/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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La Plata

how do we fix hoi4?

>>168073987
Just play KR. Speaking of which, is HoI IV worth it, or should I wait for a sale?

>>168073705
Literally kill yourself.

>>168074032
I wonder if popular right wing sentiment (le pen, trump, brexit) will actually become the predominant viewpoint in the west or if it will still be (((progressive))) until our inevitable destruction.

>>168073712
Based

>>168074251
But in what game

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>>168073108

Nah, i don't think so, all my Muslims are people who were already Muslims and in 70 years not a single Christian has converted. Maybe it's possible with other countries tho.

There's definitely some sort of mechanic in terms of growth of minorities that are similar to your primary culture tho, i think i said it earlier in this thread but Bosniaks in my country grow like rabbits and migrate/populate provinces they were never in before.

>>168073812

south Serbia is Albanian clay boyo, i needed that lebensraum space, my country is getting WAY too crowded.

>>168074078
Alright, thanks, my HoI3 base game was fucked up so I;m fixing it, shouldn't be more than 15 minutes.

Where do I put the podcat lua?

>>168074423
>Centrist Moderates
Radical centrism in the next updates confirmed

>>168074417
Modern day mod.

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Based Erdogan

yeehaw

elo buds

yeeeehaw

>>168074417
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>168074423
I wish there was a 1948 start date so you could play as israel, both Germanies, and the DPRK.

are we being raided?

>>168074962
Just play as Brunei for 2 years you self-entitled nigger.

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>when you forget to add them back to the sphere

btw, that one factory produces more fabric than all of England, and almost more than I do.

>>168075048
Vikings were the Jews of the 10th century.

>>168074423

By the way, can someone redpill me on what measures - economic or otherwise - i can take to rile up minorities as much as possible? I want to provoke revolts so i can kill all the rebels. Recently I had a 300k strong Bulgarian revolt and destroying the army dropped the pop of Bulgarians like 1.5%, shit was baller.

>>168074962

AFAIK in my game DDR and best Korea formed really fast either way but yeah might be a little annoying to setup for mp.

>>168075095
>cheating

>>168075257
This 2bh

m&t 2 when?????????????????????????????????

may yohan have mercy on /gsg/

>>168075429
>history is offensive: the mod

meow and talex will single handedly save /gsg/

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Recommend me mods similar to pic related, doesn't need to be Yugoslavia, just extremely realistic with thousands of provinces.

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>>168075930
EU4 goy!

>>168075429
They want to show it at cuckcon, so post may.

>MEIOU and Taxes considers Burgundians to be part of the Dutch culture group

What did they mean by this...

>>168074510
Alright, its done, where do I put the .exe?

>>168076093
Nevermind, got it, it's all good.

You already started, right?

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What is a good Let's Play on Hearts of Iron 3? I understand the mechanics, but not really the strategy/tactics. I want to see an experienced and skilled player in action.

>>168074134
>Is HoI IV worth it
In my opinion, no. Maybe in the future after Johan jewed it full of DLC, but not now.

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Why can't we have a game that covers even part of EU4's time period with the depth of Vicky 2? I'm reading about the reformation and it just upsets me when I think of how so little EU even tries to represent.
Why can't a team of turbo autists step up and save up from Paradox?

>>168075497
>>168076005
not an argument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfxtOzN-2t8

Looking for someone to play EU4 with.

>DLCs I have :

>Art of War
>Cossacks
>Common Sense

No real requirements, just be able to speak like a normal human being and we should be fine.

Amanite#3408 on Discord

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Amanite/ on Steam

>>168076840
MEIOU would be a viable mod if it didn't take five minutes for a month to pass

>>168076840
>lags in THEIR OWN FUCKING demo
Fuck off, gigau.

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>>168075123
wrong!

>the strengthen government focus for france gives only 73 national unity
this really bothers me that is isn't a round number like 75 or 70

>>168077043
>>168077008
the preview video doesn't lag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OSbub4zH_M

>>168076940
pirate the rest of the dlcs senpai

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It's a lot of hard work to make a benin this ebin let me tell you what

>>168077280
:-DDDD

If you lads rehost make sure to wait a bit so I can join

Is there an mp game right now?

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Current cultural state of the Empire

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>>168077812
Current physical empire

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Religious state

>Schismatics got BTFO by Schismatics 2.0
>Also that fucking Moroccan pocket in Iberia which the AI has yet to fix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JprsLXO0V04

This track moves me, Waldetoft is a great composer.

