/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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i liek elv.

do yuo liek elv?

how bout dem dorfs

im more of a goblin man myself

>>166258481
Remove elf

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>>166258548
Dem dorfs mayn.

>>166261191
>golden age
>you only have copper

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>a few months into first embark
>two of my miners die in a cave-in
>only have one miner left
>it's about to become winter and I don't have jack for stockpile space
>mfw

>>166263227
>only have copper
wut

>>166263468
Stockpiles are overrated. The only kind you really need is food stockpiles, especially early on.

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>>166265783
You can use QSP's with minecarts too.

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WHY THE FUCK DOES MY MILITARY KEEP KILLING CIVILIANS ITS LIKE THE FOURTH ONE THEY HAVE KILLED SINCE I EMBARKED WHAT THE FUCK

So apparently version 0.43.05 added armor and weapon damage, (according to http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=162260.0) but I can't find anything in the changelog to suggest that.

Does anyone know what they're talking about?

>>166267123
If you mean the changelog on the bugtracker, it only lists bugfixes. You'll want to read the release notes in the announcements subforum. I think the change went in with 43.04, though.

>>166267123
>So apparently version 0.43.05 added armor and weapon damage
It was added already in 0.43.04.

05 just fixed some bug and added 64 bit.

>>166267331
>>166267410
Ah, much obliged. I haven't played since 0.42.06, how's the new version feel like?

Also, did the change to armour and weapons finally make maces viable?

>>166266815
Are the dwarves attacking civilians members of the fortress guard?
If you don't have a prison or a hammerer the fortress guard may have to deal with offenders by beating the shit out of them.

>>166267774
Yeah, my military are also fortress guards and the late mason violated the mayor's mandate.
Continuing to beat the shit out of him after his spine is broken is a bit much in my opinion.

>>166267517
Not very different, as the small increment in version would indicate.
Maces have always been viable. They were, like most other weapons, only optimal in certain circumstances. The changes may have slightly expanded those circumstances. More by narrowing the niches of other weapons than by buffing maces, though.

>>166267864
That's why you shouldn't allow trained soldiers to give beatings. An untrained law enforcer may cripple someone for life with a beating, but a trained one will almost always kill the felon.

Also, you might want to consider not ignoring the mandates. That's the root of everything.

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Fuckin' metal

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>>166268241
>tfw no feels

>>166268241
Hopefully you gave him an Axe or Mace to beat invaders to death with

That's fucking metal

how do i stop a cave infestation or how do i remove it?

>>166268934
Cave infestation? Like mold?

>>166268241
>>166268797
I wish I could track down whoever invented the "fucking metal" meme and kill him with my own hands. It's the most cringeworthy meme there ever was.

It implies that a music genre for edgy children would somehow be a measure for things even outside of the subculture.

>>166268980
Sperging out over the term "metal"? Cringey.

>>166268934
those are dwarves, anon

>>166269209
Remove Dwarf!

>>166269075
Indeed, also gotta love lumping in Zep with whatever random shit they think metal is to make it suitable only for edgy children.

>251 embark points
>all the neccesities already bought
what do?

>>166269687
booze

>>166268980
I hate the music genre but don't mind the meme.

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>>166269687
Horses.

>an evil force has come to this and that
>siege warning
>goes away in less than 5 seconds

what is this

>>166269687
Buy some gay garden vegetables and make an above ground farm.
>>166268241
First time playing dwarf fortress?

>>166270119
Goblin practical jokers, bet there's a burning sack of troll shit on your stoop!

>>166270119
The goblin army probably couldn't find your fort and left.

>>166270190
actually I don't even have enough dwarves for sieges yet

Why do dwarves only put like 1/3 of the corpses on the corpse stockpile?

is this game an Australia simulator?

>>166270290
Parts of it are.

>>166270237
Could just be some goblin bandits then.

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>made 100 fucking ash instead of coal

>>166270483
Useful for your glass industry. Now you're one step further on the road to create clear glass.

Can i kill all goblins to extinction? and rape them?

>>166269413
>you can't critisise a genre if some of the content has cult status

>>166270894
>Can i kill all goblins to extinction
Yeah, but you probably don't have the patience for it.

>and rape them?
Not in my Christian game.

>>166271014
Toady is an atheist. Sorry church kid.

>>166271075
Prove it.

Games like "I'm Voting for Myself" suggest that he had a strict religious upbringing, and while he might have temporarily rebelled against it, you usually end up where your parents want you in the end.

>kid walks under drawbridge as it opens

>>166271217
RIP

>>166266605
explain

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>>166270948
Indeed, but "x is for edgy y" isn't criticism.

Track cart with route set to accept items from a certain pile and dump towards a single tile pile with no links which accepts the items from the route.

>>166271217
>pic

Why do some unit names flash?

