Alone in W-Space Edition
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>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.
>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
Read the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY
>Spring: Citadel expansion & cap rebalance release
>Spring: Amarr Championship finals: Tash-Murkon (Kelon Darklight) vs Kor-Azor (Lysus)
>Dec 10: Shekel Madness 2: Electric Boogaloo is a bit lackluster; eagerly anticipating loot table changes
>Dec 08: Grids are now 8000km wtf, pos / station / gates sharing grids
>Dec 08: FROSTLINE IS HERE http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/operation-frostline/
>Nov 26: Fozzie confirms OGB removal in ~1 month (after Frostline)
>Nov 25: shitposting about goons reaching critical levels community-wide
>Nov 23: Leak of possible Frostline rewards on Sisi imgur.com/gallery/zQ7ED/new
>Nov 20: overview of FROSTLINE EXPANSION (new event, ships, balancing, visuals): http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/operation-frostline-and-holidays-in-eve-online-an-update-from-ccp-seagull/
>Nov 19: Dropbears are all out of All-Out's hole
>Nov 18: MITTENS & CO GET RUSED THE FUCK OUT BY PH, AUTZ BEST TZ
>Nov 17: Command Dessie feedback thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6171886#post6171886
>Nov 05: Manny kicked from CSM (leaks?)
>Oct 25: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reworking-capital-ships-and-thus-it-begins/
>Oct 15: SP trading concept presented
>Aug 13: Citadel FAQ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEbMx9xUXje3KH4AppvcjSSoALUVtVEaK6ZZ-zy2Lrs/edit#
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
>getting invited by a 1.1% ship eff corp
i mean there are plenty of good games that are just colored dots
>Long expeditions in hostile space with no support
>Might run out of expensive ammo
>Decide to bring backups
>Last literally forever
>Take up no space
>More expensive the more you stock
>Run out just as fast as your expensive shit
>Take up literally all of your cargo
Here's a fun story.
I had a friend-of-a-friend who got into the game. Despite myself and my other friends' best efforts to come PvP and shoot shit, he became a cretinous, subhuman miner/mission runner. Rather than training for a decent mission running ship like a Raven, or an incursion ship like a Vindicator, Machariel, or Nightmare, he chose to train for a Paladin.
For running level 4 missions.
Why? Because it doesn't use ammo. He trained all the way to T2 lasers so he could get to Scorch pulses. Which he then realized are a consumable ammo type because they're T2.
He quit EVE after that. You'd think someone so severely autistic that they need to use a ship that doesn't use ammo would be perfect for EVE, but I guess not.
Kinda sad, I could actually use his character and Paladin for jewing C4 wormhole sites or something useful, but I doubt he'd give it to me, and I hate its name.
Literally just bring a bunch of faction and T2 crystals. They take up fuck-all cargo space.
I have been PvPing for a few weeks and running Frostline sites in my goddamn Confessor every day and I'm STILL only a little over halfway through my first set of IN Multifreq and Aurora. Not to mention the set of Gleam that I have barely touched.
>People literally argue against being able to change character names
I hate this so much. There's literally no reason a PLEX for a name change shouldn't be a feature, just list it under previous employment.
>omg i have to show my name, I can't be a being of darkness hidden in shadows :(((
>mooom, pls sue CCP so I can be eleeet on the internet
>implying you don't already have to do that
>implying it's not already 10x worse than that because of alts
Should we all be restricted to a single account too, as if that were possible?
>ebin wh cloaky stealth ninja xd so le spooky lmao
I can fly a freighter.
I own a freighter.
I wanna be a spess trucker.
How do I make money as a spess trucker? I tried Red Frog but even they pay shit wages. I can station trade but I don't see how using my freighter would make that any better, especially since in most cases I could just pay RF or PushX's slave wages and have somebody else move my shit.
>To show that you're a better pilot for living in space where you can dock in 100% safe stations and spin your ship
Yes. Let me help with your reading comprehension.
>I want to haul but others will haul for ridiculously low wages and it would be retarded to work for that little money or to not just pay that little for them to haul instead of doing it myself and taking on all the time/risk.
why do you think there is money to be made hauling with a freighter in hisec if you already can see there are a lot of people doing it cheaper than you are prepared to do?
