/egg/ Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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first for only you can fight the green menace

second for /seg/ will rise again

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>>167029895
second for you gave me a heart attack, thinking they had managed to infiltrate at the perfect time again.

>>167028607
>Eventually they will find it
Ah no, that's something you should never think when someone's playing a game.
If everything has just stopped progressing (e.g. they can't use the thing you just built) and they are under the impression that it cannot be fixed (e.g. they miss the rotate button), then they will very quickly lose interest and stop playing (i.e. there is no 'eventually').

Especially if they are stupid.

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>>167030018
They could make a UI that informs the user where the planet is, so they can go, also leaving them in a nearby area, isntead of leaving them in front of it.

>>167030090
Naah, where is the INSTANT, FAST PACKED ACTION? Where is the INSTANT GRATIFICATION?

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>>167030090
>mfw I'm playing the new pokemon and they pull this shit with EVERY feature
>mfw I understood the feature the moment they flashed the text for the name of the fucking thing
>mfw I just want to play pokemon with my gf and make perverted comments about the waifu of the week

>>167030090
The only people you can catter with difficult stuff are coders in shit like spengos programing block, or any other coded API.

>>167030309
Games with elongated series like pokemon really need to add a tutorial skip function at this point.

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>>167030215
I'm 92.6% sure elite dangerous does this, though it rarely comes up with how slowly planets orbit.

>>167030381
What about the more challenge based engineering games like Besiege? Or is that the exception?

>>167030180
Give 'em the most retard-friendly UI physically possible and they will still fail to find something.
Might as well have a useful interface for the less retarded audience. Idiots being idiots, they will buy it anyway.

>>167030414
I fucking guarantee the kiddies playing for the first time would just hit skip so they could jump straight into getting fucking wiped out by a Rattata or some shit, get frustrated and quit, bitch to their parents and then we end up here again.

So speaking of programming games using
>java
How hard would it be to convert some of them into C/C++?

Also speaking of programming, why didn't nobody make a C+ already?
Something that is 100% C compatible (C++ isn't), has all of C++ good stuff and none of the bloat/shit?

>>167030563
Never tell them directly it's a skip, just ask if they've played before.
Most kids don't think past 'no I haven't/yes I have' and won't realise it's a skip function.
Kids are dumb.

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>>167030860
>have you played before?
>YEAH I SAW MY BROTHER PLAY ONCE

>>167030563
Just place the "skip tutorial" checkbox in the options.
They never check the options, or if they do, it's usually the graphics tab to change everything in "ultra" for muh 9001fps super hi-res cinematic experience.

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>>167030443
Look at the games... they are pure empty sandboxes, machinecraft, besiege, they are so complex that there is no substance to use what you created asides from those challenges,
A middle ground could be FTD, or Chode, they have some stuff that is really complex and its not scripting, they have stuff to do, but the technical part is only on a few aspects, and the substance is also the half of what you could do with them.
the other side is spengos.
Even if you do a wall of scripting, you will end up WASD your shit or self operating stuff, and the substance is almost enough to have some fun doing something.

>>167030920
That sounds like a good idea.

>>167030443
I think Besiege would benefit from the system LogicBots (for example) does, where you can do the mission however but there are several extra objectives like budget/part limits. Currently you can just plaster your machine with sawblades or cannons, and inventiveness is completely up to you.

For the latest 'kill the mortal fools'-type mission, I just made an armoured saw thing that I call 'Lawnmower'.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5CdbqtIMPsUdm5UQmRVUzhXYzA/view

avorion for all eggmen

>>167030920
That would be good
Maybe to punish the fools who don't check options when they start games, have a character say 'oh by the way tutorials can be skipped using the options menu' but only after they've finished the tutorials

So, in CHODE, if I want to make a sanic fast projectile do I go railgun or coilgun?
What variables affect the effectiveness of a substance as coil wire, anyway?

>>167031237
railgun

>>167031210
Nice, thanks.

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>>167029895
Thank you anon, your vigilance is inspiring. Make /egg/ great again!

>>167030991
I'd say the middle ground is somewhere around Spengies - a sandbox for the most part, but you can/have to use and possibly adapt your creations to complete certain task, be it fighting off pirates or mining asteroids.You are free to approach that task as you see fit, as long as things get done.
Plus there are some not-sandbox elements like the aforementioned fighting action and resource management with logistics involved, which serve as a nuclei for the oversaturated creativity solution to crystallize around, for the more goal-oriented of us.

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>>167029895
>>167030154
>>167031719

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I wish I could afford a 3d printer for real life /egg/ing

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>A large alien fleet warped in!
>Pirates are attacking the sector!
>Sector is under attack by an opposing faction!

I guess I'm building my ship in another sector.

>>167033018
You can build one. Should be cheaper, albeit it requires some actual effort on your end.
http://reprap.org/

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>>167031237
Railguns seem to be the easiest way to get super sanic speed projectiles. 8.6 km/s is my best so far, but I've seen other people do better.

>>167033275
yeah the dev should definitely lower the frequency of those random attacks. the faction wars cause some major lag for some reason and the clueless aliens and pirates jumping into the warzone just make it worse

>>167033985
>the faction wars cause some major lag for some reason
Perhaps its the large amount of shit everywhere, and the amount of AI actors.

>>167033807
Before the efficiency bugs were partially fixed, there was a railgun with a velocity of a few megameters per second (Light is about 300 megameters per second)

>>167033985
>>167033275
FYI the dev has planned to add safe space sectors for building and logging out with your fagbus.
Sources: my ass and avorion.net/news.

