/twg/ - Total War General

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First for Barbarians

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IF YOU IZ TA BECOME SHOGUN
MIL'TRY RULER OF ALL JAPAN

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>>166391352
>Spanish barbarians complaining about barbarians
It's like pottery.

>>166391440
Spain is proud Romano-Punic nation, okay.

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nth for Europa Barbaorum

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G O B L I N S

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>>166391150
It's been some time, ROLLAN!

>>166391150
dwarves would never attach a goblin to a projectile in real life as it would completely mess up the trajectory. please delete this image

Holy fucking shit the Empire's infantry is shitty as fuck. How do I deal with the early game?

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>>166391957

>>166392129
Empire isn't about fighting rocks with rocks. Its the fact that you have the most options. Empire infantry is there to keep the other shit alive, not win the game.

>>166391957

WITNESS MY BEATY

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CRUSADES
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>>166392352
>GS, Halberds and even swordsmen beat 70% of enemy units
>not there to win the game

just by virtue of it being there to hold a line it's OP.

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>>166392545
CRUSADES?!

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH WOME

>>166392610
I'm not saying they are bad but its usually what the infantry are protecting/holding that wins the matches. High damage, low AP infantry can really shine gutting through a state troop formation.

Cav, handgunners, magic and artillery will do the damage you need. State troops are to make sure they get their good scenarios. Chaos are the opposite idea, everything is to support the warriors

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Our Angrund flyboys begrudging Karaz-Ankor groti

>>166392957
And my point is that the fact that their infantry can hold the line against a melee centric faction is OP. Their infatry should die fast against chaos forcing the Empire player to keep his range mobile, protected and distract using the cavalry and magic at his disposal. Currently you can sit there (which dwarfs can't do) and do everything at leisure. They also have near matchless melee flyers.

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>>166393067

>>166393410
Well the balance isn't there yet for sure. The disorder factions all kind of got the shit end of the balance stick for some reason aside from Vamps who have been CA's little pet forever.

It used to be far worse with how GS used to perform. And how damn cost effective and spammable demis were.

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>>166391150
>Total War Warhammer Old World Edition releases 28th February

So is it safe to say we're probably not getting Bretonnia before then?

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>>166392210
Get over here you little bastard!
We still have a score to settle.

>>166393846
Greenskins and Chaos are both better than stunties.

>>166393861
most likely yes
just fuck my shit up

>>166393846
certainly, but its not just about balance, it's that CA have preconcieved ideas baout what each faction should be that won't translate into total war games. It's party due to them copying 8th edition which is cancer as far as infantry goes but also part of how they balance infatry against monsters and overwhelming units. They also need to make factors like armour and unit health more important. Wth dwarfs for instance, you should never want to charge them unless you expect to be held up for a long time taking steady losses.

>>166394001
Stunties got a lot better recently, grumbling guard into Runelord/Runesmith and you win every attrition war with vigor/leadership aura, and the runes. People take them on ladder and tournaments. The WElf """"""""fix"""""""" really fucked over that match up but its still winnable for the dwarf.

I am really happy with Chaos coming back from the trash bin it was in. Greenies have always been solid but never the best.

>>166394376
Yeah, the runeblob is their only viable schtick. Greenskins can get lucky with black orcs sometimes. Chaos are more reliable against them because they can flying/shaggoth goon squad to squish the lord and heroes.

>>166394598
It ain't beard starts playing

>>166391957
Skarsnik pls

>>166394598
COME ON BABY TAKE A CHANCE WITH US

AND MEET ME AT THE BACK OF THE BLUE BUS

>>166394691
IM NO GUILDSMAN SON

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>>166394598

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9eybY9qFfY&t=133s

Dear /twg/,
today I learned that you can disband units under siege. Including lords.

I wonder how many brave generals I could have saved from death if I knew this beforehand.

Also my archlector almost soloed a WE stack, holy shit I'm glad I was able to retire him before they took the town.

>>166394460
Flying goon squad is the best way of dealing with it by picking off a smith. You can't let 2 or 3 left in the end. Greenskins could use a couple more hero/lord options (black orc leadership).

I wouldn't mind being able to upgrade blocks on infantry to larger sizes, some RoR do this as a feature but it'd be nice to be able to shove more numbers. Also a necessity for upcoming factions (Skaven).

>>166394327
Didn't 8th ed nerf everyone but infantry? I know cav and skirmishers got a little weaker IIRC

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Axe throwers are pretty strong

>>166394598
>And thats when Dawi Bardin realised his grudges will never be settled.

>>166395753
Smart... for a dwarf.

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What the fuck is this, some gobbo just assassinated Grombrindal and I had no legendary lords to replace him with

My army just fucking vanished and apparently the non-existant Thorgrim will take another 4294967259 turns to recover

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>>166396131
Just give up now stunties.

>>166396131
Now that's some mighty stabbin' right there.

DEY WONT FEEL A THING

WHICH IS A PITY

HALF THE FUCKING MAP DECLARED WAR ON ME ALL OF A SUDDEN

INCLUDING LONG TIME ALLIES

AND I GOT EVERY SINGLE NAP CANCELLED

WHAT THE FUCK

>>166397276
What game?

Did you colonize with your only big army?