>Tfw you will never be as much of a patriot as the japanese soldiers of ww2 were

>>168077994

>S&P

I cum every time I see that glorious color

>>168078917
sometimes the AI can do amazing things when left alone

See also: The Coptic invasion of Arabia

>tfw still no rehost

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>>168078720
waldetoft is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH_oNVzSdus

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>>168078720
>Tfw you will never be as much of a patriot as the japanese soldiers of ww2 were
>not being an ultranationalist
lad

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Meanwhile in the new world, Montevedio is the highest developed province by a large margine (44 Development, that's only 1 below Paris. Second place is the Island of Guadelupe, capital of Portugese Carribas, at 37 development) and the capital of Castillian La Plata

>Buenos Aries will NEVER be able to compete

>>168073705
Where to get this day in history info

>>168080026
Wikipedia the date.

>>168079503
The V2 soundtrack will always be the best.

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Is this the part where I blob all the way to Siberia because I can?

>>168081065
How does one become the Danubian Federation?

>>168081162

>Pass reforms until Constitutional Monarchy
>become a kuk
>Research Rev-Counter Rev
>Research Social Science
>have low militancy and save scum unless you want satellite states

Can you guys rehost already? I want to get gross hungariums

is stellaris grand strategy yet?

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One brave cuck fights his way through a gang of niggers

>>168082026
it is and always has been. post it here if you want and it will be fine, its only the autists from the summer of 2016 who hated it here

>>168082225
>implying you'll win
You'd better mobilise, son.

>>168082026
I feel that in its current state, it wouldn't really classify as gs, but with Utopia, it'll be much closer than it was before.

How do I even play as Jewish in 1066AD, I honestly cant seem to find a jewish state in CK2 and I dont wanna custom create.

>>168082620
there is one in the caucasus and one in ethiopia

>>168082359

Dont need to mobilize, its just a slow process of playing the game 2 to make sure I catch them every time they cross the border into my territory and slaughter their stacks.

They are running into rank 4 forts.

>>168081065
>changeowner-ing parts of Switzerland to you

for shame anon

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How redpilled is this Europe?

>>168081065
>cheating

>>168081065
why no serbia or bulgaria?

>>168082620
Theres one or two ones in ethipoia I think.

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>>168082773
what did he mean by this?

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>>168082804
Zoom

>>168082804
>>168082961
truly epic
t. epic things pro

are liquor factories good in vic2?

>>168082961
>DNSR

>>168082961
>puke green DNSR

>>168082804
>Germany
>East Germany
>West Germany
>Austria is just Tirol
What am I looking at

>>168082773

??? Whatcha talking about?

>>168082813

I did some clean up after the Turk event that carves up their empire in the Balkans because it was disgusting. Nothing too extreme. Kept Bosnia to the territory of Bosnia, expanded the monteniggers to the rest of their territory (that they lost to Bosniaks anyways), Gave Serbia southern Serbia (it only got half of it), gave Bulgaria the parts of its cores that Moldavia (which I had deleted earlier) spawned with, and split the non-core with Russia. Gave greece Janina that it did not get.

>>168082828

I like Bulgaria as a buffer state. I really wanted Greece and Bulgaria to expand or ask me to expand for them but they never did.

>>168082684
>>168082829
Whats a good starting gameplan for them? Seems very small and in a dangerous area.

>>168082829
>>168083286
>>168082620

Custom create a jewish republic owner in Frankfurt etc.

>>168083286
the problem with playing in ethiopia is that unless u get extremely lucky u will eventually just get fucked by the muslims/arabians, and you will have a rough start anyways because you're surrounded by different religions.

so i'd suggest caucasus then try to settle somewhere since I think you're a nomad.

>>168082708
The best part is because you're already at war with pretty much everyone you can add as many wargoals as you like and go over the infamy limit.
Shame you don't have a lad on your side to make it a great war, you could take all of Ukraine.

>>168083634

Actually it is a great war, Japan was allied with me but did not partake in the crisis resolution. Actually, lads are right. I can't take this war because Germany has gas attack and mine hasn't been researched yet or defense. I guess I probably will have to go back to 1900 and beeline the military techs.

