/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

first for elves and statues and elven statues

bote

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>>166541105

>captcha: Select all images with statues

>>166545089
>forcing memes
I get where you're coming from.

You just used to browse some other "meme website". There, you kept seeing these outrageously funny screencaps from 4chan, and you kept hearing about how 4chan was the birthplace of all those epic memes. At first, you were content with just admiring 4chan from a distance, from the safety of your previous meme website. But eventually, your curiositygot the better of you. You realised that you wanted to see the birthplace of memes with your own eyes. You wanted to "be there" when the next new meme was born. You wanted to be part of the massive "popular movement" involved in creating and spreading a new meme. So you came here.

Now, you spend the majority of your time on 4chan trying to force pathetic attempts at "memes". Everytime someone says something outrageous here, you see the meme potential and begin trying to force a meme about it. What you don't realise is that by coming here and desperately trying to "be there" when the next big meme is born, you destroy the community. You destroy the magic that made you interested in 4chan in the first place. You're part of the recent influx of newfags that are ruining 4chan.

Fuck off.

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Has anyone ever seen this dialogue/monologue before? Specifically the part where Ustuth says his own name.

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>>166545450
chill out homo

>>166545659
Yeah, it happens. Most of the time, they sound more triumphant (maybe out of pride for killing a dangerous enemy).

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I'm very new to DF and what is this?
What will happen?

>>166545974
if you press a), you'll get a lot more immigrants from now on, and the mountainhome will make a lot of arbitrary decisions for you, which may fuck up your fort.

>>166545974
No.

No. No. NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo.

Stay away. Or you'll have to deal with Nobles.

>>166546212
>>166546225
Sounds like fun.
I'll do it since I'm a bit tired of this fort so far since it's at a too hospitable place and I have so much shit at the moment that it's not very silky smooth in the FPS department anymore either.
Time to dig deep I guess.

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>>166545659
gui/gm-editor df.global.world.units.active[0].status.current_soul.personality.emotions

Inside will be a series of entries and each will have an emotion, an unknown value, a strength field, a type of thought which the emotion references, and then a field that can have a simple counter or a histfig id (or was it unit id, hmmm, pretty sure histfig) and said histfig can have emotion+thought linked with it, so you can have [FONDNESS] or [EXCITEMENT] after starting a new romance, [HORROR] or [GRIM_SATISFACTION] at seeing someone die/killing them, and so forth.

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>>166546993
I love how the basic thought has two main components:
>[statement]+[brief comment or description of emotion related to said statement]

It really reads like a Trump tweet.

>>166545450
Would you rather he'd just typed "bump"?

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Quartz!!

>>166550085
What's the deal with diamonds?

Rock crystals look almost the same, are much cheaper, and aren't mined under ethically questionable circumstances in war zones.

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Oh shit, am I going to get to slaughter some elves soon?

>>166551313
´>letting elves talk to you like that

cuck

>>166551396
I wonder how tough they'll be.
I only have 2 squads but at least they're both clad in Steel from tip to toe.

>>166551471
he's just a snotty diplomat, next spring he'll come with an agreement

if you ignore it and kill ALL elves you get to kill MORE elves

>>166551313
>>166551471
Kill the diplomat and find out.
>two full squads in steel
Assuming they have decent Weapon, Fighter, Armour User, Shield-User and Dodging they'll butcher upwards of two dozen without casualties.

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The ten dollar question, do your dwarfs love their leader?
Is your leader applicable to this image in any way?
Stockpile socialism?

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>>166551517
>>166551532
Thanks, I'll kill them all.
Also I finally hit the second cavern layer and now I'll get to test my underground squad against a horde of Crundles and a Troll.

>>166551663
Hope you enjoy entire caravans-worth of crundle prepared meals.

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>>166551639
>keaddafi

>>166545450
>You're part of the recent influx of newfags that are ruining 4chan.
>recent influx of newfags
newfag

>>166550413
We can grow them in labs now, and hopefully kill the bloodsoaked trade entirely, and now I am sad because I have no more Discworld books to read ever so I'm gonna go sleep.

>>166552532
I know that feeling, to an extent. Still haven't gathered the courage to read The Shepherd's Crown.

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>>166547307
>it really reads like a Trump tweet

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>Playing with Masterwork
>Have Soundsense on to enjoy the nice, relaxing sounds of Dorfs
>Start new Fort
>Miners dig out Proto-Great Hall in chalk.
>Two pet chalks appear out of the rock
>They can literally do nothing, because they're just pet rocks
>But for some reason, they enter into combat with eachother, and keep attacking eachother, unable to win, because neither of them can do any damage to the other
>Have to eternally listen to combat noiseses, because 2 pieces of chalk are having the world's most extreme staring contest
>mfw this is precisely what I deserve for the first line

>>166556439
I didn't know Masterwork had pet rocks

That's fucking retarded

>>166556738
I knew it did.

I thought I had them turned off.

>>166556738
>>166556832
Scratch that, I checked.
I DID have them turned off.
Apparently Masterwork just loves Pet Rocks so much, that it includes them, even if you have them turned off. Or one of the other modules puts them in, because why not.

>>166557115
I wonder if you could use them as bait for invaders

>>166556439
>>166556832
>>166557115

Meph called, he wants to go to Turkmenistan now, empty your pockets.

>>166556419
Loved this one.

>>166553668
Yeah, you can see where he realized he wouldn't have time to keep going and wrapped it up.