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>>167034374
Yeah, I think I saw that once somewhere, this 50+ km/s gun from the forums still works though, I reduced it's weight by replacing the titanium armor. I'm assuming that if a kinetic weapon is hitting it then something is already wrong.

>>167034943
At this point I won't need the nuclear shell anymore, I feel.

I just tried playing Empyrion after a few months break. I chose the desert starter planet since Aqua was just too easy.
On the first night, after 30 minutes of gameplay, I had THREE troop transports landing in my base (in addition to drone attacks). Chaingun troops that killed me in 2 seconds, among with like half a dozen of overseers.

Is this a fucking bug? I had absolutely no chance and literally ran out of ammo. I just had time to set up my first assembler and mine some iron, and I'm familiar with the game.

Oh and 10 seconds before an attack a meteor storm destroyed my base core, because why the fuck not.

I always thought Empyrion was too easy since the only attacks I got was like 2 drones every 15 minutes, and now suddenly I had a troop transport coming every 2 minutes right after game start. This can't be right. Couldn't even survive with save scumming.

>>167035328
You chose to build your base near three troop transport spawners and faced the consequences.


mpfags not ded yet

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busses are for fags

>>167038126
>using solar panels
>not polluting for the sake of polluting

>>167038126
Is it okay to be aroused by pictures of huge factories?

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>>167039558

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB9n2gHsHN4

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>>167039710

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>>167038126
>Rest Stop
. . .
>Rest Stop
Station grouping when? Even (O)TTD has it.
>Our system thinks your post is spam.

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>>167039608
glad you like it

>>167039982
its still in beta :v)

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>empty space in spengies is a voxel
Does that mean we could generate an infinitely large cave map without it impacting performance?

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>>167040404
No, because of their retarded optimisation, it'd all load in at once.

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Hiigaran battlecuiser is at about 70% complete now.
Despite the huge size the thrust is still amazing.
It takes a shitload of computer core blocks to reach another upgrade slot, I might have to fill the empty space inside with simple hull blocks.

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Recording REMcast now, send in your questions if you're hot enough.

REManon here

I am currently masturbating furiously while recording the next REMcast.

Post sadpandas for me to fap to during this recording.
My favorite tags include MILF, absorption, bee girls and prolapse.

>>167042085
avorion was a mistake

will your game be as shit?

>>167041926
You lads have given a pretty clear roadmap of things you want to/are going to do, plus your streams are pretty informative.

No questions anymore.

>>167042172
my fetishes don't include scat

>>167042315
My faith in humanity is somewhat restored.

>>167041114
Better get some mechanics before your ship falls into pieces.

>>167041926
ETA on gravity
Do you plan on balancing the game around mass? It seems likt it's the best way of stopping cheese, by making stuff just weight a lot. Gunbeds can't be gunbeds without stupid heavy suspensions.

I wonder if there are stats available for the weight of various mounted weapons and their drive equipment.

>>167041926
Are you going to add a game mode where all the enemies are anime girls and you have to build bondage and fucking robots to defeat them?

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>>167042582
You think someone reaching that level doesn't know about the crew?

>>167042647
>shitload of guns produce shitloads of recoil
>gunbeds literally rattle themselves apart
>if not, all the necessary structure reinforcement will make them nigh-immobile thanks to the added mass
>if not, they will have the maneuverability of a passed out drunk
>if not, such massive ships will need a lot of thrust and thrusters, which adds even more mass, as well as heat management and energy or fuel requirements, should there be an appropriate system in place
>in the end a vicious cycle forms that kills any potential gunbed
Add in heat system for the energy weapons and it's perfect.

>>167042360
Just water sports.

>>167043540
>On the Mikoyan MiG-27 the GSh-6-30 had to be mounted obliquely to absorb recoil. The gun was noted for its high (often uncomfortable) vibration and extreme noise. The airframe vibration led to fatigue cracks in fuel tanks, numerous radio and avionics failures, the necessity of using runways with floodlights for night flights (as the landing lights would often be destroyed), tearing or jamming of the forward landing gear doors (leading to at least three crash landings), cracking of the reflector gunsight, an accidental jettisoning of the cockpit canopy and at least one case of the instrument panel falling off in flight. The weapons also dealt extensive collateral damage, as the sheer numbers of fragments from detonating shells was sufficient to damage aircraft flying within a 200-meter radius from the impact center, including the aircraft firing.

Mass and recoil-centric balance is the best balance. Just tweak weights until wheels can't carry heavy armor AND a tank cannon, 5+ roadwheels are needed for a heavy tank, and fitting a huge gun to a fast light aircraft becomes all but impossible.

>>167043957
OINK

>>167043957
It looks like some effort was put into building a pretty cool ship with its own theme for the small bit to the right, then they just said "fuck it, I need more power"

>>167044298
Pretty sure it's a randomly generated one.

>>167041926
Is REM gonna be arena only, or will there be spaces like in Machinecraft where we will be able to compare our autistic creations?

>>167029895
>Implying you're not a shill trying to break /egg/
Fuck off.

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>>167045343
>Machinecraft

Will REM have gas?

>>167045679
>Corrosive gas that melts through armour if exposed to for too long
REManon please

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>>167043795
>That entire quote
Jesus fucking piss the Russians are crazy

>>167045940
Nah they just suck at engineering or just don't care.

