What is the best SMT game (including Persona) and why is it unanimously

I haven't gotten around to Noturne yet but my personal favorite is Strange Journey.

Nocturne > SJ > 4 >>>> 4A > 2 > 1

>>374221307
>4>4A

Um, Persona 5 came out, you know

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>Nocturne
>Best SMT game

devil survivor 2

>>374222290
its a megami game but not a shin megami tensei game

>>374222290
it's still not the best.

>>374222663
Read more carefully
>>374220557

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>>374222735
That's where you're wrong, friendo

>>374222862
No that's where I'm right.

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>>374222908
Expect for the part where you're wrong

>>374220557
>>374222472
DDS has better dungeon design and music but nocturne has better everything else

>>374222968
Except I'm right, so therefore, I cannot be wrong.

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>>374223132
Well, can't argue with that.

>>374221307

I love how 4A gets so much shit because of the bonds path. It's not like the chaos edgelords couldn't side with lucifer anymore or anything.

>>374220557
They all have their pros and cons, my favorites are Megami Tensei II and Nocturne. Best persona is the PSP version of the first one but not many would agree with that.

>>374223459

Persona 2 was lit though

>>374221307
So I've only played Persona, and I tried playing SMT4 and really didnt like it. The characters and plot were really uninteresting. Is 4 just worse than the others, or is SMT just not for me?

>playing nocturne
>get to Matador
>get fucking rekt
>oh its a scripted loss
>game over, main menu

Havent played since

There's no way it's Nocturne. The characters and plot are shit, the pacing isn't good, negotiation is the worst of the series (both in RNG and overall entertaining options), lack of meaningful treasure or reward for exploring most of the time (mainly because no equipment), etc.

>>374222472 This just pulls pretty much everything off better.

Though personally I like Soul Hackers most because it's way more fast paced. It's not a 100 hour slog, they keep it to 30 or so instead. Plus everything about it is solid to great.

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>>374223524
P1 has better dungeons and combat by a large measure, so I like it more. P2 will always have a place in my heart though.

I've only played Persona 3, 4, and 5 before. Which mainline game should I start with?

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>>374221426
This

>>374223584
Use debuffs dude.
>>374223625
I'm currently playing Soul Hackers right now.

>>374223408
Meanwhile the ending everyone's gonna choose in Nocturne is personally sucking Lucifer off with no law or neutral alternative.

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>>374220557
SMT IV ist my favorite SMT I just cant decide.

>>374223704
SMT on SNES.

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>>374220557

What is the best Character from any SMT game (including Persona) and why is it RAIDOU KUZUNOHA?

>>374223804
This is horrible advice

>>374223797
Which Chaos demon is that?

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>>374223785
Lucifer is the most compelling character in the franchise

>>374223953
I want to say it's Ashera, but I'm not sure.

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>>374223704
>Mainline
Nocturne or IV

>>374223770
Once you beat it, be sure to do the Post-Game Dungeons and EX Dungeons. Probably the best post-game to any Megaten game around, and it doesn't even require a full second playthrough to get, just dozens of extra dungeons and unique boss fights.

>>374223704
Either Nocturne or 4. Or just don't go mainline first and try Digital Devil Saga for PS2, since that really bridges the gap between Persona and mainline SMT well (big focus on characters like Persona, but themes and atmosphere more like SMT).

>>374220557
Best mainline: SMT II
Best persona: Persona 1
Best spinoff: Majin Tensei (translation never ever)

I'll never get nocturne kiddies, the only good game with the press turn system is Apocolypse, in Nocturne itself it just makes the game a moronic slog.

>>374221426
>piss>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4=4A

>>374223770
I grinded 5 levels for Matador and didnt save. A fucking demon killed demifiend with hamaon... game over.

I quit apocalypse too cause i played for 4 hours without saving and at the place wher those two divine powers (Ganesha and someone else) I accepted their offer and got game over.

>>374223990
Its Ashere


>Ashere and Mestema not in P5

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>374224002
>no SMT IV:A
>no P5

Shit need to get updated asap

>>374224090
Are you just retarded or what? Serious question.

>>374223923
>easiest game besides IV
>literally the beginning (unless you count the Famicom Megami Tenseis, which are great games but bad for newfags)
>introduces the SMT feel better than nocturne, which is pretty nonstandard
>very all-around solid as a game, isn't a clusterfuck like IV
There's no reason not to play it first.

