual
I guess it's bot-squashing again today, for the fourth day in a row.
When will they make the game playable?

>>174474498
They already got your money.

As a new player, should I bother doing the campaign mode?

Or just jump straight into multiplayer and start getting my ass kicked?

>>174474719
Story on realistic will make you get gud

>>174474719
Free steel, free boxes, get some fundamentals down and a couple cosmetics. Doesn't hurt

>>174474143
more melee options for warden would be awesome instead of bash, stuff like pommel strikes, a punch or kick or something, maybe something where he blocks a strike and follows through with an elbow to the face with his sword arm/ make him feel more like a dirty fighter/brawler

>>174474719
it doesn't really matter, just be sure to do the tutorials in the MP section (how to play) and you'll be alright. If you learn how to parry and get through guardbreaks, you'll be better than like 80% of players

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>>174474876
Just let us use the other parts of our sword, with the Warden's curret moveset he might as well be using a curved sword with no guard since he only ever slashes with it.

>>174471580
That's not what that Anon was implying at all, you spastic.

>>174475145
>emote point with sword
>doesnt do anything

>>174475145
True, would be nice to see it used as a blunt instrument or a stabbing weapon, and used to strike parts of the body other than the face/torso. What's mordhau? I don't recognize that move

>>174475145
I would honestly love it if instead of a SB we got a hilt strike like that, that does stamina damage and stuns.

>>174463885
I'm pretty sure it's just shit.

You have to time it to basically be a parry. What person would ever attack into you when you're charging your flail? Nobody, that's who.

If you're REALLY good at reacting quickly, you can release the flail on them as they try to gb you. I have no idea what the proper timing is on it though

>>174475145
An unblockable where he hits like in the webm after first top light would be cool too

>>174475565
about half a second BEFORE the gb from my experience, you have to read their patterns and lure them into a gb attempt

>time Revenge activation just before an attack hits me
>I get hit anyway

>time Revenge activation super early
>Berserker starts his slow ass DU ERT DAUDUR leap attack well after my Revenge activation and still falls on his ass

Someone explain.

>>174470973
valk is cancer but this is an amazing webm my friend

>>174475804
magic

>>174475517
mordhau's another hema-esque game coming out that some guy was shilling in these threads for a long time

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>>174476118
Mordhau or Mordschlag is a technique where you grab your sword by the blade and use it as a makeshift hammer, you retard.

>>174476371
damn you sure got me
I'm really impressed by your knowledge of obsolete fighting styles, care to show off your feder collection?

>>174475884
Valk isn't cancer, just block her fast lights (I know it's not that easy, but practice and it will be) and dodge the bashes and sweeps, yes spam play is annoying but on valk it's very beatable.
People keep throwing around terms like cancer without thinking. It's cancer if it's KILLING the game, it's killing the game if the only way to beat it is to pick a specific hero, or turtle, and that's not the case with valk, she, like LB and Orochi is just a noob stomper. And who cares if we lose noobs, they drop in and out at a consistent rate.
No high level player or influencer (like a popular streamer/youtuber with a large enough following to sway a large section of the playerbase) is dropping the game because of valk lol.
You're just Baaaa'd

>>174476459
wew lad no need to be so butthurt just cuz you got called out

>>174476607
I'm really butthurt by your ability to use wikipedia

>>174476693
you crying in a post sure seemed buthurt to me nigger

>>174476371
Thanks, learned something.
>>174476459
You shouldn't take being called a retard personally on 4chan

>>174476693

oosht keep digging that hole mate.

https://youtu.be/F_7K_4LzuKk

Roaches are just silly children.

no flame, im just a bab

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>>174476693
>he keeps responding

>tfw i thought the warden defense force was slowly disappearing but then they started pushing back just as hard as they lost the war

>>174476829
Nice (well really more like shit on the orochi's part), what's the input on that bleed combo?

>>174477056
>>>/r/eddit
You'll find plenty of whiny scrubs like you there. git gud

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It looks like it's easier to change guard on mouse, is it because of the deadzones on controller?

>>174477082
Deflect>Heavy>Gb for Bash> you can either sweep or lights and sweep or raw lights.

>>174477151
Yes but they will add an option to set deadzones

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>>174474321
for once I actually have the look i want for my "endgame" of the guy, but I can't get some of the armor stats I want. The other 2 I have done I got the gearstats I wanted immediately, but had to dig for good looking gear.