>look, confessors are selling for 65m in Jita
>hurrdurr but i want to sell them for 100m in jita, how do i do this
you don't, you sell something else or you go somewhere else
that is to say, not a freighter and not hisec
This actually sounds fun as hell. I always figured everyone just declared that "bitch work for alts", I didn't realize there was anyone who would actually compensate you for it.
I have dsts but no JF yet, but if this were a real career option I'd definitely be willing to skill up to one.
But how often do you do these runs, weekly? monthly?
And how do you get that position? I figure most alliances have quite a few DST and JF pilots and not all that many are needed to fully supply them.
>confessors are selling for 65m in Jita, I want to sell them for 100m
Study the market, watch long-term fluctuations, buy low, sell at a peak, you've just sold confessors way higher than their current price, maybe 100m.
You're example a shit.
This was fucking infuriating when I was living in null. You were forbidden to hunt reds if you weren't at least 20 people and you had to dock up as soon as a single one showed up on local.
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>500MN XTYPE MWD
>Jita 4-4 local
>"Charon for sale cheap!"
>"Proteus with rigs!"
>3 common rigs
>5 Proteus subsystems
I genuinely miss this shit, it always made me chuckle.
How big is it?
Because if it's not big, you can just fly it out I guess. Or try to do it right after DT, move it one system over into a station, wait a day, then go about your business
Some combination of these things:
>just after or just before downtime
>to avoid watchlist, transferring it in space to a character not involved in the ship or its sale or you at all (if necessary, a trial alt multiboxed with virtual machine) (if someone has your full api, do this in space in a safe spot)
>an excellent undock bookmark you've already created
>logging in a safe
>a good ability to perform cloak+mwd trick under pressure
If there is an equivalent of The Zone in Eve, what/where is it?
>Hisec = Cordon
>at first scary and dangerous after a short while it becomes super safe and just a nuisance to have to travel through
>Lowsec = Garbage
>cheeki breeki madness, gatecamping faggots, once you get used to it it's no big deal and you have a safe route and some small time fights
>Nullsec = Military Warehouses
>muh guild iz da bess pls join, after you pick a side it's a few fights until you either end up back in lowsec or zzzz because you killed your enemies
>wspace = labs
>so spoopy, shit can spawn behind you so watch out dude, mostly PvE, with the right tools/experience it's actually much easier than the rest of the game
>jove space = Radar
>full of mind controlled zombies with ghosts in their brains
a quick google gives figures of 100m/hr, 200m/hr, and 450m/hr. i'd guess that being reasonably competent could net you a bit above 200m/hr.
It gets pretty lonely and you'll spend a lot of time running from or avoiding swarms of ships. Then again you kind of do that or the inverse in fleets, too.
Really my only complaint about solo Eve is that I can't find any really good public chat channels to just hang out in, so I just wind up shitposting here instead.
>kill retard rapier
>drops web worth 80mil
>kill elite solo machariel
>drops 200mil on republic gyros
>kill random blockade runner
>drops porn magazines and 1bil in blueprints
its not rocket science anon, all you need to do it get out and kill people
is this the most cancerous corp to date
I want to berate you and claim that your strategy for making money relies entirely on people being stupid and you having crazy good luck, but then again I'm a trader so it's pretty much pot vs kettle if you think about it.
this makes no sense. all these people are doing shit that they know is boring as fuck, just so they can pvp. why are you trying to make it sound like not having to do that means you're bad somehow?
Problem is you described your way of making a living in an incredibly vague way that makes it seem really unsustainable, luck-reliant, and possibly outright supplied by buying PLEX or whatever, so people are jumping all over you for acting self-rightous.
>in an incredibly vague way
it's not vague. literally just pvp and instead of bragging about killing more than you lose like a faggot, take it a bit further and loot more than you lose. you can do this just by being good at pvp, being a camper shitter, or I guess SRP as sort of the blob version of this.
that aint me who said that.
im just pointing out anyone who tries to claim they're better than someone else because of a certain way they play is like playing in the special olympics for 1st
he said he was a trader
and that was the reason he wasn't going to call out the pvper for relying on stupidity for income
and compared both of their methods to winning the special olympics
>travel 20 jumps to buy ship
>travel 20 jumps back
>travel 15 jumps looking for pvp
>hours have passed
>stuck in middle of nowhere with more travel just to get back to where I started
yep EVE hasn't changed a bit
>280 mil under market from some random guy in jita
>triple check contract
>zero fucking regret
>at the price even if I decide to get rid of it I only lose 100 mil or make 300
i makes hundreds of mil every day selling them; i assume people buy them.
