/smtg/ - 真・女神転生 Shin Megami Tensei General

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>their

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>>174114771

Sons of Man, awaken!

playing smt4 as my first game. bought/played 3 ages ago and found it way too brutal (still have it somewhere though)

is the persona series good? 4 looked way too anime for my tastes

I wish there was a list for which games added new 3d models or revised old ones. Raidou's games have a shitton of revisions like bony Legion, mix-and-match Raja Naga, and it'd be cool seeing how much shit actually originated in NINE.

>>174115503
>Persona 4
Its literally a shitty watered down JoJo Part 4 expy with none of the charm, taste ,or nuances that made it so good in JJBA. Start with Persona 3 or better yet try your hand at Nocturne if you have a PS3. You can buy it and Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 off the Playstation Store and they emulate well.

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How do we fix SMT

>>174115826
By adding even more waifus and husbandos.

>>174115826
demon s.links
I'd love to go on a date with Krishna

>>174115706
persona 3/4 look way too anime for me honestly. 2 seems more up my alley but im getting mixed opinions

after i finish 4 im gonna go back to 3 for sure. i have dds in a box set somewhere im pretty sure

Post Jack Frosts

>>174115503
if you cant handle smt4, you might as well just go play persona 4.

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their neutral

>>174116439
>P2
>Less anime than P3/P4

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MSPAINT A MYTHOLOGICAL THING FROM YOUR COUNTRY OF BIRTH AS IF IT WERE A SMT DEMON

HERE'S TIDDILICK THE FAT FUCK FROG, AS SEEN IN CHILDREN'S STORIES BASED OFF ABO DREAMTIME STORIES

HE'S A SELFISH SHIT WHO DRANK ALL THE WATER AND LEFT EVERYONE ELSE HIGH AND DRY, BUT SOME EEL GAVE HIM A GIGGLE M8 AND HE LAUGHED IT ALL OUT

I'VE INCORPORATED "POPULAR CULTURE" SUCH AS THE LAUGHING EMOJI AND PEPE THE FROG TO MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE TO A MODERN AUDIENCE

Gonna replay SMT4 after not touching it for years. Are ailment builds worthwhile at all?

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>>174117686
axehandle hound, the axe head will open up and have teeth and shit or something.

>>174115826
Jack Bros 2

>>174115826
Demikids reboot

>>174115826
Demonfu face petting mini game.

>>174115826
Shin Megami Tennis

>>174115826
Trauma Center x SMT

>>174119097
Shin Megami Tetris

>>174115826
Put actual effort into the games.

>>174117686
Was googling Persian and Zoroastrian demons in Megaten and I came across Michael's article on the SMT wikia. Who was the "Angel of Persia" Michael was fighting?

>>174119316
>demon summoning doctor
>uses demon skills instead of tools to perform operations

>>174119318
Shin Megami Benis

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>>174119763
That one is already real.

>>174119551
Did some googling, might be this fucker?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobiel

>>174120002
>>174119551
>Ed Bighead decided the land allotment of nations based off Isrealite population numbers
What a dumb Lawman.

>>174118373
I've never seen anyone claim to do an ailment build, so I assume they're either not worth it or they're gold waiting to be struck. Play cancer samurai for us and tell us how it goes. I wonder if it'd work for negating smirk at all.

>>174115826
more Strange Journey, less animu

>sees SJ deep
>Why?

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>>174122061
Because.

>>174122554
This guy needs to cosplay Kamoshida.

>>174121365
>ailment build
is that just taking/fusing demons of your alignment or is it like if you side with law you are phs if you side chaos your gun/magi or some shit

>>174122812
ailment, noun, 'an illness, typically a minor one.'
It's causing poison and sick and bind and shit. You can't get Smirk if you're suffering an ailment, so that's one perk it might have/

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Fuck chinks and fuck americans!!

>>174123215
He can't keep getting away with it.

>>174122723
go leave a coimment oin his assumed deviantart account

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>>174123215
>"Generally speaking I think Shiro Ishii actually did nothing wrong."

Absolute madman!

>>174122889
fuck i read it as alignment, sorry bud

>>174124239
"Honestly China would have benefited from Japanese occupation."

Holy shit!

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>>174124239
>So I made a first script draft for IV, where Isabeau was initially a korean descendant, and only Law/Chaos endings were canon. But Doi design was too beautiful so we turned her japanese in the final scenario.

What is wrong with him?

>>174125068
kek

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>>174114480
>their will be our tag for a week

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World of SMT when?

>>174127350
hopefully never

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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

a hee to the ho and away we go

>>174129462
so wait where does Soul Hackers place?