>>166560137
Cool, I like the mask

I've smelted all copper and iron goblinite and got a few thousand bars, but what to do with leather shit?

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What do I do with Adamantine now that I have it?

tfw no 30 z levels of gabbro

>>166562164
Make a big pile and roll around in it nude.

Or extract strands at craftsdwarf shops, then smelt them into wafers, and make armor/weapons from those.

>>166562774
Yeah, guess I'll make a squad or two fully clad in adamantine now.

>>166560137
Now draw a goblin agent masquerading as a bard/scholar/prophet/elf.

>>166562774
>adamantine armour

not adamantine socks and cooking pots for each citizen.

>>166563359
Two words:
Fake
Beard

How the FUCK am I supposed to deal with keas interrupting all my dwarves in my above ground fort? I set my militia on patrol all over my base and they don't do anything when keas are near. I tell them specifically to kill a kea and they don't do anything, I've got them outfitted with crossbows/bolts and everything. The only time they get killed is when they fly into my tavern and the visitors slaughter them.

>>166564158
Remove the [FLIER] tag from keas, watch them fall to the ground and explode.

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>>166564158
Station them near where the keas are getting lowest. If a kea is low enough to interrupt a job it's low enough for a marksdwarf to take a potshot. It'll probably miss, because marksdwarves aim for the kea is when they fire, not where it will be when the bolt gets there.
A better solution is to take your most valuable artifact, stockpile it somewhere away from your fort, and build a room around it with twisty hallways full of weapon traps. Keas are legendary appraisers and want to steal the most expensive swag they can get their grubby little claws on. They'll mass suicide to get to the shiny, and do so well away from your work areas. Kobolds will also go after it, and they're trap avoid. Put a dog in the room with the artifact to catch them. Make sure the dog can't be seen from outside the room or it'll scare keas away.
Good luck.

>>166564325
That feels too cheaty. I was hoping for some ingame advice, otherwise I might as well exterminate them in dfhack. Maybe if I made a stockpile of platinum goods in a roofed area with guards stationed at the entrance/around the goods it could act as bait? Or maybe traps instead of guards? Right now I think the only way they die is because flying into the tavern forces them to be on the ground.

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>>166500917
Bruh, I didnt remember you senpai
I actually was the one to ask your name the first time

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Uhh, I guess I was a bit too greedy for that adamantine.

Is dwarf therapist ever going to catch up, /dfg/?

>>166565268
It's fine. They just want to dance in your tavern and bang some qt dwarf grills.

>>166565296
Yes.

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>>166565551
They partied hard.

>>166554401
SAD!

>>166564962
This is about what I had in mind, thanks friend.

>>166565894
>not raising the drawbridge.

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>>166547307
>>166554401
>>166565961

>>166565195
Is that what I think it is

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>spend days developing a fort
>realize I dont like it anymore

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>>166566259
>implying I just didn't go straight down to the bottom

I'm very new to this, I thought all that shit about dangerous monsters down there was just lord of the rings memery.
I was going to assemble squads in full adamantine and kill all elves that dare come.

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>>166565195
I did*
shit

Anyway, help me categorize my shit
was this from you?
>>166566327
Its all the images posted from every drawfag from 2 years ago

>>166566467
I'm not thinking about that

>>166566507
what do u mean then bud?

>>166566571
XP?

>>166551639
Never though I'd see the former dictator of my country as a pale vampire in here
Life is amazing

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>embark with the intent of creating a great above ground skyscraper city
>no dorf caravan
>no migrants after the first two waves
>the 13 dorfs I have are the only ones in the world, and they have to build the entire city themselves
>one dorf is already dead
wtf I don't believe in god now

>>166566663
I laughed
eh, its something close to my heart, you know?
Also, it is objectively the best OS

>>166566735
You can do it indicomfrowstheticanon. I believe in you!

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>>166566663
So close to a quints get.

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>>166566852
Well alright

>>166567154
Goddamn

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>>166567154
>>166567271
Let's see who got it.

My new year's resolution is to periodically drop in and post DF memes in whatever general got those quints.

>>166566666

>>166567596
>>166567154
>being this new

>>166567093
>dat name

>>166566278
https://twitter.com/Bay12Games/status/806674986727456768

>>166567812
Wait hold up, don't tell me dubs are disabled in /vg/, I remember seeing them.

>>166567908
they are

>>166568168
Well fuck

>>166545450
faggot

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h-help!

My fort is too young to die!

>>166569525
The bridge anon, raise it

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>>166569525
jesus christ what the fuck is that monstrosity of a tileset

>>166569701
What do you suppose the chances are of that necromancer that showed up with all the zombies reanimating all those troll and troglodyte corpses right outside my walls?

i hate toady!!

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>>166569525
deactivate multilevel view

switch tileset to a more bearable one

>>166570140
100%

>>166569725
>>166570170
I don't know guys, I like that tileset

What's the name?

>>166570170
>deactivate multilevel view

Then what's the fuckin point of an above ground fort? What's the point at all? Just for the sake of being a purist?

>>166570415
you can still view it level by level.

if you want to see it all at once and take pretty screenshots, there's Armok Vision

>>166570348
Ironhand

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>mfw a weretortoise attacked and I've lost 75% of my fort to other people turning into weretortoises

>>166567908
Non 0 repeating digits are disabled
And for 0 only trips and above work

>>166570415
What's the point of disabling it at all*

>>166570761
Wait, really? Huh, learn something new every 86.4 kiloseconds.