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>>374223990
>>374223797

That chaos demon reminds me of pic related

>>374220557
Nah, it's Devil Survivor. Fuck, it even has a halfway decent Law route.

>>374224090
I save before every event, even if it's minor.

>>374223986
YHVH and Law in general is way more compelling, mainly because they actually go about reaching their goals in different ways and have an endgame to reach. Archangels will do one plan, Gabriel will have a different idea than the rest, YHVH has an entirely different one, Satan has a different one, and that's all just in one game with different flavors of Law.

For all the talk of freedom, chaos has a strange tendency to organize directly under Lucifer with absolutely no in-fighting, no real methods to accomplish shit, and only end up with randomly murdering humans and setting shit on fire.

>>374223625
>negotiation is the worst of the series
negotiation skills

>lack of meaningful treasure or reward for exploring most of the time (mainly because no equipment)
rare items that you'll need to make your life way easier/save yourself from a random battle gone bad isn't worth it? or failing that, to sell so you can get more magatama?

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>>374223816
He's my favorite character besides Heat, and Nemissa.

>>374224285
DeSu

Maybe it's because i'm not so much into SRPGs, but that game is fucking terrible. Characters too. It's the only MT game I actually dropped thus far, and i've even went on to play shit like Last Bible.

>>374224220
They said they would give me power. I didnt expect a game over from a dialogue box.

>>374224260

Does P5 have any megamilk demons? Ann's doesn't really count.

>>374223536
>Is 4 just worse than the others

With the exception of music, it is.

Despite the great setting, SMT IV loses the atmosphere that makes the series special.

Nocturne has a simple plot but really fufills the setting, provides character to all the demons, and has consistantly solid combat the whole way through.

>>374224454
>they would give me power.
You deserve the game over.

>>374220557
You just reminded me that i need to get unstuck on SMT2
I need one more pillar and i can get to the abyss

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>>374224540
Cybele? Not too big but meh

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If they want to add in a new character so bad in SJ Deep why couldn't they add Doomguy instead?

>>374224453
>DeSu is terrible
Jesus christ anon, where did the game touch you? Was it Wendigo? Your character complaint is valid enough, but the gameplay is the tightest I've played on the 3DS.

>>374224560
What? Nocturne's plot does fuck-all to fulfill the setting, especially if you're acting like SMTIV "loses the atmosphere that makes the series special"

That just flat out sounds like you only started with Nocturne and think that's what the series is. It's not.

Kaneko's even said in interviews before that the basis of the series is humans finding their place in a world already ruled by gods and demons, and Nocturne practically has no humans. I don't get where you're getting that it provides character to the demons either.

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Question came to my mind today & so I ask...
I SMT or Persona had a crossover with another franchise, which franchise would you like to see?

I picked Skullgirls

Also, will we see our beloved uncle Dante ever again?

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>>374220557
That's not SMT IV: Apocalypse Now

>This triggers the Lawfags

>>374224907
No but Donte will

>>374224821
Dropped the game at Baldur. Like I said, it's probably because SRPGs do nothing for me. I find them extrememly tedious to play. I'd rather just have an actual RPG than a bunch of tile maps.

>>37422055
>Implying Persona games are SMT

>>374224907
Yakuza.

Imagine Persona with the details of the Yakuza series for all those famous Tokyo spots, and actual game mechanics instead of just "select go to work/play game/etc, advance one text box, fade to black, and you're done with it"

Yakuza Ishin's weapon/gunsmithing, fighting styles, and setting just scream Raidou too.

>>374224907
If* I fucked up. I need sleep soon.

>>374224821
Having actual grinding in an SRPG ruins the game, and DeSu is full of it. Majin Tensei did the SRPG aspect better, having demons as your army makes the game a lot more fun than the pseudo RPG aspects of DeSu

>>374224948
>That's not SMT IV: Apocalypse Now
Why would it be?

>>374224907
Fire emblem would be dope

It still fucking hurts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdwK7XV9Mvs&t=106s

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>>374225203

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>>374220557
because pixie

>>374225149
Majin tensei sounds so fucking cool. P2EP is almsot done and might get a release this year how much longer for majin tensie ?

>>374225192
The gameplay is great but its torn between being Persona 4 and SMT IV and does both horribly. P5 is a better SMT game then SMTIV:A

>>374224350
>mainly because they actually go about reaching their goals in different ways

Not really.