>>174129462
no mt2 no vote

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How many Hoys could a Hoy boy Hoy if a Hoy boy couldn't Hoy Hoys?

how the hell do ya'll niggas finish the palace on the first day entering? i'm dying more in this game than I did apocalypse on apocalypse

playing soul hackers.
what's a good path to put Zeed on? he's been pretty useless because i'm not exactly sure what to do with him

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hi every1 im neutral!!!!!!!
holds up chalice of hope my name is flynn but u can call me t3h m0r4lly gR4y pr0t4gg !!!!!!!! lol…as u can see im very indecisive!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet neutral ppl like me _… im a casualry (im mature 4 my caste tho!!) i like 2 read manga w/ my girlfreind (im lesbian if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite unclean product !!! bcuz its SOOOO neutral !!!! shes neutral 2 of course but i want 2 meet more neutral ppl =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
MASAKADOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein neutral again _^ hehe…impartiality!!!!!

love and true ending,

t3h m0r4lly gR4y pr0t4gg

>>174130907
There's really not much to it.
Hit weaknesses, use Ryuji and Yusuke for Phys so you can use either Ann or Morgana purely for post-battle healing and get Takemi's social link to 7 for the SP regen accessory.
You can also buy cheap SP healing items at some vending machines.

>>174131737
>flynn is great in IV and made him feel like an average guy just doing the best he could
>IV:A makes him a mary sue
fuck this man

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Raidou 1 is still really fun, but my god I've been stuck on something for some time.

For some reason I can't find how to make a demon I've been wanting. I had the two I needed to fuse for it, but then I did some other fusions and went a bit further into the game because I wasn't a high enough level. I come back and have been resummoning different demons and trying different combinations to find out how I can make that damned demon again.

I even checked the fusion chart for the game and apparently I shouldn't even be able to make it at this point in the game.

It's Gashadokuro. Giant top half of a skeleton.

>>174131828
I'm at the end of the palace now with no sp. I'm so close that I want to see if I can cheese my way through but I think I'll drive myself mad if I die again. I've made it this far and really don't want to give up. I hope there are phys charge abilities

>>174130907
>i'm dying more in this game than I did apocalypse on apocalypse

wtf are you playing p5 on? the dlc hard mode?

>>174132218
just regular hard mode. I was gonna do dlc hard but I heard that it's ridiculously bullshit.

>>174132080
stealth to the end
it works out, just keep going

>>174132508
won't that leave me underleveled? I won't be able to fight the boss solo if I'm not high enough level.

>>174132015
Fuck it. No matter what I try, I can't find the combination that I had the first time. I guess I'll just settle with a different demon that's 13 levels lower.

Hoy

>>174131202
Make him go physical.
Just fuse him with whatever makes it STRong.

>>174131737
>someone actually took the time to type this

Oh... but I guess it's ok because it was done ironically, haha, silly me!

Hoyla

Begun to play SMT: Nocturne
Im going in relatively blind and i've never played any SMT games before.
Im at the first maze thing now and using Jack Frost and the freeze matagama. What is a good physical attacking demon i could get relatively early to work with the party?

>>174134501
Nocturne has a rather small list of demons, so I'm sure whichever one you can fuse at that point is good. It's more important to give them good skills and to always have a varied party that can cover everything.

>>174132218
>hard mode
you can steamroll though a game untill one point when you have the wrong party.
try different demons man

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Would you rather have more Hallel versions of Fallen demons, or Demonica-versions of Neutral aligned demons?

>>174136124
Hallel for sure

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>>174132831
>beat episode 5
>go to training hall
>accept a challenge from mist
>so many enemies
>they keep respawning
>100 EXP

I'd be slightly upset if it wasn't for how amazing it felt to just RIP AND TEAR all those demons. I assume it's 100 because of the amount of EXP I got.

ONE MORE

>>174136640
AHA IS THIS OUR CHANCE

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>>174136738

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This is our Lucifer tonight.

>>174136867
Is it decent? It's been so long since I've seen any ecchi.

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>>174136124
What are the Hallel versions even supposed to be?
'Redeemed' Fallen? 'Original' Fallen, i.e. before they fell?
They look pretty rad, though.

>>174074831
I agree, pic related.

>>174078615
He's a character that's closer to Tom Bombadil. He performs feats that signify great power, but only uses them for the sake of 'comic relief' and does not use his might to claim any dominion (other than the terminals), while he most certainly could.

>>174136918
I'm gonna watch it right now. Looks somekind of Queen's Blade from the trailers and sexy figures.

/a/ keeps talking that Belial is the best girl.

>>174136945
Post template onegai.

>>174136945
>'Original' Fallen, i.e. before they fell?
This, I think. Mostly though they're an excuse for cool summons in a story bossfight while also reusing assets to save time. I'd like to see more versions of demons like that, if only so they can start appearing in later games as special fusions.

Which is the overall consensus on most difficult SMT game?

>>174137062
SMT1. I fucking dropped it after some weeks because that map is fucking bullshit and the dungeons look all the same.

