/sthg/ - Sonic The Hedgehog General

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>classic Sonic means time travel
>robots are more sinister and generic white with red eyes
>is straight up destroying towns
>written by Iizuka, who was in charge of Rivals

Main villain of Forces will be Eggman Nega.

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So this exists.

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I want sonic to despair in forces!

>06
>Rush&Rivals subseries
>Secret Rings
>Riders subseries (1-2)
>Unleashed
>Black Knight
>Free Riders
>Colors
>Generations

>Lost World
>Forces

If the plots of these games were written in like a book or comic book or... something, does the narrative flow well?

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>>172045050
>feral Tikal

>>172045162
>Rush and Rivals
Considering SEGA mandated that the comics can't use Nega for whatever reason, I'll guess no.

>>172045050
Oh my.

>>172045050
Cream & Tikal are both pacifists linked to Chao, Cream & Sticks are both Amy's best friend, Tikal & Sticks...uh...are both..... orange?

>>172045050
The middle fusion looks like that Milla creature from Freedom planet.

>>172044702
Rivals 2 implied Nega died, seeing as Silver and Espio left him for dead trapped and stuck in an alt universe.

I feel like them not showing him in a main game since implied his ass is really dead now.

>>172045598
Well shit, I only played the first Rivals.

It could easily be handwaved 'he got out somehow.' I expect it, if only because Iizuka.

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>you will never lead a life full of freedom and adventure like Sonic

>>172045317
Tikal and Sticks are both into nature

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>>172044361
Why did Sonic get his ass kicked so much in this movie? wtf Metal/Mecha Sonic is a pushover in the games and the comics but here he's clearly the superior version of Sonic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK82EmKzXEk

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Does anyone else think that eggmans evil forces are basically going to be the sonic version of organization 13?

Why is Sonic so popular with black folks?

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>>172046514

>>172046514
No

>>172046545
The music and 'tude I guess?

The real question is why does he have so many female fans?

>>172046545
Probably the same reason why cuckoldry is so popular with white folks. Who knows.

>>172046713
I blame Tails.

>>172046726
That's an odd comparison.

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>>172046713
Do you really need an answer for that anon?

>cute anthro characters
>strong female characters
>shipping
>platformer

>>172045162
If you can somehow imply that Blaze ended up living a different life in a different dimension after the events of 06, sure.

I'd honestly make Secret Rings take place before all the boost games, since Sonic gets speed break in Secret Rings and its kind of like a pseudo boost.

Both Rush games being before both Rivals games works, Nega came to the past and made it seem like he was Eggman's counterpart to help him win. After failing twice he gives up on that, steals from the future and pretends to be Eggman himself, to get Eggman to win on his own.

Colors is its own stand alone story, but the DS version had Sonic encounter his friends, and you meet Silver and Blaze, who in turn meet each other and become friends, even having deja vu of being partners.

Chronicles, Unleashed and Black Knight work well together going back to back, seeing as Chronicles' ending works really well into leading too the opening of Unleashed. They also work with Sonic's relationship with Amy, Chronicles you can have Sonic be nicer to her, Unleashed you have the option to tell Amy you'll go on a date with her, and Black Knight is the story of why Sonic misses his date with Amy.

They all work in their own weird way, due to tiny nods.

>>172046713
Sonadow of course

>>172046514
I would want to see that too

>>172047038
>>172046997
>woman are furries
As a Bkazefag, I guess.

>>172046575
>>172046670
I'm serious though sonic has his friends as his forces so what if eggman got a bunch of anthros to be his forces of evil? What if the new character is a part of eggmans army?

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>>172047631

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>>172047038
>>172047461
Not really. Furries are more about the lifestyle and the fetish. Girls just like cute animals.

Not to mention the Sonic series has some pretty cutesy themes like friendship and teamwork combined with kid-friendly dramatic stuff and all that Kingdom Hearts shit.

>>172047631
Kid, go somewhere else. Please.

>>172047631
>I'm serious though

And I'm concerned for you. He's going to have robots.

>>172046514
I would be down for this

>>172047729
I don't read the comics faggot.

>>172046385
Classic storytelling/showing how much a threat he is.

>>172047767
>Furries are more about the lifestyle and the fetish.
>implying girls don't get into that shit as well

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post Sticks

>>172048158
Anon, I'm gonna need you to get more Sticks pics. You've worn that one out.

>tfw your sister called blaze a trick

>>172048281
That's the only sexy Sticks pic you will ever find.

Also I'm not the one who posted it this time.

>>172045598

If he was really dead now, I don't think they'd include him in the Mario and Sonic series and have him in the Sonic Channel comics that were made last year, especially as Japan wouldn't have access to this information without looking at overseas sources (the future descendent thing is stated in his official Sonic Channel bio, so they have that info).

>>172046713
I don't think there are as many female fans as some say.

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>>172045598
>Rivals 2 implied Nega died, seeing as Silver and Espio left him for dead trapped and stuck in an alt universe.
Silver don't fuck around. Guaranteed Sonic would've foolishly saved Eggman were it those two in that situation

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>>172048449
You're not trying hard enough.

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>>172048578
There was apparently a poll.

>>172047963
>uses a weeaboo image board
>not a fag
A-anon, I...

>>172048292
What does that mean?

>>172048853
I didn't vote in that poll and I don't think you did either.

>>172049020
I didn't know there was one, so you have a point.

Did anyone finish the fusion chart with Fiona and Gold on it or the original pic?

How much is a ring in Sonic worth?

There's certainly a lot of them to go around.

