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/scg/ Star Citizen General - Same Memes Over and Over Again Edition

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>FAQ (Badly needing an update)
http://pastebin.com/fcf25Vi9

>Current Build (Alpha v2.0.0)
Download: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download
Manual: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/1c1bbpmb3uat3r/source/AC-Manual-1-1a-V11.pdf
Tweaks & Stuff: http://pastebin.com/QRWNvEVD
Alpha 2.0.0-305217 Stability Settings: http://pastebin.com/MBcknHRt

>Latest Monthly Report (November 2015)
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15105-Monthly-Studio-Report

>Latest Official Podcasts
Around the Girth 2.13: https://youtu.be/ZnQtZ_D1D7Q
10 for the Chairman 74: https://www.youtu.be/qqcN6UkKfog
10 for the Developers 1: https://www.youtu.be/luDDJoPdMY8
Bugsmashers 17: https://youtu.be/RiUC2_uYohw

>Current Issue of Jump Point
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/xtjaptgtro9w0r/source/JumpPoint_03-12_Dec-15_Refining-The-Verse.pdf

>Entire Jump Point Repository
http://pastebin.com/Cd9wQ9YB

>Last Asset Leak
http://pastebin.com/aGpzF7wV

>Lastest Random Shit
2.1 to PTU: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15136-Star-Citizen-Alpha-21-Available
Pupil to Planet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLTm8DZ8s4
Letter from the Chairman: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15138-Letter-From-The-Chairman
Star Map: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/starmap
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfwyAlGHpTQ

:^)
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I'm already in the PTU, but the 2.1 client says I need to change to the PTU.

Sup with that?
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>>127962617
>scott_bakula_im_retarded?.gif
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>>127960873
And now we don't need to wait for Formula Fusion.
^.^
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Who /starfarer/ here?
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Post 'em
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>>127970392
I backed during the kickstarter with an aurora, and then upgraded. Haven't spent a penny since
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>>127970392
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>>127970392
How do you even make this picture?
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>>127971572
https://raylehnhoff.github.io/SCFSD/
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>>127967017
that's literally a direct quote from the wiki article
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>>127971667
>300 series
I hope none of you have a Redeemer, fuck that
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>don't actually know what I want to do in SC
>ships keep getting more specific
what do
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>>127971667
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>>127971869
>C
>>ships keep getting more specific
Freelancer solves all.
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>>127970392
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>>127971869
>what do

You stay safe with an Aurora and wait till the game is out.

Duh.
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>>127971869
go with the multi-purpose ship in the price range you're most comfortable with.

Aurora LN $35 - slow as fuck

Avenger Titian $50 - faster and more agile than the Aurora. Holds slightly less.

Cutlass Black $100 - actually totally sucks in a fight. Is actually pretty fast for a ship with that large a hold.

Freelancer $110 - God awful view. More durable, but also less agile than a cutlass.

Constellation Andromeda $225 - Amazing do everything ship. But owning one turns you into a utter douche that thinks his mary sue ship that has huge shields, a shit ton of large guns, a fuck load of missiles, giant cargo bay, and it's own baby ship should be as fast and agile as a fighter because Chris Roberts once called it the "Millennium Falcon of Star Citizen".
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>>127971869
Put your faith in Drake. The Cutlass will be born anew.
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>>127972889
This is bad advice, pls no follow
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>>127972889
Maybe two years from now after every other ship has been made flight ready.
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>>127973098
nice thumbnail
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>>127960617

This is objectively the best fleet selection. The only other 2 large ships worth owning are an Orion or a Reclaimer.
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>>127972887
They also called the Constellation a Space Superiority Fighter in the initial campaign, those were fun times
Can't see the Avenger being multi-purpose though, even if it's a starter ship the Reliant may be more fitting
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>>127973465
Reliant kore will be slower and less armed. The Avenger can fight, can intercept, and can hold some cargo.
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>>127971803
I wonder if the Redeemer will be good for anything
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>>127974214
I doubt you'll be able to turn it into something like an explorer or a miner though
>>127974241
Good at looking bad
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Any tips against Hornets when playing gladius?
My loadout is currently gimballed
tarantula + 2 gimballed 9 longswords.
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>>127973448
What about the crucible and the Starfarer?
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>>127974374

That's also a great combo if you're going salvage. Also, very useful for support operations. You're clear, anon.
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>>127974241
>Redeemer will be good for anything
It will be good for getting people to laugh and call you a stupid faggot when you fly around space in it
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>>127974349
1. Remove gimbles and get bigger guns
2. ???
3. PROFIT
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>>127974241

Redeemer will be shit cause it's a gunship/dropship with no ability to be stored on any ship sans a Bengal Carrier, which no one but the biggest organizations will control.
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>>127973448
>endeavor
>being anything useful other than a cash cow for CIG
pick one
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>>127970392
Support ship master race
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>>127974349
Don't joust, ever. Strafe and dart in and out. The gladius' yaw and horizontal strafe sucks now so pitch/vertical only. Use missile at close range once you've weakened the hornet' shield, they can't chase targets for shit anymore.
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>>127974349
Gladius is a meme ship atm (that means it's bad)
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>>127974349

1. remove gimble
2. hold e
3. win
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>>127975272

Ben will never leave CIG, and the Endeavor is his science-ship baby. You're fucking retarded if you want science gameplay and don't go into Endeavor. Buy the base and earn the modules, you goyim.
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>>127975715
S3 guns on the wings and the dual S1 turret the early version of the ship had would help a lot.
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>>127975882
>playing a space sim
>to do imaginary space science
>paying $900 to do so
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>>127977313

>Not reading spoilers
>Posts picture of himself
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>>127976220
rip balance
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>>127978087
>thinking this post is about anything you said
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>>127978293
Not really, considering the 325a, Avenger, Delta, and Reliant Tana all outgun it as is.
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>>127969683
Picked one up myself. It's a whole damn flying comfyzone in itself.
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>>127960617
>Latest Official Podcasts
>10 for the Chairman
Why so serious?
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>>127970392
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>>127970392
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Fleetposters are worse than furries.
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>>127980179
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Freelancer in AC when I just want to use quad combines on a puny fighter
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>>127982983
Considering it used to be

AND the S4s got downsized to S3s

I'd say you're double late to the party, kiddo
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>>127970392
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Is it out yet?
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Which ship will be the next one to be flyable, place your bets.
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>>127983974
Not yet derek. Better write another tumblr post about how it's never coming out.
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>>127985307
your mom
>she wasn't already playable in the initial pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha
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>>127985420
>implying 64 bits positioning could handle my mom
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>>127985320
lol, nice response template mr cultist
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>>127970392
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>>127970392
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I honestly think all these fleet pictures are just one retard picking arbitrary selections of ships and posting them.
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>>127986030
We will never know for sure.
4chan should be more like reddit and have accounts.
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>>127986175
Yeah. 4chan should be more like reddit in practically every way.
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>>127986175
Horror stories like that belong in /x/
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>>127986175
Go check /b/, they have ids
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>>127986612
Nevermind, they used to.
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>>127986030
>32 posters
>10 hangar list
It's just that it's always the same pictures posted over and over, we are redditing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHAXsJHPuw
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>>127986014
>4 auroras
Spot the testfag.
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I have improved the function of the retaliator
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>come at me
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>>127970392
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>>127986854
I didn't really expect to say it, but holy shit the Retaliator looks bad nowadays.
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>>127987384
>tfw /scg/ used to be Aegis general
this pleases me
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>>127987421
>/scg/
>used to be aegis general

er, no?

>He bought an avenger
>Redeemer is shit
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>>127987536
people used to say Best Dynamics a lot, even if it's because of the tali, I don't even get why people like it so much
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>>127987595
It raised the quality bar of the ships by quite a bit, but it has pretty much been surpassed now. My biggest issue is the fact that the current in-game mesh is just a fucking mess. I don't know if it's due to the LoDs or what, but it doesn't look anything like
https://youtu.be/fxEWc6IvtQc

Oh and obviously both interior and exterior are hardly practical right now. Fucking least functional ship in the game.
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So do you think that for the next CitizenCon in Cologne, CIG will urge all backers to attend while bringing their wives/girlfriends/daughters?
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>>127987595

That was because two sharkfag degenerates kept spamming it in every thread.
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>>127986854
all you did was rip the wings and tailfins off, how does that help?
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>>127987801
>CitizenCon in Cologne
CitCon 2016 is in LA.
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>>127988094

Yes, I know. But when it goes back to Cologne I mean. You think CIG will invite some of the local Syrians to enjoy his creation and the comopany of his backers and their closest female relatives?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBFynCIh9OU

I made a video.
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>>127986683
>>127986612
>>127986175
i dont care if its bait.
go away reddit
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>>127978293
>giving it similar firepower to a base hornet (hornet would still have better protection, and more cargo capacity than an avenger or base aurora)
>upset balance

Picking both makes you a hornet nigger

Or sabercuck
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>>127988465
I give it a 7/10
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Right so I think I'm going to get this vapourware piece of shit because I'm an idiot who can't resist burning money on things that seem nifty.

I've been thinking about getting an Avenger Titan, because it looks wicked smart, semi cheap, isn't overly specialised like the Warlock or Stalker and has an interior I can walk around in (which is a must have for me).
But should I get it now or wait until it gets the sheduled redo?
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>>127989702
Get the Avenger Titan, then change it for a Reliant Kore for free when it releases.
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>>127989702
>Buying non-LTI ships
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>>127975427
Still no friends to crew all that shit you rich fuck?
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>>127970392
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Lets not fuck around shall we?
>pic related
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>>127989756
I don't think I like the look of that ship, but I might consider it. It says it has 2 people in the cockpit, but I don't have anyone to play with either.

>>127989786
It's not like I have a choice Anon.


>>127990163
Darnit Anon, it asked for one of those when I made my account less than 5 minutes ago.
Thank you anyway, I'll save it in a text document and hope these things don't have an expiry date for when I get my ship.

Anyway I looked at the packages but the only one there is the Avenger Stalker, I don't see one for the Titan.
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>>127990705
You can upgrade to a titan once you have any package that is less expensive.
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>>127990818
So I should get something like an Aurora or Mustang package and then I can upgrade that to a Titan for a cheaper cost than the Stalker package?
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>>127990705
Get an Aurora CL package and upgrade it for the Avenger titan for 5$.
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>>127991008
Just to note, not all ships have a game package though which prevents you from upgrading to the larger ships (if you decide to do so down the line). Pretty much all the one seater ships do have game packages though.
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>>127991008
Just get any GAME PACKAGE that comes with a ship that is the one you want or cheaper.
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>>127991008
You don't save money by doing anything, you can just always upgrade for exactly the price difference (but not downgrade)
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>>127991196
>>127991329
But what about the better hangar, extra money and insurance that comes with the Stalker? I'd need to buy all that separately, wouldn't I?

I don't understand why they don't just have 1 package for every ship and you can select which variant you want with a corresponding price change.
I also don't understand why the specialised Stalker is the base model of the Avenger and not the all purpose Titan.
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>>127991682
Otherwise just get the Avenger Stalker and remove the cells once if it's possible.
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>>127991682
You get whatever hangar is associated with your ship, and all hangars cheaper than that by default. You get all the other stuff as well when you do a ship upgrade, don't worry about it.
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>>127991823
No way Jose, I'm not buying it if I might not be able to change it!
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>all those terminals for crew use

God damn man, its scary that there is SHITTONS of mechanics to be implemented. I really hope we get to fiddle with them near autumn.
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>>127991953
Of course you can change it, the cells are just a module slapped in the cargo bay. You'll be able to swap them around at some point when modules are implemented in the holotable.
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>>127989702
Stick with the basic game package. You'll be able to earn it in-game.
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>>127970392
I have shit taste
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>>127992012
Does it worry anyone else that stations like shielding will be completely useless unless they are also paired with some sort of view like the pilot has of WTF is going on around the ship? Like at the moment all crew stations just have a view of a contextless control panel.
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>>127989702
The Avenger rework is already done, they didn't update the stats page yet.

