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>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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ggg and chris wilson are retarded and if you disagree kys
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forgot your cat picture
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I just want to read some official comments from those multiple grandmaster/eternal/diamond whatever $10,000 supporter pack purchasers how they feel about spending all that money on a console game.
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>>166062139
>>>/tv/
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>>166062139
>>>/r9k/
>>166062216
>>>/tv/
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>My brother is almost 23 years old, and he and I still live with our parents. Here is a list of some of his characteristics:
>He collects disability from the government and spends it solely on cigarettes and beer. (He has no identifiable disability besides being lazy and antisocial by choice.)
>He collects food stamps, but is too lazy to go to the store to buy food for the family. When he can get a ride, it's usually only Hot Pockets and Coca Cola.
>He does not leave the house unless it's 1 block away to 7-11, or he gets a ride from one of our parents.
>He does not wash his hands after using the bathroom.
>He does not flush #1s.
>He showers about twice a month.
>He almost never changes his clothes, and even less often washes them, so he wears the same t-shirt and sweats with stains and holes all over them. He smells like a bum.
>He "doesn't trust" the power outlets in his room, so he runs an extension cord through the house. The rest of us have tripped over it so many times now, but every time we tell him to use his room outlets he screams at us until we let up.
>He plays Path of Exile ~12 hours a day, and watches Netflix Instant Watch and YouTube for the rest of it.
>He did not graduate high school, and he has never had a job, and he has no interest in getting a job (because of his government money).

Which one of you is it?
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>>166062139
3 minutes into frozen and chill and she gives you this look, what do?
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so Core is done. Now jsut how hard is the Phoenix map compared to that? I found 2.
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>>166062216
I don't think I'll ever understand Charan's very specific form of autism. He's been playing since closed beta. He has given over 10,000 dollars to GGG, probably more. He has never made it past level 70. He has entered maps with about two characters, ever, despite having played the game for so long.
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So is howa the real deal or is it just a pretty good build that's overly expensive and not worth bothering with
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>>166062596
>He has never made it past level 70. He has entered maps with about two characters, ever,
So he enjoys the story part of the game rather than the end-game grind, what's wrong with that?
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>>166062543
Lucky sod

All guardians are harder than Malachai though
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>>166062596
Depends how he plays anon. I also play since beta and well... in last thread, it was the first time ever that I did a core map....

Usually I spend the league getting to maps, doing a few then rerollign something else, on and on for the whole league. So I've seen a few high maps but not all the T15-T16 yet, and I FEEL like rerollign already just for variation but I want to do 1 of each before the league ends
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>>166062673
top 5 most broken builds currently
destroys everything from normal level 22 to shaper
also it's spelled HoWaA you moron
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>>166062673
its pretty good, get on the bandwagon before it gets nerfed/breach is done
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>>166062864
>everyone else calls it howa
>You call it Howaa
>sperg out at people that call it howa because you have autism
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>yfw the statues in act 3 have their dicks chopped off for 3.0.0
CAN'T HAVE THAT IN A CHRISTIAN CONSOLE
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>>166062704
Because he has 25000 posts on the official forums

Because he still plays in every single league, plus standard, plus hardcore. By all accounts, he seems to play quite a lot, but he just replays normal, cruel and merciless over and over again.

There's a great deal wrong with it. Okay, everybody is allowed to find fun whatever they like, but seriously what the actual fuck
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>>166063079
Have you paid attention to the trailer?
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Playing Le Mathil build right now with abyssus. What 6th gem should I use, crit multi or faster attacks? I have both 20/20.
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>>166062523

almost all apply to me except the coca cola and hot pocket shit

i dont drink anything carbonated or anything packed or with meat

also i quit smoking tabacco a while ago
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>>166063324
Forgot to mention its BF. Also my offense page.
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They should make the xbox one game 'play anywhere' i wanna play it on my pc with controller
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I need a fun witch totem build, can anyone help?
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>>166063753
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>>166063079
>yfw the statues in act 3 have their dicks chopped off for 3.0.0

First they take our globe waifus, now our dicks. What's next?
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>>166063853
emberwake fire totems

600k dps build on longer fights
150k dps on quick fights
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>>166063853
what's your budget?
if you're poor: flameblast Elementalist
if you're rich: low-life Scourge bladefall Necro
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>>166062596
He's not the only one who has given them tons od money looking at the general discussion there are tons of multiple bit money supporters plus you can hide your supporter status so there's probably more. What I do fine amsuing is how many of them don't seem to understand that the money they've given GGG has been siphoned away this whole time to instead of make a better PC game, make a console game. Many of them don't seem to understand that using their monies to develop a console game since 2014 is probably the reason for every major issue the game has right now.
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What do you guys think about this tree for bf?
I lose like 500 ES or so going over the top for heart of thunder but gain a considerable amount of damage. It's basically like 9.5k ES versus 10-10.5k and then like a 30k-40k dps increase
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>>166064038
>low-life Scourge bladefall Necro
interesting.
Is there any good physical spell beside bladefall? Just find it a bit boring but still sounds good.
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>>166064649
The game has consistently got better over the years?
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>>166064740
http://poeurl.com/0O9 lmao forgot to link
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>>166064812
the other way around
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>>166064769
not really

you want to use the scourge for minion damage double dipping -> ignite or poison -> poison synergizes well with wither which is easy to fit in a totem playstyle -> totems synergize extremely well with commander of darkness -> physical/chaos damage -> bladefall/shockwave -> bladefall scales harder vs single target
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>>166064812
There was no better time in the history of PoE than the closed beta period. It has been all downhill since. If you define attracting more players and fixing technical issues as better than I have a new call of duty to sell you.
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>>166064936
why are you still here
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>>166061958
not liking this
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>>166063853
sire of shards spark
fun fun fun :D
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>>166065265

want to see this crash and burn like i know it will, shill
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>>166065614
flip off faggot
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>level 53
>finally manage to get to labyrinth normal endboss
after about 10 tries
>die immediately
just fuck my shit up
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>>166065707
at least it's something
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>>166065207
I define "better" as:

1) smoother early power progression, skill progression is alos better
2) more streamlined tree progression, clusters are meaningful instead of being random nodes
3) more streamlined act progression
4) a lot more build diversity
5) rework of design limiting aspects of the meta such as easily available single target leech, max block, 95 all resistances, snapshotting, shotgunning
6) class identity with ascendancy, class choice is no longer a cosmetic choice
7) end game not gated by tedious map starvation but actual difficulty
8) t1 uniques no longer worth 50 ex each
9) SSF players have more options to enjoy the game than ever
10) enforced map progression, more options for rewarding end game content (uber lab, maps, atziri, guardians, shaper)

just to name a few improvements that are non-technical
closed beta PoE was shit compared to 2016 PoE, this is factual unless your nostalgia goggles prevent you to think rationally
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>>166065525
Forgot your breast girl pic
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>>166065707
is such a thing even possible
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I just RIPd my second cyclone slayer. I'm slowly realizing life based isn't working for me. 6.2k hp, fort, enfeeble, 6 end charges and flasks made me feel immortal 99.5% of the time, but 3 unlucky hits in a row and you're fucked.
Thankfully I didn't purchase any major upgrades so I still have about 10ex to play with. What are the high speed fotm ES builds. My slayer had 110% move speed and mowing stuff down was fun.

This HoWA keeps being mentioned. BV seems a bit passive and boring. I want something with good feedback. Lacerate has a nice feel to it but can it be built as ES?
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>>166066237
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>>166065981
1. made game easier for casuals
2. tree was never the issue only shitters who didn't know how poe works complained of life meta
3. forced to streamline acts by adding new acts, casualized waypoints
4. making the game easier for casuals =/= build diversity
5. removing valid mechanics rather than making new ones work
6. bloated casual features, main game needs improvement not more shit tacked on
7. lol suddenly your build doesn't work
8. no items are valuable anymore unless you rmt craft them
9. game is easier for casuals
10. no reason to do any of it over maps, total waste of time

everything you posted is casual garbage kys
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>>166066237
*deep breath*
SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
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>>166066206
im new and bad.
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>>166066454
if the game is so casual now... where's your level 100 in hc?
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>>166066661
anything past 90 is nothing more than autism grinding which is where my hc toontoonTOON sits and will remain forever
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Besides PoE, what other hobbies do you guys enjoy? I like manga, started reading Initial D this week
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>>166067031
Staring at the ceiling.
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>>166063493
>BF

kys
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>>166066274
pathfinder CI cyclone you fucking dip
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>>166067031
diablo 2
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>>166067479
Don't bully.
I look into it, thanks.
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>>166065131
do you think that the shock totems would be safer than bladefall for a HC char? Seems fine for CC to some extend
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>>166065207
Desync removal has been great.
>>166066454
I agree with you on multiple points.

But some stuff is connected, due to the game being made easier there is more build diversity because any build can work. In the past this wasn't the case.

The game is good at the moment and I like stuff they added such as labyrinth. I don't think ascendancy classes were needed, they just contributed to skill imbalance. Ever since somewhere in 2.0 they stopped doing nerfs in the middle of a league and the game really went downhill from there since everyone just ended up playing builds that were almost unkillable while at the same time having insane clear speed.

>>166066661
lv 100 in hardcore isn't even prestigious anymore due to darkshrine league, perandus league and prophecy leagues. Perandus and prophecy had easy mode challenges, darkshrine you were stacked with t15 maps which back then gave lv 82 map experience. So you could hit 100 in under a week.
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>>166067031
music films and books
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>>166064740
>>166064871
>pathing all the way to unwavering
>not taking blast radius, arcane focus, written in blood, or melding
>taking accuracy wheels as a non-crit build
>spending 3 points for a jewel socket when you ignore a 2 point socket
is this b8?
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>>166066661
right here mate. im total shit at the game and even i can get 100 playing retard friendly builds.
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>>166068168
don't downplay your achievement, and don't intervene to defend someone else
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>>166068131
I am missing a lot of nodes because I just threw it together to compare two different pathings. It wasn't really the main focus. Also
>not taking unwavering
kek
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Why do girls like paws and ziggyd's girlfriend pretend to like PoE?
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>>166068474
>ziggyd's girlfriend
link?
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>>166068320
a +1 chayula is like 20ex, max. stop being a poorfag.
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>>166068474
Neither for music, nor for video games, nor for poetry, nor for fine art have they any real or true sense and susceptibility, and it is mere mockery on their part, in their desire to please, if they affect any such thing.
This makes them incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything, and the reason for it is, I fancy, as follows. A man strives to get direct mastery over things either by understanding them or by compulsion. But a woman is always and everywhere driven to indirect mastery, namely through a man; all her direct mastery being limited to him alone. Therefore it lies in woman’s nature to look upon everything only as a means for winning man, and her interest in anything else is always a simulated one, a mere roundabout way to gain her ends, consisting of coquetry and pretence.
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>>166068607
Why would I use that over astra when I'm running howa. it should be pretty obvious from the 30int nodes I'm getting that's the point
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>>166067853
>Desync removal has been great
The resync code improvement was enough and wouldn't require a shift away from their design philosophy but they caved in just like on loot tension. I understand why players wanted this so much but do they understand what this means? They don't. So it's just a bittersweet point to me.

>The game is good at the moment
I can't agree. I more or less quit after forsaken masters. I haven't enjoyed what they've chosen to spend time developing and it looks like that trend will continue for good.
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>>166068683
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>>166068704
because you can spend the 10 points you spend getting to Unwavering on int nodes and get the same benefit?
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>>166068873
I'm getting the same benefit going for unwavering though. I pick up a 30int node and convert a bunch of str nodes to int with jewel. Yeah on a normal build it would be shit, but when I'm int stacking going for unwavering doesn't matter much
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poetards????????
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>>166069067
oh look a new player who needs help hahahaha so embarrassing!!! let's screencap it and make fun of it on poeg hahahaha!!
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The only good thing about the stupid console port is that it forced GGG to get off their ass about the shit sandwich that is performance.
Unfortunate it was all because consoles are another shit sandwich.
Thanks for stuttery loading on ssd.
Thanks for 64 bit in 2016.
Thanks for artifacting in direct x 11.
Two shit sandwiches made something, somehow, less shity.
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>water physics
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poe has dailies?
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>>166068967
you convert 40 str to int, so 94 int total for 11 points with a perfect brute force solution. If you have an average astramentis you get 90 int. total of 184 for the astra route. You can get that easily with just taking random pathing nodes, plus a couple bigger bonus nodes that you're just ignoring for no reason, like the witch area jewel socket, deep wisdom, and melding jewel socket.
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>>166069516
the only improvement in performance over the years is when I bought an SSD so loading wasn't 30 seconds for a zone

nothing they've done made it not stutter when there are ground effects, and actually they made it WORSE when you put a bunch of effects(burning) on a bunch of enemies all at once (flameblast)
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>>166070038
>11 points
It's only 8 though. In the build you take that jewel socket no matter what. Again it was just to test the pathing going deep wisdom/arcane focus or going over the top for heart of thunder which is less ES, but more damage. If it was really better to use chayula and not get unwavering people would do it, but they don't if you look at any guide and see other people playing it
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>>166067031
anime, videogames and manga just like any other virgin, reading franken fran currently
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I provided a well-reasoned explanation for why pathing for UW was a mistake and get responded with "nuh uh other people do it this way"

ProjectPT was right. GGG let the sheep in and it's killing the game.
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could anyone here pls help with with the lab?

