/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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First for Dichronautism

>>170043249
Why do they look like that?

>>170008806
A VR engine would probably be standard for long-hauls too.

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>>170043645
Fifth for that thing you like.

>>170044181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsX_i4XGhkM
Should also note the REMcast is finally up after some technical issues.

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>fps in mid 40s

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>>170044181
>that ground colour and texture

AHH

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>>170043645
Dichronauts man deserves all of the bullying he gets for designing a universe where trying to turn a rock 45 degrees transforms it into an infinitely long relativistic augur.

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>>170044318
>>170044310
Should have turned post processing off, still working on that. That was also in the editor, so the fps counter is way off. It was actually at about 60-ish, based on frametime rather than graphics tick.

>>170044181
that is not hektic or eurobeat

>>170045029
Seriously, why do people not read at least some of the thread before posting?

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>>170045216
Some days there's enough anime girls here that I have to do a double take.

>>170045216
>>170045398
Yesterday I miss-posted because I was half asleep.

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hey guys i fixed it

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>>170044286
>8:10

>>170045727
>factorio
>supcom
This bait.

>>170045727
Is that a frame of the 2k logo intro?

>>170045903
it's some AI from the campaign

>>170044286
>joining us today is rem!
Best tastes, though I prefer Ram.

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[muffled space piracy in the distance]

Redesigned railguns again, rof has increased about 30%. Ship roll stability increased. Detection improved. Torpedo defense increased. Reworking your vehicles is a never ending task in this game there's too much shit to learn.

>>170045783
Don't overload your suspension. You'll have a bad day.

>>170045727
>CHoDE
Can i get a run down on this??

>>170046219
You have patrician taste.

A non-stop moon warfare.

>>170047478
Soon.

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>>170046370
>Torpedo defense increased.

>>170047632
Sensei was best girl in that show along with Mii.

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Is Spengies fixed yet?

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>>170047632
Can't torpedo you if you're not in the water. Ergo, defense has increased.

>>170047632
Well it doesn't fly all the time, it's also submersible. Flying is bad for gas mileage and puts the radar+ seat signatures way up. Harvesting resources zones is much easier in the water too.

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curves in abortion

>>170047367
Children Of A Dead Earth.
It's a sliders simulator with an amazing amount of options and posibilities. Here's the creator talking about it:

Children of a Dead Earth was developed primarily to answer the question: What would space warfare actually be like? Various hard science fiction novels and other media have attempted to answer that question in the past, but these works have always come up short, at best relying on rampant speculation, and at worst, inventing fictitious technologies to support their conclusions.

Children of a Dead Earth solves these issues by first being a complete and utter simulation of space warfare, and second by relying only on technology that has been explicitly demonstrated to work. This is critically important: there is absolutely minimal guesswork in this game, instead everything is necessarily derived from equations, and the mathematical results of these equations.

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>>170044286
>talking microtransactions
>nice little gimmick that's completely useless
spinners for wheels pls

just steal the whole catalog from nfsu

>>170046370
game?

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>>170049446
Gotta say, that looks sexy.

>>170049446
hi elon

>>170049446
hol up, can u edit fighters so they look like the ship pods?

>>170049446
>tyrell corp building on top
>feminie pen nose
>curved delta wings
11/10 almost makes me want to play abortion

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>>170050887
From the depths

>>170051228
It does. I bet there's not enough cargo space to hold all the writers butthurt though.

>>170051717
thanks

>>170045026
damn REM looking sexy now

is the demo for wheels out yet? I'll download it if it is.

>>170051717
What's the output on that LMD?

so REM is aiming to be able to recreate tanks, armored cars and also whatever you can make right?

seems like a big change from floaty spaceships with guns :^)

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>>170052281
After seeing that webm for the first time in ages I was curious about the lams myself. The laser and engine power are actually pretty low I don't know why it's so effective.

>>170052939
Actually, I think I can answer that. You don't use destabilizers, correct?

>>170053348
Never have. Not sure what their purpose is, maybe for a sniping laser

>>170051717
>When your shells are in the sky
>Taking down a big guy
>That's a moray

>>170051717
Those birds annoy the hell out of me, especially when I jump up mountains to build retarded illogical 1500m tall radar towers

>>170053504
So what's going on is that sheer volume of fire is massively multiplying your raw damage on the first tic.
See, without destabs each emitter only uses 20% of the total power, which is what that 5k damage figure represents. And you've got a boatload of LMDs.
So if you have, say, 16 LMDs lighting up with base power 5k, you've got about 24.9k damage output there.

And destabs are for when you only have a few laser outputs. They're useless once you get past five outputs.
Though back in the day, one tactic that saw use was to make a laser with barely any pumps that recharged in 20 seconds, enough destabs to get almost all that energy in a single pulse, and a 1q emitter set to fire every 20 seconds. That way the enemy's smoke would wear off between shots.

>>170052009
that's a tasty looking melt

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>>170053665
solid goa'uld post

>>170053753
It's more effective than ships with far more emitters and engine power though. Investigation is needed.

>tfw can't understand train signals on factorio
I just want to build ore haulers without having to build a separate track for each train ;_;

>>170053930
>It's more effective than ships with far more emitters and engine power though. Investigation is needed.
Do you have the LMDs set to closer engagement ranges on that ship than on the theoretically better ships? That could easily do it. LMDs are trash at long range work.