In fact, you should ignore the entirety of the stats page. It's wrong anyway.
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>>127992237
And getting an expensive ship just makes it more likely to piss you off when it gets fucked up*


*superhornets are immune to this
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>>127989883
:^)
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>>127992376
>buy Phoenix or 890 Jump with real money
>lose it to a bunch of Aurora LN
>cry on the forums
The Beta days will be glorious.
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>>127992827
I remember retards saying the same thing about Javelins and I still don't believe it.
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>>127992992
Isn't the Javelin just some huge metal box without any guns, shields or systems on it when you buy one?
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>>127993057
The Idris maybe, I'm not sure about the Javelin.
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>>127993229
They said that the Javelin comes without the turrets and guns.
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>>127993306
What the fuck are the whales who bought one of these even planning to do with it? Like literally, what fucking purpose?
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>>127993306
Did they get rid of the stupid "the sides are modular!" feature?
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>>127993678
I remember reading about one whale buying it because it was going to be quicker to have a Javelin released than a Merchantman for the same cargo capacity.

>>127993798
Why isn't the big turret on top of the command deck instead of being an asymmetrical piece of junk?
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>>127993798
I highly doubt they'll take out something which is kind of its selling point entirely
Have they ever said how large the Hangar Bay is supposed to be? Like how many ships can it hold in comparison to the post-frigate Idris?
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>>127993678
Rent it to Orgs.
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>>127993926
Last info was a single medium ship, but they might have changed that. If you really want to you can watch the Javelin part of the holiday stream again, maybe they showed the hangar.
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>>127993926
One redeemer.
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>>127993920
That would probably look weird, having the turret on top of the command deck where all the soft humans are.
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>>127994118
Huh, never realized the Hull E was that big

Have they said anything on making an actual corvette? I want to see if they give it to another manufacturer other than Aegis/Anvil/RSI
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>>127994156
it looks weirder to me to have the main turret behind the command post. It doesn't obey the rule of cool, how are you supposed to see your shots leave the barrel to then crash on Furry scum if the turret is behind you?
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>>127994287
They are doing an unnamed Corvette, it would be a Carrack/890 sized ship with some anti capital ship guns.
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>>127994118
It's easy to forget just how fucking huge the Bengal is.
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>>127994407
The old corvette Idris was a little larger than that, think more around the size of the Reclaimer.
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>>127994438
Although when you're flying past it, it doesn't seem that large since it takes like 2-3 seconds to fly past
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>>127994617
Perspective is weird like that, everything seems small in Star Citizen til you get close.

How big is Port Olisar, for instance, in comparison to the Retribution?
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>>127994702
The best example was the old size chart with the terraforming beam compared to the Bengal.
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>>127994549
I find it funny how the old Idris could barely fit a single hornet in the hangar width wise and now it can fit two side by side hornets with wings folded. Foundry 42 is the studio we need.
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>>127994617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr-03jhw9XI#t=02m15s

This is what I mean, although the video is quite old
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>>127970392
Waiting for Tali launch on live so I can trade one for a Tali
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>>127995105
Old bagel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0hQMBwi8YI
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>>127970823
+1

Aurora MR -> LX -> Avenger Titan

Might CCU to a Herald if it winds up being a great scout/recon ship

If I win a big giveaway I'm melting for a Cat or Starfarer

Really look forward to being a crewman on a Starfarer
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>>127994751
Right, I'm thinking we need something like that but with Port Olisar or some other station we actually can walk around.
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>>127988465
10/10 reference best thing ever

3/10 meme, is the joke just that m50 is kind of fast? What of it? Needs a punchline, leaves the audience unsatisfied.
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>>127996719
LN*
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>>127997510
The video ends with a shitty pilot in an m50 getting slowly shot to pieces by a hornet shitter.
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>>127997331
Port Olisar is supposed to be abit over 3 kilometres long, so that's two Kingships.
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>>127997510
I believe I missed the punchline entirely.
If I were to change the subtitle to "super hornet motherf" would it work?
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>>127998715
Buggies enabled in Port Olisar for mass vehicular homicide when?
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>>128001380
to this.
made some ~100 bucks profit doing it.
Did I do the smart thing guys? Will I regret it?
That's a reliant Tana btw.
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>>128001530
Definitely. You just gained 100 dollarydoos and gained yourself fun times earning those ships you want in game. You win
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>>128001530
My heart goes out for the Carrack but otherwise you're fine.
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So nothing <125USD other than hornet is combat viable?
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>>128002402
what.
The Avenger is very much viable.

Hell, even the Aurora LN has been in the top leader boards at one point.
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>>128001891
What's with the Carrack circlejerk ITT?
Why's everyone so infatuated with it?
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>>128002556
It's kaul
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>>128002556
Someone started a shitty meme that the Carrack was a milf and now every desperate loser is jizzing themselves over it.
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>>128002682
They what?
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>>128002402
The Merlin is fierce.
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>>128001380
>>128001530
Did you use leddit trades? I feel like trashing some of mine.
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>>128002556
As a spaceship design and concept I think it's neat, even though all the friendless loners that own one are delusional.
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>>128002556
It's probably the nicest looking multicrew ship aesthetically, and it is exactly the same size and basic design as the Bebop. It's the nearest thing that captures that kind of aesthetic of what people think a spaceship that explores the galaxy should be like.
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>>128002556
because it is literally voyager
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>>128004204
It's LITERALLY the Bebop.
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>>128004295
Fuck.
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>>128004295
Except it looks nothing like the Bebop?
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>>128004606
Cover a Carrack in thick brown armour and they are the same.
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>>128004805
Maybe if you're fucking high, half blind and squint a little.

The only thing they have in common is that they have big nacelles on the side. Do the Freelancer and the Cutlass look like the Bebop too?
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>>128004951
And the deck on the top with the door, and the overall shape and size.

Meanwhile it could hardly look LESS like Voyager
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>>128005313
But the bridge is at the front of the ship and not high in the middle? What do you mean deck and door on the top, there's nothing on the top of the ship apart from a hangar door which is on the floor and not at 90 degrees from it like on the Bebop.
And the shape isn't even similar what are you fucking smoking?
How can you even know they're a similar size too?
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>>128005313
>>128004295
>You will never make a sea landing on your carrack on some ocean world and fish off the comfy as fuck deck while your waifu sunbathes
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>>128005654
Actually The Bebop is a bit larger, but other than that its the same overall form. You name me a single other ship that has deck you can walk around on the top with a door like both the Carrack and the Bebop have? The only difference is that door is also the hangar door with Bebop whereas the Carrack has that on the top deck floor.
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>>128005792
Have you not seen Pupil to Planet and their plans for collectable fish, retard?
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>>128006137
>it has a top deck (which doesn't even share the same function and is barely big enough to qualify as a deck)
>ITS L I T E R A L L Y THE SAME
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>informal usage doesn't exist please rape my face
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>game is buggy alpha
>LIVE/PTU
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>>128006851
Honestly? Because the people playing and testing are crybabies who throw a fit every time the game crashes or shows instability.
They have to separate it into PTU and Live so they can give the PTU builds the "unstable piece of shit" disclaimer so the person playing it doesnt mutate into derek smart after the first ctd.
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2.1d is actually pretty stable. I'm getting 30 FPS regularly now.
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Would the validity of Ted Cruz's ability to become president only need to take place after election, and if so, what would happen if the Supreme Court denies to verify the wording?

To my knowledge they can just leave it be without doing anything
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>>128006851
Because they wanted to let people have a somewhat stable 2.0 and a less stable 2.1 over the holidays.

In general, to allow actual testing of features on the PTU build, and have people playing on the live build.

Is this actually hard to understand, or were you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>128008056
>In general, to allow actual testing of features on the PTU build, and have people playing on the live build.

There is only testing atm, nothing has real meaning and both are extremely buggy
The relative stability of the two instances doesn't warrant a split
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>>128007935
>era of white guilt/the current yearing
>62% white

Clinton will win
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>>128004295
nah, the bebop would be a starfarer that's been converted into a mini carrier.
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>>128008973
I disagree. Yes, most of the social issues of today stem from that core epidemic, but the popularity of dissenting sentiments are rising just as fast with the proofs of the end results.

With moderates now being open to anti-immigrant ideals, I feel it's now apparent that the problem wasn't that everyone was simply self-cucking, but that the non-vocal majority had no benefit on opposing these toxic ideals.

This is the core reason why Trump will win.
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>>128008712
>at this moment
That is why I said 'in general'. As in, at all other times than now, shortly after the holidays.

At this moment, it is because they wanted to let people have a somewhat stable 2.0 and a less stable 2.1 with new shit over the holidays.

Is that so hard to understand, or are you still pretending to be retarded?
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We know you posted your hangar /scg/ but what will be that endgame ship you're set to get ingame after countless hours of grind.

Pic related
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>>128009892
>somewhat stable
Doesn't warrant a split though, very sorry
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>>128010157
Then why don't you head over to RSI and tell the people there about your concern over the split between 2.0 and 2.1 on the PTU, I'm sure they'll be happy to hear all about it.
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>>128010641
ok thanks
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>>128009974
>endgame

I'm going to be smuggling space crack in my connie with my tevarin copilot. Stacking my cargohold with fat stacks of UEE credits.
There is no endgame. except for the one in SQ42 when you make some big play against the Vanduul and halt their advance.
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>>128009974
Vanduul carrier.
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>>128010779
>There is no endgame
Indeed, but you still halt your progress somewhere, follow your dream like this anon >>128011162
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>>128011314
When my drug cartel is galaxy spanning and there is a joint task force between the Xian and UEE to take me down, that'll be my end game.
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>>128009195
The Starfarer is really more like Serenity if we are going down that route. The Carrack even has a snub fighter.
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>>128006614
But they do share exactly the same function (as something to walk around and launch ships off).
> and is barely big enough to qualify as a deck)

Oh you are literally retarded, why didn't you just say?
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For the people that kept insisting they just changed the loadout and not the ship's mounts, the Freelancer officially has S3 hard-points on the turrets. Still handles too similarly to the larger and better in every way Constellation to justify it's tiny cargo hold. Still hasn't had the view adjusted.
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>>128009974
I genuinely don't want to own any of the larger ships. I'd be happy just flying some reworked version of the Cutlass Blue that's not total ass and doing high risk smuggling runs.
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>>128006138
>>128008056
>>128009892
>>128012273

I feel like you have some beef with the disabled for some reason
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>>128012273
>you are literally retarded

Funny coming from the blind guy.
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>>128009974
Most likely a Constellation exploring new systems and finding hidden artifacts while lurking in abandoned space stations facing off alien horrors.

I'm a System Shock and Alien Isolation fanboy
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>>128016214
Blue a QT
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some sort of xian cargo ship used in S42.

though I assume it's suppose to fly vertically instead of how it's positioned in the images

http://imgur.com/a/huLHT
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So

Have they said anything about when to release 3.0?
Late summer? Christmas? Late 2017?
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>>128015558
Hopefully they look like disgusting aliens.
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>>128016616
Somewhat less ugly now but that might be because the picture isn't yellow
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>>128016214
I have a collar very similar to that one.
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Also it's huge
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>>127975715
>peaks

fucking trolls
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>>127975882
>never leave

No, I'm sure they'll stuff his fat carcass and mount him in chris' office when he's dead. (hopefully soon)
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>>128017556
Jesus
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>>127987785
Might be the LODs. At the moment they're just auto generated by cryengine or maya or whatever and the result is predictably awful
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>>127991252
>not all ships have a game package though which prevents you from upgrading to the larger ships

that's wrong though.

