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To update: Never pick anything other than Morghur as Beastmen.
Necromancer heroes are top pick right now while raise dead is still broken as fuck.
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Waiting for Bretonnia
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Penultimate thread(we're dead for good if Bretonnia is a late Feb release):
>>166391150
New thread before bump limit because image limit is reached and screenshot posting is necessary to give shitposters imaginary ammunition.
No Boii or Stunties allowed in this thread.
1st for united /twg/
>>166521369
Technology and player tactics are more than enough to make up for it I feel.
now i'm in the mood for some Dwarf Fortress, good job CA
If our elector is to become Holy Roman Emperor ...
>>166522019
1212 is going to have to be released before that can come to pass.
Anyone else in the TW:Arena Alpha and hyped for this weekend?
Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
Chaos fucking shits beware, Sigmarines are coming.
>>166522352
Shoo shoo
>>166522352
nice legosetkid
Xth for CRUSADES
>>166521692
Does this come from experience or is this conjecture? Not being an asshole.
The early empire technology you can research are +2 rank, +8 leadership, and +speed. None of those are going to make up for the fact that your troops are outclassed by the AI's. My logic here is that your general constitutes 1 slot out of 20 in your army while the rest of your slots are going to be infantry, early game most of those are going to be state troops. Now you might buff your lord to be able to take out the enemies lord but that doesn't change the fact that in every other respect your army is inferior to the AIs. And if the odds are against you which they always will be on Legendary having a strong front line counts for far more than a strong Lord unit
>>166522769
Some poor experience, mostly conjecture.
My only VH (battle)difficulty game was as VC. harder battle difficulty hurt there but was not difficult to overcome, just need the same mindset of fighting slightly superior troops.
Rock the boat!
>>166523191
Forge World was a mistake.
Only trust a wood elf after you've properly disarmed them.
>today wasn't the day
>this week won't be the week
>>166523714
February 28 is the propable release date for the Bretonnia update
>>166523928
but i'm bored NOW
>>166523714
When is the usual main TW stream?
It's britbong wednesday right?
It's 2pm strayan wednesday at the moment so in like fourteen hours or so?
>>166523420
You have no style, you have no taste.
Is RTW2 fixed now? Played it on release and dropped it in disgust. Is it playable now?
>>166524592
I forgot they did things that weren't large models.
>>166522936
I'm posting at an ungodly hour but I thought it would be rude to leave you without a reply so here you go.
>>166525332
Ok.
>>166524948
what about did you not like at launch
its still relatively the same game just less buggy and with some freelc
>>166525607
Fast flight, cannonball-san.
>>166525607
>>166525759
>>166525691
Ready to see Vlad fly?
>>166525932
Definitely the most satisfying moment I've had from this game. Still lost the battle due to reinforcements being on the opposite side of the map, but killed a fuckload of undead.
>>166526104
Pig shit-covered stick hut in the backwoods of "civilized" Empire or comfy ork hut on the prairie amongst the "savage" orcs.
HMMM.
>>166525620
Absence of Family Politics, buggy, slow and unoptimized, unbalanced mess
>>166526413
franz my son you are tired now and must choose:
pig shit covered hut in the backwoods
or
comfy ork hut
So why do none of the factions released so far have their full unit roster?
>>166528154
And why the fuck aren't their officers of units, flag bearers, and musicians when even fucking vampire units have them?
When are we getting Knights of Gorkamorka (Dwarf Skirmisher Cavalry)?
>>166528791
And also, why don't a lot of units have unique abilities and traits like terrorghiests having a chance to very violently explode killing everyone around them?
>>166528154
>>166528791
>>166529047
most of it follows balancing, and warhammer being baby steps away from the standard Total War game.
Some things like flag bearers or musicians just may not have been all that cared for in the planning phase so they never got dev time.
>>166529198
I wish it wasn't baby steps though. It really doesn't do the setting justice. There's all sorts of cool shit and we don't get to see any of it.
>>166529198
>>166529306
Warhams was a proof of concept. Why on earth devote time to musicians if the battle/campaign system was fucked up and it R2'd itself?
I'm sure it'll get there and I have had fun playing it and I want a lot more added to but the first installment wasn't going to be crazy. I want equipment, musicians, officers, bigger deeper sieges, settlements, etc. but they had to get the foundation down in the first place before worrying about musicians.
If army painters, unit equipment interfaces, and other shit ain't around by the end of it that would be a detriment.
>>166523928
thought companies put that up as a place holder since they know it's coming out that month but they don't know the day.
>>166529306
It sucks. I'm starting to wish they had just taken a extra year of dev time to try and smooth things out.
>>166529639
That's why its in three parts.
>>166529639
Money anon. Dev time costs money and they needed a release since Attila didn't sell very well and they needed a big and good release to distance itself from R2 release. With the TWW sales and DLC sales Sega is willing to let CA run wild with it since it proved it can sell. Top 12 well at that.
You guys forget that if TWW flopped CA would be hung by their guts right now.
>>166529626
well any other release date we get will be better, unless it gets pushed back again
>>166529870
that's actually pretty impressive for a game that didn't get all the hype bullshit Fallout 4 got
>>166529870
>f2p
>top seller
oh valve
>>166529605
Yeah it's bleedingly obvious that Warhammer was a very cautiously scoped out project. Meant we got a really good quality release with nary a bug, but also meant that a lot of the nuances and flavour of Warhammer The Universe didn't make it in.
I think they learned a lot of lessons about project management from the Rome 2 disaster. Most game studios don't survive that kind of shit.
>>166529870
>No Man's Sky is a platinum seller
How many retards actually bought that game on Steam?
>>166530232
I'm still fucking mad about Fallout 4.
>>166530354
thank god im not the only one bugged by that
>>166530594
http://steamspy.com/app/275850
>>166530614
Did you watch the Joseph Anderson videos on Fallout 4? They were interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A34poZ6paGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVyjRhSX92E
>>166530614
here's hoping they learn and don't stumble on elder scrolls 6
and getting off warhammer topic here i apologize but was anyone else completely urked by the synth shit? that irritated me more than any other bumble in this game, how could a a college living in a hole in the ground for 200 years have an advanced society of robots and artificial intelligence when the microchip was never invented and their tech was basically from the 50's? i can suspend my disbelief for lasers, sure but the rest of that was just.... horseshit. it was such a sci-fi grab that jumped the shark for me. i know they wouldn't dare ruin their elders scrolls bread and butter after skyrim's success but i'm still worried
>>166530895
No. But I guess I can-
>1:23:40
>2:32:30
...Maybe later. I've got a paper about the Klamath that I'm dragging myself through at the moment. Have a summary?
>>166531073
It's a sort of post-mortem academic analysis trying to figure out what Bethsoft were actually trying to achieve with Fallout 4. He also rips into the silly story and the total lack of player agency. It's dry watching but I feel it was a worthwhile watch, something to do on a rainy afternoon with a cuppa tea and bickies.
>>166531034
The synths were a total jump the shark moment for the setting. To keep my rant short, it's a fucking pandora's box that they've opened up that is damaging to the setting. Hypertech replicants straight out of Blade Runner that are more than rare, they're practically pervasive seeing how many freaking characters in that game are seekrit robots. That and the power armor within the first five seconds, the absolutely butchering they gave dialogue, the heavy handed level scaling, the fucking minuteman micro management-
But, there are bits in that game that are good. Like, when you go delving through the ruins of what seems to be a ration distribution point and uncover the wait I'm doing exactly what I didn't mean to do in a total war thread agh agh.
>>166531183
I'll definitely watch it. I'd like an analysis of the mess of Fallout 4. It may be just stockholm syndrome talking, but underneath the god awful mess there were a few bits of something close to interesting.
IN THE MEANTIME, how about somebody drop some roll charts or something.
>>166530632
I'm not really bugged about it. I've accepted modern valve.
Just slightly amused by valve's transparency.
>>166530614
I wasn't really angry at all. You could see it coming a mile away.
Fallout 3 came out and was very retarded but still an okay game. Then New Vegas arrived and demonstrated just how incompetent Bethesda is.
As soon as they announced the game at E3 and teased player voice I knew it was going to be absolute garbage.
I wasn't sure of the scope of the garbage, but I knew it.
>>166530895
To the point that I don't much see the point of videos like this. Every one of Fallout 4's slipups is visible from the surface. No analysis is really necessary.
>>166531034
Thread is pretty dead anyway. Get in the steam chat/s if you want to continue discussion but feel bad about posting it here. I'll idle there, I won't post on this topic more than once.
Todd Howard did an interview where he seemed fairly aware of Fallout 4's reception and acknowledged that the voiced player character was an experiment and that it pretty much failed.
Which is at least a single bone we can grab at while hoping for a decent TES6.
I fixate on the voiced player character both as the first and final warning sign as the most dangerous precedent.
I think Skyrim is absolute garbage as well, and can only really be redeemed by mods that allow you to roleplay and experience the ok world on your own terms.
The voiced PC
a) results in a shit game, and thus less of a modding scene
b) basically eradicated any conceivable hope for mods that allow you to roleplay. As the only way they could get away with that is rewriting like 80% of the player's dialogue and 40% of everyone else's.
>>166530485
>Most game studios don't survive that kind of shit.
What's more mind-boggling is that the studio didn't even lose people they actually got more people because of Alien Isolation and Halo Wars 2.
I'm still confused how the fuck they got more workers after R2.
>>166531835
Rome 2 still sold quite well despite an abysmal launch.
so is warhammer still uncrackable? dont feel like paying hundred bucks of my currency just for half the game
>>166531835
They got a shit load of pre-orders for Rome 2 based off of their old reputation that gave them enough inertia to coast along and make Emperor Edition which fixed the most glaring issues for Rome 2.
...Actually, come to think of it, isn't Total Warhammer going to do a similar re-release kind of thing?
Got to love the fucking AI in this game
>Turn 6
>End turn RIGHT OUTSIDE Eilhart about to kill the secessionists, whatever I'll do it next turn
>Fucking rebels "united" Middenland against me RIGHT BEFORE I fucking killed them
>Whatever, I'll burn down a few settlements and they'll ask for peace
>They then unite fucking Nordland against me
>You've got to be shitting m-
>They then unite Orion against me
WHAT. THE. FUCK. I've never seen the AI do this this much in a campaign. Honestly I don't even think I can win anymore, it is only turn 15 and Orion is already coming towards Helmgrat with a couple doomstacks. Thankfully he hasn't confederated with every elf faction yet, but seriously man this is bullshit.
they should get obsidian to do the next total war game
>>166531994
Yeah; Old World edition. Assuming that will be the de facto "final" stage of the product, then some patches to fix whatever they break in OW edition, maybe one more minor DLC, then sequel work.
>>166532168
maybe they'll add musicians in OW edition
or make the map bigger
This item is some top tier bullshit. The aoe of it is fucking huge, easily enough to cover an entire enemy front line where the fuck has this been in all my other games.
They should add a spell to Karl Franz that lets him summon a unit of Todbringer clones called "The Elector Counts."
>>166532262
God damn I just want a fucking map editor and being able to add new models. That's all I need, at least a campaign and battle map editor along with basic pathing tools for the AI. I really don't get why they won't, yeah people will release stuff for free but its extremely unlikely it will be better than anything CA shits out aside from their garbage RoR.