there is, for instance, a guide right here >>128046813 that says that mid or high-grade ascendency implants are essential for efficient hisec missioning
>run a few DED sites
>make more money in a few hours than a highsec retardo carbear makes in a month of daily grinding with his pimped faction battleship
Why do they even waste their time? Don't they know they're just an embarrassment?
if you are flipping in station, which is what it sounds like, i recommend train margin trading to IV at your soonest convenience. i avoided it for a long time thinking "what difference does it make", but it does in fact make a lot of difference. It allows you to put up three times more value in buy orders than you have capital for (and trade income scales with value invested).
personally, i prefer to update one or sometimes two times a day. to that end, i moved to a slower hub and started trading in faction/deadspace mods, implants, boosters, etc. the volumes are lower but the margins are higher, and with the limited amount of orders that i had at the time that worked out a lot better for me than having orders in lower margin stuff.
if you prefer a more active style, you can make plenty of money in a higher activity hub on high volume stuff by being present and updating your orders more or less continuously. you will make money as long as you are active and you will stop making money when you log off.
i stopped station trading and started buying in one station, courier contracting to another, and selling there. haven't looked back. this doesn't use margin trading.
I just started my dedicated trade alt and going to start getting accounting 1 to 4 tonight then broker relations to 4, after that going to get my number of possible orders and margin trading to 3, I like to just sit in jita and update stuff between whatever episode of weebshit I'm watching. is it worth it to do missions for the standing or is it negligible?
Yeah obtain for $15 a month a piece of shit and then spend hours trying to turn it into excellence.
>hurr it's only as fun as you make it therefore you're shit if you think the game is bad
standings are non-negligible, but i wouldn't bother unless you have a second account that you can fleet your trader with to gain standings with, or you have a friend you can fleet to get standings, or you have enough cash flow to not minde paying some random guy to fleet to get standings.
i haven't bothered with standing yet, but i have both tax skills to IV and my taxes are still like .8% or something instead of .3% like someone with standings could have.
thanks senpai, guess I will just go with the skills for now then do standings once I have the spare money for some guy to boost them up for me or enough time to train a basic rattlesnake/gecko fit since thats makes missions easy as shit from what I remember
>we finally get a janitor
>six months after dror shat up the place
can they get banned for power abusing?
Also I bet they fly Amarr.
>can they get banned
Of course, but not really.
>deletes >amarr posts
Clearly flies confessors, I bet he wants the svipul nerfed too.
so the best way to grind standings is lvl 4 distribution missions while afk? would I get better results from another type?
No there are far more autistic ways, like grinding cosmos and shit, the security missions too if you can blitz the shit out of them. But distros are afkable completely and piss easy so those are probably the best.
ok thanks, I'll just go for the distribution then
some of the models are alot worse then others on min settings, stations are atrocious
>when PLEX are over 1bil
What does this mean, exactly? Is there a profit-making scheme more tied to the price of PLEX for some reason, or are you just telling people to spend their IRL cash on Eve?
>not structure tanking a mach
It's almost as if there were forces present in the market based on the supply of items present and the demand people are making of them.
But no I'm sure it's some retarded illermenerty conspiracy.
I'm still working on it, so I'll probably post another version in an /eog/ thread later.
I want to add a couple more category comparisons (battleships, capital ships) and maybe some actual normal distribution graphs.
because they can't be tackled (easily at least, scram cycle is shorter than mjd spool, if you notice him spooling and stop in time you can keep point but you actually have to pay attention and that's like way too much work for 99% of F1 monkeys)
>system just big enough to have one little thing outside of d-scan
>drifter plot barely advancing
C'mon CCP, let's have some shit happen, Gives us different types of drifter ships, have them DO SOMETHING not just to NPCs.
It annoys me that CCP pussyfoots around with the players, NPCs are never allowed to be an actual disruption, "le players write the story", Fine, have the players writer their story, but rattle the cage from time to time, remind them their playing a fucking MMORPG not an autistic wargame simulator.