>>170052081
Nope. When we release a new version, it will have tracks, better lighting, unfucked this and that, and also functioning damage.

>>170054058
Nope. Maybe less emitters is actually better? Notice the steel striders thyr has a low number of emitters but it will stop almost any shell.

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So REM has a 'core'/cockpit thing at the moment. I assume it will have modules you can damage and surround with plates and struts like an engine block and others? You can blow off wheels right?

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>>170054530
Of course. This has all been well established. You also need to build a functioning drivetrain with physically connected modules. Right now the damage is eh, but with some more tweaking we'll get it to where you properly break in half instead of just dissolving.

Current ETA is soon(tm).

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>>170054058
There's definitely something freakishly good about the laser system on the smaller ship. Compare how good this is to the next webm. a ship with triple the engines, double the laser power and 3x the emitters.

>>170055795
Intercept performance against the first shell or two in the volley seems to be identical to what was displayed against the moray's one or two shell salvos.

>>170055795
Also, the time between salvos is pretty different. The laser system in that webm is under a LOT more pressure.

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>>170056015
That's the same ship. this is the one with theoretically better stats but it's hopeless by comparison. It's got 3x the armor pierce value too.

>>170056151
Bingo, there's the issue. Blueship's LMDs are positioned away from where the shells are aimed it, whiteship's LMDs are right on top of the aim point. That makes a huge difference in LMD effectiveness.

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>>170056276
The incoming shells look like they're headed directly into the laser fire though?

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aesthetics???

>>170056610
Yeah, but there's a bunch of other LMDs at bad angles that could very well be higher in the laser priority chain and thus wasting all the energy on misses. I'd say try disconnecting the forewards LMDs and retrying, see if that improves performance.

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New .webm of card reader start

Feeds a magazine of data cards one at a time into the reading area

>>170056919
That didn't make a difference thanks anyway. The white ship is just a freak or something

>>170056808
Hot damn. Got any more?

>>170050378
I was actually memeing about bogs again, you got me interested on this.

Thanks anon

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>>170058804
Np m8, it's a hell of a lot of fun if you have the right type of autism.

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>>170056808
Nice.

>decide to build a new ship
>end up with an angular, low-poly Dominix
I really need to get my shit together.

>>170059027
how do I get extreme velocities from my rail/coil-guns?

>>170059121
How extreme are we talking here?

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>>170059209
Enough to punch a perfectly clean hole with litterally no debris, like in the Expanse, episode 3.

>>170059209
I can't seem to breach 10km/s without breaking something

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>>170059248
The closest I've seen to Expanse style combat was with ships armed with these.

>>170059424
Use railguns, Zirconium Copper and a VCS projectile. Otherwise you're trying to make coilguns that are just WAY too innefficient to be practical.

>>170059491
>58mm 1 gram tungsten round
Are you firing fucking tungsten foil disks at people?

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>>170059698
Presumably its a rod, so its more like short little tungsten pencils. Either way, its pretty funny.

>>170059491
why a tungsten projectile? why not use osmium?

>>170059775
If it's tungsten, a cylinder, 1 gram, and 2.9cm in radius? That means it's about 20 micrometers thick.

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>>170057280
spliced into input segment

>>170059698
Yes, around 45 per second.

>>170059831
No real reason, projectile composition doesn't seem to matter much when they weigh so little.

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Webm of a bunch firing at an escort carrier, the guns have basically no spread at their "effective" range so they'll pretty easily put holes clean through any of the stock armors.

>>170052939
Damage / emitters / shot rate = average damage per shot.
Compare to the shell HP of a given round. LAMs on the same turret seem to fire together at the same target.

>>170062301
Your formula's off.
Damage / %energy used per shot * shots per second gives you net LMD damage per second assuming pumps and engines are able to handle the demand and you have enough emitters. Adding more emitters that fire accurately just increases net damage, though with extremely severe diminishing returns.
You can't accurately predict how it'll be split if there's LMD nodes firing at different targets, since each one gets a different damage value. You can guestimate the net damage on a target if you know the accuracy though.

https://phys.org/news/2017-03-math-lego-like3-d-picture-language-far-reaching.html

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>>170062301
>>170062439
I don't think it's about damage there's some other mystery factor at work. Damage-wise the blue ship beats the white ship hands down. 10k pulsed damage and 110AP 180k storage vs 5k pulsed, 31AP, 100k storage.

I've been experimenting but the blue ship lams just sucks balls I don't know wtf is going on.

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So, Skylife VR /egg/men, what time are you usually playing

and is there a solitary soul on that server ever (eggmen have no souls)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrPiVT23MhA

>>170062991
That's quite interesting. It'll be interesting if anything gets discovered purely because there's a different representation of the problem.

>>170059248
What would this even do?

>tfw toaster so can't fulfill autistic needs

>>170063180
I started myself with ship LAMS yesterday, but i'm currently having engine exhaust issues which I need to resolve before I can do some tests :|

You're saying the 10k/110AP is better than the 5k/31AP though?

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*autism intensifies*

>>170063698
>Use a children's learning tool
>Call it autism

>>170063686
The opposite. The ship with the more powerful laser is far worse at shooting down shells.

>>170063295
That's not the ISS therefore not space legos general

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>>170063698
Godspeed you glorious bastard.

>>170063295
How do i live here

>>170063754
Right, well that is weird.
Are emitters, munitions, warning detectors all the same and up to task, no other contributing factors?