>>166271146
Toady is an atheist, the only thing he believes is himself. He is the bringer of suffering and madness, a monster born from the flesh of men, the antichrist prowling the earth. In his mind, devious engines work restlessly in his machinations for the destruction and suffering of common people. Under the flag of "it's a myth simulator" he destroys what was once great, bit by bit, release by release. Dwarf fortress is as, by now, a sick man dying of cancer in a hospital bed, all by the work of Toady1. You can see his mark in the game itself, all livings beings are subject to his devilry, terrible work and living conditions, all the while waiting for inevitable doom coming from under or above the earth. Demons and beasts and gods in several forms and shapes, with a monstrous variety of abilities to support its thirst for blood. We must struggle through living hell, subjects to silly, easily fixable "issues" such as climbing, pathing FPS murder and other little devilries. Toady removed some of the best features because "they were glitched" as he says, tormenting us in an endless wait for what will never come. His purpose is clear, he is a monstrosity who takes pleasure in our pain, a psychopath hiding in an autism disguise. He has us bound by our own desires as we pay for his living expenses, and now he will do whatever he pleases with us. How can such a creature be born is beyond knowledge, he is fouler than all the beasts this game could possibly create, his bald head shines with thoughts far beyond the scope of humanity, a dark, endless pit of vile ideas. We all know it deep down, what he is and what we're doing here. We prefer to ignore reality for a little respite, but doom will come to all of us once light reveals the truth. After he has drained what little life remains, he will leave us with a broken, unfinished thing, a community that will grow and branch into thousands of groups trying to copy the skills of the devil himself. Nothing will remain.

>>166271871
They have achieved a legendary skill rating. Or they're on fire.
--> http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Status_icon

>>166271985
Bonus if they're legendary AND on fire, like a little walking disco ball.

>>166272368
what happens if they're legendary, on fire and releasing a mixtape?

>>166272434
Then shit is, to use the vernacular, off the hook.

>>166257058
Decent user interface when ?
I'm not going to relearn all the keybindings for the nth time.

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>>166273208
Never
git gud or fuck off

>>166271957
read it completely
good new pasta

>>166273538
Ain't got time to git good again every fucking time.
It's that fatfuck of Toady that should git gud instead and work on the goddamn UI.
Or at least give a way to modders to implement one, for fucks sake. Were it possible I'd do it myself.

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>>166273208
>>166273770
>tfw too smart to forget df

must be hard being one of the lesser people

>>166273770
>every fucking time
the fuck are you on about
the UI hasn't changed at all, only minor things were added like [d] button for details

>>166273208
There is no need to "re"learn it.

You learn it once, then you get more fluent as you play. I could never imagine myself forgetting the interface.

>>166272434
The game hasn't the mechanics to deal with so much fire
It'll have to wait a few years

>>166273770
like>>166273820 and >>166273823 say
You truly are a brainlet if you have to ''''re-learn'''' the UI every time, cheers from /sci/

>>166273824
Sure, just try waiting 2+ years and see how well you remember where all the stuff is.
We'd only need integration with LUA or any other scripting language to build the interface DF deserves, but no.
It's pointless you complain about people complaining the current interface. The truth is that you all are crying inside and the pain eventually makes you numb.

>>166274092
>The truth is that you all are crying inside and the pain eventually makes you numb.
New to 4chan and/or DF?
We already know that you normie
We all deadinside autists here
Toady is literally a necro that made internet his tower

>>166274092
>Sure, just try waiting 2+ years and see how well you remember where all the stuff is.
The thing is, I have no plans of abstaining from DF for that long. Since I picked it up in late 2010, I've played it pretty much every day, I have no plans on stopping.

Even if I did, I'm sure I'll remember how to play.

For fucks sake, the buttons are all permanently marked out in fort mode and everything. If you get lost, all you have to do is pause and read through the command list on the main screen.

>>166273770
Toady probably won't try to make the UI better anytime soon

Maybe he will when we reach 0.75 or 1.0

>>166274239
The thing is, no matter how he does it, most of it will largely be an arbitrary mess. I can't even begin to think where and how he should improve it.

I mean, there are the obvious ones, like making the keys for digging stairs consistent with the ones for building them. Plant gathering should probably be integrated into the fruit gathering interface entirely. The military screen is great, but it could stand being a bit easier to navigate.

And probably the biggest needed improvement: we need more search bars, preferably in every menu where you browse in-game items and characters.

Battles and deaths should also be searchable by character names in adv mode conversations. That's a big issue, and would save a lot of time for the players.

>>166274495
The point is he shouldn't, backend developers do the worse interfaces, he just need to enable other people to do it. Eventually some idiot with enough time in his hands will come by and get it done, while Toady can keep on working on the engine adding features and fixing stuff.

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>>166271957
>his bald head shines with thoughts far beyond the scope of humanity

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I'd never save scum in fort mode, but in adventure mode, I do it all the time.

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>>166276683

I've told the nobles about you, and the hammerer is on his way.

Filthy elf.

>>166274653
Yeah well that's not gonna happen, we're going to be stuck with the current UI for a long, long time.

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What a dastardly little dwarf, this is completely useless.

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>>166273538
>KEAnu Reeves
Can't be coincidence.

>A Keanu Reeves has stolen a +larch wheelbarrow+!

>>166277931
Oh shi-

>>166276858
Reminded me of that DF creepypasta where a player finds out that a dorf in the save he got his hands on shared his name, and when the dorf got hurt he could feel the pain IRL. The dorf got a hammerin' in the end.

So I have a huge, sprawling fortress (not bragging, or euphemisticalism), and my miners often get hungry or thirsty after they mine their first tile and then walk all the way back home before heading out again.
Can I force all dwarves to wear waterskins somehow?`

>>166279027
Just make a food stockpile somewhere close to the mines.
You may be able to accomplish something with the military menu, but I wouldn't count on it.

>>166278902
>not abusing the inter-existencial bond with your dwarf
>not altering the raws to make him inmortal and have a 7 inches shlong
>not making him the king of the civ, with his own enormous house with infinite supplies

for shame, I expected more from a DF player

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>>166279748
>7 inches shlong
That's not particularly impressive.