>>174137062
SJ I guess. SMT is not that hard in general. DeSu 2 is the hardest Megaten I've played.

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>>174137039
Sure.

>>174137052
I do not like this interpretation, as I consider the animal forms of the Fallen a result of the fact that they have fallen. Otherwise, I would expect more demons with animal features in the heavenly host. The 'redeemed' interpretation does not have this problem, as it is not unreasonable for them to have retained a part of their fallen form.

Also, they aren't merely an excuse. The essence of Yosuga is that only 'beautiful'/'strong' things should live and both Archangels and Oni's were in favor of that, so it makes sense that creatures who are to exemplify their ideal have both 'angelic' and 'demonic' traits (The demonic sponsor Baal also fits, as it used to refer to a benevolent fertility god, but was later 'demonised' by the Christian church)

>>174137129
>map is fucking bullshit and the dungeons look all the same.
makes the game easy desu all that amless wandering adds to free grinding

>>174137129
SMT1 is too much even for me.
>>174137210
SJ can easily be beaten with the MC only (as long your stat growths don't backstab you), though DeSu is genuinely hard. I had to spend an hour making an Abraxas skill set in order to defeat Botis.

>>174137618
SMT I and II can also be easily beaten with humans only, demons are only good for boss fights.

>>174137716
Isn't there a glitch in II where you can recruit humans and fuse them with demons, resulting in a random, even endgame, demons?

>>174137893
I think so but I've never tried it.

>>174137893
Pretty sure it's not a glitch, you can recruit some 'human' enemies in SMT1/2 and they result in random demons when fused. I know you can recruit Gaians/Mesians in SMT1 but the results are far less game breaking.

can you even recruit the bodycoinans in smt1?

Anyone got any smirk edits?

>>174137062
MT I

What is right or wrong?

>>174139047
It depends on you and others. You have your definition, respect it, but listen and considerate others as well.

>>174139047
SMT is right, persona is wrong.

>>174139047
Only you can decide that for yourself.

>>174139047
Neutral is always right.

>>174137893
"Glitch"
But yes, breaks level limit in a Triple fusion in I. Can get Shiva or Metatron on first half if lucky. I only got them like just before entering Eden.
Doubles in II and any human fusion in I ends with a level broken demon at random, but you have to be said level.

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>>174138330

>>174139047
My opinion is right and everyone else's is wrong

>>174115503
Smt4 gets easier as you unlock more demons and skills. The beginning is hard because you lack good skills/buffs and need to find a fusion or a demon that has the skills you need so you can start passing on those skills to yourself and your future demons. Buffs are pretty good and are vital to winning as usual. Once you get over the beginning and get some macca you can engage into demon fusion fun. Endgame is a lot of fun as you can work to make your ultimate mara or alice or whatever and not have to fuse random plebs anymore to progress. Honestly the more you play the easier it gets. You gain access to so many options because your compendium starts to fill up with fusion fodder with skills and you start to figure out what buffs are good.

Minotaur is bullshit crits though. Even with evade skills. Smirk accuracy is cancer.

>>174115826
Reject one more god.

Am I missing out on much by not doing the Snow Queen quest before Persona 2?

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>>174138330

>>174140652
You're missing Yuka's constant bitching. So not much.

>>174140652
The only thing you're the missing by not playing P1 before P2 IS is Yukino's reference to her constant bitching in P1 about you going into the wrong places.

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>that Asmodeus

>Devil Survivor 2 The Animation (Complete)(English Dubbed) 720p XcripX
>69.9%for days
life is unfair

>>174142320

>DeSu 2 anime
>And dubbed at that

No.

>>174142320
>DS2 animation
God damn that was a weird time for Atlus. Index pumping out tons of shit for easy sheckles. I'm kinda glad for it, but kinda not.

>>174143964
>There will never be a DeSu 1 The Animation

>>174144412
DeSu1 is garbage.

>>174144531
Why? I prefered the atmosphere over 2 and
Overclocked fixed a lot of it's gameplay flaws.

>>174143775
>solely watching anime
You don't do this, do you?

>>174144531
DeSu 1 had a better plot but worse gameplay.

>was gonna buy 4: apoc
>new SJ game
well fuck

How the hell did people beat MT1 when it first came out? I hardly got through it even with save states and I had to look up maps in some areas.

I also find it funny that they had to enter long codes back then just to save their games

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Who is your favorite Pesona husbando?

>>174115826
More demon characters, less human ones.

Have a nice wheeeeeee!

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Who would be in your SMT Q team?

>>174146726
play both

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>>174146726
>current year
>not hacking your 3ds

>>174147529
Same way people beat Contra. Video games were supposed to be hard back then.

>>174147878
>Nakajima
>Bunny
>Yu
>Hazama

>>174147878
>SMT Q
Would it be a crossover between the mainline games or every SMT game ever? This is important.

