/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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>There is only one card left. It is The Shuffle.

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>>128564745
THERE IS NO PRIDE IN THE FLESH OF POINTY EARS

THEY MUST BE CLEANSED

>>128565101
>Emergency Deck of Escape
>It is The Swap
Well at least now I know the deck of escape is not actually for escaping.

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This is great.

>>128565229
It is if you've read ID on the deck beforehand! You can do that for every single card in the deck. Having an "The Alchemist" or "Tomb" stocked up is pretty neat.

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>>128564745

If you're completely new to Sil, watch this series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dthj73CBpRU

UI is bling
Spoilers are complexity
Bloat is gameplay

If anyone needs some starter tips on cavalry, lemme know. I saw an anon or two in the previous thread asking how 2 cavalry.

How do I get crawl 0.18 offline? It seems that the newest I can download the normal way is 0.17

>>128567757
You need to look for the trunk downloads.

Are you on Windows or Linux?

>>128567859
Linux, thanks

>>128567902
Ah. You should use git or something but here's the trunk page:

http://crawl.develz.org/trunk

>>128567902
You can compile the source pretty easily on Linux using git to stay up to date and ahead of the builds.

>The Orcish Mines are now two levels, and only spawn plain orcs as part of bands; gold generation is doubled to account for the shorter branch.
So now Orc is just even more straightforward about being a glorified shopping mall?

>>128567902
>>128568153

Also, you can download the Windows version of trunk and run it via Wine. Plays just as good as the native version imo.

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Well the good news are that my test worked perfectly

the bad news are that it only works in 3.5

so I'm going to play 3.5

The other good news are that I can make A LOT of MGS jokes

>brother
>clone monster

>>128568947
>playing an old version so you can cheat

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>>128569193
yes anon, I'm hogging all the fun and leaving you with none
Watchugonnadoaboutit

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>>128569295

you are burdened

you are also completely blind because it's at the bottom of your screen in neon yellow

I suggest wishing for a pair of lenses

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>>128569327

>>128566293
>watching a tutorial on how to play

completely against the spirit of the game

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biiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch

i want to learn casters by playing a gargoyle wizard, what god should i worship? what the hell is a caster supposed to be training in what order as far as skills go?

optimally i want both tornado and firestorm to ruin ziggurats forever

So, I've cloned the git repository for crawl, but 'make' just gives me this
>make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
I also tried make crawl, which instead results in "make: Nothing to be done for `crawl'."
Anyone willing to tell me where I fucked it?

>>128572062
Sounds like you aren't in the folder with the makefile

>>128572062
git clone https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git
//assuming cd for change directory
cd crawl
git submodule update --init
//assuming cd for change directory, use forward slashes if necessary
cd crawl-ref/source
make

>>128572431
>>128572645
Okay, thanks anons

>>128572062
>>128572645
Oh yeah and if you want tiles, append TILES=y to the line "make". You need a couple dependencies though, advpng and pngcrush or something like that.

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>>128569327
>tfw someone saves your webm

I know have the only half-troll weaponmaster on the PCB ladder!

I faulted retardedly and died to a single slower-than-me monster that's vulnerable to teleother

>>128573414
anonnnnnnnnnnn

>>128573414
>know have

half troll indeed.

>>128571559
if you want to do mega zigs, you probably want a high HP character, because nothing protects you like high HP does, and by the time you've gotten to a zig, there's a good chance you've found statue form or necromutation to replace gargoyle's innate torment resistance.

Good caster gods are of course vehumet or sif muna. If you want to bomb ziggurats, you'll probably want to switch to makhleb in the lategame, because you'll probably have found some source of channeling, and only good players can clear ziggurats without makhleb.

>latest PR for cata enables a rough version of 3d vision, enabling you to see whats on lower and higher Z levels

its happening! sorta. eventually...

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where am I
what is this

>>128575289
You are drunk

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Half-way through.
3 uniques on single floor, though. Accursed, the disarming orc and spooky dark things that I can't hurt.

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>>128575393
Hardly! Just discovering the wonderful world of hacking the net for the first time.

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>>128575260
Oh boy, I can't wait.

Damn early game is so hard for edains... Natural selection is harsh. I wonder why you only see elf skeletons in Angband.

>>128577467
BECAUSE OUR MEN TAKE THE CORPSES OF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS AWAY FROM THE CLUTHES OF THE ENEMY
UNLIKE THOSE TREEHUGGING BACKSTABBERS

>>128577467
Because the orcs like to eat men more than elves.

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I'm a lazy player, so I like small levels.

Then you get floors like this. The rest of the knights on the right side.

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Dios mio.

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>>128577668
Shit.
Camelot is death with small levels but you have to get pretty unlucky too.
That's why I keep them on as well.

>>128557658

The steam version of Qud gets small updates each friday. Currently the devs are adding a "weekly seed" option so you can play the same character as strangers on the internet.

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>>128578897
>small updates each friday
emphasis on the small. They're probably byte-sized.
The nerve of those fuckers.

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>the -1 quickblade of the ass (drain, Rc+, Contam*)

page 10 bump

>>128565117
I can't get a fucking dwarven smith build off the ground without wasting exp on melee/evasion in early game. I want to take advantage of that (alleged) guaranteed forge on 100 ft but I keep fucking splatting, especially since forges always seem to be guarded.