How long can a dwarf train before it becomes useless?

>>166277815
Build a well with it, it will increase the value and your dorfs will be happy with a sublime well

>>166280872
yeah, Im not american, I used a random number of inches

>>166281157
Not american either, but after 5 seconds of ressearch I found out 7 inches = 15cm

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>>166281436
But that's blatantly wrong you double goblin.

>>166281157
If you can edit your dick size at will, nothing under double digits is worth writing home about.

>wonder where the fuck all my marble went
>check my furniture & finished good stockpiles
>marble tables, cabinets, chair and hives out the fucking ass
well that'll teach me to specify material

>>166281081
Read this, thought it was referring to this: >>166280872 which itself I thought was in reply to this: >>166280439


wutness

>>166282324
You should pay more attention to post numbers.

>>166280872
> /dfg/ in charge of judging cocks
wtf

>>166281840
10 inches = 25 cm
kind of overkill, mebbe

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There are some giant dingos on my map. Slay?

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>>166282604

>>166284217
majestic

>>166285184
kek

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>>166285184
lol

>Dwarf axelord hits a goblin in the eyelid doing very little damage to that itself
>Force of the blow explodes the goblins spine into gore
toady is a master of physics

>>166285853
Can you imagine hitting someone in the eyelid IRL without affecting the rest of the head and neck in the least?

>>166285830
Did... did you draw a kobolds junk because drew implied they had large penises?

>>166285853
It's just like a legendary miner that has very little strength actually knows exactly where to strike the earth to make it pulverize with the least amount of effort needed

>>166274092
>Sure, just try waiting 2+ years and see how well you remember where all the stuff is.
Top kek. I quit playing shortly after caverns were added, and got back into it about three weeks ago. That's a 6.5 year gap. And I had no trouble remembering the basic commands (d, b-w, b-C, q, v, t, u, p, i).

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>>166285853

>>166287498
This is one of the best pictures I've seen

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>page 10

>>166290296
Not unexpected

I wonder when will Toady release the next update

>>166290296
Dwarf Fortress might be a ded gaem, but it will never be a dead game. There will always be autists playing it.

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>>166291195
Dwarf fortress is hardly dead, toady just takes a million years to get his spaghettificat, despaghettify and pastalyse his code

>>166279027
You can make almost all dwarves carry backpacks with rations and waterskins with drinks by recruiting them into your military. Unfortunately, that 'almost' excludes miners. Due to (presumably) a bug, miners will remove all of their military uniform and equip a set of civvie clothing everytime they rotate off duty to do their actual job. Giving them picks in their uniform doesn't help; they won't use those picks to mine (and neither will anyone else), they'll have to get a different pick everytime they go off duty. This will include any rations assigned to them. To make matters worse, they'll then take those rations and leave them in their room. They will then rot and generate miasma, because they're considered owned and no dwarf will take them to a food stockpile. Even if they're left on the floor of the room no dwarf will touch them even if you order them dumped until their ownership expires, which takes longer than it takes for them to rot.
Making food stockpiles near their work areas as >>166279120 suggests is only a partial solution. They'll still need dining rooms down there or they'll travel across your whole damn fort with their food to get to one before they eat it. Sometimes they will arbitrarily choose to do that anyway, and sometimes dwarves with no business being that far from their own work areas decide to journey to the depths for a bite. On balance, though, it seems to save a little bit of travel time. To save yourself some additional headache, make appropriate furniture stockpiles near where you'll set up the dining rooms, with wheelbarrows assigned and set to accept from links only with no links. Then set them to take from anywhere after the wheelbarrows have been placed. Else you'll watch dwarves carrying furniture into the depths for a season+ at a time while other dwarves chase them around with buckets of water.
Really, though, this is just the cost of megaforts. At best anything you do will only be a palliative.

>migrant wave
>one migrant has arrived
i-is this bad?

>>166280872
I'm going to engage with you in a fun little game of math.

Dorfs are roughly half as tall as humans.

The dorf has a 7 inch schlong.

>You should be able to solve this.jpeg

>>166270121
>first time playing dwarf fortress?
Not exactly, but it's been a very long time since I last played and I had forgotten everything, so it may as well be.

what do you guys recommend as population cap?
the default 200 seem to just murder my fps pretty fast.
i was thinking 100/125 or something, but i know there are some stuff that only unlock at higher population.

>>166299297
The only thing you need a higher cap for is getting the monarch. You'll need 140 for that, and you'll probably want to increase it to 150-160 right before their arrival so that you can get the monarch's entourage of skilled soldiers. If you don't care about getting the monarch then 125 is fine, you get everything else with a pop gate. That's where I'm capped now. I may step it up at some point.

>>166299297
50

Has anyone actually seen any kobolds or snatchers since v34? Because I don't think I have. They're certainly much more rare now.

>>166301038
Kobolds yes, snatchers no. Snatchers are supposed to be back now, and I've seen others post screenshots of their appearance, but they do seem a lot rarer now.

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rate this bedroom design for the 7 founders

>>166301516
aneurysm illustrated.png

>>166301516
Lots of wasted space, and also it looks like some of those apartments are quite a bit bigger than others.

>>166301908
>>166302851
I wanted to make something that looked a bit more organic than just fucking neat organized symmetrical rows of 2x3 bedrooms

>>166299761
thanks, i'll start with that then, try to get a stable fort before adding more population.