>>166570415
>Multi-level view is for Above Ground Forts
>Not creating beautiful multi level great halls, with grand corridors riddled with the statues of fallen heroes, engraved with the legends of those who came before
>Not creating a tavern, overlooking the busy trade depot in the middle of a great chamber, with a view off to the throne room up above, where peasants can petition their king, who watches over the lives of the entire fort.

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>>166572857
Word.

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>>166573330
>maxtm defending multilevel view
wtf I hate max now

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Why is this guy being such a little bitch? He's got -52k stress.

>>166575272
dude, it's a green activity.

he'll stop whenever a job comes up.

>>166569525
Well that wasn't too difficult a siege to live through. I turtled up till the necromancer went off the edge of the map and half of the zombies had followed an Olm down into a local natural cave. I sent out 5 dwarf militia with mediocre skills and killed about 20 zombies with them. The rest will make for good training when I send dwarves out on patrol.

>>166575359
It's a meme you dip

>>166575582
Well that's news to me. I posted that screenshot and I was unaware that it was a meme.

>>166574951
For forts it's nice, but twbt crashes adventurer mode so I don't even bother with it since it's annoying to enable/disable.

>>166575740
Unintentional meming is the sport's truest form.

dorfs r gay

>>166576507
no u

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>tfw before I took a break from DF, I used to have the greatest, most fantastic world ever
>There was a river, with shit flinging elves up stream in a forest
>By the ocean's shore down river, there was a great volcano, with all the metals, sand and soil you'd ever want
>At the foot of the volcano, was a human city, full on Dale/Erebor monster races scattered around, everything just close enough together that it gave you that nice, snug adventure fantasy feeling
>The geography of the volcano lended itself perfectly for an amazing fort, with even a river going by for water needs
>Always dreamed of eventually losing my forth to some invading force, so that then I can raise a peasant adventurer, whose life goal is to reclaim the legendary mountain home Thorin Oakenshield style
>I had the seeds for this amazing world written up
>I've lost it, and I've no idea where it is
>No amount of trying to recreate it manages to give the same perfect little capsule of resources and surrounding cultures

>>166576992
It's time for suicide anon

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>>166576992

>>166578470
>spelled right in the image but wrong in the filename
Disgusting

bumpabumpa

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>my custom megabeasts keep picking up worthless objects instead of using superior unarmed attacks
Went as far as to remove the [EQUIPS] tag from them, but they're still fucking stubborn.

>when you're getting 11 fps for no discernable reason

angery.jpg

>>166580827
>tfw my giant crabs are worthless in combat and only can kill people by ramming them to death
trying to make some stuff work in DF is suffering

Is it a waste to use adamantine on bolts? How do the physics on bolts work, does the weight matter? Am I better off using strictly steel?

>>166582890
start with the wiki, eventually end up in various !!SCIENCE!! threads that show experiments.

>>166582890
they are way too light to penetrate anything.

When will toady implement the ability to force hospitalization? My really good speardwarf's face is rotting off from an infection that nobody will do anything about.

>>166582890
Their weight is more than compensated for by their sharpness and hardness. Adamantine bolts are the best bolts in the game. However, using such a limited resource on a disposable object is (arguably) a waste anyway.

>>166583597
Hasn't been true for years.

>>166584236
From a damaged nose or ear? Unless you've modded cartilage to heal it won't matter. Your speardwarf is going to die. He's probably already been treated and released because there's nothing else for the doctors to do.

>>166584618
Both. Looking at his character screen he's already gone pale. Do you recommend modding cartilage to heal?

Also just going to dig into hell and be done with this fortress tbqh. I fucking hate when I lose dwarves to bugs.

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>>166585714
very nice, although it's slightly abstract it seems so figurative to me

>>166584236
this
I need more control over hospitalization

>>166584942
>Do you recommend modding cartilage to heal?
Absolutely. It's a mod that everyone should make everytime they download a new version. You should also do nail, claw and talon, which all also lack the ability to heal. In tissue_template.txt add [HEALING_RATE:1000] to their raw entries. That's the same as bone, but slower than soft tissues. Look at another entry to make sure I'm right about the underscore and no space after the colon, I can never remember which was is correct off hand.

How can I make the rapist work on the current version?

>>166586323
delete data folder

So are we back to danger rooms being the only viable way to train your dwarves up in a reasonable amount of time? The dwarves will do individual drills/demonstrations while training, but they never spar. And yes, I am aware of the bug where the minimum number of dwarves required to execute a schedule order actually means it's the exact number of dwarves required to do it.

>>166588803
>back
what happened?

>>166588803
Danger rooms don't work anymore you retard

>>166588803
what the fuck are you on about? my dorfs are sparring as normal, and getting swole as fuck doing it.

>>166588803
That bug was fixed in 2014. Dwarves train properly now, with no scheduling tricks required. Danger rooms, however, no longer work, and are guaranteed to maim or kill your dwarves thanks to the new force translation mechanics. You just need to wait longer, unskilled dwarves aren't meant to spar. Once they've picked up some moderate amount of skill from demonstrations and individual drills, they'll begin sparring. The ease of getting an unkillable legendary militia is one of the main complaints of people who argue (correctly, in this case) that DF is too easy.

>>166578649
Both are acceptable spellings depending on which side of the pond you find yourself. It's not as bad as people who favour adding an extra 'u' in their colour and humour, more like the shade of grey about whether gray has an 'e' or has an 'a'.