also, are blessed orbs worth something?
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>>166070842
Go ahead and do a comparison of pathing and gear then for astra with unwavering versus chayula and no unwavering for howa BF with actual numbers instead of just going hurrrr I think it's better. Unwavering will come out ahead. You're just being a fucking retard
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>>166070842
don't care about your pathing but the day PoE died was the day GGG started using reddit as the oficial purveyor of information. this was when they shunned their own forums and started banning people for speaking their mind, also around the same time they started moderatin in game chat. look at reddit right now all GGG apologists. it sickens me.
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I made a tree that pulled 20 int ahead. Maybe if your pathing through the entire upper half of the tree weren't retarded that wouldn't be possible but as it is taking UW is retarded.
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>>166071274
>I did this
>but posts no proof
rlly makes me think. Sure the pathing up top could be retarded
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL QUESTION YOU RETARD
Was is it better to go over for heart of thunder or go under and hit deep wisdom with blast radius and arcane focus. But apparently you have reading comprehension issues
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.>>166071274
>+20 int on the tree
>dont wear an astramentis so -100 int
>total 80 less into

Good job anon, you must be proud
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>>166071124
this game will never go back to being good is it
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uhh..

poetards?
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>>166071541
>implying I wasn't counting astra
http://poeurl.com/0PK
move the brute force from the bottom socket to the top left that he's taking for some reason and spec into the +30 node up there to balance what would've been taken from the bottom socket with 2 saved points, take 2 jewel sockets for +26 rare jewels with other stats too, deep wisdom for +20, and 7 random pathing nodes for a total of 196 int in 11 points, which is better than the 194 a perfect rolled astra would get, and much cheaper.
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Best Jewel Ever
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>>166072056
Oh, and you can still evade, so all those random ass evasion/accuracy wheels are actually beneficial.
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>everyone says game is bad
>Game is more popular, more active and generates more revenue than ever before

I can tell you guys are all great game designers and successful businessman ;)
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>>166069763
ye, they're there so you can grind more grinding in a grinding gear games
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>>166072056
have you considered the potential of using a well rolled amulet with +attr, %es, flat ES, weapon ele, and flat ele?

i dont think you've thought this through. 20 int on an already high flat dmg base is pretty meaningless when you could scale with %ele or some other usefuls stats on your ammy slot
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>>166071642
let's see here

>razor footprint mtx
>legal rmt on garena server
>sjw no chained female hud
>getting to 100 used to be an accomplishment
>no cut-throat, bandit pk was just a tease
>trade improvements will undoubtedly come as a massive console casual overhaul
>still no such thing as permadeath
>all the best players over the years quit
>dailies

nope best to end it all now

>>166072270
i guess mobile games are the best games ever then
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>>166072417
getting +1 curse rare amulets that are good for HoWaA is more or less impossible.
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>>166072569
why would you need +1 curse on a howa build? You use conductivity and discipline.
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>>166070905
>also, are blessed orbs worth something?
currency.poe.trade
Short answer: Not really.
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>>166072684
conductivity eleweak and either temp chains or warlord's mark to taste.
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>>166072861
>reserving 105% mana

retard
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>>166072056
My tree on top with UW astra, yours on bottom with chayula and not UW
Also waste of jewel sockets to get 70+ str on jewels for your gems
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This is what I'm talking about

>tfw you spent thoudands of dollars to support a PC game while the devs were secretly using it to develop a console game
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in addition to water physics, they are working on a full weather system with god rays and cloud simulation
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>>166072956
he outted himself as a troll as soon as he started talking about running 3 blasphemies along with discipline anon. Don't worry, he's an idiot
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>>166072956
>>166072056
oh and to equal the passives I could get the +30 str node by your brute gem and toss one in there too because I have 1 more jewel socket than you
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>>166072485
>Mobile games are best games ever

What's are you trying to refute with that statement? Is GGG a successful company that has a huge player base that enjoys their game.

You fucking retards need to realise that just because this game isn't the way you want it doesn't make it bad. It just means you have a very selective opinion and hate anything that's different. Learn to understand that the world ain't going to conform to your fucking autistic pov and enjoy what you got.
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>>166073062
Wasn't really paying attention but is there anything substantial to this argument or is it literally just "REEEEE dirty console peasants can't play with my toys"?
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>>166073062
i'm glad so many ggg cuckporters are mad at this
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The game will be fine you fucking autistic faggots
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>>166072956
the one on top is definitely NOT your tree, given that it's 105 points instead of 106. Check the tree you posted again, lol.

I don't know where you fucked up but this is what I got when I put it all in, skipping the jewels that are the same either way. +2 int my way.
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>>166073252
nobody is saying anything like that just that GGG are deceitful scumbags no better than any other low tier f2p dev. may as well make the game p2w while they're at it because their ethics may as well no longer exist.

>>166073318
most of them are in denial/protect investment mode
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could someone pls help me with the lab?
you can have all my chaos orbs
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>>166062523
eh
i have a job, didnt graduate, play poe a fuckload for like 2 days straight when i level a new character then stop for a week
theres nothing around where i live besides a pub and bakery so i just buy beer
i wear my clothes too much and dont shower enough but when shit gets greasy or smelly ill wash if only so i wake up and dont feel like shit

your brother needs a new hobby or to be thrust into a small job somewhere like i was. once he gets some fulfilling work even if its not much his attitude will change for a few days or a week and thats when you need to instill new habits like going for a walk in the morning or keeping a good sleep schedule
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>this entire thread
holy shit you retards just put on skyforths goddamn you're all retarded
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>>166073702
Why is everyone saying they are deceitful? Did they ever mention that they will not bring the game to console?
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dust = settled

all further back and fort about the issue is POINTLESS

ALL EVIDENCE SO FAR = The game in general, including PC version, will and is greatly benefiting from the efforts made to port it console.

Chris' own words support this.

Do any official statements support the counter-argument? No

Any certifiable industry expert supporting the counter-argument? No

Only virgin NEETS.

This is a no-brainer then.
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>>166073565
http://poeurl.com/0P1
This tree I made still better than yours so neck yourself. Have fun wasting all your jewel sockets for + str
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>>166073909
>solicit donations from the fanbase with every update for all your hard work
>presumably for PC game since supporter packs always coincide with updates
>don't bother telling the supporters they've been secretly using their money to fun a console port FOR THREE YEARS

In what world is that not being deceived?
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>>166074227
>donations to a company BUT they cant be used to grow the company
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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who take unwavering stance instead of BiS boots
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>>166074390
yeah, and get this
the have to use orb of storms + power charge on crit
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>>166074227
Donations are just that, donations

At no point does GGG solemnly claim something along the lines of "WE AT GGG PROMISE TO USE YOUR MONEY FOR NOTHING ELSE BUT THE PURPOSE OF DELIVERING THE EXACT GAME THIS VOCAL MINORITY DEMANDS", it's THEIR game, THEIR company, YOUR donations, you're entitled to absolutely NOTHING, not even the MTX your purchase but never own
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>>166074227
Just because you give money to a private company doesn't mean they need to tell you shit. You gave money to GGG, not PoE. They could have used that cash on hookers and cocaine. They probably have.
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>>166074390
BIS boots for builds that don't use power charges
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>>166074627
>stun immunity
>reduced mana reservation
there's something in it for everybody, senpai.
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>>166074792
Yeah no INT on them for builds that stack INT :^)
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>>166074792
it's not stun immunity but higher stun threshold
you can still get stunned (and die) with skyforth
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>>166068168
How well does pathfinder work post-nerf? Can you keep vinktar up 100%?
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>>166074227
fucking full retard
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>>166074826
They free up passive points to spend on more INT (^:
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what can I use before void battery

fire dmg
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>>166074792
>blood magic RT build
>no mana
>doesn't reserve except for FREE from essence worm
>can't crit
checkmate, skycucks
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>>166074340
>>166074538
>>166074572
REALLY? IS THAT REALLY YOUR FINAL FUCKING ANSWER KID?

Then riddle me this you stupid fucking piece of shit: If this was such a good idea and totally sound, THEN WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL THE SUPPORTERS THEY WERE INTENDING TO USE THEIR MONEY TO DEVELOP A CONSOLE PORT AHEAD OF TIME?

ITS A BIG FUCKING DEAL MORON. This isn't a small detail you forgot like oh we're gonna rebalance freezing pulse or whatever. This is an entire fucking game for another platform that you cannot presume the playerbase even has a system to access! And you're taking their money to fund it without telling them.

That's the most deceitful shady bullshit business practices their is. Developers get crucified for not including a mere feature in their game much less TAKING ALL THE MONEY THEY'RE GIVEN AND USING IT TO DEVELOP AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GAME.

I've barely even given GGG any money and I'm mad how big of shit eaters you all are. Holy fuck get GGG's dick out of your larynx and wake the fuck up.

Wait this can't be, something doesn't add up oh that's right: You all have sunk so much money into this game already that all you can do now is defend their actions. You're hopelessly trapped. Anything they do now you must fully support lest the masses catch wind of this CATASTROPHIC FUCKING BLUNDER.
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>>166075879
>ITS A BIG FUCKING DEAL MORON
it really isn't, reddit-kun
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>>166075879
where'd you copy this from lol
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>maybe if I get really, really, really mad and put some words in caps for emphasis, I'll come across as someone with the hint of a legitimate point instead of a rambling sperglord
oh im laffing
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>>166075879
>I've barely even given GGG any money
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>>166075879
I actually started playing last week and never given them a dollar. I still think they have done nothing wrong.

And if this isn't bait, holy shit you are mad lol
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>>166070480
Fran is cute! CUTE!
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poe shills general

come talk about how taking all of the players money to develop a game for a system they don't play without telling them is perfectly fine and nothing is wrong and totally kosher. and that it's perfectly sensible to not tell them about the console port for three years all while collecting the money to make it.
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>>166076343
She's not even human, you freak
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>>166076415
What did he mean by this
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>>166076381
GGG never promised you anything

it's hilarious how you think giving them any amount of money, whether $1 or $10k means you own any part of them or have any say in the decisions they make

this isn't how the real world operates, kid, stop throwing a tantrum like a spoiled little brat who didn't get the christmas present he wanted
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>>166076381
>taking

donations
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>>166076645
>GGG never promised you anything
Not being promised anything would be better than extorting funds for another purpose than being advertised as.

>>166076650
>donations
For an intended purpose. Like taking donations for the homeless but using it to feed your fat ass. You degenerate trash.
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>>166076793
donations for mtx which you received, idiot
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>>166076907
>To support PoE
>What is PoE
>A PC GAME YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER
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>>166076793
"We're making this game. Give us money if you like it or want to feed your addiction or buy ugly cosmetic skins."

is about the extent of the "advertisement," coming out of the woodwork with some fake outrage at the new shiny thing GGG developed on the side is ridiculous

grow up
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>>166077045
What part of

> Thanks to your generous contributions, we were able to pay for the content and server costs of Path of Exile and several expansions. Over fourteen million gamers have enjoyed Path of Exile and many have supported us by purchasing supporter packs and microtransactions. This support is greatly appreciated. It covers not only our day-to-day development costs but also the development of future expansions.

DOES YOUR DENSE SHILLING SHIT EATING STINKING BEHIND NOT UNDERSTAND?
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>>166072485
>Defending current trading """""mechanics"""
xD i too love going on non-functional third party website to look for items that I want to buy
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>>166077141
>non-functional

?
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>>166077138
how does this even begin to constitute false advertising rofl kid are you off your meds?
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>>166076968
>>166076793
>>166077138
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>>166077370
I don't care what you call it. GGG are shit bags and I'm going to shit on them forever. Enjoy being a permanent part of my shit list.
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>special white background and insanely loud sound for goddess div card
>oh fug

>1 alch on poetrade
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>>166077484
make it your life mission if that gives you purpose in life lmao what do I care I'm not your daddy
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>>166077484
you're nobody to me
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Why don't you aspies just play the fucking game and if you no longer find the game enjoyable or challenging, stop.
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>tortanic 2.0: maiden voyage to wraeclast
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If making a console version was something the supporters wanted, why didn't they bother telling them about it cause ya know where I'm from, those kinds of things are called a, "selling point" and if it's not a selling point, it's not something you want people to know because it's not likely to get money from them, then you don't do it. Not sure what kind of inbred buttfuck your cousin neck of the woods you grew up in but this is basically the same line of thinking used throughout the entire business world.
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>I am a PC PoE player and I support giving my money away for a game I'll never play because I'm a gay retard and suck Chris's dick every day
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>>166075035
I haven't played Pathfinder since then so I have no idea.
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I support GGG 200% they never let me down even though I didn't always benefit from their decisions
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I also support the console port if only because it brought many catshitter tears, pure comedy gold
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I non ironically pay for games i'll never play and fall victim to the stupidest logic one can possibly devise
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Sounds good, better than shit talking a game you don't enjoy but unironically play for years in the dead general dedicated to it on a tibetan flute whistling board (all of this for FREE)
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>>166077512
>fireworks in the sky
>parade starts marching by
>i'm lifted up and carried on a throne over to my new drop
>somebody brings stairs over
>another a red carpet
>flowers are dropped around my feet as I check out my new item