Begone page 10!

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Has anyone tried making a mountainhome fort and then murdering the king in adventure mode and getting out alive?
As a peasant adventurer of course.

Bomp

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great, just what a fledging fort needs

>>166268241
>Watched countless members of his community die, and felt nothing.
>BUT HE SWEARS TO GOD IF THERE ISN'T A WELL CONSTRUCTED BY THE END OF THE YEAR HE IS GOING TO GO POSTAL.

>>166302972
>2x3
Look at this fuckin' guy

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>>166268241

>>166285184
keep up the sexual jokes timbuk, this is fascinating

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>try to save game
>it crashes
>last save is 5 years ago

>>166312451
retard. Maybe use DFhack quicksave? Whats with symmetry autist? I really do not give a shit if its noy symetrical i do not suffer from autism. Also want more gobbos? to kill and totrue and murder? Duplicate their raw .

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>highest point on map
>flat plateau
>15z waterfall
>beautiful canyon
>arrow lake points the place
i love this embark

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>>166314604
Time to fortify the fuck out of it anon

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>>166314778
forgot pic

>>166314604
That looks comfy as fuck.

>>166268980
Came from Metalocalypse, which is a solid show even if you don't like the music. Why are you angry about memes?

>>166315118
That's pretty much how I see it.

I'm gonna build walls all around the plateau and a huge tower for everybody to see.

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looks like this thread needs a bump

>>166282401
Was flipping tabs and just glanced past before having to go back and make sure what I saw.

>>166285830
>>166286172
Oh god, it is terrifying.

>>166318770
Don't you mean dig out the surface layer to make natural walls with masterful engravings so you don't gotta look at... grass all day from the tower you raise on the plateau?

>>166321519
>rimworld has an entire company, full of capable, interested workers doing their best
>df has a fat, frog-looking guy in a basement

just something to take in consideration.

>>166324583
>rimworld has an entire company, full of capable, interested workers doing their best
If they're working so hard, why is the game world still flat? Also, where's the procedural history generation?

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>>166324583
>company
>full of capable, interested workers doing their best
Clearly you're not a software developer.

Update NEVER EVER

For real though how long do you all think it will take?

>>166325483
early mars

>>166325568
So how long until we get to mars

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>>166325412
Uh, I'm pretty sure windows is the one grimacing saying fuck you, linux says "hello, what do YOU want to do?" like this:
[yourname@yourcomputer ~]$ _

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Why do my military dwarves all get stuck on a single tile during combat?

>>166325692
Ask Elon. My guess is around 2021.

>>166325840
t. linux

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>>166325982
There is a weird behavior that I've treated in my headcanon as being an after battle ritual of rolling around in the blood of your foes.

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I've just lost 7 of my absolute best dwarves I had in my 200 population fort

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>>166323449
>Don't you mean dig out the surface layer to make natural walls with masterful engravings so you don't gotta look at... grass all day from the tower you raise on the plateau?
good lord

i know there's a lot of harsh discussions about sieges these days, but if my embark has no goblin neighbors, it means they will never attack me, right?

will i get attacks if i manage to get at war with elves and humans?

>>166329979
Yes, they will.
There's really not a lot of harsh discussion, it's just one guy having daily spergouts.

>>166331429
I mean the elves and humans. There's always a chance that goblins could settle or conquer a site near after you embark, but you shouldn't gamble on it.

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>>166329979
Yeah, I like making the simple change of giving elves/humans slavery:acceptable and dwarves slavery:unthinkable, pow! War all day long.

The world in this shot also had war with goblins across much of the map with another civ, and I think there had been war with elves brewing, didn't even do any of the fortress defense nonsense of adding 50 civs, just that one slavery ethic change.

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When do corpses/skeletons lying outside disappear?

>>166325840
>>166328236
http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2002.1.17.21116.9630.html

>>166332381
When you pour magma on them.

>>166332798
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Can I have a very quick rundown of the most important changes of the past say 6 months?

why are there no elv visitors to my fort

>>166334761
cuz ur gay

random embark symbol when

So after finding out how fast FPS death is in this version compared to the old. Im gonna quit DF. Untill toady fixes this retarded fps death issues. I do not want to play with only 20 dwarves. O well. DF was fun on old version ill probably go on .34 again. but still not gonna touch it often. Plenty of other games to play. Like Rimworld. Im buying it.

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Dogs are DOGSHIT at war.
Literally useless.
They don't even follow my army and if they do they never land a single bite.

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>>166310352

>>166314604
Better have a small keep by the river, that would look cozy as fuck.

>>166287498
This one is amazing.

>>166335915

they are your wood training axe until you find giant elephants.

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>>166335915

how high can goblins climb?
is it safe if i make them 2 or 3 levels high?
i don't feel like putting an overhanging floor, don't like how it looks.

>>166338543
i meant walls

>>166338543
>>166338662
There's not a limit. If they can climb one wall the can climb 100 as long as they keep passing their climb checks. If you don't want an overhang I recommend leaving a small gap that you can defend easily (or trap all to hell if you're that kind of fella). They won't climb if they have a walkable path.

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>>166338543
Put an overhanging fortification?

They can climb pretty high if motivated.

>>166338924
thanks man, i guess i'll just overhang floors then.

>>166338979
i thought fortifications could be climbed.