>>128584258
I feel you anon, I just splatted a dorf. I just went for high strength melee and not smithing, but I found a forge on 350 and used some xp to make a 4d4 great axe, twas fun

>>128584258
>>128584638
Smithing builds are hard as fuck - leaved them for win two, at least.

Oh god.

After FORTY FOUR GREE splats, I finally feel good about this one. Have a quarterstaff and book of the earth and everything.

Now I'm fleeing in terror from an ancestor's ghost who's LRDing me like there's no tomorrow.

Pray for me.

So, in Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup, a staff of earth is a decent melee weapon for an earth elementalist, yeah?

>>128587510
>So, in Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup, a staff of earth is a decent melee weapon for an earth elementalist, yeah?

Yep. It really helps out. But so do your broken spells..

>>128587668
What level of evocations should I am for midgame if I wanna get that crushing going?

Also, yeah, I'm totally in love with the earth school. I've had Shatter castable just once, but it was addicting.

>>128587960
I wouldn't worry about evocations until late game unless you have something really nice to evoke.

>>128590146
Got a rod of iron, my staff of earth, and a crystal ball of energy.

I have Iron Shot and Magma Bolt reliably castable. Working on my defences. Baily just handed me an enchanted Steam Dragon Armor, which is nice.

>>128569327
is this girl pregnant because she looks so

>>128591868
It's a poofy shirt you degenerate

>>128593096
>It's a poofy shirt
it's what they always say :^)

God, I don't think I can handle any more tonight.

Why the fuck did that orc knight berserk? Why are monsters that can't see invisible so fucking good at tracking invisible players now?

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>>128591868
Are you trying to arouse me?

DYWYPI?

>>128598150
I'd rather not know

/rlg/ is dead
PCB killed it again

>>128598150
>Do You Want Your Penis Inspected?
Yes, preferably by a Kobold or a large orc girl.

Oh shit, got a wish from a Darkforge Pool. Nice.

....what do I even wish for?

I'm almost tempted to go for something lame as shit like a fireproof blanket/rings of ice just cause they're something I could really use right now for the Tower of Eternal Flames.

Maybe some potions of cure corruption to trivialize the wyrm?

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Is this hat worth it, anons? the active seems really useful but idk if I want to commit to a piece of cursed equipment.

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>>128601748
You're being a dumdum on purpose, right?
Because jokes and stupidity are very hard to differentiate between in only written text.

>>128601748
kek
My serious advice is to wear it, activate it, then rest until it recharges and store it. Equipment only recharges while worn.

Also I wish it were permanently or at least heavily cursed for maximum net neutrality.

>>128602368
I would probably wear it if it wasn't -2 con.

I also found Thengel on the same level, which is almost entirely useless for me because rage mages don't care about their Int, Wis, or max SP.

But an infinite source of uncursing is nice to have in the house.

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>trying to add in some artefacts to PCB
>follow Chris' commits to the letter
>delete the data folder's contents
>re-compile
>they still don't exist

I think the 4.0.0 lib/edit files are broken or getting cached somewhere weird. I have no idea why this patch wouldn't work.

If anyone could tell me where I am going wrong, it would be much appreciated.

Here is the patch in question: https://bpaste.net/raw/71660c3a11a2

>>128602168
>Because jokes and stupidity are very hard to differentiate between in only written text.
Ey yo anon you might literally have aspergers or autism.

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>>128603970
Ok, that's good then.
I knew in my heart that all those millions of absolutely stupid Crawl weapon questions over the years were just jokes.
Because no one is really that stupid.

>>128604470
Warms your heart, doesn't it?
I think the filename made it pretty obvious myself.

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>>128604623

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>>128601748
Good activations general.

i dived to D:4 as a MiBe. Already have 7 on weapon skill and level 6 on barely over 600 turns, from killing two uniques. Holy shit.

>>128604470
Hey what's better, this +6 mace or a +1 quickblade of venom? I'm worshiping Fedhas btw.

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>>128606039
Just after killing grinder, the other was blork.

>>128606196
Better this!
*unzips dick*

>>128606343
so the 1" quickblade of venom then?

I found a ring of ESP orcs and a flail of *slay orc* just before entering the orc caves. Pretty cool, although mostly I'm just shouting orcs to death instead.

>>128606684
If you dick drips with poison when in your hand, something is very wrong.

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So I'm starting to like Sil, although I am also relatively new to it as well. I'm in a small situation, but I'm playing it slowly. Any tips? Also is the rag any significance.

>>128567126
Lay them on me

I do fine until post warg quest where my horse inevitably dies to hounds when I try to power level

>>128607120
a) you can probably pull that orc pack around and go back up those stairs unless there are more already moving to surround you
b) get rid of your torches and use that lesser jewel!
c) the rag probably has a shitty enchantment on it.

>>128606229
And this is after munching on a skybeast on D:8 at 2300 turns. Shouldn't be a problem seeing I'm the absolute tabman combo, except for that "wasting away" one.

Anyone know how to remove a macro in DCSS? Accedentally set the trigger to "z" instead of F7. Problem.

>>128607120
lesser jewel in your inventory is essentially an inexhaustible torch so you should be wearing that once you get a chance

you should wear the ring until it is IDed

the rag is either an artifact or more likely what in any other *band would be called an ego. I'm guessing it is a +stealth one but who knows, I'm fairly new too. Your current studded leather of venom's end is likely better.