>>174148878
>Would it be a crossover between the mainline games or every SMT game ever?
Yes.

>>174139047
Right - Japan
Wrong - Everyone else

>>174147878
Bunny, Walter, Heat
Maya, Space Marine

>>174147878
Space Marine
Law Hero
Yukiko Amagi
That drunk teacher from DDS2
YHVH

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>>174149293
>larry

>>174147878
Demi-Fiend
Atsuro
Lisa
Gale

>>174147878
>Demifiend, Gale, Doom Marine
>Junpei, Raidou

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>>174138330

>>174148649
Contra is hard because its extremely short so they need difficulty to make it long. MT1 is 50 hours long with brutal difficulty, unforgiving deaths, and they don't even bother giving you a map

>>174147878
>Serph, Hero, Abel, Piercy
>Demifiend, Sera, Raidou, Dante
>Heat, Walter, Ryuji, Jimenez
>Yu, Bunny, Nakajima, Maya
>Cain, Yamato, Goro, Dagda
>Hacker, Space Marine, Tatsuya, Tamaki
>Mirai, Aleph, Nanashi, Joker
>Yumiko, Asahi, Beth, Isabeau
>Setsuna, Hallelujah, Chaos Hero, Chiaki
>El, Giten Protag, NINE Protag, MTII Protag

>>174150556
They may be hard for different reasons, but the reason people still played them to the finish was because the expected them to be hard. Maps can be drawn, deaths can be replayed. As long as you're willing to put in enough effort, any RPG can be beat. And the reason people made the effort was simply because that was how video games worked back then.

>>174147878
Front: Demi-Fiend, Bunny
Back: Space Marine, Hinako, Nemissa (as long as she isn't gimped by having the Zen/Rei mechanics)

>>174115826
SMT Nocturne remake would be lit

>>174152016
i only want the game in higher res with fixed battle music

that's all i'm asking

>>174152069
emulation + mods

>>174151067
>because that was how video games worked back then.
Why?

The game was released in 1987, at the very start of the video game industry. People weren't good at video games yet. Why make it so hard?

You'd think games would start out easy and become harder over the years once people became used to them.

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>>174152346
Totally legit 'rite.

>>174153829
>at the start of the videogame industry
At the start of the JAPANESE videogame industry maybe.

>>174153829
Ultima 4 was released 2 years prior, let that sink in for a minute.

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>>174153840
I need more pictures of Nocturne glitches.

>>174154045
how about I sink my dick into your ass?

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Raining in mid July? What the fuck is wrong with Japan?

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What's the game on the SMT1 wikipedia article?
This is not the SNES version of SMT1.

>>174155065
GBA

>>174155065
>tfw i played the snes version before i realized the gba existed

:(

>>174152346
Are there any good mods for Nocturne?

>>174155665
Nude chiaki mods

>>174115826
Make it DEEP and put some Yukiko on it as well.

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>>174158021
Everything is better with Yukiko

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Are the Nocturne battle music lyrics purposely vague to fit with the reasons theme? Or am I just being pretentious?

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>>174158021
I wonder what Arcana is Schwartz Yukiko's Social Link.

>>174159498
Stuff you don't understand can be interpeted to be more meaningful than it is.

I think Nocturne lyrics are just rad fun.

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>>174147878
Probably Fuuka for analysis (swap for atma Seraph), Demi for damage, MC for vending plus three demons appropriate for elemental types.
>nips made a game when you can do it and fug every single demon ever
praise autism, I guess

>>174160604
>play eramegaten
>only way to romance someone is to kidnap them

Shit game.

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>>174161524
It's not like you can be 'friends' in SMT anyway

or are you a bondfag

>>174161759
I like all MegaTen games.

Let's post our favorite SMT tracks, /smtg/.
Hard mode: No battle themes

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnl-gKT4ljI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHUKrjkAC4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdT59_cov0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQJOS1BkMZQ

>>174162061
>lets post our favorite smt tracks
>proceeds to post persona
Well

>>174162061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbwljew1UbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNfafnfkT4
Best palace themes.

>>174162061
This one is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFuWf_copM8

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>>174162301
>Ignoring the other 3 songs

>>174132594
>solo
What?

>>174162061
Amazing how every game has good tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnncLWenZnw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go0JWfE9nEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na1JEcog_t4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvR-uGw_Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnHqMeGR-rE

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>>174162061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLcXXz01Tn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BQDBGNZ9Ew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95tJNXhhnTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEIPXCR5G6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQPDe1mU31s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZcHrpX3eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-9GDsbBsL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X4IkbnDF2k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQcnanaCjEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgREHOmwrxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz43OhYYbcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BcYDO3cc2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hucC98P1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHqAIpj5NJA

>>174162061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdofJiz6Pyk

>>174140652
Snow Queen Quest is better than SEBEC, so do iit.