What's your rep?

>king has led the same army for 55 years and won 66 battles with them

what a fucking animal

>>166396131
I think it will come back with the lord.

>>166397468
Warhammer, playing as Empire.

I literally have no idea what it was, I didn't disolve any particularly strong armies, just some smaller patrol one.

Then suddenly
>Dwarves have neded their nat with you
>Kislev has ended their trade with you
>Ostermark has ended their nat with you
>Vampire Counts has declared war on you
>Your allies refused to help you (except Middenland, thanks Boris)
>Karak Hirn has declared war on you
>Wood Elves has declared war on you
>Ostermark has declared war on you
>Karak Fuck Your Mother has declared war on you

What the FUCK. Not even 20 turns before they were all begging for non aggrestion treaties.

>>166397829
Means you are untrustworthy. Maybe you betrayed someone

>>166398017
>The ghost of Marienburg chuckles in the distance

>>166398017
I don't even know how it happened. I've been trying my hardest to not break any treaties of any kind. Was it because two of my allies declared war on each other?

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>Top Knotz declare war for literally no reason
>Send THREE (3) fucking doomstacks on turn fucking 7
>This is all that remains by the end
Everything that isn't standing in front of this fucking camera is dead. What a bloodbath. Armbreaker is a git and probably a gobbo too. Wuurzag and Spleenrippa ok not Armbreaker and gobbos. Praise Gork (and Mork).

>>166398187
God damn it, it was my allies declaring war on Marienburg, who was my vassal, isn't it? I entered war on their side then immediately revasalized Marienburg so I wouldn't have to deal with that shit every time. Did that actually lower my trustworthiness? Fuck this.

Why did I fucking vasalize Marienburg, I should have held Gorssel myself and stop overcomplicating it.

>>166395485
>didn't 8th nerf everyone but infantry

exactly, which is why CA haven't got infantry balanced. The horde rule was a massive upgrade for infantry and monsters got thunderstomp to preserve them as anti-infantry since having 6+ attacks in stats is pretty overwhelming in the combat phase. Still horde was an overpowered way of making cheap shitty infantry durable and capable of leeching enemy units.

>>166398491
Sounds about right, with Empire its usually something with Marienburg since people always want the money from the port.

>>166398551
I wouldn't mind some hordes being more swampy with their basic main-line infantry. Greenskin (not black orc spam), Beastmen, and Chaos Marauders are low tier armies that are useless due to the under performance of their core units relying so heavily on crutches since around 70% of the army will not do anything aside from dying.

Gors, Marauders, boyz, etc. should die, but they should do a lot more damage than they do and make a contribution that you actually have to think about and plan for.

I'm not sure what the answer is but hordes need something like 8th ed to help them out in TWW, Aspiring Champs were a good start and marauder builds were able to do something for the first time.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831679533

Reminder to culturally enrich this general with my mod.

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>>166398481
This is why the Badlands need the Wood Elfs.
The orcs are just savage and killing each other.

I propose Durthu should gather an army and head into the Badlands.

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>February 28, 2017

Oh come the fuck on. Well, guess I'll be taking a break until then.

>>166400426
Durthu will invade everywhere eventually. Fuck bastards always take over half the planet before I smack them down when I play orcs.

>>166400681
Whats the sauce on that?

>>166400762
that was the given release date for the old world addition when it was originally announced, anon is implying that we won't get brettonia until old world edition is launched, which seems likely based on CA's silence

>bought civ vi when it came out
>only 56 hours played on it
>bought shogun 2 during winter sale
>almost 100 hours played on it

>>166400889
On all the official channels I see FEB 2017, which yes that was thrown out there when that was announced. But where did the 28 come from.

>>166401080
If you do a google 'shopping' search for the old world edition most store sites are giving the release as the 28th.

>>166401080

Friend of mine manages a Gamestop, said street date is the 28th, they'll be getting them in the next ~3 weeks.

Why CA decided to hold Bretonnia hostage for this is beyond me. What a stupid fucking idea.

>>166400681
>cut off the grave guard looking back

Bad cover.

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>>166400681

Anyone up for a wood elf mod just like my empire one?

>>166401702
>game is about bretonnia being launched
>wanting a photobombing skelly.

>>166401949
But muh Mousillon

>>166402047
it will come soon.

Here's the plan.

Instead of building wide to survive as the woodelves. You can build tall for more building slots.

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>>166401689
Ok, thanks. Last Tuesday possible which is kind of to be expected with a major release honestly.

Holding Brets back for that release make sense because it builds hype for the release, also that means the Bret patch and the OW balance patch is the same.

It will be fun to read through what is going into this patch.

>>166395485
>Skaven having more than 120 units on large

Yeah I don't think so retard

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>>166396131
>turns until available: 4294967259

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Listen now, let me tell you about Saladin.

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>>166402495
A Skaven can shove 100 dudes in a block for less than a vampire lord in a TT game. If the numbers game still sucks that entire faction will be shit and not work.

Same reason beastmen don't work now and Greenies rely on black orc crutches.

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Is there any attila mod that turns the "Nordic Heavy Marauder" unit into a land unit? I like the way the unit looks, the Viking Raiders look like shit compared to it.