You should probably be wielding the special bastard sword over the starting curved sword if only to ID it, though there's a chance it's a cursed thing (though some curses are still useful for a while e.g. Fury)

I guess try backing away until you can find a stair, even a downstair. Then you can take it back upstairs immediately if you don't want to be at 250, at least while you try to find a safe space to rest. You may be doomed though.

There's some chance that one of your potions is e.g. confusion and that throwing it at the orc closest could help but I recommend fleeing and hoping for a stair

>>128607761
Your image seems to have wasted away. You should read remove curse.

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>>128607761
Forgot the picture.
Now it's just the wasting away one, as quaff-IDing a mut potion cured the clumsiness. He got two levels of the mutation, so now it's Dex +2,

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>>128607761
Mutagenic corpses I believe are biased towards negatives.

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>>128608171
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>128601536
amulet of life saving if you have khelevaster alive yet

otherwise it depends on your char and you didn't bother to post any details about him or her

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>>128608171
What did you DOOOOOO

>>128608205
At the end I didn't even have a chance to feel the effects because the tab got too deep inside me while killing a scorpion, getting him poisoned, and the first and second things I quaffed were a potion of poison and then berserk rage. Almost poetic, I suppose.

>>128608410
If I was smart I would've come here before going past Khelevaster, but hindsight is 20/20. Wouldn't go for an Ultra regardless, but the scroll would be nice.

Level 24 Dwarven Priest. Have the Rolf Combo, so I might go for Find Weakness and continue the ball rolling on wrecking shit in Melee.

Need to go through Tower of Eternal Flames next. Wands of Digging are made of teak in this game, so that's a no go. So I either get rings of ice and pickaxe through or Mystic Shovel. Or just try to find the rings of ice naturally / hope for the Mystic Shovel book in the Rift.

4 Corruptions, none are that bad except that the most recent one is the -9 DV for +6 damage one, so that'd be nice to get rid of before more stack on top of it.

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>>128608171
Use the auto-destroyer, they said. It's easy, they said.

>>128610584
The default settings don't even destroy the trash wands anymore.
I wonder what that anon did to receive such a horrible fate.
Personally I only changed the resist heat and cold potions pickup and tinker with the armor and weapon auto-destroy levels.

>>128609294
>Wouldn't go for an Ultra regardless, but the scroll would be nice

he is mostly saved for the stuff which he gives to you which is already worth several wishes

>Need to go through Tower of Eternal Flames next. Wands of Digging are made of teak in this game, so that's a no go. So I either get rings of ice and pickaxe through or Mystic Shovel. Or just try to find the rings of ice naturally / hope for the Mystic Shovel book in the Rift.

i never really had problems with wands of digging there... but then, i think i always had a ring of ice because i always went for the best dwarven mystic award instead of the axe

to waste a wish for rings of ice doesn't seem that good imo... i'm sure you still have places to visit where you can find it

so, what to consider imo:

find weakness - note that you will need a lot of time before you train it though
seven league boots - drastically increase your speed, in the wilderness too
scrolls of corruption removal - bless them then btw
archery - the best way to get rid of the bosses, you need to train bows though
arrows of demon slaying - the best way to kill acw, if you don't have them yet, yet again you need to train bows at least a bit

>>128611771
>archery
I want to say archery the skill does very little, though maybe it was changed.

>arrows of demon slaying
Can you even wish for that? Or is that a separate type of arrow as opposed to an ego?

If you really want to wish for something to kill the wyrm, get spellbooks of [ball spell]. I think you have to use the priest spell names.

>>128610584
The alternative is manually destroying your staves of regeneration. Your time is much too valuable for that.

>>128612347

>I want to say archery the skill does very little, though maybe it was changed

the main thing why it's picked it's the access to lightning shot and eagle eyed

>Can you even wish for that? Or is that a separate type of arrow as opposed to an ego?

afaik you can (also google wishing for demon slaying)
don't wish for generic slaying though, afaik you will get random slaying ammo like giant slaying or something, slaying is ego

also
>get spellbooks of [ball spell]
acid ball

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So the ToME orc expansion is coming pretty soon, have a couple of Steam Giant advertisements

I posted these once last month, but they're still the most entertaining completely-non-spoilery thing I can show

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>>128613902

>>128612692
I don't think plain ol' "staffs of regeneration" exist in PCB.

Is that some other variant?

If its autodestroy works like PCB's you would want a rule like
>!staffs:regeneration$

The $ is the end-of-string indicator, so it won't match "staffs of regeneration of <thing>.

>>128613902
>>128614080
I feel like I'd rather stick a pair of scissors down my urethra handle first than play toME again.
Thanks for the info though.

>>128614518
Handle first is gonna be a lot less painful anon.

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Getting pretty fast now. We Serpent-speed soon.

>>128611685
Here's my autodestroyer settings from when I blew that staff up. If you can find out why I blew it up, please tell me (usually all staves are ID'd and left on the floor).

http://pastebin.com/zXa6VLpL

>>128615318
No clue how that worked, unless it somehow fell afoul of the "worthless items" filter. Which doesn't really make sense.

>>128615318
>>128616026
this. I'm fucking stumped. !worthless in my experience only sees things like pottery shards and other garbage.

I could maybe see an unid staff being worthless. Maybe if you had the stone of lore shit would happen in a weird order and the game would ID it after deciding to autodestroy.

>>128616026
>>128616245
Oh well.
I added
~rods
~staves
~wands
Under the unaware items line.
There is no good reason to blow up devices since they're all useful to someone aside from a couple of the staves.