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>>174163187

>>174144531
You're garbage.

>>174162061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztpezeayM0M

>>174144531
as long as they animate the yoohoos

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>>174147878
>Demi-Fiend
>Walter
>Tohru Adachi
>Goro
>Dagda

>>174162987
Making this list reminds me that I should finish DDS 1 and 2.
I've started 1 like 5 times and the furthest I've got was when Gale starts getting visions of his past?
The hard mode made DeSu2 and P4 hard because the battle themes in those games are much better than the other tracks.

>>174163830
>The hard mode made DeSu2 and P4 hard because the battle themes in those games are much better than the other tracks.
what?

Is it worth doing the Law and Chaos routes in IV or is it just a different ending cutscene from neutral

>>174164014
I really like Mist and the regular battle theme in desu2

>>174144531
If DeSu1 is garbage, DeSu 2 is a shit dumpster.

>>174164259
Well, there are certain demons you can get on each route and each does play out differently after the monochrome forest.

Really i'd just do it if you want to 100% the compendium, otherwise just move on to apocalypse.

>>174166335
That's what I'm figuring, I want to play apoc fairly soon so just doing neutral first might be the best option

>>174160604
is there a translation for this?

>>174165102
>>174162987
Actually I completely forgot this theme exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WiefEUbtVI
Are P4 spinoffs halal now that the focus is on P5?
If so then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eclO7NSo3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E93gPmKq7oc

>>174166494
Do Neutral first because it's the best lead-in to Apocalypse. I'd just look up the Chaos/Law endings, they're different enough to be worth at least seeing.

Is Persona Q good?

>>174167067
If you like dungeon crawling and chibi persona characters don't trigger you too much.

>>174167067
No

Worst EO game by a fucking mile and if you like Persona the characters are turned into caricatures

>>174167189
I've only played EO1 and I don't see how PQ is worse than that.

>>174167067
You firstly need to be a big fan of both Persona and Etrian Odyssey, and even then if you're actually a fan of either you probably won't like the game for being a shit EO game and reducing the Persona characters to exaggerated caricatures of themselves

>>174167423
Shit EO game = no lolis to fap to.

>>174167067
PQ was the first Megaten I played :)
It's good

>>174155401
well do you know japanese? won't make much of a difference if you don't

also PS1 is superior

>>174166678
Majority of mechanical parts, like 5% of storylines.
Works perfectly with a hooker like chiitrans.

>>174162061
i'd post them but victor entertainment

>>174162061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JG5zNaF-Ik
this is a pretty underrated level up theme

>>174168873
I'm sure that once If... is translated, we'll see a lot more appreciation of it here.

>>174162061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrx1sZYgp7E

>>174169416
yeah it's a pretty neat game, i wish i understood what's actually happening in it though

oh and i also like the sound of the PCE port of SMT1, though this particular recording is pretty noisy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEWcdx-8xL8

>>174168873
isn't that from SMT II

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I want to be the wind that flows through Dagda glorious mane.

>>174162916
Thanks for reminding me for that Tokyo midtown theme.

>>174169824
nah, the PS1 port of if... has a few brand new songs and that's one of them

>>174167067
Don't play it, I'm not even kidding I bought it at launch and forced myself through it. If you like EO then play one of those PQ is extremely poorly balanced you can easily sleepwalk through the game spamming ailments and instant death even against FOE's. If you like Persona skip it some characters e.g. Shinjiro and Aigis are more fully fleshed out and add something to their characters, the vast majority however have been reduced to single character traits. Chie never shuts up about meat, Akihiko won't shut up about protein. The original story starts with two boring as fuck original characters and the plot only really moves forward at the end of each of the labyrinths. So there's only actually five or six actual plot beats in the entire 70 hour game. And what story there is is okay at best, but to be better than that you'd have to become attached to the incredibly boring originals which probably isn't going to happen if you bought the game to play with your favorite persona wielders. Basically the only real reason to play it is if you're dying for more Persona fanservice but if you want to play for that reason the game will leave you angry that you bothered to actually play it by the end just like I am. The soundtrack is pretty good though.

>>174169824
>>174169884
It's pretty much just a remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf8FNTpUzK4

>>174169979
You didn't play on Risky did you?

>>174170123
I can't remember I'm assuming not

>>174170221
Well you should play on the hardest available difficulty for persona games, it's the one that's tuned for the veterans.
Normal is for "JRPG" players and easy is for babies who want the game complete itself.

>>174170409
Even so it wouldn't of changed the awful characterization and the absolutely terrible fourth labyrinth.

>>174170409
Yeah but for an EO game you should do the first run on normal

>>174170715
True, but PQ on risky had about the EO1 difficulty and frankly I prefer megaten fusion mechanics over the skill system in EO.
>>174170941
Why?