It goes

YHVH's plan - fuck you, you're going to listen to me eventually
Archangel's plan - we're going to make you listen to us or you're fucking dead
Mastema's plan (at least in IV/IVA) - they'll listen eventually, just chill the fuck out, they can't listen if they're dead

Mastema is unironically the most chill angel of the top brass because he believes in humanity's will to choose. Even if they should go against YHVH he believes that that's just another way of coming to understand Him and that one day they might change their minds.

>>374220557
It's Apocalypse bitch fight me

>>374224903
Maybe that's why Nocturne is the most popular mainline.

I don't know of any of the human characters that are better characterized than the Demons in the Nocturne.

The environments they reside in speak about them, the shops, the NPC demons, all are more interesting that practically all the characters in the SMT IV, hell they're more interesting that the humans in Nocturne itself.

Apocalypse is better than IV, but that's once again because of the demon characters, rather the bland human cast.

>>374225253
>A game about demons and life in a demon infested world in which you kill your friends becuase they wanted to go to BK and not mcdonalds
>A game in which your friends die and thats and and war and sometimes monsters
Fuse them and you get
Fucking idols why. Did it bomb?

>>374225053
I seriously want to call you out on your shit taste, but if you just flat out hate SRPGs then there's really nothing to say.
>>374225149
I don't recall DeSu being terribly full of grinding, maybe just for skill unlocks and your first go at Day 7, but otherwise it's pretty doable if you're smart with fusion, just like mainline. Then again it's been years since I've played it, so I might have smoothed out the rough patches in my mind.

>>374225253
nintendo ruins everything it touches

>>374220557
>What is the best SMT game (including Persona)
>SMT game
>Persona
What he mean by this?

>>374225415
>I seriously want to call you out on your shit taste
Shit taste cause I don't like an incredibly slow-ass genre

Shit's boring my dude. I did manage to beat the GBA Fire Emblems though. Can't say they're my GOATs or anything though.

>>374225253
>>374225203
https://youtu.be/BNQ_I_QiJkU?list=FLDwg-DP126ZzZsHdRBNODJQ

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Persona series + smt 4 and 4a = completed

should i start with strange journey or nocturne?

>>374225415
DeSu is doable w/o grinding and its a great spinoff
DeSu 2 writting ist as good and is more eva/ living in a nice shelter then surviving like the first which I prefered more. having slinks didt feel to out of place

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>>374223584
>Being so bad at a game that you think a challenging boss is a scripted loss
Oh am i laffing. Use buffs retard, fuse Uzume, etc.

I still need to beat SJ but Mem Aleph is complete bullshit.

>>374225539
>Shit taste cause I don't like an incredibly slow-ass genre
Yet you're fine with regular turn based RPGs?

>>374225287
Shit, #FE is a better SMT game than 4A.

>>374225790
MA
A

>>374220557
Best atmosphere, story, and music.

I remember going into Persona 3 expecting Nocturne quality. I was severely let down. It's too bad the series devolved to pander to a wider audience. But, that's business.

>>374225792
I can probably count the turn-based RPGs that I actually like, that aren't SMT on a hand.

>>374220557
Nocturne starts of really shitty until you complete Yoyogi Park 1. It's the only thing that kept me from playing the game to completion for many years. Thank goodness my friend had a save just before matador and I played it from there.

>>374225617
If you love dungeons SJ will spoil you so much that you should go with Nocturne first.

>>374220557
I wish they make a megaten game with combat from SMT4A and graphics and gameplay from Persona 5.

SMT4A has the best combat system. Persona 3-5 is more fun to play with the social aspect. Persona 5 looks beautiful compare to any SMT game.

>>374225305
I mean, if you're boiling it down to that, that's still more than Lucifer's grand scheme to sit on his ass while demons kill humans and set fire to cars for all eternity.

SMT4 Law alone has a crazy amount going on. You get to see in Infernal Tokyo what happens if the angels do absolutely nothing, the world becomes hell on earth so it can justify anything they do to avoid that. That's pretty interesting.

Then Mastema (Law) acts against the Archangels (Law) so hard that he kidnaps and binds them. In-fighting just to achieve what they think YHVH wants by different means, interesting.