>>168084027
theres a higher chance to invent gas defense if you're at war with someone with gas attack

>>168084027
See
>>168084112

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>>168078720
>>168079503
He's pretty gud, and yeah that's one of his best tracks imo. Another of his best is Stonemasons from EUIV. It really provided the great segue from the classic EUIII theme. I still remember how good and pumped it made me feel when I first heard it. When EUIV was good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdH1XMXCsmU

That said, some of the other music artists around that they had did good too. One of my favorites was from the V2 Civil War pack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quP_YS4fan0

>>168079881
Iron man or no

>>168084262
>>168084112

so what, play the D and try to tough it out in the early war and hope Nippon invades the british isles to steal their Cadburries?

>>168084427
>When EUIV was good.
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>168084589
Just mobilise and throw 100:1 odds into every battle, then when you get GA and GD you can demobilise and devour the corpse.

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Are you guys ready?

>>168084796
>not just using the puppets to rek others

>>168084796
Show religion map.

>>168084696

Sounds annoying. Gonna try to knock out Italy and Russia. France doesn't seem to have any troops in their motherland, but I am not pushing on for Elsass yet.

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>>168084796
:^)))))))))))))

>>168084891
>Implying that's not what I've been doing the last 100 years

what retinues do i use as nomads? (HIP)

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>>168084952

>>168085053
>doesn't own prussia
Fucking delet this

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>>168085265

>>168085265
gib save, this would be p ebin in v2

>>168085265
>protestant britain
Based.
>no use for missionaries post 1700
They should let you post them to provinces of your religion for - unrest.

>Win numerous battles
>3-5 war score a battle
>70k plus causalities on their side
>lose a battle
>one army of 30k lost
>-15 war score

???

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>>168085269
Commonwealth is in a personal union under me, so I'll be able to integrate them in ~10 years.

Any final goals to go for during the final 20 years?

>>168086313
Give Portugal their clay back.

>>168086313

Take back the other three traditional homes of early Christianity
>Antioch
>Jerusalem
>Alexandria

>>168086313
Feed Georgia the Caucasus. Also that's an impressive Tabarestan.

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Hey guys, just wanted to say that I'm sorry that I didn't get to do as many flags as I had planned today. Turns out the day before departure is the busiest.

Just as a reminder, tomorrow I'll be leaving for China, to return here on the first of August or so. While in China, due to tight schedule and whatnot I will likely not post, and maybe not even lurk most of the time, so assume I don't even come here until August. If I need to post something really important for some reason, I'll have a friend from abroad do it for me.

So this is basically good bye until then. Thank you all for your support of my autistic project. I wouldn't have been doing this for almost three years had it not been for you.

See you in August.

>>168086651
>going to China for six months
My sympathies lad.

>>168086651
you're gay

>>168084796
>only 44 princes instead of 144

>>168086651
it hurts so much
Why are all the modders going to "university" in "China"?

>>168086313
take Jutland

>>168086651
Zombiemod guy here, thanks for everything you've done for the mod

>>168086929
The Chinese are assembling a team of turbo-autists to build the ultimate Vicky mod and use it as a bargaining chip against the US.

>>168086313
E V R O P A
V
R
P
S

>>168086651
;_; bye afpg, you were our last quality poster

>>168086651

When will the Chinese quit stealing out star talent?
HPM is kept in a chinese bathhouse getting his cock worshipped by the hmong peasants instead of raising the next generation of tacticians.

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lmfao

WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED

Whats the NWO overhaul people say I should download? What does it change and where should I download it

>>168086651
ill miss you

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wow, CWE is pretty redpilled. note the ruling party and the type of rebels.

>>168088303
why not just play hoi

>>168088647
because HoI doesn't have pops or politics and gets boring fast (though 3 is a good wargame)

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what the fuck

>>168088990
why not just play steampunk zombie mod

>>168088647

Pretty boring past the war, if i wanna play a long and DH is better anyway.

>>168086313
Portugal, Crete, and Cyprus imo

>>168089224
Typically things stop hurting when you die.

>>168087574
Merkel

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>>168087962
But what if mom likes map painting games too? What if mom is the one who introduced me to map painting games?

>>168089406
It used to be extremely painful.

>>168089224
The game probably processes death calculations before events or something like that, so since they both happened on the same day it decides you're dead before it can include the fact that you no longer have that condition

>>168089518
>>168089406
Makes sense

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>>168089518
>>168089576
So I clicked the event, thus removing the trait and fucking with the game's localization since the trait that killed him can no longer be referenced.

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Hey /gsg/, how did I do for my first game?