>>167045940
Only a Russian looks at a list of these technical problems and says "da, is good".

>>167046406
russian engineering is either totally indestructible or pure garbage. no in-betweens

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>>167045815
>>167045679
>>167045343
>>167042690
>>167042647
>>167042172
Thank you for your questions

>>167042085
and shitposting


REMcast soon.

>>167045940
>>167046480
Can it still fly? Can it shoot enemies of the motherland? Da? Then shut up on dick and get in the fucking MiG, Sergei.
Victory first. Safety is overrated.

>>167045940
Someone post the story about the Russian astronaut who sacrificed himself because they were gonna send a younger guy up in some deathtrap, but the guys in charge insisted on going through with it.

>>167047204
>Russian astronaut
autism status: TRIGGERED

>>167047297
All according to keikaku.

>>167042085
>Bee girls
>Not superior tiles.
Faggot.

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>>167048479
>not nakadashi futa loli female:robot
fucking step up

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>>167047204
I got you fampai
http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage

>>167048753
>shits fucked
>like really fucked
>guys
>guys
>IS OF GOOD DAY TO MAKE SPESS FLIGHT COMRADE
>no seriously this shit is more important than your fucking retarded nationlis-
>YOU ARE OF SIBERIA FOR DISOBEY

This is why I'm terrified of Russia.

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>>167047204
>>167048753
>>167049152
It was him or Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space

He knew he would die, but did it not to save his own hide, they wouldn't have put him to the gulag.

what engineering game will let me repair and replace broken parts of my machine?

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Alright. Playing Empyrion and just realized that the goddamn Epsilon Outpost I've been reclaiming has been giving me fucking SMALL Steel Blocks.

I can build new goddamn small vessels with this shit. I can't cannibalize this directly into a new base, goddamn it. Who thought this was a good idea?

What the everloving fuck?

>>167049484
Spengies, although it is essentially rebuilding with a blowtorch to full health at the cost of parts.
StarMad and FtD, if by broken parts you mean damaged or destroyed blocks. FtD has repair bots for that though.
Scrap Mechanic, if by broken you mean the parts that you accidentally cut off when placed new piece of the clang puzzle.
Space Station 13, if you want to repair shit broken or rendered unusable by the clown, or traitor, or an assistant, or a geneticist that discovered the hulk gene, or an angry miner with Ripley, or prankster chemist that set off a (EMP)(PAcid) grenade or melted some walls with thermite, in the hallway, or singulo, or supermatter gone nuclear, or a monkey with RCD, or a wizard, or an (atmospheric) engineer with too much free time on his hands and no TEG, pipe autism or large-scale construction to keep him busy.

>>167050510
>small ship/hovership has a bug that can make it give large blocks
Just trade between the two.
No idea how the fug you make the bug happen though.

So Avorion has no way to quickly transfer cargo between ships/station. If you want to put 450 processors in your station for later, you have to click 450 times. I've seen npc ships and my own station pick up upgrades that are close enough, so I'm going to try building a bowl onto the station to park in, and jettison my cargo. The cargo boxes clip through everything, so I'll have to take that into consideration.

>>167050510
It does not matter. Make a blueprint of capital\base in creative, start producing it in survival and put all small blocks you salvaged. It will count towards and speed up things.
Actually whenever you have something useless, just put it into factory.
But for the love of god, don't put ammo there.

>>167043795
>>167043540
>>167042647
Doesn't REM already take into account recoil and stress though? And couldn't you just counter act the recoil with thrusters?

Another solution is to allow gunbeds, but introduce a countermeasure to them. Have a weapon that say, severely slows down the traverse rate of turrets or even freezes them in place, doing little damage to armor. Say maybe something like a glue bomb or thermite grenade. This way we can remove much of the effectiveness of gun beds with something like a one shot weapon.

It seems like gunbeds practicality is also limited by the reload time.

>>167051280
>And couldn't you just counter act the recoil with thrusters?
Assuming the recoil doesn't just snap your shit in two, and tanks don't have thrusters.

>>167051280
People will always find new ways to cheese. No matter what you do, you cannot run away from this in building games.

>>167051280
>Another solution is to allow gunbeds, but introduce a countermeasure to them.
Or we could just go with the first idea and make sure the physics and turret systems are well enough made to discourage gunbeds for reasons that already exist IRL. Such as requiring a fucking ridiculous suspension to support them.

>>167051459
what about machinecraft :^)

Physics balance is best balance.
>>167051280
>Doesn't REM already take into account recoil and stress though?
dunno
>And couldn't you just counter act the recoil with thrusters?
You can counteract the overall effect of the recoil on your ship, but not the stress and pressure it puts on the structure. Eventually the recoil will tear the cannon off the ship.
>>167051459
You may not make it impossible to cheese the system, but you can make it a whole lot harder with numerous drawbacks.

>>167039851
>tfw german U-botes keep missing your tactical kayak
Finally I can fish in peace.

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>>167051769
>>Doesn't REM already take into account recoil and stress though?
Can confirm it does, but current recoil forces are fucked because I'm an idiot. Too many guns could theoretically destroy a soundly built ship, but this is most visible when you just staple a string of guns together. A single shot will shatter the construct. In future versions, it'll be less fucked.

>>167051280
You're forgetting you have to actually pipe ammo, coolant or whatever else a particular gun require to every individual gun. I'd be impressed if some madman actually built a robokek style gunbed in REM, ever.