Gabriel's left alone and allows humans in Mikado to proceed under Akira's guidance unlike how the other Archangels would've wanted to simply purge him and any he passed demon knowledge onto. You see it end up with a repressive society with a caste system unlike anything they wanted, all because they let a single guy who had 100% pure intentions in that had demon knowledge. Shows Gabby fucked up, and reinforces needing a clean slate for humanity.

>>374225881
What where they thinking man? "This epic ist sweet" my fucking ass. Could have been cool man. I prefer

>>374226029
Hopefully that is what SMT x Switch is. Either SMT mainline or an equal spin off.

>>374220557
I don't know, but I do know this: PERSONA 5 FAGS HAVE BEEN UNEQUIVOCALLY BTFO'D

https://twitter.com/patchworkearth/status/853088974197452801

>>374226283
literally who is this shitter

>>374226331
Somebody who destroyed Persona 5 in less than 1000 characters

>>374226351
no, really, who

>>374226381
The guy who annihilated Persona 5 in less than ten tweets

>>374226426
this is just you isn't it

>>374226283
That's literally just autism.

>>374226451
yes, my mom didn't hug me enough

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>>374226283

>PERSONA 5 ALL ABOUT USING AND MANIPULATING OTHERS
>just described the Persona series to a T

>>374226519
whats her full name?

>>374226451
In truth it's just some guy. Some guy who ended Persona 5's credibility as a good game in the span of 30 minutes

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>>374226283
>He's a p3kiddie
I bet he liked Nocturne too

>>374226451
yea

please follow me ill follow back

>>374226283
>PERSONA 5 FAGS HAVE BEEN UNEQUIVOCALLY BTFO'D
Where exactly?
This is just some autistic screeching with no merit

>>374226573
Michele Taikwanda Peterson

>>374226558
>Guy is bithcing about the fusion sytem used in every SMT game
>Personafags btfo lelele

>>374226519
>>374226576
>>374226590
i'll follow if you suck my dick

>>374226618
Thanks sending the calling card now

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>>374225373
bad RNG

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>>374226662

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>>374226283
OP, you tweeted this for (you's)?
OK here's your (YOU)

That fucking elephant in the space palace just killed me with some lucky crits before I could save

>>374222663
wut?

>>374220557
I love Nocturne but I think I love Strange Journey just a little bit more. All the mainline games are god tier though.

Also I'm replaying Nocturne on an emulator because my PS2 copy is broken and I'm experiencing a very weird graphical glitch where nearly everything is transparent and I'm not quite sure how to fix it without making the game look like a blurry 240p mess.

SMT is edgey, I prefer P4 and 5

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Where you at so far, fags?

>>374226909
>SMT is edgey, I prefer P4 and 5
How can you like something so lame. I think out of modern smt P5 is amazingly crafted but the setting is lame. Getting conditional superpowers that basically is just inception isn't as good as demon summoning.

>>374226993
>Traumatized and still haven't beaten the PS2 titles

I'm either doing it wrong, or saving the best for last

>>374226802
wait until you encounter the elephant in the next dungeon. Even with all the best gear I can't kill him with one all out attack, so I just beg money from him instead. No matter, he sometimes gives me 20k yen, so it's cool.

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>>374224986
I disapprove of this joke, anon. That abomination never happened.

>>374226993
>tfw was at 18 (now with p5)
>got updated

FUCK am lost in KMT1
guess Ill finish reveltions demon slayer for the GBC played like 21 so far

>>374222472
>DDS2
>Not 1
You have even shittier taste than Nocturne fags.

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i started with persona and always thought about how the series would turn out if they gave the personas an actual story.

which smt game do you think best uses the demons in a plot like setting?

>>374227342
>DDS1
>not an incredibly boring and lame game for the first 75% of the game

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>>374223797
gib template

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>>374227464

>>374227397
lol

>>374227394
DeSu Overclocked

>>374227505
Thanks! Now give me a Bead

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Don't have a PS Vita & sorta just learned about Caligula & heard that the P1-2EP writer was involved.
Should I get an emulator & emulate it or...? Kinda peaked my interest when I heard that..

>>374220557
Imho from what I've played:
SJ>4=Nocturne>RK2>2>P5>RK>4A>P3>1>P2IS>P4>SH
But that's just my personal preference.

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>>374226909

>>374226909
Embrace it
Let your inner chuuni drown in euphoria

>>374227342
I like DDS1 but 2 is better, I feel like it ties up all the loose ends. DDS1 just felt boring, the only thing I liked about it was how the characters went from team mates that couldn't show a bit of emotion, to comrades who treated each other like family..