You can upgrade to anything from anything, as long as what you're upgrading to is available and costs the same or more.
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>>128018496
I think what he was trying to say was that you can't upgrade to a gamepackage from a ship that doesn't have one.
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>>127970392
Support bitch reporting in
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>>128006842
millenials gents
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>>128009974
I already own a reclaimer but once I've made enough money I want to turn it into a pirate flagship
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>>128019252
oh right
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>>128019737
>Reclaimer
>Pirate Flagship
Good luck with that
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>>128006614

I'm with this guy, people that share opinions similar to >>128006137 are retarded, and Cowboy Bebop was a shit series anyway in which every god-damned episode starts in a fucking bar.

It's nothing like the Bebop, except maybe size. We will see more utility out of the Carrack than an overrated sci-fi anime's ship unless you're talking about LoGH, mother fuckers.
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>>128023321
And you win the award for being a special kind of retarded, the "hurr durr all that matters is how much I personally like a series" type. So congrats for that.
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>>128012626
>freelancer isn't allowed to be inferior to a ship that cost 100 dollars more, shares its multirole function, and costs more in-universe
I'm so glad you retards voluntarily confine yourselves to places like /scg/ where no dev will ever read your shitty opinions.
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>>128023321
Sit down, have a drink and calm down
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>>128023321
The show is hella overrated but has fucking 10/10 ship design. The Bebop is pretty similar to the Carrack in some ways (the top deck thing), the overall shape and size etc but it has a very different bridge.

At least you are 100% right about LOGH. Fucking GOAT.
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I've noticed that when Chris does the "10 for the Chairman" episodes, he ALWAYS uses words like "maybe, could, perhaps" in front of all statements that he makes about features.

It's almost like they don't have an actual plan and he just says whatever he wants in order to appease the question.
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>>128028369
Well it's more that 90% of the questions are "Hey will this cool feature I made up be in it?" and he doesn't want to outright say its a terrible idea for the bad ones, or guarantee that the good ones will be in, so he goes for the diplomatic response.
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>>128028367
OK, one punch man.
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>>128028369
10ftC is just Chris avoiding the question as much as possible, I stopped watching a long time ago because there was a lot of repeat questions and that goon Beer kept appearing.
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>>128028681
>le anime connoisseur
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>>128028681
?
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>>128028369

>>127781960
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is 2.0.0/PTU fun? i havent played in a super long time
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>>128028992
>>128029041
I don't know. I have a friend who watches that show. I'm just trying to stay relevant.
I'm like 75% normie
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>>128030964
Check its features, it's a babby universe, example and foundation of what's to come.
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>>128031274
OPM is a weird one, the manga was super popular with /a/ and was pretty much universally liked for being slightly subversive of its genre's tropes and funny, then an anime gets made and goes MEGA FUCKING viral and mainstream and ...you can work out the rest.
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>>128027704
>Its justified that the Connie handles the same as a smaller ship that holds less than half the cargo because it costs way more.
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>>128028369
There are only so many ways a man can say 'we're working on it you faggots'.
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>>128031829
Conniefags really are going to bawl their eyes out once the new ship weights get implemented and they can't swing around like a Hornet.
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>>128033957

>le epic meme
>>
I just watched the first episode of LoGH to see what y'all were going on about.

>24 minutes of exposition dialogue and steak eating later

I don't understand the appeal.
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>>128027704
>muh real world cost = in-game cost

HORNET NIGGER ALERT
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>>128035879
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>>128031829
>be you
>walk into a car dealership
>"excuse me mr. salesperson, I was looking at your vehicles and two of them caught my eye. one was a used piece of shit from the early 90s that was cheap when it was new, and the other is a brand new full size pickup truck."
>"The truck is much bigger, and holds much more cargo, but doesn't handle any worse than the piece of shit. It's better in every way but costs way more. THIS ISN'T FAIR. I DEMAND YOU AND REALITY JUSTIFY YOURSELVES TO ME"
>salesperson just looks at you
>"Get the fuck out weeb faggot and take your anime reaction images with you back to reddit."
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>>128033087
Everything will be able to spin around, the only thing that may change is if they have to decouple.

Everything has enough thrust all over to do high (100m/s+) speed turns, and turns take a lot more thrust than a spin.

Ships relying on armor and DPS will always be the best under CIG's claimed goals.

That means hornets & vanguards. Everything else built on gimmicks like stealth or agility are memeships
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>>128037191
>Ships relying on armor and DPS will always be the best under CIG's claimed goals.

Must be why the Gladius does so well


..wait
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>>128028369

It's almost like he doesn't want to commit to things because if he does then raging autistics will throw a shit fit if it's not implemented by the end of the beta phase.
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>>128033087
They're already butthurt because the ship has been lowered to 155 m/s on the ptu. Even though that's basically the speed everyone expected it to be before 2.0

Not to mention, while other ships owners are bitching about not being able to fight one damn ship, conniefags keep complaining about how they can't defeat three hornets at once.
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>>128038175
>conniefags keep complaining about how they can't defeat three hornets at once.

I kept telling them Chris was talking about stock F7Cs when he made this comment, but nobody listened to me.
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>>128038175
I'm only sad that they keep nerfing missles over and over again.
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>>128037191
Still not convinced the anti-fighter vanguard will be worth a shit. It will probably be fast but, clumsy and easy to hit. If it doesn't cripple something in an alpha strike it's toast. Seems like the torpedo boat and ewar variants will be much more viable in the long run.
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>>128038559
Last mention of it we have is RtV Ep73

"they are still intending for it to be three hornets against a Connie. They’ll take lots of damage too. For a Tali, it’s three hornets, and one of those hornets is dead."

But I don't know how you can know Chris specifically meant one single loadout for an F7C.
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My co-pilot and waifu
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>anyone here checked this shit out?
>fucking lol @ the inflated sense self importance of this faggot
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>>128040341
haha fucking wrecked
another win for kong
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>>128040168
>wooden floor on a ship
>chair not bolted to floor
enjoy seeing your overpriced whore being thrown around the bridge and wooden splinters lodging in that airbrushed face when attacked.
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>>128040341
Having $100 million does not make you a 'multi-million dollar company'.
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>>128040341
Why doesn't he just make a new account?
Jeez
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>>128040341
>Having a multiple-paragraph email conversation with CS about the state of the project, after complaining about how long they were taking to respond to tickets

Gee I wonder why they're bogged down
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>>128040965
>muh internet identity
that's why. he spent so long building up this rep for being a pillar of the community to the point where he thought he could do or say anything. then when he found out he couldn't he threw a hissy fit on his own forums and via CS tickets.
>maximumfaggot.jpg
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>>128040341
At least we found out fag4thefaggods first name is kevin
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>>128040341
Now go look in the SomethingAwful thread.
They're fucking obsessed with hating the game, it's like if we spent day after day in generals for games we despise.
It's understandable for Derek Smart because he doesn't want competition/humiliation, but the rest of them are fucking weird.
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ANVIL STRONK! CARRACK BEST SHIP!
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>>128042468
seems some hotpockets and weebs get upset everytime you post that image, even if your post is on topic and not violating rules.
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>>128043328
or he's ban evading, because everytime he posts the image it's a shitpost and not on-topic. regardless if he reposts it a second time to seem on-topic.

basically, fuck off kwa.
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>>128043328
Probably because it's the same shitter from KWA who shitposts and then complains when his posts gets deleted.

At this point he's probably just ban evading and just too predictable to get away with it.
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>>128040341
And all that started because he was pissed off by how shitty the cutlass was...
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>>128042054
>Now go look in the SomethingAwful thread.
fuck that, i'd rather attempt gender-reassignment surgery on myself only using rusty melonballer
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>>128043462
>>128043515
oh, well that makes more sense. probably that regulas faggot.
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>>128043541
well that's fair enough, it is shit and nothing like what it was supposed to be. i guess he thought since so many other citizens were shitty @ ben for completely fucking the ship up and supported his views, he was the voice of the people for everything sc-related.
lol @ him finding out the had way he wasn't
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>>128044395
this isn't the board to post traps on faggot
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>>128043462
>being this salty over taiwanese cave paintings
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>>128044395
>>128044525
epic samefag. upvoted.
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kill the shitposter, kill the thread
>such is life in the /scg/ zone
Is there a date for 2.1 release yet? is this the thing erin said was a surprise on around the girth?
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>>128047898
2 weeks.

But seriously who cares. There's more important shit to do.
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>>128044321
>supposed to be.
Now bow, it's probably supposed to be shit, because Ben "fuck pirates" lesnick is directing ships.

The problem is it was sold as being agile, able to fight then loot
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>>128047898
Everything seems pretty stable, the only question is if they're planning on adding anything else or doing more work on the Freelancer before going to live. I wouldn't think they'd push the ship out the door with out even a radar ball.
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>>127985896
My mayne
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>>127990375
This better be the year we see interior shots of the rest of the ship.
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>>127990375
>wanting to fly a big slow defenseless target.

You do know that Carrack's will be breakfast for all hornets and avengers?
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I want to help crew one of these at least once just to check out those jungle bubbles
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>>128051780
That's not true at all.
It will be a four course meal with boarding as the main.
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>>128051780
>defenseless

Its main defense is operating far outside the reach of fat-ass Hornets that need more donuts every 20 minutes to keep flying.
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>>128051921
I want to explore one of those that has every module just to see what they're like
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>>128051780
Not every ship in the game has to be measured by their combat prowess, it isn't like you're going to be jumped by Hornets every single day
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>>128052456
>it isn't like you're going to be jumped by Hornets every single day
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>>128052456
Anyone here with Subscriber forum so they can ask a question for us?

Please ask if weapon damage is going to use caliber as the base variable with other variables being modifiers to that original value.

For example: Will 10mm have a set damage value set in stone with the damage difference between a 10mm pistol and 10mm rifle coming from other variables like barrel length?
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>>128028369
People will be (somewhat rightfully) very pissed off if he promises something or says something directly will be in the game and they wind up not being able to implement it.

I just asked Lando a question on StarCast and he said "It doesn't go against our vision for the game"
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>>128051921
I want a hull mod where the ship carries one giant elliptical bio-dome and the ship is a horror-filled ghost ship
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Is this game comfy
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>>128055418
If you have a comfy ship, yeah.
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>>128055418
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14694-Fleshing-Out-The-Starfarer

ctrl+f "Internal Development"
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>>128055418
If you want it to be.

I don't have the comfy beta image
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>>128055054
>derelict ships and stations can have xenomorphs in them
>reclaimer or carrack pulls up to investigate
>ship is taken over, crew murdered
>floating, expanding graveyard of deathtraps pinging people's long range scanners as salvage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt3s-oHlIvM
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>>128055925
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znR3JvQJPMc
>derek is given a soapbox to bitch about the game
>his only vocal supporter is a nigger with a lisp
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>>128058337
>Posting a 9 hour youtube video with no highlight or reference

oh, and I don't care.
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>Engage Quantum drive to hit up a security outpost
>Something goes wrong
>Warning: Approaching edge of known universe

HELP
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>>128058920
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>>128058745
>followed link
>made a post
>"I don't care."
lolfgt
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>>128059878
>Not having youtube embedded on 4chan

no john you are the faggots
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>>128059461
Does SC have a dedicated screenshot button at all?
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>>128060120
>still caring
anytime you you want to leave and smear some prep-h on yourself, just say so. Meanwhile the rest of us will talk about spaceships.
>>128060302
I believe so, check the keymaps
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>>128060302
pretty sure it's just print screen.
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>>128061735
>Meanwhile the rest of us will talk about spaceships.

It was a video on derek. Nothing to do with spaceships.
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>>128061735
Was looking, didn't see. Will check again.