>>166532168
>>166531994
The difference is that Warhammer was well received, as people have said, so OWE will be even more profitable for them
>>166531641
>That pic
lel, Do you have more pics like that?
>>166529870
True, I just hope they use the first part as a testing ground and hopefully all the money thats come in will help with parts 2/3.
I just want this game to be as good as it should be. I love it as it is but there's so much more they could be doing you know?
>>166530895
Ok these seem pretty interesting, going to give them a watch.
>>166532502
Did you think I had forgotten, Kharl?
>>166533776
I wish I had more pictures like that. No, I just found it in TWG one day with no idea where it came from or how it was made.
>Napoleon's romp around Europe still going strong
Oh boy.
I've taken Normandy and Bretagne and currently have an invasion force on course for Gibraltar, but I'm not sure I will be able to make it up to France in time. Time to get a little more pushy.
>>166535987
Remember to exterminate the swiss.
>having fun on a Russian max difficulty Empire dathmod campaign
>Ottoman Empire decides it doesnt want to play any more and create a million single unit stacks to crash the game
fucking Turkroaches
>>166534430
THE SKELEGATES, KHARL
>>166536556
Warhammer Total War is fun, but it really makes me wish for some more political depth and a bigger map. I'd like it if there was a bit more to uniting the empire than "Bumrush them immediately, or wait for Chaos to invade and then slowly confederate them painfully as your populace get pissed off that you're uniting the empire." I wish there was a combination of Warhammer's setting and Crusader Kings 2.
>>166536687
>Implying any brettonian is ugly
They literally get every feast day off to work on their beauty regimens.
>>166537216
oh anon have I got some good news for you
>>166537719
Well fuck I should have just known somebody would mod that shit. Dang, custom portraits too. Geheimnisnacht eh? Is it an unstable buggy mess that needs me to roll back updates to three expansions before, or is it actually current and stable?
Skeledingdong
>>166537869
Pretty current and relatively stable
Some might say it's a bit bloated though
>>166537869
I've played it extensively. It's actually really well done, and the legitimate only catch is that it runs a bit slow because it covers the ENTIRE Warhammer world. Bretonnia, Dwarfs, The Empire, Lizardmen, Elves, even barbar tribes in the Chaos Wastes.
The current version was the first stable release of the mod (1.0) and is compatible with the current version of CK2. I'm currently playing a Bretonnia campaign right now.
>>166537216
>I wish there was a combination of Warhammer's setting and Crusader Kings 2.
That would only work for feudalistic-type settings, though.
Any other setting or era & the whole 'family' deal is off.
>>166537719
And Warhammer is definitely NOT a 'family' setting.
Unless marrying your daughter off to Orcs is your magical realm?in which case: take your fapping someplace else, furry
>>166538163
It doesn't have to deal with families and dynasties, though. I'd argue the main feature of CK2 isn't dynasties or politics (they are major focal points though) but the ability to roleplay characters. That's where the Warhammer potential comes in.And yes there's a feature that lets you do interracial marriage and stuff. It's optional though and I don't use it
They should reduce the number of units in a grail knight squad. They're the very cream of the crop, they shouldn't come in a group of 30 dudes. Should be maybe 6-8 max, and adjust their stats accordingly to make them still powerful/dangerous.
>>166538256
>It's optional though and I don't use it
you disgust me
>>166538596
Should do the same with Blood Knights tbqh
>>166538596
All units numbers are inflated. It's fine.
The Blood Dragons comment is correct as well. Can't be perfect.
>>166538896
Conveniently ignore the size of demigryph units. Or any units of smaller size, really.
>>166538147
>>166538146
Well I'm sold. Lizard time.Or maybe Araby since there's no way in hell they'll show up as a playable faction in Total War and I've always had a soft spot for Arabian Nights kind of fantasy.
>>166538256
IMHO, the entire point (raison d' etre, so to speak) of CK2 is roleplaying as a head of dynasty.
>>166538682
Case in point right here.>>>/b/
>>166539117
Yeah those unit sizes are more on point, only inflated a bit.
But we're not counting off a standardized point system here. It's not Grail knights and Empire knights costing the same, It's Grail knights costing almost double.
Numbers need also be adjusted for unit mass. There is a significant difference between 'ordinary' cavalry and monstrous cavalry in the way that they interact with the enemy.
>>166539306
It's not like dynasty mechanics don't fit Warhammer though. Dwarf clans, Imperial families, Bretonnian nobles, Elf dynasties... it all works.
re-downloading Rome 2. What are the best mods?
>>166538596
pls no
Warhammer battles already feel small on ultra
>tfw no paid DLC coming with Bretonnia
>>166540080
I had some of my best tw campaigns using DEI, but it's not a mod for everyone
>>166541163
What's so good about it?
>>166541183
I don't remember much and it's probably changed a lot by now, but it did make the game 100% better than vanilla without a doubt.
If you don't mind slower paced combat anyway. Larger battles can go on forever if you don't break their morale/flank, which did make seiges a bit tedious.
The redone mechanics and research etc are all great, check it out. Best overhaul mod I've played since med2 mods.
>>166541163
Any good mods for attila?
>>166541713
waiting for the medieval and LOTR overhaul mods still. I'd just check whatevers popular on the steam workshop that isn't radius
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Is there any point in using retreat on the campaign map? The enemy is always able to pursue and rekk my shit.
>>166538146
>>166537719
>>166542149
if they moved a long distance to get to you, yea, then they wont be able to reach you after retreating
>>166532502
>map editor and being able to add new models
*autistic shrieking*
>>166542174
There are places other than the workshop for mods m8. It's called Geheimnisnacht on the paradox forums.
>>166541713
Ancient Empires is great. It was released late last year.
>>166542174
It's on the Paradox forums, in the CK2 mod section.
>>166542305
a-at least they say they'll add a battle map editor...
>>166542305
I don't mind if we can only use gw parts, But only if we get all the models.
>you realize that once ogre kingdoms comes out, man eaters will help to supply accessories that will allow for a multitude of different factions.
Warhammer is a slow burn but its going to be its best at the end.
>pssh nothing personal gor
I miss the 19 COMITATENSES armies, pls come back
>>166542305
Just let me edit the campaign map you double druchii.
>>166543094
That's got nothing to do with GW. It's just far too costly to make for something that maybe 1 mod will end up using and that will bring in no new customers. See: Shogun 2.
fight against a stack of unarmoured sav orcs and my cannon still kills twice as much as my hellstorm, while using a mod that supposedly buffs them.
why are these things so useless, yet so cool.
>>166543172
Well maybe if it wasn't released so god damn late.
>>166543017
On the plus side if you have like 4 units of cav in your army that's going to be a pretty easy fight all things considered.
>>166543331
the nearest army had 0 cav. it's weird, for some reason as Himyar your first general starts as cav but any recruited after him is a t2 very heavy axe infantry. would much rather have those general types and armoured camel warriors than the shitty desert chieftain, which is what the axemen "upgrade" into with technology.
>>166543017
did they finally fix the auto battle?
Anyone else using the Steel Faith Overhaul mod for TW:W?
I'm enjoying it even though it's not as close to DEI as I'd like but it is still something.
>>166543512
>no cav as the supreme camel fuckers
But why?
>>166542758
God I would kill for that desu. That's all I want. People will be able to make river and bridge maps with that right???
>>166543623
I wanted an army specialised in taking towns and I'm not too fond of cavalry in town battles. Plus, I didn't have the cavalry building available at the time due to focusing on infantry. The town they captured I ended up building a cavalry corral, though. I left 4 slots open in the army for cavalry and/or archers but I've been stealing artillery from ERE.
>>166543707
Fair enough I guess, himyar infantry is pretty disgusting at street fighting though so it's no great loss having cav even in a siege army.
Their entire infantry roster being armor piercing tanks is pretty disgusting desu.It's why they're my favorite faction
>>166542305
Why do GW care if they nuked the series anyway?
>tree reich is only strength ranking 4 after steamrolling the empire
I am suddenly scared of what is waiting in the north
>>166543786
I notice you had the word "disgusting" on your mind as you were writing your post
I've made a couple inferences from that fact
Just wanted you to know
i wanna play the TW:W dlcs but too lazy to set up creamapi :(
G O B L I N S
>>166543912
>projecting
It's a good description of infantry units that can 4vs1 and win anon.
>Harad in charge of
In charge of nothing, apparently
>>166544536
You are heavily exaggerating
>>166544658
>>166544710
>exaggerating
You caught me, their best infantry can only 3vs1 They can't do it to literally everything but they can do it to pretty much any unit of spearmen in the game while sustaining minimal losses. Yes it's what they're designed to kill sure but they do it with fucking terrifying efficiency and in one 3 stack vs 1 stack battle I have had before now they racked up kill counts on par with the fucking camels while losing less than 20 men
>>166545045
They're at peace now
I'm going to start an Azhag very hard grand campaign
SOMEBODY STOP ME
I want to be dominated by a best elf!
End times could use an update
Eb 2 could use an update
AE could use a campaign release
1212 could use a campaign release
Any sales for Fall of the Samurai now or soon?
I'm starting to get tired of vanilla S2
the ai disembarked its naval units behind a barricade
Hey, Mousillonbro, are you here? I need some advice.
>>166547227
I'd also like to know if Darthmod is any good, I've played several TW games but I've never modded any.
I've got a good feeling that today will be the day.
>>166548083
It will never EVER be the day.
We may have gone too far in a few places
>>166548429
>all this inconsequential shit and Parthia still has less than ten units
Damn right I mad.
>>166548429
Who's your favorite legionary unit, /twg/? Mine is the Augustan one with a blue shield with white butterfly wings painted on it.
>>166548596
The red one with the gold on it.
>>166548429
>rome gets eighteen thousand autistic unit choices
>more interesting factions get five AT MOST
Total War was a mistake.
>>166548662
>red one with the gold on it
>not the black one with gold on it
pleb discovered
>>166548429
Is this the true manifestation of autism Anon?
>>166548429
Oh boy
>>166548429
>legionary skirmishers
>auxiliary cataphracts
It's like I'm actually playing Radious!
>>166548429
how far are they on the scale?
that must be very advanced autism
>>166548429
>It's a Kislev burns down half the Empire episode
Chaos invasion at turn 32? What's the big idea archy?
>>166550289
thats the first wave, its weak marauders and shit
Holy fuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Candia
>>166551435
damn
>>166551435
>Data obtained from the Archives of the Venetian State, relating to an operation organized by the Venetian Intelligence Services, describes a plan aimed at lifting the siege by infecting the Ottoman soldiers with plague; this was to be done by attacking them with a liquid made from the spleens and buboes of plague victims.
>>166548547
Parthia has 12 unique units plus whatever AOR units it will acquire through conquest.
>>166548694
>five AT MOST
The smallest factions in AE, Mauri and Garamantia, desert people with almost no recorded history, get 7 units and all are historically accurate and not made up. The other small factions at least have over 10.
>>166548865
>>legionary skirmishers
>>auxiliary cataphracts
>It's like I'm actually playing Radious!
Antisigani are historically sourced, they are legionaries who adopt lighter equipment in order to fill the role of skirmishers, as well as auxiliary cataphracts which the Romans made use of.
