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>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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Why is this general so selfish with (You)s?
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world would be better off if all people were dead

@166177080
Kill yourself, my man
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silly millenials think they're entitled to (You)s
if you want them, earn them
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We should be able to buy currency with real money
This would destroy RMTs.

EVE and WoW have already implemented it successfully
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>paying ms to play a free console game that you paid GGG for the privilege of supporting
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I work my ass off for each and every (You). Fucking baby boomers had a nice responsive thread handed to them on a silver platter, and thread sizes were way smaller so you had to get fewer per thread to support a family. I work 3 generals and I can't even get enough (You)s to keep myself afloat alone.
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>>166177171
You shouldn't be able to buy currency, but you should be able to buy and trade MTX items.
That's how ya do it
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>>166177250
You realize you can reply to yourself for a free (You), right...?
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>>166177307
>Spending a (You)
>Getting 1 (You) in return
still (You) neutral
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You can give yourself a couple (You)s, but everyone knows if you do it too much the samefag police will come after you, and then you have to clear your cookies so you can fake proof that you're not samefagging, and that's a whole thread of farming out the window.
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I don't give (You)s to:

catshitters
frogshitters
/r9k/ rejects
discordtards
streamers fanboys

everyone else is generally okay if they're being a faggot
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>buying all your tabs and shit again on xbox
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(You) circulation is what keeps the economy running. People not spending their (You)s leads to depreciation until you end up in a depression like this, where everyone is just looking out for themselves. Prices skyrocket, unemployment goes through the roof, it's all over.

Stagflation is a real threat, and trickle-down economics doesn't fix it. Only (You) can solve this drought we're going through.
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it's a doggy dog world out there what can I say
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I honestly have no (you)s to spend. I spend all day here working and I have barely anything to show for it. I need to keep what (you)s I have for emergencies only.
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(You) farmers are a diamond dozen.
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@166177515
(You)
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That's just like putting a quarter in a vending machine then ripping it out. Not cool man.
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What's an acceptable ES to have to survive one shots and leech it back in a second? No curses btw
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(You) need about 15k to tank some of the shit in shaper
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game feels bland, every build capable of "end game" is the same, theres basically 2-3 choices.

Also some skills do 3x the damage of other skills in the same sockets forcing you to play builds you dont' want to.
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basically you're a giant cuck
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How do you even manage 15k ES without crazy GGG gear or occultist? I imagine it's a move I can just dodge I guess. I'm at 10k ES right now
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>25 posts and only 4 replies in it
I guess (You)'ll have to move on to greener pastures soon enough...
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>>166177646
>>166177643
>>166177580
>>166177575
>>166177573
>>166177549
>>166177515
An admin (you)'d me back when /q/ was still a thing, been set every since. Enjoy.
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what are some good generals for (You) farming
this one has been plowed dry for the time being
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>3.0 isn't for another 4 months
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>>166177797
/wfg/
See >>166145775
and that's with half the general having that guy filtered
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why all guides use orb of storms to trigger EE rather than ball of lightning ? just seems too close ranged for a caster.
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OoS is used to apply curses and proc EO too
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Orb of storms can generate multiple power charges from power charge on crit support with one cast. Only other skill that can do that is Blade Vortex. So you're using OoS anyways and it just happens to be a lightning skill to proc the penetration from elementalist and also not be converted from pyre so lightning is the best way to proc EE.
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Because you drop it and it just works.
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>tfw one of the few who has gotten (You)'d this thread
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because casting ball lightning is gay
and if you cursing immediate curses on bosses is nice
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>>166178084
can't ball of light do that? currently using OoS for EE and elemental weakness triggering for SRS build.
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need more content pls

ty
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Someone needs to give me a YOU this instant before I get ANGERY
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>ball of light
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>I have 4 whole (You)s this thread
Is this what being part of the 1% feels like? What's the best way to invest my (You)s to appreciate in value?
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forcing players to play through the same shit 3 times doesn't count as extra content
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JUST RELEASE THE OFFLINE VERSION
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>>166178227
That would honestly be fun. I'd play the fuck out of it. Maybe boosted drop rates and have fun making characters and cruising through the game doing fun shit
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Holy damage type when
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(Our) guy made a new meme build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UQ-KBLDAg0
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>>166177142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaLOOiXbkYo
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MODS
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>>166178329
sorce
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>watch 1 video on a pawn shop owner while leveling up
>end up unironically watching this guy's vlogs from 1-70 all day and enjoying watching this guy talk about his pawn shop and ebay shop


Imagine if PoEtards would flip IRL and not for 1 chaos per trade they could be getting $5

wow
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>>166178474
4chan.com
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i play softcore
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desu flipping pawn shit is probably easier because everyone is a drugged out retard selling their possessions for literal dirt. It would be the same as buying shit from noobie retards from trade chat
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so do i
don't tell anyone, poeg usually assumes you're a hardcuck until proven otherwise
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why do people not reply to each other anymore it makes everything awkward

autistic behavior imagine irl you respond to someone by looking away from them
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i used to have many poe friends but i slowly burned bridges with all of them
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>spending a (You)vote to reply
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i don't add anyone because it pisses me off when they come online/offline, and it makes me nervous about coming online/offline too frequently.
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any idea what I should price this as? I couldnt find any jewels up with the same 4 and trade chat wouldn't price it
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if you weren't a hardcuck you wouldn't have to log in and out 5 times per map
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you need to open yourself to others
it's unhealthy to close yourself like that
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I know that feel. All friends I've made on poe are retarded as fuck and can't handle my autism
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgOkVtdnnE
What did he mean by this?
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you can turn off online notifications
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I asked it last thread but I'll ask it again, what Zana mods are worth running on high tier maps and when should you start running them?
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>>166178632

I play standard
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>he still asks others to price his shit
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pretty shit jewel. It could be OK for WI but life is irrelevant
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bloodlines
beyond
t12+
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>>166178403
Music poster is that really you? I've missed you.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xgss5LotmfE
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hi srs_clown
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>>166178873
I only do it because there's literally 0 with the same 4 mods for sale online or offline so I have no baseline
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what genre is this? weeaboofaggotcore?
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use your brain retard. What build would want INT on a jewel with cold damage and life

HURRRRR NONE
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just bought a dying sun on my pathfinder cycloner before I even have a 6L

yolo
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masterpiececore
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i just 6ld my disfavour in 84 fusings
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>>166178919
Is this VN worth a read
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I bought a dying sun for my BF raider and who knows if it's even that useful
I just saw someone else using it
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Dude, Stygian Revenants are fucking scary.

Was already my favorite mob before I saw this pic.
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dying sun is so fucking good for just about any build
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>>166179103
Source is actually a LN
Yes it is

You could also just watch the movie/ovas
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>>166178794
10c
idk nigga if tis not on trade you can choose whatever price you want in honesty.....though it wont be sold..something niche is either insane max stats or hard to sell even if its good.
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never used it before and I am bad at this game so I had no idea
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>>166179181
Not when you have 4 flasks
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you can read right?
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What I don't get is when people get pretty decent items, but list it for so high no one buys them the entire league
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Why are you impersonating catposter?
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i wonder why staceily stopped streaming
she was my fav female poe streamer
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Me neither sometimes you see people listing items for literally 1-2 months on POE trade and they would still rather they keep it in their stash than sell it for a normal non jew price.
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With a flask like dying sun/vinktars do you need to drink before you start your BF channel to affect it, or during it is fine?
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why dont you go test it
don't tell me you can't afford dying sun lmoa
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Okay I'll test it
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>>166177171
Since that worked so well for Diablo.
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I've never found a single Portal gem in my 2k hours of playtime, at least until this league. I just found my third.

RNG seed guy sounds a bit less crazy.
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>using portal gem

sh*tcrow
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I have someone on my friend's list that actually has portal gems built into his build. Just retarded
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>>166075134
>free
>>166075237
>FREE
>>166079209
>FREE
>>166080196
>FREE
>>166087119
>free
>>166088682
>FREE
>>166094260
>free
>>166097431
>free
>>166115338
>free
>>166115516
>free
>>166116173
>free
>>166122639
>free
>>166138681
>free
>>166138904
>free
>>166141930
>FREE
>>166176937
>FREE
>>166176939
>free
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why is life bad?
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>>166179575
So did it work
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because life is full of suffering
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Life is sour
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Life is fleeting
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Life is
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>>166179971
>making fun of someone for doing the most efficient money making gem setup

youre the one retarded

all that time not spent on picking up portals is time making actual money
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>>166180524
please post your wealth
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>>166180524
>pick up a chaos orb
>exchange it for like 4 stacks of tps
>don't worry about tps for a week
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>pick up chaos orb
>exchange it for portal gem
>don't worry about tps until you rip or quit the league
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>tfw making 20 exalts an hour on Legacy League
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>>166180780
in that time spent finding someone to trade for 4 stacks of portals and trading I've already made at least 50 chaos

>80 tps lasts you a week

oh so youre just a casual shitter, that explains it
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what the fuck is legacy league
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>>166181094
the max stack of portal scrolls is 40 you retarded cuck stop posting
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Are you brain damaged? Why would I pick up scrolls. I just trade for scrolls and get thousands. It's much more efficient. Also you don't have to look for anyone. It literally takes one second to check price and then sell your chaos for scrolls and just map until someone wants to sell you a few thousand scrolls.
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if you were playing a good build you'd use a portal gem
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if you don't stop shitposting ill punch you in the face with my fist
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what ARE birds
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>shitters don't know you can corrupt a portal gem into a wisdom gem
>literally infinite scrolls with 0 pick up time
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there's only like one good hardcore player in this general

fuck off logoutcore idiots you can't even make it past 95 lol
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u dunno shit nerd
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i'm not a nerd, i'm one of the richest poe players in the game
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post it, nerd
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my wealth is mostly in items and spread over three accounts

no thanks
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nice proof
I believe you now
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>Random pm saying hi

It's ALWAYS a stupid fucking retard trying to buy your shit for his assorted mix of like 50 items or lowball the living shit out of you by being "nice"

every time

EVERY TIME!
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>>166183010
>>166182715
>>166182765
>>166182797
>>166183010
>>166182325
>people who dont post a reply on 4chins
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT LMAO U EXPECT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUS WHEN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT LOGOUT MACROS LMAOOOO WTF ARE YOU SERIOUS CAN YOU SEE HOW MUCH OF A BITCH YOURE BEING??
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i didnt read your post
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>>166183010
>bought a TR with a combination of vaal orbs, chaos orbs, and gemcutter's prisms
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what's a tr
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>giving 6 (You)s
disgusting
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I've played for 3 hours recently and I got these things

800 es regalia in 10 random chaos uses on an 84 ilvl

6 linked a daresso's defiance in 1 fusing (one)


what did u do
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>>166183010
It's funny when people refuse to paste the poe.trade message and expect sellers to conduct a stash investigation to find that one item they want.
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>>166184449
900 es regalia in 1 chance orb (one)
6 linked Kaom's heart in 1 jeweller's orb (one)

Git gud.
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>>166185851
*sends friend request*
*sends party invite*
*pms*
wtb harbringer
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>>166185851
u seel hatbring
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>>166185945
>>166186036
russia pls go
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>>166185851
harbringer 1c ty
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>can I pay you in chroms?
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so whats the word with the globe girls and the current patch? has someone not edited the .dds file together yet?
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feminism
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I've fucked up and there is no going back (for a long time) for my Ranger. Could someone help me out by suggesting a good build to follow for my Duelist so I can get used to playing "properly" please?
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>>166187035
>not giving them a bullshit rate when they try to pay you with obscure and high-in-demand currency
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Are there any popular builds that use empower? I'm pondering whether it's worth giving my gems some quality to speed up the process
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I got told to wait 5mins for a 16c ring and in 1 min a better trade came up for 4c. He was very flustered
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>>166188027
Try Slayer EQ with axes

I tried it recently and it's pretty good. The only con of it is you're playing life build that is dependant on building up leech so you need to mitigate/avoid bursts.