>>166401949
The way I see it, it could just add more effects to the already existing buildings

>muh bretonnia

who GIVES a fuck about Empire 2: Electric Boogaloo feat. more Knights and worstelf cuckry

where are the god damn best elves

>>166403919
>wanting mary sue elves

fuck off

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Oh damn son this building is legit

>>166402495
>>Skaven having more than 120 units on large
>Yeah I don't think so retard
why is this a bad thing for skaven?

>>166403919
WHERE IS NAGASH

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>>166400681
Any idea how much it's going to cost and will it include all the DLC?

>>166404236
Only FLCs are included

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>>166404030
>Rib Peaks

Today I have learned a very valuable lesson. Alliances suck major dick. Your allies WILL declare war on each other and WILL make you untrustworthy, which will fuck up your diplomacy towards everyone, no matter what.

>>166404473
Just like having friends in real life, huh?

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>>166404358
I see.

>>166404636
WAIT THERE'S MORE

and an exclusive novella, ‘The Prince of Altdorf’ by Total War Writer Andy Hall.

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Alright folks, rate my kingdom

Operation: WE wuz a massive success, and we are now rolling in money after consolidating the former egyptian territories, with aegyptos itself making us over 13k per turn even with corruption at around 60%. Currently working on taking over the rest of asia minor.

Baktria, the 2 remaining steppe factions, and knossos are all satrapies, meaning that the east is locked down, and the mediterranean is safe thanks to the cretans + my military alliance with the hellenic league. (unfortunately I can't levy cretan archers in dei, thinking about getting a submod to allow it but i don't know how badly it screws up the reforms)

As for trade I'm currently sending a fleet out towards spain/up to britain to look for trading partners, hopefully rome hasn't blobbed up too badly in barbarland

My faction leader who has overseen this massive expansion is an 80 year old king who has served with his men in the frontlines for almost 60 years, fighting on foot in a phalanx in 3 different continents

>>166403219
weaker units aren't just there for the one on one.

The good thing about weaker low leadership troops is that even if they break they'll probably rally with 50% of their health left.

increases their mobility and adds a wave mechanic of getting several charges in especially if you do have a dependible core to hold the enemy main line in place.

after playing skarsniks campaign and some online battles i have new respect for goblin units.

>>166405457
>not wanting Rome to be a giant blob so there is any challenge at all in the end game

I once saw somewhere that you could attack a tribe you awakened as chaos to make them vassals and get some income, is it still possible? Is there any downside?

>wake up
>still no MKTW campaign

>>166405028
Is that the same author who wrote that awful novel that came with rome 2?

>>166406329
he didn't work for ca then

>>166405646
If a unit is routing its not doing anything for you. That unit isn't fighting in the mosh pit, its not flanking your enemy, its not contributing. When your unit routes I now have another resource to shore up another front of the fight and if I have a cheap fast attacker they get free kills as your units as they just get eaten. And with those armies there is no "dependable core" those guys running away in the first 3 minutes were that core.

Weaker units are to hold shit down as long as they can for the big boyz to do the smashing. But if they can't achieve good combat with another low-tier unit, they won't have a prayer holding for long against something scarier long enough to pay off.

Should they do fantastic, no, but they need to do their job better than the current state.

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>>166396131
GOBLIN'D

>>166405457

What mod is that?

>>166406742
Dei

>>166406618
>you will never be a GOBBO

Feels bad dudes

>>166405457
>allowing baktria to live

They're just gonna stab you in the back.

>>166407018
>wanting to be the most widely regarded as useless and expendable creature since zombies
why

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HAHA!!
I'VE SEEN ENOUGH!!

>>166407520

aka. "We will only resume working on summer"

kek, never ever

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>>166407520
>So yeah, September 2017.
>December maybe

>>166406571
If a unit is unengaged in the late game it adds ton of flexibility to the engagement.

Also goblins are meant to die early on you have them as missile shields and then meat shields while you mix them in with black orcs so that the enemy targets the goblins and not the black orcs.

Eventually the goblins flee combat and the black orcs keep the fight together,

Now the goblins rally and are now free to harass the back lines and go for a rear charge.

If you don't understand how a routing and rally can be a good thing then you're not a master of strategy.

I wouldn't just use goblins, but I recognize their strengths.

>>166406571
>no "dependable core" those guys running away in the first 3 minutes were that core.

Black orks, Giant Spiders. etc.

>>166407145
Because i want to STAB

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>>166405705
I'm more hoping there are enough small factions left for me to sell goods to

>>166407130
nah, I literally saved them from the seleucid satrap gang-bang that is 1.2, plus I have defended them on multiple occasions when the saka (who i had nap/trade with) kept declaring war on them. In exchange for keeping them alive and subjugated I get ~3000gpt that is unaffected by corruption in the form of tribute/trade

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>>166408360
>Confident / Unreliable

>>166408360
>Confident/Unreliable

They're going to fuck you. Never trust a Greek.

Damn how have I not heard of this guy until now?

>Kills a gallic king in single combat during battle
>One of the only romans to win the spolia opima
>Btfos Syracusans during 2nd Punic War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Claudius_Marcellus

>Ignoring the +230 relations

Its not like this is shogun 2

>>166409740

meant for
>>166408863
>>166409605

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I'm thinking of applying for the Gunnery School of Nuln.