>>166580827
Grasps means they'll do that shit, but thankfully objects get destroyed when used like this, so no more socks with twenty thousand kills on them.

>>166585714
>murderhobo chic

>>166589763
[SKILL_LEARN_RATE:AXE:50]
[SKILL_LEARN_RATE:HAMMER:50]
[SKILL_LEARN_RATE:SHIELD:50]
[SKILL_LEARN_RATE:WRESTLING:50]
[SKILL_LEARN_RATE:MELEE_COMBAT:50]
[SKILL_LEARN_RATE:DODGING:50]
[SKILL_LEARN_RATE:ARMOR:50]

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Part of me is frustrated by the big mountains which prevent enemies from getting close, but man the closer to default settings do make some inviting looking spots sometimes.

So I mined into hell to destroy my fort and all but one dwarf is dead, the remaining dwarf being the expedition leader who killed 3 demons before he was knocked unconscious ontop of a cage trap which saved his life. Is there any way to save him, either in this current fortress mode or in adventure mode? Will he bleed out/starve in there if I wait for migrants to come by and enable fast/tele dwarves to get him out?

>>166594149
He'll dehydrate before he starves.

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>>166594917
welp.

Rip in piece Mosus Ethabdakost. One of your kills was stolen from you, but the world will know you did all the heavy lifting regardless. Not too shabby for a legendary miner wielding only a copper pickaxe, Armok shines upon ye.

>>166545450
is this some pasta?

>>166564158
>above ground fort
are you literally an elf?

>>166596928
>I used the meme again xDDD
Most of the time, building large structures above ground requires ridding the area of all trees. This is 100% irreconcilable with elf ethics.

I bet you thing using wood furniture is elfy too, despite the fact that a real elf would never cut down a tree.

Stupid memer.

>>166597409
>embarking on an area with trees
disgusting

>>166597591
I embark wherever there's a sedimentary layer.

Why should I let some trees stop me?

Is there a point for channel mining? It feels weird to have barren layers of rock stacked upon each other connected by a central staircase.

So how do you lads metalwork? Do you establish forges near the magma sea and minecart material up and down? Do you pumpstack/minecart magma up to the surface? Or do you stick with wood as your primary fuel source?

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You can eventually get sieged by the goblin army master demon right?

my fort is running at 2 fps right now and I've just been letting run in the background while checking in every now and again and I dont want to just mine into hell and let everyone die so im pretty bored with it, really just waiting for sieges

>>166599021
>2 fps
>still playing it
you're the good kind of crazy

>>166570692
this is how my very first fort went down.
didn't know about lycanthropy.
it was a weregiraffe for me though.

>>166599021
>You can eventually get sieged by the goblin army master demon right?
you used to. I haven't had it happen since 0.34, though.

>>166599358
i downloaded 34.11 yesterday, but it just won't launch.
makes a tiny black window and nothing happens.
kinda disappointed.

>>166599269
2 minutes for a dwarf to walk 20 tiles isn't too long...

>>166599358
ah, that's disappointing, I'll still wait and see though

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>>166599358
If you're a juicy target near the main spire it can still happen, yeah.

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>>166599859

>>166599859
seed?

>>166599859
>that secluded mount doom evil shrubland

Fuckin baller. Beautiful map, shame there's no gobbos or towers to embark next to though, so it's kind of wasted.

>>166600080
>>166601548
http://pastebin.com/cUU1cEBE

>>166602089
You'll get a different layout of civs with vanilla, I've got gobs/dorfs building sites on glaciers/tundra in my entity, I'd be interested in seeing how they come out differently with different entity settings.

>>166602108
thanks senpai

any general tips on how to actually get cool worlds out of the advanced generator? I always get crap or it wont generate.

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>>166602108
A lot of fiddling around with the settings until you get a feel for what does what which is kinda hard to explain. The big mountain ranges with the little pockets inside were from the elevation variance being in the 400/400 to 800/800 range, the ocean running down the middle happens because I've got the low/mid elevation squares at the end of advanced worldgen set to 20k each, with 10k high elevation, then turn down the rejection types (minimum forest squares/regions/minimum hill squares/etc) until you get a level that generates reliably with features you're after.

Really the best thing is to grab perfect world and play with the noise generator sliders in the various tabs and enjoy the gorgeous mathematical shit it makes.

>>166597409
shut the fuck up elfboy

go build your little treehouses

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>>166545450
Pasta, delicious and fresh

>forget mandate
>get scared because it's usually my blacksmiths that do the job
>mason gets his head exploded into gore instead

A noble sacrifice for the future of Airwires. Your efforts won't be forgotten, Dakost.

>>166608578
>establishing a sheriff
m8, why would you do that? Let the mayor/nobles stew in their highly decorated bedrooms, don't waste valuable dwarfs.

>>166608820
I like nobles and everything that comes with it, it's a nice feature. It's past time I made a prison though.

>tfw your +pepperoni pizza roast+ hasn't arrived yet and you feel like throwing a cabinet at a cat

Page 10 has bypassed your inaccessible site.

>>166612438
>the *Marble Cabinet* hits the cat in the neck, and the severed part flies off in an arc!

>he didn't feel anything after seeing a /dfg/ died recently

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>>166612438
>tfw the only thing you ate in the past 24 hours are 2 slices of pizza

what share do you think threetoe gets from the sweet, sweet monthly donations?
25%?