I really want to get my orochi done so I can decide on which character I want to do next, but at this rate im probably gonna have to get scavenge packs and then pay to change the armor, which right now will cost me 3000+however scavenge packs it takes to get the gear and weeb steel+ like 7000 steel for upgrades.

Thinking Kensei, Nobushi or Warden for my next grind target.

>4 games in a row
>last laugh still refuses to work
thanks ubi, guess im just gonna use catapult like the other shitters

Is Lawbringer fun to play? I'm looking for something new, I'm kinda bored of Warden.

>>174476693
jeez nigger calm the fuck down

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So this game is literally unfixable isn't it? There is no way to fix the turtle meta without drastically changing core mechanics, which is something that never happens.

For Honor 2 is the only way it will get fixed and who knows if they'll make it considering how (rightfully) savaged 1 got.

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Serious talk here /fhg/ no shitposting.


We all know this game has some grossly broken balance issues, yet we know that Ubishit is going to be rolling out a competitive ranked mode for all game modes next season with the release of the new classes.

That being said, I have noticed from my discord friends who are /reddit/ users on /r/forhonorcompetitive that there community is attempting to boycott the next patch if it isn't going to fix the bugs likes flicker or feint GB glitches that plague this game terribly.

What can we do as a small /vg/ community to try to better the game we all fundamental enjoy in some capacity?

>>174478186
abuse the bugs as hard as we can so more people complain

>>174477946
Lawbringer is pretty fun if you like to fish for parries. His moves feel great, but you find with his kit you will have to turtle a lot or be cancer and shove a ton.

Raider is the most fun for me, just because he hits like a truck and has a fun mixup with his heavies into jumps and basically tries for wall combos and exhausted 50/50s for MASSIVE damage.

I recently picked up orochi, and its pretty fun too, especially if you can git gud with the deflections and the anime attacks.

I want to learn kensei, but he seems a lot like raider in practice.

I would recommend any of these.

>>174478186
Honestly, probably nothing. There's what, 50 of us? And the image of us is tainted by 4chan. So we can't organise as a community, it'd just be 50 dudes. I've got no ideas honestly.

>>174478282
That seems counter productive and nigger-tier logic anon


the boycott that happened not too long ago got a good response and seems like an appropriate response

>>174478186
Devs already said they will fix soft feinting after the defence meta or they might turn it into a real mechanic

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Finally got the patch for ps4 today. I think I'm done with this game for a while, until major changes are implemented. They fucking ruined lawbringer. The one character I genuinely liked and knew took genuine skill, they ruined.

And they did it with 1 move: 50/50 shove off block (and probably even 50/50 shove in general). There's 5 times as many lawbringers out now and they all the play the same. No one attacks, they just wait for you, get the block then get the r1. No one parries, no one attacks. Just spam shoves. They need to delineate block and neutral shoves for the 50/50 to kick in. Because before I've never met a lawbringer I couldn't trounce through sheer skill. But now they've given every player a coin with which they decide when to flip, and now it's tedious as fuck to fight a lawbringer.

Still didn't normalize guard speeds tho. This game gets shittier with each update.

>>174478764

Good fucking riddance and dont comeback

This entire post is why lawfags are the real cancer

>>174478764
I hear berserker is underpowered right now, you can try him if you want a new hipster class so that you don't have to take responsibility for your losses

>>174478851
>.t warden/orochi/warlord/peacekeeper main

Fuck off faggot. He was in a spot before where a gentle touch from the devs would have made him competitive. But they overdid it; even I, who only ever played lb from launch can see that. But go ahead and call me cancer.

>>174478851
are you a law main or somthing? How did you come to that conclusion?

>>174478764

>Lawbringer is good now
>shit if I lose I wont have an excuse

>>174479117
>abloobloobloo my special snowflake class now has people playing him and now that he's good I don't have an excuse for when I lose

>>174478991
What is with the projecting tonight?

Where did I mention my win loss ratio? Where did I mention difficulties with other classes?

What's the proper response to such a cancerous comment?

>>174479117
not even that guy, but so fucking what? Your post makes it clear you don't like the character based on his appearance or anything other than the fact he was a crutch for you to say, "Ha! I beat you with LB!" or "Wow the only reason I lost is because I am playing LB."