>its another carnage heart onyx amulet
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>>166075035
just barely, but you're better off not bothering with vinktar now and using other, better flasks instead.
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>>166078072
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>>166079331
>other, better flasks instead
>better than vinktar
What's better than a vinktar for BV? There aren't really any good sources of spell leech against bosses.
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>ABLOOABLOOABLOO MUH GAME IS GETTING A LARGER PLAYERBASE AND MORE EXPOSURE WAAAAH
>MUH DONATIONS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE USED ON THE PC VERSION OF THE GAME NOT BY GGG TO EXPAND AND GROW
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>>166078054
>>166078054
>>166078054
>>
>ironically rephrasing a perfectly sensible statemente

oh yeah it's cool now to defend fuck your cousin inbred hick logic i forgot sorry
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>>166079625
deaths, taxes, and catshitter shitting up the bed in poeg and frothing at the mouth with every GGG announcement

get used to it
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this game in its fans are swimming so deep in shit that they have actually began lapping it down
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great analysis
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Will my rain of arrows trap proc bleed on targets if my bow has bleed on hit?
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anyone wanna start a list up of gamertags for the xbone guild
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>>166079469
If you go for the chaos/poison package (which you should because FREE poison) you get pretty solid leech from atziri's. My flasks are Sin's, Atziri's, ToH, Chalice, and Basalt rolled for the content I'm doing, adrenaline if it's easy, immunity based on the area otherwise.
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where's your warding
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leveling an es based build with a build that has an awkward non es based path is actually cancer

I have 2k hp in merc and everything is oneshotting me but i'm too lazy to gear up because trading takes so fucking long I could be in dried lake by the time I finish trading anyway

pointless
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get gud scrub
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>tfw I hit merc dried lake at level 55 and have to go back to cruel for a bit
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>>166080790
just farm docks instead
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>>166080821
Is that a good farming spot? Thanks I'll check it out
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>>166080884
docks was dried lake before dried lake existed
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>>166080790

I always do a few extra runs of easy zones to keep myself within at least 4 levels of the area.
The pit run before Daresso's arena wp is a good one. Linear, dense mob packs, lots of blues. Actually thats probably the only one. I run it 3-4 times each difficulty and find it keeps me reasonably close so I can head straight into dried lakes.
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I've never seen a fanbase get fucked so hard by a dev before in my life and not only get totally robbed blind but take it like a champ and ask for more
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pour it all out in d3g
we don't give a shit about your inner feelings
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first time ever doing Atziri, decent drops or shit?

also does it matter which form you kill as long as its not the mirror one?
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stockholm syndrome general
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>>166081709
fire one cant be ignited
thunder arm one cant be shocked
spear thrower is the best for every build
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>>166081709
>first time doing Atziri
>he says with an Atziri's Promise in his belt
so you like using cheap tactics to defeat your opponents huh?
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>>166081789
>tfw I try to quickly attack the first one that isn't mirror to keep my leech up and in panic I destroy the mirror one and kill myself
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>>166081789
Ah, yeah I went in blind and didn't really know a single thing other then dont hit the mirrors

which I still did by accident because there was a flameblast under the one I was hitting so I moved away to dodge it and kept cycloning and rip'd to the mirror

I actually did that twice, fuck me Im retarded
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>>166081709
pure shit
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>>166082101
shameful

I killed Atziri for the first time in hardcore without any prior softcore practice
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>>166061958
Idea for a gem

Totemic Targeting
Its a single target skill that applies a debuff. The debuff causes totems to do increased damage to that target, as well as focus attacks on that target if possible (IE if a totem is using scorching ray, the totem will aim the ray at that target if it is in range). Only one target can have the debuff at a time.

Increased levels will increase the percent damage. Make it a red gem, possibly blue.

Thoughts?
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>>166082360
horrible idea
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Do the int rolls on crystal belts from essence roll within their tiers? I just want to make sure in case I'm about to ruin my belt with divine
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>>166082219
any better? 2nd kill
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>>166082396
why though
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>>166082795
yes
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>>166082810
stop blog posting nobody cares
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>>166082874
totems are already too good
you're asking to make them even better and completely remove the one downside they might have which is unfocused targeting
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>>166082810
hope you picked up that mortal hope
>>
Josh: I loved them so much...
Alex: You loved who?
Josh: The Girls of Madam Camae's Filipino Palace...
Alex: You've been spending our rent money on Filipino hookers?
Josh: They're not hookers, they're massage therapists.
Mover #2: Yeah, they'll massage your cock for money.
Mover #1: There is a word for that... I think it's hooker!
Josh: You're a hooker!
[movers throw their stuff down and stare at Josh]
Alex: Whoa guys.
Yuri: Alex I make you special deal, I'll give you five minutes to grab all the shit you don't want thrown out, but if you take one extra minute, my friends will take your testicles and remove them, through your anus!
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>>166082810
not bad, kid
now do it on hardcore
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>>166083184
What emotion is this gif supposed to convey?
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>>166082985
I'd prefer if more people blogged about shit they are enjoying in the game rather than people just bitching and acting like autists arguing over stupid shit
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>>166082985
I was only planning on the two posts

thread seemed to be filled with some serious autism so I figured some blogshit would maybe distract from it a bit

plus I had a legit question and people are more likely to respond if you include a pic in general from my experience
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nobody takes the massive log sized barnacle and spike covered dev dildo like poe fanboys
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yo

so my brother has his birthday tomorrow and i wanna get him something for this game, cuz he's obsessed with it

i understand they don't do gifting microtransactions in order to avoid p2w - props for that

however, i heard the game is on steam as well. is it possible to get a big steam gift card and for him to be able to use to get shit in the game through steam?
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>go to sell a carcass jack that dropped
>1 chaos

jesus christ
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>>166083773
dude just give him cash money
don't be that faggot giving gift cards
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>>166083835
This, best gift ever is money, so they can spend in on whatever the fuck they want, not only that but you also get less work on the gift, 2 birds 1 stone, why is people still gifting material shit is beyond me. You'll never know what someone truly wants even if you live with them for 50 years.
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>it's okay that we didn't tell them we're raping them
>how else would we get away with it if they're already screaming?
>do you think they want to be screaming before being raped?
>if we didn't care about our rape victims then we would tell them before raping them
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>>166084312
Fuck off memer
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you wanna know what rape feels like, consider what blizzard have done with d3 even though d2 fans supported the franchise for over a decade, and to a lesser extent what they've done with sc2 even though they had the most loyal fanbase ever with the brood war fanbase

ggg look like fucking saints in comparison
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>>166084503
Fuck off GGG
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>>166084609
>HURR YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE GGG

I wish I actually was GGG so I could laugh at your assdevastation
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>>166084609
forgot your cat picture
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>didn't play poe today
this might be the real end of the league for me
anyone want my stuff on bhc
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It's amazing how hard poe fanboys are getting fucked right now and they're just taking it and asking to be passed around the room

They literally took your money they said was for supporting PoE and made a different game you will never play with it while claiming it's for the best yet not bothering to tell you. Do you just like enjoy being the world's biggest cuck?
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>cuck
only millenials and /pol/tards use that word
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>>166083835
>>166084029
its the thought of the someone took the time to select that gift

>cash
only poorfags need handouts
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>their build name as their character name
gets me everytime
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>>166085373
>hurr its the thought that counts

Yeah nice socks you got me there, so thoughtful I have no words.
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>>166083773
yes
if your bro uses the steam client then a giftcard there can be used to purchase the ggg points
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>>166083835
>>166084029
giving money is the laziest of gifts, it literally says "i just dont care enough to try and come up with something that you might like, so here's some cash, buy whatever you want cuz i can't be bothered to put in a little bit of extra effort"

not that gifting a gift card is a huge effort, but it does show that at least i am aware and care about what interests him

fucking unbelievable that i have to explain that shit, but what did i expect, i'm on fucking 4chan

ok so can someone just fucking confirm if steam gift cards can be used to buy shit in poe?
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>>166085373
then buy a gift and not a gift card, faggot
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i remember when last christmas i was all alone with no one to celebrate

in that dark time, poe was all i could hold on to
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>>166085475
>gee anon thanks for the 8 bucks ill go buy a big mac combo i guess
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>>166085480
sorry, replied before seeing your post, thanks

>>166085475
your autism is fucking palpable dude
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>>166085497
this is actually how the female mind works
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>>166085497
The only time you should be handing a gift is to a fucking children, like a toy or something, because they are easily enjoyed by whatever fuck you give them.

Grown people hate material gifts, specially those related to clothing, not only you get shit you didn't want, you probably will have a hard time wearing it cause it's not your specific size, nor your favorite color, etc.

Gifting money ensures you can buy whatever the fuck you want with it, only that person knows himself better than anyone else.
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>join this guy to do cruel lab
>he is dead weight the entire time and nearly dies to traps over and over again
>2nd izaro fight
>he and one of the others die almost instantly
>i just tp out
>"i thought one of you said you could solo this, and yet here we are"
>drops group

So the guy literally created a party to get carried, is dead weight the entire time, gets himself killed by izaro, and then complains at everyone else. And he doesn't even know the difficulty increases with each member.

And he was 62, playing a ground slam marauder, that couldn't scratch the mobs.

This is the first genuinely retarded player I've come across
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>>166085649
>gifts suck cause people cant buy XXXXXL size i need
>why cant I just get cash so I can buy more burgers
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>>166085592
>gee anon i have no creativity to know what to do with this you gave me so let me maymay with some food analogy
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>>166085578
holidays are for faggots
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>>166085649
I think material gifts are fine. I just really hate giftcards. The whole meme where you need to spend it in one place. Oh no you got a $100 giftcard but you wanna buy something that's 105$ Guess you gotta buy something for cheaper and then have leftover on the card or throw random shit in the cart you don't want just to spend it
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>>166085505
he's literally told me that he'd like to get some extra stash place or whatever the fuck there is in that game, and i just want to get him something i know he'll have use for, hence the gift card, you fucking autist

goddamn, is it game that has such an effect on people, making them bitter little shits?
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>>166085751
>more food analogy because i'm retarded

Glad to know that's what you like people to gift you anon, but stop projecting it so hard.
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>>166085762
says the fucking guy who used socks as a fucking example of a thoughtful gift
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>>166085618
t. a virgin
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>>166085363
and when a poe fanboy gets cuck'd by ggg
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>>166085867
desu I like socks
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>>166085867
thoughtful gift to you is anything that doesn't relate to money itself, so I can use another clothing material shit and you wouldn't be able to refute it either.
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>>166085748
Unfortunately, I've run into a few retarded cretins just like that.

I just assume they are some dumb third worlder, barely capable of forming coherent thoughts.
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>>166085865
I'm sorry to hear that someone gifted you some clothes and it traumatized you for life, ill be sure to only send cash money for your birthday
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>>166085748
>ground slam
based mathil babies
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>I'm okay with being cuck'd by GGG in the past but I won't support them in the future
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How much are you paying to play PoE on a monthly basis again? Oh right... it's free to play.
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>I didn't know I was being cuck'd by GGG, I know now and will continue to pay to get cuck'd some more in the future
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>>166062596
that's almost exactly how I play

>playing since 2012 closed beta
>max char is 82
>keep rerolling chars for eternity
>going through normal/cruel and merciless over and over
>once I reach maps, it feels pointless and I get bored very quickly
>attempted Atziri ONCE, got reck, never again despite having a few sets
>mostly only reach low level maps, played in very few mid level ones, never ran a red map
>want to do my own thing, never follow build guides
>my builds are fucking HORRIBLE (compared to videos I see of people wrecking shit in moments and face tanking shaper and what not)

the worst part is I know it
I hate the arpg genre but I can't leave PoE, ever, just like I couldn't leave D2 before it came along
>>
don't ever lose your way, poeg
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>>166062523
>26
>on welfare, spend on vidya occasionally, insane misanthropist and agoraphobe that literally gave up on life, anything that requires the slightest amount of effort is a huge NOPE
>low hygiene, hate showering, never brush teeth
>I collect hentai and have a hard time keeping up with it
>everything sucks, including video games. I mostly sleep and aimlessly browse random shit on 4chan and youtube
>tried college, quit because of no interest, got a job, got fired for incompetence, tried private college, quit because too hard, tried private teacher, quit because I disliked what I was doing, I want to die but parents keep me alive and I'm too pussy to try again, still regret surviving my previous attempts
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>>166075879
>I've barely even given GGG any money
Meanwhile I gave them ~300$ (not a lot but still substantial for me) with two things in mind:
- I'm supporting them, lvoe the game.
- I'm gettign some mtx/tabs/etc. out of this
The rest is in their hands. They do what they can and want. If they decide to invest in a console port its their choice and I have no say.