>>172047012
In regards to "BOOST" and Sonic's speed development, the way I would do it, is have it start in '06. The Mach Speed sections and the Blue Sol Emerald Custom Gem being like the precursor to Sonic's Boost-centric style of movement and ability and such. Then after the '06 time reset, Sonic's growth kinda-sorta remains unchanged. In both the Rush and Rivals series, Sonic's taking it further by, in the Rush series, really starting out his developing/learning/practicing of the Sonic Boost, and in the Rivals series, his 'Sonic Boom' technique that pretty much works like a temporary Sonic Boost, with him breaking the Sound Barrier, and then in Secret Rings he develops it more and more, until finally, at the time of the World Adventure, Sonic is finally "UNLEASHED" and he takes on a brand new way of moving and using his speed altogether, and learning to use Ring Energy as an endless quick fuel source for constant boosting.

>>172049296
Due to inflation not much.

>>172049325
Shut the fuck up, sparky

>>172048853
It basically means prositute

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How much do you think pic related took from Sonic?

>protagonist wears blue and is mute
>sidekick is yellow-orange and is a wisecracking jackass, like Sonic
>story involves an evil mad scientist and the final boss is a giant robot
>Jak turns "super" at the last second
>blue eco makes you fast
>red eco makes you strong
>environments have ring-like objects and springs
>locales are filled with ancient ruins and such
>slowly goes from nature to technological locations

>>172049447
Too bad it's a shit game from a shit developer

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>>172049690
>He actually thinks Jak is a good game

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>>172049857
>implying you're not samefagging
>implying you're not trolling

>>172049423
But Rouge.

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>>172049857
Anon what are you doing?

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>>172049997
>Having a different opinion is trolling

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>>172050076
>"Jak is shit"
>posts in Sonic The Hedgehog general

You have no right to judge anyone's tastes in 3D platformers.

>>172050174
Even 06 is better than jak

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>>172045153

>>172049251
*...or have the original pic?

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>>172049575
>>172049857
>>172050076
>>172050245

I've found myself between two different schools of thought in regards to how I really think Sonic's Gameplay should be, and how Sonic would really move in general.

On one side, it's the Sonic Boost and Air Boost, Quick Step, Sonic Drift, the standard Homing Attack and Jump Dash, Sliding, Stomping, Wall Jumping, and the Lightspeed Dash, etc. tailored specifically for Unleashing Sonic the Hedgehog and truly moving at supersonic speeds freely with nothing holding you back.

On the other side, it's the Spin Dash and the Super Peelout, the Elemental Shield abilities made natural skills with the Bounce, Mid-Air Dash, and Double Jump, along with a "Focused" Homing Attack that allows you to charge up and take out multiple enemies at once, Flying Kick and Somersault Kick, Lightspeed Dash and Lightspeed Attack, and most importantly, full-blown Parkour that allows you to run through the zones just like how Sonic did in the CD Opening and stuff, being able to run freely along and across walls and leap vast distances between them, and stuff like that.

But what I really want to know is

How can these two differing approaches to Sonic's Speed/Gameplay be unified into one super gameplay style, without losing the best of either?

>>172050350
Stop advertising your shitty game.

>>172050572
Tl;dr, how do you combine blasting through with Sonic Speed, with rolling around at the speed of sound like a sonic spinball?

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>>172050572
https://youtu.be/JVKFRxgwSWE
https://youtu.be/Y1XOpPoh0K8

These two videos have vastly different approaches on how to handle Sonic in 3D and I think both are valid. One wants to have a momentum-based linear 3D platformer designed for exploration and atmosphere, the other wants a racing-style Sonic in closed off levels and tracks designed for speedrunning.

I'm really torn.

>>172050572
Open world. Not even memeing. You want to merge all of Sonic's movement styles together, give him a massive fuck-off world to run around in. You can have wide open areas for him to boost fast in, you can have tall hills to roll down, you can have plenty of 3D space to use to create obstacles. Player can pick and choose which areas they want to favor, and letting it blend seemlessly gives the player infinite possibilities when it comes to doing shit.

The reason why open world sucks in RPGs is because just running around in open space is fucking boring with nothing else to do, but running around is the point to a Sonic game so it just means more gameplay. You don't even need massive amounts of detailed level design because just haphazardly tossing shit around works just fine for Sonic.

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>>172050609
>being dumb enough to think that simple anon made that detailed game

Which is better, Bouncing or Stomping? Or, alternatively, how could they work together alongside each other?

With the Boost and Spin Dash, I already have a general idea. Have the Spin Dash charge up light like in Sonic Adventure, and so it slowly builds up the Boost guage, and that way you can have both the Spin Dash and the Boost.

Actually, now that I think about it, it could be like, the Boost Gauge is completely empty and you're using the Spin Dash to fill it. But you can't use the Boost until you COMPLETELY fill the Guage, and then after you use it like you normally would, with the Ring Energy and all that.

>>172051491
>Which is better, Bouncing or Stomping?
Bouncing because it compliments physics while stomping removes all momentum.

>Or, alternatively, how could they work together alongside each other?
Exactly what I said. Stomping should ideally be a beginner move used to halt momentum when the player feels overwhelmed, but used sparingly by more skilled players. Bouncing should be the opposite, abused by skilled players to take advantage of the physics.

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>>91025765

The comic's dead isn't it?

>>172052240
Archie & SEGA are talking. That's all we know.

>>172052240
And I screwed up the link

>>>91025765

Bottom line: Champions graphic novel and Overdrive are canceled, next issue is pushed back.