How do you think Valk players felt when she was buffed? I don't see Valk mains bitching like a child that they aren't a special snowlake playing a hero that takes"genuine skill" anymore.

>>174478991
>>174478851
>he hates that lawbringer is where shitters flock to now since he has a 50/50
>lol hipster

Some of us actually want to earn our wins, anons.

>>174479271
>>174479286
Is this the cancer of the community or just the board? This is either some serious projecting or trying to read to much into a very simple post.

I'm not making excuses for losing, I'm not justifying winning. I'm pointing out the awful decision to give lb a 50/50 off a block. Go ahead right now and tell me it was a good decision. Tell me how it helps to break the defensive meta when you get punished even more for attacking.

You either agree with me and are just being shitty, or disagree because you're shitty anyway. Which is it?

>>174479637
>>174479650

The lawbringer circle jerk has infested this general since launch

>>174479308
You don't need to mention it, I can infer it from everything you said

>they ruined lawbringer
already off to a good startto whine
>the one class that took genuine skill
"when I win it was skill, when I lose it was because he was underpowered"
>there's 5 times as many lawbringers now
"mom they're playing MY class! and they're only doing it now that he's good!"
>and they all play the same
"wow they're utilizing his new toolkit now that it got buffed what the hell!?"
>before I've never met a lawbringer I couldn't trounce through sheer skill
again, "when I win it's skill, when I lose it's because LB is underpowered"

Are there any good funny for honor youtubers? Marco yolo made some pretty good montages but I wanna watch a for honor youtuber who ledges and 2v1s and rakes in all the salt for entertainment

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>>174479452
You true nigger I picked lawbringer specifically because I think he looks cool. I always like seeing fellow lawbringers. I always felt the comradery between us. But now it's like fighting a warden. It's tedious. It's not fun. Winning doesn't take skill anymore.

I'm not mad that more people play him. I'm mad that more people play him because he's now on the same level as the warden.

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>>174479948
lawfags ladies and gentlemen

>>174479948
>he's now on the same level as the warden.
lmao

>>174479846
His boosted damage on every raw light/heavy is decent incentive to play him more aggressively at least for me I don't get why people are bitching so hard about it reinforcing the turtle meta. It literally made his chains faster and more damaging, you only need to wait for a block and shove if you're a shitter who can't feint or mixup

>>174479637
>e-every character that isn't mine doesn't take skill! they're just using gimmicks and crutches!
>LB gets buffed to be in line with other heroes and suddenly LBs cry about how he's ruined and they're done with the game or are switching mains
>this somehow isn't hipster or an attempt to find a new class that's underpowered

>>174479637
see
>>174479948
>I'm not mad that more people play him. I'm mad that more people play him

>>174479846
You really can't see the forest for the trees can you. Like I said, you guys are reading to much into a simple post. See>>174479948

You are tangible cancer.

>>174479948
I don't like the change either lawbro, it didn't address his core problems and has now made him a shitter-stomping Warden-lite, but you can't give a fuck about other people.

Me personally, I'm still going to play him because he's cool.

>>174480083
>taking my words out of context

Truly, blatantly, disingenuous jewery. Fuck right off.

>>174479948
Can we just drop this discussion he's not even top 5 and you can choose to play him however you want. Nobody is forcing you to use block-shove at gunpoint. and it's pretty easy to deal with. These discussions are getting fucking repetitive

>>174480116
if it was a simple post, he wouldn't have whined about it "ruining" LB and him being done with the game
if it was a simple post pointing out why a mixup is bad for LB to have, he wouldn't have gone on about sheer skill and more people playing LB

And here I thought Waarlords were delusional

>>174479886
anyone? or is this a lawbringer general now

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>>174476486
>Baaaa'd

Any nigs on PC trying to play 1's or party up for 2's?

>>174480365
Iron Pineapple is always a good place to start for that salty goodness.

>>174480232
they're still your words, faggot
it doesn't matter why you're mad about more people playing him, it matters because of the fact you're mad that more people are playing him regardless

>>174479998
Not an argument.

>>174480062
So which camp do you belong to? You see I have to ask because you couldn't be bothered to make a point in your condescending reply. Are you of the mind that the warden has a 50/50 or is just overpowered? Because I was drawing the comparison to him in the sense that when youre on the receiving end of a lb or warden, it's not about skill, it becomes about guessing.