I kinda want to be a Helstorm rocket operator.

>>166410215
>imperial gunnery school

Anon, I...

I don't know how to tell you this.

Are your personal effects in order? Did you tell your wife and children that you loved them very much before you applied for a position?

>>166410215
Can't always get what you want, free company.

>>166410215
DAT BULGE

>>166410215
trust me kid - you want to man a hellblaster. Not only is it infinitely cooler than anything else the empire or even the dwarfs has, it never ever gets used so you don't even have to worry about getting killed in action.

>>166411028
I laughed at that last bit.

helblaster sounds fucking cool when it fires.

>>166411028
Isn't a helblaster pretty much just like a puckle gun?
How are you supposed to use those things, anyway?

>>166391796
>Europa Barbaorum action brief
wtf is this real?

>>166410439

>tfw too intelligent to be a frontline grunt

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>>166411028
>>166411445

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>>166411445
>tfw too intelligent to ever see use

>>166404236

Full price $60 USD, only FDLC included. You also get some novella called the Prince of Altdorf.

It's really just an excuse to re-launch the game, get it's name back out there.

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I haven't been here since Rome 2.


Has Creative Assembly got a new Total war in production? One that isn't Warhammer DLC?

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is this any good ?

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What kind of rumor could possibly justify spending 257k to quell? This guy is a fucking legend - he is responsible for ethiopia growing from one shithole city in the desert to now being the largest empire the world has ever seen - and unlike alexander he didn't have his daddy pre-assemble an army for him. For fucks sake this guy conquered half the known world without even getting on a horse once! Now he gets back to his capital to spend his last remaining days with his family and some chucklefuck decides to launch history's first smear campaign, claiming that he likes to get fucked by elephants or some other ridiculous lie.

60 years of military service, and this is how they repay you

>>166412429
Yes, an announced historical title. It is supposed to be a time period they haven't done before, but nobody knows what exactly

>>166412625
>historical title

Mild hype.

Rolling for 30 years war, shit would be cash

>>166403316
Thank

>>166412506

>Spartans in late antiquity
>Lorica segmentata in late antiquity

>>166412625
>It is supposed to be a time period they haven't done before, but nobody knows what exactly
what could that even be ? ww1 or ww2 right, they have done everything else
i'm not too hyped for it t b h but we'll see

>>166413110
>ww1 or ww2 right

Nope.

>>166413005
you know any good big overhaul mods for attila ?

>>166412506
It's a silly fun mod. The worst thing about it is that it is in beta. Not enough stuff.

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

They do anything official for Bretonnia yet?

>>166413234

Fall of the Eagles

Its not complete yet tho, the nordic factions still need work

>>166413110
Could me many things. Rise of Islam, Biblical times, Victorian era, 30 years war, etc...
Hell it could even be something in China.

>>166413110
>ww1 or ww2

I really, really hate this meme. Sega already has a WW2 strategy game, CoH, and the idea of a total war game set in modern times makes no fucking sense.

>>166413370
Nope, nothing new since the festag stuff

What's the best mod that makes Empire not a bug-addled mess?

>>166414063
Napoleon Total War

>>166414063
Napoleon

>>166413110
Total war 10000BC

Sabertooth cavalry confirmed already

>>166394598
>War, Dawi
>It's just a grudge away

Starts playing.

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>>166414036
Fuck

>>166414213
>>166414243
Yeah but that makes you feel like you're on a set path. Empire makes you feel like you can do whatever you please.

>>166413110
They haven't done the early modern era, right?
You know, English civil war, 30 year war kind of thing.

It would be interesting because it had canon, cavalry and infantry that actually fight with pikes still.

>>166413110
If it's one of the ww, how are planes gonna work in the battle?

>>166414628
That's not even the biggest problem with it's going to keep looking like total war.

>>166414628
Spells.

>>166414628
I would imagine like naval bombardment in FOTS.
WW1 is probably doable, but WW2 would be breaking that mould entirely. I don't think WW2 would be easily possible.

Anyone remember Thera? What a cool mod. I was daydreaming at work today about making something similar in Warscape. Would that be cool or has Warhammer taken the fantasy mantle and there'd be no demand for it?

>>166394598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh_FGfWhwEs

>>166393863
Gausser is probably the most cucked of all current elector counts.

Cucked by elves.
Cucked by Marienburgers.
Cucked by the Grand Patriarch.
And, of course, cucked by Norscans (although not as bad as Ostland was).

Why are Ashigaru so OP in spear wall?

Is there even any need to get expensive units when these guys can hold against almost anything.

>>166415878
The spear wall throws the enemy's charge bonus back at them.

>>166415209
Warhammer is a pile of minimal-effort shit. Fanboys get so excited over seeing their favorite factions or units or characters they don't realize there's no fucking depth to the game at all. CA even managed to exclude and then make people pay for whole chunks of factions they already bought in the base game.

We got a stripped down shell of a game with a fantasy skin taped to it.

Good luck modifying the map though.

>>166411732
>re-launch the game, get it's name back out there

for what purpose? shit was in steams 10 highest grossing titles of 2016. how much is a fucking physical relaunch going to help them?