>>167051769
>Or we could just go with the first idea and make sure the physics and turret systems are well enough made to discourage gunbeds for reasons that already exist IRL. Such as requiring a fucking ridiculous suspension to support them.

This anon gets it. Though, suspensions for anything are a bit of a ways off, there's going to be an upper limit on what you can practically move, tied to the ground not being able to support more than 'X' tonnes without severely limiting your movement.

Honestly I THINK gunbeds in REM wont even be physically possible, given structural integrity being a concern, but it remains to be seen or tested.

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Good night /egg/

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>>167053613
An MB I had died of that

Good night anon

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>>167048671
>futa

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>>167054049
>not wanting the pureness of yuri, but with the actually half decent sex scene of futa

My man, you need to stop having shit taste.

So ah, what does REM stand for?
Rude engineering man?
Raw egg milkshake?

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>>167054220
Motherfucker do you see periods between the letters?

>>167054272
No but it's all in caps, which usually means it's an abbreviation.
I might have to go with rude engineering man.

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>>167054449
>being wrong

>>167054540
> being anon so nobody will know I was wrong
Thanks, apparently I didn't look hard enough.

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>>167054635
Its okay, happens to everybody.

>>167054791
the "Radical Extreme Muslim" project

>>167054152
I'm not the fag that's into dick.

>>167055015
>not liking dick

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>>167055015
>being so homophobic you disregard the futa also having a vagina, and a completely female disposition

So do you just not touch yourself at all or...?

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>>167053580
>>You're forgetting you have to actually pipe ammo, coolant or whatever else a particular gun require to every individual gun.
That's pretty cool, but how does piping work? Is it just from ammo storage boxes to every single gun?

You also doing engines, drivetrains, radiators and what not for tanks?

>>167055108
>>167055080
If it has to involve a dick, I rather it be vanilla. Non futa yuri is the best.

>>167055256
yuri is shit

>>167055248
>You also doing engines, drivetrains, radiators, and what not for tanks?
Whenever we say "resource system" that's what we mean. Not sure of the details yet, but the running idea is add as much "depth" into vessel/tank systems while still benefiting combat(to prevent meme gunbeds, etc) but not needlessly artistic. So if it can be used as a balancing factor it will probably make it in.

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>>167055323
It's only good with /ll/.

>>167055698
>artistic... reeeeeeeee spell check
Autistic

>>167055764
A man of taste I see

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>>167055248
>You also doing engines, drivetrains, radiators and what not for tanks?
Yes. Driveshafts, chains, pulleys, gearboxes with adjustable gearing the works. Good shit.

>That's pretty cool, but how does piping work? Is it just from ammo storage boxes to every single gun?

Well, the idea is to make it a challenge, without making it annoying. Feed Belts from ammo boxes to the reloading mechanisms. let's also not forget the custom turrets coming soon. Also coolant pipes for the waterjacket of the guns that require such things. Smaller calibre cooler firing guns will have passive rads on the gun itself. These pipes won't have any structural integrity, unless we do some reinforced piping I guess, but they'll need to be connected to the overall loop system.

You can have as many individual loops as you want, but every additional loop controller/pump/reservoir/radiator costs more on top of the ones you already have, so redundancy is possible, but retarded redundancy is implausible.

One for the maneuvering thrusters, one for the main drive thrusters, one for the main guns, one for the resource systems such as the generator would be my go-to set up. You could run an individual loop for litterally every individual module, but that'd be a bit silly unless the craft was rather small.

Heat > Water > Pipe > Pump > Radiator > Reservoir > Controller/Distributor > Do it again.

You should be able to, on the fly, dedicate more cooling performance to a particular part of your loop if set up in such a way as to allow it, but the usefulness of that is limited to min/max builds.

This is much more thought and effort than most any game has put into heat management before, so I have no idea how this will actually function during gameplay.

Might need to be discarded, but I hope not. This is one of the crucible things we started developing REM on in the first place.

>>167055764
eh
i only really like loli when they've got hips
a more slim and probably more realistically-built loli, as they generally are, don't really get to me much
that said, for some reason even if i do like two grills, putting them together is somehow more boring than they would be solo

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>>167055968
Personally, oppai loli are the only way to go. "Vanilla Loli" brings me out of the experiance and I realise I'm reading small children having sex, rather than young women in "Grade X."

Unless its yuri, which doesn't count.

>>167056052
an oppai loli is fine too, as long as they still look like lolis

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Why is there anime porn autism in my engineering autism?

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>>167056396
Because there's a lot of overlap

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>>167056632
You know what else this general has a lot of overlap with?

So on factorio, to connect an inserter to the entire logistic network you just need to connect it to any old logistics crate right? Or can it only see the contents of the crates its directly connected to?

How much am I missing out on by not using logistics in Factorio (excluding the passive provider and requester chests for robots)

>>167055968
>>167056052
>>167056232
There should be a hebeloli tag/sub genre. Middle schoolers are the best~

>>167058764
With properly set up storage for the end product? Nothing really.
Though you'll need to connect storage tank and a pump to handle the excess of oil products.

>>167059410
too old
if i'm gonna be going for middle schoolers then i might as well be going for adults, not like i don't like them too

Why so much weeb faggots in these last threads

>>167060086
>implying i haven't been here since the beginning of /seg/
Whew lad.

>>167060295
Stop being a dull weeb

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>>167060379
How about you go chug chug pic related?