I havent found any good guides/formulae for LAM numbers

>>170062301
>>170062439
>>170064104

I think I've found the problem. All the munition detectors were hooked up to the same mainframe that handles all the sensors and rangefinders for all the ships guns.

Apparently, even though it had enough processing to handle 100% of the sensors, hooking too much shit up to one mainframe gives bad results. Assigning the munition warners to a dedicated mainframe has drastically improved the defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bsEN8mwUB8

>>170064257
Oooh interesting!
How many munition warners are we talking about?

>>170064313
When it was getting shit intercept results it had about 20 warners and 20 other thermal cameras, laser trackers, radars, rangerfinders etc hooked up to one mainframe with a lot of processing cards.

With only 6 munition warners split between two dedicated mainframes it's much better.

>>170063295
Fuck man that's comfy.
The fact that it's a reverse hell outside makes it even comfier.

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>>170064579
webbum related

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IT WORKS

IT FUCKING WORKS

mostly

At least, it can add 11111111 to 00000000

>>170065493
The onion is one step *below* south park in the satire power level

rule of thumb: if your satire can't be taken as a genuine thing by a "moron in a hurry" (actual legal and scentific term), it's not good satire

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>go to test weapons systems on a small commercial freighter over europa
>get shot
>game crashes so hard my ship disappears

>>170065712
Then what is top satire level?
I'd say DNews on Youtube.

>>170065983
Limmy

>>170066093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH0hikcwjIA

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RIP camera

What's your favourite genre of music, /egg/?

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>the camera rematerialized without a scratch

>>170068373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWTcGmTQl0

>>170068373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9BGW61_zOA

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I fucked up boys. It tries to reset the carry latch to 0, but if the previous operation had a carry then it gets stuck on 1 and fills up the register.

I'm hoping it's as simple a solution as changing a cam position

Aside from that adding works pretty smooth, and I've tweaked everything to make it fairly fast as well.

>>170065664
Damn! that's mega nice, utterly shuts down those cannons.

>>170065705
Carry Bit, when?

>>170069167
>mechanical propagation delay
Timing issues are a bitch.

>>170063481
run an LED

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>>170054057
>tfw can't understand train signals on factorio
Train signals split rails into blocks. Only one train may be in a block at a time (the signal turns red when a train enters the block and green when it leaves).

Chain signals also split rails into blocks, but their colour mirrors that of the next signal down the line. You use them so that a train doesn't enter a junction until its exit is clear.

Whenever you have multiple rails touching (whether splitting, merging, or crossing), you have a junction. You need to add signals to separate the junction from the tracks leading into and out of it (otherwise, a train on any connected track will prevent other trains from entering any connected track).

As a general rule, place (normal) signals at the exits and chain signals at the entrances.

And don't use bi-directional tracks (unless it's disconnected from the rest of your network and only has a single train); they're more trouble than they're worth.

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>>170068373

>>170072023
Yes, but what's the difference between the two sides of a track?

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>>170072096
Rail signals are always on the right of a track. The first time you place a signal, it makes the track uni-directional; a train cannot pass in the direction which would have the signal on its left.

To have signals on bi-directional tracks, every signal needs another signal exactly opposite it (the correct position is shown in white). But just avoid bi-directional tracks altogether.

Pic related: a siding (one split, one merge). Direction of travel is downward.

Jousting ships when

>>170071916
>shattered horizon, goofy edition

>>170068373
I don't really have one. My music is all in one folder labeled 'Shuffle'.

As for CLANG music though, it's annoyingly hard to find industrial like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V70aqXNy0MY

>>170044286
>talking about grinding
>talking about hard tiers with big jumps
>talking about first victory bonuses

nobody learned anything. it's all just the same.

>>170070643
Hopefully tomorrow.

I was thinking it over as I (tried) to go to sleep and figured out a solution. I need two memory latches. One to determine whether the current operation uses a carry bit as an input, and one to store the generated carry bit from the current operation. Then at the end of the cycle I trigger a cheeky little auxiliary cam that transfers the bit from latch 1 to latch 2. That should stop things from locking up.

>>170070856
>timing issues are a bitch
Yeah. I'd say it's the 2nd most fiddly part of making it, next to tuning spring and motor strengths.

Anyway, fuck. Back to trying to get to sleep. I drank too much pepsi max

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Fabled eggman hulk

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>miner's docked on a landing platform
>it phases through the bottom and explodes
>platform is left unharmed other than a few dents

>>170076547
clang

>>170068373
Heres a hidden gem of GBA music thats good to build to.
https://youtu.be/Xo8ykwFxVL0

>>170068373
maybe not my fav genre but I have a soft spot for c64 SID chip tunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWnk8CRd1Fg

>>170068373
https://files.catbox.moe/iyh7ta.mp3

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bistable latch v3

>>170071916
what movie? and is that fucking mark wahlberg at the beginning? totally looks like him

>>170065705
congrats on doing a contraption that literally does nothing

>>170079967
thanks man

>>170079549
Lunar day of leaf

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>>169515710
I stopped browsing /egg/ for a while, you guys still sperging out on that spengies server?

>>170080882
Whoops accidental reply

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>just finished listening to entire last REMcast
>that discussion on track components
Keep it up you glorious fucking tools. I can't wait to fuck with this stuff.