>>166416072

Same thing with Rome 2's Emperor Edition and all those "Game of the Year" editions you see everywhere

>>166416072
It's probably to trick all the 'I'm waiting for the GOTY edition to buy it' retards who don't seem to understand that you can just get the game without purchasing any DLC

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>Really like Chaos roster.
>Really dislike horde mechanics.

Can someone redpill me on naval units of attila? What's the point of them being so good at land if i'm almost never able to use them?

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>>166416750
>he doesn't disembark his navel units

>>166416935
But i mostly fight land battles lad, how am i supposed to take my Nordic Marauders to the middle of France if the game does not allow these units to move through rivers or land?

>>166416935
Or his naval units.

>>166416072

It resets the bad reviews on Steam

>>166413110
>~300BC-800AD
Covered by Rome, Rome 2, Attila, and expansions.

>800AD-1066AD
Blank space, although extremely unlikely after R2 and Attila.

>1066AD-1500AD
Covered by Medieval 1&2.

>1500AD-1700AD
Covered by Shogun 2. Still, highly likely to be the setting for the new game in the European theater.

>1700AD-1815AD
Covered by Empire and Napoleon.

>1815AD-1860AD
Not covered, but too similar to previous titles to really warrant a new game.

>1860AD onwards
Second probable time period for a Victorian total war with steady modernization, possibly up to the early 20th century.

>>166417249
I'm drunk and I fucked up. 1860 was supposed to say FotS with ~1870 onwards being the final category.

This is strictly based on the "time period not covered before" comment; the only two options are 16th century and late 19th century.

>>166416935
a lot of them literally can't board its hilarious

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Fuck Pootrokles and fuck greek people

>>166417249
>800AD-1066AD
>Blank space
Viking Invasion

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>>166417938

>>166416004
Modifying the map is impossible or at the very least not worth the effort. I figure the standard Attila map will accommodate a mix of real world and fantasy factions.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>166418415
Eventually we just have to have patience.

>>166403919

If the DLC/Expansion datamining is as accurate as it has been High elves will probably be here in a few months. Im wondering if they'll re add sea battles in the first big expansion

>>166404095
NAGASH IS WEAK

>>166417105

You're not supposed to use them on land.

You might've noticed there's quite a bit of a long coastline situation going on in europe and the Mediterranean.

>>166420164
Yes, i noticed but i just with i could use the Danish Chosen Marauders on land, i mean, it's their only unique unit for fuck sake. Same with the royal saxon marines.

>>166420421
>Royal Saxon Marines

sounds like some radious mod bullshit ngl

>>166420612
They're in vanilla actually, the last saxon unit to be unlocked via tech, it can destroy most land units fairly easy.

>>166420421


You're going about it wrong. You want good unique units on land because you prefer land battles(what with TW titles history I completely get).

The Danes deal is they got these uber good naval infantry that you're supposed to sail around looting mad cash from the rich factions in the south that even if they're way bigger than you can't really retaliate to your raids cause you're so far away and isolated.

>>166416680
you know that the "Old World Edition" has none (0) of the DLC included, right?

It's the exact same game repackaged with a book

>>166420421
you are supposed to take your doomfleets and go fuck up enemy coastal settlements for mad dosh.

Take a couple artillery ships to take out towers, some bow ships to meme on the ai with their infinite ammo, and some melee ships to skullfuck the enemy garrison on land, and you can make some sweet money doing so.

The only problem is that your units will get brutalized by enemy garrison scout cav because of the impact damage meme

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>>166410647
>whip out dick
>swab and prime for ignition
>aim and prepare to fire
>roll for misfire
>dick explodes, taking out legs and half of Company C

>>166416736
You mean

>really bad at horde mechanics

You were probably one of the ones complaining WELFs were underpowered when they were first released

>>166421289

>"If you don't enjoy suicide inducing tedium then you must be bad at video games"

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>romans hit imperial reforms
>have seemingly blobbed up into all of gaul

final boss confirmed

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What sea? What ships? The fuck is going on here

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i fucking hate elves.

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>>166421686
and the same year, my faction leader since the beginning of the campaign passes in his sleep in the capital at age 84

>>166421759
just a random flavor event, because CA is too lazy to add actual naval content. See also: Jabberslythe attack

>>166421889

Alliances don't matter for relation modifiers Anon.

Just because they're allied with Angrund doesn't mean they can't have a relation score with them that's below zero.

They start out as allies so it's not like they ever need to be good friends for the alliance to exist

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orcs pls go

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>>166421686
>in imperial era
>STILL using camillan units

what

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>>166422450
pls

>>166421759
You have Barak Varr. Thats a dwarf harbor. So pirates.

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How do I fuck up other families besides

-ASSasination
-rumors
-prevent their adoption
-adopt one of their members

>>166423407
Make them generals and then send them on a suicide mission.

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>>166414482
>Occasionally comes back to life to tell the rabid frothing peasants to shut up and calm the hell down.
>this is canon.

>>166423667
And what if my family's generals are very successful?

>>166417249
They could do something like India total war, or Africa or some shit.

