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We don't have a steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about either "official" or not steam or discord groups, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore them.


How fares your empire, /gsg/?


This day in history, March 15th:
351 – Constantius II elevates his cousin Gallus to Caesar, and puts him in charge of the Eastern part of the Roman Empire.
1493 – Christopher Columbus returns to Spain after his first trip to the Americas
1672 – Charles II of England issues the Royal Declaration of Indulgence.
1783 – In an emotional speech in Newburgh, New York, George Washington asks his officers not to support the Newburgh Conspiracy. The plea is successful and the threatened coup d'état never takes place.
1820 – Maine becomes the 23rd U.S. state.
1848 – A revolution breaks out in Hungary. The Habsburg rulers are compelled to meet the demands of the Reform party.
2011 – Beginning of the Syrian Civil War.


>News
CK2 Monks and Mystics is out. Check the archive.


>Developement Diaries
EU4 - 14/03
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-14th-of-march-2017.1005196/


>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/


# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow


#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume


# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!PQgxyACD!bpcXXoWI3Pfu_PJ1_sz5D7wKYO2OStEWr_npgpw0B_w

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ


Old Thread >>170938385
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Reminder that the warning
>Report and ignore them.
Is already in the OP and does not need to be repeated.
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2nd for based Komnenoi
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dr sage and mr hide
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When is Stellaris going to be /gsg/?
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How do I quickly transfer a lot of vassals at once?
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>>171067264
>norse arab empire ruled by a woman
>Aztecs invading in 1000
Now this is a believable world
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>>171070169
You can do it by duchy if you press give lower titles.

>>171070136
Never.
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I've only been playing with the new dlc for 5 minutes and I already found a bug. What a piece of shit.
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>>171070232
But people were saying that once the new DLC drops there will be advanced pops...
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>>171069658
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>171070304
Those people were lying to you.
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>>171069794
w&b
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>mfw t*rks try to settle Anatolia
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>>171070587
>try
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La Plata
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Is HPM still updated? I was tols to com here from /r/paradoxplaza?
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>>171071281
trob
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>>171071527
What? I just love HPM and I made a thread that got lots of upvotes and we all wanted to know if it was still alive and I, as the most upvoted person on >>>/r/paradoxplaza was elected to come here as our representative.

Now tell me, is. he. okay.?
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>>171071706
No, HPM died in the Brazilian coup
t. HPM's momd
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>>171071853
Jesus Christ, what'll I tell the Redditors?
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>>171071853
>momd
hehe lmap you spelled wrong
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>>171071943
don't bully
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>This one has actually zero on topic posts
You know what to do mods
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>>171072079
Then what is this?
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>>171072172
Based Mexigger.
>losing cali and texas
For fucking shame.
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>>171072079
t. steamcordplaza
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How's the CK2+ beta doing?
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>>171072415
The what?
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>>171069836
Yes it does
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>>171072445
in the mods MEGA archive in OP there's a ck2+_beta4.zip file which I assume is for 2.7
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>>171072415
It's nice, I guess, but MM is also a beta.
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What would a communist revolution in a Japan that is allied to Britain look like in 1939? This revolution is directly caused by Communist Chinese intervention.
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>>171072605
Like fantasy
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>>171072605
Like fucking nonsense
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>>171072605
like hong kong
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>>171072172
Nice borders
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>>171072605
Like bullshit
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>>171072672
>>171072739
>>171072773
Tell me more. Are there riots? Does China forment a civil war in Japan? Where are the power bases of communist support in the nation? How does Britain react if it also means direct confrontation with China? Keep in mind that any weakness for Britain could lead to the US and Russia getting uppity in their realms of interest.
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>>171069794
Why were HoI4 mods removed from the OP? I know it's a shit game, but who made that decision? Does everyone agree with it, or is it going to cause a shitstorm?
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>>171072862
Commies get purged because Japan is a motherfucking Imperial state and doesn't give a fuck
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>>171070335
>anyone who knows the superiority of Shia is a reddit boogeyman
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>>171072862
Why the fuck would any of this happen? Society there is too focused on the Emperor to oust him.
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>>171072172
>8
Not bad for Mexico
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>>171072265
That game was one wild ride.
Started as a conservative dictatorship that become an elite democracy when Santa Anna get captured like a retard in Texas. Eventually peasant unrest started the move to liberalization, but electoral shenanigans by the aristocracy/military elite drove the capitalists to topple the conservative president for a French-backed emperor.
The liberal empire went swimmingly until we got pulled out of the US sphere and the economy crashed, since Mexican industry was reliant on cheap imports from the US. This lead to conservative backlash that would prove short-lived since the US quickly re-sphered Mexico and laissez-faire economics became king again.
Around 1915, there was another huge crash, and communists toppled the monarchy. A fascist counter-coup was put down, and the revolution was spread to Central America.
In the mid-20's, as the Party was tightening its grip on Mexican society, a US-backed liberal revolt broke out in the Mexican heartland, and American troops crossed the Rio Grande. The communists were driven out, and a republic was established.
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>>171072958
Based as fuck.
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>>171072958
Well since the Great Depression never happened Japan never transitioned to the military hegemony and instead is a fairly stable democratic market liberal state. Japan's martial character never emerged as the main wars (Sino and Russian) never occurred due to effective foreign intervention by Britain on Japan's behalf.

Imagine 1960s Japan in the 1930s.
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>>171073097
That won't last long tho
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>>171072862
First of all, explain how communist China in 1939, that can barely control it's own territory has funded and armed an entire coup in Japan.

I swear, fucking HoI4 players..
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>>171073178
m8, do you see the monthly POP growth?
Healthcare + lots of angry Europeans = industrial boom
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>>171073151
What autistic scenario are you imagining this shit in?

Japan was under an empire and massively militaristic for a thousand years before the great depression, and have never been invaded before nukes. why would they suddenly become tibet-esque pussies?
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>>171073102
That's all well and good, but it looks like redditmod.
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>>171073264
What the fuck is "redditmod"?
That's HPM with the map-style of RDS
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>>171073257
Ignore him, lad. He's a HoI4 faggot who thinks Bhutan can coup the US in 6 months.
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>>171073187
Well China collapsed after their important 1932 elections failed to create a cohesive state. A fairly low intensity civil war between warlord states, communist supporters and the central Nanjing government waged. With great support from the Russians and safe access to their holdings in Inner Manchuria, the communists emerged successful. Now they (with their Russian allies) have successfully turned Thailand and Korea to communism and are aiming on either crippling Japan or swaying them to their side before starting a massive anti-colonialism campaign in the far east.
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>>171073240
Still won't last long, soon the US will start stealing most immigrants
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>>171073320
Vickymod. It's creator was a redditor who ws ousted. His mod used the RDS map mod.
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>we've beat the steamcordplaza thread in post count
Now the Janny will surely delete it!
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>>171073437
Buddy, I was pulling at least twice the immigrants the US was. I seriously don't know how, but they were getting nothing.
I had been steadily closing in on the US population wise for like 40 years.
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>>171073370
Lad, what sort of commie fanwank is this? For what game? What the fuck are you on?
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>>171073625
It's pretty extreme, I need to change it. I think I'll just change it to focus on the south and leave Japan and Britain for later.
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>>171073704
That didn't answer a single one of my questions, you cunt.
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>>171073589
I'm not your buddy, friend.
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>>171073741
It's for your mum, she likes my left nut more than my right so we went communist.
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>>171073781
You fucking what?
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>>171073765
>171073765
I'm not your friend, pal
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>>171073918
Are you retarded? Your mother isn't that bright but her kid shouldn't be this daft.
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>>171074048
You fucking want some?
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ayyyyy mates how you all doing? conquered Mecca and Medina last night, reclaiming them for the superior Sunni faith.
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Pharoahs and Consuls mod is out soon for Monks and Mystics

Get hype
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>>171074312
You looking for a tumble?
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>>171074410
>SJW and bloat mod
"no"
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>>171074482
I'll fucking have you.
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>>171074605
I'll fucking wreck you.
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>>171074670
Think you're fucking hard, do you?
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>>171074730
Think you can handle it, do you?
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>>171074763
Oh, I should think so, big boy.
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>>171074856
Oh, I don't think so, laddie.
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>>171073918
>>171074048
>>171074312
>>171074482
>>171074605
>>171074670
>>171074730
>>171074763
>>171074856
>>171074919
just go masturbate you frustrated autismos
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>>171074959
thanks
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>>171074959
Probably a good idea.
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What's the best place to start learning how to play Muslims or Vikings in CK2? I know Ireland is easy-mode for Catholics, but is there any alternative for the other religions?
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>invade Teutonic Order as Russia
>annex Königsberg with previous war's coastal Livonian Order conquests
No Prussia for you Brandenburg, you'll always be a duchy
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>>171075082
>vikings
Play Fairhair in 867 and conquer whatever you want. Vikings are easy mode

>>171075130
Don't bully
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Guys, please....help me....

I want to enjoy CKII so much but I don't know how to get any enjoyment out of the game.

I did the tutorial like 3 times and I feel like they only tell you like 5% of the game.
Every time I do a battle I lose, even if I make sure to have like quadruple the guys as my opponent.
I don't understand any of the broader game mechanics.
I'm nowhere near the level I should be for having purchased this game in like 2014.

Is there anything else I'm missing? Any other tutorials I need to read?
Please for the love of god respond. I want to be autistic and conquer India playing as an Irish count or some shit but I don't know how to do stuff like this.
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>>171074410
Is that as far as you're planning on expanding in Arabia? Because if so those borders are awful.
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>>171075447
Play Fairhair in 867
If you can't succeed as a viking, you're not autistic enough to play gsg
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Played EU3 since it came out, is EU4 an upgrade?
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>>171075517
What should my goal be?
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>>171075456
Nah was going to at least take all of Hejaz natural cores, looks like shit right now but im pretty sure Spain wants to fight right now so ive got to deal with that.
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>>171075668
Reform Norse faith, unite Scandinavia, maybe bully Scotland/England
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>>171075802
That's easy as fuck mate. I've had Scandinavia, Finland, England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and parts of France with Vassal sons in Spain 200 years in. Give him a challenge
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>>171075903
Did you read his post?
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>>171075802
But how do you do shit like this? It doesn't tell you how in the tutorial.
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>>171075989
If you're retarded you should start as Charlemagne then and learn through steamrolling
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>>171075989
Stop wasting time with the tutorial. Just play the game.
Start the game as a Norse pagan, to go the religion tab. Look for a button that says "reform faith" when you hover over it
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>>171076061
And then what? You just click it and wait?
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>>171076141
Read what it says. Click it when all the conditions are met.
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>>171076215
OK, since no one actually wants to help me, I understand. So can you tell me a good Youtube tutorial or something to watch then?
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>>171075762
This is the time anon. Just make sure your navy is ready and try to get a foothold either in Sicily or Granada, depending on which direction you want to go.