>>174480449
Thanks, will check out

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>>174476371
Why were people so bad at illustrating fight manuals?

>>174480389
Thanks!
I got this!
Good fight!

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>>174480530
Baaa!

you are welcome

>>174478159
Just believe anon, remember a living meme is president of the USA and ultra right wing /pol/ practically worships the image of a frog from a homosexual furry diaper fetish comic.
Truly we are living in the
>current year

>>174480328
Yes it was simple because I said what I meant. But you over analyze and twist my words in order to belittle me and my opinion.

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So out of all the people who had no problem insulting me over my choice of words in expressing my displeasure at the lawbringer rework, who would like to actually discuss whether 50/50 shoves are a good thing?

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Post your squad!

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You will never be as cool as this captain.

>>174480860
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but after nerfing characters whos bread and butter was this kind of thing, why give it to someone else?

It don't make no sense to me, senpai.

>>174480860
>mad about mixups
>in a fighting game

literally, figuratively, and unironically get good, you'll be seeing a lot more lawfags now shitter

>>174481091
Is a fighting game supposed to be about skill or chance?

>>174481220
is this strawman that "actual discussion" you mentioned?
Whatever you don't like is cancer right?

>>174480860
I think it's a good thing, but not off block.

>>174481220
>m-muh skill
if you can't react to mixups, then you have no business discussing a fighting game when there are far worse things you could have to deal with
Try dealing with Vanilla Sagat you reverse tierwhore

>>174481220
Reading your opponent is a skill, ask anyone who's actually good at fighting games and has a history of playing them.

Real fighting games also don't have the fastest attacks be sluggish 500ms moves anyone under the age of 30 can react to with one eye closed.

>>174481091
>a fighting game
AHAHAHAHAAA

>>174481360
>>174481472
Is a fighting game about skill or guessing correctly? Please answer you fucking hivemind cretins.

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>>174481220
Faust would like to say hi.

But really, while I am relatively new to fighting games, setting up 50/50s is pretty common in fighting games.
I know at least 2 characters I have tried on GG:XRD Rev have 50/50 setups, and at least raven has a vortex.

The shove mixup isnt that bad imo, but the shove off the block is pretty nuts, and will probably be tweaked.

>>174481582
>you didn't answer my question in the arbitrary guidelines I set!
Fuck off and see >>174481483

>>174481483
I understand you need to be competent in reading your opponent.

Tell me where the "reading" factors in when a lawbringer blocks your attacks and then shoves you for a 50/50. Inb4 don't get blocked

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>>174481616
inb4 someone replies to you saying that anime fighters don't count.

>>174481663
But you didn't answer my question at all, you just insulted me for asking it. Try harder.

>>174481790
>LB shoves you after he blocks your attack
>you read him and figure out he's going to go for a gb or you read him and figure out he's going for a light
>you react accordingly

wow that sure was hard

>>174481790
It's not a literal coinflip unless the Lawbringer is an AI opponent.

It's like how you can often tell that a Warden prefers to cancel his SB into GB 80% of the time and rarely does raw bashes. Or that he likes to alternate them. Human players have habits and patterns.

Hell, this is why it's a standard for fighting games (or FH's duel mode) to have multiple rounds. The first round is largely for feeling out your opponent, and the better player may easily lose the first round only to handily win the match.

>>174480945
I thought that was hilarious how there was one noname useless captain in apollyon's usurper circle

>>174481908
>I answer your question in the way you want me to answer it
>If I say it's skill then you say "t-then that makes 50/50s retarded!"
>If I say it's guessing then you say "wow what a faggot argument invalid"
I thought you were the lawfag that hated 50/50s, but here you are trying to set one up already

>>174481908
He did answer. Guessing correctly is a skill, so your question was flawed since they're not mutually exclusive choices.

Is slippery any good or is fireflask better?

>>174478764

What absolute tripe you peddling sir, lawbringer is fucking cancer now, and it's getting buffed again.

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>>174482080
>useless

Nigger if that captain is hanging with the Warden, Holden Cross, Mercy, and Apollyon herself, you know he's a badass in goon clothing.