>>168089849
post development

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>>168089897

>>168090019
Fucking abysmal.

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>>168090287
I never said I was playing tall

>>168090409
>not moving your capital to amerikkka so you could directly own all that shit
See
>>168090287

>>168090509
But then I can't do the Prussian 12 province meme strat.

>>168090614
>Prussian 12 province meme strat.
???

>>168090409
>not naming your colonies
see >>168090287

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>>168090646
Some autist calculated how many provinces you could have as Prussia and be able to perpetually stay at 100% and it was like 12-14

>>168090740
>Accepted cultures
>Irish
that's based and all but wtf?

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>>168090709
Give me names and I'll change them

>>168090740

What is it about Prussia that makes every autist so obsessed with it? Literally just because it's easy as fuck?

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rate my roman empire

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>>168090895
Because it's a fucking interesting place you pleb nigger

>>168090985
>(((roman)))
"no"

>>168079881
HOW?

>>168085053
wtf 3 romes

what does playing "tall" mean?

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>>168090740
Where?
>>168090895
Because it beat literally everyone despite having a fraction of each individual nation's resources, what it did was nothing short of legendary. Simply beating Austria would have been cool, as they were 10 times the size, but they beat Austria, France and Russia.
https://youtu.be/5SWTSPFT2ls
>>168090740
These aren't really worth much, 10 discipline is only what you get from quality ideas, it should be 25, to truly represent Prussia.

>playing france
>cannot station troops all along the german and belgian border
>when belgium capitulates it all goes to spaghetti and all the army dudes leave their provinces to go somewhere else letting germans over the border
W H Y ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Why can I not have a single army station all their troops along the borders of multiple countries? Why do I have to split up all the army groups because their stupid fucking code prevents it from happening?

>>168091186
Putting resources into turning a smaller nation or region into a more prosperous and valuable region. Sometimes it is all you can do if you can't expand. Although it is almost always inferior to playing 'wide' ie blobbing.

>>168091468
It's pretty much pointless/impossible in EU4 as well, due to cumulative development costing more mana, so you can either be a backwards shithole with more developement or up to date on tech and never develop anything.

Playing tall in Vicky with factories and such is fun though.

>>168090868
That was how I was the first person in the Americas. Note Clanicrade is my March (Been meaning to feed him the rest of Ireland but have had other priorities)

>>168091352
It's actually unplayable as France because your dudes on the borders just go full spaghetti and refuse to actually do anything.

>>168090740
Your forts are laid out shit, if you had a level 8 in marienburg and a level 8 in Konigsburg all your provinces would be under it and they'd be near enough impossible foe the AI to siege.

>>168092350
Those are the starting forts. I haven't had anything happen in Europe until very late game, but I'll adjust that now that I'm really fixing the homeland.

>>168091186
Playing as New York City instead of Central Siberia

>>168092483
Build a manufactory/university in eveey province before the institution spawns so you don't have to waste money teching up.

>>168090740
How strong are you though? Could you beat Poland-Lithuania with that?

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>Muscovy will probably eat them anyway

;_;

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>>168093380
then go over there and kixk their asses

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>>168091346

Alright lads. Everything north of Switzerland is a puppet state. Catalonia/Portugal are puppets. Spheres on everything else.

>tfw truced with almost all of europe

so this is the path of infamy

>>168092583
I was, though I don't remember how early I did. Institutions still spread terribly slowly until the last couple.

>>168093746
How did you puppet all those niggers?
>no form westphalia decision
FUCKING AITCH PEE EM REEEEEEEE

>>168093939
answer >>168092974

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>>168093702
Just getting started on France, if I get to there I promise I'll save them

France has Hungary and Savoy (and Siena), you think I could take them all with Austria or should I just declare on Savoy to break up France and Hungary?

>>168093746
Puppet Bavaria and S-P.

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>>168094092
>>168092974
Probably. I spent a lot of energy trying to cuck Europe out of trade by diverting everything to Chesapeake and collecting there, but I got kind of fucked by not paying attention to how much land Portugal and France were grabbing in the two most important nodes. I made sure I had a strong ally all game, and was in the HRE for early game protection. I tend to run out of manpower, but I can kill anyone pretty easily as long as it isn't France with their fucking retarded Elan.

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>>168094092
>>168094202

>how did you puppet all of those niggers

I went to war with the NGF by attacking Frankfurt when NGF had a truce with me and he brought all his little states in. So after wrecking the NGF I took Westfalen from him and puppeted nearly all of west germany. released everything beyond the rhine as satellites or puppeted the rest. only oldenburg stayed neutral.