>>166612848
>the xXsevered cat neckXx strikes the thread in the lower body, bruising the fat through the pages of waifu threads
>it is a gelding blow!
>/dfg/ gives in to pain
>/dfg/ falls over
>/dfg/ vomits
>the vomit disappears into the pile of dead threads

How good is turtle shell armor? I'm in desperate need of armor and have lots of turtle shells and don't have enough animals for some leatherworking.

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>>166617803
its worse than bone. If u want to have decent armor use copper. It's better than that. Turtle is better than nothing thouhg

>>166618246
>>166617803
Are there even any animal products that translate well into armor?

>>166618472
Leather is better than shell stuff, silk is good if layered with other armor, bone is better than nothing but that isn't saying a whole lot.

Turtle shell ARTIFACT armor would be indestructible of course.

>>166620016
Being indestructible doesn't make it more protective. It just means it won't be degraded when attacks pierce it, which will be every successful attack from any metal weapon. The material is still shit against anything other than elf weapons and the natural weapons of smaller animals.

Does "inside-light-above ground" counts to avoid cave adaptation?

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>Migrants arrive
>20 Dwarven Children
What is the best and quickest way to dispose of them?

>>166622457
Uh, I've had all sorts of success with crappy armor turning aside attacks/impacts due to being artifact quality.

>>166623568
If the tile is directly connected to the outside yes, last time I really tried to avoid it I used glass roofing but it didn't work.

>>166624823
>I used glass roofing but it didn't work.

fuck

I guess I'll have to keep relying on humans for stuff that doesn't come into the fort.

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>>166627197

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>>166627384

>>166551639

>>166552532
We could grow them in labs decades ago. The diamond cartel somehow convinced them not to compete by producing gem quality diamonds.

>>166561949
Sell it or wear it.

>>166562668
>have only four z levels of gabbro

>>166566735
I wish I could figure out how to generate a situation like that. Could you possibly share your worldgen settings?

>>166566852
I wish XP were still supported.

>>166571103
If I'm not mistaken multilevel view is part of TWBT which is notorious for causing crashes. I guess some people might also find it ugly.

>>166575582
There's no need to be rude. Yes, I know there's a Youtube video of some annoying child saying that phrase is an impatiently condescending tone, but that's not justification in my book, nor would I consider that to give it status as a proper meme. Perhaps it is properly considered a meme elsewhere, but such places are beneath us here in /dfg/.

>>166584942
Don't give up so easily. Just make a nice tomb for him and carry on. Disease is a fact of life, and although it's very rare in DF relative to IRL, there's no dishonor in losing a dorf to it every now and then.

>>166592495
> more like the shade of grey about whether gray has an 'e' or has an 'a'
That made me smile.

>>166593289
If only those two lakes were a bit closer together, then it'd be really interesting.

>>166597861
He wants you to let the trees stop you because he is an elf posing as a dwarven prophet of Armok. Is it not obvious? The whole anti-wood-use, anti-being-anywhere-near-trees meme is an elven propaganda operation.

>>166598204
Yes? You're not supposed to use it everywhere.

>>166627197
>>166627384
>>166627634
You seem to really like that filename.

>>166564158
Dwarves can shoot up or down two levels. Build guard towers that have their firing stations 1 level above your (presumably 1 block high) walls and they'll be able to shoot down at the ground but also able to hit keas much more of the time. Clear out all the trees in a wide radius around your fort (at least have no trees within 20 blocks of any of your walls) and then simply station crossbowmen in the towers. After a while they'll be legendary marksdwarves and your kea problem will mysteriously have vanished.

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>>166627713
>You seem to really like that filename.
When it fits

>>166566406
Just a quick tip: Don't make full addy armour for your squads, it's actually worse than steel against everything except addy. This is because its far lower mass prevents it from blocking as much blunt damage, while steel is hard enough to turn away everything with a blade except steel spears or daggers, which you will never ever have to fight in vanilla. What addy is best reserved for is mail shirts, for two reasons: 1 because chainmail is not rigid, and blocks no blunt damage anyway, so the only disadvantage to using addy over steel is removed. 2 because mail shirts have the best coverage of any item of armour while being pretty cheap, so you get the best bang for your buck.

>>166593289
Looks really cool, seed?

>>166624406
Dwarven childcare. If it's your first time setting it up, there are bound to be casualties.

>>166628075
Oh and to add to this, addy is best used in weapons. Addy mail is something you should make if absolutely every military dwarf is wielding an adamantine blade (axes being the best option), because those blades will slice straight through a stone demon or FB, and of course will cut as if armour just isn't there. But don't make adamantine hammers or maces. Being featherlight is a poor quality in blunt weapons.

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>>166628405
Didn't complete that world-gen because the civs didn't load around the right spots, but it was very similar world-gen settings to this one: >>166602108

>>166629061
Don't neglect cloaks, keeping a couple of units of thread forbidden in case you get a weaver who likes cloaks ready to mood, a flat out "ha ha, fuck you" to blades.

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Is the board acting weird or did I just stroke out for a bit there?

>>166633535
You mean the software or the users?

>>166633965
Software, the users are always weird.

Is there any sort of apprentice mechanic in Dwarf Fortress? Like, can I tell, say, a legendary carpenter to take some vomit-cleaning runt as apprentice, to improve his skills faster?

I've heard soldiers can teach each other or something similar.

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>dedthred

>>166636114
>Is there any sort of apprentice mechanic in Dwarf Fortress?
no.

>I've heard soldiers can teach each other or something similar.
yeah.