Uul netol's embrace if you want nice deeps or some rare vaal axe with good ipd as phys dmg rolls is enough to start off in a4m
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>>166188967
nobody cares faggot
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>>166188908
only worth doing early in the league desu

Early in the league empower/enlighten etc are worth a lot even at just lvl 3

Now they're worth nothing unless you get a lvl 4 vaal which is very time consuming and quite unlikely unless you level like 6 of them you MIGHT get a return

still VERY time consuming, would not recommend because the cost of investing in them right now is like 30c per one and you'll get a few exalts back IF you get a lvl 4.
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>>166188967
nice one
>>166189617
rude we are all friends here
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>when you want to upgrade your gear but your TWO (2) INT AND YOUR GEM DOESNT WORK ANYMORE

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>166190745
Nice build

Better pay up for them attribute jewelry
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>>166190745
>he levels his gems
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>>166177678
you are an idiot, theres a video of someone doing it with 1 life, CI + EB. its a mechanics fight, if you know what to do and don't suck you'll be fine. Having a nicebuildâ„¢ is a good handicap if you suck
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Is this shit set up so you get less gear for your current character than you do literally everything else or am I just super unlucky?
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>>166185851
hey
?
u there?
msg me when u get back

<10 minutes pass>
hey i want to buy your Vaal Regalia
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>>166190976
think this is D3? theres no sort of drop bias towards your build
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>>166177678
90% of shaper fight is where you pop the balls and managing zana's life
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>>166191091
billiyuns of swords and no bows, billiyuns of armour gear but no evasion gear, my nigga
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>>166191271
in this game, if you need something, 90% of the time it is better to buy it. You should craft things only if itll be cheaper than buying it or very specific to your build.
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>>166191271
don't bother picking up shit honestly

it's 99% garbage items and 0.01% good items, rest are barely worth the time invested in picking them up

get a loot filter and set it to strict, identify small items like ring/sbelts/3 slot item then sell those to get currency to buy exactly what you want

if ur under lvl 70 just buy goldrim and stuff like that for 1 chaos
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/v/ is talking shit about our game again and actually defending Diablo 3

>>>/v/364837705
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>>166192861
/v/edditors are shitcrows and have lost god
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>>166192861
>>166192945

people talk shit about poe here too
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yeah but we're elite HC players and have valid criticisms

they're just dirty casual shitcrows who quit after normal

winning a HC demi should be required before offering your opinions
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>>166193227
cause it's shit
but a different magnitude of shittiness from d3
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>tfw will only be able to grind for days when it's April
Smh so many nice items this league and no time to level (even with free breaches xp) one capable of killing breachlords
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>>166192945
/v/ also thinks a 720p 30fps console in 2017 will be a good thing

they also mostly play consoles in general

opinions = DISCARDED and TRASH
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phziw7NdZn0

1-70 in 6 hours hardcore

i thought HC was suppose to be hard
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Bloodlines was the last time HC was hard.
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Guy literally insisted that i accept 2k worth of wis scrolls for my 5l belly of the beast.

Was I being trolled?
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>>166196751
>It's a "Buyer tries to used mixed currency well below the asking price of the item to confuse you" episode
Buyers can be obnoxious cunts. Additional points if they try throwing in pieces of equipment
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So, HoGM is pretty much can't be done by HoWaA unless I get a block reduction gem right?
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remember when this general had good content
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>>166194761
he ripped dumbass lmao, he just finished the run in standard
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>sell for 50 chaos
>guy come with 50 regal. Tell I'm I want 50 chaos for it
>"b-but its the same recipe'
>"that's not even comparable in term of use, nor what I want''
>"but it took me (blablabla)''
>"I want 50 chaos for it"
>HE start to sub some regal for fusing/chisel
>"I SPECIFICALLY want chaos orb dude"
>"that's not how trading works"

...
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How do i stop dying? Trying to push for 100 but i keep dying to offscreen bearers and oneshot volatiles.
Do i try to get +15k es or start playing slow?
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>>166198510
>Tell I'm I want
Tell him I want*

anyways, jsut how hard is it for people to grasp? Not the first time this happen. He can try to bargain the actual chaos amount if he want bu not the orb type.
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>>166198740
>volatiles
Are you melee or something? I never die do there since I just that extra measure when I encounter one, unless you jump right in without reading the mob mods.
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Player interaction is the fucking worst, just put asynchronous trading in already.
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>>166198991
you should play single player games then
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>(C91) [Eroquis! (Butcha-U)] Hammer Head Hooker (Final Fantasy XV) [English] [biribiri]
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>>166198839
how do you have time to read mods while getting decent xp?
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>>166199402
Good taste.
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>>166199565
its simple, if you see orange you take 0.5 sec to drag your cursor over and spot the mod
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>>166199565
just use ur brain my man
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>>166199565
if you're dying, you're not getting decent exp
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>>166200315
that is the problem, the way i see it the best way to deal with dangerous mods is just to stack more es so i can ignore everything and go fast
i was wondering if there were other options. I did not die once from 96-97 but i have died three times on 97 so maybe im just unlucky
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>>166200742
the thing is that there's always a limit to what you can "ignore". It really depends on the map mods at that point.
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What makes EQ Jugg the go-to uber lab farmer? The ascendancy points?
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>>166203048
Fast, tough, armor still relevant in at Uber izaro, cheap to gear (5L marohi and thats it)
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If I have to read text every time before I kill a mob that is retarded. Bearers are fine since even if you don't read it, there is still a visual indicator showing you were the damage is. With volatiles the only indicator is the orange outline of the mob having a nemesis mod.
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>>166178227
>>166178284

Offline version with modding tools and league selector. And a character/item editor like Hero Editor for D2. And inventory storage manager a-la TQ Vault.

It would be very very fun; Id pay for that.
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didn't read you're blogpost
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im gonna leave this thread now
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*leaves the thread*
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>>166203230
In what order are the Jugg ascendancy passives pick up?
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okay i'm goin'

takin' off

cya

bye
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Stop discussing PoE
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go away varg

burn some churches maybe
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I wish I knew what love meant
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where does onahole drop?
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Right here
*unzips dick*
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>tfw no guild-whisper messages system to give (You)s in-game
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>>166203230
I usually go endurance, endurance, fortify.
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>>166206231
meant for
>>166204495
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>Trying to imagine clicking on clasped hands on a console
This isn't getting into the game in any fashion, huh?
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>>166206691
maybe there will be a dedicated button to opening nearby chests
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nice FREE game poetards
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>muh reddit spreadsheets
>muh lack of in-game experience
>muh low-effort shitposts
find a rope, tie a solid knot then hang yourself
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>I'm unable to understand numbers and maths so they piss me off
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buttbirds have lower IQ than procore players
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>attack skill gems are to be compared in a vacuum, completely ignoring weapon restrictions, ease of scaling, difference of support gems, damage delivery, utility and leech acceleration potential

>dude just look at my bar graph lol trust me I'm an expert I got a level 72 in hardcore xD
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which of you nerds will rush my poor ass through act 4 cruel
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>>166190894
He said how much does he need to be able to tank everything, not how much does he need to do the fight.
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>3800 chromes cost average
>2 chromatic items per dried lake
this is gonna take a little while to farm up isn't it?
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>>166211717
What the hell are you trying to do? 6 red a Shavronne's Wrappings, or something?
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So I'm usually lazy and only buy from poe.trade.

Now that I want to sell something, all I need to do is make a shop on the league forum, link the items with price and... thats it?

Tired to search on poe.trade for the items I put to see if it was working and after half an hour I still cant find myself using the search by user
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>>166212061
5 off a xoph's bow. Ideally it'd be 6 off but that would average 71k chromes which would cost more than the rest of the build combined. As it is a 200c bow with 250c worth of chroming to do.
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>>166212371
make a premium tab public and you can put the item in and click on it to set a price

thats it
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>>166212371
You have to set shit up so you appear as online. Get procurement or acquisition, once you set them up they do it for you.
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>>166212696
You would have better changes of getting a a 6W from a corruption
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Does anyone have the video of the EB+CI shaper kill?
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>>166212696
Jesus christ, are you using Kaom's Heart, or something? Just roll them on your body armor. Anon, I'm worried about you
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>>166212371
Look up a youtube video on how to set up acquisition if you don't have premium tabs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptQzhKk43y0

/ourguy/
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>>166212934
running what would be 6 off for xoph's on my chest since it's only 1 off, and that 6L is much more important. The bow 6L is just firestorm totem to spam out ignites for taming.
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>>166212710
>>166212838

alright thanks

>>166213117
I do have some but forgot about the public thing
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fuck projectpt
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>>166213140
that contrast between 1.3 footage and 2.5 footage at around 23:00 to like 23:30

what have we become
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>>166213697
>what have we become
Diablo 3
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>>166213140
>tfw path of exile is taking the path of D3
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what the fuck is this general holy shit the (You) memes are off the charts
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>>166214036
this desu, farming t13 in d3 and farming t11 in poe are so similar a newbie couldnt tell the difference
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@166214171
Retart
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OldSchoolPoE servers when
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It all makes sense now. Your "name" is your "gamertag" on xbox. They don't care about your name or Diablo 2 culture. GGG hasn't even been entertaining non console specific ideas this whole time. And it was likely a GGG employee who knew all along desperately denying everything posted. Feels bad man. Suck a dick GGG and you too inevitable GGGIDF
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fixed price autist is back
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next league im gonna beat shaper with an unascended scion
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ehat the fUCK
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>>166214759
>Nerfing instaflasks
Oh boy, now life builds are completely useless and anyone without vaal pact is useless.