Is Nocturne the 3S of SMT?

>>374227570
>PS Vita emulator

Lol nah. You're going to have to resort to a VitaTV at least famalan. Thanks for the heads up on that game though, looks interesting.

>>374227818
What 3S?

Has anyone played DemiKids?

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>>374227818

Are you asking if it's the third in the SMT series? Then yes

What is 3S?

>>374227892
Yeah, played Light. Only because I knew if I played Dark first, i'd probably never go back to it.

>>374227079
It honestly isn't as fun as demon summoning either. I love the idea that your party is you and whatever demons you manage to sweet talk or fuse rather than having a preset cast of characters.

>>374228015
Is it kiddie shit or is it still a decent game?

>>374228074
I especially like how from time to time your demons will negotiate for you.

>>374227836
Oh yea, Vita doesn't have good emulator, as far I know.

Gonna have shell out the money then. & even then, Atlus made the localized version Digital Only. Ugh. Oh well.

No good playthroughs online either.

>>374220557
Jack bros >>>> Demikids >>>> DAN > everything else

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>>374228106
Definitely kiddie shit. It's playable, but Light was really really easy. Seeing the weird chibi demon designs is kind of interesting I guess. Save it for when you're running low on SMT if anything.

>>374226993
>casual faggot
I try but they're long games and I only recently got into them

Persona 5 > Devil Survivor > Persona 4 > Persona 2 IS > Persona 2 EP > SJ > Persona 3 > Desu 2 > SMT 4

These are the only ones I've played.
Have DDS and Raidou vs Soulless army but havent gotten around to em yet.

I would rank P2 the highest if the gameplay didn't feel so fucking awful.

>>374228308
Man Dagda got /fit/ for apocalypse.

>>374228370
>P4 above anything

How and why kys

>>374228370
>SMT 4 last
I know that Tokyo was awful to traverse but it's not THAT bad

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>>374227570
Nice GUMP

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>>374226283
we siding with tumblr now?

>>374226283
He's not entirely wrong, the entire game is super railroady and forcing the first fusion was dumb. I expected to leave after the fusion tutorial with both my personas intact and that it was just a demonstration but it wasn't.

>>374228370
I was gonna sperg out, but then I read:
>"These are the only ones I've played".
I recommend starting on DDS or Raidou, they're pretty good games.

>>374228619

One of the biggest reasons SMT 4 annoyed me, honestly

>>374228370
Why do people hate IV so much? It's nowhere near to being that bad.

>>374228160
I swear Nocturne's recruitment system was balanced around it. Talking to demons myself has maybe a 10% chance of working. But having a demon Nag mid-recruitment attempt, or opening with Seduce etc bumps it up.

>>374228712
Its nowhere near being bad at all I dont get it. I get SMTIV:A becuase its SMTIV:Persona but I dont get IV

>>374228646
>empowerment of a male blablablabla
Stopped reading there

>>374228370
>SJ that low
You wound me, anon.

>>374228646

>male empowerment
>exploitative
>gross
>gamer narrative

lel

>>374228712
The difficulty curve is pretty fucked, but that's only the real issue I had with it personally. I got lost on the world map maybe, three or four times max.

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>>374228774
>I get SMTIV:A becuase its SMTIV:Persona
How about you fuck off kid? Even "muh friends" aside, doesn't stop it from having the best gameplay and fusion system in the series thus far.

>>374228739
Makes sense thematically, if I were a demon I'd trust another demon over some clown with tribal tattoos and pants with questionable length.

>>374228435
HATE TO BREAK IT TO YA KID
BUT YOU'RE A MANLET

>>374228873
I meant thematically. its game play is great but theme wise it was all over the place. And I can see why it would turn alot of people off.

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>>374228952
>theme wise it was all over the place
Only if you don't recognize Dagda as the one true lord and savior.

I enjoy SMT and Persona games.

>>374229217
no you dont

>>374229217
I enjoy SMT and Persona 2 and 5 only desu

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*blocks your path*

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>>374229358
*blocks your other path*

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I challenge you to a duel

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>>374228873
I want to Drink Asahi

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>>374229547
Better get to scooping her off the floor then.

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*stands in the last remaining direction*

>>374224449
My man of supreme taste. Shame Heat's fight dialogues in DDS2 were still in JP, I'd have loved to hear if it was different from YOUR ASS IS MINE

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>>374229547

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Why does the bonds ending trigger people so hard?