>>166548429
Most of these units come from the existing Legions of Rome mod but have been visually tweaked to be more historical and realistic.
>>166548429
I FUCKING HATE WHEN WE GET UNIT VARIETY AND OPTIONS BECAUSE IT CLUTTERS UP THE CUSTOM BATTLE SCREEN WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE HOW WOULD I OTHERWISE SHITPOST ABOUT THIS MOD
>>166552310
>A billion of the exact same unit with minute stat variations
>"""Options"""
So this is the power of autism.
>>166526104
Kek, that's pretty good.
>>166552443
They're AOR reskins you retard
It just means that if you recruit a legionnaire in britain, he will look like a legionnaire from britain, or if you recruit a legionnaire from africa, he will be a nigger
Fire in warhammer when?
>>166552630
It looks neat, but not worth the CPU killing to be honest ;_;
why would you pay money for that? is he starting BLACKED 1600 years early?
Onnigger or onnijjer?
>>166553465
On-a-ger, per the Latin.
anybody who wants to play a warhammer campaign? head to head.
>>166552630
What's the point of fire damage now?? Is it like TT 8E where it kills trolls quicker.
Whar does fire damage other than the Banner of Eternal Flame?
>>166530895
>I have never played Fallout 1 or 2 and probably never will
Closed the video there.
Be honest with me lads, is Bretonnia just going to be an Empire reskin?
>>166553805
We don't know.
>>166553715
Kills dryads, treekin and treemen faster.
Fucks up units with regeneration (trolls included).
Fire lore. Starshaft arrows. Irondrakes. Flame cannon. Some RoRs.
Just got a Critical Success from the Exploit Corruption action. AMA.
>>166553805
Why would they?
>>166554221
on a scale from 1 to 10 where 1 means I suck cock for fun and 10 means I suck cock for money and fun how gay are you?
>>166554221
What?
>>166554221
A/S/L?
>>166553805
They already aren't with the current roster, why the fuck would they be
>>166554338
3, I guess. I like to hire generals that have the curious trait.
>>166554379
What?
>>166554491
23/M/UK
>>166553805
The question doesn't even make sense.
>tfw wiping out an empire whose leader has the "hates rival empires" trait
its so good bros
lads, they've updated the wiki with some bretonnian stuff
http://whenc.totalwar.com/#/character/wh_main_brt_bretonnia/general/brt_louen_leoncouer
>>166555108
is this STUFF
>>166555108
Pretty sure all that stuff was always there, just unlisted.
>>166555108
Is there anything else? Bretonnia isn't showing up for me when I try to navigate it.
>>166553805
Can you imagine?
>"we hope you enjoy the entirely new units we have created for Bretonnia!"
>grailgunners
>grail cannon
>jade damsel, grey damsel, bright damsel
>swordsmen-at-arms
>reiksgrail knights
>and of course, the height of human ingenuity and faith in ze lady, the grail tank
>>166555108
HYPE FOR THE HYPE GOD
NEWS FOR THE NEWS THRONE
>>166555660
You can't navigate for any of the Bretonnian stuff, it's been there since launch though, you have to use direct links to get to it.
Don't remember how people go the links in the first place though.
>>166547938
Had a full sengoku campaign and aRotSwith darthmod and they were good enough for me. I was mainly interested in longer battles and the mod delivered, plus a little more nice stuff.
How do I into Chaos?
Really like the roster but I fucking suck at basically the entire horde mechanic.
Just started my first game as Syracuse on Rome 2. Is it normal for Carthage to declare war on turn 1, and then Rome to declare war on turn 2?
>>166556253
Not really. They both plus the Etruscan league should have declared war on you by turn 1
Playable Kislev when?
How do you do sieges in Shogun 2?
It seems like there is no other option than to send up units from every angle, casualties are huge.
Open battles are ez pz, but sieges seem shit compared to all other total war titles, even warhammers are better.
>>166556839
Look at campaign videos online. Players split their army in two, sending one to one side of the castle, distracting the enemy that way, while climbing the walls on the other side.
It's AI abuse, it's retarded, but that's how it works.
>>166556839
From what I've read about them. Is that generally you don't.
>>166532013
>Waaaah! The game is actually challenging now and i can't deal with it. Waaaah!
>>166555108
None of that is new, they haven't even added Morghur yet.
Hello where is Bretonnia please
>>166557780
Hellotomorrow
>>166557780
Most likely it will be 23rd of feb.
>>166555964
The campaign is completely broken and almost unplayable, sadly. Horde grows slow as fuck. Destroy the building that gives you marauders, build the chaos warrior building in its place, loot and raze the fuck out of everything.
It's just boring garbage compared to the other factions, that have good pacing and interesting strategy options. But I do agree that the units are cool as shit and Kholek is the most fun lord in the game.
>>166558081
It is a bit boring but it isnt difficult or anything.
>>166555964
Turtle in norsca, wipe out Varg get growth till you get Chosen play as Archaon and win the game.
>>166558081
Playing SFO simply having building generate an income is such a game changer, also any mod that increases horde growth is a necessity.
Main problem is you will never have anywhere near the same number of armies as a territory faction and you have to be so cautious with your hordes which goes against their reckless nature.
I don't mind being crafty but being forced to being so passive kinda sucks. Also there are no map objectives. Artifacts, great chaos portals, add something for me to do besides burn shit.
With some adjustments I like them but they need some love next installment.
All those zombies aren't going to kill jack shit but they can damn well tire the enemy out before the real shit gets engaged
>>166559053
That's basically the best way to play VC
You can support several stacks of useless fodder alongside your main armies, and they create gravesites to raise stronger units as well as excellent meatshields
>>166559162
It is also incredibly annoying thanks to the terrible movement speed of the zombies. They tend to crumble very fast aswell if they actually have to face a serious army.
>>166559053
How did you get gold ranks on those units? The highest I've ever been able to get has been silver.
>>166559053
>>166559162
>>166559252
>>166559259
But why would you ever want zombies when skeletons might actually get a few kills, move less painfully slow, have shields, and aren't much more expensive?
>>166559259
You can get some decent bonuses if you actually build for it and then there's Vlads training skill.
>>166559432
>Aren't much more expensive
They cost twice as much though?
>>166559684
This, I'm really tight on $$$
>>166559259
I can train them and they start with like 6 chevrons
>>166558556
I think Chaos rifts created from sacking settlements as chaos should act like the wood elf outposts, as in they don't provide any recruitment capability on their own but let you raise armies there and get replenishment, maybe let you build something that gives factionwide bonuses to horde growth/replenishment.
>>166559053
>>166559162
>>166559432
Haven't played VC yet but planning to do so once the old world edition comes out. Is it worth it to research techs that buff skellies and zombies early on or should i be focusing on something more worthwhile?
>>166559908
Ignore those and do all the economy techs first.
>>166559684
True, but it's just 50 vs 75 upkeep. Is it still worth it? Disclaimer: I am not good at the game, just wondering.
>>166559908
I get the city and building income, then the +movement range on map, then wrap up the income tree with the necromancer/crypt bonuses
I suppose the unit buffs aren't too bad but I haven't used them in awhile
>>166553715
tfw burning Athel Loren to the ground
with no survivors
>>166559860
Meh, outposts aren't that fun or interesting.
Herdstones and rifts should be places that I care about but instead are just a corruption-spreading place holder for a destroyed town. They can also just get recolonized for next to nothing. I'd rather build those elsewhere and raid/sack nearby for the sacrifices to improve them.
These sites could also house your infrastructure rather than the hordes so that you can be aggressive with armies.
For you to wipe out WoC and Beastmen you have to wipe out their lairs instead of merely defeating them in battle. Still a horde with no territory but something to care about.
Imagine battle maps featuring herdstones deep in the woods or ominous chaos blood sites.
>Tfw you're the only guy in the unit who could afford scale armor
>>166560435
>not taking elf sluts as sex slaves.
>>166560908
Lamellar armor* realised my brainfart the moment i posted this.
>>166560908
Couldn't afford arrows too it seems.
>>166559980
They are literally just a meashield for the important things that actually get things done. If you want fewer stacks you could use skeletons, But you might have to look after them a bit more, whichs adds some micromanagement.
I think Heinrich gets some lower upkeep for skeletons or something from his quest item, but that's just for his army.
I dunno
>>166560942
>ywn creampie a Spellslinger
Hello my dear friends of /twg/. How are you today?
>>166561847
Got some weird aches and pains in my chest, and I'm having trouble focusing on my work.
How are you?
>>166561847
Alive, in European history class learning about Peloponnesian War, waiting for my new computer parts to come.
Am also still sick.
>>166561847
I'm a 20 yr old virg who's recently put on weight, I'm bored all the time, got no job, and none of my classes have girls in them.
But other than that I'm ok
>>166561847
Im tired and stressed all the time. Dont have much money atm but Im alive.
Recently reached master-rank in overwatch though, so thats fun.
>>166562443
I used to be like that until I was put on anti depressants by my doctor. I got sertraline and I'm much more active, less bored, more energy now. I'd say it helped a lot.
>>166562241
Doing really fine, I have some time off before the last semester. Any mineral/vitamin deficiency by chance? I am drinking magnesium myself.
>>166562426
Get some food to boost the antibodies. The Peloponnesian wars are really fun. I liked how Athens got in trouble for being overconfident.
>>166562443
There seems to be a lack of a long term goal. Are you studying the thing you really want to do?
>>166562645
Good to hear. Stay well anon.
For Rome!!
>>166562749
>>166562879
>Are you studying the thing you really want to do?
I recently quit my history major, and I'm now in the welding program at the local CC, and im supposed to have my first certificate by the end of this year.
but even though I took two classes of it in HS I don't have a passion for it. I'm just doing it cause I know I'll find work as a welder
Hello you cunt
>Spends the last 10 years exterminating every nest of mudslimes he comes across
>Gets pic related
CAAAAAAAAAA!
>>166563232
>Skeleton Ambush
>>166563082
Aaaah.... Wome....
>>166563232
>that many cannons
Yeah you should be able to roast and eat that bird easy in an ambush
Giant might be a pain in the ass though - how's Manny's magic?
>>166563232
>No Bloodknights in time for Big Bird's invasion
Shameful desu Manny.
>>166563509
>How's Manny's magic
Not the best but should be good enough
I'm thinking sending the horses into the Hellcannons from the hill with the Vargheists from the other side
Skelly spears on their horses and giant more as a distraction than genuinely out to finish them, might send the Cairn wraiths as well since Big Bird has magic attacks so would like to keep them apart
Everyone else on the infantry and Big Bird
>>166561032
It's an ingenious strategy for that guy really.
>Can afford armor or arrows, not both
>Arrows don't protect you
>Armor does
>Just pretend you have arrows, let everyone else do the actual shooting
It looks like everyone else caught on to his scheme however and tried to copy him.
>>166563781
I would put the cairns on the chaos spawn and giant. I would also try to hold the hill in the pic since it will neuter their charges having to go uphill. Can use vargheists to kill their hell cannons.
>>166563781
Good plan
Does Manny have his Vortex spell?
Might be worth unleashing that on the infantry while your cavalry are spit-roasted chaos dorfs
When?
>>166563232
>5 flame cannons
Fuck Chaos
>>166564190
7 months
>>166563781
I'm really glad they made ambushes not shit, in Shogun 2 they were entirely pointless but know they're great fun.