You aren't entitled to anything, you aren't a shareholder.
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>>166067031
>other hobbies

trying to not kill myself because I'm a wageslave, I dont have time for hobbies
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>>166088180
Stop trying to glorify your misery by adding fluff.
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>new water animation

TTHANK YOU XBOX TEAM FOR IMPROVING MU FREE PC GAME WITH THIS IMPORETANT FEATURE
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>>166088443
>>166084312
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>start playing poe
>get into it
>start doing maps
>poeg and even reddit says the game is kill
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>>166088572
>glorify my misery
>fluff
what? no seriously, I don't understand at all your reply
>>
Need a build to roll as soon as I get home. I hardly have any currency
Not a cycloner Or howa

Would prefer melee but might try a caster
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>>166088443
The problem is time after time GGG said
>We can do x because we don't have not enough people/money for it
Now they shove a fucking xbone port down our throats, i can understand how this can rub people off especially people who played PoE since beta and had to suffer through the desync era.
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>>166088897
its fine

just a bunch of autists sperging out for no reason
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>>166089157
>we can't do x because we don't have enough people/money
fuck
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>>166088180
you can look forward to becoming a bum when money that keeps you afloat runs out
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>>166073867
read this in bakedchicken's voice
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>>166089830
i almost forgot how it sounds
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>>166089176
the holes in the boat are a feature
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>>166089523
honestly, I am kinda waiting for my parents to die so that no one will support me

kinda afraid I'll be put into a psychiatric ward (again) forced to survive, or that a family member takes care of me

if I do manage to become a bum, then I won't stay one for long since i won't try to survive, it's the only way I guess, something or someone needs to kill me, I can't do it myself
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>>166063753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3c51r11_Kc

I will cheer you up one of these days!
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>>166090130
some of those are me
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>I financially support xbox PoE
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what if it's good?
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>>166091036
Why the fuck would I care? I don't have an Xbone.
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>good
>pay2play online
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>>166090149
It's easy to say "oh maybe i'll be homeless, and someone will kill me" when you are (I assume) sitting in some warm place and shitposting on 4chin but when you will really end up on the street with empty stomach and no internet it wont be so rosy

btw I'm not juding you, I was pure NEET for 10 years but I got my shit together somewhat when I realized it's unsustainable
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>>166091108
if they made it a,"play anywhere" xbone game you could play it on your pc to at least see what it's like but doesn't look like it will be they're against letting pc players have proper controller support because it could hurt the game design. oh the ironing
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>>166062523
>>166063442
>>166073786
>>166088180
You guys convinced me to get my shit together.

I have a job interview tomorrow. Wish me luck.
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>>166090667
Thanks Kunagisa-san
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>playing off meta build
>helmet enchant is 8c on ilvl84
>all weapons/rings/amulets are literally 10c for a perfect one

Shame mana cost is 100 PER SPELL fucking hell, idk how to manage it without a mana flask which I don't mind using but compared to blade flurry with it's 4 mana cost it's pretty shit
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>>166091768
nothing wrong with using a mana flask anon, don't fall for the memes. they actually make the best bleed/freeze flasks with so many uses.
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>>166090883
the weird thing about this pic is I have that same exact heater at my house that's been sitting in garage for like 15 years
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Is it even meaningful to play srs/golem summoner without primordial might?
The golems just fuck around next to me and delete packs near me, but the clear speed and breaches feel like ass.
I definitely got in over my head with a build I can't afford, but I just can't be fucked to reroll again.
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>>166091768
is the build even good tho
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>>166062523
me
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Is this game worth playing if I already like Diablo 3
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>>166092354
idk yet i'm still in dried lake but I have 30k GMP dps tooltip without even speccing into 2 more damage nodes & I'm still using lvl 16 spell and don't even have power charges on a crit built

so ya my tooltip should be fucking nuts in a few levels and when I have enough crit to wear marylene's fallacy it'll be disgusting
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>>166091768
on one of my characters it costs 500 mana to cast ice golem
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>>166089157

How did they expect anything but a community backlash.

As of right now 100% of the people playing PoE play it on PCs, so this news does literally nothing to them, except tell them that 3 years of resources and time was wasted on something that does nothing for them.

Now chris can sugarcoat and BS about how it gave PC performance boosts, but that should have, or would have happened anyway if such a team would be working on the game. Probably all those improvements would come even sooner and more shit would have gotten done, since the team would not be split into 2 platforms.
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>>166024497
>FREE
>>166024529
>FREE
>>166031698
>free
>>166033448
>free
>>166036487
>free
>>166036613
>free
>>166036782
>free
>>166040793
>free
>>166041157
>free
>>166048303
>free
>>166048472
>free
>>166051206
>free
>>166058076
>Free
>>166058123
>free
>>166059517
>free
>>166060358
>free
>>166060708
>free
>>166061445
>free
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>>166092925

Tooltip means fuck all if you dont specify your skill, and even then it might mean fuck all.

I was obliterating merc dried lake with a 2.5k split arrow tooltip. Literally 1 shotting everything.
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>>166093169
yes I love the "mutually beneficial" HORSESHIT line of reasoning.

what really irks me is the playerbase has been asking why these things like optimization have been taking so long for years and now we know they've literally been lying right to our faces, not only to our faces but using every powerful medium the internet has to offer in order to perpetuate their lies to cover the fact they've been secretly developing everything with a console port in mind.

didn't they stop to think that if they had to go to such great length being dishonest about a game that relies entirely on monetary support from the players that it might not be in their best interest to lie?
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>>166088897
I know this feel

I got into this on Xmas of last year and even while enjoying it from the beginning there's definitely been this feeling of "I'm clearly late to the party"

I'm a very hardcore type of gamer who can easily put in 8+ hours a day everyday so I feel like I would've loved it back earlier on when you could actually discover and make shit yourself and be unique rather than have everything instantly powermined by autists who have been playing for 4 years and know absolutely everything there is to know about every single minor mechanic and interaction and streamers who get to play the patches months in advance

feelsbad because there's just this general sense of regret wishing I got into it sooner. Worse is if it DOES decline and die I don't think there's even another game out there thats similar that I can switch to
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just ripped on my summoner after getting to act3 merc. Thought i was finally get into a map

pls recommend successful builds
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Hey guys. Just got past lv20. Is there any reason to put the difficulty up?

Also I got this on my Witch, so I sent it to my Ranger. It's 22 now, still using this lv5 weapon. Should I replace it with a yellow one soon? Rarity makes me feel inclined to keep it longer.
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>>166093758

Man, its so odd to see how GGG started as such an awesome Dev really connected with the community and listening to the community in the closed beta times, and slowly over time turned the chris wilson, into a jay wilson.
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>>166094021
Woops, forgot pic
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The best part of a F2P game is that you can try the next expo for completely fucking free and not pay shit. You don't have to buy shit (you should already have all tabs you'll ever need by now). If this actually does kill the game you can wipe your hands of it whenever.

It fucking sucks that 3.0 is basically 6 months from now though so next league is just a shit filler league.
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i think i'll buy the new WoW expansion today

what do you think poeg
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>>166094112
there are builds that use a 6l quill rain at the endgame
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>>166094394
I read it's a good weapon, but you don't keep them til endgame do you?
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>>166094450
1 very specific build (Explosive Arrow) uses it endgame. And that's basically the only use for it. If you aren't using Explosive Arrow you shouldn't be using that bow.
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>>166094450
It's even better at endgame but only for one specific build; Explosive Arrow. Chances are your Ranger isn't going to be good for it. I suggest you look up Stormcloud Bow on poe.trade. I'm sure you have an alch laying around.
>>166094260
That's the problem thought. I don't want 3.0 to kill PoE. I like PoE. But Xbone release and announcement WILL alienate the current playerbase and without a playerbase no amount of whales can keep a game afloat. For one, nobody will be in the cities to check out their $300 MTX setup.
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one of my first characters was a flameblast totem build but i was inefficient and just awful in general. I remember disliking it a lot due to shit cast speed and feeling clunky

Im thinking about running it again but not sure i disliked it because it didnt suit me, or i was just shit (didnt even do labs until 70+)

also was looking at scorching ray, or even flameblast, i just dunno i cant decide but i know i want to play aoe dmg, ele damage, CI
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>>166094494
>>166094597
Oh, alright. I just don't really get the item level thing yet. I got this and could equip it at 5. Shouldn't that mean by now, at 22, most yellow quality bows would be better?
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>>166094597
I have a feeling that if the 2.6 league is good enough, people will still try out the next league. If it's good enough, player numbers will be fine. Plus if their China income is good enough they don't even have to worry about the western base anymore.

Granted at that point I'll probably quit, but I'm basically done with the league already so I really have no qualms about not playing for a few months.

>>166094762
Have you tried ignite vortex? AoE ignites and perfect for CI/LL. I had fun 2 leagues ago with it. Only problem is if you can't ignite but otherwise kills really well.

>>166094805
Quill Rain is actually bad weapon for anything before EA. It does the same damage as a white shortbow because of 50% less weapon damage. Meaning you shouldn't have actually ever have used it.
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>>166094762
WI
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>>166094891
Oh jeez
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>>166094953
Don't worry, this game has a shit ton of newb traps everywhere. You will understand nothing until you eventually do (or you follow guides).
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>>166095023
is there a guide that can explain the lingo like 4L and 6L to me
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>>166095250
4 sockets linked together
6 sockets linked together
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>>166095270
right, of course. thanks. i would look up a guide, but i am enjoying the feeling of not knowing what i'm doing here. i haven't felt that in over half a decade.
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>>166095250
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Community_shorthand
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>get a lucky drop
>sell it for 200 chaos
>realize I have no space to hold all this shit when Im already fucked on space

this is fucking retarded, why is it limited to 10 per stack

even with a couple extra tabs needing FOURTY slots just to hold ONE form of my currency is retarded
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>>166095586
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>>166095586
You forgot about p2w tabs?
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>>166095568
thanks again.

is it normal to have found two legendaries after leveling only two characters to level 22?
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>>166095695
that seriously does have to be the only explanation for this shit

god fuck these jews
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>>166095801
Most uniques are shit
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>>166095801
It's not too rare. Kinda lucky, but realize that 99% of unique drops you get early on kinda suck. Watch specifically for Lifesprig, Axium, Tabula Rasa, and Goldrim. A few others, but you can always price check on poe.trade to make sure it's worth keeping (most uniques get vendored).
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>>166095801
listen, I was new pretty recently too so I'll share this with you

"legendaries" are shit in this game and extremely common, dont get worked over them dropping like you would in other arpgs and learn to just kinda accept them as regular drops
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>>166095843
Those tabs came out years after stack sizes were set. Game is basically unplayable with 4 tabs if you want to do endgame and trade anyways (pretty sure I have enough currency to fill 4 tabs).
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>>166095875
>>166095902
>>166095904
my heart is literally broken
but it was necessary
thanks again, fellows
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>>166062523
>He has no identifiable disability besides being lazy and antisocial by choice.)
Where do you live? I want autismbucks for nothing too.
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Has anyone here actually made a profit off of shaper farming? Between this league and the last, even if I were to get a starforge or dying sun on my next run, I'd still be in the negative.
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>>166096176
shaper farming is worse than uber atziri farming
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dumb new frogposter
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>>166096262
Dunno if I can reliably do Uber
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Tell me how bad is the effect of reduced quantity.
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>>166096375
9 IIQ is a lot bigger than 9 IIR.
Probably still worth a lot though.
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>>166076907
Those overpriced pieces of shit only make sense to buy if you're retarded or see it as a donation instead of a equal value trade.
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>>166078072
>>166079418
Do those Xboners have anything else to play?
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>>166094260
You have to buy tabs
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>>166096641
If you already bought tabs you don't need to buy them again though (which most of the people complaining have already).
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>>166094260
>started playing the first day of open beta
>was a noob for a month
>poopsocked onslaught
>poopsocked every HC league since
>thousands of hours
>won several demigods
>wanted to give GGG money but couldn't afford it
>some time goes by
>can afford to buy mtx now
>plan to buy some tabs
>they announce trade tabs
>'no'
>breach league comes
>want to buy some p2w tabs because i liked the league and the performance improvements
>they announce xbox port
>'no'
>haven't given GGG any money at all and probably never will
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Why cant you make mules for tabs?
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>>166096780
You can, just enjoy trying to trade or store currency.
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>>166079545
You're forgetting the part where future content will be dragged down by the limitations of the consoles because it's simply more efficient for them to develop one thing that works on both systems rather than create a pc system that they then have to adjust to hell and back for it to work on a controller.
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>>166096780
You can but it's inconvenient, not to mention premium tabs let you trade in a non-shit manner.
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>>166096780
just buy the fucking tabs goy
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>>166096880
how so? dont you just get to rename the tabs and color them?
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>>166096952
You can list items for sale directly from within a premium tab
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Can you use steambux on this game?
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>>166095982
>came out years after stack sizes were set.
Those stack sizes still had the same reason for existing back then, it's just that they made you buy more regular stash tabs instead of one specific one.
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trying to craft a fire dmg + ES ring, is this sellable or just keep scouring and going? I dont know if any builds do fire + lightning
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>>166097075
yes goy buy those tabs right now
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>>166097075
Yes, unless it's to upgrade from good goy points to a supporter pack.
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>>166097135
well I've got steambux on my account and I was thinking about buying the currency tab since I don't know what else I should spend it on
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>>166097181
Buy a premium tab first if you don't already have one.
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>>166097181
good goy
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>>166097212
>>166097219
>10 whole dollarydoos for a currency tab
never fucking mind
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>premium quad tab
>currency tab
>regular stash tab bundle

this is objectively the best value
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>>166097312
I thought it was going to be cheaper based on goys like this
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>>166096687
It's not free to play since you have to buy tabs to experience the full game.
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>>166097431
who cares tho man
this isn't like hearthstone, or league of legends, where you're funding multi million dollar companies
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tfw I can't help but imagine a new RuneScape esque MMO with a modified PoE engine
cutting down trees
fishing sharks and shit
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Why don't people use Daresso's Courage for champion block builds? It's 30 block chance like Lioneyes Remourse.
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>>166098108
give one reason why you'd use that over the surrender
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>>166099356
1/200th of the cost
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>/poeg/ unironically arguing about which shield to use for block builds
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Reminder that starforge is shit.
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If Im already converting all my dmg to fire, whats the better vinktar, 20% of phys to lightning or 20-xxx lightning dmg added to attacks
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>Path of Eggzbox.
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>>166100298
it's only bad because it can't do phys reflect
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>>166099407
it costs 55c for the best shield in the game

I'm pretty sure every build out there can fit that into their budget
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>>166100975
It's 209c on BHC, shitcrow
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>>166101054
supply and demand