>>128061757
Well fug. I don't play in Windowed and only get a black screen.
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>>128058337
Derekt Shit's famous reading comprehension?
>>
Haven't played since the early arena commander releases, what's there to do in the game so far?
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>>128063959
a little sandbox solar system and the ability to shoot the pistol and SMG on foot
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>>128063959
Check back next year
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>>128064060
So, more than Elite Dangerous?
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>>128065020
no trading or massive universe

I bought SC back in October 2012 only after confirming that it was going to have on-foot gameplay and combat

ED not having it makes it undesirable to me, the Horizons pricing makes me think waiting until they are totally done with Dangerous to buy is the best bet
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>>128066078
>Massive universe

I thought Star Citizen wasn't aiming for a massive universe. Which isn't a bad thing, as the universe in E:D is incredibly repetitive. Also, I would suggest waiting until the expansion you want is out, as they're looking to be putting out an expansion each year that they're selling.
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>>128066078
Yeah I spent $70 US or something on ED, full of regret.

It was fun for about 12 hours of gameplay and then it was just grinding. No depth to the gameplay mechanics at all.

And Horizons price is just a kick in the groin while I'm down.

I just want a game where I can fly a ship, build my wealth and power and then use that power to sway faction balance in a solar system (or take out the factions entirely and leave it in anarchy). Whether it's first person or not, at this point I'm bored enough that I don't care.
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>>128066616
>hen use that power to sway faction balance in a solar system (or take out the factions entirely and leave it in anarchy)

Going to be disappointed in SC then.
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>>128066616
>use that power to sway faction balance in a solar system

That's still only EVE even when this comes out
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>>128066593
>>128066616
The SC universe will still be big, not like ED though, they're going for stories and characters with writing for each system instead of just <infinity number of systems that are fairly boring

SC having FPS combat at least told be there would be value just playing it as an interesting FPS game if the rest is all shit

Really look forward to being on a Starfarer crew because that ship looks cool, not a big fan of space combat t.b.h. even less so now that they are making gimbals suck
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>>128038561

As a a top pilto. I actually feel missiles are i na very good plce atm, they are a tool for causing a "break" i nengagement, they force you or your opponent (whomever is reciving a missile lo0ck and missiles in air) to deal with the missile through manouvering and flare/chaff spam to avoid being hit. Equally if you are hammering somone releasing a few "Suprise!" missiles on them during close knife githing or general longrange supression, can and i emphasise "CAN" give you the neccessary damage to end them.

tl:dr - missiles are easily avoiaded, but when you are under duress the stress can cause you to still get hit.
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>>128066967
>>128067032
Yeah I know, but this still looks like it will have more in depth universe and mechanics than ED.

My dream game will never be realised, except maybe by Egosoft's next game (assuming they don't pull X Rebirth 2 out of their ass).
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>>128067194
>My dream game will never be realised

Our grandchildren will enjoy it :(
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>>128067032
Not even EVE, since solo players and small groups wield literally no power in the universe.

The multiplayer/MMO craze is literally the worst thing to happen to space vidya.
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>>128067412
just like real life

unless you assassinate someone important
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>>128053407
What are you, some sort of fallout faggot? 10mm isn't a common caliber, the only reason it seems cool to retards is that 10 is a bigger number than 9.
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>>128067643
Yeah, I don't want to play real life, or anything close to real life, for that matter.
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>>128067774
it's the round that's already in the game but okay be a moany retard
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>>128067774
>>128067921
also 10mm is popular under the name .40 Smith & Wesson and both that and 10mm auto are more powerful than 9mm

what are you, european?
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>>128068464
Why not 11mm then?
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>>128068634
Because 10mm is a sci-fi staple and .44 and .45 are called .44 and .45
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>>128068914
What makes 10mm a sci-fi staple?
your mom is a sci-fi staple
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>>128068914
>>128068634
also 10mm is the longer version of .40 SW

so long .44 and .45 aren't called 11mm because .44 Magnum and .45 Long Colt already exist
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>>128069272
Because a lot of integral sci-fi writing happened after the FBI switched to 10mm which was quickly found to be to powerful so it was necked down to .40 SW and 10mm became pretty much the same as nuclear powered gadgets - antiquated and impracticable so perfect for sci-fi writings of alternate history
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>>128069347
>>128069610
You win this round, /k/ikes.
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>still no AK's planned for SC

JFMSUF, we can't have just Halo guns
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>>128071027
Space pirates gotta get something good
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>jetpack unlocked for backer stretchgoal
>"JK we meant EVA suit"

[angry wojak]
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>>128071112
they'll start off with some cool design and then end up tacticooling it up before launch

I'd be okay with this.

Also jury-rigged size 1/2 ship guns supported by Titan suits please
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would be sick to be able to fire the same missiles used in ships from shoulder mounted launchers
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Can we always use the emergency enter/exit since it was confirmed? I'm tired of the slow ass current animations.
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>>128054053
nah he's pretty up front on what is DEFINITELY going to be in the game. He uhhms and ahhs in that case because he doesn't want to tell you a date that the feature will be in because it'll inevitably be wrong. When he says " we might consider doing that" that means no.
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Does anyone know when the Sabre or Superhornet will be on sale again?
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>>128075641
Next anniversary sale around November 2016, at least.
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/spectrum-dispatch/15143-Empire-Report-Suj-Kossi-Suspends-Campaign

>trashvarin trying to run for political office
Not in MY empire.
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>>128075641
sabre will go on sale again when it's flyable
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>>128076103
So does that mean the super hornet will also go on sale again when it's flyable? heyoooooo
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>>128076085
I'd be surprised if they don't have a Tevarin in SQ42.
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>>128075996
>>128076103
Thanks. just looked up the price for them 180 USD. nope nope nope
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Apparently, this is the most recent Herald model.

They really hate Drake, don't they?
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>>128077131
kinda reminds me of that humpback from freelancer
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>>128077131
looks the same as always, i hope it has an ultra high super cruise top speed because the fucking engine the size of the ship is pretty stupid with how top speeds are handled right now
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>>128077131
Interior is a pretty cozy battlestation at least
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>>128077131
Looks better than the one they had at least
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>>128077131
garbo
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>>128077131
Was turning it into a potato really necessary?
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>>128077228
Dromedary?
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Since weebs will have been all killed off by Messer, who will be the new weebs in SC? Will they be watching Tevarin, Banu, Xi'an, or Kr'Thak cartoons?
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>>128079673
MISC
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>>128079673
One of the stories has a Banuaboo and one has a guy who can tell the difference between Xi'an men and women and knows how to say "thank you, m'lady" in their weird turtle language
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>>128079886
MISC isn't a race, dipshit. And it's illegal for 11s to make cartoons in the empire.
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>>128080101
I think they're more like tortoises, kazoku
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>>128080562
Space is a replacement for water, obviously
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>>128079321
Yea thats what I meant
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>>128080887
Inevitably, will some Xi'an teenagers from their version of Chernobyl get into Japanese culture and learn martial arts?
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>>128080101
>>128080887
>>128081436
I wonder if Xi'an have their own reverse weebs who are way into human culture.
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>>128081436
Maybe if Tevarin turn out to be giant rats
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>>128081730
What human culture?
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>>128081807
All of it, orn any of it.
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>>128081730
There are a number of Xi'an expats who live in the UEE because they couldn't stand living in the Turtle Empire anymore

I'm sure more than a few of them are overly fond of human things
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>>128082059
All of, or any of what?
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>>128077131
That better go fast as fuck
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>>128082084
Is green cock the black cock of the future? Will the turtles be impregnating our white women?
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>>128082138
Blue jeans and pop music
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>>128082309
The joke was that there is no human culture. Better luck next time.
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>>128082416
It was a bad joke.
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>>128083263
>a joke must be bad if I'm so retarded it goes right over my head
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>>128083463
Stick to the prop gags, carrot top
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>>128081730
>I only watch Spongebob in it's original human language.
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>>128082250
It would be, if Hornjews weren't stealing our women and selling them into prostitution and sexual slavery
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>>128084687
Is it a horn or just the shape of their skull?
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>>128085349
It's actually an over-evolved and misplaced nose, the result of them being too Jewish for simple cartilage to support their nasal growth
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>>128084687
>>128085556
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>>128085556
>>128085349
Welcome to the future; they've jewed so hard there isn't enough room on their faces to support beaks of that size any longer.
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>>128086583
Is that OC in a SC thread wtf
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>>128086740
That's ancient as far as SC content goes
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>>128086583
Fuck this I'm selling my merchantman
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>>128086740
it is indeed /scg/ OC from like three years ago
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>>128086856
You could always roleplay as a space geman who took the ship at gun point from some bloated banu trader who you caught enslaving human women.
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https://i.imgur.com/tweYMRx.jpg
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>>128088445
>roleplay as a space geman who took the ship at gun point from some bloated banu trader who you caught enslaving human women.
Sehr gut.
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>>128053080
You'd be amazed how many people think they aren't going to die to things.
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>>128092873
I'm not going to die, I'll be escorted everywhere by my legion of alternate account NPCs flying Auroras.
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>>128091360
Where is Chris taking the hobbits?
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>>128091360
>only 2 people with a drink in their hands
fuck i hate this community
>1 of them is chris
thank fuck our leader isn't a faggot
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>>128091360
Do you guys think Sandi is into BDSM? What role?
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>>128093963
They're taking the Hobbits to Isengard
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>>128094103
>you're a faggot if you don't drink
Okay Anon.
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>>128096325
He didn't say that
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>>128096648
Yes I did.
>>128096325
Okay faggot enjoy orange mocca frappachinos while socializing in a pub, you massive fudgepacking douche.
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>>128097573
Wow, someone's projecting.
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>>128097802
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>>128097942
Why do you care what other people drink?
Why are you making the assumption that I don't drink?
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>>128097942
u mad lel
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>>128097573
No, you didn't.

>>128097942
And yes, you're projecting.
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>>128098346
No I'm just keeping the thread bumped. Can we talk about the game that doesn't exist now?
faggot
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>>128056293

I could seriously live in a ship like this if it were real. Fuck man...
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>>128051921
>>128052375

Stick around if you want to be a crewman on an Endeavor. Chances are, you'll be picked up and given UEC for your help. Hell, even I wouldn't mind having people on my Endeavor to help make narcotics.
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>>128098828
It's the perfect NEET room layout
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Am I the only one planning on modding/cheating on a private universe so that I can multiply the payouts by fucktons and fly awesome ships all by myself or with a few friends?

inb4 they cut modding
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>>128099513
Yes.
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>>128099673
pussies wanting to korean grind millions of credits
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>>128099513
>LOOL I cheated myself a gazillion UEC
>LOOL I have the biggest baddest ship that can oneshot everything
>LOOL there is nothing left to do
>LOOL I'm gonna go play Fallout on my Xbox because it doesn't allow me to cheat
pretty xD m8
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>>128100558
I'd rather try all the ships in a few weeks than spend months grinding and not even be half way.

And they're pushing the MMO side of the game pretty hard so you know the progression is going to be snail's pace like Elite Dangerous rather than decent progression like the X games, Freelancer, etc.
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>>128100663
>decent progression like the X games
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>>128100820
wat?

It wasn't hard to get out of your starting ship, and in no time you're building your own fleet, setting up manufacturing facilities and setting up satellites.

Are you one of those cucks who wants Star Citizen to be EVE 2.0, where you have to treat it as a second job, and a single player has no power whatsoever?

Oh I'm posting in a SC thread, of course you want that.

When did games stop being about fun and become masochistic life simulators for neckbeards to dedicate their time to and feel successful because they can't achieve anything of value IRL?
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>>128101048
I won't be modding but I hope CR and the rest don't make SC full of grinding to make the $1000+ backers with all the high end ships happy.

I want a space sim where I can recreate my own Firefly, or Milennium Falcon stories, or hell, even Battlestar Galactica.

Please Chris, don't make this Euro Truck sim in space like Elite Dangerous became.
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So what does CIG plant to sell next?

Any big changes coming soon in the PU?
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>>128101048
Somewhere around the time ultima online started
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>>128101048
Calm down, nobody's taking away your console games nigger
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>>128101048
>resorting to strawman

Never change, /scg/
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>>128101471
>>128101515
I really don't get it. I grew up reading sci fi novels about awesome space adventures, smugglers with ships that had hulls falling apart, standoffs between capital ships and hectic dogfights between fighters.