IMO a muslim Sultanate of Sicily in control of Kingdom of Two Sicilies-esque territories would be based, but you probably want to reform Cordoba first
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for EU4, What would be the most suitable Military Idea to choose as Castile/Spain that focuses on blitzing colonisation? Every so often I get pulled into a European war by allies as well. If I get Quantity ideas (or pretty much any ideas) will it become the ideas of my colonial nations?
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>>171075447
just play the game
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>>171076326
I tried that strategy. The number of hours I've put into it is embarrassing. Still no closer to understanding it then when I started.
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>play as a Muslim for the first time
>realize how much the mechanics are superior to Christianity
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>>171076381
That's because you're not trying hard enough
Play as Charlemange
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>>171076302
Have Sicily as a vassal but the bastards wont convert.
Also if Spain does go to war with me, it will be plus the Turks versus them France and Portugal, but i really need them to not declare on me for like the next 5 years so i can go raiding again and build up some sort of cash buffer.
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>>171076448
What are the benefits of playing as Charlemagne? Is it just like playing it on turbo easy mode or something?
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>>171076280
>>171076381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRCg5OHB7_M&list=PLH-huzMEgGWDfD5Wg5OBp0Q6aos-3XeV2

This dude is decent.
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>>171076589
It's easy, but might be a bit overwhelming given the size of his lands. The appeal is that there are numerous events unique to Charlemagne (and also Karloman) that allow you to have a more story-oriented game. Plus, given his position and power, there's more to do than what some Irish duke has access to.
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How do I check if a marriage is matrilineal or not?

I don't want to invite people to become my vassals if they either A cannot produce children or B will produce children who belong to a dynasty that serves another liege.

Actually does that even matter? Once they're in my court they serve me right? Even if they inherit the dutchy of some other place, right?
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>>171076589
Sick beard
Stupid hat
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Looks like Spain is not declaring war on me anytime soon, so I will progress in Arabia.
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>>171076793
Are you kidding? That guy is super advanced. I tried watching him before and have no clue about anything he's talking about. He plays the game at lightning speed and fights like 17 wars at once.

Probably not the best recommendation for a beginner lesson, but thanks anyway.
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>>171076898
Click on the character, look below the spouse portrait (where it says Wife or Husband) and check the symbol to the left.

If they're in your court they won't continue to serve you if they inherit lands elsewhere. The only scenario in which they do is when you've already landed them within your realm.
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What does the 'Humiliate' actually do in eu4 peace treaties?
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Something something queen regent accepts that Tunis becomes the home of the new Caliph, Hip Hip Hooray.
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How do these Arabian borders look lads?
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>>171077870
Eh, I don't know. I don't like it. I think you need at least some of Yemen for it to be aesthetic, maybe to where Oman's name is right now (so maybe just taking 1/2 provinces from Oman as well as annexing the leftovers in Yemen) and it'll look good.
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So since the assholes took down the old downloads, for CK2 I need to download it in parts of this sketchy Russian site?

How to I combined them once I finish it all?
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bumping>>171076305
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>>171078764
>So since the assholes took down the old downloads, for CK2 I need to download it in parts of this sketchy Russian site?

The site is legit. You're getting it straight from the source rather than through a reuploader who could potentially fuck with it.

>How to I combined them once I finish it all?

Just extract the first file and winrar/7zip/whatever you use should do it automatically.
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>>171078994
offensive, quality or defensive, pick whichever one seems best for the situations you get in
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>>171079038

Not that anon, but I've been having some problems with it, since I'm a babby and keep fucking up. I have the cleansweep all-in-one .rar downloaded, but when I still through the application I can't see M&M in the dlc, and I have cracked the game, steamfix.
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>>171076305
>>171078994
So far as I'm aware Quantity still has a policy which boosts your colonization associated with it. In vanilla it used to be a free (well 1 military mana) colonist and it was OP as fuck. Even if they removed that it should still provide something like colonial growth which is really good, and it'll help prevent your manpower from going to shit.

But as for whether it'll transfer to your CNs, no. They have their own default ideas which they're given or they select automatically, so far as I know. You'll just have to expand them quickly enough for their manpower and force limits to not be a problem for too long.
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So um this happened, i sure this before when i played the dutch and had colonies in america, but it was always off my primary culture.
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We did it lads, my dream is complete :)
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>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
>27/11/2016
>15/03/2017
Is HPM, dare I say it, dead?
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>>171079419
I'm afraid so

He posts occasionally but only to keep up appearances, soon enough I'm certain he'll be gone for good
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>>171079113
Sounds good but are policies really worth it for the monarch point cost in your opinion? I'm a new player so i dunno
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Well lads we might not of done anything to Spain but we do have a colonial nation in Brazil now so that is nice.
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Is there any reason to make the pope like you other than asking for money?

I was a king who somehow got 100 relation with him and the only thing I could think to do was ask for 140 gold until he had no money left.
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>>171079693
It depends on what you're trying to do, what policies you have available, and what your ruler's stats are, but as long as you're not behind significantly in tech it can often be worth it. Faster colonies is going to be better than maintaining strict military tech parity with your neighbors, for example, because in the long run you'll starve them of wealth and secure shitloads of it yourself, and you'll be able to beat them just by outspending them.

That said, obviously don't neglect anything too far. If you're more than 2 levels behind don't waste a policy, but if you're up-to-date and your ruler's stats look good, there's no reason not to invest in a policy if it gives you strong benefits.
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>>171079419
>/gsg/ harasses HPM to death
>/gsg/ goes to shit and dies as a result

Just like the frog and the scorpion.
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hey
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>>171080056
np mate, hope you have an excellent night
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>>171080378
well actually I was just memeing around since others were saying "thanks" to random things but I was paying attention to what you were doing anyway
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>>171080405
np mate, hope you have a wonder evening anyway :)
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Is there any use to having the pope's opinion at 100? Any use at all?
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Considering buying Darkest Hour. I've never played a grand strategy game before, but I think I might enjoy it. What are good resources to learn how to play?
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>>171079954
Just make him your bitch.
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>>171081591
He's way less likely to excommunicate you, way more likely to grant excommunications you request, way more likely to offer favors like free money or invasion requests, and he's more tolerant of you having royal investiture of bishops.

So not really, no.
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This just came out of nowhere.

Last time I looked the Hungarians had a regent while the King was growing up so wtf happened to the boy?
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>>171082579
I don't actually know of any resources. I'm sure there are mechanics videos on youtube which might help you out, but I didn't need any to learn. It might actually help you if you don't search, because in my experience DH can be pretty easy, and as much as /gsg/ might try to deny it at times most of the fun of these games comes from the persistent risk of failure. Rushing in and getting your shit kicked a couple times would be fun.

>>171083471
The boy died while the regent was still ruling, so after an interregnum you got the PU.
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>>171083471
nvm it tells you a day later. He 'died suddenly'. Just went from 'nowhere near the list' to 3rd Great Power though.
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>>171083573
>The boy died while the regent was still ruling, so after an interregnum you got the PU.

I got a free PU from Bohemia as well. I see now why there is an achievement for having 6 at once as Austria because this is fucking insane.
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>>171083780
you should have no problem ending the reformation early senpai
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>>171084038
I think it might be more of a hindrance. I'm 3rd Great Power but I don't get any more money than before and I have the same development, really.

Playing as The Emperor is fun though. It's like CK2 lite.
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>>171083780
>I got a free PU from Bohemia as well.
By mission or just because their ruler died? The latter does happen sometimes as Bohemia but in my experience it's pretty rare.

Yeah though, if you've got 2 PUs you should just go crazy. Maybe not too crazy, but for sure keep Italy from leaving the HRE and put down all those bitch princes whenever they talk shit.
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make your move
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What's the difference between world wars and great wars?
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>>171084305
Game is Vicky 2 HPM by the way
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>>171084305
>>171084369
a WORLD war is one that happens in the WORLD, like on EARTH
a GREAT war is a war that happens over the span of MULTIPLE WORLDS, aka stellaris

therefore wrong general bucko sorry but i had to report you
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>>171084287
A guy at work told me that if Burgundy is losing a war badly there's a % chance you can get them as a PU too. My goal is to keep Italy in the Empire but now that I have an obscene army I might do a humiliate war on them to see if I can force that. At the very least I can get them to release someone up in the north.

The thing is though, Savoy just annexed Montferrat and that sort of stuff really grips my shit. Does the first reform give me a Causus Belli against them for doing that? That first reform is slipping further and further away too.
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Which nation has the best national ideas for controlling trade? Venice?
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>>171084305
>>171084369
No difference, they're interchangeable terms. The game usually refers to them as great wars, though.

>>171084608
>A guy at work told me that if Burgundy is losing a war badly there's a % chance you can get them as a PU too.
Not quite. Every time Burgundy is at war, with an increased chance if they're losing poorly, there's a chance that an event will fire where their king and his heir dies. If that event fires Burgundy gets split between France and the Emperor. So while it's definitely a good thing for you, keep in mind that it'll also make France stronger. Granted you can take France with two PUs, but that's for now; late-game, and with other allies, France is monstrous. Keeping them happy might be a good idea. Alternatively, as soon as you can warring them for any Imperial territory they hold and trying to keep them impotent is the other (albeit much more costly) option.

>Does the first reform give me a Causus Belli against them for doing that?
You should get a CB against any prince that annexes another prince (so long as the annexing power doesn't have a core on the territory, I think) whether you have the first reform or not, unless they changed that. But if they did change it I assume that the first reform will unlock that CB, yes. It also allows you to declare war for any Imperial province held by a non-Imperial power.

>That first reform is slipping further and further away too.
Why? This early your authority should be growing pretty fast. Only around the period of the Reformation does IA get dicey. Ideally you should have two reforms passed before the Reformation even happens.
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>>171084956
And why do Great Wars give you less infamy than normal wars?
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>>171084956
>warring them for any Imperial territory

My other plan in the game is to rez as many dead nations as possible (something that the PU with Hungary has spoiled because I was going to bring back Zagreb and Nitria) and France has loads of those in the south.

>You should get a CB against any prince that annexes another prince

Nah, no CB against Savoy. Montserrat started the game as his vassal I'm sure of it. Maybe that is why. Maybe the same with Silesia as well who starts as Bohemia's vassal.

>This early your authority should be growing pretty fast.

It chugs along nicely when I'm at peace but the internal wars annoy me. Right now Alsace (the vassal of Provence) is excommunicated so Baden and Burgundy have attacked them (and, funnily enough, Burgundy is losing). I've got bags of time before my truce timers with Venice and Rome are up so I might just jump in, smack Provence and see if I can get Alsace back.
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>>171085242
Not Alsace, Lorraine, sorry.
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>>171085234
To represent the amount of territory that was up for grabs, and the concept of total war which dehumanized the enemy and encouraged propaganda which advocated for the destruction of their states. It also costs less WS to enforce in Great Wars, because the wars are harder and historically the border shifts were so tremendous.