0 supply because nobody plays it

0 demand because nobody plays it

checkmate
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I want to play this game again.
Any ok melee scion builds with 2handed swords? Preferably no special gear required but that won't be the deal breaker I think.
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>>166097945
tfw playing runescape
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>>166101267
Don't EVER call Alkaizer a nobody again.
EVER
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>>166101530
no scion sucks
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post hc builds go
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>>166102467
Xophs Nurture Slayer Rain of Arrows
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>>166085146
yea gimme your shit pham
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At what point should one go for a 6-link? I'm cyclone so a 6th link would only boost my dps, but it's not like I can't handle t15 with the current dps
Although I hear guardians have considerably more HP so I should probably go for it anyway
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>>166103403
level 1
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>>166103403
if ur cyclone and using the niggeramu's axe a 6 link won't help much at all because almost all your dps comes from the axe balls coming out


but if you're some kind of regular cyclone then whenever you want go buy a 6 socketed one and spam fusings all day or buy it i guess
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>>166103954
ye it's an old fashioned atziri's disfavour cyclone
time to burn all my money then
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what to level /poeg/

preferably cheap and not fotm
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>>166103403
When you can afford it. I have guardians maps but can't afford a 6L right now.
And stacking fusing takes forever.
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>people list currency exchange offers in non-integer values
>when you get to their HO and open the trade window they round down their offer to the nearest integer
>they have the fucking gall to call you stingy when you ask where's the rest
I want to kill some people sometimes
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>make a build
>plan it out for 3 days
>looks good on paper, everything seems to fit well and dps should be very high as well as having decent ES while not being expensive
>level up to 70
>doesn't quite work as expected
>have to spend a 4 link to fix it and gain power charges reliably
>have to spend more than I wanted to even after prices have dropped for most things
>can't use exact gear I wanted without sacrifices of 3-4 points to fill out stats or find crazy expensive gear
>dps is lower than I thought it would be
>issues with mana to the point where I want to kill myself and use mana pot every 2/3 casts which is like every 1.5 seconds
>worse in every single way compared to my last bladeflurry xD build


Well I learned to stop trying to go against the meta I guess, I tried guys, but the game is just so much easier and more fun when you have 8k life, max block, and the whole screen explodes in a simple one rightclick while you ignore every game mechanic except AoE ground effects and the occasional volatile while doing so much DPS you down any boss in one 6 stack of bladeflurry which takes about 1 second.
:(
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post xbox hc viable builds
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>>166098108
>>166099356
>>166099632
speaking of block build
how do
just copy alkaizer or a similar forum build? i have an abyssus and surrender now but phys damage is tearing my asshole open
also what main skill to use?
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Should I craft a third prefix and exalt this, or wait for a t1 es roll?
First time crafting
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>>166106404
you should exalt this asap
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>>166106404
Shit, forgot pic.
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>>166106308
sword bladeflurry gladiator

And just take block nodes, in softcore just use cospri's and vulnerability as well as abyssal cry and you'll have 100 billion dps per second

I went noncrit on my one and could kill guardians while facetanking so fast it didn't matter anyway
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>>166106512
>>166106404
I meant suffix, fuck.
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>>166105586
if you are such a Jew you call someone out for another 25c cause u listed something with .5ex instead of c you deserve it
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>>166106554
you dont have to if you dont wanna but dyou mind linking your profile? or a picure of your tree? ive been tossing up between a few different pathing choices and now ive hit 64 its probably time to really get one down

i like the idea of cospris too since i have a bit of wealth now but never used one so i dont know the mechanics
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>>166106670
Did you even read the fucking post properly? Me going to their hideout obviously means I'm buying
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>>166106776
I used something like this, I went full softcore mode and never died anyway

poeurl.com/0Sj
You just use 2 curses like temp chains and vulnerability so you do poison on hit to cursed enemies then you do extra DoT and more phys damage and the more phys dmg and DoT makes the poison stronger than you use temp chains to make the DoT last longer doing even more dmg,

And it enables a fuckload of double dipping because the poison is buffed by a lot of things like area damage etc etc it's just absurd dps really, one thing explodes for % of it's life while cursed means it does poison dmg of that amount of life too so the dmg is just fucking retarded

If you saw kripps bladeflurry build recently its kind of like that except actually immortal while doing it
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hey lads, which arpgs are fun self found?
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>>166106512
Got two of them now.
Anyone?
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>>166107143
appreciate it, though im curious are you the cospris guy? How would that work? is it for the chilled crit or something?
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>>166107308
dont slam exs into something unless you plan to take it all the way

6L ~700 es dual res regealia is only ~7ex BSC
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>>166107213
Diablo 3 xD
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>>166108734
We're living in a world where D3 is enjoyable self found, is slower paced, and also got rid of leech and its "allies cannot die" mod.
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>>166108980
>D3 is enjoyable
for 6 hours from what I heard. it's a game min-maxed to provide cheap entertainment to the "I want gratification NOW" casual crowd instead of being the hardcore and addicting successor of D2
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>>166109112
yep, but its satisfying as fuck to play compared to like 85% of poes builds. the smoothness of d3 is great though i havn't played it in a long ass time
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>>166107213
Titan Quest, Grim Dawn, Dungeon Siege 2/3, Sacred 1/2.
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any sh*tcrows here? you'reare not welcome in poeg

poeg is strictly for elite hc players
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>>166109495
>grim dawn
naaaaaaahhhhhhh
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>>166108536
>BSC
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>>166109538
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>>166106231
My only question is if the xbox one version will require you to be constantly online if you're playing solo

If so whats the fucking point GGG
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>>166109538
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>>166109625
>he plays logoutcore
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>press p on keyboard
>poetrade opens instead of pornhub
god damn it
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>>166109816
> wanting a pornsite to be bound to a key on your keyboard

Sad
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>>166109495
Thanks for the suggestions.
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How would you guys feel about an arpg with an open over world and instanced dungeons ala Diablo but with TES lore and randomized loot and skill/currency and end game mapping system like poe?

It's my holy grail
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>>166110148
get out of here todd
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>>166110148
>You see that Mountain
>That mountain is the final boss
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>>16611023
You don't want to be a holy knight or acolyte praying to the mad god while slapping the shit out of some "map" oblivion malachi boss?
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>>166110148
>TES

Be sure to post your idea on 9gag as well.
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oops :D
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>>166110878
>dying to literally nothing
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>>166111107
>life build
>spider lair boss

he died to chaos dmg, noob
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>>166111107
>>166111169
Nah you can tell he died to volatile desu
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>>166111567
you actually can't don't lie
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>>166111567
and here's the right answer
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>>166112386
how the fuck can he tell
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how do you justify not spending a dime on a game you have enjoyed for over three years?
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>1 map
>2 roths
shame it wasn't 2 astramentalis
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>>166112762
I'm very poor plus I don't enjoy the idea of tainting the pure experience of the game by buying additional tabs
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>>166112762
GGG muted me for a month once

never giving them money
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im sorry catposter but your stock just dropped for me
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>>166106554
so mate should i drop an ex on a cospris ? seems like a fun weap anyway
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>>166112956
can you even msg people to buy items when you are muted?
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last map was 2 roths
this map was 2 meme axes
what will double up next map boys?
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>>166113245
no, and you couldn't party back then either

and all i did was call redditors teacher's pets
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>>166112956
you're a manchild and a retard
grow up
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>>166113485
what does that make you
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""""permanent""" allocation
people still pick up MY stuff
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discord was a mistake
kys retards
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WE PRESIDENT NOW
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>>166065207
>There was no better time in the history of PoE than the closed beta period
Fuck no.

Trading was shit
Netcode was shit
Map progression was shit

The only thing I miss was unified global chat, having actual reasons to play in parties and players not being plastered in a million garish cosmetics
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so exalts a re just gonna keep dropping in value right?
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>>166112762
Spent 20 during closed beta. They never improved anything of significance so they deserve no further handouts.

How do you justify being a cuckold who thinks ggg is entitled to my money when it's touted as a free to play game?
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>>166109112

Did you play D3 when it first came out? You had to grind the FUCK out of nothing but act 1 inferno butcher to get very specific drops to maybe even flirt with the idea of moving onto act 2 inferno.
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GGG is perfect and you guys should appreciate all their hard work

this is a free game after all. you've no right to complain
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>>166115338
>never improved anything of significance
>implying
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>>166115726
Yeah now we have unmitigated lag spikes, client freezes and frame drops because of graphical pornograhpy on the screen. So much better. Boy I should have bought one of those $400 supporter packs for that patch you're right
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>>166115941
>imp lying any of those things are new
>imp lying the client isn't the fastest and stablest it's ever been
>imp lying you're not just a rank amateur memer out for easy (you)s
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Spoonfeed me an easy as fuck meta build that I can give to a scrublord that refuses to play non-female characters.
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>>166115941
>You're so ungratefule to GGG
>this is a free game, you should at least spend some money on it!
>But then it wouldn't be free?
>FUCK YOU BUY TABS NIGGER

lollig out loud
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I just reached merciless dried lake on my first character, but I feel like ED is way too clunky for me and want to try something else.
What should my new build be? Ancestral warchief?
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>>166116120
SRS literally plays itself.
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I made myself a filter that only shows mirrors.
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>>166116095
>rank amateur memer
>still replying

GAME. SET. MATCH
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>>166116383
i'm the best memester in poeg
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I'm going to say it like it is... I've over the past year spent thousands on my PS4. A game runs around $60 not including the dlc, season passes, currency etc... I'm a huge fanatic of console because PC just freaking sucks. I pay for luxury and entertainment not to fucking download an update. (Looking at you windows 10).

I'm a casual player who has responsibilities in life. There's nothing like being on my couch or bed and using a fucking comfortable CONTROLLER no stupid asss wires that go here and there... Plug and play (sounds naughty) Anyways... You supporters don't have to play on console?

Some of you flaunt like you have money the sad part is those that flaunt are usually are trying to keep up with the joneses or live pay check to pay check. Going console lets GGG tap into a different type of economy the middle and upper class. Granted there are a few of you that do well but you're rare like a mirror of kalandra.

While PC is the master race it will never replace that special feeling when you open one up for the holidays... You know that feeling.
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wrong

that's me
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>>166116676
As long as you acknowledge that you are a console peasant, I am largely indifferent to you and your opinions.
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>>166114565
trading didn't exist, maps didn't exist and desync only ever bothered shitters

when these things did exist they were awesome, too in cb b/c the community was more close knit unless you mean the kripp effect on the economy which i never paid much mind to and only sperglords did
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>>166116676
you have to pay for online to play poe on xbox. i like playing on a controller too but consoles are objectively drooling retard tier
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>>166068717
I greatly enjoyed 2.0 as well due to all the new things it brought. Everything after 2.0 was rather boring to me.

I also really dislike how all the focus has been put on challenge leagues. The thing with challenges also is, if you're playing hardcore you often can't complete the challenges. This is because if you die you go to the standard non challenge league. So it's demotivating to do them in the first place.

Then the leagues itself, it's just like regular PoE with an extra thing. It's not really motivating to play in itself. I just play challenge leagues because regular hardcore is completely deserted. Another thing I really hate is how you pretty much have 1 build that is always unkillable, and requires only 100-150 chaos or so worth of investment. Currently you can just dump 200 chaos on a howa build and get 100 in hardcore. People laugh at this when I say it in general chat but I have levelled a howa ranger with about 250 chaos investment and its lv 96. I also made an earthquake character with around 300 chaos worth of investment with a kaoms heart and formless inferno (lots of armor, around 9k life). Guess what, it ripped at lv 92 in a precinct map where my howa ranger would've never died.

The balance is so bad, and atlas of worlds made these issues even worse, because now you need an EHP of 15k to survive in maps and with life you just can't get that so you go ES. I never played an ES build before, I mostly levelled with bow builds in the past but howa ranger is so ridiculous I just don't know what to say.
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>>166118136
>the middle ages were better because small village communities were more close knit, medicine and technology was inexistent, and disease only killed half of the infants, lol those shitters
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could someone here pls help me through normal lab on softcore breach for 1 c?
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>>166118415
I have no idea why people keep using this EHP meme they probably got from reddit, but plenty of life builds have reached end game and I'm talking t16 end game with 7k life builds, stop finding excuses for yourself and get better instead of blaming game balance every time you die
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>>166118443
right so what exactly isn't better about close knit community when disease and medicine are irrelevant and the game acts as a natural casual filter?
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>>166118415
The only thing good about 2.0 are technical fixes and new acts. The game's mechanics have been routinely butchered to make the game newshit friendly and now it's obvious why so many features were never pursued is because xbox casuals wouldn't like them.
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Anyone playing/played bladefall mines in 2.5? How was it?
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>>166116676
The thing is, Path of Exile was made to be a difficult hardcore game. The last league that I remember that had some difficulty in it was beyond league From there on the game has been made easier and easier and easier. More casual and more casual.

I don't really like the direction the game has gone in at all, it's not even the same good game anymore that it once was. This is imo because GGG can't balance the game at all. Balance issues are rampant, they only have 1 guy doing the balance and it makes the game not really worth playing beyond level 70. Because by then the balance issues are way too big.

>>166100298
What build do people even make with it? You can't use icecrash because it's 50% cold. Can't use earthquake groundslam sunder etc as well.
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>>166118607
knowledge pool was low as fuck. nobody knew what the fuck they were doing. experimentation was low. build enabling ideas were limited. grouping to even ACCESS end game was basically mandatory, compare to nowadays where solo players can succeed, as they should. game mechanics were raw as fuck and abusable as fuck. wealth was disproportionately gathered at the top instead of being a fairer bell curve. better community my ass. the meta was stale.