Speaking of captains, I want the samurai shield captain armor for Kensei.

Just a heads-up. If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from the LAW.

>>174482243
He thinks they ruined lawbringer because he's good now and can't rely on his crutch argument of being underpowered when he loses

>>174482080
Someone post that one webm where the player gets btfo by a Captain.

>>174482334
But that wasn't the Warden, Mercy, or Holden. Those were different niggas. That isn't Mercy's mask, or Holden's shoulders. This was at the point where they'd defected

>>174476371
are you retarded? mordhau is a game you fucking nigger

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>>174480907
>character preview makes everyone appear the same size
had to fix that.

>>174482345
So a typical pre-patch Law main, then. Disgusting.

>>174481990
Oh gee that sure was easy. Thanks for explaining it. Now go do it. Oh I'd be really pleased (if possible for you) for you post some clips of you reading lawbringers when this happens. Surely you'll never ever make the wrong decision in this coin flip.

>>174482045
I get that, I'm slightly exaggerating when I say coin flip. But you fail to consider that while you have the capability to observe habits and patterns, your opponent does too. If you guess properly, they will factor that in as well. The whole situation will approximate randomness.


I'd also like to point out again, that I'm mainly annoyed we get the 50/50 off a block. At least from neutral you have the capability to avoid the 50/50 all together. But the whole crux of my rant is that the 50/50 can be triggered off a block. Not a parry, a block.

>>174482563
And where do you think your irrelevant game got its name from, shill? Go back to your kikestarter backer forums.

>>174482563
This is bait.

>>174482125
Yes thats the point in phrasing it you literally retard. You spoonfed yourself my argument. That's exactly it: if it's about skill, why have a 50/50? If it's not about skill, then your whole first condescending reply was full of shit. Just stop

>>174482152
>people who win the lottery are skilled

Audible kek

>>174482657
>if you can't do it then that means it isn't true
>if you ever fuck up a read then that means you lost the argument

It's almost as if humans aren't robots that read inputs and make mistakes. That still doesn't mean that you can throw a tantrum about a mixup

>>174482863
Just because you can set up an argument where there's no possible way for you to lose, doesn't mean you're correct. It means you're intentionally trying to railroad someone into the answer you want

>>174482243
But that's what I'm saying, that he's cancer.

>>174482345
The only excuse I have with lawbringer is that his (among other heros) have a quarter of the guard switch speed as other heros; which is a valid complaint. Stop projecting faggot, I'm not justifying anything.

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Nice quality discussion here guys.

Main lawbringer poster here.

I've completely misread either the quality of the community or maybe just this board. Maybe it's just me but I am genuinely, properly, surprised at the pure condescension of some people when presented with what I felt was a valid complaint. Because there's no ID's here I'm just letting it know that I give up. I hope you people continue to rot in your miserable, cancerous, existences. You know who you are.

Why are all attacks in this game so damn slow?
Isn't this supposed to be a fighter? Make it fast.

>>174483668
I'm a different poster entirely, that agrees with you, but this is 4chan. Occasionally good discussions are had, but most of the time, it turns into what you've experienced.

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>>174453972
im still here. There is just no reason for me to post under an alias anymore.

>>174483689
Slower is more accessible which means a larger audience.

>playing duel
>warden (me) v kensei
>i don't vortex or anything like that, just trying to main a new character cause Raider is at rep 10
>crush this dude because he cant fucking parry and i can
>third round 2-0 me
>get him to low health
>he slowly goes to ledge
>i know what hes doin
>tries to GB me, I CBG and he falls off ledge of of shove of the CGB
>leaves before he dies
>the third takedown didnt count

wtf man just take your losses

>>174483668
No one likes tier hipsters, just accept it.

>>174484393
(except all the tier hipsters)

>>174484248
Nearly everyone in this game is a salty autist who will jump through every mental hoop to avoid a loss. Just gotta hope you find a normal player man.