>>166342083
they'll squeeze themselves through fortifications if you're not careful

Where can I download the source code of the game?

>>166344231
not funny man, don't say things like that.

>>166344506
maybe when toady dies a premature death in his mid 40s due to his unhealthy and sedentary lifestyle.

>>166344506
You must hack the Toad.

>>166342083
They can be climbed ON, but nothing can climb across the bottom edge to reach the point that they could climb up on to the fortification, and then if you jump you can move through them, never seen an npc do that though.

Also working on a mod, here's a hint: Lamanam.

>>166344789
Does sedentary lifestyle reduce the life span?

>>166346052
by itself, not much

combined with bad eating habits, yeah

>>166346052
like three years

>>166346179
>bad eating habits
Like fastfood, eating at night?

>>166346487
and more, google it/ask a nutritionist if you care about it.

>>166346179
>>166346487
>>166346651
I have it on good authority that Toady subsists entirely on fire hot cheetohs, mountain dew, methamphetamine and any insect with the grave misfortune of skittering into his LoS.
Trust me. My dad works for Bay12.

>>166349397
I thought scamps had the bug and shoe monopoly

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>>166349683
Everything except the spiders.

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>>166258481

>>166268130
you can just fire the noble for someone else and it erases the mandate. same with if some cunt gets elected mayor you just change it back to the guy you want.

>>166269853
i-is that... l-lewd

>>166353338
Let's just say it ain't milk.

>>166351372
>it erases the mandate
The mayor is the only noble that makes mandates that can be replaced without an untimely death, and replacing the mayor doesn't make their mandates go away. They just don't appear on your nobles screen anymore.
You can test this easily yourself by waiting for your mayor to forbid an export, enabling "culling on mandates" in the move goods to depot screen, and then replacing your mayor. You'll see that whatever export was forbidden is still not visible to be moved to the depot. Or, you can replace the export-forbidding mayor, disable culling on mandates, and trade away a bunch of the former mayor's forbidden items and watch half your fort get hauled off to jail or beaten to death.

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>>166345981
Damn, the full effect will have to wait, I figured that it wouldn't work like I hoped but had to try anyways.

So basically I'm working on a stone age mod cause why the fuck not?

I've removed the metals and whatnot, replaced the necessary tools and weapons with stones, cut down a lot on the weapon types, no traps, no siege weapons, no crossbows, just leather and flint (added flint btw) and obsidian and blood, oh and elves still have their gay wooden arrows I'm thinking.

Still fiddling with it to make sure it all works right, and I added in SLIGHTLY less horrifying sabertooths plus wooly mammoths cause fuck it why not?

I wanted to have the dorfs in caves, figuring that maybe they would be lingering around somewhere, but nope, no luck yet so I'm just going with them using world-gen forts right now, thinking I should add weaponized native_silver/native_gold so their hammers aren't totally crap cause obsidian and flint suck for it.

Put flint in as a gemstone in sedimentary deposits, gonna have it where you can extract it from chalk (maybe just all flux, fuck it) too, and it's roughly similar to obsidian properties.

Had to give the wood armor tag to dorfs though, first time I tried and got loaded with a flint axe (yay) and a rock shield, I was scared so I dropped it and it melted into magma immediately, weee!

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>seeing your fps progressively go back to normal as hundreds of invaders die

>>166356732
You should make copper useable for weapons, perhaps only for dwarves. It has a low melting point and is moldable without forges. Also it makes sense that dwarves would have the first metalworking tech.

>>166356732
>thinking I should add weaponized native_silver/native_gold so their hammers aren't totally crap cause obsidian and flint suck for it.

Couldn't you just use marble or granite or some other heavy stone? Gold and silver hammers would sort of clash with the overall theme.

>>166360479
Maybe if I can't get it working better without it.

>>166360740
They aren't heavy enough.

>>166336990
will the gobbocuccs ever recover?

>>166268980
>>166317498
I'm fairly sure it's older than that, at least in some form. I remember there were a few guys in my highschool in the early 2000s who kept saying that things were metal in the same way that the meme works. (They'd have gotten in trouble if they'd said "fucking")

>>166270272
Only the people corpses go in the corpse stockpile. The animal corpses go in the refuse stockpile.

>>166270483
>>166270753
I hope he has enough fuel to make proper use of all that ash.

>>166274092
I didn't play DF at all from late 2010 until mid 2013. I don't recall forgetting anything significant in that time.

>>166274495
>>166274653
>search
Isn't that something DFHack allows? I never use DFHack, so I don't know. Anyway, yeah, I think it would really help to either add the trade depot search function to things like the stockpiles allow/disallow menu or just make it less disorganized. I can tell that there's some sort of organization in it, but it's so hard to figure out what it is that it takes seemingly forever to find things like kangaroo meat, or long yams when the list is organized by what RAW file they're in or something rather than being alphabetized or whatever.

>>166292443
This is a good post. I'd like to add that appropriately placed traffic designations may or may not help to discourage dining in an inappropriate location, and that locked doors definitely would help, you just need to remember not to forget about them.

>>166312451
>no saves for 5 years
But how? I can hardly imagine doing that.

>>166314604
How big is that embark?

>>166360479
>copper=stone age steel
I like it. Also, native copper was used by the Tlingit while they were an otherwise essentially non-metalworking society. I assume that's related to why Toady gives kobolds copper daggers.