So I built a spess station in abortion, a solar power plant but I couldn't choose it's size and the one I got built is S, how do you make them larger? I'm trying to add more panels, not much success so far.

>>167060545
I think if the ship you used to make it is big enough it becomes M+

>>167060543
Go fap to your chinese little girls with dicks you fucking waste of breath

>>167060796
NO! You fucking kidding me? I dropped 3 mills on that shit, no way I have to buy a big ship and cough up the same or more dosh!
If I at least had a fucking wiki or something, but so far I can't find anything in the forums, on steam forums or in the wiki.

>>167061000
3 mil is nothing, brother.
And no info is half the fun, you get to make the wiki yourself!

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Kinetic impactors, NOT EVEN ONCE.
This poor fuck was basically dead the second I grazed him. KI's passed through and through without even an appreciable loss of speed.

>>167061525
I'm wasting all my money on resources since making money now is faster than salvaging/mining and I need resources for my ships to invade the core.
I thought I would make a nice station while I trade around and occasionally check back for the goods, but a small station is a kick in the nuts.

FYI, when you get to the M.A.D. satellites, use just one weapon to kill them. Had some serious lag spikes any time my salvos would hit them, the dev said something about all the different noises crashing the game. It was a different part of the game he was talking about, but it feels like that was what was going on in my game.

>>167061678
Go close to the wall and kill shit for a few hours. Resources won't be a problem after that. Any time you get low, just pop back over there. Your warp range should be 20+sectors after your first trip because of all the upgrades you picked up and researched.

>>167060939
Make me, queerbait.

>>167061638
>capital round
I don't know what kind of muzzle velocity you're achieving, but I'd suspect that a typical .50 BMG has more kinetic energy.
Keep in mind that the mass of a .50 BMG bullet easily goes up to 50 g.
Also, a kinetic impactor isn't what you think it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOWamCtnwTc

>>167062865
Capital compared to the 10g round I built prior to it, and in reference to the size of ship the gun is fitted to, and in reference to it's primary use which is to kill other capital ships.

While it's true the Barnes BMG round is 52g, the Capital round has a starting muzzle velocity of 2.9km/s compared to the Barnes' 882m/s. In addition to whatever the 5g cyclonite charge imparts to the copper plate and tungsten penetrators at the moment just before impact.

I'm not saying it's anywhere near perfect or optimized, but I was impressed with it's performance considering I've only built one other similar projectile and I haven't yet optimized either.

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What would you do with a 109000 horsepower engine

>>167064718
Dildo based macerator

>>167064718
Get rid of desu.
Fuck fossil fuel engines, H-fuel cells are the future.

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>>167064718
The ultimate drift machine off course

>>167064718
Finally an engine to power your buttplug!

>>167064718
I'd post it on 4chan for the billionth time. Ah damn too late

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_adversarial_networks
Guys
Is this the bicameral mind?

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Come home /egg/man

>>167065924
Gmod could be /egg/ if it wasn't so fucking hard to build anything.

>>167038126
Jesus. I just started playing this and this pic is scaring me. How many hours did that take you?

Also do the animals attack the rail tracks?

>>167066194
Embrace the autism. Let it consume you, mold you, so that you emerge enlightened, baptized by Clang.
>Also do the animals attack the rail tracks?
They usually ignore the tracks.

>>167066194
They prioritize shit that causes pollution, so they'll go after the boilers and miners first. They also really hate radars when they attack but it doesn't make them more likely to attack.

>>167067528
>>167067563

So if you make secondary bases way far out like in
>>167040117
they wont hack down the powerline towers running from the main base out to secondary ones?

how do you deal with maintenence if and when they do decide to eat a track or power line

>>167064718
test if it actually generates as much energy as 109,000 horses

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>>167066194
Not him but pic related.
Mind you this was a really chill game full of dinner breaks and stuff I didn't bother to stop the game, don't worry about the creeps, they are easy to counter.

>>167064718
Hook it up to a fuckhueg tunnel bore with excavators off to the sides and make my own vault.

>>167067851
>>167038126
Love how your bases look like circuit diagrams. Mine is just a mess and if I ever start fixing it, I'm not even sure where to begin.

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>tfw start new bess, get situated, then realize i can't find a second oil patch 3 mini-map lengths in any direction from my starting point

>>167067980
Factorio is a lot like circuit board design in a way, you're carrying inputs to things that can process them, then those outputs to further processing or to storage.

>>167067980
You can see how I slowly expanded from the starting area, I didn't care about fixing anything, I just packed up the shit I needed and moved to a bigger place, then claimed another oil filed, then started solar farming, made the mega line for manufacturing modules, made red and green, then blue science lines, claim a mine here make a solar panel/accumulator factory near the main bus, claim more land for a huge steam plant for emergency power generation then just expanded the solar/accumulator field.

It becomes like this by nature, not because one wants to.

>>167058764

logisitics network makes the game considerably less enjoyable, as it cuts down on absurd spaghetti chaos.

>>167064718
>screw on a CAI
>post on instagram with shitty filters

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Why are useless epilepsy guns so fun?

>>167069296
Because then you can say "My chode game so good it gave someone a seizure".

>>167067678
Why would they? Ayys are attracted to pollution sources and will attack things that stand between them and their target or near their target, or things that attack them.
Usually they leave tracks and power lines alone, though I personally witnessed a few occasions where they attacked my power lines, so proceed with caution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaIiilGePLM
REManon it's like you don't want that sweet YouTube revenue or something.
Anyway, not-REManon here, here's REMcast #15.