All CA need to do now is manage to get the AI to set them properly
>>166564190
>wanting Slann with a garbage magic system
Good luck with that
>>166522352
GO AWAY NOT!SPACE MARINES.
If I wanted good counterparts to Warriors of Chaos, then for starters I wouldn't give the main troops masks and hammers from the get-go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3outQoC4qiA
Post best tracks in their game
>>166564332
>>166530354
Hats man.
>>166564680post feet
>>166564902
Of course it never ends
I want to give warhammer a try before buying it
how do i pirate it with the dlc's and updates?
>>166565609
>how do i pirate it with the dlc's and updates?
You can't
Get bent.
Also, Steam refunds
>>166565760
you go fuck yourself, there's a crack and i intend to use it
steam refunds only work for 2 hours of gameplay and i'd need at least half campaign to decide if the game is worth buying
>>166566146
>there's a crack
lol
>>166566146
>there's a crack and i intend to use it
There isn't though.
>>166564859
my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok86Hw5CZqE
>>166566146
>he doesn't know
>>166566290
Go head and try m8
Won't work.
>>166566584
fuck it
i'd rather wait for CA to release modding tools for Tilla, and for RoM to get released
>>166564332
Always the best feeling when tearing up those cannons.
>>166565449
>>166521919
Fuck. That reminded me of the dwarf starting area in Warhammer Online. Before they changed it so every race shared same boring Chaos/Human zones.
I don't think the Prophecy mentioned anything about this
>catapult is a much more effective artillery piece than the gunpowder cannons
What did CA mean by this?
>>166564680
>>166568301
CA confirmed for patrician waifu makers.
>>166569352
>enemy lord has been wounded!
Guys they have 5 hellcannons in this forest, how do I approach them without getting fucked?
I caught them in forced march
>>166560594
>imagine battle maps
yeah that would be wild wouldn't it
>>166569556
I've always found cannons more useful myself
>>166569767
They throw in new battle maps every patch tho. Adding some for herdstones and great rifts wouldn't be that out there. Some of the WElf maps are really good.
>>166569556
>Anti-infantry is better against an army of almost all infantry
Really enlivens the dendrites
Skaven when?
>>166569724
try to keep them in the forest/advance through the forests on your side, hellcannons get screwed over by forests due to only having one projectile since that giant purple blob tends to hit trees
>>166569976
:^)
>>166570002
As soon as CA wants to permanently ruin the series forever
>>166569949
Love the battle maps in bretonnia
>>166570329
>Not wanting to fight off an endless Vermintide
>Or be an endless rat wave
Can't wait to see Tilea and Estallia go up in flames and not because of elves
>>166570329
>ruin
Horned Rat pls go
Can some enlightened ten star help me with my army? General is bushido, 100 XP away from Bushido morale upgrade.
>>166570554
>tfw headshotting Stormvermins.
>>166571075
>Dark Elves that low
it's like you guys hate fun
So the next medieval gameplay available will be 1212 for Attila. What siege weapons will it include? Just your average onagers and trebuchets or also some gunpowder?
>>166571312
>flat uninteresting characters
>shitty units
>shit repeating crossbows
>ballistas only artillery
>some dull monsters
>half naked women somehow effective battlefield fighters with daggers
>won't even be proper navies
>fun
They really are a shit faction.
>>166569352
So that's why Archaon has those stupid horns.
>>166571075
This is disgusting
>>166571075
PROPER LIST:
Skaven -> Dark Elves -> Lizardmen -> everything else -> High Elves.
>>166571075
>reddit votes for the reddit rats
what a shock
>>166571075
MEANWHILE
>>166571520
>flat uninteresting characters
>shitty units
>shit crossbows
>only artillery
>no monsters
>no women because they're all fags
>won't even be proper navies
>fun
Dwarfs really are a shit faction.
Do you want me to go on with the other factions? They all suck tbqh
>sallying forth
>against horsefuckers
I'll never understand Total War AI
>>166571958
>you need monsters and women when you have big artillery guns and ironclads.
>>166571958
No they all have their style and if 1 person doesn't like it who cares. Like what you like pham
>attack a lord outside castle drakenhof
>see that the garrison is reinforcing directly behind me
>trap and destroy it
OUTTA MY WAY VAMP FUCKING SHITS
Volley gun or rocket battery?
>>166521428
>tfw somebody used your image from years ago
Now It got to wonder though, how hard would it be to add Dacia into RotS nowadays.
I mean all the unit models exist now thanks to R2 so it should be doable.
>>166572930
They are both fun.
I prefer the volly gun though, so that.
It does appear dmg
>>166570554
You know full well that CA won't do Skaven ANY justice. It'll be a shitty horde faction and none of the Skaven gimmicky unit will work to satisfaction.
>while I was off murdering elves the ai dwarf factions won the badlands bowl
now I just have to wait for shield of civilization to kick in and confederate them
>>166572930
Late game I use 2 rockets, 2 great cannon and 2 volley guns. Mainly due to the fact that you can replace your entire infantry line with 2-3 steam tanks.
Composition would be:
3 Steam tanks in the front
4 demigryphs to defend flanks and artillery from cav etc.
6 handgunners behind the steam tanks to deal damage as enemies encircle the steam tanks
.
6 artillery.
>>166570554
>Tilea and Estallia go up in flames and not because of elves
Skarsnik?
>warhammer
>warhammer
>warhammer
jesus can't CA release a new game so I can do some historical shitposting.
>>166573545
couldn't you do it with Attila?
>>166573434
>Skarsnik doing anything
watch that scum die every campaign to WElf/Empire stacks
>>166572886
thorgrim looks like hes smoking a big cigar there
>>166573971
Cigars actually are a thing in the Warhammer world.
>>166573971
Until I actually played the dwarfs I thought that too
>>166573316
That sounds like unfun, hit the start button and go watch porn or something for a few minutes.
>>166573545
>he can't do historical shitposting 24/7 no matter the day
You are a disappointment, Frenk. No wonder you lost the Holy Land to the murderers of Isa.
>>166573545
Just post your campaigns then.
GRIMNIR'S AXE THIRSTS
Wew laddy
>>166574498
Oh boy time for rapid colonisation
>>166574842
>dwarfs winning badlands bowl
pepper your angus m8
>>166556839
Burn down the gates
Burn the defenders
Burn everything
>>166549946
>Night Witches Intensifies.
>>166574905
Not for a long time
>>166543815
Because they are insane.
>>166575326
>forgetting about the pseudo-realm divide that occurs after chaos is defeated
have fun with the endless RoR Thorgrim/Belegar/Ungrim/Grombrindal doomstacks
>>166575551
>forgetting
This is akchually the first time I got rid of Chaos
>>166575615
Once great power aversion really starts to kick in and WoC aren't terror bombing the world prepare for those friendly ties to evaporate.
>>166575326
How did you not have the WE confederate?
>>166575615
after you get rid of the warriors/warherd of chaos, a pop-up will show talking about the "age of peace?" and then all of the ai will become more backstabby and expansionist, and since you are playing vamps those dwarfs are guaranteed to headbutt you in the groin when you aren't ready for it
FUCKING pontus
>>166576236
Yeah, it tends to do that.
Before the battle the relative strength bar was 99% red. That fucking Vampire's vortex spell is fucking amazing
the dog cuckapult thing works well
>>166577821
>Kemmler laughter intensifies
>>166565405
Obviously. But 'game which sold the most hats' and 'game which sold the most copies' don't really belong in the same category.
>>166573082
I saw it for the first time like a week and a half ago, and somebody else already used it as OP between then and now.
>>166578645
>that guy with no sword or shield down left.
>"Come on. Dogs? Really?"
What is the point of aspiring champions? I mean, why is their units number so low?
>>166579036
They're quite strong.
They have an encouragement buff.
They do magical attacks.
Some of these are desired sometimes, sometimes they are not.
They're a great pick in MP because their price is so low and the encouragement gives your lines a big boost.
In SP you're probably going to get more value with a bigger unit but they're still okay.
>Charlie is actually getting his shit kicked in by Westphalia & friends
I don't know how to feel about this.
>>166579036
they are there to give aoe encouragement to the normally low leadership marauder units, allowing them to stay in combat longer than they normally would, which makes marauder-heavy armies viable in mp. I wouldn't be surprised if Brettonia had some sort of dismounted knight unit that served a similar purpose
>>166579360
>Distmounted Grail knights (Lances and barding)
>>166579036
They have aoe "explosion" attacks too.
>>166579552
Grail Knights (Virtue of Empathy) (Peasant-Mounted Cavalry)
>>166579552
>Dismounted Grail knights(Outrider gun and DOOM soundtrack)
What should we expect of the Red Duke of Mousillon, my friends?
>>166569949
How about a fuckin village or two huh? Huh CA?!
>>166580864
>when Khazrak attacks helmgart
Tell me, /twg/.
What is Middenheim worth?
>>166522160
I was in the alpha a few months ago. What's happening this weekend?
Tomorrow is the day!
>>166581201
About treefiddy
>complete all of the minor objectives
>archaon still hasn't shown up
>>166581456
Inshallah, my furry infidel friend.
It is the day tomorrow, but only if god wills it.
>>166581725
>>166581725
Leave Islam
>>166571838
>mfw "Other" is Chaos Dwarfs
>5% (five percent) of players use them
>three times less popular than the next least popular, the Kangz
>Chaos Dwarf fags will still insist they are worth adding over less meme-tier factions
>still no MKTW campaign
>>166582506
Wouldn't "Other" also include stuff like Kislev which had a limited rulebook at some point?
>>166571413
>Gunpowder
>13th century
At best you'll get some meme chinese cannon that the Mongols bring over
>>166583404
Mario Kart Total War will never happen
gonna start a wre campaign
any tip?i'm love total wars but i'm shit at them and i'm most likely going to follow some dumb guide for retards
>>166584038
Where is your God now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JKrLZLfEeg
>>166584384
Don't lose.
>>166584496
Why would they choose Medieval times when Med 2 exists. So many time periods and they choose one that's already covered by a main game.
>>166584775
It fits the map
>>166584775
;^)
>>166584775
because people want a medieval total war that doesn't look like shit, doesn't have a shit ui, and isn't 11 years old
>>166584870
>Attila provinces
Kills all excitement every time.
>>166584961
>Shit UI
Kek. RTW and Med 2 had much better UI's than Rome 2 and Attila.
>>166584870
Fair enough, but 16th century Pike and shot would also fit the map and it hasn't been done yet.
Hey /twg/ just curious. Do you think that TW:WH has raised the profile of Warhammer fantasy? It was one of the best received games last year and sold over a million copies.
Also as a sidenote, do you know people that have been drawing fanart since TW:WH became a well selling title?
>>166584870
i want to play as the eternal venetian so bad
>>166585509
>>166585509
>Med 2 had much better UI
?????
Oh hey, it's WRE guy.
Wondering how my life has been going? Well, I think this picture of literally 1 or 2 endturns says enough. It takes like an hour to end turn with all these settlement defenses I have to do. At least I'm winning almost all of them.
The fight for every last scrap of proper roman soil continues
>>166584384
fight for every inch
Rate my army comp.