Wasn't this series always about not giving up on humanity? Does making a few friends along the way bother people that much?

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What's the best way to play Persona Q/SMT4/Strange Journey/etc without a DS?

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>>374229358
yes

>>374229816
Yes but some of my friends should have been law fags and other chaos and I should be forced to kill them.

NOT! Muh bonds and it doest help that my friends are so underdeveloped minus gaston and feel more at home in P4 then SMTIV

>>374229816
>neutralfags

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>be persona 4 only player
>new SMT apocalypse is coming out
>maybe ill try it out if its like Persona
>start game
>horse demon surrounds my friends
>straight up murders them and me

>>374229816
>Wasn't this series always about not giving up on humanity?
No? Where did you get that idea? Your own personal head-canon? Nocturne literally starts with giving up your humanity.

Nocturne was good because of it's atmosphere. I'm a big fan of games with atmosphere. Other games try to put in a rock song or a generic orchestra theme but Nocturne captures the atmosphere with a simple sounding dark ambient theme like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsNEybRv-H4&list=PLDABB8FBE123392F0&index=5

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MARIN FUCKING KARIN

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>>374229816
>Does making a few friends along the way bother people that much?
It does when said 'friends' are a bunch of retarded, upbeat teenagers that only really contribute once every 10 turns. Navarre's cool though.

>>374230078
And thats the lightest in the SMT mainline

>>374230145
Kino as fuck

>>374220557
the persona games are trash I still dont see the appeal of them, they're cringy

>>374225253
This breaks my fucking heart

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what was her problem?

>>374222472

Fuck. I keep forgetting about these games. I really need to play them. Only played SMT I-IV Final. Wanted to play Strange Journey and if soonish, but since Deep Strange Journey will be out in a matter of months, I think I'll just wait for it. Actually, the list goes on, there's too many Megami Tensei games to play.

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I've only played Persona games and thought I'd start SMT with Nocturne
>>374223584
>get to the supposedly insanely strong Matador
>get destroyed once
>fuse Nekomata to seal his mazan
>nearly beat him
>grind two levels
>third try
Overall I've been having a good time. Daisajou was nothing because I used Dis to seal his mahamoan with her tetraja.
Just got to the part where I rescue Isamu and he responds by being a little bitch.

>>374223459

I'd mostly agree, but I'd have to side with the Japanese PSX version just because of the music. It was the first Persona I played (14 months ago), and I really liked Persona 1, it just struck all the right chords for me.

Guys shut up for a second.

Pascal the Dog is here.

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Will Soul Hackers ever return? I love its atmosphere

>>374230674

I expected to get wrecked by Matador, but I managed to beat him in one try. Media and debuffs really helped out.

>Daisajou

He makes such a great ally. I felt invincible once I got him (and I basically was).

>>374230851
Devil Summoner is too good for nu-Atlus

>>374225730
matador kicked my ass a few times before i got him even with the right party and buffs he can be a bitch
same with all the fiends
well i beat nocturne when i was 13 so id probably have no trouble now

I've never played any of these games, which one should I get?

Persona 5 for PS4
Persona 4 Gold for Vita
SMT Apocalypse for DS3

Or something else?

>>374231069
Persona 4 will probably the easiest

>>374229358
Anthony is right the games need more demon waifu pandering.

>>374229417
This is the best day ever.

Pascal the dog is here.

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>>374231538
This.

>>374231932
>cordially invited to HEE-HO my ass

>>374231069

Depends. Do you want a lighthearted (despite the whole murder mystery thing) high school/social sim + dungeon crawling through randomly generated dungeons? Go for P4G.

Do you want a darker version of that with proper dungeons that are mostly good that feels pretty SMTish (not that you'd know how that feels yet) later on? Persona 5.

Do you just want to play around a ruined Tokyo, fight, talk to, fuse demons and kill your friends? SMT IV A.

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>>374231932

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>>374232027

>>374229704
>translate everyone but one characters battle dialogue

seriously?

>>374232090
They probably didn't know he was even in the game, hence why they didn't record lines for him. Or they forget to copy old lines over, or some shit.

Is SMTIV really that bad ? And why ?

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If Shin Megami Tensei is truly the edgy game series it tries to be then whats the Jesus Christ Demon/Fiend/Persona?