"it was just better because there were fewer people playing!"
what kind of retarded logic is that? you're not saying anything logical, only appealing to emotion
the only benefit to a smaller community is that /global 1 was more helpful back then instead of being a meme spam fest it is nowadays, but that's really a small benefit of having no one playing.

the game is MUCH better now than it was then when poe was some unknown niche arpg selling itself as d2's spiritual successor.
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>>166118582
If I have a 9k life build, with 14k base armor, flasked 40k and it dies due to a spike but on a cheaper build I have more life and I don't die to that kind of stuff than it's obvious what is better. I also played slayer, which had way worse leech than the howa build that I have that's just leeching so much its always at full ES. So only direct oneshots can kill the character. With my earthquake character, it was capped at 30% (the leech). But with vaal pact there is no cap. So only 1 shots could kill my 14k ES character (20k with vaal pact).

Character literally can't die, immume to status ailments, immume to stun and a way bigger health pool that is always full when compared to my EQ character.

It's just that the balance is garbage in this game, you can't really deny that once you played multiple character past 90. There is no place for life at high levels, you can get 100 with EQ perfectly fine but it's like playing the game on ultra hardmode compared to the shitty ES build I copy pasted to get 96 in breach hardcore. I can probably get 100 with it if I continue grinding maps but I don't really feel like playing the game at all at the moment.
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>>166118734
What kind of features do you mean by that? Which features would be removed in favour of console play? I can't really think of any.

2.0 act 4 was difficult when it released. Problem was the rest of the game was too easy in comparison. I don't really know which kind of features would improve balance or make the game harder. I blame ascendancy for making the game too trivial. I also said this multiple times on forums that it would trivialize the game unless GGG upped the difficulty. If GGG would up the difficulty you get to the point where you can only play a few specific ascendancies. And we're pretty much at that point.
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>>166119109
When maps werw introduced they were surely a bit over the top difficulty wise. What you say about needing a group is an understatement. You needed either

1. a pro gaming team dedicated to play 10 or more hours per day
2. to be literally one of the world's premier theory crafters

They went way over the top on making mapping easier. I'm not bad at video games in fact I'm better than over 90% of the people who play but when even I can't map the game is broken. Like I said they went too far. Map difficulty just needed be scaled back a tad. Reaching 100 shouldn't have been an autistic challenge as it is now. It should have been difficult and generally not expected to happen per league. I remember the first hc 100 was quite eventful. Now it's expected and that's lame.

>"it was just better because there were fewer people playing!
Objectively yes when the way you get more playing is by bringing more casual newshits in, fewer is better.

> the game is MUCH better now
Not even close. The game is a casual farming sim for consoles with a convoluted build system tacked on to make autists feel better about themselves. The old game just needed bug fixes, balance and content. The new game is that, only for casual instead.
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whats the best scion build?
i dont want to butcher my skilltree like i did on my with and get bullied, so pls help
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>all this text on an imageboard
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>>166120053
Essence Drain or some kind of totem build like Warchief Totem are good picks for Scion, but most likely "best" Scion build is going to be on par with an average or shit build from any other class, Scion's ascendancy is just pretty lackluster overall and there's not much you can do to salvage it currently
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>>166119417
It's more of a philosophical shift I've keenly noticed which is indicated by bulk of dev time blatantly spent on

1. making game easier
2. making game console friendly
3. making casual friendly content

The old game focused more on stuff like racing and cut-throat. They evolved a brutal end game featuring the maelstrom of chaos into an even mire difficult map system. The tree was much simpler and needed not have more added to it, only refined. The game was focused less on bullet hell and speed clearing. There are a lot of little things, none of which would really smack you in the face and go, "that's it!" which is precisely why some people seem to think things are better when they're not. Like I said the changes made are all development philosophy oriented like hc game -> attract hc audience but that takes longer to attract people to and now it's casual game to attract bigger numbers.
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>>166119958
>>166119109
I still remember when merciless was just there and you would just die 80 times or so getting through it lol.
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>>166118901
Lacerate or flicker
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>>166120262
i have no idea what essence drain or warchief totem even means and i dont trust non-autists with builds so i dont want to look on the official forums.
could you maybe post a skill build i could use?
id be very grateful anon
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>>166120609
no, I don't have the patience nor the incentive to spoonfeed you an entire build+tree, I gave you two good skills to run with, now do your own research
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>>166061958
dead game now. my mtx money used for a console port thats goijng to fail while the game is extremely broken. fuck you ggg
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>>166062216
i spent around 3-400$ and want to puke
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>>166120520
my first "successful" build was a lightning strike summoner templar which was basically me just taking raise zombie and lightning strike as my two skills cause everything else was shit, playing connect the dots on nodes that seemed like they'd be better and dying at least 50 times before clearing the edge/outer ring of maelstrom of chaos, going inside to the submerged passage looking area, getting immediately destroyed them uninstalling and waiting for d3 updates.

minion pathing was impressively bad back then. they'd just kinda decide seemingly on their own volition to attack something. people were either really good at the game from some secret broken build they made that was literally unkillable or shit. i remember wishing i could be like this guy who had a tempest shield/molten shell build and just walked around doing nothing and one shotting everything. that got nerfed into the ground tho.
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>>166115941

none of that is new though.

They immensly improved performance. From load times, to lockstep, and generall servers, also way less crashes than there used to be.

Just because they could have done way more you cant say they have not done anything.
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>>166121461
GGG had such an open line communication way about everything, especially since they're so active in reddit and the community, that it's just totally unbelievable that they hid the console port for three years. Chris said on reddit they've been making the game console ready all the way back during forsaken masters, three years ago and yet they not only didn't bother telling the community about it but they purposefully hid it from them while soliciting supporter packs through several leagues clearly labeled as designed to support the development of "Path of Exile" which was a PC game and nothing else. It's normal for devs to make a console game but not in such a lying scumbag way.
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>>166116676
>PS4
>I'm a huge fanatic of console because PC just freaking sucks. I pay for luxury and entertainment not to fucking download an update

>You pay for your net twice so you can download 20-40 gig updates after you already pay more money for each game and for less performance than a 250$ pc.
>I pay for luxury and entertainment not to fucking download an update
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>>166122020
At this point only thing that could salvage this mess is if GGG provides proof that all console development has been mostly paid by microsoft and they only diverted some time of their employees to get that going.
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>>166122265
PS4 wouldn't have been so bad. Some games on it don't require an online sub, PoE could have been one of them had they not gone the degenerate route and ported to ogl instead of directdogshit 11 and then they could easily make the game available on ever platform from linux to mac to ps4 to ios to android. I'd definitely pay them to lie to my face for that. Xbone online games all require paid gold suns so PoE is now a pay2play online game. GGG could have made the console port "play anywhere" so at least PC who unknowingly paid for its development could play it on a PC for free and see what proper controller PoE is like. But no they're just dumb, lying, lazy and greedy shits. I love the irony of not allowing controller support on pc lest it compromise the immaculate design while simultaneously saying a console port won't. Fuckers. I hate you Chris you fag.
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What gems you think are most important to quality/21 in howa bf. Trying to figure out what secondary gems I should level
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>>166123382
wrath
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>>166123382
kill yourself stream build player
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GGG is selling out so hard and nobody wants to admit it kak
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>>166124324
Feels bad when it reminds you of your mom
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>OUR NEW WATER SYSTEM
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i bet they'll delete HC just to make more money
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nothing of value lost
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>>166125034
wtf i love ggg now
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>>166125034
They don't need to when they already stopped supporting it

>homogenize challenge leagues
>hc is now just edgy sc
>they never bothered refining the entire RIP to SC mechanic you still just inexplicably spawn in sc
>difficulty is entirely balanced around sc
>hc and sc playstyle is entirely the same now, used to be far more defensive/tacticool
>only thing killing hc players anymore is technical difficulties
>when a top player died in hc, chat used to be taunting them with RIP for an hour straight for the whole league; only happens for a minute or two at start of league now since hc isn't really a challenge anymore and top players can instanrly get back to 95+ and easily get all items back
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>>166125802
>when a top player died in hc, chat used to be taunting them with RIP for an hour straight for the whole league; only happens for a minute or two at start of league now since hc isn't really a challenge anymore and top players can instanrly get back to 95+ and easily get all items back
This still happens you retarded catposter.
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>>166126123
for a couple mins only toward beginning of league it's no where near as eventful because hc is literally not as challenging anymore and also making chat optional kinda defeated the thrill of it
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Yeah, this game is dead now. I recommend you guys try out Median XL when the new update drops.

If Grim Dawn had multiplayer/no cheat-engine I would say thats the next great ARPG.
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Diablo 2 is still the unchallenged king of online dungeon crawlers and that will never change. I'm from the future.
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I almost can't believe some of the bullshit that comes out of that jackass chris wilsons mouth. Lying to our faces telling us this console bullshit wont impact the PC version of the game. I am almost certain 90% of the player base(excluding people that actually have autism or redditors) could care less about this game being on console.

Hurr da durr durr I can play a worse version of this game except with a controller, keyboard is too hard 4 muh cerebral palsy xD!!
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bet they'll announce the full trade system soon

gated behind a paywall of course

and then the p2p beta shortly after

and then the next challenge league also being p2p
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>>166127474
It's a contradiction to say they've been making the game console ready all this time but then say the pc version isn't affected by it. which is it? can't be both.
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>>166127474
it's laughable at this point
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My only issue in this whole debacle is Chris claiming the Xbox development helped bring optimization to PC. This is such a retarded thing to say I am beyond words. If anything this is the reason why the game still runs like absolute doshit on dx11, because they have been applying console solutions to a PC game.
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>>166129510
Can't wait for, "PoE runs at 60 fps on an ancient AMD APU console but not on my new PC gaming rig" and the simply eric console war.

If a console port is required to optimize your game, your game isn't the problem YOU the ones making it are.
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>open Chayula breach
>FUCKING BULLET HELL SPAM

You lied to me
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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/general-discussion

Holy fuck it's like the bioware forums and the maiden voyage all over again. Where's Stanrey Roo? I know you're in there somewhere.
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>>166130561
i remember years back when chris said he refused huge offers from big companies to sell poe because he didn't want to betray the community
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>>166129510
>>166129970
If he did say this I'm convinced that this is indeed the case. If they've been prioritizing optimization for console, then tried to bring those optimizations for console to PC then yes, this really points to the issue why the game's performance is so crappy after so much time and supposedly time investment from GGG.

There's a reason why there are bad ports, a bad port often has very little optimization for PC and runs like crap.

>>166127474
I don't even get it myself why would I want to play this on a console, let alone the xbox one. A lot of people are still using PS3 / Xbox 360 because xbox one barely has any titles and it's cheaper to just upgrade your PC for the titles that are there than to buy the xbox one / ps4.

You can build a gaming pc from scratch for 600 USD and it'll run everything high to ultra, no game lower than medium at least. You're gettting more FPS than you would on xbox one. You have more and faster memory etc. At the moment I feel like consoles are completely outclassed by pc because pc hardware is just so much better.
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>You seem to not comprehend that owning stock in a company and purchasing a supporter pack are not the same thing. Supporters did not buy stock in GGG. Only those who actually own part of the company deserve say in any of this, and my understanding is that Chris, Erik, and Jonathan still are the majority shareholders in the company...


AHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh fuck I can't breath

Suddenly a developer which has always listened to their community and as a result has won financial support of the game, now must own stock in the company to have a say.

----------------------------- <--- rine ends here

can't wait for the lock threads and deleted posts
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does /poeg/ play hc or sc
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Damn it Vorici I'm an assassin not a doctor
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patch 2.5.2.1:
chaos orbs have been renamed to coins orbs
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>4 CPU threads between 70-80% utilization
>GPU around 40% utilization
>40FPS thanks to tar on the ground
>optimized game
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>>166126449
Is Grim Dawn offline then, or can you cheat in that game?

I was considering playing it, but if that's the case I probably will get bored of it after I completed the game and won't feel much for playing the game on hardcore mode.

Didn't final fantasy have some ARPG game as well?

>>166125802
In just 3 days of this league I had a 5L mahori erqi and a kaoms heart along with lv 88. I played 34 hours total over those 3 days with a suboptimal build (face it ES is king atm).

There are some builds out there that synergize with vaal pact and ghost reaver like howa ranger so that you never really die unless you either screw up gigantically or disconnect. People are facetanking vaal slam and dominus slam in maps because they get so much energy shield
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>>166131237

Whats the matter anon? Not liking the xbox """""optimization""""". You entitled little fuck
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>>166130561
>>166130947
>swtor was 6 years ago
Time flies so fast.
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I honestly can't wait to see how the Xbox version handles 6 man parties [inb4 they reduce it to 4] and laggy shit like ground effects.

I REALLY hope the game actually runs better on Xbox so all these reddit cucks get redpilled.
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>>166131072
strictly hc

shitcrows are not allowed here
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>2.) GGG is a private, for profit company. Are you upset when Chris buys a new house or a new luxury car with his set income because you want every dollar of your purchase to go towards PoE development? Be thankful they're dumping money into hiring more developers and generating new content, because they could just as easily be cutting back and dishing out higher salaries instead of improving PoE.