But these days all anyone seems to care about is doing taxes in space.

So yeah, I'm pissed off because the most vocal part of the fanbase want to emphasise boring analogs to real life chores to the detriment of interesting parts of sci-fi like combat and exploration.
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>>128101426
Next jpeg sale might be the prowler unless they pull another brand new ship out of their ass like the sabre.

Supposedly, next big game things will be working stores, npcs, and the nyx system
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>>128101650
Complaining about straw man arguments when you're the one using meme arrows and calling people casual because they don't want to play space spreadsheets.
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On one side, what everybody seems to forget or not see or even want to acknowledge is that CIG ain't selling ships.

They are given as rewards for funding the development of the game.

But on the other side this can actually be seen as selling ships since then other "stores, shops, car dealers etc..." can just say the same when a customer gives them money and then get something in return as a reward.


So what do people think? Do you see it as a reward for funding a game-developer or plain ship buying?
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>>128101816
>I don't grasp the simple concept that a dangerous/exciting situation loses its merit when there's nothing at stake/everything that's at stake can be replaced easily
ok
EVE Valkyrie is right around the corner anon
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>>128101816
>So yeah, I'm pissed off because the most vocal part of the fanbase want to emphasise boring analogs to real life chores to the detriment of interesting parts of sci-fi like combat and exploration.

The good thing is that Chris doesn't really care what they want. What he wants is basically closer to what 4chan wants in the PU (pvp, espionage, org wars, etc)

>>128101882

Sweet, I can't wait to see the Tevarin aesthetic
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>>128101997

It started out as rewards, but now it's just plain ship buying.
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>>128102014
w a t ?

Just because I don't want months of grinding to progress from one ship to the next, means that I can't grasp that concept?

Maybe you can't grasp the concept that something can still be exciting and dangerous when there's only hours of gameplay at stake, rather than days, weeks, or months.

Hell, playing games like Freespace, it was still exciting and fun even though the only thing at stake was an hour or less!
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>>128101048
But players DO have no power, the economy is over half NPC AT LEAST
>>128102041
I hope they actually include some unique feature in the Prowler, like the Xi'an thrusters, and we still don't know if they have actually made anything like that for the MM which was the first alien ship
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>>128101048
X games have historically abhorrent pacing, trading itself requires a slow as fuck transport ship that takes forever to get anything done, and still needs hundreds of hauls to afford anything worthwhile.
That's why they added shit like the abandoned ships worth millions, or the mission system that can be easily abused for tens of millions of credits.
Or why one of the most popular X2 mods, which was also made official in X3, was an automated AI trader.
You're a fucking retard to take these games as a good example of pacing.
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>>128102386
>I hope they actually include some unique feature in the Prowler, like the Xi'an thrusters, and we still don't know if they have actually made anything like that for the MM which was the first alien ship

iirc the tevarin was the first civilization encountered by the UEE that had floating cities, so they probably have some neat vtol tech of their own. Not sure how it would play into the prowler though. The thing about the prowler that we know so far is that it has a big emphasis on stealth so that you can quietly board an enemy vessel.
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>>128102468
As opposed to EVE/Elite pacing?

At least you COULD automate your trading to do the boring shit for you in X3.

Nice job calling me a retard because I prefer that shit automated (though ideally they'd make the progression not need that in the first place) than have to personally trade for hours on end to progress.

>>128102386
>But players DO have no power, the economy is over half NPC AT LEAST

Still better than Elite Dangerous, where the only ones with power are the developers. Seriously, find the thread on the ED forums where a guy tested the background simulation for months. Fuck all could be achieved.
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>>128101997
It becomes ship buying whenever a ship is available in-game.

But since they always said they'd sell UEC, the practical difference is small.
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>>128102667
>floating cities
need source on that
We need one of those on Earth for the fourth landing zone if CIG still remember that it's a thing
I want to see an original city on Earth
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>>128102786

I remember it being mentioned somewhere, maybe in JP. There was an art piece with retaliators doing a bombing run through a tevarin city iirc
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>>128102716
>At least you COULD automate your trading to do the boring shit for you in X3.
And it'd only become viable after hundreds of hours of boring spacetrucking. Every single beginner's guide I can find that doesn't involve the abovementioned abandoned ships looks like it takes hundreds of hours to get anywhere.
And I'm calling you a retard for calling that "decent progression", nothing else.
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>>128102786


Ok, I found what I was talking about. It wasn't actually floating cities but planetary defense systems

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14324-Flying-Fortress-The-Aegis-Retaliator
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>>128103203
It only takes you an evening of trading e-cells in argon space to get your first jump drive, software and extra freighters for automated trading. Or you can abuse the nvidium bug in teladi space to give you a little boost.
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>>128103808
I mean, Crusader kind of counts as floating city.
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>>128103203
What's wrong with the abandoned ships anyway?
Also even if those abandoned ships weren't, you're stuck with hundreds of hours of space trucking which you can AUTOMATE. Unlike Elite where you have hundreds of hours of space trucking which you CAN'T. It's that simple.

Again, by saying X3's progression was shit you imply that the alternatives (like Elite Dangerous) are better. Which they're not. Freelancer may have been, it's been too long since I played.

It may be a case where X3 is simply the least shit of the lot, but that still makes it better than the rest. Calling me a retard because of that is just plain dumb. It's decent in comparison to the others. Did I really have to spell that out to you, or are you purposely triggering me?
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>>128105141
There is just something unspeakably comfy about slowly building up an automated space trading empire in that game, the first little transport you have doing independent runs set up, and then your first factory, etc. I played up until the point where I got my first cap ship, then I didn't really know where to go from there.
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>>128102716

SC economy is gonna be 90% npc drivern.
This =/= players have NO power.
But players ability to effect the global "universal" economy is very small. Player's ability in groups to affect local economies should be greater, ie blockading a planet could influence local system prices, temporarily.
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Why do people think this ship looks bad? I mean, I'm definitely never going to buy it since it has no use, but am I the only one who adores the raised tail and unique engine design?
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>>128105548
>unique engine design
There's unique, and then there's implausible
Not to mention the "shield generators" look retarded and probably won't fit with in lore shield generators and it doesn't look like an Aegis ship although you could say that of most ships in the contest
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>>128105698
People are really concerned about implausible technology and design in scifi? But I get the thing about the shield generators, although I dont thik they really look that bad if you disregard "lore".
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>>128105698
>>128105795
Also the generators doesn't look that distracting ingame as on the concept art.
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Serious quest /scg;
Do you think they will fix the horrible latency?

Dont answer if you haven't noticed it, because you are the very reason I think they might ignore it...
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>>128105224
Yeah I like taking it slow in the X games. I often quit after getting cap ships, but a bunch of times I did build fleets or large trade empires.

>>128105391
Yeah I dunno where this stuff about economy came from. I don't care about influencing economy so much as being able to make lods of emone by having my own trading empire (which I don't think will be possible in SC anyway). Influencing faction balance in systems is a big thing for me too, again, not possible in SC since it's more of a single-player game mechanic.

The biggest points for me to be able to enjoy the game though are:

>Are the game mechanics in depth enough for me to enjoy "low level" gameplay like being a sole trader with a medium size freighter

>Is there more progression to the game rather than just endlessly climbing the ship size ladder

>Can I interact with NPC factions (like sign up to be a system authority enforcer, or fly a freighter for a trade company, and then climb the ranks in these organisations for salary or other bonuses)

>Can I interact with individual NPCs (hire them, demand their cargo, offer protection, receive missions)

>Can I progress, whether towards ship upgrades or up faction ranks, etc, at a decent rate even as a solo or small group (2-4 people) player?

I'm all for including stuff for people who love joining big faceless groups like 4chan organisations, Goonsquad, leddit armies, etc, but as a primarily solo and duo oriented player I need gameplay to be fun and rewarding for the little guy too.

Same thing with space trucking, it has a huge following (for some reason), but Elite Dangerous overdoes it to the point it's by far the best way to get money. I don't mind trading in the early game but I mainly want to fight. Yeah, make trading profitable, just don't make it so profitable that it's the only way to progress (because Elite bases all the ship prices off the profit you can make by trading).
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>>128101997
What did she mean by this??
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>>128106308
>>>Is there more progression to the game rather than just endlessly climbing the ship size ladder
>>Can I interact with NPC factions (like sign up to be a system authority enforcer, or fly a freighter for a trade company, and then climb the ranks in these organisations for salary or other bonuses)
No to both of these
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>>128105548
>>128105698
>>128105795
>>128105795
>>128105941

Hopefully it'll get a kit bash makeover using parts from REAL Aegis ships and then it will look dope
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>>128106552
DAN
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>>128107160
THE
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>>128107329
MAN
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Dan should really start up an sc org.

I'd join it.
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>>128091360
qt alert
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stand by for creepification

my god brits are hideous. I can see what inspired the uruk-hai.
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mfw I dreamt that I had a Thrustmaster Warthog setup at my desk and then I wake up and see my old shitty Saitek X45 craptastic extravaganza.
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>>128096325
In Norway you'll be asked about alcohol on all job interviews.

If you don't drink and/or have a problem with alcohol. You will most likely not get the job.

Yes, alcohol is a very important part of Norwegian customs.
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>>128101389
Either I don't understand something or you don't. In none of those stories do they ever buy a bigger ship. recreating your stories has nothing to do with the grind.
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>>128106552
>replace side shit with reclaimer's engines
>smooth out the top

Would be alright
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>>128107709
X-45 is nice stick
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>>128107846
Exactly. The stories aren't about some guy or a bunch of people running trade routes for weeks, they're about fun stuff, like shooting other ships, evading other ships and causing a ruckus in space bars.
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>>128108058
well CR has always said "it shouldn't be a 'grind' because the game should be fun' but we have yet to see if that is even a plausible goal; there have been games that I loved to play and had fun doing so and I still considered the ones with a steeper rate to have a grind. and people who are bad at making their own fun will always accuse it of being grindy anyways.
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>>128107810
>Norway

So that does that mean you guys drink stuff like this since the EU is now a caliphate?
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>>128108216
>and people who are bad at making their own fun
EVE fans get out
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>>128108354
>Non-alcoholic

You really peaked my fagometer
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so this place is like something awful v2?
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>>128108354
Norway isn't in EU and muslims don't even drink anyway that's probably coconut water or something
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>>128108035
No, its extremely stiff.
The edges on the plastic piece on top of the spring have a very high friction.

Will fix all this by using strips and vaseline.


BUT, the buttons on both the throttle and stick are horrible.

The rudder paddle on the throttle and top/front red fire button on the stick being the worst of all.
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>>128108774
I understand
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>>128108774
Dont give up fellow stickbro

Thinking of upgrading/switching? Or just something you had around at the time
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>>128105548
>raised tail
furfag detected
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>>128109393
I've had this HOTAS setup since the time I played Battlefield 2 and Joint Operations and it worked ok at that time.

The local shops didnt have much to choose from.

I'm playing SC with M + KB and is planning to buy rudder pedals like the MFG Crosswinds and maybe a Logitech G13 because of analog stick + KB all in one because the HOTAS setup I got is really REALLY bad together with this game.

I think stick will be ok if I use a good stick with great buttons and a 10cm extender to make it more precise.
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>>128105548
nobody really think it looks bad, goons just say that because they know the creator lurks here. people argue about the engines being unlikely (they were fine as 4H designed them, the CIG version is a little retarded) but the overall design is great. I don't get that other nerd's complaint about shield generators either, every ship has them.
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>>128110645
>nobody really think it looks bad, goons just say that
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>>128110793
I bet you started with a cat picture and thought better of it
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>>128110645
Every ship does have shield generators, but so far none of them look so...obvious instead of some internal mechanism
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>>128110971

Paul, please...
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>>128110645
>nobody really think it looks bad, goons just say that because they know the creator lurks here.

Its literally the most hated ship in SC by vote.