>>166587321
>go to look
>it's warhammer
oh wait I don't give a fuck
>>166587321
Marienburg/10
>>166579328
I wish this happened more in my AoC campaigns. The stupid pagan germans always end up battling each other and getting gobbled up by Carl Man or Charl Mane
>>166587546
Then post /his/ instead of whining
Thought I'd see how WRE were doing.
>>166583405
>>166582506
Also Dogs of War, since they had an official book in 5th edition, plus an updated list in 6th.
>its a 5 chaos chariots combine for 300 kills battle
>>166588430
is playing WRE fun?
>>166585835
Very nice. Do you try to snipe the enemy general, and if yes, how do you manage that? I always find that they're embedded in a blob of units and one or two will break off to chase my cav so I can't get proper charges in.
>>166588614
I don't know why you're asking that Saxon player when a WRE player literally just posted
>>166569949
yeah off in the horizon outside the map maybe. When are we going to fight in something that isn't a wide open field with some trees thrown around. I really wish fighting in quest battle areas on the campaign map would give you that battle map
Matter of fact is there a mod that makes ai use ambush stance more? Those maps are the shit and I love that little cutscene of your column marching
>>166588614
of course
>>166585835
is playing WRE fun?
>>166588831
cause I'm stupid/absent minded
>>166588614
You mean the germanic gang rape?
>>166588614
It's hard in a good way.
>>166570776
Do people still play that?
>>166588801
yes, and the secret is patience. focus all your archer fire on enemy cavalry, and as soon as they're gone, take out the enemy missiles with your scout equites and then move in for some cycled rear charges on the blob with the general in it (there will usually be two blobs that form on each town square) sometimes if your infantry are wavering, you have to do those charges before taking on the enemy missiles, but this is risky. Basically after a couple rear charges the general and his men near him will break and then the rest of the army breaks when he dies. Patience is everything, you should practice on very hard so you can keep trying the first few WRE defenses (which you can win in every case on turn 1) until you manage it and know what to do
Only problem is those FUCKING collesium towns which are awful to defend.
>>166588984
>not going on the offensive and taking out all the settled Germans on your border by turn 3
>have semi-good army, not enough for siege
>lure VC out of drakenhof with their reinforcing garrison.
>utterly destroy their army
>siege the next turn
>the garrison is full again
wth?
>>166589535
Kill them
Raise them
>>166588614
WRE is a grueling battle against the barbarian hordes of germania, the opportunistic savages of africa, the perfidious sassanids, and the literal apocalyptic waves of huns that swarm eastern europe, a battle that requires brave roman men to fight to the death over every single scrap of roman land (like>>166585835)
, a battle for the survival of the greatest empire the world has ever seen.
It may seem impossible at the beginning, but it can be won
When the initial onslaught has been beaten off, when the frontiers of africa and Britannia have been secured, then the fun begins
And by fun I mean burning every hovel east of the rhine and north of the danube to the ground, driving the germans back into their forests before ensuring they never again threaten the roman empire - fun is winning multiple pyrrhic victories against hunnic doomstacks, and then hunting down the survivors and slaughtering every last man, woman, and child with your reinforcing stacks, fun is punishing every tribe, kingdom, or horde that dared attack the roman empire while it was at its weakest, and ensuring that the roman empire stands for another 500 years
>>166590327
>the survival of the greatest empire the world has ever seen.
No they've moved to Constantinople at this point.
>>166588614
depends on how you play it
playing on legendary is quite possibly the worst experience ever as any mistake can take you from stability to holy shit I just lost the entirety of africa and spain in the span of 5 turns.
playing on normal can be quite nice since the bullshit level difficulty is less keen on screwing you over.
>>166585509
>Attils map
>fitting for a 16th century game
The fact that half of Sweden and all of Muscowy would not be in the game at all is kinda a big deal.
>>166590526
X^)
>>166590939
Takbir
>>166590939
those walls were so amazing that it took the literal invention of the biggest cannon ever created just to take them down. That's a thousand years of invaders attempting and failing to breach the same defensive structure that originally kept the goths and huns at bay.
It's damn impressive no matter how you look at it
>>166582506
>>166583405
They will be added, there is no reason to add Kislev which had some units back in the 1990s. There are only 15 armies, but they said they were adding 16 races. Chaos Dwarfs sit right in the Dark Lands between the Ogres and the rest of the world and received an army supplement back in 2011.
There is no fucking way they add Kislev over the Chaos Dwarfs unless they deliberately refuse to include the Dark Lands despite them being visible on the map similar to Nehekhara, in which case Ogres will be a horde and I hope you enjoy yet another one of THOSE types of factions.
Also the Badlands would continue to have a lackluster campaign compared to the Empire without more enemies.
>>166591069
Inshallah
>>166591214
>in which case Ogres will be a horde and I hope you enjoy yet another one of THOSE types of factions.
Ogres will be combined into one faction with the halflings and start out in the Moot. They will be the main antagonist of Marius Leitdorf in his DLC.
>athel loren
why
>>166575326
>Elves at war with Dwarfs
>>166591358
>no facial hair
>>166591583
`,:^)
>>166591406
Probably this guy
>>166590939
That's just some cockroaches crawling over a corpse.
It was the Venetians that took the kill.
>middle of the fucking apocalypse
>empire still has time to declare war on border princes
>>166591214
Southern Dark Lands are important for the Skaven and Greenskins.
The rest is worthless, and the Ogres have to be a horde or they'll be fucking around at the back of ass-nowhere for all the game.
The reason to add Kislev over Chaos Stunties is relevance.
>>166552443
>A billion of the exact same unit
They can look considerably different, but it's just AOR, they wear the equipment of their region, or would you rather one generic legionary for the entire empire?
>>166588961
only if you're a masochist
I'm not doing this for fun, I'm doing it for her
>>166592134
Not the poster you're replying to but if it would save development time for more important things, sure.
>fight against chaos on a open battlefield as empire with infantry heavy army
>chaos has 6 chariot units
just fuck me in the ass no lube
>>166592116
Kislev is neither relevant nor does it have a roster. And adding more humans isn't really compelling to gameplay over adding evil dwarfs and hobgoblins.
>>166591214
>despite them being visible on the map similar to Nehekhara
You're reading WAY too much into that. That's only there so that you don't see an empty void when the camera pans too close.
There is almost zero detail to it. It probably took one person twenty minutes to add it to the map.
>Maxed Attila requires more Vram than Warhammer
I guess I'll have to play on 1080p.
>>166592251
>>fight against chaos on a open battlefield
That's your first mistake. Face Chaos just like you would face huns.
>It fucking runs much worse
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME
>>166591662
>moustache
Good enough
>>166592536
Forgot pic
>>166592719
Attilla is a broken game. Play Shogun 2.
>>166592846
This and remember that if our daimyo is to become shogun, military ruler of all Japan...
>>166592526
That's a really bad comparison.
>>166593001
The only chaos armies that bring any infantry at all are the main rushfuck trio. Everything else is all marauder horsemen spam and chariots.
>>166592846
Nah I prefer Attila
Time to start a new campaign anyways
>raze athel loren before welves steamroll
>ai dwarfs eliminate greenskins all by themselves
>vamp cunts never get out of slyvania
>archaon never makes it south of praag
This campaign was easy, idk how much of it was grombrindal but the valaya/grimnir choices as well as his blue tree make him op af, similar to vlad's "every unit including garrisons will be triple gold chevrons" ability
Warhammer post-chaos is boring, and I've already completed multiple campaigns as every race so I'm done w/ this one
>end of January 2017
>still no Bretonnia
>still no Old Friend
>still no Mousillon
>>166593483
>still no news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPFMnrUAoSg
This is so beautiful. Starts at minute 22.
I wish I could play darthmod empire.
They should've added Ghorgon to the beastmemes. They lack a super-heavy, which is abit ridiculous for an aggressive army.
Giants? Really? I feel like I've been taken for a ride.
>>166548429
What a waste of fucking time. This is why mods take years to release because modders are so hopelessly autismal with their obsessing over small, inconsequential details. And having no oversight to keep their shit in check.
This is exactly the sort of shit you add AFTER the initial release not before. Lay a groundwork and build on top of it. I don't think anyone would have cared if RESKINNED AOR #92 was missing at release.
What's the best barbar faction in Attila? I've tried to play as them before, but the whole thing where there isn't just a dedicated military tree to recruit units from bugged me.
>>166594056
ostrogoths. amazing default roster along with whatever roman troops you can raise to supplement (testudo units and elite crossbows)
>>166594056
barbar units in attila come from either the yellow public order buildings, or the smithy artisan tree, with cav coming from the farming trees
>>166594056
Franks
>>166594056
saxons
>>166593712
>playing darthmod empire
I had some fun memories. A siege where over 200 000 men died but managed to destroy the fortress.
or battles like this.
>>166556839
>It seems like there is no other option than to send up units from every angle
Low walls - arrows easilly carpet defenders
>Age of Charlie on max settings with FOTE
Is there a better feeling?
>>166594604
Is FOTE any good? I heard it's not being developed
>>166594056
Saxons have HEROIC cavalry. Don't you want to be a HERO anon?
>>166592138
You're an inspiration to us all anon, Godspeed to you.
>>166594462
Watching fire by rank cut down waves of Mughal spearchuckers redeemed Empire for me. Plus the GOAT naval combat.
>>166593237
>Main stunties faction
>boring
we could have told you that
>tfw no total war game set in Ancient China
kill me
>>166595118
I find empire fun. Even vanilla for those two same reasons. Artillery is also beautiful to watch in empire with the assortment of fire types.
>>166595250
All campaigns after chaos/your natural enemies are gone are boring - going around btfoing greenies, beasties, elves and chaos fucking shits is fun, but going around recolonizing and fighting all the human factions (who all have the same exact units) is boring
Bretonnia when? Bored as fuck over here.
1-3 Start and finish a Skarsnik campaign
4-6 Play F4
7-9 Play SSE
0- Play LW2
TWW Factions Ranked by Quality of Design and Fun of Campaign
T1) Vampire Counts, Bad Moons
2) Dwarfs
>Would be tied in first but Badlands bowl gets real old real fast.
T3) Argwylon, Wood Elves
4) The Bloody Handz
5) Greenskins
6) Clan Angrund
7) The Empire
8) Beastmen
9) Warriors of Chaos
>>166594785
It's good for AOE
>>166595450
Whom do you imagine playing that? Historical games do not sell as well as warmeme, imagine playing historical that is not based on Europe
Just play m2 China
>>166595563
Nah stunties are so fucking boring on the battlefield. I beat my campaign with almost nothing but vanilla warriors and quarrelers and it was mindnumbing.
>>166542643
>>166542459
keeps telling me i dont have permission to view, any insight into why?
>>166594056
Ostrogoths have the same roster wre has, so you can do what romans couldn't
>>166595720
Stunties are down the fucking bottom. Beastmen are good fun. Empire is decent fun. Bloody Hands are painful.
>>166595868
You need to login/make an account.
The mod forums is one of their enticements against pirates.
Shit I want to see in TW Warhammer to improve it after thinking it over a bit:
1.) A manual mode of fire for archers, so I can direct their trajectory so they can even fly arrows while being behind allies. Line of sight shouldn't realistically matter much.