>>171085242
>My other plan in the game is to rez as many dead nations as possible
I'd say to only do that if you can create a very strong, singular vassal state in the south. And ideally you'd want to take a bit of territory, core it, add it to the HRE, then release the vassal there so they're an Imperial prince, since that'll increase the amount of votes you get in the Diet, as well as IA growth (and it'll mean they're annexed for free once you become the HRE).

>Montserrat started the game as his vassal I'm sure of it. Maybe that is why.
Diploannexing might not do it. Might also be because there was a Savoyard core there (not sure if there was, just a possibility).

>It chugs along nicely when I'm at peace but the internal wars annoy me.
As they should. You need to maintain preeminent power and a large number of princes if you have any hope of centralizing, much less winning the Thirty Years' War.

Do whatever you can to keep that IA growing and keep the number of princes high, so long as it doesn't disastrously trash your manpower to do so.
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tliquor
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>>171084802
what part of the world do you want to play lad ?
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>>171085567
Yeah, I've declared on Lorraine as a pretext to fucking over Provence and getting them to release that vassal. Also, yeah, that was my whole intent behind rezzing as many dead nations as possible.

Another question though to do with the image. If I use some excess dip to develop the gold mine will the Clergy influence drop?
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>>171085740
>If I use some excess dip to develop the gold mine will the Clergy influence drop?
I don't know where you'd be developing it, but provided it's in a province which the Clergy doesn't control, yes. But the change will be slight--maybe enough to take them below 80%, but it might take several increases to do so. Also, keep in mind that increasing the production value of gold-producing provinces above 10 runs the risk of their running out, so don't improve them higher than that.

Another thing I remembered--I think the timer for the event where Burgundy's king can die ends at around 1490, so beating them up as frequently as possible in the meantime is a very good idea. You want to encourage their king to die so you can get that land.
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>>171085567
Oh, that's a nice choice, how can I get more jingoism? By winning battles right?
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>>171085931
Thanks for the answers m8. I knew I would be fishing for PUs (it hasn't worked out well though. The infertile Henry VI got booted out in the War of the Roses and Castile got PUd by Aragon instead of me which I didn't account for, had to read up on how the inheritance system works) so I went for a diplo focus and now I just have too much of it.

The Burgundy thing I'm not too fussed about after taking in Bohemia and Hungary. I'll be getting that land back regardless but before 1490 is probably not going to happen since I set the Austrian aim for the Shadow Kingdom.

Declaring on the excommunicated Lorraine means I get to slap Provence, their Overlord but they're allied to Savoy so if things work out fine I'll be able to get a release on Montferrat anyway.
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>>171086123
No, jingoism is tied to events, POP preferences (so basically if they support political movements which support jingoism they might become more jingoist) and revanchism, so how many cores of your nation aren't under your control. I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting, but that's the gist. It's actually relatively hard to generate more jingoism without spamming elections and choosing all the various event options which encourage jingoism.

>>171086187
No problem. I would still try to get the Burgundian Inheritance event anyway, though--you get all the land for free with absolutely no aggressive expansion, and it comes pre-cored. That's a lot of admin points saved, especially for the rich low countries.
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>>171086357
Alright, I always choose the reactionary party because of that, the problem is I am Germany and Britain stopped being my ally, but he cant get other GP allies so when I go to war agaisnt him it doesnt become a great war, should I just wait for a crisis to start or what? The year is 1899
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>>171086662
Wait for a crisis or wait for them to ally someone else. In time they will and you'll be able to get a great war out of it.
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>>171086773
Yeah, I made the Axis and befriended the USA, they will be good if Britain allies France and Russia
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>playing Hearts of Iron 4
>France change from Commie to Fascist
>Declare war on Fascist france
>Taking territory returns it to commie france
>I'm also at war with Commie france
>They capitulated
>Can't push through france since all I can do I take border territories, they convert to commie france and I lose all my organisation

What the fuck, what am I meant to do to take their land?
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>>171083471
Event I beleive.

If Ladislaus ascends with no heir, Hungary can choose between a PU under a Hapsburg nation or crowning Hunyadi King.
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>>171086357
>I would still try to get the Burgundian Inheritance event anyway
I sort of planned my way to 1500 thinking that I wouldn't have the resources to take North Italy and wage a war on the low countries but - truce timers permitting - I might be able to squeeze something like that out. Thanks for all your help m8.
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>>171085589
upvoted. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar
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>>171087674
>They won't accept peace
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is this the only (((redpilled))) way to govern nation?
also is latin empire w&b?
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>>171088624
yes and yes
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>>171088624
>also is latin empire w&b?

Absolutely, Byzaredditors need to be purged.
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>>171088624
>latin empire
time to fucking kill yourself
>>171088690
helloooooo (((enrico)))
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Is Japan the only one capable of annexing Korea through a decision or event?
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>conquer scotland as norse
>to my delight notice that scottish culture has appeared
>however, the courtiers that receive the lands do not turn scottish over the time, staying Norse

How to fix? Also had same problem in Normandy when I conquered it. Had to off the new Norse land owners and give the land to Norman courtiers that appeared from somewhere. Also planning on away England to Norman vassals so that they'll become English.

Also, the only Scottish courtiers in the existence are a part of a mercenary band, nobody accepts an invitation to the court because I'm false religion. How can I make Scotland Scottish?
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>>171088789
no the middle eastern holy republic of bumfuckistan can also annex them
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>>171088761
t. Homonikus Fagexios

1204 best year of my life
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>>171082579

Don't really know about any good resources, just play the shitty tutorial anyway and start of as a mediocre Allied nation (Canada is a good choice). In this way you can learn the basics of research, production, tech, combat etc (remember to auto-trade and auto-spy). The biggest advantage of playing a nation like Canada is the ability to just fuck around and assist the French in 1940 and the UK in Africa. I'd advise you to cheat 'nofog' your first playthrough, to actually expierence what is going on military-wise.
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>>171088965
t. Mehmet Dandolo Shekelbergerstein von Habsburg
I'm glad Constantinople is in Catholic hands now oh wait...
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>>171089037
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>>171088624
Full Francocratia Soon
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>>171088871
CK2? If nobody will come to your court you're fucked or you have to cheat to get them to your court.
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>>171088761
Leave Enrico alone he promised the Pope his fleet even though it would lose him 30 ducats a month because they can't protect trade in Venice trade node. Pope said Crusaders would give him 30 ducats to make up for it but they only gave him 9 so he had unrest at 12.1 and would have had 30 stack of rebels because he was going tall.

It wasn't Enrico's fault it was Pope.
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>>171089404

Well shit.
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>>171084305
in great wars the good guys win
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>>171089540
Is this for a Scottish Retinue? You might just have to have a slightly sub-optimal one. It's no big deal m8.
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where did the krauts even come from?
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>>171089512
thanks
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>>171089638

No, I just want a Scotland with Scottish vassals and England with English vassals. Trying to create historical borders with proper cultures.
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>>171090028
>Trying to create historical borders with proper cultures.

A historical scenario close to yours would be The Danes taking half of England. They didn't care for the local culture at all and made sure that there were no locals in power.

William the Bastard 200 years later took this a step further and had all nobles purged and replaced pretty fast.

I get what you're trying to do but I see why the game is doing what it is doing too.
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>>171075082
Nearly all the vikings are easy mode just raid like a madman, venice is the perfect target. wouldnt know about islamists hevnt played them properly
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>>171075903
Do it with gotland its more challenging than it seems although that might be because i got event chained bad
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>>171088690
Why liking the Byzantine Empire is Reddit?
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>>171076384
You cant land your dynasty, which is this game all about.
Also catholic and fraticelli are better when you make their popes yes men.
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>>171085671
The Mediterranean. I just want to do comfy trade
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>latin empire is named empire of romania in MT
lame
i also expected white colour instead of red
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Tell me about cavalry divisions,are they useful?
They seem to be a budget version of the Motorized infantry.
Also,are Armor brigades pointless if I'm fighting against mainly infantry?
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anyone here formed byzantium in ViC 2
i did it once with alot of cheats
anyone?
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Whats the best game to play World Police in? Is HoI4 any good for that sorta stuff? I pirated it on launch and only played like 1 game so I haven't really got any idea how the game plays currently.
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>>171090948
Mamluks have the best trade ideas in the Mediterranean
I'd suggest converting to Coptic if you do choose them
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>>171091724
do you get new unique ideas, or have to carry over the ones from The Knights ??
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>>171092128
i think im going to make myself a mod that makes it latin empire instead of """"empire of romania""" and changes colour to white
ideas weren't included unfortunately
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>>171093071
start quant
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How do I get good at the military aspect of CK2?

I keep losing battles against inferior opponents, the only way I ever win a war is if I'm a kingdom and conquer some two province pleb

I upgrade my castle so that I have more guys, I use the best commanders I have and try to look at their traits so that a guy with "flanker" goes on the sides and whatnot

Still, I keep losing
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>>171093207
Wish I could help you. In Arumba's videos he just says "have more men lol"
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>>171093207
Are you using retinues? Are you a pagan?
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What country do you lads intend to unite China with first after this upcoming dlc?
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>>171093476
NIPPON
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>>171093349
I'm a feudal pagan and not using retinues
Should I be using retinues a lot? They seem really expensive just for a couple more guys that stand around all the time

>>171093326
There has to become something more to it though, right? When Scandinavians come raiding I can beat their ass with an army a third their size because I have heavy infantry, but the "have more heavy infantry" rule doesn't seem to work
Also I feel like there is a lot of RNG, I won a battle, savescummed to test and then lost that same battle over and over again for no apparent reason, even putting in better commanders still resulted in a loss
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>>171093536
Max out your retinues.
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Finally, after all those years I managed to master the most important mechanic - seducing my sisters.
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>>171093717
>tfw your entire dynasty is dwarfs because you live on a small island and everyone is related anyways even if you didn't specifically try and seduce your closest relatives
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Does clicking 'next holding' when looking at the county hospital crash the game for anyone else? CK2 with all the DLC
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>>171093870
that's what you get for pirating ;)
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>>171093947
Sorry but I legitimately own the game.