>>167067760
A single horse can reach like 15hp

>>167069956
Then there are around 7300 horses inside that hueg engine.

>>167064718
Use it to power a automatic ballista

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>>167066194
it says in the top left corner: 4 days and 3 hours.
I never deleted any of my starting factory, only upgraded.
I intentionally tried spaghetti belting literally everything until I could no longer get the throughput I want then I added new robotized sections.
this is my 3rd playthrough.
I use bobs logistics and warfare .

>>167067678
they aren't secondary bases. they are only resource gathering. I play with RSO so I have to go far out.
They have never once attacked any rails, and attacked power poles only a handful of times; only after I aggroed them and they followed me to an outpost.

>>167067980
thanks. I'll start a new game when 0.15 comes out, and maybe I'll make a video walkthrough of my base then too.

When the singularity comes I'm going to take a sentient computer and have it make /egg/ games.

>>167072480
>Not forcing it to make genetically engineered catgirl slaves

It's like you are not even trying.

>>167072603
I don't want catgirl slaves, I want autism.

>>167072603
>>167072681
>>167072480
I'm going to hook myself up and marry a virtual 2.5D middle school girl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eis11j_iGMs

>/egg/ Liberal FUD

>>167073653
>capitalizing while greentexting
Back to /pol/, newfag.

>>167072812
>marrying a fractal

Why do I get the feeling that cucumber cosmonaut shitposters and hillshills are the same people?

>>167074648
Because you have severe autism.

>>167074648
Please.
Only the alt-right can be retarded enough to play spinach space program.

>>167074709
or, you know, mexicans..

>>167072603
I wish I could become a catgirl

>>167074708
I am not sure whether I should be offended or flattered.
>>167074709
But I play it too, despite being a filthy commie.

>>167074760
No, no, no.
Those are smart enough to make, shill and sell it, then maximise their profits.

>>167074830
Right, I forgot /egg/ is slav.

>>167074879
I'll have you know that not every slav is a communist.
Even though I am a slav. And a commie. Nevertheless my point still stands.

>>167075065
Slav women are EXTREMELY hot. Above Asians in my opinion.

>>167075065
I know that not every slav is a communist.
I mean, I'm not putin you all in one category.

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>>167074332

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>>167075184
>>167074332
>not miku

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>>167075338

koonschi on twitch right now

https://www dot twitch dot tv/spacegamejunkie

<3 those german accents

>>167075421
That will be me on the right on day.

>>167075425
Oh god who is he talking to? A total fucking retard? Jesus Christ in a fucking Volkswagen running downhill!

Why don't I see anything about Brick Rigs here?
What's the consensus on that game?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/552100

>>167075880
I think I saw a post about it a while back, and people said it was buggy as fuck and had nothing to do.

Have you exercised today /egg/?

A friendly reminder that your body is a robot waiting to be optimised.

>>167076043
I jacked my dick for a half an hour.

>>167076043
Nah, too preoccupied with mustering the will to actually watch the 6 or so let's play i still have to finish but i don't want to sit through a hour long video of Vangers just yet and Baldur's Gate stuff is still quite long

>>167076043
I'll optimize my figurative robot once I can optimize literal robots

>>167076043
A needlessly muscular body is a waste of resources.

>>167076043
>Have you exercised today /egg/?
Yes, I visited /gif/ for a hour.

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>>167076043
I'll start optimising once my epilepsy gets patched out

>>167076043
Not yet, but I filled it with caffeine and sugar.
That's like fuel, right?

>>167076043
After four years of abusing steroids, I barely need to work out to stay slim. I'm basically perma buff.

>>167076043
I had my right hand in fast motion for about 10 minutes.

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>>167076148
>Vangers
мoй ниггep

>controlled
He could tell Ted and Romney to get on their knees, and they would.

Just saying.

Are wheeled vehicles in space engineers still shit?

>>167077898
I saw some posts a while back of surprisingly good performance with them, drifting and shit without clanging or tipping over. This is spengies though, you are never 100% safe from clang.

>>167076570
How small is it?

>>167078092
Kibidick.

Is OTTD approved here?

>>167079467
yes

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>>167064718
Engine swap

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I know it's an old maymay, but this is likely the most /egg/y machine ever

>>167079467
There has to be a better general for it but maybe.

>>167064718
I'd step on the gas tonight.

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Finished my new wall the other day. Rate

>>167078092
It's an urban legend that your dick shrinks. It's your balls that shrink and it was by a little bit.

>>167080039
>Tracks
>Multiple sections
>Suspension cables
>Consists largely of girders
>Giant bucket wheel that resembles a fucking sawblade
>Made solely for mining
>German manufacturer
Yeah, probably

>>167081118
Step up yer train game senpai

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaIiilGePLM
REMcast NOW

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>>167064718
>Decide to look it up
>wikipedia.org/wiki/Wärtsilä-Sulzer_RTA96-C
>Up to 14 cylinders
>Bore: 960 mm

>>167081419
Finland strong

>>167064718
Lift 75kgf a distance of 109km every second

I wonder.
If you built a massive automated factory occupying all of Rhode Island, would it be a state machine?

>>167082972
only if youre a commie

>>167046480
>>167046495
>when Russian brass thought that fitting 88 submachine guns in bomb bay of light bomber and then blasting all 6 thousands of bullets in four second long volley is a way to go.