>>166624406
one thing i did once was to reserve a whole z-level to make a shitload of 1x1 rooms with doors.

apparently children love to roam these places, and once in a while i'd check that level and lock any door with a children in it and let them die of hunger and thirst in their small personal tomb.

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>>166627871

>>166636114
>Is there any sort of apprentice mechanic in Dwarf Fortress?
Yes but it's not a player mechanic.
>Like, can I tell, say, a legendary carpenter to take some vomit-cleaning runt as apprentice, to improve his skills faster?
No.
>I've heard soldiers can teach each other or something similar.
Yes, military dwarves will teach other dwarves in their squad during training.

phuk were-niggers

>>166637596
seriously fuuuuck

200 dwarves and falling fast because of this bullshit

>>166637596
>his fort wasn't perfectly separated from the surface world by a 30 z-level deep pit, multiple reverse pyramid walls and floor hatches above entrance staircase

>>166638306

I have a perfectly fine moat, and a 6 squad army, but I can't do anything to stop people from getting scratched or bit even if I obliterate the werepig in like 10 seconds, even locking them in the hospital to starve doesn't work because they transform before they starve to death might try setting up some cage traps or something near the hospital doors

>>166638423
Your mistake was engaging werebeasts at melee combat

>>166638459

Didn't have a choice, he pretty much spawned on top of my fisherdwarves and it all went to hell from there

>>166627810
>Dwarves can shoot up or down two levels.
I don't know about up, but they can shoot down further than that; I just exploited that fact to murderize a dragon. I'm pretty sure they were still firing on it with it 7 z levels below them. Dragons, on the other hand, cannot get their fire to go more than 1 z level above them.

>>166636114
There's some sort of apprentice mechanic for scholars. I don't know how it works offhand. I don't think there's anything for carpenters, though there might be for a few skills which are both scholar and labor related, though the only one of those I can think of is mechanic.

>>166637928
200 dwarves is after significant casualties?!?

>>166638423
>not knowing how to quarantine dwarves
>not being able to deal with werebeasts with a full 6 squad army
>not knowing how to build an execution chamber if you really need to
Heck, why are you even letting them out of the hospital when they fail to starve to death? I don't normally say this, but git gud.

>>166637928
lern2quarantine
lern2burrow
lern2militia

or as we usually put it: git gud

>>166637928
Set up a danger room and have bitten dwarves train in them.

>>166638890

Went from 230 to 184 as of yet, and im not letting them out werebeasts can break doors, it's difficult to keep track of who need to be quarantined and honestly I don't know how to move an unconscious dwarf to where I want want even if I did want to kill him

>>166639320
>go through the combat logs
>give whoever got bitten the custom profession name "infectee"
Is what I always do. It makes it easier to manage. If a bitten dorf turns out to be non-infected, I remove the nickname and let them return to work as usual.

>>166638674
Build a fishermans hut that you can lock away from the surface

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welp, werepig just transformed in the middle of my tavern filled with around 100 various bards, poets and dancers, bye bye fortress.

>>166616258
they live together, money is for the both of them

>>166616014
Atleast you won't get fat

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>>166641089

>his "tavern" is just a small rectangle full of booze and levers instead of a glorious multilevel work of art full of statues, dance floors and a bard stage

>>166641089
>that cheeky swastika to the right
You're a pretty cool guy.

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>>166642104

doesnt need to be extravagant when I got this as a centerpiece

RandomDragon/chaosvolt is such a sperglord He either ends up amusing me or making me tsk tsk to myself.

>>166642257
Maybe if you'd used that adamantine to make a suit of armour none of your dwarves would be werepigs

>>166642426
>guy asks about chemical reactions or something in FOTF
>randomdragon: it'd be a shame if someone used that to mod in VORE if you catch my drift
>guy: yeah haha, but let's return to the matter at hand
>randomdragon: didn't you get it? VORE! HAHA

Woah I thought we were talking about SS13 for a second

>>166622457
Artifact armor has a higher chance of making attacks be deflected regardless of material. I still souldnt recommend relying on it, because of rarity and the fact that turtle shells are turtle shells regardless of quality. Upgrade ASAP, a low quality steel armor set is at least as good' if not better than artifact turtle shell.

>>166642934
Does that mean Artifact Adamantine weapons are particularly good?

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>>166643015

not always

>>166643015
If they are edged, they will basically cut through anything like butter with around 30× the sharpness of a steel artofact (adamantine holds a 10× blade base mult, plus the 3× mult from artifact quality) if its a hammer then its shit. Wooden hammers are better than adamantine ones because adamantine is not dense enough to hurt amything. It just bounces off.

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That split second combat moment of mass grappling.

>>166643956
Sorry. The adamantine is 10× sharper. The artfact quality gives a 3× higher chance of hitting the target.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php

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>>166643994

>>166643994
>here we have a dwarf, a prone dwarf, a prone dwarf, a prone human, a prone dwarf, a prone animalman, a prone...

>>166644767
>all in a pool of vomit.

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It keeps happening!

there's 0 way to tell who gets infected, I fucking labeled all the wounded and was working on a murder chamber but apparently some random fucks who weren't even wounded in the last attack transformed as well.

>>166639320
How to move an unconscious dwarf you say?

Well, it starts with "m" and ends with "inecarts" and you basically aim it like you would an air hockey puck.

>>166643994
>OOOHH

>>166644870
>and a goblin maceman standing in his own guts and a slurry of blood-soaked tears, sweat, and vomit.