Good job you retard.
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ok so is this game worth playing casually or what? i just want something to have fun with every evening for a coupe of hours when i get home and before i go to bed
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>>166215527
wait for xbox1 version, pc version is unstable, runs like shit and has no auction house
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>>166215441
>Implying they aren't already
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>>166215441
Life flasks are almost useless already in the endgame.
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Would a commodity auction house ruin the economy? I couldn't care less about actual equipment, but there's no reason to have PLAYER INTERACTION buying and selling things that are exactly the same from one person to another. It would make buying essences or div cards en masse actually feasible.
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Shoutouts to Vaal Detonate Dead in the Putrid Cloister boss rooms.
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>>166215527
No. If you're playing on Xbox, you wont be able to play while watching TV.
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>>166215736
then why does every single life build run them?
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>>166215638
>>166215946

i summoned this salt and i wasn't even trying

/poeg/ most butthurt general confirmed?
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>>166216312
because they don't get to put their panic buttons in a vaal skill.
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>>166216312
I'd say a vast majority, not all.

Any life build that invests enough into life will eventually come to the conclusion that a utility flask is better than any insta pot.

as HP increases, the value of an instant life pot decreases.
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>>166216824
forgot about forbidden taste
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>>166213212
> bow build
> firestorm

Retard
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fuck i didnt know act4 final boss did damage when he comes out of the ground in second phase

just kod my ranger with max resists and 2,8k health
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you're all cucks
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Yeah, this is great! This new Xbox announcement will save me so much money.

So you invited the Xbox peasants, you're detirmined to balance the future game around a controller input device. Well, off course you can do whatever you want. But so can I.

I'm so glad I don't have to spend any more money to GGG to develop the game any further. I'll just sit back and watch this game die while GGG is becoming the new Blizzard.

Thank you for the time, GGG. I had a blast with this game during the last few years. Rest in peace.
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>no pvp tournaments
>no more HC leagues
>no more racing
>no more competitive leagues
>challenge leagues are too easy
>p2w tabs
>sold out to china and microsoft
>balance is still shit
>stability is still shit
>meta is still shit
>p2p leagues coming

does this game have a future
>>
>buys challenges every league
>>challenge leagues are too easy
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Does fire resist "double dip" on reducing ignites? If I have 75% fire res, do I reduce 75% from the initial hit, and then the ignite gets reduced again?
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>>166220051
Yes.
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>>166180076
We appreciate you and the fReE (You)s
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I don't get people that buy challenges desu. What's the point of buying all the challenges and then quitting halfway through the league. Why not just play at your own pace and play builds that are fun and just fuck around.

Do you only play this game because you are addicted to the grind and want to finish challenges, and don't actually enjoy the game itself?
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uhm

i noticed that you can roll %es on your jewelry
but you can't roll % life, only % armor and % evasion

can ggg PLEASE clarify? is this a bug???? ggg surely doesn't think 1 armor = 1 es = 1 eva do they? even a small indie company like them are smarter than that
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>tfw buying an xbone and gold sub to play poe only
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most people are casualt shitters
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Whats the point of playing hardcore when most people just use a script that logs them out if theyre anywhere close to dying?
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@166222163
truuuuu
>>
no point in countering
logout scripts, it's a console game
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official POEG hierarchy:

SSF PC HC
SSF PC SC
SSF PC XBOX1
PC HC
SC SC
SC PC XBOX1
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>>166222117
>tfw buying xbox scorpio 9 months after to play poe in vr
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>>166213140
>GGG: we didn't design certain spells because they wouldn't work well with predictive mode
Somebody want to explain to me again why it's wrong to believe that they are going to ignore ideas that wouldn't work well on a console from now on?
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^reddit cross-poster
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>>166215736
It's a bit cute that the old "life has an advantage because they can flask up" turned into "ES has an advantage because they don't need to waste their flask slots on life", especially with how good vaal discipline is.
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>>166222723
because they made ED/contagion while console was already on the way
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imagine playing viper strike on xbox 1
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imagine only the non meme skills will be on console while pc is left with tons of broken and imbalanced shit
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>>166198510
>>166198743
As a new player I don't have a lot of chaos orbs, but I have some other stuff. Would you accept non-chaos orbs if the total was worth more by a good margin (and I dont mean just a shit ton of scrolls either)?
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>mfw xbone will most likely have automatic currency pickup just by going near it
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cry about it bitch nigga
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lockstep is literally the only improvement GGG has made that wasn't done directly for profit
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You guys vendor all your gems and relevel for 20 quality? hard to level up a million backup gems at once
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>>166224768
vendor and relevel supports and attacks, but not spells.
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>>166223530
Why don't you take your non-chaos stuff and buy chaos orbs with it instead of unloading that effort on the guy who sells you something?
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>new currency
>Palette of Kalandra
>drops as frequently as eternals used to
>copies socket colors from one item to another
>can't copy white sockets
>flags copied to item as mirrored
Please, ggg?
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>>166225781
I don't know how to use poe.price
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>>166225803
rolling colours not that bad though
chromatics always cheap as shit so even if you need to use 10k it doesn't really matter
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>>166225803
there's no point. it'd be cheaper to buy the chroms and do it yourself
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>>166226095
It'd probably stabilize around the price of a couple ex, so it'd still be cheaper for getting 5 or 6 off on a high tier base, so if it would average like 2k chromes to get what you want on a unique you just mirror the sockets and don't have to take the risk. The equivalent of vorici crafting 6 link. It's more expensive than just trying to roll it but it cuts RNG.
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>when my friend slams a t1 ES on his t1 hybrid/+ES
i'm fucking jelly desu
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>>166225914
poe.trade
click currency in top right
click what you got and what you want
hit the whisper button
copy paste in game
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Are there any builds that would use this coloring?
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>>166223651
That would be fucking awesome actually
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HOW TO FUCKING SELL SHIT I SPAM THE TRADE CHAT ADN NEVER ONCE SOM! REPLIED

REEEEEEEEEEE I EVEN HAVE SUPER LOW PRICES
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>>166226734
buy a trade stash tab and use poe.trade
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>>166226734
>using the in game support to trade
I can tell you where you fucked up, but I won't.
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>>166227164
is there any way that doesnt involve real money?
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>>166226658
everything about the console version is amazing (autoloot, auction house, better drops for self found), but pcfags are too butthurt to see it
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>>166227484
No. POE is p2w.
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>the game is now balanced the way Project Post Traumatic wants it to
>the most powerful builds struggle to clear t10 maps
>most players farm normal dried lake to level 80 because they rip otherwise
>only a true pro with 1ms ping and mirror tier gear can even consider entering red maps
>meanwhile even middle tier builds can't finish cruel
>maximum life is now 1k and es is hard capped at 50
>everyone stops playing because it's impossible so the economy dries up entirely so SSF is basically enforced
There's literally nothing wrong with the game being balanced around the average player instead of the highest level. There's always going to be some builds that are particularly good at abusing combinations of mechanics, it's unavoidable in a game like PoE. I'm fine with some people being able to kill shaper in 5 seconds if it means I can kill him at all with a build that isn't literally perfect in every way.
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Are you supposed to be able to face tank the wolf boss in dark forest? He sent a million wolfs out and killed me
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>>166226470

i spent 5 minutes trying to think of a meme build with that and couldn't

best i could do was cleave/sweep -> crit% -> crit multi -> inc aoe -> conc effect -> ??? (sometihng borderline useless like ele prolif/innervate/iir/added chaos)
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>>166228773
>are you supposed to be able to face tank
you could've stopped there and the answer would still be no.
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>>166226470
I wonder if there are any builds that would use this weapon.
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fucking chimera guardian, didn't think it'd be hard
had to use all 6 portals
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fuck off sh*tcrow
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>tfw I just carried friend through chimera while not dying once
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desu chimera is the only guardian that's way easier in a group
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>>166229680
suck my dick hardcuck
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>>166228773

If you ever want to facetank end game bosses you basically have to build specifically to face tank and have 2.5dps

and even then its a gamble
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>>166228773
It's one of the worst things to try to facetank, I couldn't even facetank it with my vinktard's BF pathfinder if the map had a few damage mods.
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>>166229969
Or you could be CI ER VP and just have enough damage that nothing can keep up and the only time you're at risk is in invulnerability phases like Izaro or Rigwald get.
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>>166203962
A similar thing happened to me but I was naked so she just left me alone.
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>>166222381
no point in playing this game on hc anymore since it isnt actually difficult now. the thing your most likely to die to is a dc/some absolute meme bullshit that shouldnt have happened anyway. the game is dead.
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>>166232250
fun fact : nobody gives a shit about hardcore
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>>166203962
>>166231680
human filth
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>>166232409
enjoy ur second rate economy with turbo inflation, softcuck
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>someone actually mad at me on my flist because I ele resist cap

>duddeeeeee just use ele purity or reroll!!!!!!!!!
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>>166232409
sh*tcore is for lower class plebs

hardcore is for rich VIP elites
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>>166231495
It's a common mistake I do being new to the game. I don't really read about the bosses before I go in and just assume oh yeah I am stronk I can facetank it all
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>>166232940
Entire rigwald fight is shit.
>Invuln during wolf form
>Can't facetank wolf spam
I've found that right before he turns into a wolf he's more vulnerable to damage, so I can chunk out half his hp right there.
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I finally sold my 370ES helm with ST projectile for 200chaos and just bought a new one for 30c lmao
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uhhhhh who gaming right now
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reminder hc is currently in a death spiral and will become a wasteland soon

>people shifting to softcore because of identical challenges and mtx rewards
>getting to 100 is just an strand grind since you no longer have to run deadly maps to sustain, all prestige is gone since characters are so powerful
>mass migration away destroys hc economy and bolsters sc economy, people will need to switch to sc to play specific builds due to item availability

if you played hc pre ascendency you were an ubermensch, but now you're just on a sinking ship sticking to it out of autism and something to prove to yourself.
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>>166219778
>no pvp tournaments
PVP was garbage
>no more HC leagues
And the league quality in general has been better for it
>no more racing
Shit sucks but whatever
>no more competitive leagues
What did he mean by this
>challenge leagues are too easy
Breach has been pretty fun, bosses should have been harder though
>p2w tabs
wew lad
>sold out to china and microsoft
WEW LAD
>balance is still shit
It's been worse
>stability is still shit
Do you play from Singapore?
>meta is still shit
Been worse
>p2p leagues coming
Source

Dumb catposter
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how dare you argue with me
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4 Years on the dot since open beta started with version 0.10.0. Now we know for sure that there won't be any content in the future; The game lasted longer than most others but it's time to say so long, and thanks for all the fish.
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>>166227665
I still don't know why currency tabs couldn't be integrated into your inventory screen. I mean it's tedious enough even with loot filters to organize all your shit.