>>128616582
and you probably already know this but higher-up lines in the file overrule lower ones

>>128616903
Yeah, but I have absolutely no idea why Regeneration: Healing got destroyed. I've been finding a ton of regular staves, Regeneration Staves, and more and none of them get destroyed.

I haven't played a roguelike in months, any recommendations?

>>128617454
yeah I'm completely stumped.

>>128617626
Infra Arcana

>>128607843
'~' 'm' 'r', it leads you through it in the menus

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You know you want my scroll.

>>128620804
that crotch mouth is so disturbing

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>>128621043
>He doesn't have a mouth vagina

>>128621097
if you have a vagina you are probably not 'he' anymore

>>128622498
What if it's a masculine vagina?

Lazy angel mode engaged. Let's do this.

>>128620804
I'm getting Vietnam style flashbacks from my shieldmaster.

Fuck that thing and everything it stands for.

>>128621043
also the psycho spears he's holding
goddamn that spell has cost me some beloved dudes

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Draw your character time! Hard mode: Do it worse than mine

pcb demon pact warlock here

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>>128626489
Lazy angel.


I am art master

>>128614518
Hey anon

We all know you hate ToME

But you really don't have to reply to every post about ToME talking about how much you hate it

You can just assume we already know

>>128628015
The better question is why you assume there is only one person here who dislikes ToME4. Or maybe why you respond to every post disparaging ToME4 with a shitpost like this.

We get it, you think ToME4 gets a bad rap. Nobody cares though.

>>128626489
Can i post my latest win one? I didnt start a new game yet..

>>128607518
Ok.

First, before you do the warg quest you might want to look for a wand of heal monster as well as haste monster. You should be able to find some before you get to the wargs. Try to find more than one of these as they tend to either explode because of curses or get destroyed by fire hounds or traps.

Second, keep an eye out for magical figurines in the wand shop in town as sometimes you will get a unicorn or some thing that you can ride that is tougher than the starting horse.

Third, keep an eye for staves of summon monster (not summoning, those are bad!) or summon hydra. Keep in mind that the quality of the summoned monsters depends on dungeon depth so the deeper you the better the chances that you can summon a sweet mount. You can find these staves in the black market in the starter town.

Do keep in mind that as a cavalry guy you have short and long bows as well as the yumi skills set to beginner so you should stock up on some phase door scrolls. With the phase doors and a decent supply of arrows you should be able to soften up most threats before they start scratching up your ride and you will build the riding skill up every time you shoot while mounted.

As for weapon selection, you may need to diversify as decent lances are hard to come by in the beginning so look for a decent warhammer or anything with "Riding" in the description.

Let me know if any of that advice helped, please.

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We Serpent Speed now.
Okay it's not really worth losing my second pip of Acid resistance.

>>128603532
Well, 4.0 is an experimental version.
I don't know why but now devices are somehow randomized, too. But not completely randomized.

I don't know. I'm pretty sure that if you want to mod PCB you should first try with 3.5, but I tried playing that again and I just couldn't go back to the old UI.

>>128630461
That's an issue with the way that the ego index works.

The new device system just uses the ego index, but there aren't enough values to correctly call the required elements to forge a device now (device type, device effect, device ego) since there are only 2 values in object type. Chris needs to devise a new system for it to work.

>>128613902
I usually stay silent about tome because I played it some years ago for the sake of it even if I didn't really like it

But this shit I dredmor tier.

I wouldn't buy that on the very basis that this was in the game.

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>>128626489
Golem rage-mage, shouting everything to death. Well mostly. For uniques I've been spamming rage-phase-door and using my crossbow.

The boots are a pretty nice find. Pink obviously because of the nexus resistance.

>>128631185
Best of luck to ye, rage mages fucking suck.

God this is fucking terrible. I have an otherwise exellent Gargoyle Earth Elementalist with Statrot 2. I'm losing him slowly; I'm losing stats faster than they replenish. Rather than 14/27/14, I'm at fucking 4/16/4.

GIVE ME A FUCKING CMUT. PLEASE. THIS IS PURE FUCKING HORSESHIT.

>>128631457
They seem cool in theory, but yeah. They only have very few attack spells and they get something like 3 blows per round. It's fun to deal with big packs of enemies by funneling them into a corridor and hitting 20 at once with a shout, but I'm going to be pretty boned once I start seeing nasty spellcaster uniques that I can't kite forever with phase door + ranged attacks.

>>128630706
But the thing is that when I looked at the rewards for the other quests (example: Wand of rockets/disint/rod of mama balls for a specific high quest if you're a devicemaster and a wand of frost bolts for the warg quest if you are a devicemaster) the wand code , which is 269: xxx, was fine. Those four items had what you could call a "3.5 code" but only apparently, since when I looked at the list of the wands in prefsomething by looking at the code, I only got different results. Say that wand of rockets is 269:559. You check for "559" in the GIT repository and find it's defined as "rockets". So you think, wowie gee I am going to grab the ID code of another wand since it's supposed to work the same and use it!

Wrong. Because for some reason yes, rockets matches but frost bolts does not and so don't all the other Wands.

Only rockets.

I just

I don't know

I will probably spawn myself a rune sword as a zerker as a thief quest reward like that dude did and hope I have fun.

>>128629629
Can you go into mount selection and race choices ive heard that demigod of aphrodite is pretty good but is it worth the exp penalty

>>128632052
Demigod is always worth the penalty because of the 2 op mutations you get

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What fresh hell is this.