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>butterfly girl as diplomat

fucking elves, s-send one of y-you're own

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So how do you picture animal people? I usually see them as a 1 or 2 on the scale.

>>166645965
Human with animal head, and whatever extra features like wings for bird people
Which is basically the way game descrives them

>>166642934
Well of course it does. The artifact quality is what gives it that bonus, though, not its indestructibility. In the next update there's a good chance artifacts will lose that feature anyway. The point of my post was that indestructibility != impenetrability, and that material is a much more important factor than quality. Given a choice between a no quality metal armor piece and an artifact animal product armor piece, the metal piece is the right choice every time.

>>166645965
I usually picture them as they are described in game, namely as humans (with hairy/scaly/feathered bodies) with animal heads and eventual animal limbs.

When I'm in a weeb mood, I imagine them as number 1.

>>166645965
>tfw fap to 5
One day I should stop

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>>166646034
This more or less.

>>166645965
I like to imagine they vary between all 5 forms. Pity there is no way to edit the raws to reflect that as far as I know.

>>166644963
There is a way to tell. Read combat reports, every single one. You're only looking for bites that break the skin. If you think someone was infected who wasn't bitten, you're mistaken. That's the only way the curse is transmitted.

>>166641089
>>166642104
>>166642257

Can´t help but picture this as a tightly packed dwarven disco, with the main event playing that resplendent etol.
Goblin moshpits.
Human disco-moves.
Nude elven bards doing their tree-twerking thang.
Dwarven BASS DROPS

Drinks are on the house(until a jihadist werepig massacres the club and forcibly converts the survivors to his faith)!

Scary butt fun

>>166646634
>BRRAAAAHHP

>>166646285
>One day I should stop
you should stop now

>>166646437

Reading 100 combat reports is beyond me, there's literally upwards of a 100 people attacking at once at this point im just gonna let this either resolve on it's own or end up with a fort of werepigs

>>166647562
If you're one of the people who likes to micro and save your fortress then you have to do it, otherwise sit back and watch the fireworks

>>166647256
One day I will stop

But that day is not today

I got sick of the people in the tavern transforming so I ordered my soldiers to kill everyone in there and now my soldiers and citizens are slaughtering each other while werepigs and soldiers murder taverngoers and each other

the tale of lasharmor!

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>>166648778

>>166648778
Sounds like a pretty good party.

Take two at the clay

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>>166649908
Picture was upside down.
Dont know how that happened.

>>166642702
>df
>ss13
You have good taste anon.

>>166650041
That's pretty good. A lot better than the first ones you posted forever ago.

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>>166650250
Thanks,
borrowed a camera for these pictures.

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>tfw your law-giver is a roach woman

>"Urist likes roach men for their ability to disgust."

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>>166645835
thats pretty cool

>>166645965
I think 4.

>Invaders can climb walls and pits
how do you defend your fortress if its not placed underground ?
need some tips

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>>166652117
Like this

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>>166652117
>>166652349
Also like this

>>166652117
big lavas and big trapses and big archererses

is it possible to use mechanics to make a piston or something to mass move items for traps and shit?

>>166652117
Look into minecart grinders

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>>166628405
Now this one I went ahead and let generate for a bit: http://pastebin.com/V9MXT90q

>what a world, oh what a world

>tfw you will never build a segregated fort split into upper class and lower class and dump all the nobles refuse and filth on the plebs through an intricate sewer system

>>166653116
It's funny because on bay12 if you mention sewage it causes a huge controversy meanwhile here it's pretty much accepted as a would-be improvement.

>>166653532
we also have differences on that here senpai
>>166652676
though I'd want that, this aint minecraft

>>166653116
Why won't you?

>>166653532
If by "pretty much accepted" you mean "repeatedly wanked over by a couple of basement dwellers with scat and/or vore fetishes" then yeah. It totally is.

>>166653532
>some of the power goals include losing a ring you were trying to retrieve in a sewer and having to dig through it
>getting wounded while escaping through a sewer and worrying about infection
>having your guts wounded and your own waste infecting the wound

>>166653102
The more I look around at that map the more dang I am.

>the secluded chunk up in the northwest with 11 dark fortresses and dozens of pits plus a volcano that might sit on an evil ocean
>a vile force of darkness has arrived!
>'Oi, Urist, spin up the Whalegun.'
>goblins start to head for a freshly opened route into the fort
>minecart slams into a wall 1-z below it
>dozens of giant zombie sperm whales are ejected through the fortification just across from that inviting door

>the little nook of forests and lakes and mountains with pits and fortresses lining it halfway down on the west edge
>the rivers lined with hamlets running through valleys in the northeast mountains

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Why aren't there Orcs in DF?

Why don't the Elves, Humans and Goblins have Wizards, Sorcerers and Shamans to cast spells and make magic items?

>>166654403
Because you haven't learned to mod yet.

>>166654962
Basically.

>>166653636
i there like a mod that adds it and other mechanical things?

i wanna make a wacky fort

>Want to play game
>Remember all the cool stuff coming out in the next update
>Don't want to play game.

>>166657672
Very nice.

>>166657672
>human pikeman
>doesn't wield a pike
Epic

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>>166657672
>Well Wishonac had a big bronze bevor and she wore it everywhere
>Then one day some geezer tried to feed her and she got *cat liver roast* everywhere!

im trying to play DF for the first time, i am trying the Lazy Newb Pack put when i run the Starter pack launcher, it wont work, nothing happens.