>>172052384
The threads on /co/. Here's a link to the article:
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/03/archie-sonic-comic-update-sega-and-archie-talking-missing-solicits-again-sonic-mega-drive-overdrive-worry/

>The final major update is a bit of a worrying one for those following the Mega Drive series. The order form for April 2017 has been uploaded onto PreviewsWorld. It shows that Sonic the Hedgehog #293, currently listed as coming out March 22nd on information pages, is to be resolicited. Two Sonic products are listed as being cancelled by the publisher; Sonic the Hedgehog Volume 5 (the graphic novel collection of all the issues that made up the Champions arc), and Sonic Mega Drive: Overdrive #1. The latter issue was the final part to the highly acclaimed series of one shots that comprised the Mega Drive arc, so if it is truly cancelled it’ll be a blow to those who wanted to see the story concluded.

>>172052096
But the thing about the Stomp is that it fits perfectly with the Boost gameplay. Like, when you're in the air moving at supersonic speeds, you can use the Stomp to stop and ground yourself before blasting off again.

>>172050609
Says the faggot who has never amounted to anything in this community.

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Shadowfag here. Make me say something funny in Shadow's voice.

>>172052894
please don't

>>172052894
Or actually anything really. Doesn't have to be funny.

>>172052981
y tho :(((

>>172052719
"The Sonic Community" reads the same as "The Black Community" and "The Gay Community" to me.

As in, "it's just something they have in common, it isn't some kind of cult, you moron."

>>172052894
Have him confess his love to Sonic.

>>172052981
Too late.

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>>172052894
>are you trying to antagonize me?

>>172052894
Call Sonic a rat.

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I may have depression. Please post cute.

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>>172053060
The Sonic Community!?

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>>172053168

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>>172053168
Sorry to hear that, man. Have some Amy.

>>172052894
Mephiles' lines toward Shadow, except it's Shadow saying it, and it's directed to Sonic.

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>>172053168
But did we give it to you?

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>>172053168
here is some cute thirsty Amy

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>>172052894
you should say this

>>172052894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuXOkGvZNaI

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>>172044598
This is just a little discomforting

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You are given the task to reboot Sonic Adventure 1&2 completely in a new engine, in preparation for Sonic Adventure 3, How do you do it?

I would do this for SA1:
+Scale the levels to be 3x as big and resdesign some aspects
+Completely redesign Station Square and Mystic ruins to be current, make them much bigger with npcs and side missions
+Add more realistic grass, trees and flora everywhere
+Add GIA
+Make Big the Cat's story optional or as a minigame
+Replace big the cats story slot with Metal Sonic's Story it explains what happened to metal sonic post before the events of adventure
+Add a couch co-op, split screen race mode where you can pick one of the 7 characters and race on each stage, each character gets multiplayer powers to even the playing field, also the Singleplayer powerups are removed in 2P mode
+Make twinkle park cart racing a viable minigame with multiple tracks and a 2P mode
+Light speed dash is sa2 style
+add crossplat online multiplayer with up to 4 players

What I would do to SA2:
+Scale and redesign most levels to be bigger and current year
+Add 5 hubworlds that contain the appropriate stages
-station square v2
-mystic ruins v2
-island
-desert village
-space hubworld
+Each new hubworld contains npcs with missions to complete in stages[optional but unlocks special items for chao, extra lives, rings, etc]
+Each character has a separate story select instead of just hero and dark
+Remove tails from the mech but instead give him his gadgets from sonic battle, and his jet anklet from SA1
+Update and improve the cart racing in sa2
+Add crossplat online multiplayer with up to 4 characters

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>>172053247
>>172053267
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>>172053661
Thanks, just to clarify, any cute is areciated, not just Amy.

>>172053346
No, it was my shitty friends, or maybe realizing that they really aren't to begin with.

>>172052894
Imagine how would Shadow talk if he were in AoStH.

>>172053756
>You are given the task to reboot Sonic Adventure 1&2 completely in a new engine, in preparation for Sonic Adventure 3, How do you do it?
Hire Yasuhara and tell him to go nuts.

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>>172054084
Well, hopefully you'll get better, anon.

>>172054150
Yasuhara? Who is that?

>>172054223
Hirokazu Yasuhara, the lead game designer and level designer during the classic games, ended up being politiced out of Sonic Team during the Saturn era and left Sega shortly after Sega went third-party.

>>172052894
Say sonic forces will be the best mainline title since sonic adventure 2.

>>172054563
Think he could design a good 3D game?

New Boom version of old character confirmed, it's Silver. He still has his psychic powers but he's completely accident prone, every time he uses them he winds up screwing up until everybody including Eggman, form an angry mob to force him off the island. Shadow appears again but it's kinda a cameo of silver accidentally burying him under a tone of eggman robots while he was watching from afear in his typical pose and making edgy comments.

>>172054821
Sauce?

>>172054821
Link or you're full of it.

>>172054646
I think it'd be worth a shot. Yasuhara was the main reason why the classic games turned out the way they did when Naka just wanted a game he could hold right to go fast in. IMO his absence from Adventure is why the gameplay felt so mediocre compared to the classic games.

>>172053756
You've got some good ideas. Just
>Completely redesign Station Square and Mystic ruins to be current, make them much bigger with npcs and side missions
>Make Big the Cat's story optional or as a minigame
and
>Add 5 hubworlds that contain the appropriate stages
Would be enough to get me to buy them.