Oh and forgot to mention that the game is unmodded.
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>>171075447
>>I did the tutorial like 3 times and I feel like they only tell you like 5% of the game.
its true
>>Every time I do a battle I lose, even if I make sure to have like quadruple the guys as my opponent.
appoint generals with high martial skill, without them you'll lose easily because your armies have no tactic giving them penalties to damage. contrary, low level general will be better than none, but will fuck up most of the tactics also losing. generally, look for 10+ martial skill generals
>>I don't understand any of the broader game mechanics.
if you're reading this tell what you dont understand exactly
>>Is there anything else I'm missing? Any other tutorials I need to read?
learn from experience, ask here and go to wiki, your best sources. CK2 is not really hard, its just its initial steep learning curve

Now, continuing my Prussia game, somehow ulgy trait got into my gene pool which really sucks given it is mostly genius, attractive, quick every second child or so, have to endure it though. Still looking to take Czluchow from Mecklenburg and from Danzig's first merchant republic for that sweet dough.
Also HRE is Lollard
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>>171093784
What I was actually aspired to do is to cuckold all my fellow patricians so their wives would help my plots.

But I practiced on my lustful sisters. Ended up with six lovers.
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>>171093207
see
>>171094029
also forgot to add, technology also affects troop's damage but not that noticeably to lose battles with four time man advantage
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thats what im talking about i was shitting my pants because he's my single male offspring
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>>171094715
How do I get good at breeding children with nice traits?
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In HOI4 should you always be making only marines and mountaineers?

Aren't they strictly better than normal infantry division for the same cost?
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>>171094805
Look for wives with good traits, duh. Lustful women who are strong, quick or geniuses. It's not reliable, but it works.
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>>171094805
each character have DNA, which passes on to next generations in some form. simply, if you breed with geniuses, cuties etc, traits are kept in DNA which may or may not show up on your dynasty members thats why fucking with your family will sometimes produce inbreds, its hidden in DNA but will show up only if you do it with your dynasty member
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honestly im sick of waiting for meow&talex 2.0 what should I do
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2.0 when
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>>171095034
>>171095057
woah...
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neat
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I can't wait for literally redit 2.0 to learn how amazing Muslim Spain was.
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How can this shit hole be even worse than the last time i came here? (6 months ago)
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What would be a good time and place to play as some sort of Middle Eastern or Arab person?

I want to do something other than Northern pagan or Christendom, would Umayyad Spain be good?
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>>171095359
thanks
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>>171095407
Do you like being a giant blob?
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Where are Byzanon and AARanon
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>>171095536
I thought I'd be a smaller count type person
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>>171095593
I suppose you should look counts at the border with Christians for maximum amusement then.
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>>171088624
>i try to play the Knights and get my shit stomped by the Mamluks and coalitions
>this anon somehow gets most of Anatolia by 1457
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>>171095546
byzanon here
i haven't gone to sleep yet
its 11:33 am
save me
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>>171092678
>tfw garbage tier technology
but destroying byzantines and ottoshits was worth it
also any suggestions for latin empire nation colour?
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>>171091913
Will I be able to support a navy? The venicen ideas look like they really help navy-wise
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What exactly does a vassal represent in eu4?
In ck it is obvious: a king can have a duke as a vassal, a duke can have a count and so on and it represent feudal system of delegation of land management.
But in eu4 you can have a vassal that has higher rank than you and conquering land and vassalizing it are two separate things.
Is there some things in history that it is supposed to represent?
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If I'm a poor coloniser in EU4, should I not take Expansion ideas? Just use the two colonists I get and focus valuable regions?

What areas will I be able to nab up entirely with only two colonists?
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>>171095958
>But in eu4 you can have a vassal that has higher rank than you
yeah they shouldn't automatically be downgraded below overlord level
but then you have meme titular empires like trebizond
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>>171095923
Use the one in CK2
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>>171093651
Really? Max out?

I make about 15 coins per month, I believe I can get 1.3k retinues, that seems like it would be very expensive.

Should I prioritize heavy infantry and horses?
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>>171095958
vassalizing nation = making it dependant on your country and forcing them to pay a fee
conquering land = incorporating it into your country
also if nations start with vassals from their own culture like france it means that they are decentralized shitholes
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>>171096237
Retinue is almost free, except when refilling. But don't run your budget into negative.

What is your cultural retinue?
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How are you supposed to use paratroopers in Darkest Hour? I don't mean how they function mechanically, but what their strategic use is. I can't think of anything other than maybe very quickly occupying the victory points of a small country.
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>>171096324
>Retinue is almost free, except when refilling.
I had no idea, I feel silly

>What is your cultural retinue?
First I've heard of that, looking at the retinues I believe it's Baltic Warriors, 300 heavy infantry
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Is Britain the only one capable of forming South Africa in HPM?
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>>171096441
That's a pretty good retinue. I'd hire them.
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>>171096515
Thank you for being helpful anon

I'll hire them, a cavalry one and some archers, my retinue cap is at 2k right now
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Want to buy Europa Universalis IV , which dlc should I buy too?
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>>171091823
Cavalry is great especially when they become mechanized. Use cavalry brigades on them so they aren't slowed down.
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>>171096272
>conquering land = incorporating it into your country
But you still have a vassal managing it. Every province you have is your vassal.
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>>171096948
Then I fucked up because I gave them medium armored brigades.
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>>171096939
Only base game, pirate the DLCs.
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>>171096381
They're useful for assaulting overseas.
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>>171096939
All of them
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what the actual fuck is that color, is there anyway i can change it to proper blue? *pukes angrily*
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>>171097319
>autism asterisks

kill you're self
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>>171097376
*smites*
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>>171097376
>you're
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*warns u to report and ignore shitposting*
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What's a good way to establish the Latin Empire in Italy?

Where would the capital be?
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>>171097462
fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off cuck
t.eastern ROMAN empire pro
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>>171097462
R O M A
O
M
A
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>>171070806
based
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>>171097532
Who said Rome didn't still hold Constantinople?
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>>171097462
Ravenna
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>>171097532
>eastern ROMAN empire
You mean empire of greeks?
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>>171097462
form it with Greek Catholics desu
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>>171070806
thanks
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How to enjoy CK2 and EUIV?

Both interest me, but I only really like playing Vic 2
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>>171097610
>Ravenna
>Not Mediolanum
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>>171097709
Perhaps you're not into eugenics and map painting
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>>171097760
too far inland
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*blocks your path*
what do?
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>>171097927
Dude just fucking play as a Byzantine vassal in Naples and meme it as muh Magna Graecia or something idk
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>>171097827
Seems easier to become a fascist in Vic2 and genocide the turks desu
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>we became empire n shiet
>we still have these types of elections
based crusader state
first post decides who i elect
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>>171097982
>Naples

nasty, Ravenna is best
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>>171092951
Yes.
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>>171097760
More like Mediocre
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>>171098090
kys
Neapolis and Syrakousai NOT Mediolanum and Roma Ok? Praise Archimedes
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>>171097929
I wonder how they'd feel if they knew they risked their lives and died fighting fascism only for USA to fall to nazis 70 years later
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>>171098024
Le merchant's son
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>>171098261
But Hillary lost?
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>>171097462
The Roman Empire was not tied so much to Rome except maybe in the first centuries of it's existence.
The true roman spirit would be to use the best capital possible.
Rome is behind Constantinople and the Pope ruined it with Bishopes everywhere, so use that or keep your capital if you managed to make it better than both.
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>>171098261
Don't worry anon, Drumpf won't last 2 years
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>>171098261
Based Washington got 13 battle stars but suffered no losses.
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>>171098315
yeah i actually picked him since no one posted
5/4/4 pretty gud
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>mfw Lombardy won embargo war against my merchant republic, and I realized my posts were all elsewhere.
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>>171097462
>Where would the capital of a Latin Empire in Italy be?
>Where would he capital of an empire named after the ancient roman language be in Italy?

Maybe......Venice?
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>>171098923
>>171098384
>>171097610
>>171097462
West Rome's capitals were ancient Milan and Ravenna.

Both of those capitals allow you to have maximum kingdom vassals, on top of the Pope
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>>171098923
Alba Longa
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I'm confused about how personal unions in eu4 are created diplomatically. I had the same dynasty as Spain and claim throne active, but when the ruler died without an heir a noble ascended to the throne.

Is personal union formation based on a percent chance of some sort even if you are the only claimant and have the same ruling dynasty? They had a colonial nation and union with Portugal as greater member if this factors into this somehow.
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>>171098261
I wonder how they'd feel about fighting fascism only for their grandchildren to be accused of being fascist for believing what they did.
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Finally achieving my last goal for this run - creating Danzig merchant republic, im content with this run, and even though i could finish it now its pretty fun so far. Now to embargo Gotland
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>>171098261
+1 agree
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Well then. Game crashed yesterday, had to redo my whole OOB and ship some assholes to Europe and South Korea again. There aren't a whole lot of Soviets for some reason, not sure where they're hiding but I guess I'll find out. They're already mobilized so no surprise shit and low org, let's hope the supply system won't fuck my asshole due to foreign territory.
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>>171099592
>city is named danzig
>sea or whatever is named gdansk
make up your mind, paradox
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>>171099759
ye
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>>171099824
thanks (this is not a meme)
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>>171099817
im sorry i renamed it danzigshould i rename it, i really like it
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>>171099965
fuck off
>>>/pol/
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>>171095989
>If I'm a poor coloniser in EU4, should I not take Expansion ideas?
Do you mean you are bad at it or you're in a bad location or what?

Depending on how good your economy is, 2 is more than enough. Trying to nab entire regions isn't how I do it. Put them next to other colonies for a good CB.
>>
anyone got a download for the last unHMM? all the megas in the pastebin are ded
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>>171100029
?????????????????????
what did you mean by this
>>
What are fun goals for HPM France?
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>>171100164
>renaming the ancient POLISH city of Gdánsk to the genocidal nazi teutonic name of Danzig
>not /pol/
Nice try adolf
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>>171100251
its just history dude

like, lol
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>>171077212
you sound like a complete retard. CK2 isn't complex at all. Just play the game normally figuring shit out and if your about to lose than just use console commands to cheat.
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>>171100180
Western Roman Empire
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>try new dlc for ck2
>have fun with Satan
>get bored later
>realize how broken it is
>other ones are meh
>can't use alchemy for anything worthwhile

Well that was short lived.
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>>171100251
i'm not 100% sure, but wasn't gdansk originally founded by geatish settlers ?
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Wat
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>>171100471
shut the fuck up revisionist
kurwaaaa
Gdansk not Danzig
Wroclaw not Breslau
Szczecin not Stettin
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>>171100251
see
>>171100336
even though Danzig is not a proper name for Old Prussian culture who are not fucking germans its better than Gdansk, which is what Poles and Wendes call it. I renamed it because it tickles my autism
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What would you call a military block consisting of:
>The American Union State
>The Combined Syndicates of America
and
>Apartheid South Africa
?
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>>171100921
bunch of niggers
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>>171100921
Why would the AUS and the CSA team up?
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>>171099656
What is this?
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>>171101087
They teamed up and finished off the Pacific states.
But they fail to capture D.C. constantly so the war is still going on.
CSA had a leader change so I presume that is the reason.
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>>171100482
MEME
E
M
E
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>>171101193
>Hellenic is pagan
>can become the emperor of China in the new DLC
wew
time for Macedonia to go all the way
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>>171101192
>vehemently opposed ideolgical enemies teamed up to beat a bunch of irrelevant surfer dudes
Is it time to removed DH from the OP?
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>>171101362
One is CSA is Totalist on this case.
Not so different
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>>171101356
Make sure your grandmasters/kings start speaking Greek
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>>171073936
I'm not your pal, guy
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>>171089715
what game is this?
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>>171101440
>there is no difference between fascism and stalinism
hey i agree with you my dood but the horseshoe theory aint so popular
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>>171101474
Hearts of Iron 4
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>>171101474
football manager
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>>171097016
>wasting ic as a country that doesn't have any
>slowing your units to a crawl in terrain that needs all the speed bonuses it can get
>building the fastest units with the slowest attachments
What the fuck is your problem?
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Brits in Yugoslavia have been useless but at least my plan of trapping the Soviets in Central Europe has worked.
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>>171101474
Life is Strange
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>>171101564
>horseshoe theory
>theory

buddy
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>>171101745
I thought tanks were supposed to be fast OK.
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>>171101764
what game is this?
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>>171101939
Looks like HPM
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>>171101939
probably tylo be chillin
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>>171101939
Modded Minecraft
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>>171101794
Leftists get pretty butthurt when you point out that Stalin was nationalist and killed Jews, whilst shipping non slavs to Siberia.