>puppet Bav/S-P

can't really do that boss.

>>168094431
You can, you just need to declare war for dismantle forts or some shit, fully occupy them until they drop, then puppet.

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>>168094431

>perfidious albion getting cucked this hard

ahhh yes

What happened to HPM? Does he ever post anymore?

>>168094868
I'd like to ask him why it doesn't fucking work.

>>168094868
He posted last thread
Also in like December he said he'd be gone a while for some reason or a another, I think he'll be back at some point

>>168094431
>I went to war with the NGF by attacking Frankfurt when NGF had a truce with me and he brought all his little states in. So after wrecking the NGF I took Westfalen from him and puppeted nearly all of west germany. released everything beyond the rhine as satellites or puppeted the rest. only oldenburg stayed neutral.
What?

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>>168093746
You do know the Rhine goes east, under Baden, right?

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>>168095370

What I mean is like image related. NGF is going to bring Oldenburg into the war. I'm beyond infamy limit, so I just add puppet cbs to every minor in the war and separate peace them.

>>168095528

Yeah, but I'm going for this instead of being a blob lord like yourself.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/First_French_Empire_1812.svg

I'll puppet Switzerland later.

I just really dislike the Catalonia borders though. What the fuck was Napoleon thinking?

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tfw no stronk islamic third rome to colonize afrika with allah's chosen caucasian race

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>>168095886

>tfw you kill so many enemies of france you're a max prestige attack general

god speed

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>>168095886
f-fuck you get your trash ass klein empire out of here

>>168096047
>greece
>blobbing into china but not taking macau or hongkong
>somaliland

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>>168096090

Come on, lad. You stole back clay you sold fairly to the Americans and you didn't even rescue your French Canadien kin in Quebec.

>letting america bully mexico when historically france propped up the empire of mexico

any ausfags want to play an ck2>eu4 campaign?
can host irregularly, with shit internet.

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>>168096313
That's just guandong. Everything dark green is my puppet

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>>168096047
>Third Rome
>Doesn't own Rome

>>168097016
>only owns one of the three romes

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>>168096579
Québécois are traitors for siding with the Anglo.

I bet you didn't even make Africa a white man's colony.

>>168097164
How is muscow even a rome? Only the roman emperor can move the capital

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>>168097389
>not making brown people serve you with globalism and capitalism

kek, enjoy picking crops in white man's africa jean

>>168097628
There are enough left, just not enough to be subverted by communist Jews and overthrow white rule.

>>168097628
>allowing brown people to exist
only the first of your many mistakes

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>>168097389
>>168096579

I haven't gotten to Africa memes yet. I decided to go badboy in like the 1840s/50s.

>herro we arreuu worrrduu powarr nowwuu

LADS

POST YOUR MOST DISGUSTING BLOBS

GO

>>168098132
Woah, dude, your racism is not acceptable here. We just come to have a good time and then we see this, do you have any idea how it makes others feel?

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>>168098132

>tfw you save mexico from hamburger invasion

>>168098570
I was with you until you helped the beaners

>>168098134

People hate kuk blobs for some reason. I hate the colour, contrasts too much with Britain. If there was border demarque colours that would be nice but my colonies in Africa touch cocks with Britain and I cant tell where mine ends and theirs begin.

>African organized nations
>your primary culture
>civilized
should I release them?

>>168098752
>kuk
LOL

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>>168098134
This one was fucking terrible I took California, large parts of china, some random arctic clay from Russia, and part of Patagonia

>>168098817
Fuck you.
>>168098752
That's because you're supposed to stay as Austria.
>>African organized nations
>>your primary culture
>>civilized
>should I release them?
Only if whites make up at least 10% of the pops there otherwise it'll fail instantaneously.

>>168098570
>helping beaners against the white man
>not joining with the Americans to cuck the Anglo for all of time
fuck you

>tfw emojies don't work

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>>168098134
not my großest germany but it's something

>>168098919

Maybe down the line I will do a Reverse Germ game for one in my life, I would want to maximize the amount of my minors access to ports so I could feed them small overseas colonies.

>Give Croatia Libya
>Give Romania part of the holy land etc

>>168099029
I remember this, you were the only good poster in the thread, everyone else were grandiquor posters.