Old school arpgs fail as a genre because they lack modern streamlining. I'm an old fag and even I admit that.
>>
Is flipping rares worth it or should I stick to uniques?
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>>166235746

What fish?
>>
Ok, so i have heard about Scourge. I want to give it a shot. So what do i do, any usefull tips/recomendations?
>>
>he doesnt get the le epin le memebook reference ;^^^^)
>>
rares are good when it's a really good deal since they take longer to move usually. Uniques are easy to move
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>>166237538
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1769788
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>making meme build that's like 6k total health pool for same budget you can be 10k ES on howa and actually survive high end contetnt
>>
Fuck OLD path of exile
Fuck slow clear speed
Fuck rare monsters taking minutes to kill
Fuck snapshotting
Fuck desync
Fuck the maelstrom of chaos
Fuck Ruthless difficulty
Fuck the old league challenges (have these uniques at the end of season)
Fuck the "veterans" holding this game back from progress

Path of Exile is improving in every patch, and legacy players are starting to bitch and moan that they aren't the target audience anymore.
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>>166237582
>>166237582
>>166237582
>>166237582
>>166237582
>he literally unironically thinks that the thanks for the fish originated on facebook
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>>166238281

Thanks senpai. I thought i might roll with occultist for that, but oh well.
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>>166239451

You forgot:

Fuck legacy items.
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>>166238418
> make 9k hp earthquake build with 12k armor and slayer leech
> still worse than howa who just leeches through everything with vaal pact + ghost reaver
> can't use vaal ''moar life now'' on life builds
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>>166239451
Might as well play sonic the hedgehog it at least has challenge and isn't aimed at an audience that wants to watch the television while playing the game like some Asian grind MMO.
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>>166234481
The game is unchallenging because GGG refuses to nerf anything in fear that it might lose them players. That's why every patch everyone plays the same broken as tits build on the top of the ladder that is usually 2 times to 3 times better than the next best build. 0 balance patches in a new league.

The game has received almost nothing ever since the last skilltree revamp that forced every life build to take a visit to the scion life wheel.
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>>166240435
Fuck finding gems
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>>166239451
I agree. No meme here, the game is way better than what it has ever been. Just fix vaal pact/CI
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>>166232250
No one is forcing you to play these meme builds anon, the game is as hard as you make it. I mean I could play totems as a league starter but I won't because I don't enjoy it and I'm not a retard
>>
How are the guardians ranked in terms of easiest to more difficult?
>>
>>166228690
you are my guy

you were able to phrase it in a way i would have expressed it aswell if i had the words for it

the statistics showed that i think under 1% got the 36 challenges this league (if you just count all people that atleast completed 24 challenges as active or true players then it was still smth like 3%)

i think the game is in a REALLY good spot right now they just have to make sure things dont get riddiculous from now on otherwise we will just end up with greater rifts

there are so many people i consider not even shit at the game that still struggle with the game

also thinking the mechanics of poe are easily graspable after just one league is laughable
>>
>>166241552
hydra is easy to do taking no damage
minotaur is easy as long as you don't get out of his melee range
phoenix adds hurt like fuck but as long as you don't have +aoe or cast speed on boss hes doable
chimera is a motherfucker
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>>166242361
Thanks for the reply. Funny part is I've killed chimera like 7 times already because no t15/other guardian map drops and I've been scared the other ones are gonna fuck me up
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>>166242432
git gud

play hc
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>Smuggler in the empty area leading up to Brutus
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>>166241552
>>166242361

i think the first time hydra is hardest but gets really easy from the third time on

phoenix is easy just dont have absolute shit damage, dodge the blast and either stay close enough so he doesnt cyclone at all or dodge it
(also the no aoe and cast speed stuff)

i dont like minotaur but he by far the easiest one, just dont roll vulnerability or double damage mods
if you struggle get a stone golem

chimera for me as a summoner always was the easiest by far but i recently played something else and got shit on hard
either have leech/really high regen or something that can tank it for you otherwise it will objectively be the hardest for you
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I have never killed a guardian in my lie, AMA
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why the fuck does my warlorks mark not trigger on cast when damage taken? enfeeble works fine, and yes the level required by warlords is lower than the req for CWDT gem
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I ... lost interest in 2d porn ............
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Did he deserve it?
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>>166243674
god that faggots voice is so annoying
>>
>>166243389
no time invested or shit build?

>>166243674
going in on quay boss with no anti bleed flask / not being ready to use it

ye
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Is there a difference between minotaurs smashes? I notice some where he does overhead smash I survive, others just one shot me
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>>166244039
You're probably getting crit when you get one shot.
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oh, you cant have multiple curses linked to the same CWDT

this is never mentioned on the gem at all nor in the wiki

real nice game poptarts. le hiding information from you """""""complexity"""""""""
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>>166244379
You can, though, are you retarded?
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>>166244378
Never thought about that. I should switch my experimenter's basalt to chemist so I can use it on two smashes and it will probably be easier going next time
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>>166244494
>have enfeeble and warlords mark in, only enfeeble works, mark does not work
>take out enfeeble, warlords mark works perfectly

explain that then faggot
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>>166244619
you can only apply one curse to an enemy
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>>166244619
based retard
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>>166244619
hahahahaha
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>>166244619
ebin, absolutely ebin
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>>166244752
>>166244806
>>166244824
>>166244997
easiest >yous of my life
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>>166244379
There's plenty of obfuscating shit in PoE that is unnecessarily hidden or needs external researching to be understood. The fact that enemies can only have one curse debuff at a time is not of one of them. I hope this is bait, but I wouldn't put it past the new gamer generation for this to be an actual complaint.
>>
How do people fit so many auras in? I can only get HoA and Discipline, I'd really like grace or hatred as well as these like I see people with my build doing but I just dont see how its possible
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>>166245656
Aura reservation on tree and enlighten.
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>>166245656
enlighten
4% reduced reservation node
essence worm
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>>166245656
Also if you go Low life and use blood magic you can use even more auras
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>>166243674
>>166244023
>>166243906
He got fucked by the bodyguard sextant which currently tripples boss damage for some reason, I think.
>>
Does anybody else watch Hegemony's stream? I really like how he has a purpose for everything he does.
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>>166245902
>>166245926
Oh, I actually didn't know enlighten did that. I had one drop but the text is completely blank. Whoops

They dont have it on the skill trees but Im pretty sure they're running enlighten so that explains it. They also both have skyforths which I just noticed also reduces reserved amount

how that does -6% work exactly, is it 6 off every aura, or add all the auras together and then take 6% off
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>>166246539
>how that does -6% work exactly, is it 6 off every aura, or add all the auras together and then take 6% off

thats the same amount
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>>166246361
I only watch his stream for his fuccboi asian smooth voice, not interested in his shitcore endeavours
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How am I supposed to deal with the gravity bomb things in shaper? Do I just run to the edge and wait for them to hit me or what?
>>
pussy
>>
I got this trickster laying aroud but I can't seem to find a good build for it, can you change ascendencies or is there a fun trickster build that's not cyclone?
>>
yes, that's exactly what you're supposed to do
>>
essence drain
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>>166248485
eeeh, already leveled that in perandus.
>>
lightning warp totems
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I killed shaper in my last portal but it was a fucking joke. In the end part I feel like I'm getting those gravity things 24/7 and have no time to dps at all as a melee character. Any tips?
>>
Why is there a controller ui on that OP pic?
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god damn dying sun is NICE
>>
don't play melee
that's my tip
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>>166246539
it's 6% reduced reservation. If you had 100% of your mana reserved normally, you'd have (1-0.06)*100% = 94% reserved. If you had 50% reserved, you'd have (1-0.06)*50% = 47% reserved. If you had skyforth+a 4% reduced node on tree you'd have (1-(0.06+0.04))*100% = 90% reserved.
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temple rotations are so fucking boring but 400M exp/hour is pretty insane
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>>166249147
Get more DPS
Shaper fight is all about DPS, since getting hit by anything other than his basic attack or the beam will instagib you.
You want to get enough DPS to kill him before the whole arena gets shat up with bubbles.
Also, if you have trouble keeping Zana alive, just let her die right off the bat. She'll likely be ready to go again shortly after the portal closes, which is preferable to the alternative.
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>lurking 820
>someone says they have a redblade strongbox
>pm them
>they invite me and 4 others
>get in
>someone asks OP if they have the challenge yet
>OP says they dont
>person goes "oh you should take it then"
>walk up to it and activate it
>die to the box
>they kill it
>I get the challenge
>leave
>no one knew who opened it because everyone was standing next to it
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>>166250157
I think I probably just need more practice with it. There were a lot of times where I could probably dps, or face tank leech and do dps while I was scared running around dodging shit. I'm at like 10k es with 300k 6 stage BF dps according to path of building. I was probably just being too much of a pussy to go hard and I was running around most of the time.

The first two phases I did fine, but then the last one I just got fucked up running around tot he edges waiting for gravity to hit me
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>>166248227
It costs 5 regret points to remove a single ascendancy point. If you remove all of your allocated ascendancy points and redo any labyrinth you can change your ascendancy.

If you're fine with no leech as a Trickster, go CoC Pyre Vortex for huge ignites.
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>>166249526
thank you for the hourly shitcore post
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>>166251142
>Playing the mode the game isn't balanced around
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D
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flip me in the ass
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got DD'd for 8k in poorjoy
balanced map rofl
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>>166253624
What's DD
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Double Dip
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How you you get double dipped by an enemy lol
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dipped once by whipper
dipped again with vulnerability
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Detonate Dead
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does dd dd?
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does a bear shit in the woods
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it's likely, yes

i can't confirm as iv'e never seen a bear in the woods
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imagine being a bear
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What if you are the bear
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Monobear
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imagine being the bear taking a shit and some guy walks up to you just to confirm that you shit in the woods

unbelievable
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Do bears DD
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that would be unbearable
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that was a beary funny pun
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I hate this general
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poe has turned into the most autistic general I browse over the last couple weeks

maybe xboners will save us
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it's not JUST a phase, mom...
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No, /bsg/ is way worse ...
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I think the lack of replying is what bothers me most
>>
I actually like that tbqh
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I brought the no quoting meme from the /sc2/ gen
you're all very welcome
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I already replied to a couple people today. I can't waste any more
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lmao when you still play sc2 and probably never hit masters
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>>166259940
no one likes you fucking faggot
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>he doesnt play coop
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diamond protoss = master terran/zerg
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if a (You) is a Chaos what is an Exalt
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I know this is bait now
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Rive Assassin summoner

y/n
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careful with that edge, son
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I need to find a vaal side area for several of my prophecies. But I'm already done with all acts, so where am I most likely to get one?
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>>166260940
wherever
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put a sacrifice fragment into your map device
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theres a prophecy for it
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why don't people use totems with whispering ice
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are you retarded?
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>>166261131
because its shit?
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are you?
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answer the question.
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what is whispering ice?
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a staff I think
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never reply to me again
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*farts*
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>>166261131
Same reason people don't use it with traps