If given he chance, I would maybe some non-canon additional levels or boss fights? Like, even though none of this happens in the story of Adventure 1 or 2, have an optional Stardust Speedway stage fighting Metal Sonic, or some other iconic stage from a later or earlier game? What I would be going for is something like Generations where you get to relive some fan favorite parts of previous games in a newer game without worrying about continuity, but instead of boost it is adventure gameplay. Maybe even add new playable characters in a similar fashion.

I think that stuff like that might be neat as a hidden level or something unexpected you unlock after beating the main game. Or, more realistically, as some kind of DLC.

>>172053756
Hmm....

For Sonic Adventure...

I think I'd actually change Amy's gameplay style completely from the ground up. ...Well, actually, no, propably not that extreme. But, I'd basically change it so that her gameplay is built around her Mysticality and not just the Piko Piko Hammer, while still keeping it simple. I...am not sure how that would be done, though. At the very least, the Long Hammer upgrade would be replaced with something more mystical.

Tails and Knuckles would be capable of Spin Dashing.

Uh... can't really think of much else.

For Sonic Adventure 2... my very first thought is to change Tails, BUT the whole Hero v. Dark mirror thing, Sonic and Shadow play alike, Knuckles and Rouge play alike, and so Tails and Eggman play alike. So I'm not sure how I could change Tails to play more like himself in this case... hm... maybe Tails - Eggman and Knuckles - Rouge could be altered. I mean, Shadow playing identical to Sonic makes perfect sense, He's a dark counterpart to Sonic and shares his speed and abilities. But Rouge and Eggman aren't carbon copies of Knuckles and Tails. They just share a specific character trait and ability. Tails' technology and Knuckles' treasure hunting were emphasized in SA2 because of Eggman and Rouge. As a result, the Sonic Core of their gameplay was completely removed. I would undo that. For Knuckles, I'd keep him having Sonic's Core gameplay as the baseline with his own abilities on top of that, and Rouge would follow suit for Shadow. But Rouge wouldn't be a carbon copy of Knuckles. The way her gliding and climbing, and kicking and stuff would work would be much different. I'd actually have Rouge's gliding be like an inbetween of Flying and Gliding, and the use of it and her kicks and stuff would give her more of an " stealth&agile" vibe then a Powerhouse like Knuckles. For Tails and Eggman...I'm still at a loss. I... I don't know...

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>>172054084
Oh, I'm sorry anon. But you should have known, we are your only friends.

>>172055002
These are some great ideas, I would definitely like more boss fights, maybe each of the metal sonics, metal, metal mkII, silver sonic, mecha sonic

I wanted to keep playable characters to a minimum because some people are autistic and screech, but the core 6 characters (minus big) are widely loved and accepted for the most part.

Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy
E102
Metal Sonic

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>>172055675
>For Sonic Adventure 2... my very first thought is to change Tails, BUT the whole Hero v. Dark mirror thing, Sonic and Shadow play alike, Knuckles and Rouge play alike, and so Tails and Eggman play alike. So I'm not sure how I could change Tails to play more like himself in this case... hm... maybe Tails - Eggman and Knuckles - Rouge could be altered. I mean, Shadow playing identical to Sonic makes perfect sense, He's a dark counterpart to Sonic and shares his speed and abilities. But Rouge and Eggman aren't carbon copies of Knuckles and Tails. They just share a specific character trait and ability. Tails' technology and Knuckles' treasure hunting were emphasized in SA2 because of Eggman and Rouge. As a result, the Sonic Core of their gameplay was completely removed. I would undo that. For Knuckles, I'd keep him having Sonic's Core gameplay as the baseline with his own abilities on top of that, and Rouge would follow suit for Shadow. But Rouge wouldn't be a carbon copy of Knuckles. The way her gliding and climbing, and kicking and stuff would work would be much different. I'd actually have Rouge's gliding be like an inbetween of Flying and Gliding, and the use of it and her kicks and stuff would give her more of an " stealth&agile" vibe then a Powerhouse like Knuckles. For Tails and Eggman...I'm still at a loss. I... I don't know...
That's... actually a pretty good idea. Personally, I'd change Tails and Eggman's controls so that they felt like Gamma in Adventure 1. Total powerhouses like their mechs are supposed to be, instead of underpowered heavyweights.

You know, watching the opening cutscene of Unleashed, it's totally possible for Eggman to take over the world without Sonic around, he was able to drag Sonic out of his super form and actually capable of catching him when they fought earlier. If he can do that he definitely wouldn't of had an issue with Shadow,Rouge,Omega,Knuckles, Amy or Tails.

>>172055675
I agree with most of this actually, but the pairing of tails and eggman need not be changed here's why.

Tails in sonic battle had upgraded his arsenal to include some handheld gadgets, including a handheld cannon, and a mechanical boxing glove, these would subsitute the mech boxing glove and mech canon. The jet anklet would also substitute for the hover jets.

I think the mistake was thinking that tails needed to play exactly the same as eggman. The two should be different in playstyle, but same in technical genius.

>>172046997
>strong female characters
But they constantly get their asses kick while the guys save the day.

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>>172056042
>drag Sonic out of his Super form
Knuckles did that to, without any machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtTR-_Klcq8

So anyone remember this song? Y'know that line "give it to me baby"? That's Sticks.

>>172056313
Yes, but Knuckles had an innate connection to the Master Emerald, and therefore, the Chaos Emeralds. For someone who DOESN'T have that connection to drag someone out of their Super form, that's pretty powerful.

>>172056312
Well, we've seen Blaze handle herself very well in the games, as well as Rouge & Amy being able being to fight.