>>170065664
If you're still about- how well does your LAMs handle an Onyx Godlike Trebaucher?
I'm finding that thing to be an absolute mosnter in terms of death raining shelling.

>>170080882
>when the chinese recipe calls for a teaspoon of dog

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>>170084190

>>170075250
You're shaping that into his face, right?

>>170085039
We had the perfect face+moustache on the stolen argie cruiser BEFORE YOU FUCKS LET IT SMASH INTO THE ASTEROID.

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>>170072653
>>170072023

You mean a track shouldn't be used to go both ways? I have two stations close together to the north of my base sharing a track. I had trouble at first but I put a lot of regular signals and both trains have two locomotives and each has its station. Should I just make one individual track path for each train?

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:thinking:

>>170086101
>You mean a track shouldn't be used to go both ways?
What happens if the "Oil Field" train is outbound while the "Minas Gerais" train is inbound, and they meet at the bi-directional track?
HINT: It causes a deadlock which requires manual intervention to fix. This problem only becomes more likely as number of trains increases.

>>170046370
Bro why are you using Ion engines over conventional HUEG jets?

Also how do I afford powerful laser systems without relying on steam engines? Engine bits are cheap af, but I find that I need massive ones to power decent LAMS, whereas with steam I legitimately need to turn down the difficulty of my campaign strictly so I can keep my 140k material flying laser rapists afloat, as they burn so much materials that I actually have trouble fielding them.

>>170087739
>Bro why are you using Ion engines over conventional HUEG jets?

Not that guy, but i'd say that it's because that thing can reach space

>>170068373
I don't listen to music

>>170057943
How many Q switches do you have on the white ship? They both look like 4Q systems, but that white one is like wohh better.

no ded

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Skywanderers public access when?

>>170091696
early 2019

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Good morningcycle /egg/.

The design committee, following the smashing, nuclear, success that was the last project, is here for your help once again.

This time around we've been tasked with creating a hovercraft and provided a chassis that already hovers and crafts. More details to follow.

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>>170092664
Here's the chassis we have to work with. Basic power, fuel, and ammo are already installed. Though, any energy weapons will need their own engines to function, it's already redlining the ones it has. Likewise, adding really big guns or missile arrays may require adding more ammo.

But enough boring shit, it's time for ENGINEERING. The first order of business is the SIDE PODS. You see where that robot is?
They're 5x5x5 if anybody cares, and we absolutely can stick a gun straight out the side.
However, the Naval Design Board has required that whatever we put in these pods have VERTICAL SYMMETRY.

What shall we install? We are sadly out of nukes, lead, and light blocks.

>>170092664
neat

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>>170093057
Pardon, that appears to not be the image with the robot in it.

>>170093057
1 barrel part long guns with low velocity rounds and decoys

>>170093179
Put AA guns on the side pods so that we can add more dakka to the main pods.

>>170093375
>>170093376
Cannons it is!
But we can't very well make a low-velocity cannon, or at least the design committee has no clue how to.
Could we have a tiebreaker, or inspiration?

>>170094014
to make low velocity you just have 1 casing and then a ton of solid body pieces in front of that

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>>170059027
Use the capacitor meme.
Your guns will inevitably get heavier, but it's the only way to get ranges in excess of 50km that I've seen after the update. Use water or halfnia, nothing else seems to produce very good results.

>>170094508
Wonderful! We're sure that putting a time fuse on the shells will work or do something vaguely similar to working.

Somebody mentioned Landkreuzers in the REMcast. It got me thinking. I think ultra-superheavies could work in REM. It would have to be a very late addition, after even clan wars. It'd take an entire clan to build, or even design one, and especially to pay for one. Then, upper bounds would be removed from all components. After that, it might be feasible to actually do. Here's why;

Massive vehicles do still exist, but they are stuck in oversized WWI mechanical design out of a lack of necessity. While possible, dealing with such weight in a combat vehicle will still be complicated. The input of multiple people, as well as multiple operators once completed, would be requited. Articulated suspension segments, such as on a four-track large vehicle, could be implemented by allowing turret rings to be mounted on the underside of a vehicle and allow drive components to be mounted to them. This should allow a certain degree of rotation to be achieved thus allowing a massive 1,000 ton vehicle to actually turn. I'm sure we have at least one person here who would froth at the mouth at the chance to design such a complicated drivetrain.

(cont'd)

>>170095006
Landkreuzers should represent a clan's combined technical and material strength. To this end, no upper bounds should be set on materials or components. However, they'd still be limited by the largest existing technical components. It's up to clan engineers to figure out how to power the beasts, without exhausting the clan's coffers. Ammunition, fuel, and materials for repair also cost money. These should all come directly from the clan's stocks. It should go without saying that as the clan's 'totem vehicle' as it were, there should be no mechanism to distribute the design and only one Landkreuzer should be allowed to each clan, requiring them to completely disassemble or delete it to build another.

Landkreuzer combat could exist as simple extension of clan wars fights. Instead of drawing from personal vehicle stocks or clan motor pools, each clan's Landkreuzer would face off 1v1. With their sheer size and complexity, almost an entire clan 6v6 team could still be present even in a 1v1, as, let's face it, even the driver is going to have a rough go of it, especially if he has to manage all the engines too. He'll probably need several peripherals to effectively map all of his gearboxes and clutches. In addition to an operator for each turret, a Landkreuzer Captain would have the responsibility of directing the vehicle as well as its weapon systems.