AREN'T YOU THANKFUL????
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>>166131393
"We need 7 CPU cores to run ground effects smoothly."
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>>166131237
> feeling entitled to constant 60 fps with a skylake i5 and GTX 10xx in Path of Exile

Hahahaha

i5 4460 and GTX 1050 Ti here, game is still tanking fps with fire / chaos degen on the ground and a lot of effects going on. I also always have lagg in maps if enemies have shared boon or give frenzy charges on dead. That stuff caused me to even rip once because I killed a pack in a packsize map and I was standing still for like 4 seconds letting all the mobs hits me.
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>>166131659
Typically speaking the "better optimization on console" is pure myth. There are videos all over yt showing direct framerate comparisons in the same game between console/pc and console is always superior barring some blunder in driver or game patch. There's absolutely zero reason for xbone hardware to be capable of running this game ar 60 fps unless they entirely neglected PC optimization.
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>>166132048
>and console is always superior
*durr pc i mean. lookup "potatomasher buid".
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>i DONATED money to IMPROVE the game
lmao no you piece of shit, you bought virtual goods and services to get ahead of other players, and to show off your COOL stuff

literally kill yourselves
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All GGG had to do was announce little steps towards the console port instead of a big fuck you announcement out of nowhere, now they're perma-stuck in a shitstorm of bad PR.

Makes me kek real hard.
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Whether it be true or not now every single time anyone on PC is having performance issues they're going to have doubt whether or not GGG is properly optimizing or prioritizing optimization on PC with the existence of a console port to remove any hope for plausible deniability. They're gonna lose so much income from making a console port. PC players are very conspiracy theory oriented and the best you can do is remove all reasonable doubt by not making a console port. What's worse is games on xbone don't tend to do well unless they're "cinematic experience" AAA big budget titles. PoE will certainly gain a niche following but this in no way will offset the loss of support from an entirely community funded PC exclusive game. Had they ported to OGL and been upfront about it I'd wager they'd avoid this whole mess from all the mac and linux vocal minority support they'd get.
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>>166132458
GGG themselves said it the mtx is just to sweeten the deal blame them for being retarded not the playerbase. Oh right...

>bioware forums all over again
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>>166131074
>you're in the 90s
>area is under level 60
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>So i'm guessing in 2 years time we'll need 4 TitanXP SLI'ed to run this shit at minimum settings with a buttery smooth cinematic 24 fps?
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Not that I think about it. Did GGG release the dx11 client prior to 3.0 so people would beta test it for the xbox version? Lmao
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What did Chris mean by this?
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>20% Superior Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance Support (Level 16)
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>>166133692
lightning meta confirmed
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>>166133572
>tfw so high so meems you accidentally greentext shit you didn't mean to
also blogpost:
acquired 1400 fuses and decided to try my luck rolling a 6L and halfway through chickened out and burned a ton more of currency to get 1500 fuses to just use vorici's table
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>>166127474
I have heard a LOT of shitty excuses from them regarding their design philosophy.

Intentionally shitty DPS tooltips because they don't want to turn it into a numbers game
They didn't want to put item level visible on items by default because it would be too confusing to new players

I KNOW there's more shit they've said, but I can't remember it off the top of my head
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>>166133897
i unironically just think chris is a dumbass and doesn't know what he's doing
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>dark souls + poe's itemization

dis gon b gud
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moot left 4chan because he knew
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>>166136567
he knew people figured out he's a literal cuck you mean
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how important is capping resists really if I'm going to have ~100% uptime on ToH, Vinktars, and Dying sun?
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doesn't matter if you're a sh*tcrow
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when will catshitter kill himself?
he single handedly makes this general unbearable to browse
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>>166137414
if you're only like 10% off the cap, it's not too bad, but for anything else it's just way too easy to have a quarter second downtime on it and pop instantly.
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>>166137752
>t. turdbird
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This was basically the missing piece to the puzzle, wasn't it?

The TV-meta...

The piss poor balance...

Shitting items all over the place...

Poor optimization for many PC users...

Overall lack of polish...

The many, many loose ends...

+90 people on Wilson's payroll...

It all ties in. Thank god, I quit this game already. This console release merely confirms that I was right in flipping this game the bird.

A "small team" worked on the console port? My ass! I am certain it's been over 30 people involved in the console port, and I feel like I'm lowballing it.

What's wrong GGG? Weren't the PC users good enough for you? Has the lake that is "PC land" been fished dry already? Need to move on like a swarm of locusts? Sure looks like it.

Have fun with releasing this unpolished game that you're dragging through the dirt by casualizing it on consoles. Can't wait for the first impressions of people who actually know a thing or two about video games.

Woe is the day the casual console guys pull back the curtain and set foot on these forums.

Am I pissed off? Perhaps, but I am mostly amazed by how GGG manages to fuck with customers. The absolute best part is that they have been hiding it for over a year. Doesn't take a bloodhound to smell the guilty concience.

My advice: Get off this sinking ship and watch from the sidelines, at least that might be good for a laugh...
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>>166137414
Important. Use jewels to cap. I even recommend overcapping a bit because then you won't need a remove curse flask and can do elemental weakness maps. though you can also get one purity aura for ele weakness maps that's fine as well in my experience if you're doing a hand of wisdom and action build.
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i'll continue playing this game as long as it's free but i won't be giving GGG any money and i won't be saying anything good about them
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>>166138225

>What's wrong GGG? Weren't the PC users good enough for you? Has the lake that is "PC land" been fished dry already? Need to move on like a swarm of locusts? Sure looks like it.

Anything in the pursuit of profit.

Listen/read some psychology. Read up on Dark Triad and Machiavellianism.

Instead of gearing up and going for a long game, GGG/Chris, in all of their/his wisdom of a shitty finance degree, decided to to the most basic thing that psychology predicts - short game for immediate, or near-immediate profit/gain.

Ill stick around to the end of this league, try one more build - Scourge Occultist, and then abandon ship.
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>>166138225
This shit reads like it is straight out of Reddit. Kys yourself my man or at least stop typing like a faggot.
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>>166138681

it might as well not be free

game is 100% unplayable without a currency tab in its current state
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>>166138725
>Ill stick around to the end of this league, try one more build - Scourge Occultist, and then abandon ship.
You don't matter
You never did
You never will

Stop acting as if you do
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>>166138225
It really explains how there could be 90 people working for GGG while they still struggle with optimization.

Idk I guess 3 people were doing dev job on the site, 3 people posting stuff on it, 4 people doing bott hunting or something similar and controlling chat in game another 5 doing customer support stuff and the rest dev stuff. If I would need to give an estimate about how many work on developping stuff that is in the game right now I'd say about 30 people, 20 people doing stuff outside of the game (like website, community, moderation, payments) which leaves like 40 people to work and tune the console version.

It's obvious that GGG's main focus ever since awakening released was console. Which explains why glaring balance issues in 2.0 were never addressed at all.
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>>166138904
this is unironically the most p2w western game i've ever played

>>166138925
you probably think you're defending GGG by saying that but you're actually hurting them; everyone matters
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>>166138925

I know i am nothing in that cesspool. Which is kinda nice. How about you? Are you a big shit? Or just a small shitling? W

Do you think any of that matters? Why do you care? Do you even care?
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>>166139145
You don't, not when you act as an entitled child and try to wave your player status as some kind of leverage, then you're nothing but a nuisance and I wish you would get off my f2p game already
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>>166139314
retard
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>tfw getting a 6L in less than 40 fusing
well this went better than expected
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>>166139145
The thing is for really big companies they think that way because they're big they can't really listen to customer stories they use analytics to gauge what the public wants. GGG isn't that big imo and they will never be BlizzardActivision tier that they just sell games based on their name rather than the game being good (hearthstone, starcraft 2, the countless CoD games, diablo 3 they all sold mostly on name not because of great gameplay or a good story).
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>>166139183
>How about you?
I'm nothing either but the difference is that I acknowledge it

The game is GGG's and GGGs alone, it doesn't revolve around *me*, *my* personal needs, *my* vision and *my* desires, and I will never demand changes to be done and threaten to leave otherwise, as that is an attitude only a millenial would adopt
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constantly see poeg memes regurgitated all over the place and i know GGG lurks here

don't know how anyone could think this place is irrelevant
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why can barrage shotgun?
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>>166139497

>me me me

Thats baby boomers mate.

While it is true that it is GGG's game, AFAIK, they are marketing it, and selling it, and catter it to a specific demographic that enables them to grow and prosper. Thus they have to cater to playerbase, if they are to continue to grow, unless they have reached a certain threshold that allows them to be independent of the consumers.

Seems like the leeched sufficiently enough to cross that threshold. Which is why all the rage.

And i side with the outrage, since investing and continuing to support PoE, removing glaring issues and fixing things, would attract large enough consumer base to enable a state of stability. But no - short term gains are much more attractive now.
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>/poeg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTnNsIgQArM
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>>166140058
define shot gun
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okay, so in other news

on a wither cwc bladefall build, should i be using binos, consuming? apep's? dual scourge?

whats the best option for max deeps
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>>166140358
dual scourge
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>>166140213
multiple projectiles from the same cast of barrage can hit the same target. no other skill can do that, except for ones that have a secondary explosion that overlaps like fireball, because shotgunning was supposed to have been removed from the game a long time ago. Why does barrage get to keep it?
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How much base accuracy is needed for merc when I'm using swords with the implicit 18% accuracy and picking up the swords wheel on the left side of the tree?
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>>166140641
because they fire in a line and hit the target at different times? It's not technically shotgunning if the projectiles dont hit at the same time
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>check reddit
>retards fishing upvotes
>check poeg
>retards being noobs
>tfw too intelligent for poe communities
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>>166141086
>>>/discord/
and stay there
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Hall of Grandmasters is pretty bullshit on a VP build...
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Hall of Grandmasters is literally always bullshit. That's the entire point. Either your build isn't sufficiently bullshit to handle it or it is and it's FREE loot.
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>>166141930
Flameblast can do everything but that max block tank build
just depends on if you're lucky or not

But it's hilarious to destroy characters that people payed $500 for that dumb shit
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>>166141930
The last guy was a lvl 100 archer named Gucci with a GMP Split Arrow that basically 2 shot me while also having insane regen that was higher than my DPS...
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>>166142353
Masterrace HoG right now is Scorching Ray since it doesn't have PvP scaling yet. Explosive arrow is the old standby for it though.
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>>166142357
Yes.

Hall of Grandmasters is one of the prime currency farming maps specifically because 98% of builds simply cannot do it in many cases because some chucklefuck made an OP immortal build and exported it.
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>>166142556
>Scorching Ray since it doesn't have PvP scaling yet
lel
Too bad the loot sucks
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>>166142353
>But it's hilarious to destroy characters that people payed $500 for that dumb shit
There always seems to be entire groups of characters that just die instantly, and then one super min/maxed character that people have problems with. Just how bad are the majority of builds? Jeez
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>>166142357
The guy in hall of grandmasters with the cast on dead build that kills everything once he dies.
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HoG is a shitcore map

isn't there one random LA grandmaster that can crit you for 10k damage post mitigation? yeah good luck completing the map in hardcore
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>>166142807
There's a cast on dead guy that can kill you offscreen when he dies.
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There's 4 or 5 crit LA dudes. DanziG is the most well known of them, like DyNess is the most well known aegis tank, but there's a couple more that do is slightly differently or worse.

The Brass Dome, plus frost wall getting killed, makes the LA dudes a joke. The most threatening grandmaster is that one chucklefuck with cast on death. They added pvp scaling to Cast on death just because of that fucker. It's great.
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>>166142914
You just need to launch an attack, and alt+f4 before it deals the killing blow so you don't die. ez
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>>166143131
>wasting a portal you could sell to atlascucks
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>>166142914
>>166143131

What the fuck does he cast that kills everything?

How the fuck do you counter that shit? Spell block?
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How does accuracy work with totems that attack (Warchief, RAT)? Do they get the same accuracy as you, or do they lose the base accuracy from levels?
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>whisper a guy about a trade
>"I just listed that so people would talk to me."
Guy please.
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>>166144664
i bet you made this up for (You)s
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>>166144664
;-;7
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Can't believe I'm helping fund the xbone version -_-
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>>166144931
What unique did you want to make that they rejected?
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i am new
what is the funnest build

(i wanna go fast)
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>>166146026
flicker strike is the "gotta kill but bullets too slow" build
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>>166146026
vaal spark
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Kintsugi, Belly or Perfect Form for a block gladiator?
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>find the perfect item after literal hours of searching through shit, its essentially made specifically for your build and only your build
>poe.trade says seller is online
>that character does not exist
>that character does not exist
>that character does not exist

Im so fucking glad this game is killing itself with xbone. Nothing will make me happier than seeing this shitty ass incompetent jewish faggot company die like the piece of shit it is. Chris Wilson can suck a big nigger dick and get AIDS and die in a gutter for all I care
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>>166147186
coil
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What determines which endgame trials you come across in maps, and what determines whether or not you get one?

Is it completely random? I've had 2 still incomplete all the way to t11
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>>166147362
Why coil in Elemental Damage: The League? The one problem Block characters have is volatiles and coil doesn't help with those.
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>>166147335
If you click PM cant you get an account name? I'm a newshit but I feel like you should be able to do something with that.
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Which, if any, of the zana mods are worth running on high tier maps?
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Daily reminder:

All who bought MTX/Support Packs are nothing but milking cows.

All players are nothing but lab rats.