Like just throw everyone off.
>Three kingdoms total war
>Any of early china's conflicts

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never forget

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>this week wasn't the week

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>this camel highway

>>166413110
Total War: Cavemans
>use spears and shit
>throw rocks
>make fire
>invent useful rock tools like an axe or an ass-scratcher
>dinosaurs fucking everywhere
>dinosaur cavalry
>obsidian sword cavemans RoR DLC 9.99 USD
>Mastodon Unit packs
>Unlock Gigantoplethicus FLC after 5,000,000 sales
>play as blue dinosaurs for 25.00 USD + tip
>play as green dinosaurs for another 25.00 USD + gratuity
>Dinoblood + other special effects 4.99 USD
>p.s. the DLC will literally NEVER go on sale

>>166404030

That plus + Grombrindals blue tree +3 to all recruited units = 3 gold chevrons on all artillery.

Dwarf campaign is best campaign.

>>166425137
>Dinosaurs and cavemen

Obligatory
> (you)

>>166424429
i-isn't the news not due until tomorrow?

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>>166425369
>he doesn't enjoy flintstonepunk

>>166425137
Dinosaur Cavalry (Dismounted)

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>>166425137
>>obsidian sword cavemans RoR DLC 9.99 USD
>>Mastodon Unit packs
>>Unlock Gigantoplethicus FLC after 5,000,000 sales
>>play as blue dinosaurs for 25.00 USD + tip
>>play as green dinosaurs for another 25.00 USD + gratuity
>>Dinoblood + other special effects 4.99 USD
>>p.s. the DLC will literally NEVER go on sale

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>>166425845

I am completely incapable of making my own decisions, someone post the Attila roll chart.

Total War: Race war when?

>>166425137
>bitching about the DLC when we got the Guy With Wheel lord pack for free

CA just can't win with you guys. I bet you also left bad reviews despite having over 500 hours played.

>>166426115
Mastodon Obsidian Cataphract Archers

>>166426158
You will play Tanukhids.

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>>166426158
Found it myself
I don't own meme vikings so rerolling

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Pyrrhic victory I had a couple days ago fighting for control of southern greece

my cav got decimated fighting on rough terrain plus the arab cav weren't used to the unfamilar territory

all 300 of them routed with heavy casualties, had the remaining infantry (around 2200) hold firm against the rocks

macedonians pushed in hard in the center, left held fine, right side needed multiple counterattacks, very brutal fight

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anybody have night/dark pics with point light sources?

>>166426812
Praise Tengri

>>166406129
>wake up
There's your problem right there.

>>166414036
WW1 would work just fine you fucking knob.

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>it's a chaos is actually a threat this time episode

>>166427009
ROMA INVICTA

>>166417249
>1815AD-1860AD
>1860AD onwards

My personal hope is it'll start around 1850. I know FoTS takes place around this time but I don't think the 'never seen before' is going to be that hard and fast of a rule for them. Especially considering that Shogun 2 is very narrow in focus and that the unknown historical title is going to be, according them, very ambitious in scope.

But 1850 - 1910 is really interesting time in world history.
>Birth of Communism
>Rise of USA as a global power; manifest destiny
>US Civil War
>Crimean War
>European Imperialism in Africa/India/China
>Japan emerging on the world stage
>First modern Olympic games
>Suez Canal
>Motion pictures, light bulbs, the telegraph, propagation of rail travel

Among a lot of other shit. It be great period to cover, but the scope would need to be huge.

Garamantians aren't very fun to play.

>>166429185
what's with the horde growth bonuses for them anyway? is that a glitch or am i missing something?

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>>166428706
>It's a "chaos is actually a threat this time" episode with Wood Elf cameo becoming permanent.

>>166429025
Don't give the olympic garbage any attention.

>>166429025

I still don't see how this works, line infantry became obsolete by the latter quarter of the 19th century. Unless CA is going to go balls out of control and wildly change the formula this wont happen. 1870 is the absolute latest the series can go without become absurd.

>>166429313
I don't know. I don't see an option to become a horde.

>>166423821
Raise a new army of just enemy family generals unit and have them go attack an enemy. Alternatively replace one of your generals and suicide the enemy family general in an easy battle.

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>tfw you focus so much on prosperity and economy you fail to realize France has been having a field day on Europe

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>>166431943

is there a mod to autoresolve quest battles yet? getting real tired of having to replay this shit

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>>166431943
SAVE THE PRUSSIANS

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>>166431943

>>166421654
>It's tedious because I'm stupid

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>ally with wood elves
>they go about settling provinces you're trying to inhabit

>>166431943
Fucking Perfidious Albion

>>166438378
never trust elves.

The worst bit. is that their trade post is useless as fuck.

/r/ing Gonna Stab

Can a lore fag gimmie a summary of the border princes? From what i understand theyre self governing states made from mercenary bands and warlords. Basically a warhammer wild west town yes or no?

>>166438538
>>166402540

>>166407145
Because I'll get to hang out with SKARSNIK, WARLORD UV EIGHT PEAKS

>>166439443
Pretty much. That area of the world is so overrun with big nasties and orcs that towns get wiped out and resettled all the time, and no unified nation state can really form. though they needed to for the game of course

>>166439443
Yes. Though less wild west and more backwater Crusader states. Lords with a castle somewhere where land value is literally dirt. Just so they can rule something. The land isn't at all desirable and nobody makes a real effort to do anything beyond survive.