2.) Have a way to replenish units in a formation nearly instantly by moving a full strength unit directly next to it. A transfer of forces kind of like how it's done on the GC map, but there's no need to directly move the position of the wounded unit.
3.) More advanced formations. Shield wall, that triangle shit that's done with the cavalry, etc.
Warfare is a little too simple in TW Warhammer right now.
>>166595987
>Have a way to replenish units in a formation nearly instantly by moving a full strength unit directly next to it.
Do you know how many Charlemagnes that would cost
>>166595987
>that triangle shit that's done with the cavalry, etc.
Ah yes another game in which I need to avoid a button that will reduce my cavalry's combat effectiveness by 50%
>>166595987
>1.) A manual mode of fire for archers, so I can direct their trajectory so they can even fly arrows while being behind allies. Line of sight shouldn't realistically matter much
I'm surprised CA hasn't implemented the alt+right click firing that artillery has for missile units. It really is useful in some circumstances
>>166595987
If you direct a hellcanon shot you can 30% a unit, an archer you might do 4% whippie
Now that would be nice
Never meant a damn thing and I'd rather micro everything else. I'd rather micro spells, flank cav traps, pulling lords in and out of combat, literally anything would be more useful
>>166595720
>Dwarfs
>Second
stopped reading there
>>166596276
I fucking hate that the hellcannon can be manually aimed that well.
I want a battlefield tactics game, not a magical cannon simulator.
>>166596416
hellcannon is sentient, and if you are manually guiding it you aren't micromanaging your other units.
But if you are firing it you can not only shoot past its maximum range, but also fire faster than it normally does
>>166596610
Yeah I don't think it's imbalanced. I just detest that the feature is that much better than automated fire.
Your army should not perform better because of your time spent controlling an arbitrarily easy wonky gimmick feature.
>>166585509
Yea, let's make a gunpowder mod for a game without gunpowder mechanics.
Can you refute this harsh truth?
>>166597007
>just bought the game
stopped reading there
>>166592372
Chaos Dwarfs are going to be in the game, come to peace with it.
>>166597007
Latest grudge of the Great Grudge War.
How high does this grudge rank?
>>166597007
Every single total war will receive shit reviews and CA have worked like this since Rome 2, even Shogun 2 had shitty faction packs.
This is how most games work, and will continue to work that is the harsh truth.
>>166597007
It's only going to get worse with the sequel.
>>166597007
>he still played 70 hours instead of refunding
Can you be more incoherent?
>trying to use manual fire mode with hell cannons
>shots are falling 50-75m shorter than their effective range
??????
>>166597007
>2/3 campaigns
Is he saying 2/3s of the campaigns or 2 or 3 campaigns? I guess it's the latter and he's complaining he doesn't get to play beastmemes in drakwald or elfs in bretonnia.
>>166597256
Wrong post buddy. I'm just saying that what you can see beyond the map right now is less of an indication of getting content there than Attila's camera panning out over the Atlantic is going to expand the map to Central America.
Any dull retard knows that they will include the Dark Lands, but the reason is because it is an important area for the Ogres and the Skaven and the Chaos Stunties and the Greenskins. Not because somebody in the development team handed the map to an intern and said "hey put some land here having an empty ocean doesn't make sense".
>>166597576
Because he like the game and thinks it is good, he just does not want to pay for any DLC.
This is like 90% of the reviews.
>>166597441
>WE HATE DLC STOP DOING DLC CA REEEEE
>DLC continues to sell well
Clan Angrund is outnumbered by the United Dwarven Realms in terms of armies.
To compensate I've had to heavily rely on airpower to push their armies back.
OH NO!
>>166597639
move your mouse. Y axis is inverted.
You can manually move the projectile in flight.
>>166597576
>get 3 days worth of gameplay out of it
>still complain
Mousillon and Middenland can't come soon enough. Once all starting factions including Bretonnia but excluding Dwarfs have their own second starting place I expect there to be less bitching from new buyers.
>>166597720
I honestly dont know what they want, if CA make content 6 months down the line people say its cut content.
Even if it was half the price people would complain.
To be fair, all of the mini-campaigns so far are absolute shit and only exist to inflate the prices for the races.
>>166597809
>CA tries to pretend to be a benevolent company by releasing units they missed later on as FLC
>customers call them jews
>>166597993
4 FACTIONS
>>166597007
Maybe they should review the dlcs instead.
>>166597752
[STRIKE PACKAGE ALERT INTENSIFIES]
>>166598064
>336 hours only beat the game as Dwarf and Chaos
wew lad
>>166598064
if these were reviews on the dlc pages they would be fine, the DLC is really overpriced and CA is obviously throwing in half-assed mini-campaigns in to justify the pricing, which is especially ridiculous when you consider both the beastmen and the wood elves recycled mechanics from vanilla factions
>tfw before ancient empires
>>166596226
>alt+right click to pick a spot for artillery to shoot at
Even if it's not pointing at a unit? You can do this?
>>166598951
oh warhammer plebs, never gets old
>>166597374
About this much. (Was about to post my shop but someone already posted it here, I'm flattered)
>>166566283
THE USERS
ARE NOT
SATISFIED
>>166598639
Fuck man remember when the Reikspaths were only available to Empire?
>>166598951
Yes.
>>166595987
>Shield wall
Shield walls is just a button that adds some stats to a unit. I wouldn't really call it advanced. How you set up your troops aka army formation as a whole matters way more. Shield walls is mostly has always been 300 spartans rule of cool thing in total war, especially since didn't work too well. Lets just say you are not a fucking genius for making units go into shield wall.
>>166599351
Okay.
>>166599351
Gonna roll for a campaign after my Chaos one is done I guess.
Also anyone got the Attila one? I need a new history game campaign after I am done with my Sendai campaign.
>>166599715
I'm so sorry.
Alright lads here I go.
I WANT A NEW MEDIEVAL DLC FOR ATTILA FUCK YOU CA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>166600414
Please the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
>>166600525
1212
Soon
>>166600740
Holy shit that looks good
Can you play asByzantium?
>>166599351
LET'S GO
>>166599351
roll
>>166599351
Rawlin for Co-op
Can someone explain why there's cultural aversion here?
>>166599351
rerawlin for co-op buddy!
>>166600936
Byzantine Successor States:
Empire of Nicaea
Latin Empire
Empire of Trebizond
Despotate of Eprius
You don't get to play Byzantium or Pontus
>>166601281
I think that's a debuff all the hellenic successor states have.
>>166601281
Because you're a successor state instead of a TRUE Greek!
>>166600414
I thought Foreign Invasion got scrapped.
What mod?
Kicked Spain out of the Iberian Peninsula and made peace on the condition that they break alliances with France and the Batavian Republic. Time to move on France with all of my forces.
>>166601332
>You don't get to play Pontus
FUCKING MODDERS
>>166599652
>increase bracing and unit depth in exchange for width and mobility
deeper than the current "press this button for +20 to melee attack in an aoe" system that warhammer has rn
>>166600740
you mean never right?
>empire of nicaea
>latin empire
DELET THIS
>>166602065
Let's just say I don't think Medieval 2 has simple battles because of the less focus on abilites like shield wall. I think the loss is overrated.
I've messed around with brightness and such for ages but I still can't it so I can see what orders I'm giving when it's snowy
>>166602901
>that army comp
LMAO, just spam infinite 19x grave guard stacks and autoresolve your way to victory
>>166602901
I use a mod that changes the icons
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691730691&searchtext=ui
>>166603128
Looks like exactly what I want
>>166601540
Total FotS
THE DAWI ENDURE
>>166603628
>>166603000
What is wrong with his army?
I probably would swap cairn wraiths for crypt horrors and maybe hex wraiths for blood knights, but the rest is fine.
>>166603840
>>166603000
>just spam infinite 19x grave guard stacks and autoresolve your way to victory
I don't think a lot of total war players like to play that way.
>>166604039
Fucking buff circles ruining screenshots
>>166603000
>>166604035
>>166604158
any army comp works when you can summon meatshields and spam passive regen
>>166604231
the worst things are the little pillars of lights around generals
>>166604231
>>166603628
>>166603840
>>166604039
You got that as a random battle on the campaign? Love getting that stuff.
>>166604275
What can you do, I just wish K would turn them off
>>166604456
It happens if you fight at blackfire pass
>>166604625
>It happens if you fight at blackfire pass
I know.
>>166603584
what exactly does that mod do? Looked on moddb and the description was useless
>>166595720
This list is bad, Empire is the most fun and starts on the best part of the map. The only thing Empire is missing is a monster unit, but if it had that there would be no reason at all to play the other factions.
Playing as Charlemagne in AoC feels like a lite and more comfy version of WRE
>>166605812
Just remember that you're a stinking barbar rather than a true roman.
Sigmar preserve us what a fucking war of attrition that was. A dozen elf agents assasinating, blocking and assaulting every turn, attrition from hell and slow movement. Athel Loren chewed up my armies like a meatgrinder worse than the Norscans when they were on crack back at release.I'M GOING TO BUILD AN ALTAR TO SIGMAR OUT OF YOUR BURNT OAK OF AGES YOU KNIFE-EARED PIECES OF SHIT
>late game agent spam
Why is this allowed?
>>166595720
Most fun
Empire
Vampire counts
Skarskink
Fun
Wood Elves
Greenskins
Bloody hand
kinda fun
Beastmen
Clan Angrund
Not very fun
Chaos
Dwarf
Some bloody wanker will defend this
>>166606643
>Chaos and beastmen are fun to watch on battle replay, not fun to play though.
>>166606643
Dwarfs are fun. Deserve more credit, at least. They have the best research tree in the game, 'It ain't me' copters, fun artillery, cool lords (though not as fun as Karl, Tree, or Kholek).
>>166606643
You're playing chaos wrong.
Choas is extremely fun if played right. I understand it's very tempting to just Chosen blob everything, but use their monsters.
Armoured Chaos trolls, Dragon Ogres, Manitcores. Motherfucking Kholek.
Try using Steel Faith overhaul too.
>>166606742
I don't mind paying for something I enjoy, each dlc gives me another 50 or so hours.
:)
>>166606742
Now try the same thing but factoring in sales, preorder bonuses (including chaos for free) and subtracting the price of the DOTA box
It isn't that bad with the possible exception of the minicampaign dlcs
>>166607225
I enjoy their roster and play them online, but their campaign is a bit dull just siege after siege.
I have beat them three times now, once on med, vh and legendary. I don't think they are that bad but them the general opinion from people is that suck.
>>166607225
The units are great, it's the slow ass horde growth and stupid infighting rule that makes their campaign suffer. And fighting horse marauders is annoying.
>>166607515
>>166607478
Both valid complaints, but I think they're pretty fun when it comes to coop.
The infighting shit is cancer I agree, but I can understand it since they have such a strong roster. As opposed to beastmemes who have much weaker units.
>>166607225
Chaos is dragged down by how awful the Warhammer sieges are. I'm amazed that after everyone complaining about machine gun towers in R2 and Attila CA decided to double down and make the towers cover the entire map and capable of destroying siege equipment
>>166607241
>>166607253
>bloody wankers defending this
Called it mates
>>166608070
It is nice that the walls are a thing these days to fight over but it winds up being the only thing fought over. The approach phase usually made walls obsolete, but we need a little bet of a setup. Defensive artillery emplacement slots, multiple defense tiers, and more city to fight over would be nice. Also being able to order shit getting sacked and burned.