>>171101812
>MEDIUM armour
>MEDIUM
Light armour is fast, anything else is just a fort on wheels.
>>
Anyone have the maps of proper grossness in Vicky?
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_nationalism
what the fuck
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>>171101764
Answer me, faggot. >>171101186
August storm mod?
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>>171102114
1/9
>>
HPM GUY DEAD
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>>171102061
I will try to keep that in mind.
The logic was that I will crush the germans with quality instead of quantity since I can't afford it.
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>>171101474
Starcraft 2 custom games
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>>171102189
2/9
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>>171102189
What colour should Anglo-France be?
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>>171102427
Royal Purple
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>>171102372
3/9
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>>171101812
I don't remember how it works in DH, been a while, but in HoI3 Medium and Heavy Armor gets faster with engine upgrades and if you don't upgrade the armor itself you also get faster tanks due to less weight. There is this nice motorized/mechanized bonus if you got the correct composition as well.
>>
Is anyone else getting crashes in CK2 when using the title finder? Some titles seem to result in a CTD, I can't search for anything that starts with the letter i for example
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>>171102427
115 38 134
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>>171102534
4/9
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>>171102184
Fox&Lion, faggot. There isn't anything in those screenshots that's Fox&Lion exclusive though so I don't know what you mean.
>>
Games don't make me have fun anymore. I think it's time to end my life
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>>171102686
5/9
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>>171102832
Anyone want to make one of these for the USA, CSA, or Mexico?
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>>171102832
6/9
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>>171102819
I had that real bad one time, I switched to watching a lot of movies for maybe a month or so and I was back @ it

Resist the impulse to buy a new game, I had the strong desire to buy an expensive new game because I thought that would make the feeling go away but let me tell ya it sure doesn't
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>>171102832
>>171102924
Forgot to ask for a Byzzy one
>>171102968
That takes care of Mexico
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>>171102832
Disgusting
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>>171102968
7/9

>>171103017
I don't think he ever did any for those
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>>171103081
you triggered crab fisher?
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>>171103132
8/9
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>>171103285
9/9 I think this one might have been redone at some point but I don't have it
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>>171076280
No one wants to spoonfeed you, retard. If you won't try things yourself, just leave.
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>>171103285
>not including New Inverness
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>>171103446
where's gross albania
>>
>>171102534
Where's the one with Italian Korea?
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glorious absolute monarchy in 13th century, no vassals means everything is in my grasp. feels fantastic
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>>171102832
>No persia puppet
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>>171104078
nice
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>>171103446
Is this some kind of joke?
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>>171098261
Respectfully disagree
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>>171104473
Pretty much, it misses grucistan and makedonia.
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>>171103446
Can you do gross Chile?
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>when your missionaries actually get shit done
now if only those damn finns would stop killing my priests.
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Germany sucks
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>>171106159
>no Sicily
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>>171106159
E U R A S I A
U
R
A
S
I
A
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Not based.
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>>171106159
>no Sicily
>no Kyushu or Shikoku
>no Taiwan or Hainan
>no Philippines
>no Andaman islands
>no Crete, Malta, or Aegean islands
>no Tunisia
>no Denmark or Gotland
>Entire world is one huge puppet that would immediately become a GP and break away
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>>171106548
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>>171106548
i get shat on
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>its another umayyads blob into france episode
I fucking hate the charliememe start
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>>171107089
>not Islamifying Europe before the 11th century

european philosophy would have created its own sect of Islam anyway
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>>171107089
Just wait crusade
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>>171107494
>tfw we'll never know what this sect would look like
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>>171107509
All 3 crusades failed. You can imagine why.
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>>171107728
would be a good creative exercise

maybe i'll ask my Islamist Turk friend to brainstorm with me
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>>171107728
If you're not too triggered by literature to read books, there's one with the premise "what if 99.9% of white people died in 1399" that deals with, among other things, Andalusian muslims resettling western Europe and developing a new sect and ideology there.
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>>171108141
what a retarded concept

i'd prefer to read about the world where all jews died
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>check religion map
>see this
also fuck these religious minorities
i was mono catholic state and then out of sudden 70% of my provinces are either sunni, protestant or orthodox
eternal fight with corruption, loans and shit tech continues. Honestly im tempted to convert to calvinism for shekels which would help to deal with these isusues.
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>>171108141
>"what if 99.9% of white people died in 1399"
Kek
The idea seems pretty interesting though, I'll take a look at it.
>>
>>171108141
yeah but the idea i was having is "What if Islam displaced Christianity in Europe and the native Europeans developed Islam until it diverged from their Arab neighbours", so that European culture would have influenced religious thought instead of Andalusians settling the continent.
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>>171108236
It's actually "what if no one in Europe was immune to the Black Plague"

I phrased it that way to trigger you though. You're welcome.
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>>171069794
>aurora and DH removed from infopic
>HoI4 mods removed from OP
>no retarded double report and ignore message
Is this the greatest thread in /gsg/ history?
>>
>>171107820
I'm curious, how would muslims name a caliphate or sultunat of Europr?
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>>171108487
Al Andalus
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>>171108382
Sounds more interresting IMO
>>
>>171108487
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland :^)
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>>171108487
germany
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>>171103446
Thanks anon
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>>171108318
Map related
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Why am I so fucking terrible at CK2?
I just don't fucking get it how do I keep losing

and all the videos of people playing well I can watch are 100 years old and completely outdated
fuck you Johan
>>
>>171108487
Great Sweden
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>>171108463
>I phrased it that way to trigger you though. You're welcome.
This is the most >>>/r/paradoxplaza post ever.
Don't just take my word for it though, let's check the items off the list individually.

>passive aggressive
>smugness
>"intellectual" anti-racism
>disdain for anyone white, cis, or male
>promoting Islam to appear tolerant, despite Islam being the least tolerant mainstream ideology of the modern world
>acting morally superior for holding these abysmal "personal" "opinions"
>getting all "your" opinions from the mainstream media and your university professor
I'm sure I missed a few though.
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>>171108936
literally just BLOCS

boring
>>
>>171108936
>Skandistan
That book was more redpilled than I thought
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>>171109046
Your hugbox is this way >>>/pol/
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>>171109046
>taking the bait
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>>171108943
Just marry into claims, bro! Works for me ;)
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>>171109179
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>171109237
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>>171108292
>produgal
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>>171109263
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How many redditors do you think actually clicked the >>>/r/paradoxplaza link, expecting it to take them to reddit, only to be taken to adult requests?
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>>171109237
Harold Godwinson didn't marry for claims though..
>>
>>171108292
Looks fine apart from proddie Iberia
>>
>>171109263
>I'll fit in if I keep saying it
It's not my problem if you can't handle the banter, but this is just sad.
>>
>>171109305
Fuck off. Acting like you fucking know how to spell prodigal without googling it, so what, he made a fucking mistake, have you literally never fucked up once in your entire life you fucking bastard?
>>
>>171109626
>>>/r/crusadercucks
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>>171109626
>handle the banter xDxD
It's like I'm really on reddit!
>>
>>171109535
That's Henry II.

Married Eleanor of Aquitaine - maybe he didn't exactly marry her for the Duke title but it was hard for me to think of an example off the top of my head.
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>>171109237
>be petty king of wessex
>marry princess of cornwall
>kid inherits claim
>same rank, prss claim anyway
>kid (and heir) becomes pretty king of cornwall
>kill self and inherit Wessex and Cornwall
man ck2 can feel videogamey at times
>>
>>171109949
>not getting 20+ intrigue, marrying the third daughter of the king of France and then killing every possible claimant before the son of the third daughter of the King of France so you inherit
There should really be a legitimacy mechanic in CK2, where king to first born son gives 100% and anything else gives varying levels.
>>
>>171040741
You fucking mong that is clearly a mercenary hired from the surviving roman garrison in brittania, white piggu go home
>>
>>171110814
Because they're reactionaries and lack a legitimate political ideology
>>
>>171111071
>reactionaries
National socialism is the most revolutionary ideology there is, everything else is just a different shade of Judaism.
>>
>>171111148
oh boy
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>>171110719
>white piggu go home
Reminds me of the porn I consume.
>>
>>171103285
t. 1/16th Scottish-American
We voted as a union to leave the EU, get over it.
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>>171110814
>>>/r/eddit
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>>171111635
>>>/pol/
>>
>>171111635
>implying animefags wouldn't be the first to be gassed
>>
>>171111665
/gsg/ is Greater /pol/
>>
>>171111148
Ethnic nationalism is fundamentally based on monarchism. The only widely accepted answers to the question "Who is white?" (ignoring meme answers like "nobody but swedes and turks") descend from who was represented in European nobility.
National Socialists in particular have a silly obsession with the middle ages (which is why you are here) that betrays the backwards, reactionary truth of their "revolutionary" ideology.
>>
>>171111891
Christchan isn't anime, faggot.
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>>171111743
>>171111891
>>>/s/teamcordplaza
>>
>>171111918
>(which is why you are here)
I'm here for Victoria tho
>>
>>171111918
>Ethnic nationalism is fundamentally based on monarchism.
What a retarded fucking notion. Monarchism, where foreigners ruled over peasants is the antithesis of national socialism.
>>
>>171112143
thanks
>>
>>171112143
>geopolitical discussion isn't welcome in /gsg/
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>
>>171112143
Glad you like it senpai
>>
>>171112143
all me
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>>171112504
>>>/lgbt/
>>
>>171108464
>Is this the greatest thread in /gsg/ history?

hmmm....
>>
>>171112809
>Racial categorizations don't make sense in the peasant substrate where peoples blend together
What the hell are you talking about? You mean in Northern Europe, where literally everyone was white, the people were blandaing upp? With literally who? Atleast try to have some consistency to your nonsense.