>>166440042
The gobbos call it the city of pillars. Please do not use stuntiespeak.

>>166440598
And Skarsnik literally calls himself "Skarsnik, Warlord uv Eight Peaks" in game. I will not disrespect him and his self-appointed title by calling him "Skarsnik, Warlord of the city of pillars".

>>166439443
lots of small independent towns lots of freemen and discredited nobles and retainers. Lots of ruins of past civilizations. some older. than others a lot more recent.

>>166440598


more like city of shit pillars lmeo

>>166440229
>>166440503
sorry for more ignorant questions but were they in the tabletop game or just a lore footnote?

and can you see them being added to the game as playable or do you suspect theyll just remain empire knockoffs for the series?

>>166440962
There were only the army books of the main 15 factions.
No humans but Empire and Bretonnia had army books.

There was a Dogs of War supplement which featured mercenary units from Tilea and Estalia though. And I think Kislev has some really old rules from a supplement.
So lore footnote pretty much.

Kislev has the most chance of being playable by far.
Estalia have conquistadors in Lustria so they're next in importance.
Tilea is just mercenaries and Inquisitors.
Border Princes are literally who?

Just killed Rotgut, how long are the AI's lords out for? I want to confederate with them and I want Rotgut to be my bitch.

>>166441178
Don't forget Araby!

>>166441414
PARDON ME.
ARABAY WAS CRUSADED AGAINST BY THE HUMANS NORTH OF IT A FEW TIMES.
I'M NOT SURE FOR WHAT REASON THOUGH.
THE RED DUKE GOT VAMPIRISM WHEN HE ALMOST DIED DOWN THERE I THINK.

ALSO THEY'RE STILL TECHNICALLY HUMAN.
AND THEY'RE THE BEST FACTION
THEY'RE
THE
KANGZ

>>166441681
PARDON ME, THIS POST WAS INTENDED TO WRAP UP THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE OTHER HUMAN FACTIONS.
THERE WAS MEANT TO BE A BREAK BETWEEN DESCRIBING SEPERATE FACTIONS, NOT TO IMPLY THOSE IN ARABAY ARE THE KANGZ.

>>166441681
>K*NGZ

Sultans, you kafir

>>166441681

Araby invaded Estalia and did shit so gruesome that even made Bretonnian knights feel bad for their peasants. So Bretonnia got all chivalrous up in that ass

>>166441806
PARDON ME, MY EXPLANATION WAS TOO LATE. MY MOST SINCERE APOLOGIES.

>>166441960
Alright, fair enough. What's the schtick to drive them to unwarranted aggression and brutality?
They're not (at least the majority) not chaos worshipers as far as I remember. I want to say they're lead by generically evil wizards. That sounds stereotypical enough for GW to have written.

>>166442068

Evil sultan got uppity. The Empire also got involved in removing kebab, these conflicts were actually the origin of the Knights Panther, which are probably going to show up sometime in the future.

here's a wiki for it, but it's been so long I don't remember if everything is correct.

http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Crusade_Against_Araby

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Oh
My
Fuck

I owe these barbarians nothing, and I'll be removing myself from an entrenched and fortified position if I deem to help them.

But can I let the Hun menace claim yet another city? Sack another town? Make more orphans? Break more families?

Wat do /twg/?

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>>166442672
Flip a coin, drink some wine.

>>166440962
they're used as settings in some novels.

Honestly in the game the border princes shouldn't even be unified. they should all be their own separate mini state. since essentially every town is roughly independent.

I doubt they'd be added. but i'd be interested if they did something with the southern states.

>>166442672
Fight the Huns, be the army of justice
Then make them help you out afterwards

>>166442324
>Sultan Jaffar
I knew there was a massive stereotype in there somewhere.
Skaven manipulation is decent enough of a reason I suppose.
iirc the Skaven have a fairly large presence there.

>>166442832
Now I want an MMO like Haven & Hearth. Where you start from literally nothing and try to build a community. Around you lies the ruins of all who had failed before you.

It practically is just H&H already. You just replace the hordes of marauding Russians with Orcs/Skaven/Independent Vampires/Other settlements/Norscan raiders.

>>166442672
Remove invaders

If not you then who?

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>>166442838
Fuck it, the urge to plant and save is what separates us from the Devil Dogs.
Heaven or Hell, let's rock.

>>166391957
BAD VLAD YES

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Here's the arabian army from a larger scale wargame that they had briefly.

things to note
>Camel gunner
>Armored elephant with massive howdah.
>camel cavalry
>Magic carpet air skirmishers.

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>>166443196
Here's our vitriolic allies token force.
The long winter nights guarding against an approaching nightmare have taken their toll.

Were we not to intervene, they wouldn't stand a Seleucid chance.

>>166410215
>tfw to intelligent to attend the gun school of nulnery and conscript myself to be a spearman instead

>>166391957
lets see

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>>166443505
Why does nothing this fun happen whenever I play?

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>>166443505
And an aerial view as well, there are three Hun hordes coming. If my ally can hold the center for a significant amount of time, then I can flank the Horselords and drive them from the ice.