>>166606742
What the fuck is wrong with your computer?
The dollar sign is all weird
>>166608070
That was the next logical step. The players complain about sieges being too easy? Just make it so that they can't keep any forces in reserve during a siege since the towers will hit and kill most of their units.
Players complaining about sieges being too stupid now? Let them mod it out, but make sieges become too easy again since the towers aren't killing over half of their units.
>>166608556
good bait
>>166608435
I'm not defending it, I'm suggesting you examine it as someone who isn't 100% dumb as to how they spend their money
I'm trying to do a vandal gameplay, any tips?
>>166608070
I don't mind their power really. What I do mind is that autoresolve ignores it.
I'll NEVER play an offensive siege while auto-resolve gives you that much better results.
I can resist the urge in field battles, but autoresolve refusing to add the 200casualties or so tax that towers demand is pure bullshit.
>>166608556
He's using the monopoly money skin. No idea why the symbol for currency follows the quantity though.
>>166608435
You are like little baby.
Watch as someone defends this.
>>166608934
>>166609116
Nice man.
I got the defense though.
Warhammer is newer.
More people are buying Warhammer.
If Warhammer is more expensive they make more money.
If CA makes more money they can pay Darren more.
If they pay Darren more, he can sample more high-class prostitutes.
>>166609415
Who is this Darren?
>>166599351
rollin
>>166609517
Our guy.
The leakmaster himself.
>>166609728
Got best lord in one roll, very nice.
>>166610343
But you didn't get Skarsnik.
>>166599351
rollin pls no horde
>>166580536
Nothing unique, it's FLC. It should be a vampire leader leading bret men as far as I am aware? And keeping yourself hidden and shit seems important. It's just gonna be an alt start for VC
>>166533776
>>166534526
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/3we71g/any_historical_significance_to_the_owl/
>>166611919
ca has some cheeky fucks
>>166608703
help pls
>>166612798
Just, like, go to spain breh.
>>166531641
That owl has four wings.
>>166588847
But it does anon, if you fight a random battle close to a quest battle area, you get that map.
>>166612798
Is it your first game of Attila or something? Vandals are pretty standard.
>>166612798
Sack coastal cities for ez dosh
>>166612798
Sack every coastal town you come across on your way to Spain
Conquer Spain
Win game
>>166613767
why everyone say conquer spain in attila
what so good about spain?
>>166614202
Gold
Iron
It's at the edge of the map so you only have to defend the mediterranean and the pathways to africa and france
/twg/ are there any 19th century mods out there? I'd really like something with the Crimean War or German Unification. Hell, I'll settle for something outside of Total War. Pride of Nations runs like ass.
>>166599351
Rollin!!!
>>166614904
There's a Zulu War mod for Napoopan but I dont think there's anything for Europe in that period.
They may do a number on the AI but holy fuck are the White Huns dirt compared to the Huns.
>>166581282
Another alpha
>>166617964
what
Did they redo the whole game because it was garbage?
Just made this OC from one of my screens, rate this meme.
>>166618375
Idk, but they're having another temp alpha this weekend
>>166618789
Poor font. Not the best because he's the only lad there.
>>166599351
someone pls post attila one
or shogun 2
>>166618915
>he's the only lad there
That is why I though it was funny. I paused it at that exact moment and got a good laugh from watching the poor guy try and get away from the S T A B B I N
>Poor little Chaos Boys, Archaon Edition
This wraps up my first Grombrindal campaign, by far the easiest I've ever played in this total war. Ancestor bonuses are completely overpowered, and the only reason I didn't wrap this up around turn 70 was that I was busy sending 3 stacks to Kraka Drak.
Is it common knowledge around here that Grombrindal is easymode?
>>166620006
Yeah Stunties are easy mode and he's their best lord.
>>166620113
Their campaign feels kind of wrong. I wanted it to be
>Small numbers of heavy duty dwarfs slowly and steadily push back massive Ork horde, relying on elite troops and un-siegable towns
Instead I got
>Limitless dwarf warriors to outnumber and outclass the enemy, maneuver warfare, and towns flipping back and forth unless they are massively built up and fortified.
I home CA revamps the whole Dwarf-Ork conflict when the expansion includes the Skaven.
>>166620435
Yeah Skaven should help a lot, and having something east and south of the mountains will make it less of a corner-camp.
>>166620435
>I home CA revamps the whole Dwarf-Ork conflict
WE WUZ TOMB KANGZ AND SHEEYIT
>>166621361
>>166621491
That's not what I'm talking about. The entire feel of the campaign is wrong. It should be really, really, really hard to take a major dwarf settlement (think M2TW layers of walls, layers of towers, lava moats with narrow crossings, etc.). It should also be hard for the Dorfs to push out, and their units should be either smaller in size or the orc units should be roughly double in size.
The whole narrative is supposed to be "horde pushes back dying defensive race"
Instead, one can crank out legions of dwarf warriors, and outnumber greenskins more often than not. In addition, aside from the fact that it is dorfs manning the walls, siege battles are no different with them than with the empire or vamps.
>>166621608
>"horde pushes back dying defensive race"
But that's wrong you fruity dingus. They clearly state in the opening cinematic, the Dwarves are resurgent and starting to make a comeback after an age of decline.
>>166621762
All of the lore in game states that Dwarf cities are nearly unsiegable, and the orks are described as a green tide. Even some of the chapter objectives refer to the age of reckoning as a last gambit by a dying race to revitalize itself.
I'm fine with legions of dorf warriors, but make the greenskin tide an actual tide, and make sieges a big deal. Undeway elements are also weirdly underutilized in that regard.
>>166620006
Grombrindal makes the Legendary campaign a fucking joke.
>>166622013
Early on I'm guessing you use the research/upkeep blessing, then switch it to army god mode for lategame chaos wiping.
>>166621608
I assumed you just meant political dynamics because you mentioned a new race.
You mean to say WHEN skaven arrive they'll coincide that release with the revamp you're after?
>>166623615
Yeah, I didn't post precisely. I doubt they'll do a revamp of civilizations that use the Underways before they drop the Skaven expansion, and I'm stating what I hope they change for the Dwarfs and Orks in that expansion.
desu you could fix a lot of the issues with Dwarfs with MORE grudges, and have unsettled grudges be a big deal. I agree with what the other anon is saying but they are suppose to be hampered by their honor, and it's never really an issue.
Ave
>>166625664
Helloyou fucking homo kill yourself
>>166625664True to Caesar
>>166613029
Don't mess with me dude I might have to kiss you, I swear I've never had that shit happen
>>166627086
Total War: New Vegas when?
Fall of the Eagles is actually not that good. Its unfinished and doesn't really change much or immerse me.
>>166624085
We should all just use the no grudges mod for Warhammer :)
>>166599942
That's not Hadrian's wall, it actually appears behind the playable area as a long jagged wall.
>>166627536
That's how it appeared to me on release when I fought in that area. I thought it never got fixed. Please show pic.
I need an Attila overhaul.
FotE + Europa Perdita are buggy as fuck.
What other options do I have?
>>166627793
That new stupid one with the Spartans
>>166627883
What's it called?
Wait hold on what, the spartans? Does it change the time period or something?
>>166627094
See >>166604676
>>166604456
I get the sylvanian quest battle maps all the time as random battles.
>>166601332
Can you Confederate with other successor states and form the Byzantine empire?
>>166627613
I'm on my phone right now. Just start a campaign as WRE and put an army on the wall. Delclare war on Caledonian L's and wait a turn.
>>166628832
I have to test that out later today.
>>166600740
damn, gibbe campaign soon pls!
>>166628025
Am I missing a meme here?
I am genuinely looking for a good overhaul bois.
Hopefully today is the day.
>>166629314
Age of Vikings
>>166629314
The one he's talking about is a mod called "Terminus:Imperium" it's an alternate history mod with silly stuff and a ton of new factions, it's quite fun, especially cause it has smaller roman factions.
Apart from that there's Herakleios: War of Three Faiths (make sure you download the rise and fall of religions version, it's more balanced) Tetrarchy: Civil War and Age of Viking. the Ancient Empires devs (overhaul that change's the game to Rome 2's setting) said that optimistically they can release the full version in February, and Medieval Kingdoms is still far from a release.
>>166592415
well it does have significantly larger battles
>declare war on AI
>they just sit in their city until I attack or make peace
fun
>>166630513
It depends on their traits (e.g defensive) and size.
>>166599351
roll
>>166592415
well it does have significantly larger battles
>>166592415
http://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-attila-on-extreme-settings-is-designed-for-future-gpus/
I've been seeing people complain about the Wurzag campaign, but I don't really get why. Throw a few of you're savage arrer boyz at their front lines, flank with savage orks, and use squigs or boar boys for the artillary/archers. armor piercing hasn't been all that big of a deal for me due to Wurzag and night goblin shamans being able to buff the hell out of most of the units.
>>166631505
sometimes in the early game you can get overwhelmed in a few turns, I think if the top knots get called into the war.
I had no problem my first attempt at wurzag but I did try again earlier today and didn't make it 10 turns before 3 full stacks were at my capital.
>>166593941
It's literally all premade you fuecking autist. AE just stuck it in, they also had a guy do it who only cares about Romans.
>>166593941
It would have made no difference if it was 1 legionary unit or 100 to the length of time until release.
Osprey's art budget has really taken a hit
>>166631505
It's probably worse on higher difficulties but honestly yeah it's not that bad from my personal experiences on hard. In sieges they can be very hard for them too. Like if you don't spread your entry points out you'll get murdered on the walls thanks to the 0 armor.
I think it's mostly from people who jsut don't know how to use them and treating them like any regular army.
Do Nasty Skulkers count as Goblin units in regards to buffs and recruitment costs?
>>166633595
Yes.
>>166633595
Are they goblins?
>>166594785
It's really really good but they stopped developing it before they got the Celts and Nordics done. Officially it's just "on hiatus" but I think that's code for "nobody cares about Attila anymore".
I literally wrote the bookwell literally edited a book containing a chapteron warfare in Ireland and Scotland during the early middle ages and have done a little tinkering with the Celtic factions in Attila in my own time so I've got a lot of the work done for them but nobody on the team responded to my message about giving them help. Oh well.
>>166633805
I care.
I also care about the anon that was making a new Age of Britannia for AoC.
>>166599351
here we, here we, here we fucking go
>>166633805
Could you upload your work to steam workshop?
>>166633918
Yea this, I want to play as Alt Cut and make the kingdom of Scotland. There's no unqie units for Ireland or Scotland though which really annoys me.
>giving my Big Uns a razor standard (+10 ap damage) lowers my auto resolve chance
>>166635478
>razor standard
Your Big 'Uns can't handle the edge
>>166635478
>tfw you get 3 (Three) Razor standards and put them all in one army
That banner is ridiculously good.
Slam that shit on some shielded infantry and they become better than the great-weapon variety.
>confederate Wurrzag
>he loses the upkeep cost for Savage Orcs
>>166548429
So this means that we gonna get 3 units as Parthia , Lusitanii or Greek states right?
What a fucking bullshit
Wood elves are the easiest and most boring campaign. (Aside from dwarf)
Prove me wrong.