They're incapable of making any builds for themselves and have to use guides
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>>166260940
Spam Vaal fragments in the map device you Luddite
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>>166261646
Can you do this to complete the challenge?
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)2.5.2 got delayed
)probably coming a week from now
Amazing
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I can't make builds for myself either because if the good then it fits into whatever is hot at the time and I haven't really made a build for myself
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>>166261131
because you can't afford to take the totem nodes to make it not shit?
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who said anything about totem nodes
usual scaling + two totems for more dps
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>26% less damage
>30% less cast speed
>can't use spell echo to make cast speed not be aids
>lose a socket that could be a straight MORE damage
seriously you're retarded, kill yourself
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why don't you do it
You could probably do it now for cheap at this point in the league
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what the fuck am i doing
i leveld with shieldcharge up to 64 thinking once i put surrender on i could just afk and have some random skills to do damage.
my items are completely fucking retarded and i dont know what im doing
i have surrender and abyssus and a random assortment of items to make up the hp pool, none of which are good
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you're embarrassing bad at this game
follow a build guide next time
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Yes
Literally what the fuck are you doing
Also that pathing up to the scion life tree could be made better by going through from the line beside the duelist start point
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>>166261646
Oh right, I forgot about that, thanks
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>>166262257
seems like you're lacking some lab runs. What level are you? What league?
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>when people are elitist about a game that isn't even competitive
rlly makes me think
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>shield charge as anything but a way to get around quickly
Lol
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didn't you see that webm of the autist here using shield charge dying in hc to a breach
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>>166262393
i was, cunt. I was hopping between alkaizer and a forum guide but the pathing between them is slightly different, im meaning to use regrets to fix this shit
>>166262512
yeah i just zerg rushed to 64 and only did normal lab. i got here in like 2 days and now have hard dropped this character because i have no idea what im doing
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>when people mock my lack of knowledge, I'll just call them elitists, that'll show them
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no I didn't see it
Should I havr
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yeah he had fully charged vaal disc and haste and some other shit and didn't use it once during breach and then just died lamo
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>>166262665
why drop it? You could level for a while in dried lake and fix it up
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lel what a moron I hope someone reposts it
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rlly makes me think when people don't just spam their flasks/vaal skills during breaches
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>>166262837
drop it as in stopped trying to progress so i can fix it, im just out of my depth because this is the first block build ive ever played and not fully following a guide trying to merge two was fucking dumb
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>>166263162
where are you now? (act/difficulty)
I could help you reach dried lake so you can level/fix your build/start grinding for goods.

I ever offer you to sell you regrets at half the current rate if you need.
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it was a cospri's discharge using shield charge to proc coc and he got silenced and didn't have a curse flask so he couldn't vaal skill either.
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>making excuses for yourself
yeah he was silenced the entire breach lol
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>all these uul breach in the past 48h
did they patch something? I'm getting it regularly now.
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is bladefall totem a good build
life based
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>>166263243
appreciate it mate but im nearly done with act 3 merc and ill just deal with my regrets later on. people are netflixing now too, ping is through the roof so no point playing
ill probably just chuck on facebreakers and a tabula again to get through this and respec into a single build, probably the forum one because the alkaizer one was out of my budget but i had a abyssus so i figured id give bootlegging a go.

i also bought a cospris on someones recommendation here but dont recall why Lol
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>life based
no
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>>166263637
kek
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it wasn't even me, someone reposted it from reddit.
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my 5-minute tree puts me at 10k life and 20k dps per totem
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I wouldn't trust to add anyone from here anyways. They are all anti social retards from my experience
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>>166263637
yes if you go hybrid (LL), and with poison/chaos setup.
I'm doing that right now but with shockwave totem since I prefer it.
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>>166263858
shockwave totem deals no damage though
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40k dps is fucking trash tier.
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>>166263936
I hope you're joking.
Also I love the CC
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is it better dps to hold down at 6 charges with BF, or release every 6 stacks for bosses?
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>>166264069
see >>166207378
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if you're tired of starting over, stop giving up
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>>166264069
you should be dropping 6 stacks as soon as you get them
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>>166263968
Bladefall: 380-570 damage, hits at least twice, 6% less damage on second hit
Cast time: 0.8
Added Chaos: 170-256 damage
Damage effectiveness: 90%
Spell Totem: 26% less damage

3L BF - Added Chaos - Spell totem DPS:
(380+570+(170+256)*0.9)*0.5*(1+0.94)/0.8*0.74 = 1196

Shockwave Totem: 231-469 damage, hits once
Cast time: 0.6
Added Chaos: 170-256 damage
Damage effectiveness: 60%

2L Shockwave Totem - Added Chaos DPS:
(231+469+(170+256)*0.6)*0.5/0.6 = 796

1196/796 = 1.5
Can you really make up for a 1.5 multiplier with a support you save from not using Spell Totem? doubt it
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>>166264130
>>166264297
Thank you
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>>166264324
Empower?
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>>166264387
3L Shockwave Totem - Added Chaos - Empower 4 DPS:
(311+578+(170+256)*0.6)*0.5/0.6 = 953

still not seeing the damage here
the CC is nice, but it's still 20% weaker than BF
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Anyone else here playing howa BF?
What gem setups you running? Blood rage starting to annoy be annoying af for some fights where you have downtime and then your hp just drains
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don't use BR then -.-
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i wanna play mathil's vaal power siphon but not sure how to level early on

fire trap+frozen pulse worked fine but around level 15-20 it was getting fucking slow since i dont have any spell dmg and it was getting to the point where i had to start taking wand nodes to progress.

Barrage with a shitty alched wand with a bit or phys\ele is fucking garbo, even with a tabula linked up

should i use a bow? stop speccing into wands until later? just not sure its a weird build to begin with
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>>166264787
>vaal power siphon
sounds fun, got a link?
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>>166264989
was on mathils stream today

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Mathil/characters

character was "wandsintwentyseventeen"
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>>166265072
thanks. Seems like KB is the way to go for leveling.
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>>166265313
28 thoooo
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>>166265343
you have a few uniques to spend that up to there?
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>>166235746
>joined in 2013
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>>166265550
ive got tabula, wandelust, goldrim

nothing really damagewise, i have 2x lifesprig but those were only good early, maybe i should upgrade to axioms
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BV leveling is just the best way to go about any build you can't level as but can afford to wear a tabula. I cleared through merc dried lake on a 4L with like 50% relevant increased damage to it. The base damage is just so good.
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>>166266254
how should i link it up?

weapons are irrelevant right?
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>>166266340
BV - Faster Casting - Increased Duration - Increased Area of Effect - Added Fire Damage - Controlled Destruction
Add the gems as you unlock them. If at all possible, try to have a BV with a bit of quality, even like 10% is a huge help. I keep a 20% BV around I regret to level 1 when I level a new character.
I usually level with screaming eagles and karui charge up through normal, then swap to Brightbeak + life shield for cruel and merc to make it safer. Elreon coral or resist rings are nice and mean you can reserve 100% of your mana if you feel your damage is subpar. Priority is Hatred > HoA > HoI > HoT.
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How often do you even get stunned? Is it worth being stun immune in softcore
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Yes. Titty bitches are a thing. You will be stunned if you don't have a huge life pool or stun mitigation.
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yes
if you're stunned you cant kill everything before it kills you
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>there are people in this thread who haven't read Kaom's Roots' flavor text RIGHT NOW
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yeah but the every once in awhile you get stunned and die who cares?
nothing even happens
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>CI is cheap!
I hate this fucking retarded meme
Prices on BHC:

Chayula: 2 ex
Any 6L Vaal Regalia: 7-8 ex min
Any decent 350+ es hybris: 1-2ex (add 5-10 ex for relevant enchant base)
Any decent 400+ es titanium: 20c
Energy from Within: 20c
Average 200+ es gloves: 10-15c
Average 175+ es/20+ ms boots: 10-15c
Crystal belt: 2 ex

How is this cheap? I'm counting 15 ex for the bare minimum, easily 20-30 ex if you also need flasks and good jewellery
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Essence Drain + ZO makes the life regen from the skill into ES regen, right?
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yeah it does
>>
obviously
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>>166266851
yes, otherwise you start getting stunned everywhere from ~end of act3 (Merciless) to maps
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hold up
why are you using chayula as CI lmao
Use budget shit and slowly upgrade your gear autist
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Thanks you guys
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if you cant afford a chayula just wear valyrium goddamn
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>>166267080
>Chayula: 2 ex
you mean ~10 chaos?

beside, I made my first char CI. 9k because of dual consuming but still, I paid everything from 1 to 10 chaos, for around 60-70 chaos max. what the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>166267201
>>166267308
that's not the point, it's still 10 ex min to have a somewhat decent ES pool, like I could gear 2 life characters for the price of one 6L vaal regalia so don't tell me CI is cheap when supply < demand
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>>166267343
http://poe.trade/search/ukusewateisito

?
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>>166267201
I don't get it as well, its like people look only at end game gear and throw their arms in the air, when replacement exists that are damn cheap. My the Beast armor 5L is perfectly fine and cost me nothing.
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>6L
>minimum
A 4L skill setup with CI will be stronger than life just because you aren't wasting so many points on life.
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>>166267416
What the actual fuck happened? Man I bough 3 of those at ~10 chaos each like 2 weeks ago.

>HC
OH!
http://poe.trade/search/akononitakoaus
my bad then, maybe CI IS expensive for HC, I wouldn't know
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>25 shards from uul breach

ez game
>>
>play vspark once
>every character feels like a snail
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lol try vaal power siphon you noob lol
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>1 ex flask very next breach

Im so glad I started during loot pinata league, Im richer than most oldfags here
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>1ex makes you rich
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maybe 3 weeks ago
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>constant 1ex drops doesnt make you rich
>implying you need more than 10chaos/hour to be richer than most of the oldfags here in the first place

you wouldnt know though since you rip every char at 70 catshitter
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imagine being poor irl and in game too
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>take this random item you don't have and kill this boss with it
makes me mad every time
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What's the best emberwake+the taming build? I got a set of the new div cards for berek's respite and want to try it out.
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>>166268902
elementalist hysteria ball lightning
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>one frog remains
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>>166268932
why elementalist over xoph bow for prolif? And what do I actually do damage with?
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>>166269139
xoph's isn't really interesting unless you actually use the bow itself for damage, but then how can you effectively stack ignites and stack them fast? which is question you should ask yourself in an emberwake+taming build

elementalist is flexible, hysteria's fire burst deals a lot of damage, and ball lightning is an excellent hysteria ignite prolif vehicle on top of the 100% ignite conflux you get every now and then,
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>>166269459
oh I thought you meant the helmet hysteria ignite chance. what does the tooltip on the weapon fire burst look like, I haven't tried hysteria out yet.

also how are you making ball lightning actually do fire damage to ignite with?
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>>166269561
i don't remember, google it, it deals a high burst with a cd of 0.5s

elementalist ignites with any damage as long as ignite conflux is up, but the ignite from hysteria is consistent at least if you're crit
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One thing I noticed is people using blood rage as howa BF, but ancestral protector actually increases your dps more
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Hey /poeg/, Im coming back to the game after 2 years and would like to know if it is still insanely hard to farm up currency like it was back then. I would like to try the game again because of the new content but I just dont have the time to grind currency to make my build work.
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whats the most fun class to play and op
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>>166270118
chaos recipe still exists, it's also significantly easier to gear up now that master crafting is a thing, and a mediocre 6L is very budget now for various reasons so the entry cost to hit mid tier maps is very affordable even for a casual
>>166270164
Scion
>>
spark is fun if you want to make 2nd character for high tier bosses
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>1996% rarity increase on rare chest
>just get two rare items and a few blues
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How does this tree look?

http://poeurl.com/03v

The last few points I was looking at highest dps per point unless I missed something. I don't bother up the tree to arcane focus/deep wisdom etc because it's massive dps loss just for ES gain when I'm already sitting pretty at 11k.
I was surprised I didn't see other people grab trickey. It's about 5000 dps per node getting to it. I've seen another guy use the same tree but opt for charisma and mana reserve to run another aura. I'll have to check that out if it's more DPS
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>>166270390
why no Primal Spirit?