And the worst of all is that i just can't find no one with the same error as me on google

win 7 btw

>>166661358
It's a bug, wait for the new version, which will come out soon

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>>166654962
>>166655472
But why not in the base game?

>>166654403
Goblins are orcs

>>166662213
Goblins are to DF what Orcs are to other games. Orcs would only serve a meme purpose.

Wizards will be a thing once we get to the myth arc, in roughly a year.

>>166662506
""""""""""""""""rougly""""""""""""""""

>>166661494

but i got the urge to play this now after spending some time in rinworld

is it easy to setup the game plus a tileset?

>>166662506
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>>166662691
Ok, time to stop memeing

Yes, it's easy, and also, LNP is outdated right now, download the 43.05 version of DF, a tileset if you want, and an alpha release of dfhack for the current version, since it has a labor manager and the therapiss is outdated right now

>>166662585
>>166662823
Keep those quote marks under control, please.

>>166662691
Tilesets for jerks.

>http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=162489.0
what an obnoxious idiot

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bumpö the fuckint threwad

>>166665595
THREWAD

>>166666989
>people so new they don't know that only repeating digits on /vg are fuck you I ain't spoonfeeding your retarded ass

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>>166668996
wut

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Favorite Threetoe story?

Mine probably has to be "A Terror to Behold". It makes me excited for the 5000 years it'll take for night creatures and night creature hunting to be elaborated upon.

>>166670006
>>166670006
Funny fact: if you make your world monopolar, a smaller part of it will be freezing, meaning that the game will be more enjoyable in both modes.

>>166671312
For me it was a disappointment. The story was written in anticipation of the night creature release, and I was disappointed that it hyped a type of night creature that didn't even make it into the game. I really thought that we'd get those "stalkers" or whatever they were called.

Whenever I browse the bay12 forums, I thank God that most of those people doen't know about /dfg/s existance.

>>166671450
I actually like the freezing sections, I only leave the tropics strip so I can bump into the stuff there.

>>166671312
I've played DF since 2009 or 2010 and I've never read a single one.

Fuck, man, why cant Toady make a less retarded job asignment system.

And also DFHack is fucking kill isnt it

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Can someone redpill me on retire fortress?

>>166654403
>Why aren't there Orcs in DF?
because they were called goblins in the hobbit

>>166675780
Job assignment is fine and so is dfhack.

>>166676287
It's a jewish conspiracy.

>>166676595
Why don't the goblins ever rape anyone?

>>166676603
>manually assigning the job of every single dwarf separately
>fine

Honestly, DFHack made a great job with labour assignment.

>>166654403
>Why aren't there Orcs in DF?
Because Goblins work better as an evil version of the player race.
>Why don't the Elves, Humans and Goblins have Wizards, Sorcerers and Shamans to cast spells and make magic items?
Because Toady is afraid of industrialized magic.

>>166676768
Yes, it's fine.
And I don't know why you're referring to dfhack in the past tense as if it were something that no longer exists. Go to the github link in the OP and stop whining. All of the tools you need to avoid having to manage your dwarves are available to you right now.

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>accidently sent my hydra to the butcher's

Why is it so comfy to start out as a guard in a town and as you get your first mission to run some ruffians out of town you hear them starting to mug someone so you run out and interrupt it, leading to all your friends jumping in and brutally murdering the poor fuckers?

>>166677734
Hey, at least you've got like a billion tons of hydra meat to make high value meals from!

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>>166677734
por hydre

>>166662213
Also copyright issues with the Tolkien estate I believe.

>>166680094
But it's free.
Or is that only with open source games like Angband and forks?

Do you use blocks or rough stone for walls?

>>166680094
Orcs aren't copyrighted, but hobbits are. Plenty of settings have orcs, but hobbits are always "halflings" because the Tolkien estate's lawyers when on a rampage in the 90s threatening lawsuits left and right.

>>166680231
I'm not sure, but I think the Tolkien estate tends to be faggots about it wherever possible. I was reading the old thread on bay12 when Toady was describing what he was adding before the game was released, and hobbits were mentioned and he said he couldn't for that reason. I think it was similar for orcs. But then as other posters said the difference between orcs and goblins is ambiguous/nonexistent in Tolkein, although nowadays usually goblins are like green pointy eared underlings whereas orcs are like bigger and stronger.

>>166680758
Ah I see.

>>166680889
>Difference between orcs and goblins

You're right, though the Uruk-Hai are analogous to what modern common fantasy orcs are, while Tolkien Goblins/Orcs range from hobbit-sized to man-sized, to some exceptional orcs who are much larger than men, making them kind of fall in to both the Green Midget and modern Orc archetypes, depending on their size and ferocity.

>>166654403
Toady doesn't really want DnD-type magic to be the default. I'm sure he'll make it possible, but your standard world won't have wizards throwing fireballs and all that.

>>166671718
That's very understandable. I guess it's because I didn't read any of the stories at that point in the update timeline, I wasn't hyping myself up for it. I listened to the DF talk about night creatures like a year after that update hit

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That was almost !!Science!! on my part, but it is done and it worked.

You can in fact equip a shield on to your forearm via dfhack, it works properly, lets you block with it, and you can still use that hand as though the shield were just strapped on rather than held constantly.

>>166680584
Natural smoothed stone to fuck over climbers, blocks if I need to get a bunch of the wrong colored stuff covered up, you know, puddingstone, orthoclase, black people, out of place gem clusters, and so forth.

Why doesnt the king come
I have 50k exports
50k offerings
200 population
barony status