I need some manaballs.

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Christ that burst damage from the world is scary.

>>128631706
Yeah. I mean I made all the changes and it _should_ work, but it simply doesn't. It's really aggravating actually. I tried to make a similar change to fix the bug with the logrus master quest reward.

The values must be getting cached in an encrypted format somehow or placed in a wierd position on our systems.

Try some Sil man.

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Fuck your confusion spam, I'm gonna go grind some hounds

>>128632502
>Try some Sil man.
Sil is too pure. I like to find exploits in my vidyargems.

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This counteracts my laziness health malus quite well

Shame I only have 1.5 blows of 34 damage.

>>128633114
>33 damage at level 20something on a 300% XP modifier race

Are you just spamming mana bolt all over the place

>>128633274
Well he would be if the knights in camelot didn't all reflect bolts.

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>>128633274
It's all I can do.

That, and bask in fail rates.

When I get summon monsters I will become the qythulug hiding behind great wyrms and whatnot.

>>128633448
Are you having fun?

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>34 damage
>implying I get 34 WHOLE POINTS of damage

I was mistaken.


>>128633493
Yes. Very much so.

Playing shitty characters makes for an interesting playstyle.

>>128633554
Godspeed then angeldude

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>>128626489
Tonberry monk of nature with pretty good stealth.

Not pictured: 3 friendly Great Bile Wyrms in pokeballs

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awkward?

why would I feel awkward? I'm gay af bro.

how do I fight these wights?

>>128633725
I think I'll be fine until I beat Smaug, THEN I'll be in deep shit.

Just need to play like a devicemaster (scum for wands like no tomorrow).

>>128634008
You're probably wearing some equipment which draws wraiths to you

>>128634047
Sounds exactly like my old half titan archaeologist.
For the sake of your sanity, I hope you find some yeek gloves and a wand of clone monster, because no man should be subjected to that horrible punishment.

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My angel cant get enough of all these balls.

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oh fuck

walked straight into a trap

>>128631630
good thing stats dont matter in DCSS

>>128634828
nice formatting Chris

>charge and assassination don't stack
FUCK YOU DEV

>>128632052
Mount selection - dragons. Seriously, work your way up to where you can either pokeball or buy a magical figurine of an ancient dragon or better.

The reason I say dragons is because they tend to be the fastest mounts. Once you have a dragon work on getting a dracolisk or a greater bile wyrm or venom wyrm. Also, the longer you fight and ride on a mount the faster your mounted movement speed becomes so find a good ride and stick with it for a while. Avoid crystal anything as they reflect heal monster and haste monster spells.

I like to play half-titan for the free probing and high strength and constitution.

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>Gachapin breathes chaos for half my health
>teleport away
>land on top of an amulet of rChaos

>>128635529
>a sexy half titan girl will never probe your butt
Why live

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>>128634892

worst Sil player reporting in

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Just made this

I love this game

>>128636094
Try a stealth build for a change if youre tired of splatting

>>128613902
Fuck yes.
>>128614518
>I don't enjoy urethral penetration
Well yeah, not all of us can be patrician.

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Alright.

Here's the idea.


I go to dragon lair and PRAY TO FUCKING GOD for a Planetar or Solar

>>128637798
>pay4tiles version
10/10 would shill again!!!

>>128638117
>dragon lair
go to r'lyeh silly

>>128638231
I really dont want to get ambushed over deep water.

>lesser krakens and fasticolcons breath, you die

>>128638297
Mine, then. There's just four tiles of deep water and you are bound to grab one of the best angel types instead of just having a chance

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Whatever.

>>128638445
I told you

fucking mine

So,in poschengband,i sometimes get some statue items as drops ( stone statue of a paladin,for example) ,they weight a fucking ton and ... anyone knows what do they do ? I have no clue whatsoever , wands and scrolls of identify and *identify* tell me nothing...

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That's more like it.

Now give me a gravity/nexus beam.

>>128638874
Yhey're a really exploity item that nobody really knows how to use, but by looking at the code I found out!

SPOILERS BELOW
They have no use and are only there for fun

there's also an autodestroyer option to autodestroy statues if you don't actually like fun, it's just commented out

and here is the part where I write random stuff just to make you think this was a real spoiler

did you know that horses eat their own poop

that's fucking gross man

gross as hell

This guy is such a nasty cunt.

>>128638874
They're just cute.
>>128638907
Chaos Strike is actually shit. Shhiiiiiit.
You want SOUND BALLS.

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>>128639057
Nasty curse.

>>128638874
This is really important loot that is only second to artefacts in priority. You put them in the museum and enjoy the fact that you contributed to the culture of the town.

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Fuck yeah

Devices


How does protection from evil work?

>>128638874
>>128639025

Dont read that spoiler, finding that thing out for yourself is one of the most fun parts of the game.

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Double fuck yeah

An actual good weapon.

>>128639374
>How does protection from evil work?
evil monsters (90% of the dragons and 90% of the endgame) end up missing a lot more in melee, but that's it.

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Pretty much the perfect weapon for a useless angel.

I can probably take on Camelot now that I can actually damage the knights.

>>128639530
I thought that the chance to hit was somehow based on level in a way that made it mostly useless versus scary enemies? I guess I'm remembering wrong.

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Pendragon: 0
Angel who can't be bothered reading the bible: 1

Had a very close run-in with Gawain

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I guess the game really wants me to be vulnerable to shards

>>128639752
eh, could be. I never really used it much.