20% flask charges gained is pretty good for CI build that spams flasks and it helps with leveling too

20 INT for 2 points so those are not complete luxury either
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>>166270660
I probably could Also this is mainly made as a boss killer and not a map clearer. If it was the ladder I'd probably opt for it. The main goal if this character was just to quickly wipe the floor with bosses that my vaalspark can't do. Also if I were going to go above this level I'd probably start sticking points towards depth perception. It ends up as more dps
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>>166270675
don't give away (You)s like that...
>>
166270675
your kind is not welcome here
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>tfw I just got 10 (you)s added to my bank account
>>
166270675
Thanks for the (You)s i can almost buy an exalt with it
>>
Is this some kind of new fancy cryptocurrency?
>>
no, we're just experiencing a shortage of (You)s so everyone's trying to preserve theirs
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>>166271258
truly an ebin meme brought on by Jap Moot removing (you) for a day and people saw the effect it had
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>>166271346
Really great way to discourage any sort of discussion on this site since pretty much everything is just under the pretense of being a shitpost to collect (You)s.
>>
166271346
This meme predates (You)gate by ages
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anyone wanna level new characters on BHC
>>
fine I'll level alone
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Can you vendor a lvl 20 vaal gem + a prism to get a 20% quality vaal gem?
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>list item for same price as everyone else
>guy wants to buy it
>go to hideout and trade him without saying anything
>he's angry as fuck


Bad day when daddy uses the belt and goes in dry huh? ;)
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doing the lord's labyrinth for the first time ever

why is there such a drastic difficulty increase between everything and this?
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>>166273839
No
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@166274179
Just use leap slam or lightning warp and 2-3 instant life flasks
You can pretty much ignore everything except Izaro
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>>166274179
GGG can't balance worth shit
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>>166274916
>can't balance your game
>release a separate console version
What could go wrong ?
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>>166276936
But you have Chris Wilson's personal promise that the console version will not influence the PC version at all and also everything has been developed with console in mind since 2.0 so if you liked it so far nothing will change ;)
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>mfw doing a casual uber lab run and death's door pops out of a silver chest
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How stronk is uber argus
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>>166277291
pretty weak once you're doing red maps I guess
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>>166277390
colosseum daresso was 2ez, so I guess I should be fine?
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>>166277519
ye just don't tank his hits and his ai is retarded he'll just focus on any totem or run around like a retard changing targets all the time too

or if you're tanky as fuck you can just sit there i guess
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>>166277626
but I'm melee pham
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>>166277653
>>166277519
>>166277626
when I facetanked him he hit me for not more than half my life. And I can't even do t16 maps yet. So yeah I guess you're fine.
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Why the fuck are jewels so crazy in pricing , I see turds trying to be sold off for 2 ex.
>>
I just wanna say that CwDT character in Hall of Grand Master are bullshit.
Thanks
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>>166277970
>play chaos build when going into hall for first time
>enemies with CI


Dunno who designed this shit but it's pretty autistic
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>>166278378
>Dunno who designed this shit but it's pretty autistic
The same people who throw their money at GGG.
Every enemy in this map is a build submitted by a supporter.
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Does anyone have any advice concerning beating the ascendancy trials? I'm using a flicker strike build and even at level 70 I can't beat the last stage of the cruel boss in his final form. If anyone stands on a trap then I insta-rip.
And it's a rippy build to begin with. If I run out of crits / mana or hit a lag spike it usually means instant death. I'm trying to streak it through, but fuck me, that last room.
>>
Put an ancestral dildo under his ass
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>>166279023
are you using a proper flask setup and cwdt-immortal call?
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>>166279023
post your tree please
>>
what build with my cospris?
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>>166279374
goo.
gl/
W0qRN6
I'm following a guide.
pathofexile.
com/
forum/
view-thread/
1690231

>>166279365
Yea I have a cwdt-molten shell-immortal call-increased duration set up
However I do not have endurance charges. I have a unique pair of boots that will allow for a second curse to acquire said charges, but I've been super unlucky on rolling the right colour sockets (according to the calculator).
I have a slow heal, instant heal, quick silver, diamond and mana flask. The mana flask is essential against single target.
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>>166279023
I just did cruel (was level 60ish) on a staff flicker build the other day and it went ok, sketchy, but ok. Make sure you have frenzy bound to a hotkey and spam that when you get low so you can keep going fast. If you can keep going fast your leech will stay strong if you're using Poacher's as well. Spam pots and pray. You become stronger the more mobs he spawns as well so hopefully he throws some out there for you. I got a generous one and I was just able to hold down right click and spam pots.
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>>166280076
I'm not using frenzy, I'm using terminus est which generates frenzy charges upon crit
that combined with a curse on hit assassins mark blade vortex and a 31% resting crit rate ensure I always have charges. Not always before I get the power charges up, but that's what the diamond flask is for.
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>>166280059
What really helps in my opinion is a a defensive flask, like a surgeon's granite flask that you always try to keep up.

Other than that, you probably need way more life, so maybe buy a few cheap items with life.

The hammer version of the fight is the hardest, as he can easily one-hit you. Make sure to run out of the ground slam
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>>166280225
Terminus Est has pretty low damage, I guess you could just power through it with basalt, granite, warlords mark and instant-on-low-life flasks.
My 2h flicker-char had no problems with Izaro.
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>>166280059
this build is shit

140% life even in softcore these days is way too little especially for an ascendancy that is all about dmg, you probably have like fucking 3500 hp, without max block/max dodge/evasion you're literally useless vs bosses

And your build has no real way to avoid damage or anything too, the only way it would survive is if you had taste of hate but I doubt you even have one if you can't kill fuckin cruel lab

use rumi's and basalt when you fight him, change all flasks to instant divine flasks then use 1 mana flask


change ur 2nd 6link setup to an ancestral warchief one, totem alone could kill the boss while you run around safely desu

move vaal haste out of your boot setup and put culling strike on leap slam, put blood magic on it instead of inc duration

take out molten shell thing and put vaal haste with ur inc duration in the cwdt

take off abyssus


idk this build is so fucking bad I couldn't cosider playing it it's such a clowny shit build that needs EVERYTHING all together to be able to function at all and then it's nothing special
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>>166280897
I really only have a problem with the traps killing me. The build has no control, so I will just warp onto an enemy on a trap and they will wipe me out.
>>166280975
Damage has never really been a problem. Given that my clear speed is so insane, I have plenty of time to spend against the bosses.
This boss however has traps in the room and I cant portal back for more mana flask charges.
I will warlord's mark when I get the boot sockets right, but until then assassins mark is essential.
>>166281171
2.4k hp, 1.4k armour, 0.8k evasion, and shit resists. I have better gear, but it's all unequipable until I get the sockets right.
>taste of hate
80 chaos, nope

it certainly does need everything working together to function, but the clear speed is insane. 1 shots normals and chains to the next pack.
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>>166281647
Staff guy here, I just did merciless lab with it at 70 with basically the same strat again. I basically held right click till I ended up pulling Izaro over near the portals spawning mobs and stayed there the whole fight.

1 regular 1 instant life flask/2 whatever/1 mana flask

If I took spike damage I hit my instant and just kept my regular flask up the whole time because I basically never ran out of charges with all the mobs around. I just hit 70 and my build isnt optimal yet, 3400 hp but a billion evasion. You wont get 1 shot with that HP at least.
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should i buy a belly of the beast or a rare plate for block gladiator?
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>>166243513
you can cast only one curse unless you have items which let enemies have more than 1 curse.
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>>166280059
>this build
Hold me guys
I can't believe I read this
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>>166281647
>2.4k hp
>shit resists
Yeah, you really want like 3k hp and near max resists for that fight. Just do it later.
And for fucks sake start picking up the chromatic items, you shouldn't have problems with socket colors
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>>166179142
Yeah they're something alright
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>>166280059
you fucked up
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>>166280059
>144% inc max life at 85
>compounded by wearing 3 uniques, 1 of which reduces an elemental resistance and the other vastly increases physical damage taken, ON A BUILD THAT'S UP IN THE BOSS' FACE ALL THE TIME
>cast on hit curse setup on an ability that has to be manually casted
>no fortify anywhere
>no arctic armour on a fucking flicker strike build
>going all the way from duelist almost into witch territory and only picking up a single frenzy charge from the tree on a fucking flicker strike build
>taking the headsman passive when playing a build with zero control of what you're attacking and crazy high physical damage which will kill you in reflect maps no matter what, instead of brutal fervour so you don't have to invest in vaal pact
>fucking molten shell in a world where armour is so fucking weak granite + basalt is mandatory
>sustaining mana via curse application instead of just grabbing some fucking mana leech in the tree and ditching the double curse boots for something useful
clickbait tier build
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>>166283252
obviously i've been farming for them
I need 2 blues, 1 green and a red on 60 strength boots. I also need to 5 socket my new chest piece and then socket it.
But my god these rolls.

>>166284316
I'll get to mana leech. The mana cost of flicker strike isn't that high, and I once had a couple of breach rings that took care of it at least against packs. So I don't imagine it'll be too much of an investment. It certainly does need mana leech rather than mana on kill though.
If it doesn't work when I get all the skills going I'll just use it as a farming character.
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poobirds out

poeg is strictly for hc players
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tfw build doesn't kill minotaur in under 2 mins at lvl 88


hmmmm this dont seem quite right
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lvl to 93+ and get BiS gear and try again, noob

poobirds constantly trying content they're not ready for baka
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how can people suck so bad vs izaro? Had a guy tell me he waits till level 47 before doing normal iz when he can be done at level 32 and now this guy can't do cruel izaro with 2.4-2.5k hp and level 70.
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>>166284893
protip:
http://siveran.github.io/calc.html

use this to find out the cheapest method of crafting colors
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>>166285521
if it's hc it makes sense to overlevel content to mitigate risk

not many builds require ascending to work at lower levels. it's easier/quicker to just rush to merc dried lake and grind to lvl75 and then do all your labs and buy some gear before you start mapping
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6l chest with meh stats, 15 fire res, 90+ life and trash other stuff
or 5l with t1 life and t2 res rolls?
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>>166285808
dunno man I never touch SC and don't get this mentality if i'm overleveled to that degree it makes the game just boring, then again i'm a shitter that hasn't went over level 76 yet.
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>>166285857
Do you need damage or hp ?
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>>166285521
It's a build issue. I can't not stand on the traps.