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>>170093375
>>170093376
>>170094508
>>170094620
Low velocity AA guns, and a small flare system, installed!
Next is the forwards compartment. It's 5x5x9, and the Naval Design Board has fucked off with their demands for symmetry. Poking a gun through the front armor is, of course, possible. Poking guns through the side is also doable. Turrets work, missiles would be fine, sky's the limit here.

>>170096496
Large caliber high velocity doomsday guns on both sides poking out the front, want to wreck the shit out of anything that gets in front of us.

>>170094567
Look at the efficiency, can't get that out of a capacitor.

>>170096875
Woops, wrong reply but since you ask, how is such a gun going to compete against admittedly less efficient guns with five times the range? Especially now that AI's are more willing to use the ignore range functions and start flinging rounds at 50km+?

>>170096714
Big, nasty shellchuckers it is.

Decision time! A CRAM cannon would hit harder but the shells would be slower.
An APC cannon would fire faster, the shells would have higher velocity, but each shell wouldn't hit as hard.

Also, one cannon per side or two?

>>170097464
CRAM that shit up, fampai. One per side

>>170097216
Well they're accurate enough at 70km to still be dangerous and the rate of fire makes them do horrible things to armor, especially with multiple guns. The ROF will also lag the game out though if you've got too many projectiles fired at once.

>>170098396
So high efficiency can also produce high accuracy? Shit m8, I've been focused on the ranging numbers, am I retarded?

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>>170096610
>>170096714
>>170097797
A pair of two meter doomguns has been added!

Next will be the AFT compartment! However, those bastards at the Naval Design Board have mandated that whatever we put in here MUST NOT PROTRUDE UPWARDS. Sticking a gun out the back is impossible since that's where the main jets are, but we could certainly put a underslung turret in, giant jets, boring engine or ammo stuff, or even do something crazy.

In related news, the design committee is breaking for lunch. We expect them to return within an hour and a half, please feel free to call them lazy assholes while you plan.

>>170098759
Ranging numbers are something like accuracy * velocity, a lot of low(er) velocity guns can be just as accurate as range. Realistically though there aren't many guns that can effectively fight gigawatt lasers or micro missile/drone swarms.

>>170099116
A big dediblade setup for max sanics

>>170100605
Dediblades it is! Do you want them to be unpowered, or should we use some of the internal space on engines to make it a powered blade array?

>>170102596
Try unpowered first. They do it for free
See if there's a noticeable increase in speed

>>170102883
With current drag and load, speed without dediblades is 56m/s, and with unpowered dediblades is 57m/s. By bolting in some temporary engines, the motor drive 10 dediblade test achieved a speed of 58m/s.

>>170103427
How big are the blades? The Cheese Committee is requesting a visual

>>170099116
What about decoy spawners?

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>>170103563
Each blade array is 3x3x9, there are five blade arrays per side.

>>170103630
Entirely possible! We have access to flares, radar decoys that would would lure in radar guided missiles, and if we really felt the need for it sonar decoys.

>>170104141
Pardon, 3x3x7.

>>170104141
then add dropdown decoy chute, maybe with tiny teeny lasers on each drone, set to target enemy sensors.

>>170104141
Try and widen the center array, extend the blades up and to the sides as far as they'll fit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=47&v=e7S4A2qf79c

[testing the joints]

>>170044286
I'm surprised how much you guys can talk between the two of you guys. But I'm a beta introvert so what do I know.

unless I'm shitposting

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>>170104407
58.1m/s. The Naval Aeronautics intern reports it would be possible to turn this into a differential steering array, but it seems unlikely the craft will get much more raw speed since there's already a lot of thrust.

>>170105007
Fuck the dediblades then, go with the decoy idea

>>170104353
>>170105214
Decoys it is!

There's two main options. We can have dedicated anti-missile decoys.
Or we can have a manufacturing system for small craft that are intended to spoof the default target prioritization logic.

Or uh, we could totally split the difference and do both at once. Yeah, both at once is happening. This might take a while, since I need to rig up a NOR gate and a slow clock so we don't oversaturate the spawners or waste materials fabricating decoys when there's no enemies.

I haven't messed wth the land vehicles on FtD, but I think I remember someone saying there's basically no ground friction...

Does this mean it's perfect for making go-fast drift machines???

>>170106382
Oh boy is it. If you've got a flat area, you can trivially hit 100+ meters per second and skid all over the place.

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>>170107104
It's fuckin on, then

>>170063743
Anon, that is a 10x multiplyer on his autism.

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>>170104353
>>170105214
>>170105967
Decoy systems installed (though the actual decoy craft hasn't yet been built yet)! As long as an enemy is within 5km they'll spam flares and radar decoys, and will spawn a pair of decoy craft every 60 seconds too!
There's still leftover space, too! What should we fill it with? Engines? Ammo? Something else? Remember, the Naval Design Board is being bastards and saying we can't have anything protruding upwards.

>>170108431
how much energy consuming would be warp engine?
would it be feasible to keep it loaded/almost loaded and proceed to jerk forward should the need for rapid skedaddling arise?

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why did he put airevents on the outside?

>>170108431
a singular chair

>>170095137
>>170095006
See, funny thing is we were talking about how you'd probably should never see one, but 1v1 fights with large crews would be pretty neat. Actually possible as well, once we optimize the physics a bit better.