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Are these the correct rebels to flip to revolutionary? Says they just want a constitutional monarchy.

>>168099506
They have to be through the crisis.

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No one told me beyond typus had memes of this magnitude.

>>168099327
thx bb. I would have kept posting but i had a BSoD and lost my motivation to play v2 for a while

>>168099832
Holy shit, is this really typhus? I was going to use that shit, I thought it was respectable. Sad!

Ck2 multiplayer:

Im trying to vassalize friend but hes a kingdom rank like me (gonna need him for empire)

Can/should I subjugate or usurp him?

>>168091681
Did the Albanians colonize that much?

>>168091681
Yea

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>>168099832
>>168099979
It's Shattered Europa m8s

Cthulhu isn't in normal Beyond Typus

Speaking of Shattered, how should I approach the Caucasus? I plan on having a Georgian march, but how much land should I give it?

>>168100505
Up to that natural border.

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>>168101073
Like this, I assume?

Purple is the border of the empire proper

>>168101594
>not going muh alexander into greece

Is there ever a point to get maritime or naval ideas in EU4? I feel like theres no problem that couldnt be solved with more ships.

>>168101818
No

>>168101818
The one that gives + naval forcelimit is good for trade ships, but you can just conquer shit.

>>168101818
england and maybe japan if your shit and cant take on france and ming respectively?

>>168092350
>ai giving a shit about forts
Are playing the same game?

Ne1?
>>168100154

>>168102603
The zone of control in terms of blocking doesn't work, obviously, the AI just walks where it likes, but it works in terms of occupation. If they occupy any province it will flip back because of the fort, because those two provinces border all of his provinces he only needs forts there and the ZoC covers his other provinces.

>>168102735
from what i hear from leddit
AI can bypass ZoC if and only if there is another valid path through to where it wants to go that isnt blocked by ZoC. So in the prussia autists game, they couldnt walk though ZoC if he had the 2 forts needed to block it.

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>>168098718
>>168098950

>The Mexican Empire (Spanish: Imperio Mexicano) or Second Mexican Empire (Spanish: Segundo Imperio Mexicano) was the name of Mexico under a limited hereditary monarchy declared by the Assembly of Notables on July 10, 1863, during the Second French intervention in Mexico. It was created with the support of Napoleon III of France, who attempted to establish a monarchist ally in the Americas. A referendum confirmed the coronation of the Austrian Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian, of the House of Habsburg as Emperor Maximilian I of Mexico.

>he would rather republics rule over absolutism

beaners or not they are curbing the perfidious anglosphere.

in other news, I finally get another chance to breathe after having cucked the germans once again. been only doing some minor changeownering on the german states that don't get cores on NGF territory within their state. sometimes I can't release them as a vassal at all (thanks HPM).

I need to curbstomp S-P soon and set up more vassals in Italy before he becomes too strong. Puppet map inc.

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>>168103085

Everything on mainland Europe is a puppet except in Italy and Poland. Iberia is completely subjugated so my southern front is finally secure. My biggest problem now honestly is my navy got trashed by some monitors and my boat tech has been slow because of my army tech rush. I have no way to get to Russia at the moment and I can feel England revving up his frog stomper.

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>yedistanian yedistan
wat

>>168103272
>exporting grain
>not liquor
>2nd in industry
NOOOOOOOOOOOBB GET OFF MY BOARD REEEEEE
>>>/leddit/

>>168103184

Explanation of what happened here.

Carolingian Francia conquered Hispania and then they dismantled to civil wars.

Then the mongols invaded like in here

>>168102838

Also yes the mongols were Sunni

>>168102709

Did anyone else get back into Stellaris after watching The Expanse? Shame there's no mod like it for the game. Even worse is that the game doesn't take into account that species eventually "diverge" enough to no longer be culturally/biologically similar.

>>168103028
Then they just get military access because Paradox can't code for shit.

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How do I fix Europe

Do people still play EU3?

I liked it much better.

Minting and tech sliders >>> casualized RPG

>>168103579
Hellnistc states everywere. That mod is hilariously broken the Eysians are broke as all hell I mean really I recall having like +30% tax 4 colonists 15% disipline all built in. Also the mid game was boring the whole part of the game after you dont care about tribes till the invasion of europe.

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Should I attack any side?

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So I've beat back every asshole who wanted to dismantle me.

When do these shitty debuffs stop?

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r8 my Europe

>>168106984
no/10

yeehaw

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>>168106961

based as fuck.

napoleon would be proud.