IDEAS

Character shit
>Kensei
>Doom of the Kensei now cannot be parried
>but it also can't be feinted normally
>soft feinting still works but that can't be feinted either

>Orochi
>reduce the speed and damage of top light slightly
>increase speed slightly on side lights and heavies
>make zone punishable on block
>Riptide Strike now has invincibility on startup and can be feinted

>Warden
>reduce speed/increase window on Crushing Counterstrike
>shoulder bash can not no longer be feinted, and consumes 100% more stamina
>new chain
>heavy, top light, side heavy
>first heavy is a normal attack, top light is a follow up pommel bash, and the side heavy is much faster than normal

>Conqueror
>shield bash is now a purely defensive move
>light parries guarantee a heavy shield bash that confirms into side heavy
>heavy parries or superior block heavies guarantees a light shield bash
>light shield bash can now immediately be cancelled into charge flail and gains a charge level immediately
>charge levels go as follows
>half second charge: 35 damage
>two second charge: 45 damage
>three second charge: 55 damage and is an unblockable/unparryable move
>new chain
>heavy, light
>first attack is any heavy attack, even charged, followup light is faster and does more damage (15)

General game shit
>guard break damage nerfed
This will put more priority on spacing and positioning. By not being guaranteed a heavy attack on a guard break, your first instinct is to look for a wall throw for more damage.
>guard break buffed greatly
Guard breaks almost never work when two competent players are going head to head. Unless it's off of a feint or a parry, it just never happens from neutral. Guard breaks no longer chase dashes, but guard breaks now have a much more strict window. You're no longer able to guard break cancel when you hear the "thud", if you've done it by then you're too late.

>>174484482
Tier hipsterism is just the opposite extreme of tier whoring. Both are cancer. Just play the character you think is cool, without caring who others play or why.

>>174484012
I was searching a bit and seems like the community despaises fast attacks and still they complain about turtling. wtf

>>174485462
They just don't like loosing. Ledge them all.

>>174475804
I guess Zerk's just that bad.

>>174476829
Okay, why do I keep seeing brunette Valks even though she has blonde hair in the character menu?

>>174486309
Helm changes it I think

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>>174485109
>says the guy that calls out tierwhores & tierhipsters as cancer

>>174476829
>not even 1 GB mixup
why was he even mad?

>>174477082
that's their deflect-heavy, and if you mis-time it you've parry-baited yourself

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>>174485109
I bet you play PK don't you?

>>174485050
>unparriable
this is a non-starter.
Such a thing doesn't exist in the game except via the unlock bug.
Don't go throwing a new mechanic into the mix so hastily.

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swirly shields a best

>>174487161
There NEEDS to be a new mechanic to break turtling though. Something that isn't an unfair offense but is strong enough to beat people that just sit in one spot all game blocking.

>>174488078
how would an unparriable not be abused tho? generally asking, i agree that turtling needs to be countered but

>>174488078
Wasn't feinting supposed to be that check?

>>174488078

The kappa build apparently fixes all the issues

and before the twitch shitter meme its the devs fault for naming it

>>174488423
so why cant WE play it

>>174488423
is kappa confirmed?

>>174483689
If they were too fast to react to, there would be no way to block/parry anything except by guessing.

>>174488423
I keep hearing about this "hyper aggressive" build

Id like if the devs said something about it

>>174488207
You can still dodge it though. And in the instances I provided they're more than telegraphed.

>>174482531
Pretty sure it was a flashblack and I'm pretty sure that Asmodai is in the scene, the captain that gets stabbed is probably spazzing out about the Apollyon allowing vikings to assault the Iron legion's main fortress.

>block Warden zone
>guard break
>teched
Instantly left the match

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Ok this is a bit autistic but here goes. Female wardens are retarded, if she's wearing a mail coif then why does her ponytail stick out. I'm just sayin.

yeah... explain that one female warden players who constantly say "but muh stupid male bulky shoulders"

>>174489765
She has very short hair so it doesn't stick into her armour. She wears a clip-on to make herself feel more feminine.

If a peacekeeper lands a light, is the second attack able to be blocked? Ive been having a hard time keeping up with the light spam from Peacekeepers, usually I just attack none stop till they run away.

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>>174489765
Nobushi is the only female character that makes any sense.

>>174489818

sadly this will probably be the best explanation that i get.

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>viking symbol
>has a anime as his emblem

>playing brawls
>save my teammate from getting killed
>he stands off to the side and lets them gank me because it's the "honorable" thing to do
Yeah fuck this game mode

>>174490054

Yeah i think you're right on that one desu, pk i can kinda get sorta.

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>>174490165
I wont abandon you Anon... Find me.

>>174490350

That is one ugly warden.