It looks like shit.
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>>128111009
Do you really think those tiny circular plates are the entire mechanism? The way it seems the most logical to me is if theres a big generator inside, connected to an external emitter, like on the redeemer.
And since when shouldnt shield generators look "obvious"? Some kind of visible and recognizeble shield outlet only makes it more immersive imo.
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>>128111614
The point is we don't know how external emitters are supposed to look like, for all we know they could actually be even tinier than thrusters
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I really have a problem with seeing what is wrong with the Redeemer.

I think it looks cool.

The only thing I would have done is maybe flesh out the "tail" a bit more.

Can someone tell me the 3 biggest problems with the ship and why so many people whine about it?
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>>128111816
1. Hair curling engines
2. Goofy shield emitters
3. Creator is genuinely autistic
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>>128111816
>obsession with the tail again
furfags pls go and stay go
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>>128111816
One of the more uncommon complaints is that it's too "anime"
Not that I can tell how is that thing "anime", but I think they meant that it doesn't fit within SC
The other thing is just that the entire competition was pretty fucked up, and the only thing we got out of it was THIS
People voted based on team shit, and then when the final vote came you could only vote during the livestream which of course fucked up non-American timezones and then the site went down in the middle of that so people think the other team got fucked from that because their ship was shown later
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>>128111816
A lot of people don't like the plier engines, I enjoy the uniqueness. The design for the rest of the ship a part from the cockpit is not aegis though, the greebles arent sleek enough for the manufacturer design. If they just make the cockpit a bit more blocky and make it an Anvil ship it would all work out.
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>>128111891
>Hair curling engines
There are ships in Star Citizen that have alot worse items compared to them and I dont see them being hated.

Hell, look at Hull A, B and Freelancer.
They look like deformed dildoes with Kinder Surprise balls on the side.

>Goofy shield emitters
What do you mean goofy? Just because they wanted to show them?

>Creator is genuinly autistic
This doesnt make the ship bad.
It's like saying German Tanks was shit in WW2 because they were Nazis.

Inb4 every thread ends in Hitler
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>>128112374
I was arbitrarily pointing out things to whine about anon, not being serious. Except the autism thing. That kid has some deep-seated problems.
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>>128111769
Which is exactly why umistakable external shield emitters are a good visual feautre?
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>>128113078
at least it didn't seem like the Redeemer was a ripoff UNLIKE A CERTAIN OTHER SHIP IN THE SAME COMPETITION
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>>128112374
The Hull series and Freelancer are recognisably MISC, and Star-Citizen style

The Redeemer is not.
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Drake Silverback when? Fuck I'm glad old mate is working for cig now.
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>>128111816

>1)
shit engines

>2)
shit turret placement

>3)
at least two better competitor designs
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Well all this about the Redeemer has been very clearifying.

It's a good ship that looks nice.
People just hate on it because their personal favorite ship didnt win, they whine about an item that doesnt excist and is arguing how something that doesnt excist should look like, they dont like the creator and they hate on a ship just because it looks a little different from what all the other ships from the same manufacturer looks like.

God damnit /scg/ you really touched a new low for me.

You are the type of people that hate on a car manufacturere just because they tried something new?

Maybe all of the ships in Aegis line are older designs and the Redeemer is a new experimental one?

The whiners is at least as autistic as the creator of the Redeemer.
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>>128113552
>two better competitor designs
Which two? And really, the Shard ship had even worse turret placement
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>>128113575
>>God damnit /scg/ you really touched a new low for me.
Clearly you haven't been here for long.
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>>128113730

Shimapan and Tri-Tri.

Tri-Tri didn't make it to the late competition because RSI autists voted in 3Dildos and some other shit group.

Shimapan should not have come in 4th place, at the very least. 3Dildos was there as a sympathy vote and should have been disqualified.
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>>128113575
>God damnit /scg/ you really touched a new low for me.

We have yet to go low enough

We're still waiting on Sandi character models to import to sfm
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>>128113575
>>God damnit /scg/ you really touched a new low for me.
Just wait until we have "The Next Great Mechsuit" contest for the Class 9 armor, we're going to repeat this whole fuckfest instead of getting professional artists who are literally begging CIG to let them do it
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>>128113575
>A "new low" is not sharing your unpopular as shit opinon

Get the fuck back to reddit, Paul
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>>128113575
>Redeemer is a new experimental one

That mental hoop must have been exhausting schem. CIG has their style guides for the manufacturers. If they just followed it a bit more for aegis it would to from alright with some cognitive dissonance on the side due to mediocre flow, to being something possibly iconic. Yes I'm serious.
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>>128113575
>low
That would be the livestream where they let backers into the Austin office, and it ended up being several hours of these faggots instead of actual content.

Never forget the MLG idiot either.
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>>128113575
hownew.ru
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>>128113764
Hasn't been here for TNGS at least
org shitposting is THE lowest for me
>>128113897
Let's face it, if 3Dingo was to get disqualified, it would have been for this
Can't remember anything about Tri-Tri though
Also I think 3Dingo won by only like 6 votes? I don't know about maths but I heard someone say that the margin was small enough that someone could've spammed it
>>128114138
I have no idea what CIG/any game developer should be doing, but I doubt they'll have enough details for the manufacturers at that point, I always thought that it was too early for a contest like that
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>>128114317
damn ben was skinny compared to now
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>>128114397
TNGS was a giant fuckfest, they introduced this guy in the first episode and there was so much negative feedback that he was completely removed because the community hates Big Brother.

He was an actual legitimate backer who happened to be on Big Brother.
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>>128114431

Ben actually inspired me to get /fit/ again
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>>128114397
>Can't remember anything about Tri-Tri though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-zcGEwTIGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEExeBzEGMM

Both are better than 3Dildos and 4eyes
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>>128114561
Or episode 8, I try not to remember too much about TNGS
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>>128114561
>there was so much negative feedback

That's because RSI doesn't understand good showmanship, daddy-o.
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>>128114785
>daddy-o
back to /edg/ with you
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>>128114397

Also, use the full image, faggot.

org shitposting is the only thing that breathes life into these generals at times
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>>128114871
I just grabbed that one off the >forums because I can't be bothered with spending more than 2 minutes to look for that one on the archives

True, we technically only have half a game, at least the general is still here
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I miss Troyka
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>>128114831

The Dan meme was born here, anon. If you saw it in /edg/, it was probably that faggot Confusion.
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>>127971869
Stop buying ships and wait for the game to actually release.

Or do like me and drop one grand on every ship that looks neat.

Guys I'm so hungry please help I think I'm about to be evicted
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Is the Cutlass Black really as shitty as I think it is or am I just an awful pilot? Feels like my guns just tickle pirates to death.
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>>128115023
kind of sad tbqh familiar. They had the best looking ship.
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>>128115859
Yes the cutlass is shit.

It has -ok- firepower if you get rid of it's default loadout because suckerpunches are absolute garbage.
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>buying anything but a starter ship

like... 80-90% of the gameplay of a space sim is starting from nothing and building yourself up to the stuff you want

literally cucking yourself
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>>128114561
>He was an actual legitimate backer who happened to be on Big Brother.
...that got there solely because of BB, that degeneracy may open you plenty of doors, but this wasn't one.
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>>128115998
Some people might want to start the game with a Gladius and do escorting work to earn other fighters.

Also, let the retard shills buy everything they want to. Their stupidity is funding the game we will enjoy. The whales can buy every ship and I won't mind.
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>>128115998
This.
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>>128115998
>>128116163
>pvp won't exist
>you won't need shekels to fund your wars
>it's just grinding ships like erectile:dysfunction

>>>/edg/
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>>128116421
Funding wars? Lol. You seem to be under the impression the scale of PvP battles will be anything like how it would be in S42.

>pvp won't exist
Dumbass confirmed.
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>>128116692
>he can't understand greentext

My mistake, anon.

>>>/reddit/
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>>128117206
No, that's pretty much what you said. Basically the opposite of the opposite of needing shekels to funding your wars, which is wrong, you won't need that.
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Please tell me that these spotlights aren't just concept art fodder. Turret mounted spotlights would fuel my boner for several lifetimes.
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>>128117632
It's safer dealing with commodities.
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>>128117632
>the opposite of the opposite of
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>>128117890
I have no idea what you're talking about dude.
>>128117895
How would "4chan" explain that to a retard then? I don't see another way that would look less stupid.
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>>128117756
There are many different concepts for the Merchantmen. We don't know which one will become a reality.
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>>128111816
>a woman in latex who doesn't look like a tranny

wtf
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>>128118775
Stop looking at nothing but trannies in latex then you idiot.
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>>128119001
>implying they exist outside of that photoshop
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>>128118018
What can't you understand?
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>>128115449
nice false flag mason
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Tried PTU today.

My Aurora LN was missing a weapon set. I only got 2 lasers instead of 4 lasers and a missile launcher that I have in the Live universe.

What happened?
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>>128119413
Can you specify what you're talking about?
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>>128119552
PTU happened.
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>>128119552
That's weird
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>>128119552
Let's blame hornet owners.
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>>128119773
I'm really sorry, in general, I meant.
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>>128119526

Kaelus/Confusion please...
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>>128119979
Yeah, no idea who you'd be mate. Please stop saying unsubstantial shit.
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>>128119907

Hornet niggers are only to blame when something is nerfed, anon. In this case, we're to blame Ben, since he obviously ate the programmer that was in charge of PTU loadouts.
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>>128120035
try again scrub
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>>128120209
I'm really sorry.
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>>128120383
You're telling us to send more Cheez-it's to Big Ben so he'll leave the programmers alone?
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>>128120472

I would, but I don't want to spam the thread.
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>>128120540

Cheez-its or Disneyland. It's the only thing that will appease the girth.
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There's apparently some surprise for 2.1 live according to devs. What do you guys think it will be, or what do you guys want it to be?

Hoping for flight ready Sabre + Vanguard. We will probably get the Starfarer hangar ready though.
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Ben will die of heart attack before Star Citizen will enter beta stage.
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>>128121184
Beta that soon?
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>>127970392
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>>128121307
That's not how that works mate. He didn't specify between the death and beta.
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>>128120998

Will the Starfarer fit in the Aeroview?
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>>128116421
>pvp
if I wanted to play an arena game I'd play something decent like
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>>128122147
like accidentally hitting the enter key

star conflict or something
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>>128122147
>arena
No, carebear, SC won't have some retarded battles like we have in AC. There will be pirates after you if you go to certain areas. This will not change. If you don't like PvP, this may not be the game for you.
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>>128120998
Caterpillar.
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>>128122342
>SC won't have some retarded battles

Except PUa's PvP is even /worse/ than AC.

Speed limits are way too high for weapon range
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>>128122147
>he thinks pvp is only fair fights
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>>128122679
>Anything Drake
>Ever

m8....
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>>128123784
>>128122342

>he reads something into a post that doesn't exist

do you think you need a good ship from day 1 to survive longer than 5 minutes? then the game is basically pay to win

oh wait, it already is
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>>128124252
>pay to win
Right, because super hornets can't beat constellations? Gladii can't beat Super hornets? Merlins can't beat Gladii or Glaives? You're also basing that on the assumption that battling is the only way to be successful at this game. I suppose buying a constellation over a Vanguard is P2W since it can carry cargo, thus "winning" because of different styles of play, amirite!
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>>128124252
>survive

Anon, can you not follow a conversation? The point of someone buying big shit is so they can accrue shekels early and have bank for fighting in wars later when orgs start fighting each other.
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>>128125215
stupid either way, I bet you buy character boosts in wow too faggot
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>>128125281
>playing themepark mmos

Kill yourself immediately.
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>>128125281
kek, try harder.
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>>128125054
Saltier than the pacific ocean.
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>>128126013
>Shit, I was wrong and have no argument
>I'll call the him salty ;)

Way to go. You're still a retard until you prove the other anon otherwise, which you actually can't since anyone can play right now and show that what you said isn't true.
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>>128126523
Well you'd be the resident authority on retardation so I'll have to take your word for it.
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>>128125054
>Gladii can't beat Super hornets?