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>>128640267
The earth hound breathes, your everything breaks!

>>128640267
>killing Arthur
Kaamelott resistance is not happening because of you, you monster

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I've had enough for tonight, best of luck to the rest of ye poor souls.

>>128641156

>>128641476
> >>128641156 (You)
y..yes ?

>>128639752
Nah its still good late game, and it doesnt make them miss it repels some of their blows

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Throwing master race reporting in
90% of Gorgol hp in one hit

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Note: I started this fight at level 48, almost level 49. With Capped Str, Con, and nearly capped Dex. All other stats at 18/xx or 18/xxx.

>>128641939
>Richard Wong
NOT EVEN ONCE

He's 'avoid at all costs' tier.

Pretty much Dio, if Dio was a threat.

>>128641783
is throwing like a skill or something
I've never heard of people throwing weapons in sil as a tactic

>>128642043
Here's the monster info for further reference as to why this fucker is the worst:
[U] Richard Wong, Master of Time (White 'p')
=== Num:880 Lev:81 Rar:3 Spd:+25 Hp:6000 Ac:190 Exp:45000
He is normally found on dungeon level 81, and moves extremely quickly. Killing this evil Human is worth about 1215000.00 points for a 1st level character. He reflects bolt spells. He usually appears with escorts. He is magical, casting spells intelligently which produce water balls, psycho-spear, cause brain smashing, produce mana bolts, terrify, confuse, heal-self, dispel-magic, blink-self, teleport-self, stop the time, teleport to, teleport away or summon aid; 1 time in 2. He can pass through walls. He regenerates quickly. He resists acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison, water, nexus and time. He cannot be confused or slept. He takes a while to see intruders, which he may notice from 1000 feet. He may carry up to 14 good objects. He can hit to time with damage 5d8, hit to time with damage 5d8, hit to time with damage 5d8, and kick to disenchant with damage 8d10. (Hengband 1.6.0)

>>128642074
It uses your melee skill. It's actually pretty effective, but probably not worth it on elves since they have archery affinity for ranged combat

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>>128642128
>dispel-magic,
stopped reading right there. I hate that spell so much you can't understand.

>>128642214
*stops tim*
*teleports behind u*
*dispells magic*
Nuthin personel, kid....

>>128642150
What does archery affinity do?

>>128642642
1 free ability + 1 bonus skill point

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Apropos randart names anyone?

>>128642043
>>128642128
The game is more fun when you fight things you should not.

>>128642721
Saving that picture in my porn folder.

>>128642721
There's a difference between things you shouldn't fight because they'll be difficult and things you shouldn't fight because they'll be an asshole and drain all your stats and XP and disenchant all your gear.

>>128642819
Suck it up, you baby.
I had fun.

>>128628015
I also dislike ToME4 because the tiles look like ass and it's got an autistic resistance checklist oriented gameplay I hate. I also don't like the sifting through piles of useless loot as reward for beating enemies, nor the unironically cringe-worthy writing.
This is also the first time I've posted about ToME4 as well, before you decide everyone who doesn't like what you like is the same person.

>>128643253
>T. butthurt dcss dev

>>128639025
kek

>>128643323
I'll make sure to get an opinion that doesn't hurt your faggot feelings next time.

>>128643253
I agree with
>the tiles look like ass and it's got an autistic resistance checklist oriented gameplay
but I actually like the gameplay

>>128629629
How do you intentionally go looking for a specific item like Wands of Heal/Haste Monster? Just spend a bunch of time sweeping the dungeon until it pops?

I guess there's also shop restock? But with my luck they never seem to spawn good stuff

>>128645945
>Just spend a bunch of time sweeping the dungeon until it pops?
yep
>>128645945
>I guess there's also shop restock?
"trash" wands don't spawn in shops.
only in the black market.

>>128645945
Turn on always fun levels at birth and you'll get tons of trash wands on level 1 vaults!

>>128645945
Well you can also look up the item's native depth and specifically spend time around that level.

>>128646241
>Turn on always fun levels at birth
>stronghold:1
>morgoth hits you with a mana ball!
>you die...

>>128646302
>Well you can also look up the item's native depth
>4.0
hehehehehe

If I delete Morgue files, will ghost be gone? They keep fucking my shit up.

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>>128634828
>it's no longer called a Wand of Cold Balls

>>128646709
>not wanting F R E E exp

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>>128646709
you're already playing an easy game.

>>128647491
>>128647574
Is still too hard.

>>128647472
Really? confirmed for objectively worse than vanilla

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>>128647684
then change Class. Race. Stop trying to kill everything you see. Change game. Change genre. Change general.

No matter what you choose, stop complaining about inane things.

>>128648068
How about you devour a plate of cock?

I simply asked a question about morgue.

>>128648196
you were not asking a question about the morgue, you are playing like an idiot and instead of learning from your mistakes instead ask us to give you an eraser.
You will never git gud with that kind of attitude.

Anyway what tells you that I would not enjoy that plate of cock

>>128646709
no, you need to delete files under saves/bones.

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>>128648196
>>128647684
>>128646709
play online so we can help (insult and sexually harass) you

>>128648326
It'd be great if elitist faggots like you trying to tell others how to play game and seething with rage everytime they read something that doesn't agree with their worldview just fuck off.

It's just a game you dumb shit.

>>128648447
Thank you.