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>when they leave so they dont get a loss and waste everyone else's time

Stream tomorrow?

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>finished my order
>relentless duelist (25 takedowns in duel)
>go play a round in brawl, connection lost, had to restart game
>relentless duelist isnt done now, need 1 more kill
>still got the xp from last time
>completed again and got ANOTHER 1500xp

im not even mad

>go up against a massive shitter Warlord
>he has the worst shit talk ever
>eventually just mashes on me while I'm typing
>a few minutes later
>playing a brawl
>some guy mentions one of the gaylords is streaming
>decide to go into the stream and listen while talking shit for maximum comfiness
>while looking for his channel I see that the guy I was just playing against in duel is streaming
>go into his stream
>he's some spastic college kid with a Warlord main at Rep 15
>92 viewers

>>174490576
I leave half of my brawl matches because people want 1v1's and I don't play that shit.

>>174491742
I leave half my brawls because its against the same fucking heros. Im tired of fighting Valks, Shugs, and Orochis. I havent seen a raider in 5 days.

>>174491917
I envy you. Raiders are the biggest shitters in the game. They bitch about their block stance speed then do nothing but random light attacks. They bitch about not being able to open up turtles and then just wait for a single light attack into heavy to get two bars and a mixup. They're BY FAR the biggest whiners in this game and the character isn't even that bad. No character in this game is bad, it's just that the top tier characters are so dominant.

>>174491639

>he's some spastic college kid with a Warlord main at Rep 15

massive faggot clearly, and deserves zero views.

>>174492060

I dont get the stance switch meme

How the fuck would different weapon handle the same way?

>>174492237

How does a katana cut through heavy armor?

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>>174492060
I main Raider and do none of this. I dont even see why hes being buffed
then again ive been playing him since beta.
Personally i think he's the strongest character in the game. I kill other people in 3 hits or less sometimes

>>174493054
the will of japan and steel folded over 50,000 times.

so it doesn't.

>>174490054
This.

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>dueling with warlord
>come up against a raider
>rep 2
>i started with warlord yesterday
>uh oh
>smash him 3-0
>at the end he types "laggy"
I'm ashamed of my victory

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What do you guys think about my Heavy infantry lawbringer? Meant to look like a 15th century pikeman/knight sort of character.

Lawbringer turtles are the new cancer

>>174475517
You hold the sword upside down by the blade and slam the pommel down on the top of your opponents head (giving concussions or spinal injury) or use the cross gaurd to hook around the opponents neck for wrestling.

>>174493676

You can block their shove light you know. If you think they're cancer now you're just horrible. They're barely better than they were pre-patch.

And if you're getting hit with long arm then kys.

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Does For Honor even have a matchmaking system?

>>174493824
Something about the default warlord is so comfy.

>>174475145

He uses the hilt in an execution.

>>174493824
Ok, right after this guy beat me twice 3-0 he taunts at the end.
Why is it always orochis?

>>174492060
but raider and zerker are objectively garbage

over half their kit is useless. sure the other characters that are top-tier are dominant, but it's because raider and zerker fucking suck.

>>174493059
he sucks because a good player will never fall for his feints, much like against a kensei

>>174492237
sometimes game balance trumps muh realism my dude

>>174493824
No. It just nets whatever 2 people are available within 300 ping of each other..

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>>174493676
They aren't fun to fight, that's for sure.

The mirror match is really annoying, too. Granted, I'm impatient as shit so i don't turtle well.

I think once they nerf the shove off block it will be less cancer. I will continue to play law though, because polearms are cool, the fashion is amazing and I like parries.

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I'm definitely switching factions after this season's over. Knight players are the most braindead fuckers on the planet who don't seem to understand how territory war works. And don't give me the "The Knights are the faction that have jobs and don't have time to play all the time!" meme, Knights are just the shitter faction.

Any PCfags down for 1's for 2's?

>>174493817
>you can block their shove light

Honestly it only works half the time. I'm aware his shove light is SUPPOSED to be unblockable apparently but that makes it worse. The shove light shit is obnoxious and I'll have my guard matching theirs and they just hit me anyway on some characters at some times because of some arbitrary hitstun. Or i'll get hit by a heavy and their light followup is unblockable because of hitstun as well. You don't know what you're talking about, Lawmain