>An ideology that actually achieves what National Socialism aspires to would ignore the false racial and ethnic divisions imposed on the people by kings and princes in favor of the needs of the people themselves
The need of the people is not to be forced into multi-racial hell holes solely for Progress™.
>>
Where's Yohan when we need him?
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What would happen to the republic if all possible successors are children?
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>>171113976
It would be extremely Anarchist.
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>>171111918
>The only widely accepted answers to the question "Who is white?"
Irrelevant question
>>
>>171113294
>With literally who
With each other obviously. What's the difference between a Dane and a German? Just the kings and princes that ruled their land historically.
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>>171114109
>What's the difference between a Dane and a German?
The language for starters?
>>
>>171113976
>not joining a secret society

lmaooo
>>
>>171113976
Don't try it
>>
>>171114109
>What's the difference between a Dane and a German?
Language, culture, mixtures of haplogroups
>>
>>171114213
And how did that come to be?
I'm not going to give you any more free education though.
>>
>>171114228
I don't have Monks and Mystics yet.
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>>171114109
>What's the difference between a Dane and a German?
Very little, ethnically. It's not even race mixing. Besides, if this is to prove that the nobility didn't mix then that's even more retarded as Danish, English, German, Russian, and Greek nobility mixed so much they're all one big family.
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>>171114363
>Danish, English, German, Russian, and Greek nobility mixed so much they're all one big family.
That would be the "white" family. Whereas ethnicities that European nobility didn't mix with are the ones that are considered non-white today.
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>>171114537
>slavs are considered white
Come on, lad, you know for a fact that isn't the case.
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>>171114689
The last time someone posted one of these they got doxxed, just a warning.
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>>171114689
>le ulm maymay
>>>/r/paradoxplaza

still gave me giggle
>>
Should I create vassal republics as a norse merchant republic? I suppose I would earn more gold in taxes, but I'd have to compete for trade posts as well which makes me sceptical to hand out duchies to count tier vassals by the coast.
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>>171114785
Good thing I'm nowhere near interesting enough to get doxxed.
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>>171114643
Ignoring your meme definitions they are. Are they black, asian, melanesian, or west indian? No?
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Now when I am a Doge, I can do what I always wanted - bully little boys.
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>>171114643
/pol/tards also very often say so for Greeks and Italians too despite all the european history they like being about Greco-Romans wannabes.
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>>171114689
What about Jewish Khezaria creating Greater Israel?
>>
>>171114875
>>171114996
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OK, now all I need is to die within the next two years.
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>>171114996
Greco-Romans are Europeans, Germs are the non-euro ones.
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>>171115382
Get depressed, commit suicide.
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>>171115464
>Greco-Romans
You mean Turko-Arabs? :^)
>>
>>171115582
White is a meme term invented by Americans because they are mutts without ethnicities
>>
>>171115745
19th/20th century national chauvinism > 20th century/21st century pan-racialism
>>
>>171107820
Paradox does it again
>>
>>171100147
bump
>>
>Increase Council Power
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>>171116147
They need to buff decadence honestly. Muzzies don't really have any downsides.
>>
What is the closest religion to atheism?
>>
How to play as Greece without the Ottomans bothering my booty? England is a useless ally because they let me get occupied fully by the Ottomans and did nothing to stop it while they were playing around in the sandbox south of me, but I can't get anyone else to be my friend.
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>>171102480
>>171102639
Like this?
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>>171116604
>Americans
>white

pffffffffffffffffffaahahahhahahahah
>>
>>171116549
They'll get on it once they're done buffing the Ottomans in EU4.
>>
>>171116556
In CKII?

Any of them, while being cynical.
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>>171116556
Modern Satanism (I don't know if it's Church of Satan or what, but I mean the memey one for hipsters, not actual cult worship of satan) is literally a "religion" for atheists, created solely for atheists to use to troll Christians.

It's more or less reddit incarnate although at one time 4chan reflected its ideology rather well.
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>>171116707
It's just boring how muslims are always just ginormous blobs.
Can't play east africa any more either because tulunids or abbasids always invade it.
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>>171116604
>Subjugating Ireland, Brittany, and Wales, but not Scotland
>France blobbing into Belgium and Germany but not just going full Napoleonic borders
>Letting anyone else play in your private sandbox
>Papua New Guinnea, the most inhospitable, savagely peopled place on Earth
>Liberia exists even though the USA never did in this timeline
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Does anyone have a link to podcats laa exe for HOI3?
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>>171116761
>Church of Satan
Dark and edgy circlejerk.

I'm glad that I went from reading the plagiarized passages from the Satanic Bible to reading the originals in "Might is Right" and becoming a good ol' NS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5q3XeDz4JA
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>>171116816
what the fuck is an istanbul you stupid roach
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>>171117031
>>Subjugating Ireland, Brittany, and Wales, but not Scotland
Taking Scotland would make it too British, it's supposed to be Anglo-France.
>>France blobbing into Belgium and Germany but not just going full Napoleonic borders
Those are Rhine borders, Catalonia just looks bizarre, let alone Illyria.
>>Letting anyone else play in your private sandbox
B-but anything more would be taking land never owned by them
>>Papua New Guinnea, the most inhospitable, savagely peopled place on Earth
That's actually Scotland.
>>Liberia exists even though the USA never did in this timeline
f--fuck you..
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>>171116556
Check out the Creativity Movement, Pearce's Comostheism and if you want to be a filthy reactionary Comte's religious Positivism.
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>>171117168
It's in the archive
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>>171117285
Cosmotheism*
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>>171116816
>The roman empire conquered istanbul
It was called Byzantium then.

>Turks are Seljuks, therfore Seljuk Persians, therfore Persians, therfore Iranians, therfore Aryan.
This one checks out, but I don't see how you rectify it with
>ottomans were literally greeks
>this is why turks were romans
Are Turks Greeks or Aryans? It can't be both.

Also worth remembering that in the ancient near east there were tons of hellenized peoples who were called "Greeks" because they spoke Greek and embraced elements of Greek culture, but who we wouldn't consider related to, descended from, or part of the same ethnicity as the Hellenes themselves.
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>>171117170
>Dark and edgy circlejerk.
I don't agree with nazis any more than I do with Satanists, but yeah, it sure is that.
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*taxes your path*
wat do
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>>171116604
I don't know people here care so little about France, you are all gross germanium and/or roman empire.
Napoleon is cool too
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I've finally become so bored by all other games I play that I'm about to boot up EU4 again. Gonna finish my Brandenburg game in M&T and then I'll liberate my Persiaboo side and try and form Persia and restore ancient borders.

>>171118034
>taxes are theft
>paths are theft
I equip my Crossbow-15 and make hunt for government agents.
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>>171118034
Is it geeky that I find this sort of fusion of memes and history funny?
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>>171117905
Boyd Rice and Jack Donovan are bretty gud, tho. Both of them are former CoS members and Boyd Rice in particular was supposed to be LaVey's heir.

https://mesikammen.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/church-of-satan-is-dead/
http://www.boydrice.com/news.html
@second link CTRL F To whom it may concern,
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>>171074410
>>171075762
>>171076491
>>171077086

What's this mod??
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>>171118228
>>taxes are theft
>>paths are theft
>*pays toll road*
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>>171117283
You took all the Celtic clay though. If you want Anglo-France with independent Scotland I think there should be a Celtic union state including Brittany and Wales for the sake of balance of power.

I think France+Catalonia is aesthetic as fuck. It's reminiscent of the cédille (hooked c) as in "français."

The other shit you already know you need to fix.
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>>171118034
That's a big fleet.
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>>171069794
Posting in here as an HoI2/Arsenal of Democracy player to see if HoI4 is worth playing, i.e. not broken and bugged. ...is it lads?
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>>171118192
It's mostly because they wish they were nazis and think they have to "cuck" France to retaliate for Germany getting "cucked" by the world wars.

There used to be Napoleaboos around here but they are keeping quiet these days.
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>>171118235
Sort of but it's ok, you're a geek among autists.
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>>171118663
>see if HoI4 is worth playing
nah, it's not
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>>171118531
>*raises a banner of 15 lances behind you*
Heh. Naught unchivalrous, goode Sir.
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>>171118858
Really? I assumed it was kinda messed up at the launch, but it's still not worth it? What gives?
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>>171118753
We're still here anon.
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>>171118034
Are the advantages I get from paying your taxes worth it?
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If I make Burgundy release Luxembourg will it auto join HRE
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>>171118605
4 byzantium.
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>>171119204
yeah
just use hre map mode
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>>171117313
sorry im a faggot but i dont see it ;^(
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>>171118753
>>171119059
tfw proud German and still enjoy Napooboos.

The past is the past, the French are our brothers, and we are theirs. Let none stand between us.
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*does the liquor rally call*
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>>171119417
germans have 0 rights to hate on napoelon
he liberated you from being cucked by absolutism
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>>171119417
get back to prepping abdul, cuckman
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>>171118521
Please lads!
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>>171119417
>How could I write songs of hatred when I felt no hate? And, between ourselves, I never hated the French, although I thanked God when we were rid of them. How could I, to whom the only significant things are civilization [Kultur] and barbarism, hate a nation which is among the most cultivated in the world, and to which I owe a great part of my own culture? In any case this business of hatred between nations is a curious thing. You will always find it more powerful and barbarous on the lowest levels of civilization. But there exists a level at which it wholly disappears, and where one stands, so to speak, above the nations, and feels the weal or woe of a neighboring people as though it were one's own.
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whoa whao am I being walked towards right now
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>>171119510
And the West of us got cucked by Napoopans pseudo-absolutism instead.
And when we kicked the French out, normal absolutism just re-appeared.

We liberated ourselves from being cucked by absolutism in 1848.