Congratulations players: even in virtual world you are being treated as non-humans - just like in real life.
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>>166148137
milk this *grabs dick nipples*
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Do you think Chris made a deal with Microsoft. As in, sold his soul to the devil? I dont think that happened since manipulators dont have a soul per se, but still, makes me wonder.
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Interesting, thread seems to be dead when it comes to serious stuff.
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You should have known the game was finished with Perandus + Labyrinth.
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>>166149839
>serious stuff
>questions about mechanics and builds that can be found with a simple google search
fuck off
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>>166149839
Path of exile has already been solved, there is nothing more to discuss.
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>>166147650
I tried, all the different names came up as doesnt exist
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New Zealand is probably welcoming this attempt to expand their reach in the game industry and disseminate some good ol' globalist values. Wonder if any funding fell GGG's way.
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>>166148137
>All who bought MTX/Support Packs are nothing but milking cows.

yea but my cow looks cooler then you
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>>166148137
Daily reminder that neet babies are the only ones bothered by this.

I have a job & money to spend on my hobbies. Why would I give a shit if the game got bad? I got thousands of hours of playtime and it was worth the money
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>buy an expensive ring from a guy, switch to my main for the transaction since I sent him a lowball offer on the character going to be using it and didn't want him to know it was me
>go to put it in my stash, cant find it
>spend 5 minutes looking through each and every pixel trying to figure out where the fuck it is in my inventory
>5 more minutes searching my bank even though I know I didnt bank anything
>finally come to the conclusion that he somehow scammed me even though I don't know how
>send him a message saying he scammed me, tell him to give me the ring or my money back
>he refuses
>call him a scammer in multiple global chats
>send an long message full of insults calling him a nigger jew, block and ignore

>awhile later
>have to log back on my main for something, open inventory and something finally clicks and I see the ring
>realize I took off one of my rings to use on another character and when I traded it auto equipped

uhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>166151634
>>call him a scammer in multiple global chats
you literal baby
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I'm about to play titan quest, what build should I go?
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>>166152132
all points into uninstall

play grim dawn instead
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>>166152339
Does grim dawn actually have fun unique builds and is it fun as a single player game?
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>>166152442

I make builds based around weapons and the constellation tree. You can make some pretty neat stuff IMO
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>>166152442
there are lots of different ways to build the characters and you can mix and match from multiple classes, and it is fun single player.
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>>166152339
Come on dude, I wanna play this one first before seeing the improvements they made.
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>>166152573
i was in the same position but i couldn't find a class and playstyle the clicked for me in titan quest. was a lot easier to find in grim dawn, especially with the improvements. good luck
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>>166139145
Probably the only f2p game you played as well.
PoE is just pay 2 play with a good demo, once you've got your 6 premium and your currency tab you're fine.

Don't give those cunts any money, though.
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>>166152442
It's slow and nothing deals damage and the spells tend to be pretty boring concept-wise as well.
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Should I play this or Diablo 3?

I'll listen to the first person who responds without any explanation.
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>>166142353
WI CwC SR can do everything offscreen, except mull gubben where you just take out CwC because all his damage is CWDT.
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>>166154397
diablo 3
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>>166154397
No, it's a casual game for casual shitters
Have some standards for fuck's sake
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>>166154758
I don't know what answer you're giving here.
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>GGG neglects racing community
>GGG neglects pvp community [by shitting out a bad update]
>GGG neglects hardcore pve community

Did I forget something?
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>le meanie GGG neglects this minority of their playerbase
grow up, crybaby
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>>166155726

Without this minority funding the game there would be no PoE you dumbo
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I just went and looked at the steam page for Marvel Heroes. Those recent reviews after the new patch. I didn't really enjoy that game but it seems they actually got shit on.

>when our drama seems small time
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>>166155909
racers make up a very small minority of the playerbase, pvp is a joke and you're a clown for even bringing it up, hardcore pve is still doing fine, anyone concerned with hardcore-exclusive mtx (I assume this is what you're crying about) is a shitcore player in my book
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which of the two atziri midbosses do i kill first again
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>>166156136
If they don't give a fucking about pvp or racing then they should just straight up remove those features instead of bamboozling around. Or at least move % dot damage the fuck away from Leo so I never have to bother with that bullshit

>hardcore pve is still doing fine
CI shitter detected
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>>166156662
titty bitch
dual striker if you struggle with fire thorns
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>>166146026
the fastest is flicker strike but you die fast because of it
there's no control and you won't notice reflect / volatiles in time

the fastest clear speed is vaal spark but it's kinda boring and also expensive
very efficient though

the fastest movespeed is evasion stacked queen of the forest, you can get like 450% movespeed
combine with cyclone for fun

in all cases raider ascendancy is the fastest

pick one and go life because being new and going ES is aids
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>>166156689
>they should just straight up remove those features instead of bamboozling around.
I don't remember the last time GGG advertised the game as a racing and pvp centric one, those two are very clearly and explicitly put on the backburner
>CI shitter detected
hardcore and softcore have the exact same balance issues, what is even your point?
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>>166156817
>in all cases raider ascendancy is the fastest
objectively wrong for a qotf build, pathfinder would be faster
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>>166157191
Because of the 15% movespeed 25% attack speed node, or something else?

What about pathfinder compares to ~10 super easily sustained frenzy charges with nearly doubled effects and also extra movespeed?
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>>166157538
PF:
+50% flask effect
=> jades are 4500 base evasion
=> stibnites are 150% increased evasion
=> quicksilvers are 60% move speed
not even accounting for of reflexes/adrenaline suffixes

+15% ms under flask effect, so always

straight up 40-50% extra ms from white flasks + ascendancy

Raider:
8% ms
2% ms per frenzy, 16-20% total

tops out at 28%

I don't consider attack speed relevant here, since we're talking about a ms qotf build
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>>166157881
pathfinder only gets 20% increased over raider. 30% is from tree which raider can and should take too.

so raider gets 3900 flat and 130% increased evasoion, and 52% movespeed

raider gets an extra 20% while phasing

Raider wins easily.
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>>166158126
ok they're more similar than i thought forgot avatar of the veil gave 20% ms lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcyCWNk145Y
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>>166156662
lmao when you don't just kill w/e because they are a joke
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>>166156662
If you have to worry about which order to kill them on normal atziri your build sucks.
If you're talking about uber then it depends on your build.
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>the fastest movespeed is evasion stacked queen of the forest, you can get like 450% movespeed
combine with cyclone for fun

f-fug I hadn't heard about this one yet, I'm almost done with my flicker build might try this next. Learning all the quirks with flicker wasn't very fun but its better later on. Does this build only get fast late game or are you fast early on as well?

Also not the sanic guy I'm just interested in going fast too.
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>>166160519
kill me >>166156817
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3.0 will make or break the game bois

what will you be playing is 3.0 is the worst expac of all time?
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>>166160662
you're 5 months too early
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>>166159231
>didn't use vaal haste or discipline during breach at all
deserved
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>>166161108

>mfw act 5 will be out just in time for early july
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UQ-KBLDAg0

/our guy/ ?
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>>166163414
poor man's ghudda
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anyone else staying at home on a friday night...
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>>166163775
i stay home every day. Last time I left my house was months ago probably
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what is better at facetanking and doing MASSIVE DAMAGE
scourge or howa
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how low do you guys think the ex:c ratio will go on bsc?
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scourge
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>scourge is a build
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>look through items
>click on one at the top listed for 5gcp and send the message
>retard gets mad saying he hasn't listed anything for 5gcp
>thinks I'm trying to scam him when it's literally his price and he set it
>tell him to look in his stash
>refuses and says I'm changing the price

Thanks for this player interaction, really reminded me why people are retards. I need this in my life to keep my elevated ego up.
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scourge is primarily physical so it's easy to get lots of leech
2% from claw implicit, 1.2% from blood rage, 1.2% from tree gives you 4.4% permanent leech. Atziri flask gives a little more on top of that.
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isn't scourge dps shit on bosses because they are immune to poison though
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what bosses are even poison immune
i've done all guardians+shaper with mine
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>>166163414
The madman
this guy is great
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>>166164951
usually it hits 30-40c doesn't it?
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I'm starting to have a sperg out. my tree in path of building is 101 points right now and in game it's 100. I've went over every single node and I can't find where this random fucking thing is
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>>166166187
No, last league it ended around 60c I want to say. Chaos is obscenely valuable this league for some reason. I guess people are going really fucking hard on trying to chance headhunter.
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>>166166343
bandits
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>>166166465
No I mean like I have 100 allocated and 1 point to spend in game, and 101 character planner. I figured out where it was though. It was a starting node clicked for some reason hard to see with a radius line going through it
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If scourge is so much better than howa why isn't it popular. HUH HUH HUH??
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because memethil
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ppl here were screaming howa even before he played the build though
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If [spellcaster weapon] is so much better than [attacker weapon] why isn't it popular. HUH HUH HUH??
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>scourge
>spellcaster
retard
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>generic damage
>somehow can't be used on spellcaster
based retard
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>>166166650
Because a huge portion of poe is flavour of the month and trends, you can see certain uniques are worth nothing but then they become popular and blow up. Effectiveness is secondary, it is what is more memetic that counts.
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CI feels fucking garbage without leech
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Is this the best ARPG?
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>scourge is like 6k total health pool unless you spend 100ex
>somehow better at facetanking than howa
lmao if you can survive a 1 shot
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Deadeye buff when?
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shut up idiot
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>>166168084
RETARD
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Don't let this shitposting distract you from the fact GGG_Neon died at level 99 in BHC
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>tfw doing a dual Shockwave totem Trickster
having a lot of fun desu
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>>166168715
>Trickster totem build
????????????
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>>166168715
>>166168948
lmao replying to yourself
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>4 Uul breach in a row
>which makes it to 6 in of the past 10 breach
what the actual fuck is going on today
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>>166168715
>tfw 20 second viperstrike juggernaut
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you idiots funded an xbox game
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hmm aafter doing some testing it's better to get resist jewels and get a stronker ring than a super resist ring
rlly makes me think
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why are you still here
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why are you
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>>166171482
how the fuck are you gonna eclipse 4 10% damage nodes with 1 ring you fucking idiot
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>>166172149
Are you okay?
I'm taking those jewel sockets anyways. I just mean one of the affixes on the jewel in addition to damage ones is instead a + all resist one so I can switch a ring to have int/ele weapon damage instead of this monster like 50/50/50 resists ring
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>>166172319
btw it isn't all jewel sockets. Just 2
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Stop playing PoE
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What are some good starting builds for breach? Just to point out I'm not a very experienced player (I have 150 hours and a 69 level summoner, played before the rework and new Arc came out, though I'd get back into the game on Breach, have forgotten a lot about it tho).
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>>166173349
Play LL spark. Cheap and easy for a new player. If you like going fast and killing bosses easily roll this character
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>>166173349
flameblast totems, don't listen to this guy >>166173465
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>>166173715
Don't listen to this guy.
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>>166172319
>>166172394
so you're giving up 30% dmg to get 20% max all resists when you could get that on your gear much more efficiently

okay bud, you've surely stumbled on a new secret meta
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>>166173981
It's not some secret meta. It's just what's best for my build. I want to be 169 all resist. How am I giving up 30% damage? I literally tested against using a better ring and using resist on a couple jewels and the other way around. I come out ahead with more dps/ES the jewel route rather than having more damage affix instead of the resist.
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>>166173349
>150 hours
>experienced
bruh i have 430 hours and still learning shit
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>>166173715
>>166173849
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>join a rotation
>guy says order is up without actually posting anything else

what does this mean? everyone else seemed to get it

I sat there praying it wasnt me next so I wouldnt look like a retard but thankfully I was last so it worked out
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>>166174716
Look at party status. Press S and got to party
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>>166174716
email ggg about daily rota bug
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>tfw no no lvl cap race
why even live
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>>166174943
is it way easier to level up to 100 now? saw some 9x players logging on after a while
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Chaos innoculation?

More like Skill Innoculation
>>
I don't get it
>>
Me either. Why are people so rude here. It's like they want a dead game
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CI now makes you take 50% less chaos damage, and chaos doesn't penetrate ES. Is it balanced?
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>Let's make CI a watered down LL
great idea, retard
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How come no one here replies to posts directly?
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It's a meme
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>>166175672
More game for me
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Why does Hearthstone get so much flak here? sounds like a pretty fun and social game, unlike PoE
https://clips.twitch
.tv/bmkibler/AverageLyrebirdMingLee
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I'm excited for the xbone version and theres nothing you faggots can do to stop me.

Just wanted to drop in and say that. Also thanks PeeCee for funding the port.
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>Why does "blank" get so much flak in a general where everyone is an asshole
gee I wonder
>>
there's nothing wrong with the xbox version i'd actually play that if i had irl friends can you imagine how fun it'd be to crack a beer and just chill out with your bros trying to pk them in lab and and it's all in good fun and you don't care because you play softcore
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Why don't you go to standard breach when you die in hc breach
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>>166176009
enjoy paying to play a f2p game online, retards
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economy
challenges
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>paying m$ to play poe online
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How can I make some quick money i'm only level 46 but wanting to buy the jewellers touch prophecy for 28 c
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You don't buy it and keep leveling up
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only welfare poorshits get triggered they have to pay a small fee for entertainment lol
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>paying microsoft to play a FREE online game
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>>166176228
>Not gamesharing with your normie friends for free online
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keep the tears coming, virgins
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its like you're not already paying your internet provider or something
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>>166177048
>>166177048
>>166177048
>>166177048
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>>166174578
>Just to point out I'm not a very experienced player (I have 150 hours and a 69 level summoner
Try reading nigger
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