>>170108692
To depressurize the planet

>>170108626
A warp engine would have to run the entire length of the ship to do more than eat all the power and shove the ship forwards a few meters every other minute.

>>170108734
A chair will be added, no matter what else goes in!

It also might be worth noting that right now ammo expenditure outweighs ammo input. Adding more guns without more ammo will make this thing severely worse in long combats.

>>170108908
All you would need to do is remove caps on things like turret rings, spans, plates, and spring/wheel size and travel. Regardless of that you'll probably see exclusively electric drive on landships.

>>170109005
ammo makers it is then
with chair
and a flower in pot

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>>170109115
Ammo! A chair! Something we think is a flower!

Now, the large forward compartment! We can add anything we want!

>>170109098
The suspension and LP cost would be the hard cap for that, not any sort of size restraint, which doesn't really exist. We'd need to make a custom Land kreuser class of locomotion to support the huge weight and stress. Which isn't hard, BTW, but it will certainly not be for a while.

>>170108692
It looks like an atmospheric and space ship so probably to pressurise and top off the oxygen tanks while in atmosphere before going out into space without using up ice.

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>>170109889
Question: (Save this for next REMcast if you like) Will you add steam engines to the ground vehicles engines? I imagine a bunch of tanks and then there's a fucking train.

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>>170109868
Still taking input for the big forward compartment.

Also, I think this should work fairly well as a decoy, what do you think?

>>170109868
Add a faster-firing advanced cannon, focusing on AP

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>>170068987
Damn, that's pretty nice

>>170112321
Rapid fire APS gun!
How many firing pieces?
Turreted, I assume? Turret on top, on bottom, or both?
Medium shells or big shells?
Rail-assisted? Would require using some space for power.

>>170109889
>The suspension and LP cost would be the hard cap for that
You make it limitless. As I said, it's meant to be a representation of the extent of the financial and design power of an entire clan. LP is pointless for that. Anything they afford, they can add to the design. Which means they can actually build those gigantic springs made of high quality material for that roadwheel the size of a New Beetle they slavishly ground gold for as a collective effort.

>>170112932
One firing piece, turret on top, medium shells. No rail assist, just a lot of gun powder

>>170113190
Roger that!

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>>170112947
You're being very optimistic, as people could just as easily spam down hundreds of the cheapest thing, but we'll see.

>>170111292
REMcasts are far and few between. More of a collection of what we say/think than the end-all-be-all only platform.

We could add any sort of engine your little head could think of, as its just numbers. Correct pricing, placement and balance is the hard part. I imagine a steam engine would need to be a hell of a lot heavier/larger with a much beefier transmission and gearbox setup than a standard diesel powerpack. Would also explode rather readily. Ergo, if its more fragile, much heavier, requires better trannies and gearboxes and is a larger target, it should itself be cheaper and put out more horsepower.

No idea why one would use it unless you were taking the piss or decided you wanted to make a battletrain on uneven terrain.

>>170111292
That's tankette you doofus
it ever reads so on pic

>>170113592
>You're being very optimistic, as people could just as easily spam down hundreds of the cheapest thing, but we'll see.
That's the point of them only being used for 1V1's. LITERALLY Objects, now that I think about it. Megabot v. Megabot mode.

>>170059094
Post pics

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>>170114186
>1v1 deathmatches with a fucking train on either side

>>170114186
>>170113592
Also you look me in the damn face and tell me /egg/ wouldn't want to build the most massive, powerful symbol possible of just how fucking #1 Warbros is.

>>170068461
Why does your camera have gyros?

>>170114936
Is this in Space Engineers or Empyrion?

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>>170113190
>>170113296
These 125mm gattling guns will liberally spray our foes with ten shells a second!

Next would be the second rear compartment, but are people getting sorta sick of this? I notice I'm getting fewer replies, though that may just be because FTD doesn't interest most /egg/men.

>>170115128
Sounds like PoE. And people who can't read

>>170115251
spurdo

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REM needs tankclang now.

>>170115251
An explosive advanced cannon, higher up so it can shoot over the one in front of it

>>170116416
>Tfw the enemy tank roundhouse kicks yours

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>>170116416
>when streetfighter crosses over with tanks

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>>170116416
>>170117412
>>170117540
What kind of suspension and armor types are you excited to try? I can't wait to fuck with transmissions, clutches, brakes and differentials.

Also
>saw declassified details of Chobham armor panel internal layout for the 'undedable' Abrahams
>can't fucking wait to use it and rekt scrubs

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>>170116416

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>>170116458
SUPERfiring turrets!

One last spot to fill!

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>>170117887
Team Locust blasting off agaaaiiin!

>>170117887
I forgot how bad it looked before I built a new computer.

That was ages ago though. Never again.

>>170117841
>>saw declassified details of Chobham armor panel internal layout for the 'undedable' Abrahams

Can you post this? Composition of materials, thickness, and hardness of layers would be most useful.

I want to see if it works in REM right now, and tweak settings until it does if it doesn't. The damage code should theoretically support anything If setup correctly. There is some fuckery that needs to be done to iron out a few remaining bugs though, so this'll be a good test.

>>170118070
finnish flag

>>170118070
SAMS

>>170118070
minelayers

>>170118759
SAMs it is!

Giant telephone pole SAMs, or something else in the lower half of the compartment?