A better player compensating for a stat disadvantage is still p2w
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>>128111009
not every truck license plate or undercarriage has LEDs on them but that doesn't mean the ones that do 'don't fit the lore'
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>>128111354
>taking some memepoll with biased options as accurate
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When will we see the Caterpillar in hangar?
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>>128127694
In 2 weeks
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>>128127872
You lie.
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>>128115449
I don't play that nongame but I wouldn't be surprised if some retard pretending to be me does
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>>128128126

kek

Sup Confusion.
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>>128126912
The gladius has supremacy in that it has much better maneuverability. I guess now the Gladius is P2W since it makes up for its lack of heavy weaponry and armor like the larger fighters in being very maneuverable. That counts as a stat disadvantage to the hornets!

I'm not even an amazing pilot and I've killed Gladii in a merlin and superhornets in my gladius. I've also managed to destroy 2 or 3 Retaliators in my gladius. Being P2W means you have a clear advantage due to paying more and more money, yet when it comes to PvP, which we currently only have (and is often the usual circumstance for P2W) it certainly isn't the case. You being a shitty pilot who has no ability to stay out of the firing line of a bigger fighter like the SH in something smaller only means you don't know how to battle larger targets properly. You also haven't taken into account that PvP is not the only thing that will be available to 'win' in SC since we will have trading, mining, fueling, and all types of other shit.
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>>128114130
>implying professional artists can't enter the competition themselves

>>128114317
>MLG
what's that? My Little Goony?

>>128128126
>doesn't dispute that he's a faggot
>admits that the role of confusion can (perhaps must) be played by a retard
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>>128131782
That implies the Gladius has any meaningful maneuverability edge and doesn't lose every fight against SH given equal player skill.
They're aware of the shit maneuverability and need to fix it >>127975715
But the end result will be the same because if they're equal in a fight there will be no reason for the hornet to be more expensive.
I don't care about your anecdotal evidence, you could beat shitters while flying an Aurora and it would prove nothing.
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>>128128126
>ED
>nongame

and I suppose SC is a finished polished product?
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>>128131782
Why are you treating PTW as if it's anything other than simple slander?
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>>128132797
it's certainly more polished than one would expect at this stage, and already has more game than ED, despite not being near done.
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>>128131990
>what's that? My Little Goony?

Major League Gaming or Gamer
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>>128133045
>already has more game
>>128132937
>p2w is just slander

>this is what star cucks actually believe

oh god

look kiddo, what is there now is a few locations to fly between on rails, shooting at some bots and walking around an empty ship, that's not a game
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>>128133284
Oh, you're just trolling.

Here's your last (You). I hope you enjoy it.
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>>128133284
>haha if I distill the game down to it's most basic elements (and leave a bunch of them out) I can make it sound bad!
/v/ 101
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>>128133553
>>128133569
>being this delusional
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New enemies in Vanduul swarm when?
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>>128128126
>>128133045
>>128133553
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>>128134456
>goons co-opting Trumpposting
>telling anyone else to 'go back'
your kind ain't welcome here, boy
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>confusion telling someone else they're not welcome here
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>>128127429
Yeah, not some strawpoll with 30 votes, shitlord.

It was on RSI, with 1574 responses.
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>>128116163
CIG practically considers the Gladius a starter ship anyway.
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>>12812171
It gets the r&y hanger I think
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>>128127429
>>128136961

Yup, and it's still leading the poll

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/261325/star-citizen-s-most-hated-ship-poll-v2
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>>128137414

>Mustang that high

Kind of surprised
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>>128137709
>typical rocketgun Mustang nigger
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>>128137709
Its ugly
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>>128137875
Great visibility though.
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>>128137318
>hanger
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>>128137875
but best interior
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>>128139000
trips confirm
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>>128139153
Thanks for responding.
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>>128137875

It's beautiful

>>128139000

I'm going to hope you mean the beta, because every other mustang has a laughably bad interior
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>>128140927
Avenger a best small ship with interior.
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>>128140927
Of course I mean the beta
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Why are roleplayers always drinking alcohol at a bar? Every fucking game.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/261182/black-cat-jack-s-tavern#latest
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>>128141554

Not only no but not even close

Frankly I wish more ships would be redesigned with compact and efficient interiors like the beta
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>>128142582
Starting with the 300 series.
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>>128040341

can I get a tl;dr
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>>128144630
goons are verbose faggots.
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>>128142567
In FFXIV they're always ERPing in player-run brothels.
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>>128145968
brb
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>>128132523
Of course the hornet niggers are already bitching at even the smallest rumor that the gladius might become less of a free kill. https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/310094/the-f7cm-really-needs-s4-wing-mounts/p1
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>>128145605

That's just what RSI does to you. Most of those faggots are some of the most verbose people that I have ever seen. Literally paragraphs of shit in every thread that could be summed up in a few lines at most.
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>>128146760
But Gladius..es aren't free kills.
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>>128146760
After all, it wouldn't do for a 'light' stealth superiority fighter to have more firepower than the UEE's frontline superiority fighter, would it?
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>>128147469
>for a 'light' stealth superiority fighter

If you're talking about the Sabre, its not a light fighter. Its specifically described as a medium fighter.
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I think I bought to many ships.

I think I should have just started as a lone avenger.
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>>128147292

Right now it is a free kill more or less
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>>128148792
I'm sure that has nothing to do with its broken flight model that even the devs admit they fucked up entirely in 2.X

No no, its the hardpoints.
>>
how does RSR plan to "rehype" the game when its time for actual release? Right now, the community is dead. I don't see any news coverage about the game. When the kickstarter was going, all anyone could talk about was star citizen. Now I never hear of it anymore.

Will RSR be able to rehype before release, or is it going to fall flat on its face?
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>>128040341
>imgur
>boo hoo I haven't been able to submit questions to 104tc in a while
he's gotten questions on almost every episode that aired while he was in good standing, fuck him. how many subbers have submitted questions every week and have never been chosen so Ben could appease him and his tribals instead. rather than canceling his subscription when he discovered he can't use it to wedge his shitty repeat questions on the air he decides to waste everyone's time by letting it run on and then demanding a refund. He really is a little Derek.
>>
>>128148954
>Right now, the community is dead

Its really, really not.
>>
I'd really like to see "bigger brothers" to the 300i and Aurora. Nice general-purpose ships that aren't secret military equipment for fucking tryhards.

Or a Drake ship with some actual teeth. I want to be a pirate, but there's no way I'm doing it with a Hornet/Sabre/Gladius/300i.
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>>128148954
what the fuck is RSR?
>>
>>128147469
It's more "obsolete, decommissed UEE fighter vs civilian knock-off of the current UEE fighter"
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>>128149294
>Or a Drake ship with some actual teeth.

I'm sorry, is 5 x S3 not enough "teeth" for you on a fighter-ish sized ship? Because you sure as fuck aren't getting more than that.
>>
>>128148920

?

Didn't say anything about any of those things
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>>128149494
5x S3 doesn't matter when it's strapped onto a freighter.
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>>128148954
The reddit cult will do all the work for them.
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>>128149586
Perhaps you should work on your reading skills

>>128149609
Cutlass isn't half bad in 2.X

Not going to 'pirating' single seat fighters at any rate.
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>>128148920

The gun hardpoints right now put the Gladius at the bottom of the food chain.

At the absolute least the front port should be swappable Size 2. Personally I'd just do that, to keep it on the light side, but then upgrade mobility across the board.
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>>128148920
Perhaps if they buff the guns a bit, the ship won't become utter shit every time they make the least little change to flight mechanics or missiles.
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>>128149759

You should work on your autism friend

Anon says Gladius is free kill > You say its not > I concur that the gladius is currently a free kill > Y...YEAH BUT FLIGHT MODEL

Yes, the flight model being broken is why its a free kill, I never suggest otherwise.
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>>128149293
How is the community not dead? Look at twitch, theres a handful of streamers and less than a 1,000 people watching.
>>
>>128149840
>little change
>2.0

Nigger please

>>128150002
Anon asserts it will become less of a free kill if it gets its guns upgraded. I say it won't because its a ship that relies on manouverability and if it doesn't have it, its going to get shit on.

"I didn't say that!" is just you saying "I'm not reading the conversation!"
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>>128149294
The Aurora already has the Constellation as a big brother ship. But yes, a Origin ship between the 300series and the 890 would be nice
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>>128149494

The Cutlass as it was pitched would have been perfect, but the current version is just too big.

I'd go for a demilitarized Gladiator, with a cargo hold instead of a torpedo bay, but the bubble turret looks completely fucking retarded.
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>>128150272

I cannot attest what that anon said, I do however know what I said which was

>Right now it is a free kill more or less

Which is true.
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>>128150520
If the problem is manouverability, going for a ship that flies like its on a slip n' slide with less guns and its main weaponry removed is hardly an upgrade
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>>128149761
It already is a swapable S2 hardpoint, though normal S2 guns look retarded on the front of the gladius. It really should of had the turret from the concept art, instead of going for yet another A10 Gatling gun thing.
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>>128149494
Not when the weapons fire in random directions.
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>>128148954
By merely announcing that it will finally release it will generate hype, because people will want to see if those 100 million dollars were worth it.
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>>128150839
This. There's plenty of people interested in the game but who had enough sense to not buy jpegs of spaceships from an unfinished game
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>>128151109
I wasn't even talking about those, I was merely talking about journalist and sceptics who are just looking for new material basically.
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>>128151282
Gaming media is shit for exactly this reason

>Get clicks for covering a "New wing commander game!"
>Get clicks for "Its making millions!"
>Get clicks for [concern] x 100
>Get clicks for drama x 100
>Get clicks for "Wow, we knew they could do it!"
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>>128151470
>Get clicks for "Derek Smart was right all along!"
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>>128150702

Low manoeuvrability I can handle.

It's kind of sad how little adjustment the Cutlass needs to look like a menacing, compact bruiser and not a lumpy cargo freighter.

They'd have to restrict the movement of the rear engines, but really that's for the best. They look absolutely retarded and will never respond quick enough to make the Cutlass a threat.

They need to tie these down a bit and just add more thrusters. I have no idea why the Cutlass thruster placement is so sacrosanct when it is clearly a fucking mess.
>>
>>128152417
The nacelle thing they've confirmed they're doing with the rework.
>>
One thing I am fucking desperate for in this game is remote-guided missiles: both SACLOS (guided by a laser from a turret) and MCLOS (remotely flown from a crew station).
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>>128154209
I think beam-riding missiles would be a great way of adding skill based missile gameplay and a reason to actually have an RIO.

But the whole system needs an upgrade to better mechanics. I'm hoping it comes when they update sensors to be properly implemented.
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>>128152417
integrating those damned gimbled side thruster into the front wings somehow, instead on the sides of the hull would also help it's appearance and durability.
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>>128154209
>implying you can hit smaller targets
It would be impossible to hit fighters.

>using it on larger ships
That would be imbalanced. Just sit from far away and shoot missiles against targets that can't dodge. It's basically free kills.
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>>128154510
>Implying you need to physically hit fighters

There are 'strike' type missiles that require direct hits but most are proximity fuses.

>That would be imbalanced
Heaven forbid you actually HIT a constellation!
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>>128154510
also people would bitch about mouse users having yet another advantage
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>>128154778
Not if you make it about larger, sustained movements. Mouse is best for twitch aim. Not something you really need.
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>>128154687
>Heaven forbid you actually HIT a constellation!
But it's suppose to be the Millennium Falcon, Anon.
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>>128154778
If we're talking about an RIO/Crew member guiding it, its kind of irrelevant. If we're not I don't see how it would work flying two things at once.

Not going to use pic related with a joystick.
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>>128154510

>It would be impossible to hit fighters.

With fighters you'd be far better off with the current fire-and-forget missiles of Sizes 2-3. This is more for S5+ missiles/torpedoes, which would be used to murder patrol ships (Constellation, militarised Carrack) or other strategic bombers.