>>171119709
fucking BASED
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>>171119482
Could I get a discord invite Cobrah almighty?
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>>171120335
"no"
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>>171120413
please
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>>171120489
Anyone got screenshots of ridiculous coalitions in EU4?
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>>171120335
Please remember to make use of the vocative comma. Thank you.
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>>171120908
whats that
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>>171120961
That which separates us from the barbarians
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>>171119637
M&T
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are blogposters necessary evil to keep this general alive?
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Historically, did "tribal" people really became republics?
That's what these slavs near Scandinavia seems to imply (depending on the start date, some of the tribals become a republic/merchand republic) but I'm not sure if they are actually real.
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>>171122452
Is it an Anglo or a French centric union?
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>>171122554
Anglo-Norman Master Race
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>>171122554
It's like Canada, neither, but the French still want independence because they're cunts.
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>>171122452
What's the point of not having Scotland?
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>>171122867
That would make it too Britain centric and shift the power to the English.
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>>171122201
>novgorod
Yes.
But then Ivan came and massacred them.
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>>171122452
And here's how close I am to achieving that in EU4. It's 1715, think I can still do it, laddos?
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So I know with the new Unholy Impregnation in CK2 there's a 50/50 chance of the resultant kid actually being a demon child, but how do you tell? I currently have 6 kids from Unholy Impregnation that range from 6-12 years old but have yet to get any events relating to the whole demon child chain.
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RIP British India army
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>>171122968
but with the way you make it, the continentals hold the most power by a large margin
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>>171122792
So Anglo-French?
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>>171079693
Some nations tend to have a regular surplus of monarch points (Milan, Prussia, Venice, Portugal among others), so they can afford policies early on without it crippling their development, in most other cases I usually find the cost of policies better paid with ducats in the form of more powerful advisors.
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>>171124019
Australia, North America and South Africa are English colonies.
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>>171072870
Yeah put the HoI4 mods back in the OP
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>>171123619
>2
>9
>1
Actually pretty impressed post map

Which borders gee es gee
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>>171124510
All of Rhine
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>>171123368
Are you not doing your updates anymore m8
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>>171124605
I'm going for comfy industry though. That's too blobby, the 3 states I have now have a fuckton of coal, good iron and then wood and sulfur. I just want coastline
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UK industrial score dropped by 500 in 10 days and now this

wtf is happening there
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>>171072870
This. Let people talk about Stellaris as well
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>>171072870
I agree.
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>>171125513
Stellaris discussion was never not allowed, people just don't want to talk about it cause it sucks
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>>171125490
J U S T
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>>171118192
Nobody likes France. There is no reason to like France.
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>>171125701
can we talk about Game of Thrones: Genesis
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>>171125873
t. butthurt anglo
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>>171125873
I love France. They are responsible for all the culture in the world that matters.
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>>171125873
Left bank soon, germteen.
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>>171126042
What culture does France have?
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>>171126042
Also responsbile for a united germany the bane of peace in europe
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>>171126306
All of yours is French unless you are from China or some bits of Africa.
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>>171126345
>Also responsbile for a united germany
Actually that would be Russia and their germanboo tsars
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Britain's influence now spreads from the Falklands in the South Atlantic to Burma in the east, but this is not enough for the Imperial parliament, demands grow for a port in the Orient, to extend our influence even further until no area is safe from our perfidious hands. War is declared with China and after a brief naval engagement troops are landed in the capital of the Xi state, to secure ourselves a port in this vast market.

>>171124838
no fuck off
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>>171126382
I'm an American and thus mostly a fusion of British and German culture with scatterings of influence from every other European nation and a few Asian ones. As I am not from Louisiana, there is very little French in there.
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>>171126492
Can you kill Chinks at a rate of 50:1 like Poo-in-Loos? Fuck them up and get a demand that puts you almost at 100% Overextension.
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>>171126673
you forgot to mention your prussian ancestry, you tyrone spicgger
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>>171126492
Are you based protestant?
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Is there any easy way to check if my vassals have claims I can press
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>>171126673
>I'm an American
So you live in the Western Sphere. Your culture is about 88% French. Also, your country only exists because of France.

>British
British is French m8 except some stuff that goes on in the Shetland Isles or guys that are reenacting Anglo-Saxon times.
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>>171126906
And this, lads, is why Francophilia is cancerous and should be made anathema on /gsg/.
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>>171126906
>ha
>british is french
Any latin influences in the english language are either latin, breton or norman which IS seperate to a french culture
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This looks so fucking cute, lads. This entire campaign was worth it just to see this.

>>171126726
Nah, I don't want to blob in China. And I can't kill curry niggers or Chinks at any ebin K:D because Johan fucked tech so they're hyper intelligent. Plus, I wouldn't want to blob in China.

>>171126786
Of course.
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>>171127036
Not an argument.
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How are the lewd mods for CK2?
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>>171126780
I don't think Prussia had many immigrants to the US.

>>171126906
>Your culture is about 88% French
We specifically discouraged French immigration. How are we French?

>Your country only exists because of France.
To piss off the Brits, the French then started shitting on us and the British thought it'd be a good idea to suck up to us so we'd become a trading partner with them. Which we did, it worked rather well for them.

>British is French
Norman =/= French. Normans were vikings that gave nominal lip to the French crown. It's also worth noting that in England itself, the Normans only occupied noble positions and did not settle in large numbers, having little influence on the common culture.
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>>171127082
You don't argue with deluded Gauls.

Make Frankreich Germanic again.
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>>171127053
I'm not talking about language, thankfully. About 50% of the English language derives from French though, funnily enough.
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>>171127053
Besides, the latin influences are largely ignored in favor of words of germanic origin. They really fell out of favor as the old nobility died off in influence.
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>>171127069
>Hong Kong
>on the west bank of the Pearl River
Shit doesn't add up.
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>>171127036
world would be better if based france removed krauts for good
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>>171127146
>How are we French?
I never said you were French. I'm saying you live in a country whose culture is only slightly divergent from the western norm. The western norm is French.
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>>171127345
>The western norm is French.
Haha, the Western norm is Germanic(Anglo-Saxon and German proper), you faggot.
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Time for some more curry, lads.
>>171127329
f-fuck you
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>>171127405
>Anglo-Saxon
That culture is long dead.

>German
What little germanic culture existed has been snuffed out and they are forming (or having one forced on them if you believe /pol/) a new one.
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>>171124510
i will once WW1 is over
>tfw this isn't even half the troops in the isles
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>my iberian wife is still visiting livonia
How bad is monks and mystics or has this bug been in since conclave
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>>171127941
can't blame her for wanting the Big Baltic Cock
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>>171127941
BALTED
>>
>want to play m&t
>remember it lags like hell
FUCK
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>>171127345
I wasn't aware it was normal for women not to bathe or shave and for infidelity to be a national sport.
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>>171127437
With the war in India looking favourable the Anglo-French parliament deems it time to upgrade the shipyard in Hong Kong, to allow damaged ships to be repaired much faster there.
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>>171127562
How can Germany be forming a culture if the German people are being replaced?
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How do I fix this? Also how do I switch state religion to protestant?
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>>171127562
>long dead.
Neither in blood nor in culture. :^) Talk about Norman influence as much as you'd like, but the culture of France and Britain developed separately both before and (long) after the Norman conquest. British culture was neither a product nor a copy of French culture.
>german
Implying implications. By your logic, French culture is just as dead and irrelevant if you judge its influence(or lack thereof) by the situation in Marseille.
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>>171128198
That and endless "war reps to Israel" plus guilt complex is the new culture.
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>>171128198
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>>171128234
What is there to fix?
Any why are your cultures so retarded?
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>>171128259
The Anglo-Saxon way of life is gone. Forever. The Anglo-Saxons were conquered, subjugated, cucked and enslaved. Their culture was vastly different before the invasion, true but afterwards England looked south for her influence. I am beginning to suspect you are a butthurt anglo and - therefore - not very impartial in your assessments and so I shall conclude our conversation here. If you think the Anglo-Saxon ways are not long dead then good luck with that.
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>>171128467
Because this is Divergences mod. This UK was born out of a revolution against the Anglo-French Dual Monarchy and the Scandinavian Empire.

>What is there to fix?
Going protestant? I think I need to change state religion for that, but how?
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hey
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>>171128726
Edit the savegame dumb dumb
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>>171128726
>PDM

D R O P P E D
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>make prime commander a earl
>he's invited me twice over to drink
I'm 66 and my kid is 6 hope I don't die of alcohol poisoning
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>>171128726
is this some extended timeline mod? name?
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Unironically don't believe genociding the """culture""" of Germans and Anglos was enough desu
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>>171128193
And the war with India is complete, with England and Bahmanis gaining an extraordinate amount of territory.
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>>171128876
>>171128992
https://github.com/Pergame35/Divergences

Its divergences mod. I think its in the archive as well.

Also which cultures do I keep accepted and which do I remove? I'm thinking of keeping just English and Scottish tbqh.
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>>171129259
yeah, it uses PDM economy and goods

>horse factories

no thanks
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>>171129259
>Irish
>People
Remove Irish and keep the rest
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And another jew appears at my court, thus slowing my incest breeding programme down by 3 generations, and he's charitable, maybe with the blood he steals from young boys
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>>171124510
here you go gross germany and gross kebab
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>>171128853
>last monarch of France is not Napoleon III.
Just how much delusion can there be?
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>>171128853
Cool stuff, I've used a few of those in my mod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698650453
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>>171129460
Noice
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>>171129460
Damn very nice. You have to take central asia and crimea though
>>
what are you supposed to do in vic 2? I know that ck is basically centered around dynasties while eu is about blobbing but what about vic 2?
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>>171128875
>diplomatic_points=9.000
>religion="protestant"
>government=absolute_monarchy
>plurality=3.001
>revanchism=0.000