>>128648637
>>It's just a game you dumb shit.
I bet you like tome you sack of shit
I'm onto you

>>128648675
There is literally nothing wrong with playing ToME.

>>128648637
If it's just a game why do you care enough you need to cheat?

>>128648728
see, I knew you were a faggot

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Fact: it is a bad idea to recommend DCSS to a new player

>>128648903
Indeed, it's far too easy to cheat and the game creates all sort of bad habits.

>>128648903
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup is the only Roguelike worth a damn, fuck off and die.

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>>128649085
>replying to shitpost with even more shitpost
you make momji sad.

Is it just me or are blasty mages in PCB even more of a chore than the normal game? It's like I have to scum a dlevel with a large open room to kill every dungeon boss, and even then it's hard unless you're overleveled as fuck. Compare to most melee where you just buff and go, or buff and do the teleport game for a bit.

I just gave up on a lich round level 30 because it was a pain in the ass killing anything that put up any kind of fight.

>>128648903
It's good to play while you're waiting for your match in fightan or moba. Can pick minotaur and tab for fun, it's addictive

>>128649170
>Is it just me or are blasty mages in PCB even more of a chore than the normal game?
yep

>>128649273
I used to play VSBe with shortblades when I was bored and didn't have anything else to do. Fast regen and quickblades is fun for a while, but otabbing isn't really that fun.

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should have gone with food.

>>128649434
>reposting old pictures pretending they're new
for what purpose
just because the old archives are down doesn't mean that people cannot remember images

>>128649434
I don't bother with anything other than wands or fruit, it's not called scroll of disappointment for nothing. I can always put that extra fire bolt to use, unlike large shields or -3 AC +2 EV rings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ExRtmbzB8

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>>128649548
>implying it's old
>not knowing about the new archives
jej.

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>>128649765
>japanese majong- flash

well, at least I'm not a fucking weeb.

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>>128649862
>being this mad about Oiratian cliffjumping pastimes on an Oiratian cliffjumping forum
>>>/reddit/ is that way.

>>128648760
is ToME4 the very best rougelike or does the genera have more to offer

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>>128650000
>Oiratian cliffjumping

S-stop making up words, weeb

>>128649548
>Not knowing about lava orc anon, forever mad that his favorite race was removed and stuck in .14 forever.

>>128650104
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oirats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_jumping

Anon pls.

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>>128650183
funny.
Very funny.

>>128649862
>being this mad at Uygur tapestry in an Uyghur tapestry forum

I always preferred mongolian woodcarving myself

How do you restore drained Dex in Sil? A Tattered Wight just took off 2 points and I'm hoping to fix it before it gets me killed

>>128651127
potions of dex

>>128651127
quaff !dex.

Alright, rolling for Friday evening.

0-1: PCB
2-3: Drunk PCB
4-5: Infra Arcana
6-7: Dynahack
8-9: Something from the OP I haven't tried yet
Quads: Gensokyo

>>128651330
>it's friday again
where does the time go
I guess it's PCB for you

>>128651536
Seems like it.
Though I'm cheating and getting drunk anyway.
I'll go with a Demigod of Ares Swordmaster for maximum tab.

>>128651181
>>128651183
Well, just drank like 8 kinds of potions hoping for one and I didn't have one.

Died to getting cornered in a small room with some Wargs and Orc Champions

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>>128651707

Rolling what to do in Sil
1-3 Splat another fighter edain
4-6 Splat another sneaky edain
7-9 Splat a dwarf instead
0 Drunk edain splatting

>>128652941
rollan

So are devicemasters for things other than wands incredibly shit? Do they just have no offensive capabilities at all until they find a rod of firebolt or a staff of holy word or whatever? What do potionmasters even DO, other than chug a limitless supply of *healing*?

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So, I actually did it.

I am hoping for lots of fun ahead of me.

>>128653237
>What do potionmasters even DO, other than chug a limitless supply of *healing*?
throw potions of death and detonation to enemies.

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>Time: (71.0)
I present to you the Amazing Autoexplore Algorithm of DCSS

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>-128 damage
oh man that was a bad idea

I guess I should wait a while before using it

that runecheese dude said he put it on as soon as he found it and he did the same thing I did, edit the thieves quest reward to drop a runesword.

either he lied or he also put a regular weapon in his other hand.

>>128653626
Just enchant hit to 0

>>128653969
can't enchant a rune sword

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>>128652941
Easy
Cornered by that green orc gang trying to get to the stairs

permanent stat drains

why do they exist?

>>128649765
wait are you using the site extension

>>128654949
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>128637798
I really really enjoy Qud.
The only reason I'm not playing it right now is that my last two esper runs were both ended by the same thing - my dominated ally attacking a sleeping slumberling which proceeded to charge me and rape me in two turns

Does any game have good ally AI?

>>128651127
You should get a few points in will if you insist on brawling with wights - just four or five will make you just about immune and it help with not getting stunned, too.

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Strange how deep I made despite dumping lot of points in perception. I guess Focused Attack and Master Hunter make up a lot.

>>128637798
I like the game, but I got to the end of current content once (banana tower quest or whatever) and now can't really work myself up to play it again if there's no new stuff.

>>128656287
Pleb. Ally killdudes is the worst killdudes there is.
It's why brogue sucks, as do summoners in any roguelike ever.

>>128651330
Ok.