Anything Ruskies do is either of divine genius or absolute idiocy.

>>167084037

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>>167082972

>>167084212
Pictures, please.

Why can't Empyrion have good space content?
>they added random freighter ships
>if you attack them they self destruct in 30 minutes
>killing their AI Core and replacing it with your own does not stop the self destruct
>they are hardcoded to be impossible to capture

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>>167085295
Wanna hear the list of cons?
>Casings could jam other PPSs, rear MGs, engines, or anything mechanical in close vicinity
>the AoE was rectangle of 4 by 1800 feet, so even though it'd be pretty much guaranteed to hit anything in that zone, the list of potential targets was limited to train or very oblivious column
>rearming the array of leady death required dozens of workhours, since you had to fit those 6 thousands of bullets back into magazines
And what ultimately grounded the whole idea
>plane had to fly on low altitude with speed of 250mph, basically allowing enemies to shot back at with everything from AA guns to Lugers (though the efficiency could vary), which made missions extremely risky

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>>167085860
shit I saved thumbnail.
I guess 4chanx made me too lazy...

>>167085860
Doesn't matter, have dakka.

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I was playing factorio yesterday and had a thought. Most of the mechanics/interactions in the game evolve and get more complex over the course of a play through, with the notable exception of mining. Once you build the electric mining drill (which you start with the tech for) all you can do for the rest of the game when it comes to mining is build more of them. Do you guys think the game would be better with a more advanced mining option?

I was thinking they could even make a vehicle, like pic related, that would be difficult to build but could cover an entire ore deposit by itself and maybe even have an upgrade/module mechanic like the power armor. Something to increase mining speed, internal buffer capacity, or maybe even an internal smelting array.

Thoughts?

>>167086556
that would be pretty boss actually. if the bagger fits into any game, or at least a mini-bagger, it'd be factorio.

ded

>>167088257
some of us have jobs

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>>167088506
We all have...

>>167086556
>replace electric drills with larger electric drill
Whatever.
It'd be more interesting if a new higher tier of mining would also require supplies other than power.
Would make sense if explosives were one of these supplies, considering it's their primary civilian use, and it'd also make Factorio's oil industry somewhat more useful.

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>>167080039
I dunno, I still think this one is pretty close

>>167086647
>that would be pretty boss actually
a bagger would make a cool boss
>demolish everything on its path

>>167089843
I've got PTSD already

>>167089919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEvfD4C6ow

Anyone tried Subterrain?
It's not exactly engineering autism, but it seems to have a pretty convoluted crafting system and plenty of logistic problems to solve, on top of being a top-down alien shooter.

I bought it on sale and I just dumped a couple of hours in it, it's a bit overwhelming at first

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>>167093154
>top down in the current year

Cant wait to get off work today. Gonna build some more shit in Gear blocks.

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Oh yeah by the way that strawpoll for 4CC keeper has been sitting there for ages, and weirdly Eggman (or /egg/man, although it turns out we don't need to name him that because cups) won it.
So uh, he's captain AND keeper now.

We only need a few things to add - mainly a goal horn - and I'll see if I can find someone to make aesthetics for us.

Any /egg/like songs you guys can think of?

>>167090978
that's some next level autism
I want to see the bagger fight a kaiju

>>167094675
Goal horns needs to be the sound of clang.

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>>167094894
There's a bagger-ish robot in Nier: Automata you fight

>>167094675
I play vijya gaems bgm on when building stuff. Meant to keep you focused, works well for me.

>>167094675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaC0vNLdLvY

>>167094934
For some reason I've never found much music made using mechanical sounds.
Maybe something by MrSolidSnake745 (i.e. that guy that makes hardrive arrangements)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lx0cWwVr1w

>>167094675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR010PQkJVc
Should be possible to find a decent source for the music.

What're the limits on anthems even?
Playing the full 4½ minutes seems excessive, so is it just the final verse?

>>167095289
>[incomprehensible]
uh huh.

>>167095603
Background music from games to keep me focused?

>>167095603
>>[incomprehensible]
linguistic clang

>>167095490
>mechanical sounds
How about Printer CLANG?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-HVxmUELQ

this shit reminds me of mad max

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249ptJFUgN4

>>167095963
This is the correct answer. This is our anthem.

>>167095603
Found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDFdtI4VN7s
If you have a mic, just play it through your headphones on midomi (at a decent volume) and it'll usually find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1plg_yYsCQM

>>167094934
How about Aphex Twin
His stuff can get pretty CLANGish

>>167094675
>>167094934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev3vENli7wQ

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>>167094675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh_L6tVsg2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABsCPwpG4KY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z10AlFDQfY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5DdrO0OQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK1vgWTTmW4

>>167098845
That movie sounds pretty kick ass. Is it any good?

>>167098479
>music video
>music

>>167093743
I guess you don't play Factorio then

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>>167101054
That's isometric you fuck.

>>167094675
Goal horn should be the sound of a normal horn, but stopping and looping mid-blow.
You know when a program crashes and whatever sound was playing at the moment is stuck in an endless loop of the last tone in the last fraction of a second? That should be it, but made with the blow horn.

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>>167101286
That sounds hilarious, but the guys streaming/watching would probably hate us after the first time it got played since 'horns' are played for around 10-20 seconds each time

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>>167101490
We wouldn't score all that often anyway.