Oh, and if you WANT the players to write the fucking story, THEN ACTUALLY DO IT. Let the players have a bigger impact on how shit in universe ACTUALLY FUCKING HAPPENS. Right now EVE has this huge narrative dissoance where there are these massive player run empires out in fucking space, many times larger than the shitty NPC empires and the NPCs act like they BARELY EXIST. Like some group controlling thousands of system is totally fucking irrelevant.
>autistic wargame simulator
>drifters start actually stirring shit
>carebears from both hisec and null start flipping their shit
>omg i can't afk carrier now :(((
>drifters nerfed back after enough CSM cocksucking
>"le players write the story"
with most eve lore this is hardly ever true
you should calm your autism and read the books and chronicles
they're pretty good
the Prophecy of Macaper is also complete too
>I wish the playerbase wasn't so cancerous and boring at times.
but anon it is le fun
Seems like it.I wouldn't even bother with someone like that.Unless it was really him posting?But i don't think he would be that stupid.
I mean, you CAN make dosh just mining, it's probably the lowest skill barrier and "Safest" early dosh. But it's GODAWFUL. Exploration, even highsec exploration will make more money. Mining is only good if you intend to 100% afk.
I found out that you only put up the tower so you can do jew shit. Im glad where neutral now ao you better watch your back cunt.
So I've done all the tutorials except the "you're ship exploded!" "your capsule is fucked!" what do I do now? I tried grabbing a level 1 mission but it's way too savage for my little ship and shitty railgun. I need isk dammit.
just the starting one, the Ibis. I'm not sure what to do now. Kinda aimless. I remember last time I tried EVE (years ago) there were beginner questlines and stuff, but I can't find anything like that now.
No fuck off. You're absloute fucking scum. A fucking piece of shit who thinks its funny to bring up someones mental illness to mock them. Get fucked cunt i hope you have a slow fucking death you absloute piece cunt. Fuck you.
It wasnt nice knowing you. How the fuck can you sleep at night knowing your such a toxic, vile, inhumane person. I can barely breathe right now im on the verge of a panic attack because of you. Fuck you honestly just fuck you cunt.
Why do i even bother playing EVE anymore? CCP should make pvp impossible in high sec.This idiot is ranking up on miners while over here we are fighting battleships and carriers?
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT!!!
I haven't been in high sec for a very long time was it always like that?
Your hatred blinds you
That comment was actually from muss famjam
>Exploration, even highsec exploration will make more money.
This isn't true at all. Hisec exploration is fucking awful, even more so because fucking everyone and their mother is doing it.
You can easily pull 1mil/hour with a couple days worth of skills down as a miner, you can't make that kind of money with any kind of reliability as a hisec explorer. Sure, if you're retarded and you're only looking at that one time you made 5-10 mil an hour, it looks good, but that doesn't happen nearly often enough.
Because e-peening is literally the worst practice possible, and this game fucking promotes it. Players are flying around killing ships just to get kill reports. It's like they have no other reason to play EVE, it's fucking retarded.
When you're a complete rookie, a mil/hour is about what you can expect to make. At least the first couple days. And yet hisec exploration makes less than that, so why'd you suggest it?
I'm complaining about people flying around and killing ships that are literally worth less than the ammunition they're expending. They could be doing a million possible things that are more fun, more profitable and more meaningful, but no, because HURR MAH KILL REPORTS.
It's PVPing for all the wrong reasons.
See, if I knew it would get reactions like this, I would kill rookie ships with my mach all day every day.
Spoilers: Not everyone plays the game the way you do. Not everyone enjoys the things you do, and some people even like doing the stuff you hate!
Not even an apology. Truely a heartless cunt.
I dont care who it was from. I was responding to grm. Either way i left your shit tier corp and guess what, I was the one who shot J in that euro fleet. It was by accident because i was responding to grm on ts but it was worth it non the less.
No, but a lot of people don't like it, that's the point.
No one sane would defend people hunting around lowsec for rookie frigates to kill just so they could stroke their epeen some more. And the only reason that practice is remotely as rampant as it is is because of kill reports and shit like that.
I'm not harping on PVP in general. If you're out hunting for actually valuable ships, you're in a faction war or whatever, fine, that's how its supposed to be. But to go out and gank absolutely anything you come across that you can just to up your kill count that, doesn't matter for anything anywhere, is the dumbest practice and CCP shouldn't promote it at all.