>>172046713
>Cute
>Lots of boys
>Drama
>Wide appeal
>Big fan community to participate in

You may as well ask why boys like Transformers.

>>172046713
Because girls want a cute guy to save them and they love animals, put 2 and 2 together.

>>172056312
>strong female characters
This meme needs to die

>>172056603
>meme

By strong female characters, they mean characters who have shown as being capable in a battle, & Blaze, Amy & Rouge fit that description. Don't overthink it.

>>172056312
>Rouge
>Blaze
>Wave
>Getting their asses kicked
Come on, anon, don't let Amy drag everyone down.

>>172056019
I'd keep Eggman the same but with smoother controls. For Tails, I'd give him an eject button, after which you could move around using the same moveset as in Adventure 1. When far away from the mech the eject button would function as a Call Mech button, and when right next to the mech it'd let Tails get back in. While out of his mech Tails can fly vertically and handle minor threats but his main role is puzzle solving; he needs the firepower of his mech to take out threats that are powerful, large in number, and/or farther away than spin attack range, and the mech should be able to hover in the air longer than Tails can because it doesn't get tired. The level design should make it possible for him to finish every level outside of his mech but it should be difficult, brutally so in later levels, and there would be an achievement for completing all of Tails' levels outside his mech.

I think Eggman should handle primarily in his standard hover orb, with the mech being a single vehicle. He would therefore be able to hijack other vehicles as the situation demanded. Like Tails, Eggman could complete every level entirely in his flying egg, but it would be much more difficult.

>>172056506
Blaze is scary when she's mad. I saw that panel in the comic, she blew Captain Metal to bits and pieces. Maybe Boom Blaze would be a nice person but have Katie Kaboom level rage if she got too pissed off.

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>>172056312
As we know, men swooping in with the save is completely unheard of in fiction that women enjoy.

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>>172053075
No.

>>172053143
I didn't even notice this one. Oops. Oh well.

>>172053140
>>172053319
>>172053696
>>172053723
As for the rest of you:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XQGbVYRqTZ

>>172056480
Knuckles is also just as strong as Sonic is fast. Knuckles is, like, specifically tailored to be the one thing that can "STOP" Sonic. He has the Power to counter Sonic's speed, and the Master Emerald (Order) to counter Sonic's Chaos.

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>>172056856
>Like Maria, Professor Gerald or... Maria

>>172056904
Knuckles was the protoshadow.

Prove me wrong

>>172057051
Knuckles is the counter to Sonic.

Shadow IS Sonic.

Fighting Water with Fire, versus fighting Water with MORE WATER.

>>172057051
No, you're correct, Vegeta is just an edgier Piccolo.

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>>172056748
I know you're most likely joking around, but your post gives me an excuse to post this pic.

>>172057215
Sonic = Goku
Tails = Gohan?
Amy = Chi Chi
Knuckles = Piccolo
Shadow = Vegeta

>>172056856
Beautiful. Perfection.

>>172057363
Tails is like Bulma and Gohan mixed into one

Also eggman is like a fat Dr. Gero

>>172056807
I don't think women enjoy Sailor Moon.

>>172057535
Then who was Sailor Moon for, anon?

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Guys, I have figured out what mysterious third type of gameplay is.

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>>172057535
Yes, they also hate Fullmetal Alchemist and Fruits Basket.
How's it hanging in Bizarroverse, anyway?

>>172057363
>Knuckles = Piccolo
More like Krillin.

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>Sonic Forces
>Sonic For Ces
>Sonic 4 Says
>third gameplay is AoStH Sonic using Sonic 4 gameplay

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When did this turn into /dbzg/?

Would you like a game starring Amy? Tails had some, Shadow had his, Knuckles sort of had too, it's time for her to get one.

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>>172057034
>>172057419
t-thanks

>>172057797
Eh idk, maybe a perfect mix between piccolo, yamcha, and tien he shares traits with all of them. I don't see krillin in him that much, I see more krillin in silver.

>>172057313
>>172057313
That was such a weird game to solve plot points
>Blaze and Silver apparently can come and go as they please
>Some Wisps liked it on earth so they stayed around, Yacker, not included.
>Tikal apparently can come out of the master emerald at will
>The deadly six survived their fights with Sonic and are plotting revenge
>Knuckles hides the master emerald in another location whenever he wants to leave Angel Island
>Eggman makes tons of dummy bots to keep Omega busy
>Erazor's been split into 1000 pieces and now he's a wish granting desperato eager to grant wishes to whoever he meets.
>Merlina kinda wishes to drag Sonic back into camalot because the other knights won't stop asking about him.

Out of all of that they ignore Eggman Nega but officially he managed to get out of the rivals 2 problem he was in. So he's still alive as are the deadly six. I think the only other characters not mentioned at all are Marine and the Babaloyn rouges

>>172057051
Knuckles and Shadow are too completely different ideas, yet for some reason they sort of overlap. But primarily, Knuckles is The Rival, as the perfect counter to Sonic in everyway. He's like the opposite, or the anti-Sonic, in the sense that were Sonic is like the wind, Knuckles is the mountain. Where Sonic is a free-spirit, Knuckles has responsibility. Where Sonic is fast, Knuckles is strong. Where Sonic is chaos, Knuckles is order. Knuckles is the immovable object to Sonic's unstoppable force. Like, imagine Sonic boosting at supersonic speeds down a path or something, and at the very end is Knuckles standing there with his fist raised back. Then, Sonic runs into Knuckles, and they collide. Knuckles punches Sonic with equal force to Sonic's speed.