>>166360832
>They aren't heavy enough.
It's the stone age. They'll just have to deal.

bambity bamp

diggy dug
i am a dwarf
give me mugs
elves are ugly
no better than thugs
and really smuggy
diggy dug

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>tfw i didn't have a migrant wave for 3 seasons
>tfw i actually need a bigger work force
I'm in year 6. There aren't going to be any more migrants, are there?

>>166367596
time to hire mercenaries and bards to do your dirty work.

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>>166368029
Say what?
I haven't played in a long while, so i'm unaware of all the new features added.

>Your fortress attracted no migrants this season

>>166368113
If you build a tavern and allow guests to drink thee, eventually some might ask to join your fortress.

Only in the latest versions though.

>>166368164
You might've just saved my game, anon.
Thank you.

>>166368319
At least I'll have done something worthwhile in this life then.

>>166336990
no timbuk, you are of the amazings

>>166336990
>pic
atleast we are the ones cucking this time

>>166368464
don't be like that anon
I luev you

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>>166362225
>But how? I can hardly imagine doing that.

Autosaves are for losers.

Has honestanon come back to us yet?

>>166369301
nah.

one of his pics were posted: >>166337682
, but it has MaxTM's naming pattern, so it's probably just a repost.

the whole discord affair scared him off.

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Begone

>>166369476
I know that specifically wasn't him, I've just been gone a few days. Feels really bad man. He had some of the best artwork. Hopefully he gets over being called a faggot and comes back to us.

>>166369476
Sadly that wasn't him, no.

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>>166370741
Indeed. Even though he was a massive fool I appreciated his artwork, and I'm sure some other aspects of his that were posted. After all, that's a strength of the anonymous image board.

>>166362225
>How big is that embark?
4x4

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>>166371554
Actually, the artwork was the only redeeming trait, but it was a pretty big one.

The artwork aside, every single thing he said during the discord shitstorm reeked of a condescendending saviour complex. Pic related.

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>tfw DF has 9 different species of gibbons alone

>>166373701
what's this discord thing i keep hearing about?
i hadn't come here since last summer.

>>166373701
Alright alright, I don't want to get into it.
>>166373953
This guy drew some cool art and posted it here, but later was a bit too over-zealous about proposing a /dfg/ discord.

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>>166373953
>new resident drawfag emerges
>has a really special and charming style, which comes close to how many players imagine the game world (pic related, it's by him)
>get named "honestanon" because he draws the game world with brutal honesty
>becomes really popular
>fast forward a few weeks
>suddenly suggests opening a discord channel when uploading one of his new pics
>offer to be the admin of the channel
>everyone says no
>he turns extremely defensive of his idea
>uses the current year meme to argue for having a discord channel
>as the mood gets increasingly worse in the thread, he eventually gives up and leaves
>posts a few new pics the next day
We haven't seen him here since then.

>>166374390
that sucks, those drawing are really great.
fuck discord though

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>>166374556
I agree 100%.

>>166374556
I'm sure people would be happy to forget about the discord fiasco (typed discworld twice, been finishing the series) should he ever feel like arting it up more.

>>166375046
Mos def

>>166375350
Talib Kweli even!

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>>166376256
Indeed! I'm not up on current events.

>>166374390
I named him honestanon guys...
I feel empty without him

>>166374713
I dont remember this one

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>>166377393

>>166378173
>there must be more to life than this

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‡¶‡¶‡¶‡

i'd shoot the shit with honestanon if honestanon wants

>>166379273
this is beautiful

>>166378173
goddamn yaks always end up dead in my meeting hall too

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>>166379987
protip: they go to the meeting hall because you haven't assigned them to a proper pasture. since there is no grass for them to eat down there, they starve to death.

git gud.

>>166380161
but why the meeting hall?
why not anywhere else?
do the yaks know i designated this underground area of the fort as a place to gather?
how?
why not stay on the grass outside?
what the fuck is their endgame?
fucking yaks man.

>>166380428
like the citizens, the pets also gather in the meeting areas. this is actually useful, since it means that you can deactivate their pastures during sieges, and they'll seek refuge in your fort.

if you want them to stay above ground, you have to make a pasture and then assign each grazing animal to it.

>>166380428
>do the yaks know i designated this underground area of the fort as a place to gather?
Yes.
>how?
The same way fresh off the wagon migrants do. The same way goblin invaders do. The same way that Urist McFurnaceOperator knows that there's novice miner 500 tiles away in the depths of the mine that just got thirsty and needs a bucket of water fetched for him, gold nuggets be damned.
Every creature in DF has the psychic ability to know exactly where the thing they want to reach is, at all times and no matter how far away it is or how much it moves during the course of their amazing journey. Except for military dwarves with a kill order, who have to check the spot where the thing want dead was when you issued the kill order before their telepathic connection kicks in.

>>166380428
because they want to be around your dwarves

And yaks are notorious party animals

>>166380428
make a wind instruments out of their bones

stockpile loads of -yakety sax-

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>>166381435

>>166380581
>>166380948
thanks, didn't know it also applied to animals and invaders.

you kind of sound like a bunch of yak apologists though.

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>>166383471
>roams the high peaks like he don't give a fuck
>majestic beard stretches chin to withers
>sharp horns for goring your enemies
>size 700k when will minotaurlets learn
>their fermented milk makes a delicious intoxicating beverage
>walks into a bar slaps your girlfriends ass

Sounds like you need to get with the program, bruv.