>using it on larger ships would be imbalanced

Not really.

Let's look at the three guidance systems.

Fire-and-forget: pretty much a contest between how expensive your missiles are and whether or not the pilot is paying attention. For larger ships, which don't have the option of instant course adjustment, it's pretty much going to boil down to automatic tracking versus automatic CIWS and flares. Boring.

SACLOS (follow-the-laser) missiles: these would be pretty spammable, but the laser operator AND the pilot would have to co-ordinate to maintain the lock. This means that the attacking ship is forced to stay within a certain range to paint the target: the bigger the target ship, the longer the effective range (inverse square law). This leaves the attacking ship vulnerable, and if it makes any of its own evasive manoeuvres then it's likely that the lock will be lost. If you're attacked by one of these then flares would do nothing, but chaff could be used to block the laser or the sight of the missile.

MCLOS (remote guided) missiles would be the ultimate long-range shoot-and-scoot weapon, perfect for strategic bombers going all Silent Hunter and trying to pick each other off. The downside is that the operator can only guide one at a time, and the accuracy is entirely dependent on their skill. Again, chaff could be used to interfere with the missile.

Whatever happens with missiles they need to be made targetable. This would give all pilots, especially those in ships with turrets, a way to deal with incoming missiles and would offer a natural, skill-based counter to large missiles.
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>>128156982
A laser designator turret, or module that could fit into a gun port so dual turrets could have a gun and a designator would be rad as fuck.

We have an EWAR one.
>>
>>128157426

The Retaliator is perfectly suited for this, and even the Gladiator could be used this way.

Swapping turrets would make your ship a better bomber, but leave it more vulnerable to fighters (and potentially more vulnerable to missiles,, if they are made targetable).
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:^)
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>>128159005
you are late today
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>>128159005
His crusade is a righteous one with no ulterior motives, a pleb would never understand such just motivation.
>>
How does the Gladiator handle? Was thinking of grabbing some CCUs to and from my MIS next time they have a sale.
>>
>>128159974
Like garbage and then if to put salt in the would they've reduced its speed from 190 to 165 m/s.

It's about as slow as a multicrew ship.
Hold off until they finish balancing it.
>>
>>128160312
And the retailator is back down to 130m/s again even though it was already a sitting duck as it was. Seems like they really want all the bombers to be slow as fuck regardless of actual weight/power ratios. At this rate, I'd expect the vanguard torpedo variant to be a good 50m/s slower than its brothers.
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I took at look at the Titan and EWar module of the Avenger.
Are they addons or are they standalone ships? Because I see the modules are cheaper than the normal Avenger.
>>
>>128159005
kek
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>>128161015
Stand alone ships right now. They can't get modules to work yet.
>>
>>128159306
Hi Derek
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>>128161537
But if I buy the Titan module now it wont turn into a useless module on release that requires me to buy the basic avenger to work right?
>>
>>128161635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcGKHC0Rh8
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>>128161784

No, right now the Titan, Warlock and Stalker are all separate ships.
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>>128159005

I'M NOT ANGRY! (Blocked) :3
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>>128157843
I was more talking about a laser designator pod like LITENING that you could attach to a 'gun' type slot, like you can with a tractor beam.

Can have varying sizes with differing strengths.

Could even have ones that just act like a heavy duty sensor in a really narrow cone, if you as a turret operator keep sights on someone, their signature is amplified or something.
>>
>>128114397
>I doubt they'll have enough details for the manufacturers at that point

Yeah I know this is late butfuckit. Go and look at the engineering dispatches for the companies and you will see explanations on the style for all of the manufacturers. If you watch the TNGS eps they bring it them up all the time. Mark Skelton particularly
>>
which ship that is currently in hangar/flyable stage do you guys think is the most overdesigned?
>>
>>128169505
>overdesigned?

meaning
>>
>>128169505
Constellation
Redeemer
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>>128169505
tbqh all the ships are overdesigned
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>>128169505
retalitator is pretty damn over-designed for a ship that size. It feels like it should have been starfarer size or something. Also the Vanguard's interior is just god awful with massive wasted space. They could have easily fit a cargo/utility area in the thing if they wanted, but didn't.
>>
<div class="app" onclick="top.location.href='http://steamcommunity.com/app/432200/workshop/'">
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>>128173338
back to reddit/CIG forums you go
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>>128173338
>making mods exclusive to a single drm platform
>>
>>128173465
>>128173564
might want to check that app id over at http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/
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>>128173338
Just sends me back to the store page, but the front page of the workshop definitely has something interesting.

Of course, thinking that SC wouldn't be coming out for Steam would be a fool's errand.
>>
>>128174579
if you click it it doesnt work either just redirects
what does it mean
>>
im more looking forward to serving on a ship rather than owning one, especially bigger ships like frigates
>>
>>128174781
>what does it mean

It means steam is shit. PCs too.

This general is boring and there isn't even a game. I'm going back to Destiny.
>>
>>128175229
have fun with warfra-Destiny(tm), friend.
>>
>>128175559
I already am with actual friends. Which is more than I can say for this so called game.

Mustard race fails again.
>>
>>128175745
>i have friends
sure you do, shitposter.
>>
is this game worth it or is it going to forever be in a state where release is 20 years away
>>
>>128180245
Both
>>
>>128180245
4 years have gone by and we have 20min worth of gameplay.
what do you think?
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>retalliator
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>>128180826
Still more than ED kek
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>>128175229
>destiny

8/8
>>
>>128180245
This next year will make or break the game.

Right now we have the fundamentals. We've got some ships, some space to fly them in, and a couple things to do. Problem is you can't play more then 5 minutes without crashing.

2.1 is hopefully going to be the first step to it being something you can actually sit down and play for a while.

After that the key is going to be content. We have no idea how close they are to "spend currency to set up your ship - do the thing - receive currency - buy more stuff - repeat" flowchart gameplay, but if that isn't in by the start of Q3 it's going to be very worrisome.
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>kong normies getting triggered by redditor bait

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/311875/pirate-law
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>>128186272
why do the kenglings just accept literally anyone? I see all these tardposts from people I'm pretty sure don't even come here or play MWO for that matter and are strictly RSItists.
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>>128186412

I know right? They even take in gay britbong feminists
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>>128186412
you misspelled veddies, goon.
>>
>>128186412
we don't just accept anyone we have a few small rules
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>>128186785
1. must be furfag
2. must be an autist
3. must be a goon
>>
>>128186856
we make fun of furries and put them in their own class, autism comes with space games, and we and goons don't get along

see mwo for reference
>>
>>128186272
>>128186728
>actually be in Kong
>see all these posts
>have no clue who these autists are

Are we inviting just anyone now? Not that I care because there isn't anything to care about yet
>>
>>128187178
we know all the people that matter are in discord, joining an org in a game where there are no orgs doesn't mean much if you don't know the people
>>
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How do I stop this shit from literally just flying circles around me until I black out? He's not even fighting back, just being impossible to hit.

I shot his fucking wings off how is he so agile
>>
>>128187838
What ship
>>
>>128187838becayse his wings mount his weapons but not his thrusters, so shooting them off reduced his mass, frees up power from his thrusters and concentrates his remaining mass in a much smaller volume, making him more agile.

Git gud and shoot him fgt, Little king is a garbage tier AI that you can usually kill before he even starts maneuvering.
>>
>>128188001
325a

If I slow down I die, if I try to aim while going fast I die
>>
>>128188246
>300 series

RIP

I blame all the early /scg/ fags who claimed the 300 would be great.

FUCK THEM WITH A RUSTY SPORK
>>
>>128188486
Yeah I got a 325a to khartu conversion thing because xenotechnology is the shit but for now it's my only combat ship
>>
>>128188710
REC your way to an Avenger or Gladius or something famillia
>>
Also I forgot to mention but wow the actual arena commander thing is fucking smooth now, it plays really well, game feel and sound is all there.
>>
Is there any ship that can take multiple gimballed GT 220s. I just want to brrttt my way across everything.
>>
>>128189950
Those are size 3 right? Freelancer can put 4 of them on then
>>
>>128188246
I got rid of my 325a awhile ago. The Hornet fly circles around the 300i series and blows their dicks off at the same time.
>>
>>128190464
Why wouldn't you just keep the base Tarantulas? Not brrrrt enough?
>>
>>128196478
He asked for gt 220s, I like the default guns
>>
>>128196478
Some niggas just want to fly through space with a bunch of big ass chain guns bolted their ride.
>>
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>new patch
>gladiator has its speed reduced, retaliator has its speed reduced, M50 has its speed reduced, constellation has its speed reduced.
>fucking super hornet still goes 240 m/s while monoboating tarantulas.
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>>128199317

Its the surprise they were talking about anon

Surprise!
>>
Have they improved the UI since Arena Commander?

Both ship UI and refitting UI were awful.
>>
>>128144630
a homesexual goon with severe autism got banned.
that is his suicide note.
>>
>>128200929
Holo table still terrible, some ships have new UI elements. The Avenger gladius and cutlass all have 2d radars now.
>>
>>128200929
which portion of AC? it's come a hell of a long way since 0.8
>>
>>128203546
Can't remember the version. I remember refitting your ship used a dumb 3d hologram display thing which didn't work well at all.

Ship UI was just really cluttered.
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>128203605
refit ui remains shitty. there's a better one but not implemented. current ship ui, see vid for a couple. they're actually somewhat distinct by ship now.
>>
>>128142567
The correct question would be 'why do role players exist '
>>
>>128206290
because d20 is good fun. you just dont have friends for it.
>>
>>128199317
>fucking super hornet still goes 240 m/s while monoboating tarantulas.
Did anyone ever try what happens when you start a thread about all hornets, all day, every day on teh RSI forums?

Or do those threads simply get trolled by the hornetfags and moderated into oblivion by their overlord Ben?
>>
>>128206536
>Did anyone ever try what happens when you start a thread about all hornets, all day, every day on teh RSI forums?
thats not all of them?
>>
>>128206443
>d20 is good fun
check out this newfag
>>
>>128206536
They've been pretty diligent about moving ship threads to their respective containment boards. So the posts would just get moved to the hornet board and get buried quickly.
>>
>>128206640
?
>>
So what do you guys reckon when the next bigger update will hit? Also Reliant SEN sale when? I missed the last opportunity.
>>
>>128208741
what is the next big update going to bring anyway?
>>
>>128209287
More money for CIG when they start selling virtual clothes
>>
>>128209287
2.1 has 3 more ships.
so nothing.
>>
>>128190464
>>128196478
>>128197654
fuck goddamnit but can't use freelancer in AC.
The dream of multiple gimballed GT 220s and missiles make me wet
>>
>>128209345
Which ships then?
>>
Anyone else have an issue where the little 3D models for ships that shows damage on your UI doesn't show up?
>>
>>128209469
Yes, I've seen it a lot.
>>
>>128209287
Well hopefully they'll bring in custom loadouts for ships in the mini-pu which CR said in 10 for the Chinamen. Maybe some UI reworks. Hopefully making the Sabre flyable. Also, hopefully we'll see planetside soon as they're further in there than I would've expected. Last but not least, StarMarine. Shits gotta come out at some point. Though it kinda feels like that went out the window with the mini-pu coming out. Rarely hear anything from it anymore.
>>
>>128209496
No solutions or anything? It's already hard to tell if you're doing damage to something or not.
>>
>>128209520
Hopefully they'll fix the holotable as well, that shit is just the worst.
>>
>>128206640
>making special mention in your mayday that your turret isn't responding
>>
>>128209714
It'd be so much easier to just do shit with tabs instead of that weird click and drag shit. Hell just copy Freelancer.
>>
>>128209942
I wish I was around for veelancer
>>
New Bread:
>>128210123
>>128210123
>>128210123
>>128210123
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>>128199406
how the hell does that thing come to a stop without tipping over
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Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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