>>166285634
I said I used the calculator. It estimates 38.6, but I must be at 60-70 by now.
At this point it's probably worth the kick in the teeth that is crafting. Though I need to level the master some more so I can 5 link.

>>166285857
t1 and t2 usefull rolls? sounds like a winner.
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>burned through my last t13/t14 maps
>chisel to 20%, roll max pack size, vaal, all the good stuff
>no returns over t10
good thing progression is totally independent from your ability to clear maps but instead purely dependent on luck and the shitty trading system (which only functions because of a third party site, god I wish the trade site would be shut down like the first 2 weeks of a league just to see the shitstorm going down)
anyway I'm done with this game
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what is your bonus percentage at?
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xdxdxd i just scammed myself wew boiz traded an ex for 32 instead of 42 c like a dumbfuck
welp back to being poor guess im not gettin that gear
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>>166287180
96
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>>166286809
they'll have to do something about the need for a site when the games comes out on console
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>>166286809
I find that hard to believe
just go buy like 20 shaped strand maps and you'll see you will end up with far more than 20 red maps in the end

If you're starting off with like 5-10 maps then no shit it's easy to reach 0 because with bad RNG you can end up with no maps, but if you begin with 20 red maps there's no way you end up without any maps in the end, especially if you use sextants and quality/pack size them it's impossible. You can get 1 sextant mod that gives like 6 maps per run for 3 uses, just no way you can run out of them.
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>>166287180
100
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Oh man oh FUCK OH SHIT I wanna play some PATH OF EXILE you stupid faggots god DAAAAAAAAMMMMMNNNNN
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>>166277257
they've been making content with consold version in mind since forsaken masters actually
game has been utter shit since then too not counting a few should have been fixed ages ago technical failures that got fixed
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>>166287180
I can chain strands no problem with 75
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>>166277257
>the console version will not influence the PC version
It's saddening to see that some people genuinely believe that, especially when time and money already went to the development of the console version instead of the PC one.
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Kinda new to the game. What currency items should I feel okay with using on my leveling gear, and which currency items should I be holding onto or stockpiling for later?
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>>166289914
google it too much to explain
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What are some good coop builds I can play with my stepsister?
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>>166289914
Not really worth using anything on your leveling gear, except maybe some chromatic orbs to get your gems right.

And before you do anything, first check the wiki or google how it works. Don't wanna waste dozens of orbs on bad odds.
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>>166289914
I generally only use self found stuff unimproved while levelling.
Then when you're hitting level 50ish start prioritising gear with the right sockets.
At level 60ish you want an economical mix of buying gear with nice rolls, crafting an extra mod, then rolling the right sockets on that gear.
Beyond that idk. Presumably gain slight improvements at any cost.
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>>166289914
do not under any circumstances use chaos, divine and exalted orbs. mirror of kalandra too but statistically speaking you will not even see it.
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>>166285247
>Been playing HC since beta
>Over the past 3 leagues shit has felt way too easy, builds are all dull
>Leveling has been a bore since 2.0 made all acts besides 4 trivial in all difficulties, and then made 4 trivial as well
>Mapping now garbage with no threat outside of content that you can easily ignore, endgame bosses and very few specific area bosses
>Only been able to get entertainment out of build theorycrafting and the tiny trickle of new content basically since 2.1

>Friend starts playing the game a month into Breach
>Been playing straight tanky HC builds since launch so I make a full retard glass cannon build to play SC with them
>Killing fast and dying fast
>Mobs suddenly a threat again
>Positioning suddenly matters again
>Endgame no longer consists of mindlessly running maps until I can do endgame bosses or something disproportionately dangerous compared to the casualized content I'm running kills me in 4 frames

PoE is fucking shit for Hardcore now, find a new game.
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>>166291370
if you want to be a sh*tcrow then you know where to go
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Same as it ever was
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>ignore everything hard
"hardcore is too easy!"

typical
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>>166291662
Hardcore leagues used to put all the difficult content right in your face, now I don't even need to run Breaches until my build trivializes them because the league merge means no true Hardcore content gets added in leagues, just the out of the way risk/reward stuff Shitcrows and Hardcasuals love. Hardcore is a joke now.
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>>166291606
>you know where to go
here?

Not him but hc is a minority
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>>166292382
>hc is a minority
not here you delusional shitbird

bet you thought trump would lose too
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>>166292469
don't bring politics

And yes even here its a minority if you haven't noticed
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wait so does cwdt not work with enduring cry
so i have to link shieldcharge or someshit aw
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>>166292757
110% delusional
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tfw you ignore all the hard content and only farm tropical island to 100 in hardcore because you're a very hardcore gamer

only softcore n00bs do shaper or breaches lol
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>>166292354
>Hardcore leagues used to put all the difficult content right in your face
yeah remember the first week invasion aka searing bond league?? boy I sure do miss it
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166292801
dumb ESLtard
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game has been shit since launch and they've been planning a console port the whole time

achievements from cod
dailies from wow
ah from wow
sterile arena pvp only
best feature of game, races, totally neglected and underdevloped
crafting from wow
auction house from wow (soon)
hardcore totally underdeveloped
real reason they won't give controller support on pc is because they're using it to beta test console content and controllers slow beta testers down
game has xbox 360 tier graphics and runs like shit because pc is a graphical stress test for console
chris wilson only cares about expanding his d2legit.com rmt empire (on console)

yes we know you like these things you are a shit eating casual normie, you don't understand anything, you are entitled and want it now or you're a streamer you already have a viewer base and just want streaming to be easier for your stupid ass
kripp quit because he is a very smart man and could immediately sense the change in tides, also he was likely told of the true situation by the devs

you are cancer and the reason all video games turn into the same homogenized lifeless drivel consumed by the masses.
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>>166290301
Source me up senpai
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>>166293268
I'm at fault for "ignoring" hard content but you aren't for forcing yourself to play Searing Bond, Snapshot, et al. for the short amount of time it was broken? lol ok. Yeah, everyone using rushed, unbalanced skills in the short timeframe where they were broken back before 2.0 is totally worse than the current meta of high tier builds all trivializing the content and the devs just treating it as "Oh, that's intended. Yeah, they're clearing content so fast that we had to nerf EXP? Intended."
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>>166294125
hold on a minute
are you retarded?
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>best feature of game, races
lmao
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166294125
didn't read a single word of your cry essay
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ggg shils in damage control mode
i love it
slurp dat chris wilson cock up console casuals
lol your game is a joke, no better than d3 and so is your life
lmao @ your life right now you scrubs
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>>166291370
I believe 2.1 nerfed act 4. Then ascendancies made A4 even easier.

In hardcore you only play the super OP builds if you want to go into high maps. And they're all energy shield based. If you do a life build like earthquake you're grinding t9-12 for eternity, since the xp difference between a t11-12 map and t15 map is now only 0.6 levels, despite the mobs hitting twice as hard in the t15 and the t15's requiring you a shitton more currency to sustain.
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>>166293268
>>166294230
Difference was back then GGG would nerf searing bond mid league. Right now they do one balance patch and then you have everyone playing 1 build. Everyone on here called it, breach league energy shield + flameblast league. The only wild cards were the new uniques, and that gave us the howa ranger build and a slightly stronger earthquake build with formless inferno.
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>>166294376
stop using my meme you filthy casual
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>born too late to explore the earth
>born too soon to explore the galaxy
>born just in time to see hardcore ARPGs get cucked by casuals
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>>166294808
flameblast has been good since the beginning of poe so that argument is fucking stupid, people have been double dipping and oneshotting bosses for years with it
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>>166295459
Flameblast is what I consider the first sign of everything going seriously wrong so that's a fair concession.
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>>166294230
>>166294808
Except that was not my point at all. Searing Bond was the best thing there was back then and everyone felt bored as shit playing it but now if someone were to break out an epic build using it each and every one of you would suck his cock for "not following the meta." My point is you need to take off your fucking nostalgia goggles, GGG has always been dogshit at balancing the game, at least this way leagues die a bit more than halfway rather than 1 month in at most.
The only part I would agree with you would be mapping being made harder. Not the maps themselves but they should require higher investment to do.
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>>166295385
>never got to play diablo3 when it was hard and just launched
>never was too interested in PoE when it was hard
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>it's a catshitter desperately tries to bait (You)s but everyone ignores his myspace blogshit episode
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(you)
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>>166296459
this is the last cat post>>166285247

that was 3.5hrs ago
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>>166287365
They wont. There will be just xbox.poe.trade
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>>166295903
I never felt I was forced to play searing bond or flameblast when it happened, it was just sort of an anomaly. Now most meta skills with the stamp of HC viable feel like safe, boring, fire-and-forget/hold down RMB builds that try to remove as much thought from the process of doing content as possible. We've moved from dropping a few totems on a boss and then running around until it dies being something clearly wrong that has to be fixed to most of the HC meta being centered on mechanically bland skills and now the difficult content that used to make mechanically bland builds at least somewhat of a challenge is nerfed to bring in more casual players, as if a mode where dying literally doesn't matter wasn't enough to begin with.
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>open trade chat
>peple selling shit worth 15c for 1ex
>people selling shit for 5c for 20c


Do people actually fucking use trade chat? Why the FUCK would ANYONE ever buy from this shithole of a scammer cesspool disgusting fucking place
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>>166297992
no there will be auto trade or mailbox on console probably pc too
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i bought more div cards for the challenge through trade chat than through poe.trade
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>>166299392
>>166295903
Searing bond was boring OP.

Flameblast however wasn't that simple since you needed some very expensive uniques to make it work really well. Rise of the phoenix shield was almost mandatory to deal with reflect mobs, as well as ruby flasks. Cloak of defiance and enough mana regen for arctic armour was also really nice. But once you got to that point of having rise of phoenix shield + enough mana for arctic armour + cloak of defiance it was like playing on easymode.

You would have 88% fire resistance unflasked and 98% flasked. On top of that you had the arctic armor which was really nice physical mitigation and if you had a granite of iron skin you would've had enough physical mitigation for everything (and then you also had the unnerfed immortal call which was just broken, but it wasn't even mandatory due to how good arctic armor was). Arctic armour would cause you to take -190 phys and fire damage or so at max level. This was huge if you were flameblasting a pack.