Oh, and I don't know, maybe EVE would have a bit more players sticking around if rookies weren't ganked all the god damn time.
>a lot of people don't like it
a lot of people DO like it, too
haven't said why besides that it's "dumb"
>new player retention
again, ganked players are on average more likely to continue playing
A lot of people don't like suicide ganking or wardecs either, should those be removed as well?
I pretty regularly go roaming around lowsec in my svipul. Should I avoid fighting frigates because they don't meet some arbitrary value threshold? Is killing stabbed farmers in kestrels or whatever somehow a bad thing now?
How do you define a valuable ship, and why do you get to decide weather or not the things I am shooting at actually 'count'?
Frankly, if a player quits after losing a 1 mil ISK merlin, they're not going to stick around after losing a 10 mil ISK Moa, or a 300 mil Rokh, are they.
>if I waste all my slots on nanos then people can't hit me
I've not played since around 2008.
What should I know prior to re-activating my accounts?
>You were forbidden to hunt reds if you weren't at least 20 people and you had to dock up as soon as a single one showed up on local.
Maybe you need to stop playing with spineless fucks?
I might have to, looking a the maps, my old alliance no-longer exists and their space is occupied by some people called "Soviet Union".
Will my stuff still be in the stations down there?
>Maybe you need to stop playing with spineless fucks?
I did. wspace is my jam now.
farming escalations/DEDs with an assault frigate works really well though.
Getting a B-type invuln and a worm bp from a gurista DED 1/2 is wonderful, and farming frig/destroyer escalations in angel space is a really good way to find medium and low grade snake implants.
Johnny how the fuck do you get this triggered yb some idle banter, jesus christ. You as a single person are more upset than all of All-Out combined was during the 2014 happening.
>wiiiuu wiiuu wiiiuu FUN Police coming through
>he still can't figure out how to use the quote feature on 4chan
>he expects people to take him seriously
>killing actual content so you can get dank killmails
>giving free (You)s
you are the one who got tricked, cause I am, and always be, the trickermaster.
Read the lore
finally a sensible suggestion
>johnny meme is cookie cucker
>he is also the faggot who is so retarded that he cant fucking understand, after having it explained 5 times, to not shoot the fucking trigger in the wormhole site
>loses us a fessor
>gets triggered by grm
truly living up to his name
lmfao whatever about random nerds dying to gatecamps because fuck it you can be drunk and do dumb shit but how did they take a fight against a dozen t3s in that fleet. That's BNI tier shit.
they've been following people home at least twice that i've heard of, and that was only WT; who knows about neut scouts
not to mention we did have a disgruntled member leave recently >>128116229 who posted our exit publically in at least one place.
White stag vs PE negotiators
PhillOs and Liara are the negotiators, liara is the one threatening white stag and phillos spammed spaces in an attempt to clear the chat so liara can talk
>POINTED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION
>JUST LIKE THE BARGHEST
>all-out gets wardecced and lose a fuckton of ships
>wardecced company offers them an end to the war for 2bil
>all-out tells them to give them 2bil and then memes them out of the chat
all fucking out.
My name is Tib, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are retarded, Mongoloid Capsuleers who spend every second of their day losing blingbling faction spaceships. You are everything bad in the entirety of New Eden. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten a kill in highsec? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your successful War On Green, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than losing a PLEX in Tama.
Don’t be a neutral. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the South-West Providence Defense Fleet, and starter in the Care Factor leadership. What sports do you play, other than “Lose blingbling battleships in Low-sec”? I also get hundreds of GBP, and have a banging hot waifu mousepad with silicone boobs (I just blew my load on her; Shit was SO cash). You are all pointless, shitforbrain faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for the free rigs.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
I shot it half on purpose just to see the euros rage. No regrets.
I gave it away ironically because i planned on quitting the game. But then i got bored and decided to plan again. Now its fun and exciting because i have stuff to train towards.
Trying to decide whether I should join FW given that I don't want to nuke my standings. Trying to read this chart: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Factional_Warfare_Standings#Actions_that_affect_standings
What the fuck does '/' mean? I don't see anything clarifying. If it means no change, why are there empty cells?
just do what I do and never do anything mean ever
diplomat skills m80
My diplomacy skills are already raised. My standings are just already super shit.