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>>170119053
>>170119076
Nevermind, an answer has appeared!
SAMs on top, mines underneath.

Also, uh.
The prototype appears to have run out of fuel hovering.
Could somebody send a tanker by?

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>>170119076
>Giant telephone pole SAMs, or something else in the lower half of the compartment?

SAMS on the top, minelayers out the bottom.

>>170119174
>Could somebody send a tanker by?

sent ;)

>>170118634
http://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.com/2017/01/early-m1-abrams-composite-armor.html
We'll need rubber and spring mounts for spacers.

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reminder machinecraft is best /egg/

>>170120006
This is loony-toons tier shit right here. I love it.

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reminder besiege is best /egg/

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>>170120946
post yfw machinecuckposter used a besiege gif to bitch about the lack of machinecuck posting.


>>170037820

>>170120050
m a g i c h o v e r

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>>170119194
Mines added!
Missiles added!
Fuel resupplied!

Time to finish the hull and give this bitch some combat testing!

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>>170120006
>Mostly placed special armour on entire sections rather than spacing it out
>Leaving back sides with only 'normal' armour
I know decisions like this are usually based on statistics of where vehicles are hit, but it still aggravates me

>>170121292
hue, forgot he did that

>>170121623
It does mean you can direct where the enemy shoots you, which means you can form battle tactics and doctrines around that.

Especially since people know these things aren't invincible.

>>170121495
>magically kept upright at all times

>>170121654
>tiny fov, can't see shit

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>>170121826
>magic

yeah like how spengies has magic thrusters which move you in whatever direction regardless of your center of mass

>tiny FOV

then change it, wow it's like you can build stuff

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>>170121938
>yeah like how spengies has magic thrusters which move you in whatever direction regardless of your center of mass


Not talking about that shitstorm, anon, why are you behaving so defensively? Is it because machinecuck is shit?

>>170121589
Make sure to add AI to both halves, therefore if it gets split in half it becomes 2 ships, don't know ho w well they'll work though.

>>170081364
Not very well. "get them before they get you" works pretty well on the trebuchet though, it's basically a huge bomb.

>>170087739
The only solution is large fuel efficient engines or maybe rtgs I haven't tried those.

>>170087956
Yep.

>>170088136
4. but I hear a continuous zero switch lasers works better for lams, though less power efficient

>>170121589
shieeet I missed it again

>>170115251
I'd love to contribute but I just started sinking my teeth into FtD and only managed to put together a functional (as in can kill the spawned "boss" in reasonable time) CRAM cannon and fiddle with the mainframe during the story missions as of yet.

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>>170116416
>>170117887
Tank physics in games are fun.

>>170123064
H-he's fast!

>>170086101
> You mean a track shouldn't be used to go both ways?
Yup. As soon as you have more than one train on that track, making it so they don't crash and don't deadlock will be an issue. The difficulty increases exponentially (or at least it seems like it) with the number of trains.

If you look at the pic in >>170072023, none of those rails are bi-directional. Rails which are parallel and close together are running the same way.

There's three large loops there, all counter-clockwise: one to the north, one around the lake and power station, one to the south. In the southern loop, almost every vertical line runs north-to-south except for that cluster in the lower-right and one line near iron mine 5 (which is basically a short-cut so that trains don't have to go all the way back around the lake loop if they want to visit another station).

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She's a beast! She's murderous!
A couple issues though:
Her turning speed is comet-like. By which I mean she needs an entire solar system to turn around.
Because she can't corner worth shit, her fore CRAM guns and her mines are never ever going to get a chance to fire.

How should we try to fix this? We don't have much engine power! We do have some space on the aft deck and underneath we could use, and we could remove some forwards thrust if really needed.

>>170122161
Alas, that doesn't work. THANKS NICK.

>>170122660
>shieeet I missed it again
Not to fear, there's still some ENGINEERING to do on this bitch!

>>170122664
Even just "ADD STEAM ENGINES!" or "LAAAAASER!" is good. I'm the guy who has to figure out how to implement it, you can just throw ideas at me.

>>170124324
Maybe a lot of aircraft tailfins in the empty space between the two hulls would turn it. Somehwere they won't cause too much drag.

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Is there any reason to sperg over engine efficiency in FTD or is it one of those game mechanics that just werk no matter how badly you try to fuck up

>roommates decide to start playing robocraft
>start playing with them
>start to have fun
the new gamemode changes make it decent again, crates are still unforgivable though

>>170123064
>2tank2furious

>>170121623
>it aggravates me that designers aren't inflating the production costs by armouring areas that typically take fewer hits
Am I reading you right?

>>170125790
Only if you play campaign mode, adventure mode, or any kind of competitive play with arbitrary limits on resources.

For just messing around in the vehicle designer there's no reason to care about efficiency, if the craft runs out of fuel just delete it and spawn in another one.

>>170125790
its pretty easy to make one that puts out the power you need and doesnt guzzle all your fuel. and you dont really need to care about great fuel efficiency unless you're playing that adventure mode or you plan on sticking energy weapons on everything.

>>170126310
From my perspective I'm seeing entire sides not covered, I wouldn't expect only the front to be the most likely to be hit (i.e. most people would at least try to get behind a target).
Are people really usually stupid enough to target the front of a tank?

https://youtu.be/WD_76OL1laE

>"Its like Minecraft but with X"

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Managed to squeeze in some more engine power. Between the new turning jets and the tail, it's turning adequately now.