Anyone got that hunger tier list?

Does anyone have a plot summary of Innocent sin. I wanna go play EP but I haven't played the first since it came stateside and I want a refresher on the main plotbeats.

>>174171221
You can play IS on PSP friend

>>174171352
Yeah I did but I don't wanna replay it before playing through ninety percent of the same content again in Eternal Punishment

>>174171192
Anyone?

>>174171221
Eikichi and Lisa locked Maya and Tatsuya in the shrine and Tatsuya Sudou burned it down.
Maya rescued both with her persona.
Jun turned into joker thanks to Nyarly and the trauma of thinking that Tatsuya and pals murdered Maya.
They kick Sudou's ass and Jun rejects Nyarly and turns back to Jun.
They are too late though and Space Nazis attack and Nyarly turns the city into a spaceship.
The group face their shadows and kick Nyarly's butt. The school teacher however murders Maya and they decide to press the reset button with the condition that they don't remember each other.
Tatsuya doesn't do that and punches Philemon in the face, cue EP

>>174167067
Yeah, it's good.
Not the best thing out there, but it's a fun RPG.

>>174171727
I knegot spoiled that maya dies but it still made me a bit teary eyed

I really do what P2 with P5's engine or even SMTIV engine fuck anything please

>>174171727
The teacher murdered Maya because she was also named Maya and the prophecy that the guys with the constellation theme were trying to create said that at the end a Maya would die right. What was the purpose of Jun's group just to make people believe in the prophecy so that the later parts would come true?

>>174172173
Yeah, the constellation guys were pretty much a doomsday cult trying to destroy the world. And they succeeded.

the toronto blue jays fucking suck

>>174172075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcN7WHW-hok

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>>174172363
Thanks Man. I guess it's time to start my EP playthrough, It should be interesting I've beaten the first persona in the time since I beat Innocent Sin so hopefully I'll understand more of the callbacks.

>>174115706
>JJBA
>good

How did you guys feel about IMAGINE when it was around?

>>174115503
P4 writing is trash
P3 writing is aight but the gameplay is trash
P5 is actually good in both aspects but it is a nu-persona game and is heavy with VN and story/characters but unlike P4 and some parts of P3 its good

>>174173225
It was an MMO and MMO's are shit

>>174173225
>tfw never got to playing it

I regret never trying it out I did not expect it was going to get the axe

>>174173048
>(You)

>>174167067
It's EO with fusions, so it's automatically the best EO game.

Does EP have issues emulating on the Vita? I just got kicked out of the game after the scene with the principal in the courtyard? The Anna girl in that scene was one of King Leo's henchmen wasn't she?

>>174175184
Yeah, she was Lady Scorpio

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>>174171473
I only have this old as fuck one.

>>174176049
Do you have that 10-12 pic with Kaneko handy?
I think it had just "who are you? What do you want? yes no" on it

>>174176909
No, sorry.
I lost almost all of my pictures like 2 years ago.

>>174176909
You could just play SMT2 until you encounter an archangel and make a new one.

>>174179724
How's this?
You're in good hands.

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i'll draw more smt on this day of easter

>>174180479
This is fun and Jack Frost. Do more.

hey guys, would you all like to watch me stream smt games, I really want to go through and play them all, especially all of them on ps2 but I dont know if there's a lot of people who want to watch that

>>174182201
I don't watch streams but if I did I would. It would be fun to see what demons and fusions you end up with.

>>174182596
Thank you anon Im gonna pick up a capture card sometime soon and start it up then

I started to play SMT:Nocturne two days ago and been streaming it, im 6h in.
First time playing any SMT game ever and... well. Its weird how confused and entertained i am at same time.
twitch / Sh1tnugget
I'll be shilling and streaming later

>>174183783
you son of a bitch

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are the Megami Tensei and the first three SMT games available in english?

>>174182201
>>174183783
Funny, I was thinking of starting a Youtube channel and doing playthroughs of all the games I can. Is there some smt bug going around?

>>174184202
Yes. Read the OP.

>>174184345
I think its probably due to the hype that atlus gave us when they said they were going to announce a bunch of games this year
and playing persona 5 reminded me how much I love these goddamn games

>>174184202
There's fan translations for SMT1, SMT2 and Kyuaku Megami Tensei (MT1 & 2) on SNES.

Atlus published Nocturne in NA. It was published in Europe by Ghostlight with the name Shin Megami Tensei: Lucifer's Call featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry -series.

>>174184684
Well the reason I wanted this series to be the first main focus of my (probably soon to be made, Idk yet) channel is due to the lack of folks making videos about the early games in the series. Everyone and they're mother would be doing lets plays of P5 if Atlus didn't threaten to send ninjas after those that do.