It pisses me off because I think I might actually enjoy FW, but I also enjoy several other things that involve open access to HS and I think it would just take a few plexes to put me in "whoops time to grind out months of missions to fix your standings" range. And then everybody points to the storylines as if those fix anything, I did those years ago and unless I'm missing something they aren't repeatable.
It just feels like a lot of bullshit which adds absolutely nothing to the game but cockblocks me in a huge way either now or later, my choice.
the lower they are the easier they are to raise, you can always hire someone to do it for you, not sure if that would bring any negative standings along with it or if its all positive since your not the one killing rats
It was literally an hour apart what what ever you say fuckboy.
You know what, I'm feeling like I should really just say "fuck it" and go blinky red.
Any recommendations on where I should look to give empire the middle finger and have some fun?
The main problems I tend to run into with corps and careers is a lack of ISK income, not being able to fuck around on my own and feeling restricted to fleet ops all day erry day, and not having anything to do when I only have a little while to log on, sometimes I like to hop on Eve for an hour or less and I've been in more than a few spots where it felt like that wasn't enough to do anything but update market orders or spin ships.
>i don't like wormholes
>sets up his own pos in a wormhole
>joins a wormhole corp
i suppose it's reasonable that you don't like wormholes *now*
what will you try out next, johnny?
dreddit is recruiting
yes, keep selling me your implants goyim
seriously though, about to make some pretty nice profits for what I got these for
Old character, broad skills, I can fly most subcaps decently just don't necessarily have experience with them.
I tried w-space when it was still new, the isolation got to me, part of it was the corp activity had a lull and I felt like I was stepping on their procedures when I tried to do stuff alone, my scanning skills sucked back then too.
I did nullsec a couple times, both sucked for me. One was the classic nullbear renter corp which was incredibly risk-averse and safe even compared to highsec, about yawned myself to death. The other was a little line-member in a huge alliance, lots of "go here, do this, don't ask questions, fit this ship, press F1", the big big fights have never interested me, I've always wanted to do solo and small gang stuff.
I've been in RvB a few times, both as my main and alts, love the frigate dueling, the fleets started to get boring though and it felt like a really focused lifestyle. Log in, fly a frigate, market trade, log out, repeat.
I dabbled with FW just a touch, I was running two accounts at the time and funding them through station trading. I joined a corp on an alt while my main joined a small lowsec corp in the area who mostly just blew shit up. Sadly just as I was getting into the swing of it RL happened, I stopped playing, and it seems that corp went on to become a little mostly-inactive wormhole corp. I'm also not in a financial position where I want to be throwing money at two accounts right now, nor am I confident enough to try to trade for PLEX, the price is almost double what it was when I was doing this before.
I hate huge fleets, and sitting on stations/gates doing nothing. I actually kind of enjoy missions/ratting a bit, and hauling's not bad, I like them because they're relaxing, you know? Kind of the opposite of an adrenaline-pumping duel where you overheat the fuck out of everything. I like logi, I've done some incursions and preferred logi, and that old w-space corp did spider tanking BSes.
have you considered
we do a pretty good amount of pvp scaling from frigs to bs and there is a lot of money to be made in wormholes (spider tanking domis and rattles, check). We have lulls but we've remained basically active since last summer. i fund my shit with station trading if you want someone to chat to about that
grm is also a great guy to talk to about indy shit, and we have poses to do industry in if you want to try that out. i think all of our pvp is uh, adrenaline-pumping.
you sound like you'd be a good addition desu
Various forms of pvp, w-space shit, money, indy stuff, plenty of whelping...
Actually sounds like a pretty good time, I might actually give it a shot. Worst outcome is a bad mark on my already super-dodgy employment history, right?
Believe me lad, if you want fun no matter the cost join All-Out. You'll have hilarious losses, you'll get to shittalk the fuck out of cocky wardeccers and you'll have the time of your life. Join DoomedFromTheStart.
>literally begging for a janitor when you get BTFO over spaceships
tfw sold my eve accounts for over a thousand euro, and once I had the money I petitioned CCP for them back claiming they'd been stolen, and got them both back with all assets reimbursed
Battleships and capitals comparison.
Best isk and kill efficiency goes to....
Covert Ops Battleships!