Shadow is a dark-incarnation of Sonic. And for some reason, that can also be called an 'Anti-Sonic' or something, but he's not really the opposite. His shtick is that he is the same as Sonic, except for something that sets him apart. Shadow is supposed to be Sonic's "Shadow-Archetype", showing off a different side of Sonic that is usually hidden. In action, he has all of Sonic's abilities. He's the wind, like Sonic. He's chaos, like Sonic. He's an unstoppable force, like Sonic. But if there's one thing that sets him apart from Sonic, other than his darkness, it's his 'control'.

Let's say there's a normal rebellious teenager. In one scenario, his parents and teachers and stuff don't enforce the rules on him much, so he's pretty much free to do whatever he wants without consequences. And so, he's allowed to be a free spirit, and he's usually in a good mood. But in another scenario, the rules ARE unforced. The teen's rebelliousness is viewed as unruly behavior, they keep trying to force him to behave and follow the rules, and they don't like his attitude. And so the teen's mood grows darker, angrier, and more destructive, until everything blows out of proportion that the teen is shipped to Military School.

>>172057051
Metal Sonic was the evil twin.
Knuckles was the evil triplet.
Shadow was the evil quadruplet.
Then there were Jet, Blaze, Silver and Mephiles.

>>172058123
>her time
Fuck off CTR, women should only have secondary roles in videogames, just like real life.

>>172058465
Weak b8

>>172058465
>>>/pol/

>>172058378
>Knuckles hides the master emerald in another location whenever he wants to leave Angel Island
Like in a different location on the island, or in a new location entirely. If the latter, I feel bad for the local islands getting hit by frequent tsunamis

Looks like the idiot came off his ban.

>>172056856
Heh, nice.

>>172058958
Who?

>>172058391
Alternatively, let's say there is a different teenager (Teenager B). He's not rebellious like the first one (Teenager A-1), this teen is much more obediant and usually follows all the rules with feirce dedication and loyalty. To the point that he would even enforce these ruls, even if he doesn't fully understand them. And naturally, Teen B will be at odds with Teen A-1.

Teen A-2, the one sent to Military School, has lived a life that tried to tame and control Teen A and mold him into being like Teen B. So now, Teen A-2 appears to be another law enforcer-type, but he's also trying to control himself and surpress his naturally chaotic and rebellious nature. If the inhibitions are released, he'll act much more destructive (to the world and himself) because it's been repressed for so long.

Hmm...

What if there was a scenario where Teen B lived a life without rules and such? How would he, a guy that naturally leans towards Order, act...?

>>172058770
The island, apparently so long as it's connected to the island in some way it won't fall. Didn't the comic's use an excuse like this,too?

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>>172056856
>This is who I am, BRAH

>>172059410
The comics had Knuckles ask the Chaotix look for it for him preboot.

Post-boot, tons of fakes from Hidden Palace Zone,

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>>172045050
Not bad, not bad at all.

Definitely approve of the top one though

>>172060130
>Post-boot, tons of fakes from Hidden Palace Zone,
That's actually really cleaver of him, but man, Tikal and Chaos are probably gonna be bored out of their minds since they don't get that fantastic view and Knuckle's company anymore. That is, unless comic Chaos and Tikal can leave the Master Emerald whenever they wish and it's more or less, their "link" to the world

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Hey /sthg/, been wanting to step up my art game a bit. Do you have any decent how-to-draw guides for Sonic characters? Or reference sheets? I think I have the fundamentals down, but need to work a lot on dynamic poses as well as figuring out how to do 'joints' better with the rubber noodle look.

What if... Sonic absorbed Chaos, Blaze absorbed Solaris.... and Knuckles absorbed... Tikal?

>>172060331
Anymore of these fusion charts?

>>172060548
Chaos up and went to the ocean when the planet broke in the beginning of the Shattered Worlds Crisi so that he could keep it together.

Tikal just manifests anywhere there's a strong spiritual presence, which includes temples and the Master Emerald.

It's all moot because Knuckles hangs around the real one anyways.

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>>172060925
Yes actually. While some of us are still waiting for that initial chart to be finished I did ask everyone what charts they would like to see so I made two more, with pic related being the second out of the two.

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>>172060661

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>>172061110
This was the first one, made via tallying up suggestions.

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>>172060661
>>172061134

>>172056856
Thanks, Shadow bro!

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>>172061134
>start with straight sticks for legs then have them bend later
I never noticed that, this is really useful, thanks Anon.

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>>172060661
>>172061325

>>172061110
Why do Archie comics have so many barefoot cuties?

>>172061740
The fish people are barefoot because they're fish. No need for shoes when they're swimming everywhere most of the time, and it gets in the way of their flippers.

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Friendly reminder that the cast and crew of Sonic Boom are doing another live tweet event on Twitter..

The Occasion for this is that Cindy Robinson, the current VA for Amy Rose is the writer for this week's episode so she's open to answer questions.

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Hey guys, I've figured out why Amy's voice sounded like Minnie Mouse all the way back in Generations and Lost World.

>>172060661
>Do you have any decent how-to-draw guides for Sonic characters?
Yes. Yes, I do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo_gJwXxshQ

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>>172063241
Cindy gets really fucking defensive if you criticize her Generations voice.

I mean she has a point that it was the directing, but her attitude is just uncalled for.

>>172063241
Shit, that was a nice question!

Why do people hate Minnie Mouse?

>>172063537
>"Hey guys, can you please stop telling me to kill myself for stuff that I have no say in."
>uncalled for
Stop being retarded.