In other words, I though going left while everyone is going right would be a good idea. My first idea was focusing on the Drakengard games, but I was bit too late and Nier: A grabbed way more attention than I think anyone could have anticipated, so I've been seeing more and more people make Drakengard videos lately.

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>>174171192

>>174185214
I feel this, that's kind of my reason i want to start streaming them because i'd like to bring more attention to series that arent persona

>>174185760
I used to stream megaten games, I got like 1-10 watchers while playing SJ or Nocturne and like 150 when playing P4 without any commentary.

Im thinking of going back to smt3 after I finish digital or play some more smt3, any tips anons? Yeah yeah, debuffs, fuse like a madman, that's granted, but practical shit, like where do I properly grind macca or experience, who should I bother recruiting, is grinding incense actually worth doing, stuff like that.

>>174185760
There used to be a guy who shilled for some guy streaming an entire years worth of Megaten.

>>174186039
oh wow, that's rather disappointing, i dont mind playing through p4 again but id rather not do it again for a good long while
>>174186267
christ, that's wild

>>174186390
I'd probably throw it on in the background while playing grand strategy or something for what it's worth.

>>174187208
you know, I'll take that advice
it would be kind of interesting if the streamers of /smtg/ all banded together to make a stream conglomerate or something like that

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I don't think this is Jun guys.

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>haven't lurked since SMT4
>actually lived to see Persona 5, excited about new demon models
>normalfags and /pg/ only care about arguing over characters and re-release speculation
>can't bring myself to care like before
>realize it's just a repeat of early P4 shitposting
>realize I'll never see a repeat of the magic of early SMT threads
>begin to doubt if they were even good and if I'm just getting old
>missed Apoc release

I feel empty inside and long for days gone by.

>>174189590
dont worry anon, I'm sure that when smt5 comes out itll all be renewed

I'm playing Soul Hacker for the first time and i'm having a blast, and i'd like to know how to start Mary's sidequests

>>174189590
Been lurking really infrequently (usually twice a year) since 2010. The only change I see is threads multiplying in numbers as the series has become more popular due to Persona and SMT4.

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>>174189590
I think Strange Journey was my favorite release with /smtg/.

The Persona shitposting before the split got pretty bad though.

>>174190532
Not gonna lie, I love posts like those over on /v/. I remember the FFXV "which girls butts smell the best" post that had me rolling.

>>174190861
I don't mind that shit on /v/ but posting that in a general either means that they're autistic enough to actually be thinking about the tightness of the girls vaginas in which case they should kill themselves. Or they typed all that shit up "Ironically" in which they should also kill themselves.

>>174191501
>no fun allowed
lawfag please go

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>>174189590
New Kaneko models make my dick rock hard.

>>174191841
The HD game is gonna be great.

>>174190861
it's good fun, but those threads were really starved, i don't blame anyone for taking a hiatus after a release simmers down

i'm with that guy, on /v/ anything goes

Monkey a shit

>>174187684
PERSONA PERSONA
CALL OUT YOUR PERSONA!!!

>What... is this feeling?
EP voice acting was something special.

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is it going to be localized before Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2?

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Should I go for Raging Elemental spells+ Concentrate or Pierce Spells+Smile Charge on Inanna in IV:A?

>>174192759
It's like they got the cheapest mark hamil they could find.

Katsuya trying to arrest the demons is amazing though.

>>174192867
All the severe elemental spells (Trisagion), concentrate, debilitate and imposing stance.

>>174193090
Why Imposing stance over mind null or Enduring soul?

Tips for fighting YHVH in Apocalypse? Burned through most of my SP during the first phase.

>>174193154
Removing press turns has saved my ass so many times in the end game.

>>174193154
Because it severely cripples the opponent's ability to do anything meaningful.

So /smtg/, which do you prefer more? Fusing a bunch of demons with good abilities that are in constant rotating usage, or fusing 3 dedicated demons and only using them?

>>174194040
The more the party fluctuates the merrier.

>>174194040
The ones that look cool

>>174194040
The more fusing the better. It's why I prefer SJ and IV to the ps2 games. The demon selection is so much broader. It always disappoints me when you get to the end game and there's only a few good demons left to fuse.

>>174194040
The ones that look cute

>>174194487
This too Kikuri-hime and Ame-no-Uzume always have a spot since they're such cuties.

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>>174194469
Hi

>>174194670
Don't fucking remind me

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>>174194790
What's that? You wanted a good fusion for your demons? Here you go!

>tfw Eternal Punishment PSP will never get translated

>>174194670
>Thought Mad Gasser was a chill Holocaust dude.
I was disappointed when I found out about the myth.

>>174195257
It's not that bad on ps1.

is there any way to make no$gba larger?

>>174195301
I wanna know how he got in and no other serial killers except jack the ripper. Like I want to see the mad axeman of new orleans and shit. Imagine an entire race of depraved killers to do your bidding.