>>167100303
It's pretty good, I recommend it. The two sequels are good too, especially the first of them. The one after that is alright.
All of them get pretty heavy on the biomechanical CLANG

>>167098845
Dinosauroid is pretty good for the job, since it's a shorter track that starts the beat immediately

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>>167101281
>who is the retard?
>the weeb
as always

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>>167102118
>using a commonly accepted term for a type of game camera is retarded

Alright then you mother of cunts, fine. I dislike the "Plan" type of camera and find its use distasteful in modern video games, and Oblique Top Down is far superior, even if its not ideal.

>>167101490
That's perfect.
Play 5 seconds of a normal horn and then glitch it for 15 seconds

A few people will probably freak out the first few times it happens, thinking something bad is happening to their PC

>>167102326
Except the game that you were referring to is not in plan view, but in top-down view.
Nobody mentioned plan view you sperg

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>>167102897
I honestly forgot how irritating it is to talk to some of you.

>>167102897
Subterrain, the game refered to as "top-down", has plan projection

>>167102998
The feeling is mutual.

>>167102998
>Says wrong retarded shit
>Is rightfully told he is wrong and a retard
>"Hurr you bunch are so irritating!!!"

Stay mad you faggot

What engineering did you do today?
I made a simple joule thief out of a 9v battery, a residual-current device, some leds and a BC208B sourced from the laboratory, the resistance was in the residual current device.
Pretty nigger rigged but hey, baby steps

>>167077503
Yeah, it's the last part of a LP of the Perimeter series of games, the guy is the only one that is doing a english lp of the russian version so it's nice since afaik the english version was butchered and lacked some plot points.

Hope it ends up clarifying everything in the end since i've got quite a bit of questions left unanswered

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Regarding cargo in Avorion:

Stations pick up cargo dropped in a sphere around their geometric center. (Might be center of mass, not sure. It's the square bracketed icon you click to target. ) Your ship drops cargo in 4 globs, shot out straight up, down, left and right of where you're facing. Your cargo shoots out the same distance as the pickup sphere's radius, so if your ship's center isn't less than 0.01km from the station's center, some of the cargo will just float there until an npc picks it up or it despawns. For best results, put your ship's nose up to the icon then jettison. If the item is something the station needs or makes, you can get it back from the Buy/Sell list in one click, but if it's not you are going to have to click each item to get it back in your ship.

Trading cargo/personnel is not done while docked, it's done with your ship being 0.01km or less from the station's center, just like you'd do with other ships. Yes, this is stupid. If your station's dock is not at the center and you try to trade personnel/cargo while docked, it tells you you you're too far away.

I'm having an issue where while in the trade cargo menu it only lists the first 9 or 10 types of cargo, and the scrollbar doesn't work, so anything I've picked up beyond that is still there, it's just hidden from the transfer menu, and can't be transferred until stuff gets out of the way in front of it. This will probably be fixed, feels like a bug.

I made a big station to hold all my shit, but it's totally a pain in the ass to use. Just thought I'd share.

>>167103743
I made a salad.

>>167103743
I stole my boss's password to the employee review database.

Is Automation /egg/ enough?

I'm thinking about buying it, what currently sucks about it?

boop

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>>167106634

>>167105868
Maybe?
It just looks like a puzzle game with only one solution though, which is not good for potential /egg/ness

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how do i get this pointed

>>167108084
Add a spacer to it, or split the payload up into progressively smaller pieces and stack them like a pyramid.

>>167108084
>Aluminium shell
Is that really a thing?

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WAKE ME UP INSIDE

>>167110583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw_HKzo9Ync

>>167111250
fug rip that webm

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>>167111353
testingtheencoder.webm

What are some must have mods for Factorio?

Why am I building all these shit if I can never show them to anyone?
All I want is a cute /egg/ girlfriend who would build with me so we can all live together in our own moonbase.

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>>167113207
>cute
>/egg/
>girl
>friend

>>167113207
AI soon.

>>167113207
Don't even bother, girls don't play these types of games. No girl in all of history has ever played an /egg/ game without being introduced to it by her boyfriend.

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>>167113207
having litterally done this I'd advise against doing it with a female. Get yourself a girlfriend (male) and you'll do fine.

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>>167111250

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>>167113405
>No girl in all of history has ever played an /egg/ game without being introduced to it by her boyfriend.
Well, I've seen one or two females get into robokek when it was fairly new, so maybe not in the history of ever, but they certainly don't put any autism into them.

>>167113207
>girl

it's 2017, get on with the times. >>167038370

>>167113314
>cute /egg/
>cute girlfriend
>/egg/ friend
Pick one.

The biggest fault of Empyrion is that you can pack a fully functional endgame base into a 5x5 room with assembler, generator, storage and even a kitchen, put some thrusters on it and you will never ever need a static planet base anymore.

I always give up halfway prettying up and decorating my base when I realize that as soon as I get a carrier up I will never come back to this place anymore.

The good thing about Spengs is that you need 5+ refineries and assemblers if you want to build even a medium sized battleship before you die of old age. Which is of course prohibitively large and heavy to put on a ship, let alone the thousands of ore that turn you into a flying brick. So having a proper base of operations is a must, which adds so much to the game.

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there is only one game deder than /egg/

>>167114034
Good thing they're being paid to make that game, if they were relying on their own funds I'd be afraid it might kill my favorite dev.

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>>167038370
>Both with at least legs that are trap-tier
>Both into traps/being traps in the first place
>Enough dosh to afford decent setups
I am actually jealous for once in my life.

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>>167114034