Otherwise the battle could turn into an incredibly destructive and disastrous chaos, wherein none of my armies can meaningfully cooperate and sync together, then we are ground beneath the snow and arrow.

>>166443591
You rolled well, Hitler.

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>>166443615
You either play on easy, or play too successfully my mang.
There are advantages to being a shitter like me.

>>166443749
The one advantage this insignificant German tribe has, aside from their righteous Christianity, is the fact that almost all their infantry are Germanic Spearmasters.

No better counter to what is coming. Though they cannot counter it alone.

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>>166444042
Well.
Here we go.

>>166444042
I play on VH/N. I play fairly conservatively, but not really successfully. I'll savescum to avoid a Varg stack that teleported out of nowhere to raze six settlements they shouldn't even know exist but otherwise take my losses.
And I just don't come up to cool scenarios like that.

>>166444161
well you out flanked him at least.

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>>166444243
Luckily for us, we march in only from one corner, I feared a three way split that would be an absolute hell to micro.

Meanwhile our Barbarian allies are making a few... Challenging decisions.

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>>166444461
Germans are not known for successful defenses, and so when the enemy marches to them, they are keen to march right against them.

A few hopelessly outnumbered horse skirmishers try to catch and counter the early volleys of horse archer shitter tactics. Meanwhile, the Spearmasters are not keen at all about hiding behind those walls.

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>>166444609
Spearmasters charge against the Hunnic First Wave Lancers, defiant and furious despite living off of snow and faith for the entire season.

Lancers don't pull off their charge, they get pulled into a brawl.

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>>166444732
My ally a baka

>>166445327
They don't realize that they aren't alone. They're throwing their lives away. They need hope if they are to preserve themselves.

>>166445327
Help them anyways their fortification will be useful. You could use those towers.

>>166444235
>normal

There's youe problem

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>>166445496
>>166445536
I'll need to hurry, they are so outmatched and it is only getting

>>166445708
Has zero effect on waddling into battles like these, only how the battles go.

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>>166445737
worse.

>>166413110
3 Kingdoms or Han dynasty Total War

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>>166445830
It's hilarious, due to some glitch in my mod list, I often end up with enemy generals with literally only one unit, but enough health to be able to tank archer volleys and take 50 heavy troopers all by themselves.

Now, adding to the whole cinematic story of the thing, my allies desperate blood covered general 1v1's theirs.

Even a Barbarian dreams of home, but his was razed three provinces away. Now, as everything goes dire, and one of the Devil's leaders aims for his head, only here can he feel any form of peace.

>>166445991
>It's hilarious, due to some glitch in my mod list, I often end up with enemy generals with literally only one unit, but enough health to be able to tank archer volleys and take 50 heavy troopers all by themselves.

Ah so that's how they made heroes in total war warhammer

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>>166446132
>>166445991
Place your bets /twg/
Chances are if anyone lives it will be this guy.

If he can slay their general. Here and now.

>>166446263
I'm betting on the hun

>>166443415
I do hope they add these guys as a playable faction. I wouldn't even care if they had a limited rooster I just want to play as some Kushan looking mother fuckers.

>>166445769
You take fewer losses and lose fewer battles so it ends up being a steamroll.

>>166446263
Kill the filthy hun

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>>166446332
ROGUE ARROW FUCKING FLOORS HUN
GG NO BLOWS. TEAMKILLING FUCKTARDS.
LIVE BY THE BOW. DIE BY THE ARROW.

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>>166446352
in a more recent game dreadfleet they gave araby a ship

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>>166446416
The arrow fire meant for him, takes their leader. The Huns appetite for destruction eat their own.

But not without taking a few friends first.

>>166446416
Aw that's the gayest way for that to end.

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>>166446520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFi7bWkyRpA

>>166446530
Some monsters don't deserve a duel.
Hoisted by their own petard, die by your own method.
Arrows care not where they land.

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>>166446716
With the death of their Leader, the Hun filth are halted in their first advance by the distraction of one man. Dismayed by how their reckless actions have caused unintended consequences.

Today, I will remind them.

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>>166446886
>so long as one man stands against you...

>>166446378
Still does not account for situations such as these, which could be the opening engagement.

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>>166447009
>You cannot win.
I'm so in love with this scene, I am reluctant to unpause and actually fight the battle.
mfw Rome about to go full Rohan

>>166447191
FORTH EORLINGAS!

>>166447191
>tfw fantasy can never be this interesting

keep up the good work my man

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>>166447343

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>>166447282
>>166447343
This picture shows a thousand horsemen running away to regroup from the one man.

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>>166447579
WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO LIVE FOREVER?

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>>166447689
>Guard your women and children well,
>Send these bastards back to hell
>We'll teach them the ways of war, they won't come here any more
>Use your shield and use your head
>Fight 'til every one is dead
>Raise the flag up to the sky,
>How many of them can we make die?

>>166446437
Now we just need to hope CA will add in naval battles.

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>>166447808
>PICK YOURSELVES OFF THE GROUND
>HURRY BACK
>TELL YOUR LEADER
>YOU'LL NEED MORE MEN

>>166447912
They left, leaving three behind to make sure the job was done.