PAINT TIME.
Name a part, name a color or pattern.

>>170128536
Yellow and red checkerboard. Hull.

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>>170126894
please tell me he got rid of this minecraft steve face

>>170128723
Nope

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>>170128723
>implying his end game isn't to sap off of minecraft

>>170128806
this desu
he wants the game extremely simple. Simpler than Minecraft and Starcraft. We need to find another game to support instead of his.

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>>170128912
I don't know if this is true, but its scary enough to hop off the hype train and just watch warily.

Anyone played LogicBots? Worth getting?

>>170128986
It's true. He wants everything as uncomplicated as possible. Ship flying will be boring too.

>>170129131
There's no point in making baseless assumptions based on fear. Just wait and see. If you're right, whoopdedoo, if you're wrong, pleasantly surprised.

>>170129207
>Dev says wants simple
>Baseless assumptions
>>>/leddit/

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I was chocking up the rattle to the terrain, but now that I'm in Flat idk. I just built this really basic buggy, but it's rattling a ton and pulling the left. It's mostly symmetrical, so I have no idea.

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>>170129449
Drive seat is a bit heavier than passenger seat.
Drop a couple of heavy blocks near the passenger seat to help balance it.

Fuck. I was excited for skywanderers too.

SPACE ENGINEERS
BUT
NOT SHIT

Why is this so hard to understand? Why do they all have to chase the tard audience?

>>170129364
>Ship flying will be boring too.
You don't know this. You have no evidence to support this and I have none to refute this, there is no method to prove either case yet and is therefore not worth discussing. Simple doesn't mean boring in any case.

>He wants everything as uncomplicated as possible.
Spengies is pretty complicated, doesn't mean anything about it is good. Hell, if its only marginally more complex than starmade it will still be really simple, dispite having functional moving shit.

>>>/leddit/
>le fake corsspost xxxDDD
C'mon man, you're smarter than that. Shouldn't you be shrieking I'm a shill?

>>170129738
>Shouldn't you be shrieking I'm a shill?
Nah I'm saving that for after they put up the kickstarter

>>170129879
Fair enough.

>>170129672
Good. Don't be excited, just maintain interest and follow along. Hype is cancer.

>>170129364
Simple by what metric? More simple than CHODE or similar games is still more complex than Spengo.

>>170129981
More simple than ChoDE is more simple than everything except maybe Dorf Fort and Aurora 4x.

>>170126530
>From my perspective I'm seeing entire sides not covered
Remember that armour costs money and tonnage, both of which are serious restrictions.
This isn't FtD where everything is free.

>Are people really usually stupid enough to target the front of a tank?
Perhaps the tank drivers are just smart enough to not get hit from the sides or rear.
Do you also believe that infantry should forgo the chest plate carrier, and instead adopt full-body ceramic suits?

>>170129981
Abortion does and will have more complex flight

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>>170130040
>df
>not simple

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>>170128651
HULL PAINTED

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>>170130096
>Blood cannon
Hey hang on, I didn't know moving objects (that aren't entities) have physics in DF

>>170130262
This doesn't work because blood isn't considered a liquid in df.

You could do it with water or blood-infused water though no problem

>>170130239
It now goes faster and flies better, your welcome. Now the center structure needs to be painted black, to avoid detection and fool the enemy into thinking there are two smaller ships instead of one larger one.

>>170130325
Piss.
Could the machines be used to pump water (or other readily-available liquid) to a cannon?

>>170130096
>>170130262
>blood cannons
someone tell /pol/

you could win all the wars in the middle east and solve the immigration problem with the help of pig farmers

>>170130096
Does anybody have that df greentext where the guy made a giant pit and zoned all the dwarves who worship a god of gold and wealth to live there, then a monster that emits toxic gas came along and fell into a pit, and he dug another tunnel to bring the gas into the gold dwarf place to gas the jews?

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>>170130370
BLACKFACE APPLIED

>>170130736
To prevent the enemy from getting too scared and running off, we should paint the guns family friendly bright pink and blue.

>>170130736
Where's the bridge?

>>170130958
It's a tiny compartment in the aft with barely enough room to stand, no way in or out, and a "flower".

>>170131252
You need a bomb inside it too. Retrofit please.

>>170130325
You gotta be fucking kidding me.

You can actually build generators and shit in df.

how fucking deep does this game go and where the fuck do I learn to play it

>>170131448
There exists a 4-bit computer made using fluid logic. Or was it 8 bit?

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>>170131448
>and where the fuck do I learn to play it
Hop over to /dfg/ and check the OP. Or youtube it if reading is for faggots.

>>170131518
I've seen both.

Oops!

>>170131448
It's the deepest and best game but you need some kind of MAGI supercomputer to run it at more than 5 fps with a couple hundred dorfs last time I checked

>>170131847
>yfw economy kicks in and the entire mountainhome goes to shit

>>170131945
Is there any way to put up a trump wall or something to stop all the fucking immigrants? If the population stayed around 100-150 I could play the fucking game but they never stop coming

>>170129449
all the terrain is bumpy, u can test this by making a road out of blocks, and you will notice 0(zero) rattling, i guess the devs made ithe terrain like that to simulate real terrain, also pulling to sides is a result of rear wheel drive in this game, front wheel drive is better because you also avoid front wheels having low traction when turning because of the front raising to torque