Im making a mod and an adventure map for /dfg/

It's gonna have lewds, drugs, inteligently designed puzzles, ankward creatures (including you)
All with custom life, made by custom sentients, and if Im dedicated enough, it will probably have a plot, although they will probably be a set of puzzles in the same world with no links between them

I've been thinking about this OC for some time, and I think Im ready to create it, with the modding skills I have obtained

>Milking friends for alcoholic drinks
>Creatures that shouldnt exist
>DF memes made alive

Its pretty ambitious, but I actually need you to show interest in it, and give certain ideas, if you want it to happen
So, depending on the feedback on this thread this will be done, or not
If people like the idea, I'll set a tripcode and numerous polls so you can decide atleast slightly what you want in this mod

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>>166384682
>mfw yak apologists are shitting up MY THREAD

Lmao when will you yaklets learn xDD

Yeah, and any question will be answered, thanks in advance

>>166385873
>it will probably have a plot, although they will probably be a set of puzzles in the same world with no links between them
How are you planning to accomplish this?

I mean, the easiest way to make something that resembles a plot with progression is probably to make a lot of entities and give them different triggers to have you encounter them at different times. That doesn't sound like what you're after, though.

>>166385873
Will there be shit?

>>166386330
this

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>>166385960
>>166384682
these stupid animals need to learn about basic hair grooming and maybe do some lifting too.

look at this badass here.

>>166385960
>muskox size 285k
>yak size 700k

Why don't they just jump down a well teebeeaitch.

>>166386807
All genetic. They literally do not even lift Bro.
They get that way naturally, from walking around and eating grass and sometimes running when they have to.

Some cattle breeds with similar traits are even basically "Too Jacked" in a steroidal looking way even more because they eat good and the trait is probably a little overzealously bred into some animals.

Like, 100 percent muscle, or close to it. They look ridiculously.

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>>166386807
>unironically posting the nigger of the bovidae

WHERE WILL YOU BE ON THE DAY OF THE YOKE

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Can something permamently affect dwarf's personality in fortress mode?

>>166386275
I toyed around with the idea that the end of a 'chapter' or level means that something happens
and the next chapter plays on it

Example
You start as a plebeian with a samsung galaxy seven, and your father is a chicken farmer
The chickens are a constant in the game, they are everywhere, and you can use them as a source for food
In the endgame of that chapter, there are two levers
A statue next to the next lever pictures a door opening(this opens the exit) and 6 thousand chickens burning
the other statue next to the othe lever pictures a grate and chickens smiling

After studying the message, you are left with a choice, escape now the puzzle and letting all of the chickens die
or going deeper in the dungeon and letting the chickens live

If you choosed the first option, all the cute chickens in the world die, and the laberinth will have chicken corpses everywhere, with statues of weeping chickens asking you ''why?''

This is a very dumb example, but thats something
The idea would be something bigger, like suggesting to the player that he and other people are trapped and that escaping the puzzle is not the main objective, but freeing them, and each chapter trying to free a different species
Anything goes for now

>>166386330
>>166386520
Why not, what I had in mind was far nasty than that
We'll arrange polls

>>166388108
Enough death and suffering can make them mostly apathetic and unable to care about anything.

Its great when it happens, because an apathetic dwarf is a dwarf not causing a tantrum spiral.

>>166388108
Hey, I actually saw that anime, and it's fucking shit.

>>166388108
vanilla? no
with mods, yeah

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>>166387910
Asians aren't a part of the bovine family, friend. Please post an actual cloven-hooved beast.

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>First migrant wave
>They're all useful and actually fill out missing jobs
>Great Armor Smith, Weapon Smith & Metal Crafter all in one
>Game crashes
Please tell me migrant waves are not randomized.
I don't want to deal with two Lye Makers, a Glazer and 6 Children this time. Just this once.

>>166389314
they are not :^)

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>>166389314
>he has never experienced quitting and restarting the game until he's rolled a good migrant wave

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>>166389420
>>166390106
>6 Children, some shit farmers, two wannabe fishery workers and a clothier which i already have
Thank you, Toady.

Is there a way to make specific dwarf complete a task?

>>166390973
I think you can assign a specific dwarf to a workshop from the workshop out.
Or, you know, just deactivate the labour on every other dwarf, so there's only the one you want to do the job left.

>>166390973
haha maybe ;p

tfw what makes my dwarves fall in combat is exhaustion rather than the strength of enemies

>>166390896
Who the fuck cares which labours they have when they arrive?

Just give them the labours you need and they'll get good at them in no time.

>>166388331
I loved stuff like the writefags and The tourney in the past, and people seemed to like them too. Some of us still dream about minotaurs bathing in lava as of now
Stuff like that happened because someone had an idea and people contributed and offered ideas

I need to know if people want this, because being realist, Im not gonna spend time and effort on shit everybody'll ignore

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>immigrants don't stop coming

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>>166393878
There's only one solution.

>>166393878
Your fortress isn't in a post-industrial situation, you can very well use more free workforce. What's the matter? Why don't you expand? Dig deeper? Amass wealth?
>b-but muh comfy mini-cavern
You're not a kobold, are you?

Some of my dwarves rest in wrong coffins.
Like, Urist's body is in the same coffin as Deduk.
How to fix this?
I don't want to manually remove every single coffin and then rebuild it.

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>>166394313

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>>166394434
Fucking 21st century indoctrination

can wood barrels and chests burn? and if so what happens to the items inside?