>>374222290
>Waifu faggotry
It's not bad compared with western shit, but even Raidou games are better in the SMT universe.

>>374232280
You play as not jesus in SMT2

The dude at the save point told me to go find Futomimi but I can't find him for the life of me.

>>374232174
smirking

>>374232296
Raidou literally caused the Persona universe to exist .

>>374232060

I want to play preferably on a handheld since I like to play games in bed and on the road. I don't mind grinding and I like collecting pokemons and fusing them into better pokemons. I'm not that into playing dating sims.

>>374232586

>I don't mind grinding and I like collecting pokemons and fusing them into better pokemons. I'm not that into playing dating sims

Apocalypse.

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>>374232174
>First quarter of the game is a patience filter >Demon negotiations are a pain in the ass (1/3 chance on any choice taken to just instantly aggro the demon)
>Smirk is busted
>It's a bit hard to navigate without objective markers, even moreso when you come back after not playing it for awhile and forgot where you need to go
>Fiends are a massive pain in the ass to get and ultimately aren't worth the effort
Loved it nonetheless.

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how's Kyūyaku Megami Tensei? is it fully translated?

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>>374232280
If Jesus was actually implemented as a character would he be all in for Law like his dad or would he be more neutral I wonder.

I want to keep giving smtiv a go but tokyo is such fucking garbage

>>374222290
This, unironically.

>>374232827
>inb4 chaos since the old testament isn't used much in Christian teachings

>>374223408
Even without the bonds path, 4A has huge storytelling issues. It's more like a Persona but paced and designed like a SMT. Still it's one of the best SMT gameplay wise imo.

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>mysterious remake girl

>>374232679

Okay it's actually on sale so I guess I'll pick it up this afternoon

>>374221426
I like persona for being easier with smt elements. Still havent beaten 4 on 3ds even tgough i like it a lot. its hard qs fuck

>>374232827
neutral-light
most of his teachings boiled down to 'stop trying to fuck each other over, stop worrying about the future, just enjoy life, play nice and have fun'

YHVH tier
Persona 4
SMT3
Strange Journey
SMT1

excellent tier
Persona Q
SMT4
SMT4 Apocalypse
Devil Survivor 2
Devil Survivor
Digital Devil Saga 2
Digital Devil Saga

Pretty good tier
Persona 3 FES
Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army
Persona 2: Innocent Sin

If you disagree, you've played a lot of megaten and are a great fellow.

>>374233542
Have fun my man. Apocalypse is my favorite mainline SMT.

>>374233438
oh look. you can see in the corner her portrait before she gets turned into a non-human. now people will stop bitching about her lack of helmet

>>374233659

I'm not sure why it and IV get so much shit. They're not even my first SMT games and I think they were fine. I liked Final more than IV, but I liked Nocturne more than the both of them. Played them all last year (as well as 1 and 2), so no nostalgia.

>>374233697
That's the sickbay crew girl.

>>374223816
The Raidou vs Hitoshura cinematic from SMTIII jap is fucking awesome.

>>374233438
Why are demons disguising themselves as cute girls?
Will SMTV have a cute irish girl too?

>>374226164
Wasn't Akira assassinated by the angels though? Apocalypse implies so in the notes.

>>374234231
It'll also have a completely trustworthy nun that you should always listen to.

>>374233750
IV is great but has pacing issues and the worst world map of the entire series I think. I really liked it though but I had to use a game guide to finish it.

IVA is better than IV on almost everything but the story is too much shonen-like for most of the original fanbase.

Though i agree that Nocturne has fantastic atmosphere despite its flaws.

>>374220557
Jack Bros

>>374234549
>pacing issues
Story is terrible. the designs that they unnecessarily altered are fucking over designed shit. The combat is the worst part though. Lets remove vit and make a system that lets npc players fuck over your fight. I lot two medusa and minotaur about 12 times because I kept getting assholes who'd spam their strength right at the end of my turn. This was worse than the rng mudo storms which you could at least protect against. After that the game becomes a piece of cake because you don't have retards you can't control.

I didn't even touch SJ until after 4 but it was a better game even with the steep cliffs.

>>374228623
Why do I get the feeling you just messed up bump? I just woke up so I'm probably just slowly adapting again.

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Persona Fans, if you're even here, question. What was this? Have you guys ever played it? Was actually trying to find footage of it but got nothing.