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>>172063815
Because she's the best Disney girl.

Period.

>>172063815
Because she sounds nothing like Amy. Making Amy sound like Minnie Mouse makes her sound frail, when her post-CD character is supposed to be the opposite. Also, it sounds weird.

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>>172063537
She does come off as very defensive, but at the same time, having spent over a decade, almost a decade and a half with the Sonic fanbase, I can only imagine how much pressure they put on her to make the ideal performance, especially those that take Amy to waifu levels.

Also it's been a while but I beat Sonic Generations and don't remember any issues with Amy's voice at all.

>>172063960
>you obviously don't know my work
>calling me a bad actress is literal rape!
>I appreciate if you guys would fuck off

Whether you agree with her or not, it's still unprofessional.

>>172064007
>Making Amy sound like Minnie Mouse makes her sound frail
I thought Amy was suppose to sound cute.

>>172064252
Given the state of the Sonic fanbase, she was incredibly professional and courteous. You're also exaggerating a fuck-ton and are overall a manchild.

>>172064252
Nice strawman.

>>172063537
That's nothing, ever play Blazblue? All of the voice actors for those characters get mad if you shit talk their performance in Chronophantasma, apparently the voice direction was extremely rushed and there were little to no second takes.

>>172064364
Yes, cute, but Minnie Mouse is more frail and cautious. She doesn't have to have a super-deep voice, but it has to have some weight to it. Boom Amy has not a lot, but some. That's why people like Amy's voice in Boom, when it's otherwise identical to Amy's voice in Generations and Lost World.

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Never Change Mike.

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>>172064876
>Mike Pollock will die in your lifetime

>>172065134
Not if I die first!

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>>172061325
>>172061134
>>172061501

Wasn't there an imgur link of a bunch of Sanic tutorials someone posted earlier?

>>172058123
I remember seeing something about an Amy card playing mobile game, that was exclusive in Japan so she's kinda had hers already. I'd like to see a full-fledged Amy game, tho.

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Cindy intentionally wrote a nod to the Sonamy fans in today's Boom episode

SHE KNOWS.

>>172066040
what happened?

>>172066141
Don't know, I'm following the live tweet of the episode since I have to wait till it ends up online.

Essentially there's a line in the episode that acts as a shout out to Sonamy fans.

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>>172056856
>Cum with me, Sonic

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Other things to note.

Eggman Mentions "Mombot" a character that will appear in next week's episode. Apparently the scheduling was out of order.

Knuckles uses a Baby harness in one scene. Noting this because according to Bill, it will be used again in Evan Stanley's Boom Episode.

>>172066383
>it ends up online

Let's hope so, after last week.

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>>172066756
Last thing I wanted to share was this post from Bill.

Take that how you will.

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>>172063815
She's a total cutie.
>>172064007
I dunno, Amy always struck me as very Minnie mouse.

>Girl version of main character
>Somewhat mature look despite her character's inherent cuteness (Amy's dress and boots and minnie's Pumps)
>Constant panty shots.

I mean if you told me Amy was Minnie mouse inspired I wouldn't be surprised at all.

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>>172067035
Sounds like Yoto's headcanon was right all along!

Do we know when other mainline characters appear in future episodes?

>>172067632
At the moment, no.

They're keeping it a surprise I'm guessing.

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>Yoko Shimomura will never compose a Sonic game

https://youtu.be/_08UW--nydg

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Why is the whole staff a bunch of Hilarious Geniuses?

>>172068040
We could harass Team Chaotix's Rouge's, Cream's Blaze's and Silver's VA's to see if they've been contacted for any Boom related work. Through honestly I'm expecting the Chaotix, they're goofy enough to fit into Boom without changing their personalities, Blaze is too serious, Silver's already a dweeb, Rogue is too sexy, Cream is a child and Marine is basically Sticks with brains.

>>172058123
I'd like to see her with a good play style in a main game first.

>>172057051
>Knuckles was the protoshadow.
Knuckles spends the whole game laughing like a doofus, despite his traps not working, he continues to be tricked like a dumbass in later games.

Shadow was the one who tricks Eggman in his first game.

>>172068683
If you're talking about the 3D games, I think Amy's SA1 gameplay would've been much better if she wasn't made so slow.

>>172068238
Fucking Chimp Ball Z is the best anime.

So Archie Sonic is pretty much dead, right?

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>>172060661

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>>172060661
>>172070234

>>172070162
Once again, no one knows. SEGA & Archie are talking, & that's the only information we have at the moment.

>>172070408
>Blaze
>Breasts

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>>172070162
In a sense, possibly.

>>172070497
And despite this artist became an artist for the comic book years later.

She also used to draw Sanic lewds.

Goes to show you can make it big if you try hard enough.

>>172070745
>Goes to show you can make it big if you try hard enough.
You-you're still talking about the job, right?

>>172060723
Fuck those things.

>>172071217
kek

>>172071484
Every time I see this image the poster looks like Penders for some reason.

>>172071835
It's the mustache.

>>172063537
>getting mad over youtube comments

>>172065641
That place was a magical den of autism.
Requesting the one of the girl talking about how she'd kill herself and eat Sonic's shit or whatever.

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>>172072230

>>172063537
Her Generations voice was shit. People need to keep telling her and Sega this.

>>172070234
>>172070408
These are good.

>>172072396
People should keep telling Sega that the voice direction for Amy was shit.

Harassing the VA is the worst thing to do because they're literally just doing the job they're paid to do.