You also had proliferation which was sooo much better than how it is now. The only time that flameblast was kinda meh was in cruel difficulty since you didn't have anything against reflect packs. Therefore you often levelled with totems or something like that and then respecced the 12-14 nodes into flameblast later on.
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>>166299534
Yes I usually use it to convert currency. Sometimes I see a good deal though.
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whats a good trickster build?
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>>166300437
cyclone cospris

GOD WHY DID I ANSWER I HATE MYSELF
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>>166300437
Lightning Warp totems
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>>166300437
Something that's not ED. Seriously, just play Occultist if you want to play ED.
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diablo 2
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>>166300163
The only thing that was mandatory with flameblast was RotP and you could reach 100% fire res with it easily. People also seem to forget how you could just pick up EB and not have to worry about mana or how you could slap cwdt ec ic id in a 4l and forget about physical damage. Fucking nostalgiafags.
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I'm interested to play an arpg after having played grim dawn. Is poe a good choice for playing solo and creating a build blind or there are better choices?
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>>166301669
>Is poe a good choice for playing solo and creating a build blind or there are better choices?
no this game is a p2w shitfest
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>>166301669
Do you happen to have an xbone?
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if only PoE was a free to play game so you could just download it and try it out


you too can be a global chat shitter asking questions like "where to get tornado shot" and "what is whirling blades not working"


I wish there was some kind of search engine online to find out all of these questions
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>tfw poe's failure leads the d2jsp diablo 2 revival
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>>166301985
no i have a pc and a ps4 but i would prefer playing with mouse and keyboard
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>>166302068
is the d2 HD remake still habbening
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>>166301669
you can play solo but you will have to trade. your first character will inevitably be utterly shit. just download it and play around, try and get as far as you can and see what you like, then look up a guide for it. don't mind the p2wshitters or people memeing you about the xbone release announcement.
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xd
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I really really like diablo 3 type difficulty where everything is not balanced around logout macros and spike damage
not even trying to bait
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>>166302351
>not even trying to bait
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>>166302060
I-it's 2017!! Y-y-you shouldn't have too tab out to play the game, b-baka!
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>>166301591
True. Cloak of defiance + arctic armor + eldritch battery used to be a humongous powerboost though.

I didn't forget about that I did mention old immortal call. Mind over matter used to be waay stronger in the past.

You still needed purity of fire though, it depends if we're talking about the patch where the marauder tree used to give +% max resistance. Rise of the phoenix + purity + marauder already gave you 90%, then with a flask 100%. Even without that I believe you could get to 98% without any flask.

The difficulty in hardcore was if the game decided to desync you into something that oneshot you. Dno why people are so nostalgic about that lel.
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>>166177048
i actually prefer most of the ui design, if the bottom half retained its old placements and a mix of styles of the old and new desu senpai
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>>166302426
xD
no but honestly in poe your hp goes 100%-5%-100% in no time. In d3 healing and monster damage are curves not spikes.
its still a shit game
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>>166302351
I like how nothing completely oneshots you and you have time to react and the gameplay is generally slower


I don't like everything else
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>>166302185
they recently hired people to work on fixing diablo 2 and have recently released patches for it so anything is possible
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toon, it's what your exile is, deal with it
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>>166302945
I miss the huge MTX SHOP button. I would like to constantly be reminded to buy GGG points for extra stash tabs because otherwise you have no inventory space beyond level 90 for trading.
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post somemorb
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Does Self-Flagelation works like I think it will in The Putrid Cloister? I'm considering my options to run that map.
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>>166302351
It's super boring though. If GGG actually made regular monsters challenging and bothered to balance out AoE skills rather than making everything AoE the game would play better and there would be less need for oneshots. At the moment the difficulty lies mostly in 4 mobs attacking you at the same time with all extra damage mods on them so they do a ridiculous amount of spike damage.

It isn't so bad if you're levelling 1-75 but in maps with the damage mods on them it becomes a serious issue. Another problem in maps is that if you have for example +80% extra fire damage on a map, that elemental damage benefits much more from this. Because elemental damage is tuned for 75% reduction, which means that 2.6-3k fire damage for one skill is actually 10.4-12k damage. So 80% extra is an 80% increase. With physical if the hit is 3000, it is only 2400 fire damage which gets mitigated to 6000. But in the elemental damage's case it's 9.6k increase which gets mitigated to 2400 fire damage.

This makes elemental damage much more dangerous than physical due to how the mods work.
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http://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=169

lively trade scene
means alive game
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Fact: hardcore is more difficult than softcore.

These fucking reddit cucklords are so god damn oblivious I can't believe it. So are you if you think any differently. This game should provide greater challenges/rewards for hardcore players, this fucking cuck softcore is the same bullshit, probably got a trophy for coming in second place and now they think everyone is equal.
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>>166305093
shitbirds are no different than these women protesting trump
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>>166305093
>I should get my cock sucked for willingly chosing the harder option
you're supposed to enjoy the challenge retard
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fact: it was harder to complete 5 out of 8 challenges in nemesis than it is to complete 36 out of 40 in breach
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>>166305359
>>166305251
nah stay bad softcore cucklords

probably anime watchers anyway like the majority of this thread
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>>166305507
>I CLICKED THE RED BANNER IN CHARACTER CREATION PAGE, I DESERVE MORE REWARDS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
kys retard
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Me and buddy starting totally fresh on HC breach, and neither of us have played for more than two years.

What two builds should we run?
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>>166305507
I would play hardcore if I didn't play on wifi. No way I'm willing to lose progress because of a DC that comes out of nowhere.
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>gaming on wifi

holy SHIT
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What's better for an EA ignite based build? A 6L quill rain or a +2bow/+1 all 6L bow?
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>>166305986
any skill with blade in its name
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>>166306053
>had a period where my only way to access our router was to use a usb wifi adapter
>some days it would be fine and others i'd have 2000ms+ ping spikes every few minutes
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>>166304787
wait what 100% extra damage as element is not 25% more damage after resists?
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>>166306116
Not really.

>>166306348
This happens. Sometimes it's an on-off thing.
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>>166306072
quill for trash +3 for bosses
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>>166305093
>Game gradually becoming more and more tailored for scrubs that can't deal with difficult content that isn't optional and wrap themselves up in fifty different layers of defense while their totems play the game for them off the edge of the screen
>Softcore is the league that is getting cucked

No, John. You are the cuckolds.
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>>166304560
Depends on how you think it works. Probably "yes".
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hc vs sc: nobody cares anymore because it's shit
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>>166306568
It is.
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>ZiggyD took Point Blank on his HoWaA ST Ranger
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>>166308456
if you have high enough dps for packs that you are one shotting everything anyway, why not do it for bosses when you swap in slower proj anyway?
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Can trapper builds map quickly? I've never done a high level one but traps feel so slow...
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just threw 600 chroms in the trash ama
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I'm about to throw 4k chromes into the void, ask the other guy anything
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got offered 7 exalted for my the fiend

this would've been worth it not even a week ago
now exalts are near worthless

what happened?
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>>166311213
the league continued on and also some retarded fags market manipulated and nobody paid attention
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Is lightning coil a good chest for a facebreaker slayer ?
I'm thinking of buying one and prophecy 5linking it
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>>166311329
not anymore, physical damage isn't threatening as elemental damage end game
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>>166305093
it's identical after you get over that initial babbys-first-hc-experience -excitement

also for that reason hc is a lot more inefficient way to play the game
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>>166311437
So I should just spend my cash on a belly ? or save my cash use current 5l and get a decent rare?
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>m-m-m-m-m-m-mmyyy game mode is hh-h-haaaaardeeerr!!!
>wh-wh-*sniffle* wh-why isnt anyone pLAAAAAAYYYYYYIUIIINGGGG ITTT??!!!!
>f-f-uhuh-uhhhhh-fuuucking cuckholds!!!!!!
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>>166311749
belly or crafted 6l are the only two chests I'd consider for life builds currently, save for niche builds that can expand to perfect form and others
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>no kaom's
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>>166311213
exactly a week ago i was fighting other buyers to get fiends for 7.5 or 400c
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hc is more fun than sc

everyone knows this
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>>166312041
implicitly no 2h builds, was responding to a facebreaker guy
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Does evasion suck right now? Is it so bad that going IR is worth it if you get a lot of evasion anyway or is that even more shit?
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>>166312204
Evasion sucked for the last couple of leagues. But its still the only real defensive mechanic for bow rangers...which makes me sad. IR won't help you at all against high phys dmg
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>>166311213
Eve Online rejects hard at work
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>>166312204
IR is as a rule of thumb never worth it unless you're a block build i.e. you already have a layer of avoidance and in some case you might even want to get hit (Aegis, on-block procs)

for 99% of other non-block builds, even having a small amount of evasion that is also scaled by your dexterity is preferable to converting it to armour
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>>166312204
evasion is worthless unless you are doing a qotf build.

otherwise, just get a high life pull, grab acro, and flask like evryone else
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>console version announced
>never appeared on the dev manifesto
>reducing the number of difficulty levels to two
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>>166313359
>>reducing the number of difficulty levels to two
>Game went from 4 difficulties, 2 acts (8 total acts), to 3 difficulties, 3 acts (9 total), to 3 difficulties, 4 acts (12 total)
>wanting 15 fucking total acts
>not wanting 10
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>>166313359
they know it would piss everyone off

a lot of people bought mtx as a thank you for GGG fixing performance issues, and now we know all that money went towards a fucking console port
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>>166313732
So what as they keep releasing new acts after there's only one difficulty they are going to start chopping the older acts? Or are you saying you want the game's development storywise to stop altogether?

Maybe they should then release PoE 2 and make everyone lose all their progress all their microtransactions, how cool would that be? Because if they aren't going to be adding new acts after the 5th one then how are we going to get new areas, new monsters? Either through the random maps which seems like fucking retarded idea of putting your new content behind a RNG wall or they are going to stop adding this kind of content altogether and we are only going to see new skill gems and uniques being added.

Either way they spent money towards making PoE more like Diablo 3 when the game was praised for being the exact opposite.
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>>166314224
(You)
enjoy, retard
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>>166314538
No arguments? Alright.
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>>166314224
>Or are you saying you want the game's development storywise to stop altogether
False dichotomy. They can add content without it extending the leveling grind.
See:
>Atziri
>Labyrinth
>Shaper questline
>Prophecies
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>poe on xbox
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Is making a build centered around bleed feasible

Can all the stationary bosses be knocked back to get the extra 50% bleed?
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>paying a sub fee to play f2p game
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>>166314825
>labs
>the most loathed content on the entire game
>shaper
>only alternative to mindless map grinding
>prophecies
>literally a modifier so the task of restarting the storymode with every character on every new league doesn't become more boring than Diablo3 seasons.

None of this is actual new linear content, actual new levels of difficulty something to break the monotony.

It's like the masters expansion, it's fun but it should be added BESIDES a new act, by itself it's just another xp bar to grind with the further complication of the RNG involved.
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>>166315856
>None of this is actual new linear content
That's kinda the point.
Linear shit that you have to do on every character is boring as fuck.
Yeah some people dislike lab but at least it has different things supporting izaro each time, and you can do it whenever you want so you can always overlevel it if it's going to be a problem.

Why do you think a longer leveling process is a good thing? Most people treat leveling as something to minimize/avoid.
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>>166177048
>>166316697
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Did a new meme build come up using Abyssus, bought a 43% for 12c couple of weeks ago now 49% are selling for more than that
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The increased physical damage taken roll isn't the important roll
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