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>>168107429
Why?

>>168101818
maritime get you access to the thalassocracy decision for a merchant and some boost. the modifier is permanent so you can scrap the idea after taking it.

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Not long until I have my heartland boarders under control. I need sicily and napoleon-island corsica too though. I guess a war against the Spaniols is inevetable.

In HPM does the immigration bonus that new world nations get depend on being a republic?
Or will I get the same immigration if I switch to monarchy?

>>168106984
This looks hideous to be honest. But what's your plan? Is Brandenburg your vassal?

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>Pomerania formed Prussia

>>168108489
What's wrong with your screen?

>>168108630
idk memes

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>austria
>get PU over Bohemia
>Every elector gets a -50 HRE elector bonus with me
>brandeburg is now the elector
>burgundy inheritance fires
>brandeburg inherits burgundy

JUST

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Same province got two of them. Since it's London I can believe this.

>>168108886
based

>>168096047
>Turks
>Caucasian

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>>168109579
Blackest man alive

>>168106961
>60% liberal

Have sex.

>>168103417
>Also yes the mongols were Sunni
The real reason why their empire collapsed.

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>>168109579
Literally african-american

>>168109646
>>168109736
They're obvious Arabs. Arabs are not Caucasian. They are Caucasoid, but that's different. It's like how bears are Caniforms, but are not canines.

>>168109792
That's a really bad analogy.

>>168109792
Unless you're cherrypicking eastern Anatolians, turks have the same genetic makeup as Greeks who are definitely white. Mediterranean in general == white

>>168109996
>turks have the same genetic makeup as Greeks
I don't believe this. Show me the proof.

Also, mediterranean is semi-white.

>>168110073
>mediterranean is semi-white
lol kys

>>168109989
Would you have preferred the canine/canidae distinction? I wanted to leave more room in my analogy so I could fit other Indo-Europeans into the caindae slot as they're more closely related than Arabs.

>>168109996
>turks have
Predominately Arab with Turkic admixture. The Anatolians were largely genocided with the invasion of Islam.

Also you realize the term Mediterranean can be used to refer to the ENTIRE coast of the sea, right? Including Syria, Jerusalem, Egypt, and all down the North African coast to fucking Morocco?

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>>168110073
>Also, mediterranean is semi-white.

WE

>>168110131
Like, while Mediterranean Europeans are white, Mediterranean Middle Easterners and North Africans are not.

>>168110131
canine/canidae or caniforms/canines is too different to fit as an analogy of something that is so similar as turks and europeans. I'd rather you found some analogy about grey wolves in scandinavia and grey wolves in america, for example.

>>168110227
>so similar as turks and europeans
People with dark skin, strange hairy foreheads, sunken eyes, and massive noses are similar to Europeans to you?

>>168110142
Sure, mediterranean people did great things. But they are semi-white. Semi-white people did great things, but they weren't all white. It's not a problem, I just don't regard mediterranean in general as white.

>>168110282
>I just don't regard mediterranean in general as white

And go knows your opinion is valued.

>>168110282
Anon, see >>168110175

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>>168110131
>admixture
Back in fucking 1880 over here.

>>168110268
Yes. Your analogy is misplaced. I don't mean this to sound like SJW-crap, but right should be right.

>>168110506
I'm so sorry, xer. What's the politically correct term for them having Turkic blooded mixed into their predominately Arabic background?

>>168110541
>Yes.
Do your eyes work? I just described to you how massively they differ.

in what game?

>>168110572
>comparing humans who can breed, donate blood and organs to each others to wholly different species

Yeah no, you clearly are clueless, better stop embarassing yourself.

>>168110632
Get with the times, different species can breed together now. The lines are getting all blurry because people don't want to reclassify a bunch of salamanders and shit.

>>168110572
>massively
Not in the same way your analogy would suggest. Hence my attacking your analogy and not your actual point.

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>>168110686
>polygenists this asshurt
Polygenesis was literally proven wrong in the 1800s, and ALL the records--fossil, genetic, etc.--support that conclusion. Interbreeding just seals it.

Just because you're worried Tyrone is going to come steal your girl doesn't change the fact that Tyrone has 99.5% of the same DNA you do. :^)

>>168110745
You do know that's a textbook debating failure, right? It doesn't even really matter. The comparison is just to give you an idea, one label is for a narrower sub-classification of a larger, wider classification. They fit into the later, but not the former. That idea was understood.