huh... its already protestant
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>>171129862
can blob, but it's harder to by the same methods you'd use in ck2 or eu4. You have to really develop. Playing tall is a real option and kind of a requirement. This is done by industry and tech which isn't based on a random number generator, but on literacy (Mana desu) based on your pops. it's all about your pops. Good for autism and history
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>>171129720
going to hopefully get crimea with this war also bulgaria got kebabed hard
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>>171128853
Where is Napoleon III?
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>>171130016
You just have a large catholic population then
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>>171130080
jesus fucking christ lad. show pops
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>>171130080
Post diplo map I want to see what colonies are states also
beautiful culture map and >>171130173
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And then when a fellow jew appears in my court do the others rejoice, no they plot to kill each other, for fear of their positions being usurped
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How do I change from elective to primogeniture? Do I need to abolish the powers of the council first?
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>>171128853
>tfw dutch
>tfw still have a monarch
feels good mang
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>>171130067
alright, makes sense
might try to learn it one day as it reminds me of eu 3 for some reason
does its a lot smaller timespan compared to ck/eu makes a big difference in gameplay?
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>>171128853
Would've been nice to see the queen of england, in her youthful prime today as an ordinary girl.
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>>171130173
overall pops if you want anything specific let me know, i wish i could just select states.
>>171130203
diplo map next
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>>171130458
>tfw polish
>tfw our only pretender to throne is german cuck only because of our constitution from 1791
It probably would be cool to have one of Piasts or Jagiellons alive, or even one of polish habsburgs
But then again, modern monarchs are kinda like welfare niggers.
>>
Strong was this man's seed
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>>171130792
Not bad. Did you take the decision to get arabs accepted?
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>>171130203
here idk why darfur was made a state though it must be from the event
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A great man he was, a shame he left us so early
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>>171130498
It makes it better in my opinion. You can play a full run in one NEET sitting or over a lazy weekend.
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>>171131036
i never did unfortunately
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>>171130879
>welfare niggers
The Queen of England still lets the profits of her lands go directly into the treasury. She puts more into it than she takes out of it.
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>>171131265
RIP
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>>171131265
>Wessex
Man I just started a Wessex game today too.
>3 dukes as sons
This will be some fun succession
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>>171131716
So this man decided he would usurp two of my titles, imagine that, an Irishmen thinking himself better than the kings appointed by God himself, as such he and his wife shall languish in the dungeon, but his daughters will be put to good use, as I promised my steward on his death bed his line would live on, so they shall marry these traitors and birth many, many, many jews
>>171131853
>expanding that quickly
dude i bet you don't even have a frontier of hospital
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Reinstalled EU4 1.19 with all DLC except Rights of Man after last playing with Common sense. It seems like they nerfed blobbing with the states mechanic, made growing up somewhat necessary or preferential in some cases with institutions, and made the game overall more challenging but more rewarding as well. Estates are kind of cool too and actually give you more choice. Is EU4 still considered a pleb tier game, or have all the people who absolute hate it just not played in over a year? I am kind of burnt on Liqqy2 and am actually enjoying EU4 again.
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>>171131475
But aren't most private properties and lands still owned by nobles?
And even Belgium has a royal family with a lot of national investisements completly dodging taxes.
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>>171129190
Few small gainz in Belgium, nothing too ebin though because I'd get coalitioned by the >H>R>E
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>>171132164
>no rights of man
why though
great powers mechanic are a bit retarded (imo it should be regional powers until 1700 or so where everything should fuse into global powers) but they make game more interesting
also install mt
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>>171132109
oh fugg
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>>171132410
disband your army
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>>171132109
It took me 5 generations to become this.
>>171107820

le holy war memes
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>>171128853
>tfw charles has been waiting his whole life to become king and then he's gonna lose his kingdom as soon as he's crowned
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>>171132545
Makes it all the funnier if I want to be honest with you
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>>171128853
King Michael the Cuck also ruled Romania for a short while.
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>>171132542
Also, RETARDO STRENGTH became emperor of Brittania
I have no idea how I got the inbred trait. I was anglo saxon and my wife irish. Did I get POTATOED by her brother?
>>
how hard is it to play as an Irish Minor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdZ581yzCek
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What're the accepted pops
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>>171132750
>be inbred
>spawn attractive kid
anglo magic
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>>171132991
>that portrait
why not just marry a greek qt to protect your dynasty from hasburg jaws and chins
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>>171133095
I did, but she cheated on me and the only kid she spawned died of cancer.
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>>171132670
I know it's just such a letdown to go from his mother to him.
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Oh god. I'm a monster. Why did I do this?
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>>171133489
What do you have against Russia m8?
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>>171107820
Yeah Astrurias just disappeared in my game, although the dynasty I married from there is still around which is nice, so I could marry them to someone
>>
>>171133489
>Korea is not japanase
>>
>>171132859
If you start after viking era then it will be easymod.
>>
>>171069794
I am hosting an euiv multiplayer. Nobody can see it in the browser. What do I need to do for it to make it show up?
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>>171133656
Asturius clay needs to have pagan attrition or something for them to survive.
>>171132859
Start charliememe, become a merchant republic.
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>>171133790
call steam tech support
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>>171132991
>not being in a secret society

LMAO
>>
>>171134019
I'm cathar, why the fuck would I want to become a catholic secret society
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>>171133489
>no korea
>no nam
>no formosa
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>>171134104
to be satanist ;^)
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>>171133836
How about this, every king or petty king gets an event to give money to Asturias , thus enabling them to build tall, that or the papacy can ask you to crusade their to stop an excommunication, or excommunicated rulers can become Asturian vassals and buy ships to fight
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>>171133632
I wanted to see what would happen because I was kicking their ass so brutally hard.

>>171133726
>>171134176
The annex decision for Korea doesn't work until they've westernized. The backwards savages haven't done it yet.
They're my puppet though.

And I haven't gone to war against Vietnam or China, but they're next after I cool down from this last one.

Also Japanese Panama.
>>
What is the game most like Democracy 3?
Basically modern days presidential sliders simulator, you have a lot of sliders with lot of interconnected variables and you can transform your country into a free market, socialist utopia, scientific leader or religious dictatorship for example.
The period and setting is not very important, I would just like with a lot of cuztomization like that.
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>>171134191
Well, historically the region was very hard to conquer and occupy because it was hard to be supplied in and the people defending it were good at harassing and guerilla warfare.
I did Asturius before as a player, which needs a bit of luck but the AI just can't deal with Umayyads ever.

Honestly, give the AI Asturius pagan attrition or something to help them live.
>>
>>171134501
Don't bother with the Korea decisions, they cost as much infamy as fabricating the CB. Just annex them through estabilish protectorate
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>>171134705
you retard
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>>171134730
They're already my puppet. Can I un-puppet them?
>>
>>171134705
too early
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>>171134793
t. R&I
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>>171135070
its still 50 posts too early you dumb fuck
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>>171135704
It's pathetic, isn't it?
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I guess today is ckii wessex game day.
I started as Cynewulf of Wessex and first thing I did was join the satanists; I then possessed and fabricated my way into England and my third character was king by 821. After that dude died and the kid that inherited him got murdered I decided to join the Dominicans for a quick kek, got all of the seven virtues and built an observatory.
After that dude died, Cyneheard inherited when he was 11 and wrecked the shit out of two revolts, earning him the title of 'the Strong'. He then picked up where his predecessor left and told the pope to fuck off when he was bitching about that whole heliocentric thing.
The mudslimes steamrolled asturias as always and then invaded aquitaine, quick crusade put them in their place tho.
France is a gay orgy mess as always, Germany is somehow spared from the gorefest.
Currently at war with gross germanicums for the tip of the higlands in hopes of forming Britannia soon.
Been trying to get those sexy af german portraits into my family but when I finally got an heir that had them he goes and gets himself killed in a duel, the one child he had went for the theology childhood focus before I took his land away and put him on martial education when he turned 12, thankfully he's willful somehow and won't be completely useless when he turns 16.
Other than that the game is remarkably unstable, crashing and mapbugging out very often.
>>
I've been trying to get the Vicky 2 ultimate rebooted mod to work but it crashes when I get to the initializing maps screen. Help lads
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>>171136374
lmao
>>
>>171136134
>>171136374
>>171136463
post in new thread
>>
>>171136134
>those stats
Damn I'm jelly. I had to deal with an inbred 0/1/4/0/0 for 50 years in my Brittania game
Dude was strong, ended up brawny, had a pet cat, a pet dog, was a hunter. Had like +5 health from traits in total. Took forever to be rid of that guy
>>
>be heretic
>attack OPM next to me, du joure claim
>3 monastic orders instantly spawn to help him out for 100% free
I love this meme
>>
>>171137648
what happened to the other thread lmao
>>
WHAT THE FUCK DID THE MODS JUST DO?
>>
What the fuck just happened?
>>
wew
>>
FUCKING IDIOT JANNIES
>>
>>171138189
>wallachia/albania/byzantines were shitholes and deserve to be weak while ottomans were on their early phase in becoming muslim juggernaut

I 100% agree with you. Whenever someone works out a way for Byzantium to beat the Ottomans Paradox nerfs it. Is it an alternate history game though or a game that needs to stay perfectly true to history?

Rhetorical question.
>>
you didn't pay taxes to unblock your path
>>
MODS == DOGS
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>>171138368
they usurped our authority, all power to the soviets, all moderators to their deaths
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>>171138351
it was too early I guess, I thought we were very close to the bump limit but I guess not.
Maybe 40 posts were deleted in this one.
>>
based mods
fast, someone recreate the anime thread
>>
I made a joke earlier about Jean Bureau always rolling 9s and it got deleted. Not even allowed to joke about gsg games every post has to be 100% serious.
>>
>>171138427

There should have been an earlier start date than 1444 desu

Currently there are too many nations who had a advantage in 1444 wheras in 1356 things were no so set in stone.
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>>171138434
Guess we got 4th Crusaded
>>171138482
>I
Look at this guy, thinking he represents the community
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>>171138482
Yeah, I think they must've deleted a ton of shitposts from this thread, because there was no way it was under 700 when the new thread was posted.
>>
>>171137769
>>171138189
why were these deleted?
>>
>>171138570
What do you mean Portugal shouldn't be able to conquer Spain, what do you mean Spain wasn't a fixed idea which everything was leading towards, what do you mean the duke of burgundy must die, what do you mean you can't form the hapsburg empire because of diplomacy limit
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>>171138676
Racism.
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>>171138676
oh, they were in the other thread. excuse me. I just saw "deleted" nex to the post number
>>
>>171138570
That all sounds fair. Paradox wouldn't like it though. They need their champions to get Constantinople. I'm not claiming it's a /pol/ conspiracy or because they're Swedish, maybe they just want Ottomans to be "the endgame". It's a sandbox though and the choices the player makes should lead to consequences that define his "endgame" be it the Ottomans, a crazy Armenia or a triumphant Russia.
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>>171138896
In some ways I like the railroading of the Iberian wedding, but in others like Ottomans being just frankly OP with ideas and having the best goverment i fucking hate it
>>
The new thread got deleted.
wew
>>
>>171138676
>>171139282
because they were neither white, nor holy and not based
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>>171139637
we think so we wuz
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>>171139125
And they get Crimea for fucking free now.
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>>171139637
wut game
>>
>>171139948
vicky 2
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>>171139637
t. Muhdickscartes
>>
>>171138586
>Look at this guy, thinking he represents the community
No saying I thought something doesn't in any way imply anyone else must think that way.
>>
>>171139991
How does paradox get away selling a hundred games that all use the same engine and same assets
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Oh boy I just found my new heir.

Also how come my daughter is lucifer incarnate? Is it because of the Satyric Blessing?
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New Thread
>>171140150
>>171140150
>>171140150
>>171140150
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>>171140092
>How does paradox get away with [insert here]
autism
>>
>>171140158
yes
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>>171140092
>you need a new engine for every new game
>no development takes place in the engine, it's always exactly the same for all games
>>
>>171139637
Nice
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>>171137648
that's pretty historical
>>
>>171136134
Play as vikings, nerd.
>>
>>171140665
Yes, I'm sure the fucking knights of Santiago and St John.showed up in Memel to kill the prussians.
>>
>>171140735
I did play a game once where I took some dude in jutland and invaded Africa like that one son of ragnar did, except I kept the lands and moved there.
I think I named it something that translates to salt lands because of that salt lake near tunis.
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>>171134910
Yes
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>>171138736
tbf if Bergundy is player controlled the event wont fire.
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