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Any of you guys know where I can find some SMT II saves? After trying all of the different patches, including the fix, and on multiple emulators, it still crashes whenever I try to revive Masakado. It seems like my only choice is to start a save that's after that.

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>>174195561
As long as they don't do movie-killers like Jason, Scream, etc, in the same race

>>174195342
The voice acting is though.

>>174195471
no$zoomer

>>174184345
Maybe we should all play more SMT® games.

You should also grab a copy of Persona® 5 "Take Your Heart Edition", if you haven't already. And look forward to its downloadable content.

>>174195791
thanks bud
>>174195810
go back to /v/

What do these magazines do in P2?

>>174195756
Not in the same race but I'd totally be down for a separate horror race, especially in a persona game, that had like frankenstein's monster, dracula, the mummy and the creature of the black lagoon.

>>174194040
I don't think the later is even possible without compendium jewery.
Whenever I let a demon stall waiting until I can get a worthwhile fusion for it, it falls behind, and the other demons in my fusion fodder climb up to become part of my main party.

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>>174195257
The fan translation team is still working on it.
Stay safe and healthy, and just wait a few more years.

So Persona 5 is easily the worst meguro soundtrack right?

i don't understand why people here love nocturne so much

it's easily the worst of the mainline series

>dude let's make optional bosses a requirement lmao

>>174196387
Persona 2 is.

>>174196387
SJ imo The shitty ds speakers don't help it one bit.

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>>174196387

>>174196469
It's the first mainline game most western fans played. It's flaws don't really show themselves if you have nothing to compare it to.

>>174196523
Is Persona 2 even Meguro? (It's way better than Persona 5's anyway)
>>174196558
At least Strange Journey's songs fit the situation they're used in. Persona 5 is all over the place (what the fuck is that music in Kamoshida's palace supposed to be)

>>174196558
Yeah.
Masochists will chime in and try to defend it, but the OST is simply poor quality and it only starts to stick with you after you listen to it for 50 hours.

Should i listen to dagda

I still haven't listened to the P5 soundtrack. Is it really that bad?

>>174196917
yeah, everything he says makes sense desu

>>174196965
No
it's great

>>174196917
Don't listen for persona route. Listen for superior SMT route.

>>174196965
It's good

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>>174196387
I don't like this opinion.

>>174196469
It's babby's first mainline. People who started with Persona and want to seem cool gravitate towards it because it's a (somewhat) modern home console release. It's always funny when people use it as their example of a REAL shin megami tensei when it's the most divergent mainline game by far.

>>174197089
I'll give it credit for having a very cool desolate atmosphere that only DDS even comes close to capturing, but the total lack of cool cyberpunk is lame.

>>174196469
we only got the good nocturne

>>174197080
At least the costume DLC changes to the BGM so I get to listen to If...'s sick battle theme instead of the shitty Persona 5 one

>>174196965
Fuck no. It doesn't have as many memorable tracks as 3 and 4, but it's still really good.

>>174195342
can you use an eboot to play the patced ps1 on the psp?

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>>174197789
No idea. I'd assume so but the game crashed on my vita so I'm playing it on my PC.

>>174197789
can you suck my ass

>>174196469
Probably because it's still the best mainline game.

>>174196965
It's not bad but Is all over the place like P1P.

>>174197943
give me 300 macca

>>174198106
no deal, you gotta sweeten the pot

>>174198167
>the demon beacons you to come closer

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>>174195257
>tfw the group that was translating it dropped it for a fucking shitty Madoka game

>>174176049
Last time I was here this was the newest one


>>174185407
When did we update it into this?

>>174198547
After Soul Hackers came out.

>>174198764
But soul hackers was already out by the time we made >>174176049
As it was updated for SMT IV

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>>174115826
Remake / reboot of SMT1

Get back to the roots. More about evil corporations in modern days.

More about someone/something opening a gate. Make it the first half in modern Tokyo and the later half in either a chaos world or law world where you can either be Chaotic/Law in Chaotic world or Chaotic/Law in Law world.

4 different endings.

Make it for modern consoles / PC

Use all the demon assets from Persona 5

>>174196469
It has a cool atmosphere and a strong aesthetic. Things like the low amount of available demons don't stand out as issues when the presentation leaves you with stronger memories of the whole experience.

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>fucking Nitendo Direct for Switch games
>no new info about the SMT HD project

>>174115826
Stop trying to fix fusion by "giving you more options"
The lack of options makes it interesting, not transferring the best skills to a bigger hp/manapool.

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>playing Overclocked new game+
>game crashes on the cutscene after beating Beldr
Were all these random crashes present in the original game, or were they introduced by the localization somehow?

>>174199387
E3 bby

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I want to impregnate a demon!

>>174199387
No news about SMT DSJ either.