>>172072356
Thank you.
Please post anything you have from that site, if you have more.
Is there anybody here who doesn't know about Sonic Passion?

Why does SEGA usually have such poor voice direction anyway?

It's like the one part of audio in Sonic stuff that they never seem to completely nail.

>>172072356
Wow, I never thought Vivian would be THIS thirsty.

>>172072704
With what Ryan Drummond said about Sonic Adventure, an employee came to his house and told him to read the lines from the microphone and left.

Sega is LAZY when it comes to voices.

>>172072704
The characters have weak personalities so you can't really direct the VA.
It's why the VA in Boom is a lot better, because those characters have more obvious personality traits.

>>172073024
>because those characters have more obvious personality traits.
Snarky, Smart kid, Dumbass, and Stuck-up female. Wow, real strong.

>>172073201
And Tinfoil Hat Weirdo. Can't forget her.

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>>172060331
Oh it's a good thing you brought this up.
I finished it
I would have posted it sooner but I was busy
Here is the girl by herself

http://i.imgur.com/SfjvLEj.png

>>172063537
>Boohoo, some meanies are calling me a bad actress!
>Saying this when most of the 4kids VAs got death threats towards them, their friends, and their family 24/7.

Cindy, please.

>>172073425
Nice job, anon!

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>>172073425
Well done! This was an amazing (and long) ride but it was worth it.

Thanks a bunch!

>>172072396
No need to. If Sonic's part in LEGO Dimensions is anything to go by, Game!Amy is keeping her Boom voice from now on.

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>>172073425
> None of the TB fusions have her chubby body
>>172073547

>>172073201
That's more than the games have.

>>172072963
With that kind of direction, Ryan did a pretty damn good job with his role.

>>172073725
>"I could use that favor now, SONIC!"

I think SEGA's already going with the Boom voice.

>>172072963
What the fuck.

>>172072963
Source on this?

>>172073547
Delet this, delet this pic from my memory and delet yourself anon.

>>172073751
I real tried anon but it would just end up like a normal sonic character with a inflation issue.
I think thats why they have thunderbolt dressed so heavily.
But sorry cant please everyone

>>172073846
Not really. But it's for the best if we don't have this discussion.

>>172073425
Love it!

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>>172073547
As we are constantly reminded by shitposting.

>>172074254
>It's for the best that we don't discussing things about the franchise in a general dedicated to it

I agree.
Man Breath of the Wild is a fantastic game.

>>172074453
I disagree, but I've never actually played a Zelda game.

>>172074453
No, more like I think it's for the best if we have an argument about comparing the Boom personalities & the Game personalities. Calm down.

>>172074669
if we don't*

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>>172073547
bruh

>>172074669
Oh alright then, I'll guess we'll just avoid any sort of discussion which could potentially lead to differing opinions.

i like sonic hes fast and cool

>>172074923
Must you overreact? And fuck Sonic.

>>172074923
Sonic is slow.

Eggman is cooler.

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Be nice to Sonic!

The Boom personalities are "best" by virtue of having a weekly cartoon wherein the writing and voice work are the focus, as opposed to the games being one every 2 or 3 years with the writing and voice work being less important than the gameplay. There's nothing saying Sega can't have the games written and directed better, they just have no incentive to do so.

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>>172075117
No

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>>172075365
>yfw Modern Sonic dies in Sonic Forces and this is his reaction

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>>172075117
Nope!

>>172075487
This is my kind of fetish

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>>172075117

>>172075485
>Classic Sonic trying to wake a dead Modern Sonic up

Is it wrong that I want to stuff Sally's cheeks with nuts?

>>172058391
well said.

>>172074254
But he's right. The boom versions have personalities, something the games lack. The boom ones should be the default ones

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>>172073425
Well done anon

>>172044361
>thumbnail

>>172058378
This is all in Sonic runners? isn't that just some subpar mobile game? i've never played it but i know it got removed

>>172075826
>The boom versions have personalities, something the games lack.
The Boom versions have generic personalities.

>The boom ones should be the default ones
That would actually make me quit Sonic for good.

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>>172075676
Yes.

>>172075826
It's called good writing.

Or at least better writers.

>>172075826
Well, I personally disagree, because while I like the Boom portrayals, I prefer they stay in the cartoon.

Who else wants a new remix of E.G.G.M.A.N. in Forces?

>>172076262
I want a remix of his SA1 theme

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Also even though i'm not a fan of her I got commissioned to draw Katella. I thought some of you may like it.

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>>172075676
Not if she's into it.

>>172075998
I like this guy

>>172076602
Nice!

>>172073425
Noice

>>172076368
it worked for vector

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I am now imagining Bunnie without her robot parts just bouncing around.

>>172077201
'Tis but a scratch!

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>>172075117

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Thanks for the tutorials Anons, now I can hopefully zap to the extreme with practice.

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>>172077127

>>172060978
I always thought Chaos was made of water, but I didn't think he had water powers. Do we ever see him explicitly doing something that would imply he has them?

>>172077201
Is this fan made or legit from Sonic Channel?

>>172077372
Good luck anon!

>>172077449
abt made it

>>172075998
For what it's worth, I was going to argue this too when the topic first came about, but I just didn't think it was going to be worth it.

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>All this fan art of beat up modern Sonic but we'll never see it happen in Forces

>>172077372
Nice bean.

>>172077372
Looking forward to seeing your improved drawings!

>>172072963
Surely you must be mistaken

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>>172077934
>sideways

>>172078224
Good work! I'd fuck her.