>>128656604
Yeah, I know. Dominate is so fucking powerful everywhere all the way up to the midgame, though - that is literally the only scenario where it fucks you. It'd be really hard to rush the waterlogged tunnel without it. I'll probably do without it whenever I take on another run, though.

>>128656604
>as do summoners in any roguelike ever.

Didn't Demon have pretty good pet shit?
I never played it but it looked like quite a few people did.

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> not played DCSS in years
> decide play web version once or twice
just as full of removed content as i remembered it, fuck this
> on a laugh, decide to see "where it all went wrong" and the old feature removals started to happen
> .6 and the removal of divinations was the true begining of REMOVE FEATURES

> so i track down and play .5.0.2 instead of current
> enjoy DCSS again for quite some time
hmm, levels seem kind of bland
> decide to add some (mini)vaults

> 12 hours later have done nothing but add vaults

>>128656692
You can't get me down with your condescension man.
I just found Grayswandir.

>>128657270
I don't know, every post I read seemed to include a line about the fucking summons never doing what you wanted them to do

>>128645945

Usually they drop in places like the Orc caves or something like that. Also, Zul's wand shop tends to sell heal/haste/clone monster wands sometimes/

>>128657387
How the fuck am I going to play pcb drunk when I've never gone beyond level 21

>>128657379
>old dcss with vaults

What if...
>DCSS tiles with PCB variety and ToME4 modability

>>128657396
Well shit.
Yeah I can't think of a roguelike where summoners feel as smooth and well done as a D:2 necro.

>>128657541
>tiles
who cares
What are you, a CASUL?

>>128651330
1-4 DDDA
5 TOME4
6 code
7 Kill myself
8-9 do nothing
Dubs Immolate myself
0 Draw

>>128657505
The best part about being drunk is that you won't care as long as you have more beer, I just downed my first of the evening and it tastes great with PCB.
Also I thought you were making fun of me for rolling but it seems you were just going along with the flow, I'm sorry anon.

>>128657379
>> decide to add some (mini)vaults
>> 12 hours later have done nothing but add vaults

submit your vaults for merging

they'll be rejected because content is haram, but it's worth a try

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>>128657660
Please draw Corwin laying a terrible death curse on an unsuspecting PCB player like I requested yesterday.

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>>128657541
I've literally made a floating vault that is 40 tiles long, 3 tiles wide... of just a line of water. it has 10 subst: lines to randomize each quarter of the "river"
another vault is 38 tiles long, it's just a fucking stone-wall lined floor hallway with w:3 of level-appropriate traps.

help.

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>>128657886
Who's corwin? If you don't tell me, I'm going to assume this counts.

It's a greenlizard confuse weak guy as the pc :3c

>>128657698
It's okay anon I love you too

I might decided to play that qud since I've talked a bunch about it
See about some screenshots maybe

>>128657973
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corwin_of_Amber

Well, it was fun for a while.

>>128658047
what does he look like?

i'm imagining a powdered fop who looks sort of like the rosy cheeked android from dbz, like the marquis de sade but slightly obese and with a cheeky smile

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Wise wisdom from a wise cookie.
Adhere to it, mongs.

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>>128658664
Well if you haven't played PCB it probably wouldn't be as fun to draw shit related to it.
Maybe something DDA related?
We get so little decent quality OC drawings it's embarrassing for an image board thread.
DDA has so many fun things you could draw even though the game gets boring once you learn the ropes.

>>128654949
Playing roguelike games permanently drains your stats IRL, so it's a very realistic and pertinent feature.

>>128659017
someone's projecting

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Yeeeeeeessss!!!
Such a nice statstick for a caster at level 31.
Now to search for Gandalf's and Saruman's sticks and eventually Athena's spear.

>>128660063
When I research a thing it doesn't give full stats it just says "affects your speed" etc

halp

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>not playing dynahack and slashthem at the same fucking time, doing a few floors in each
Why is slashthem so ugly
Why does it have zero convenience of Dyna
Help

>>128660458
>Why is slashthem so ugly
it has the same UI as regular nethack.

It's awful.

Play dyna.

>>128660419
Check your settings probably, also help file.
Never heard of that happening before though.

>>128642150
except you don't need to train archery skill?

>>128660528
Yeah I know anon, but it's kinda fun to play two separate variants side by side with same race/class and compare results.
Besides Dyna taught me enough about nethack to at least not fumble horribly in slashthem.

>>128660419
rings don't have stats.

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>>128662309
I think he's just fucked up something in these options.

anons I'm really loving these character drawings. I looked at all of them and they're really fun.

>>128657973
corwin description from the books
>green eyes, black hair, dressed in black and silver, yes. i had on a cloak and it was slightly >furled as by a wind. i had on b]ack boots, like eric's, and i too wore a blade, only mine was >heavier, though not quite as long as his. i had my gloves on and they were silver and scaled. >the clasp at my neck was cast in the form of a silver rose.
The sword is the faerie-silver sabre Greyswandir.

>>128660063
may beruthiel be found by you as well

>>128660419
The (+X) or sometimes (-X) is the number for any "it affects" (your strength, your speed, etc). This number for an item is known as the pval.

How long can Troll claws last as a main weapon?

dcss

>>128661259
>DYWYPI?
I guess I shouldn't have eaten that werejackal corpse.
Live and learn.

>>128663052
forever

>>128663052
actually the entire game if you keep training uc

>>128663257
>>128663315
I sure am. Can I wield a shield in one hand, will it reduce my combat prowess?