>>168110686
>different species can breed together now.
No they can't you mongoloid. At least they can't have an offspring that can reproduce too. That's the very definition of species.

>>168110815
Scientific classification is in all kinds of flux right now.

>>168110769
>Still failing to understand analogies.

Both of you see >>168110790

>>168110845
7/10 actually started to fall for it.

>>168110632
To be fair, homo neanderthalensis and homo sapiens could breed, probably they could've donated blood to each other too. But his analogy is something else entirely.

>>168110790
I'm not debating whatever you were originally debating. I'm just pointing out your analogy is misplaced, nothing else. You can continue your debate and ignore me if you like.

>>168110871
I'm getting the vibe that you might be a turk.

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how far should I blob into spartania tomorrow?

>>168110919
I'm a Frenchman living in Brittany but okay.

>>168110845
>N-n-no! My argument that species can interbreed with one another was an ANALOGY!
Please continue anon, this is precious.

What borders should I go for as Putinist Russia lads?

>>168111097
Oceans

>>168111097
oder to amur

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>>168111097
forgot pic

>>168111097
From Taiga to British seas

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>>168109646
>>168109736
Does this look like a white man to you?

>>168111221
yes
t. expert on whiteness

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>>168111097
Full Dugin, make Eurasia.

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>>168111263
More like t.urk. This man is the average Turk, and they are nothing like Europeans.

>>168109736
Why is that arab wearing a massive onion?

>play america in hoi4
>do the preemptive strike on venezuela thing
>crush them because they don't have dudes on their 2 victory points when I attack
>at the peace conference
>puppet them and nothing else
>peace conference is over
>they didn't get puppeted
>my dudes are exiled in their lands
????????????

Why do Turks want to be white anyway when their culture is more like their Middle Eastern neighbors?

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>tfw have to fuck half of europe to get a male heir because my shitty wife hates me and i have 6 gorillion daughters and the pope wont divorce me and nobody will help me to kill that cunt

>>168109579
>>168109792
T*rks are descended from the T*rkmen from the Oghuz T*rks which had a state between the Caspian and the Aral Seas. They themselves are a remnant from the Mongol hordes. Turkmenistan occupies the region now.
In the 11th century they moved west and invaded Anatolia where they formed the Sultanate of Rum.
Because they were muslim a lot of arabs moved into the lands from the South.
As the Sultanate blobbed into former Byzantine lands they eventually exploded like all of the Muslims blobs into their little dynastic houses, the largest of which was the house of Osman, which for some reason became known as the Ottomans.
As the Ottomans continued blobbing into the Balkans they got a bit race mixey with the slavs and mediterraneans there.

tl;dr ethnically t*rks are a mix of mongol, arab and mediterranean and slav.
probably like 65/35 caucasoid/mongoloid

>>168110282
Most of them were mixed with t*rks in greece and moors in spain and arabs in italy when the muslims invaded those lands

>>168112558
They don't really have a lot of Turk left in them, it certainly isn't reflected in their features. They're predominately caucasoid, but that's pretty much entirely Arab, everything else being genocided for not submitting to Allah.

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AAAAAAAAA

I CAN'T REACH THE REST OF THE TEUTONIC ORDER
The forts basically protect each other and there is no way poland will let me through, I'm stuck in this endless war and they won't accept any peace offer because I don't control any fort in the area

help

k lads

>>168113157
JOHAN PLEASE

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welp, done with this game.

had a lot of fun early on making myself powerful, but unfortunately your industry really suffers due to that god awful international isolation garbage. what's worse is it refreshes and lasts like 30+ years, so even when you're below the infamy limit you're still taking massive WE without the total war buff to off set it.

Even though I'm indomitable on Europe, actually had some money problems and after getting my African colonies I'm pretty fine with where I'm leaving off. Plus some of my puppets were magically becoming GPs at the 10th or 11th slot. Weird.

napoopan would be proud.

also

>african communists everywhere

WHY

>>168110928
Your borders should be modern US + all of Columbia

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Does this event automatically mean my immortality guru is a sham?

>>168113523
kys lad liquor exports only 3rd
>>>/leddit/
not even first in industry and miltary as a broken meme country, good job
uninstall and play something like hoi4 that is build to a level you can play on :)

>>168113157
Why did you cut your screenshot? What are you hiding?

>>168113157
Wait until the fort you take first is fumoving off it