>>166392380
Best to just start it and don't stop until it's finished. Either people catch on or you figure it out and do better and then people catch on. Don't worry so much about getting it right or what people think it should be.

>human caravan visits and immediately leaves
Epic

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>>166398906
>dwarven caravan doesn't visit
Epic

>>166399014
>goblin caravan visits
Epic

Has any of you figured out a way to get rid of named weapons?

How is adventure mode in this game? I've played fortress mode a couple years back, didn't get very far, but my friend told me adventure mode was pretty fun

>>166400129
You can punch someone's finger and destroy his arm

It's fun, I guess

Time to separate men from boys : how wide do you make your corridors?

>>166400650
Two
w
o

>>166400650
I don't have any corridors, just a cluster of wooden houses and workshops above ground, with a brick road connecting them all :3

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>>166400854

Is it possible to make a syndrome that turns dwarfs into lusty cowgirls?

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>>166401708
What are you doing

>>166401708
yeah

>>166398495
sounds about right, I'll keep posting my new stuff until the whole thing is finished
I already got the concepts for the two principal races, humans(normies) and anons
there's probably gonna be a ton of humor in that ''anons are not considered humans'' vein, so great for anyone who likes that, ofcourse

The actual scope also lets people craft drugs, like jenkem or blunts, probably gonna make a race dependant on home-grown memes, or something like that

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>>166400129
its pretty hilarious overall

>>166400378
bever forgetti
>>166287498

>>166400650
bout as long as my dick

I dont have corridors

>>166400650
3

>>166403241
Implying... you are... a eunuch?

>>166403594
or... dare i say it... a girl?

>>166403594
it ain't easy to live on sweden, you know?

>>166377393
I did too, weird.

>>166406025
fug me
I named frown-anon, I was wrong

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Has any of you ever influenced Legends mode considerably as an adventurer?

>>166407904
yeah, I became a vampire king
with the top notch technology developed by an anon in the last thread I now can let years pass, and see what does he does

>>166408219
I want to play adventure mode for a bit but I'm afraid it will fuck up my fortress.

>>166408286
honestly, it will
Its quite buggy and you cant be 100% sure something won't happen

>>166408450
Can I protect it from sieges as an adventurer? That's the only thing that's dangerous while leaving your fortress under AI?

>>166407904
Might be really good luck but Iv slayed 12ish titans as an adventurer and every town iv been to had a statue of my lizardman hero slaying a titan. Shit was pretty awesome. Unfortunately a goblin raiding party killed my hero as he tried protecting a human village.

>>166408815
Lizard bully not so tough since being GOBBO'D

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>>166409283
DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT MY HERO GETTING THE BGC, FUCK YOU!

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>>166408815
>every town iv been to had a statue of my lizardman hero
Statues in worldgen sites never depict historical events, only unnamed random creatures.

>as he tried protecting a human village
This also sounds fishy, unless you were roleplaying.

Please make up better bullshit stories next time.

>>166408219
>with the top notch technology developed by an anon in the last thread I now can let years pass, and see what does he does
Wait, what?

Can you share this groundbreaking technology with me?

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>>166407765
Yeah, that one stuck better than indianon jones or comfyanon.

>>166407904
A little bit? (See also: >>166261191)

>>166408219
To reiterate, I explained how to look up some info on a weird art depiction with gm-editor and dude went on to poke around and noticed something which had apparently been missed or just kinda ignored by everyone else.

Start updating world, before the two weeks is up run this command:
gui/gm-editor df.global.gview.view.child

If the world updates fast enough feel free to edit the year, otherwise you want the year_tick value. Setting it to 400000 drops you right near the end of Obsidian.

>>166410214
Hmmm, I've seen engravings of my character at random temples and shit, but hadn't though about the statue thing.

>>166403594
Will Toady add eunuchs one day?

>>166410214
>what are mods and edits
Also by protecting a human village i mean i was attacking the goblin tower next to it, not a raid.

>>166408536
Fuck no, that's easily the least dangerous thing that can happen
Im talking about prisioners escaping their quarters, visitors marked as hostile, and stuff like that

>>166410736
My dorf fort is the last of its civilization and pretty xenophobe so no taverns or prisoners. The population is just dwarves and animals.

>>166410426
>Hmmm, I've seen engravings of my character at random temples and shit, but hadn't though about the statue thing.
Engravings, yes. Those can be of anything: animals, plants, random shapes, historical events related to the site, et cetera.

Statues in worldgen sites only seem to depict random creatures. At first I assumed that the creatures must at least exist in the biome, but it soon became clear that it could be any creature, even randomised ones like bogeys and FBs.

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>>166410426
let me crop the stuff I had lying around so you can save it, gib sum minutes
>>166410472
he would need to add vagoos and penos first
You can already geld males in combat
A little/quick modding can make females geldable too

>>166410654
The way statues appear in worldgen sites is not moddable. In towns, they only appear in temples and dungeons, and like I said above, they always depict random creatures.

Your goblin story is also eginning to sound more suspicious. Why would you refer to the goblins as a "raiding party" if you were the one doing the raiding?

>>166410856
risk it then
Its not horribly buggy, is just that the game doesnt have certain things in consideration, like prisioners escaping from closed cells
Doesnt always happen tho

On a related note to the gm-editor magic
Can I somehow make the time needed to retake an adventurer be 1 day instead of two weeks?

How long does it take for a skeleton to vanish from refuse pile?