>>166635478
>>166636297
Now this might be a dumb question but does it work on ranged units too or just in melee?
>>166636848
You're not wrong, they're pretty broken as they are.
>>166636989
Only adds melee damage.
You can tell the difference by the little symbol, the symbol for armor piercing melee damage is a breastplate with a little white explosion, the symbol for armor piercing ranged damage is the same, only with a little arrow going into the white explosion.
>>166636989
just melee (you can give it to ranged units, but +10 AP damage is wasted on them)
>>166633469
How am I supposed to complete quests like "Raze or sack 3 different Empire cities" when Middenland, the only surviving empire type faction, only owns one city?
>>166637635
if its a quest it should complete if you raze that one remaining city. if its a mission ignore it.
>>166637635
Raze it, as soon as there are no targets left that fit the quest it will complete automatically and you will go to the next one.
Same way you can complete Karl Frank's Runefang quest by confederating/conquering Nordland instead of allying with them.
>>166637635
Sack
Sack again
let them rebuild
Sack again
LILLY
>>166637736
I tried that it has to be on different cities each time
>>166637884
SLOVENLY
>>166637729
Why do you have to be friends with Nordland again to get your runefang?
>ywn travel back in time and kill Charles Martel
>ywn travel back in time and use C4 to blast a hole into the Theodesian Walls in 717
>Europe will never be enlightened by the true faith and result in the renaissance starting at least half a century earlier
>ywn save Europe from worshiping the corpse of some hippie which fundamentally undermined the active and vigorous nature of Europeans by forcing them into a passive culture and mindset of lazy hippies
>>166637086
>>166637053
OK thank you both very much!
>>166638226
Because the quest is because saving Nordland from Norsca fucking shits.
>>166638275
t. abdula al-saladin
>>166638576
>worshiping Jesus
Is Empire artillery better than dwarf artillery?
Luminark is the best single target artillery.
Hellstorm rocket battery seems more effective than fire cannons at killing low armor infantry.
And the organ gun is no better than the helblaster volley gun.
>tfw to intelligent to create a fresh meme
I think fully kitted out Engineer's make dwarf artillery better but fuck ranking up an engineer just to make your artillery slightly better than manlings.
>>166523191
will we have that as a regiment of reknown for the steam tank?
>>166638892
Meant for >>166638814
Would Chaos Dwarfs use settlements or would they be a horde?
>>166639130
Settlements.
>>166639130
Settlements, why would you think they are a horde or have I just been memed?
>>166581201
about as dangerous as the doomsday weapon that archaon used to fuck the world during the end time.
>>166595450
>kingdom game as total war
>kan ki army specialize in army demoralization
>ouki, shin, houken and other monster general eat every units like buffers, just like total war warhammer
>strategist character like ten and ri boku provide buffs and leader ship, as well as extra unique units
>mountain tribe gets rankai, the one and only monster unit in the game
>el sei is a troll option general that is super weak but is able to buff his unit to ridiculous level.
>wei army gets all the fancy seige weaponry and chariots
>chu gets goodies like war elephants and other outlandish army
>Yan gets the most unique units
FUND IT
I want to do a Hun campaign.
I have not used Europa perdita or FOTE before?
Should I use them, are they historically accurate and improve the gameplay?
>>166639282
>doomsday weapon
Which one?
Today was a good day.
damn I swear sieges in warham are even worse than napoleon. every siege is the same, never a second defense, and magic ladders are gay.
just coming from attila where they were actually enjoyable.
>>166629364
Wasn't there a similar speech in Medieval 2?
>>166638814
>And the organ gun is no better than the helblaster volley gun.
The organ gun is much better, since it fires 4 shots at the same time and not bursts, so it can reliably target cavalry and other dangerous targets
The hellblaster lands one of three volleys, and then keeps firing on the same spot, where the enemy no longer is
>>166639130
>horde
Literally why?
>>166639695
>5 hours of recorded generals speeches in Medieval 2
where did the passion go, Warhammer has maybe 5 minutes of recordings
>>166639586
the one that was created by the old one and was used by human to host the flame of their god ulric. If properly tended it can create a third warp rift that connects the other two and destroy the world.
>>166639656
>attila
>enjoyable sieges
no, they've been shit in every tw and attila was no different
>>166638275
>ywn fall for the Islamic golden age meme
feels good
Huh
So that's why Skarsnik takes prisoners
>>166639923
I thought Teclis used it to resurrect Tyrion? Or was that retconned?
>>166640003
You can't make Dwarf fat candles if the fat has all rotted away by the time you get the Dwarf back to the candle maker, better to bring them fresh.
> They range ahead of the others, galloping around the enemy battle line and cutting off any chance of escape. Expert hunters all, Marauder Horsemen are as swift as the wind and merciless as an ice storm.
Not anymore
>>166639569
pls respond
>>166639130
Settlements. They build Babylonian-esque ziggurats, the largest of which is called Zharr Naggrund,
>>166640003
>They didn't even shave his beard
Amaterus.
Do the dwarfs have any above ground castles? That would be great. Getting so tired of fighting on the exact same siege and underway map.
>>166640345
They have massive above ground fortifications, you can even seem them on some maps when fighting in the eastern badlands.
CA is just lazy and stuck them in forever underground forts whenever you besiege their settlements which have walls.
>tfw you fight off a WELF invasion only for three beasts stacks to randomly show up for the party
>>166640550
>The only faction where one-wall sieges make sense
>All of them are underground, which makes them look retarded
>>166548429
How is the legion recruitment gonna work?
AOR in the regions that the legion was originally stationed at that time, or 1 singular building with different variations like in Legions of Rome?
>>166640550
I saw them on one map and it looked awesome. Even if they just kept the same layout but made it outdoors it would be a nice change. Maybe one day..
>>166640550
>>166640345
I THINK what's supposed to be happening is that in all the Dwarf sieges the besiegers have already passed the above ground fortification and made it to the "inner walls" as such.
Doesn't make a LOT of sense but at least it's something
>>166640812
MY EYES!!
>>166640345
They do, a lot of Karaks have huge entrances which are normally heavily fortified with closing the gate as a last resort.
And I'm with you there it would be nice to have some above ground Dwarf hold maps. Drawf holds should honestly be multi-tiered maps, kind of their whole big deal is how much of a bastard it is to get into them.
But instead we get bad underground lighting and they're just boring to look at and play in.
Konrad when?
>>166640993
Literally never.
>>166640993
>wanting shitty dumpire Grimgor
no.
>>166640993
>boring vamp lord who can't into magic
They should keep expanding the vampire bloodlines, we already got Strigoi's, we could also have Necrarch
>>166639928
Atilla has some good maps but it tends to end up being a question of "do you have a spearman/pike unit, a skirmisher and some cavalry?" If so, you can win against most things the AI throws at you as they attempt to create the world's densest moshpit by throwing all of their melee units against your one braced spearman holding the checkpoint, whilst you rearcharge the blob with your cavalry unit and get hundreds of kills with it.
>>166640993
>another von carstein
That'd be dumb. I want Lahmians and Necrarchs and Sartosans.
So how are they going to implement Skaven into the campaign?
I want to kill me some rats
So Bretonnia is released 28.1?
>>166639928
The problem with Attila sieges is that big "epic" walled sieges doesn't happen. Also they have the same type of exploits as warhams, but you can just don't do them though in both games.
>>166641659
Anon.
What month did CA say Bretonnia would release in?
Try to remember
Here's a hint: It DOESN'T start with a 'J'
>>166641731
Thats the point i haven't seen what CA said, so i don't know when they come. Some one told me Bretonnia is 28.1
>>166641634
I have the feeling they're gonna skip them which would be shit. really want to see a few ratling gunners ripping into a horde of zombies
>>166641837
>Thats the point i haven't seen what CA said
Look harder:
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_Warhammer_Editions_FAQ
Bretonnia is getting released along with the Old World re-release of the base game which is coming in February.
>>166641659
>Bretonnia is shrouded in that weird dark red haze that you get in far north chaos wastes or Kislev
>playing fots
>defending in siege battle
>win
>press continue so I can run down their general
>game crashes
>>166642163
There's pretty clearly smoke coming from the castle behind him.
>>166642269
Play in directx 9 mode. It removed all battle crashed for me for some reason.
>>166642339
I like to think Bretonnia is just one giant shithole.
>want to play Attila
>choose slavs
>ARE YOU READY, TO DO YOUR DUTY FOR THE TRIBE?
fucks sake Attilas voice acting for 90% of the factions are fucking horrendous.
Why the fuck does everyone have to have a shitty american accent.
>>166642405
It looks pretty nice from the battle maps. Also Bretonnia is known for its large plains which make horsefuckery much more viable.
>>166642485
FATHER BE PRAISED, HOW CAN I HELP
>Attack a faction with who i have no diplomatic relations with
>We both have a defensive alliance with a third faction
>The third faction sides with the enemy even when i'm much higher strength ranking
>This somehow means that i betrayed them and my trustworthiness drops to "unreliable"
>>166641659
Gamestop lists the release as 28th of February, which is the hot topic about wether it's accurate or speculation
I have no idea where you got that January information, especially when the Old World announcement lists it clearly as "Somewhere in February" since December(?)
not this time you fucking cunt
>>166639698
Helblaster does more damage though.
>>166642595
28th fucking kill me.
>>166642595
I think they put 28th since that's the last possible day it could be released, most of CA's releases have been in the 19th-23rd range
This is going to be a fun late game.
>>166641848
They have said before that they really wanted to put Skaven in the first game, so they will undoubtedly be in the second
>>166642624
You think there's like a <1% chance for the game that he isn't an assassin?
>>166641848
>ratling gunners ripping into a horde of zombies
Can you seriously not hear the screeching of the multiplayer kiddies even as you type that?
Just finished Kingdom of Asturias campaign and i'm the mood for some crusading in M2TW Stainless Steel.
Does anyone know if any of the submods are worth getting or should i just stick with the regular 6.4 Stainless Steel?
Is there a more satisfying thing to do while playing as horsefuckers?
>>166642624
that motherfucker got my best spy
Gonna STAB STAB
>>166639903
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen
>>166642928
Fucking nice. I always have problem with getting a fun late game in Attila. Fucking razing and starving everywhere.
>>166640171
They're both historically accurate, but Europa Perdita really only just makes things shittier on the campaign map (more effect from disease/seasons, etc). FotE is fun in that sort of DEI-lite sense, but actually kills a lot of unit variety for most factions, since realistically, most everyone in Europe gravitated towards a pseudo-legionnaire model for their baseline soldiers. I'd honestly advise against that, and instead point you towards the workshop. Grab a bunch of "realism" mods, particularly the Improved Fertility Fix mod, and use that to compile your own personal pack instead. Will take about an hour and a half to get yourself set up, but it's honestly much more fun and interesting than playing Attila with so much of the variety stripped and the battles slowed down, even if you don't get the satisfying feeling FotE xbows give.
So, how fucked would I be if I was to play as a horde as sclavenians/slavs in general?
>>166644413
Depends on where you go
Head east and you're fucked
Head north and you're fucked
Head south or west and you are slightly less fucked
New thread:
>>166644746
>>166644746
>>166644746
>>166642485
OOR HORSES LUV BLUD
>>166599351
QUICK ROLL B4 LOCK